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TrueNheroxubuntu on pandora, it is posible?00:17
owen1if i want the most efficient ubuntu, should i get the server version and add xorg?00:40
_Techie_no00:54
_Techie_install using the alternative cd00:54
_Techie_and install the minimal system00:54
_Techie_then add what you want from there00:54
TrueNherocan i have xubuntu with xvesa?00:56
_Techie_yes00:56
_Techie_!vesa00:56
ubottuvesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x00:56
_Techie_!xvesa00:56
_Techie_!x00:56
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution00:56
_Techie_hopefully one of thos efactiods will help you out a bit00:57
_Techie_TrueNhero,  if you have an xorg.conf you could just change the driver line00:58
Aquina'lo00:58
_Techie_hello Aquina00:58
AquinaHas someone ever executed "sudo find / -xdev -type f -nogroup -print"?00:58
Aquinahello _Techie_00:58
_Techie_Aquina, no, what should it do?00:58
AquinaIt for e.g. returned "/var/lib/doc-base/documents/gimp-help-de" which group is 999.00:59
AquinaI have NO such group. :-/00:59
AquinaIt listed about 15 files... I'm gonna check the groups.00:59
_Techie_anyway, im gonna drop down a few runlevels and install a driver01:00
AquinaYes, they all belogn to group 999.01:00
AquinaI had to execute "sudo apt-get install --reinstall aspell-de-alt aspell-de gimp-help-de" which changed the group back to root.01:05
Aquina*strange*!01:05
ubuntuOkay so I downloaded Xubuntu latest, burnt it to a cd, booted and... it looks exactly the same.  Same background, same theme and when I opened Firefox the welcome page said "Welcome to Ubuntu 9.10."01:14
ubuntuWhat gives?01:14
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_Techie_did you download the correct version01:14
wolfwalker_primeDid someone forget to change the Firefox autostart?01:14
wolfwalker_primeNo, when I hover the mouse over the Install button on the desktop it says "Install Xubuntu 10.0401:14
wolfwalker_prime"01:14
wolfwalker_primeBut the Firefox default page said "Welcome to Xubuntu 9.10."01:15
wolfwalker_primeWhere do you check versions from within Xubuntu?01:16
wolfwalker_primeRight.  Anyone else awake here?01:20
schlaftierwolfwalker_prime: lsb_release -r01:22
schlaftieror "lsb_release -a" if you want more output01:22
wolfwalker_primeubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lsb_release -r01:23
wolfwalker_primeRelease:10.0401:23
wolfwalker_primeHmph.01:23
wolfwalker_primeJust nobody changed the background or updated the Firefox start page.  Fair enough.01:23
wolfwalker_primeThanks schlaftier01:23
schlaftiermy Firefox default page doesn't mention any version number01:24
wolfwalker_primeWell the second time I opened it, it went to the standard Google page.01:24
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wolfwalker_primeBut fire up the live cd and check.  First time you open Firefox it says welcome to Xubuntu 9.10.01:25
schlaftieryes, Google here01:25
schlaftieroh, not now :)01:25
nbndshello everyone!02:21
_Techie_i need to initialise the preamp on my soundcard, driver module snd-ca0106.   does anybody know how to do this?02:52
isaac_Okay what gives with this?  I selected a lot of packages in Synaptic, selected File > Generate package download script.  It popped up a 30k file on the desktop.03:48
isaac_I tried everything I can to run it.  It won't download anything.03:48
isaac_Can someone rtfm me to a how-to?  Or is it still downloading and just won't dump it all in the file until it's done?03:48
AquinaWhat is " Generate package download script", isaac_?03:51
owen1cclausen: someone on #xubuntu told me the leanest way to install ubuntu is using the alternate CD and not the server.03:52
isaac_In theory it is supposed to be a way to, instead of installing a program in Synaptic, save it to install later, on another computer that is offline.03:52
isaac_Oh well, I gotta go to bed anyway.03:54
bazhang!clone03:56
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate03:56
Prajwalanyone can tell me when is 10.04.1 is scheduled to release?05:04
bazhangnot known05:06
_Techie_when its ready05:06
Prajwali will wait for that  release05:07
Prajwalit will overcome all the bugs05:07
_Techie_ive found lucid to be good for me so far, the only bugs ive come across are to do with my audio card and video card, and are not caused by ubuntu05:08
hearforthepunsmy RAM usage at an idle desktop went from ~370MB in 9.10 to ~500MB after an upgrade to 10.04,  is this normal?05:12
Prajwaloh such a hype05:12
_Techie_did you upgrade or re install?05:12
hearforthepuns"after an upgrade to 10.04" ... upgraded through the Update Manager.  i usually do a clean install but i figured i'd give the upgrade a shot this time :)05:13
_Techie_run the computer janitor thingy05:13
_Techie_that may help with system performance05:14
hearforthepunsk..  system performance sucks now since I only have 512MB RAM! :(05:14
_Techie_im on the other end of the scale, i have 2gig RAM and abut 8 gig swap05:15
_Techie_sorry05:15
_Techie_4.9gig swap05:15
hearforthepunswhere would i find this computer janitor? it doesn't seem to be in my menus05:16
_Techie_uummm, i think it exists in xubuntu, truth be told, im running ubuntu05:17
hearforthepunsdon't think it does exist05:17
_Techie_try running the command computer-janitor-gtk05:17
hearforthepunsinstalling...05:18
hearforthepunshrmm, that just says it wants to remove a bunch of packages that i'm still using05:22
hearforthepunsnone of which is taking up my ram right now05:22
_Techie_ odd05:23
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crowwhere are bootchart located? i did clean install and just apt-get install bootchart..07:43
crowfound it lol, /var/log/bootchart/07:45
dorianxliiCan anyone tell me where 10.04 stores the GTK themes now?  I can't find it.08:20
dorianxliiAnyone?  Anyone at all?08:29
BesogonI haven't installed 10.4 yet08:30
dorianxliiIt's a nice version, but they've moved things around.08:31
Besogonmay be. but if it's done, I'll have to compile octave again...08:33
dorianxliiI literally only installed it a few hours ago.  So, it looks the same, but everything is in different places.  I'm still getting my bearings.08:35
BesogonHas the included alacarte in xfce version of 10.04?08:36
BesogonHas they included alacarte in xfce version of 10.04?08:36
dorianxliiI'll look...08:36
dorianxliiNo, but it's available through the repositories.08:37
Besogonalacarte is little program but extrimly essential. try if it's works. They had intended to make it work half a year ago...08:39
Besogonoh my bab english....08:40
Besogonbad08:40
Besogon))))08:40
dorianxliiI understand you, don't worry.08:40
dorianxlii...Wait... What does this alacarte do?08:40
Besogonalacarte lets  you edit main menu08:41
dorianxliiAh.  Yeah, I'll be installing that.  The menu hasn't worked quite the way I want it for a few versions now.08:41
dorianxliiIt has a lot of requirements, mostly of Gnome.  For Xubuntu, that's a tall order.08:42
dorianxliiAh, I can see why Xubuntu is hesitant to install alacarte now...08:45
dorianxliiNo.  It does not work right.08:47
_Techie_im gonna boot into windows now, see ya all soon08:48
Besogonalacarte was written with python. It should work anyway. One serious problem with it is that alacarte is working with some specific files (application.menu) yet this file in Xfce is named in other name08:48
Besogonmay be it would be enaugh to make links from xfce-menu to gnome-menu files. just linls. I didn't try it actually. but you can if you is interested08:50
dorianxliiNah.  Tell you the truth I figured out what I needed to and I'm off now.  The themes are now kept in /usr/share/themes and you need to be root to install new ones.08:51
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handjobAnother day another suprise. I upgraded yesterday. I almost fixed the sound issue, however, taday I am unable to use normal ressolution and only lower is available.10:35
handjobI am using nvidia.10:36
handjobAny suggestions?10:36
BesogonDid you reinatll nvidia driver?10:36
Besogonreinstall10:36
BesogonYou should do it any time when change a kernel.10:37
Sysinouveau is working fine with me10:37
psycho_oreosthough I'm sure generally ubuntu handles it via dkms10:38
handjobThx for information. I totaly forgot about that. Reinstalling now. Thx again.10:39
Sysiit should work automatically if driver is installed with ubuntu's tool10:41
Sysi(as it should be done)10:41
handjobWell it does, however, what else can i do?10:43
handjobDo i need to reinstall all the listed packages? http://pastebin.com/LY7qP86910:44
Besogonhandjob, I don't determind but you said you had nvidia-173-modaliases, nvidia-185-modaliases, nvidia-96-modaliases. And at the same time you use nvidia-173 driver. May be deleting all of it and install properly driver from driver installer will help10:55
handjobBesogon, Mostly strange, I haven't noticed. Only time when i was installing drivers was in the begining. Maybe i should do so. Thx.10:58
crowwhat does this mean: [ 72.630041] Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -409012042 ns) <- found in dmesg11:02
psycho_oreoscrow, nothing serious to worry about11:36
Prajwali just tried xubuntu 10.04 and its not starting11:40
Prajwali get the boot menu and then i get throwed to a blank screen11:40
Prajwali use xubuntu 9.10 and i have no problem with it11:41
Prajwali use it on virtual box11:42
Prajwal_Techie_, can you help me out?11:44
_Techie_wow, dont i just have the perfect name11:44
_Techie_umm, no at this time i unfortanately cannot help you out11:45
Prajwal^_^11:45
crowpsycho_oreos i just cheked this: cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/available_clocksource and output is only: acpi_pm <- so i should chnage that tsc to acpi_pm right? just where11:45
Prajwalahh ok11:45
_Techie_while i have seen this problem a few times with a few different users, i still dont know of the exact cause or a fix11:45
Prajwaloh im not the only one facing this issue11:46
_Techie_no11:46
Prajwalfor me i have a 4gb ram i guess live cd should work good enough11:46
psycho_oreoscrow, I wouldn't go changing that file11:46
_Techie_are you using the 64bit version?11:47
Prajwal32bit11:47
_Techie_hrmm11:47
_Techie_i know this is stupid because 32bit code can run on a 64bit core, but have you tried the 64bit liveCD?11:48
Prajwalno11:48
_Techie_or11:48
_Techie_you could try lower your RAM to under 3 gigs11:48
Prajwaleh??11:48
_Techie_its a stab in the dark, but it may be a problem with adressing memory11:49
Prajwali tried even that on virtual box11:49
Sysii think ram *can't* be an issue11:49
Prajwalsetting a 700mb ram11:49
crowpsycho_oreos i didnt changed that file, i just use it to get output, i should put: clocksource=acpi_pm to kernel boot, but not shure where.. /etc/default/grub seems now correct place11:49
_Techie_okay, then im at a blank again11:49
Prajwallooks like i have to wait for 10.04.1 :P11:49
Prajwalwhat i always do11:49
SysiPrajwal: so are you trying it on virtualbox?11:50
Prajwalyes11:50
Prajwaleven live cd isnt working11:50
_Techie_Sysi, although RAM shouldnt be a problem, 32bit can only adress abotu 3gig of RAM so there is a possibility that a bug could surface11:50
Sysiyou could try live cd directly11:50
Sysivirtual machines are alvays.. special11:51
PrajwalSysi, even that doesnt work11:51
_Techie_hrmm11:51
psycho_oreosits most likely acpi issue11:51
Prajwalwow wait a min after 20mins my virtual box flashes something11:51
_Techie_what about the alternate CD?11:51
Prajwal9.10 works fine11:51
_Techie_ooh Prajwal whats it doing?11:51
_Techie_whats it flashing at ya?11:52
Prajwali got the screen11:53
Prajwalbut its idle ...stuck up11:53
_Techie_hrmm11:53
_Techie_my suggestion is just to loave it loading11:53
_Techie_maybe it will start working... who knows11:53
Prajwalya what i usually do11:54
Prajwalbtw Im from #matriux11:55
Prajwalnow everything is fast and flawless ...it will make a great system if that start up thingy is fixed12:13
_Techie_Prajwal, glad it worked for you in the end12:14
Prajwalya it did :)12:15
Prajwallooks like grub needs few changes12:15
Prajwali will remove that usplash12:16
_Techie_!grub212:16
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub212:16
Sysistill problems seeing removable drives in lucid12:40
Sysii heard that reboot/relogin could help but i just mounted by hand12:40
_Techie_Sysi, if you want it done right, you gotta do it yourself12:41
Prajwal_Techie_, same issue after installation too :(12:42
k456Hi14:17
maitrebnHi !14:32
maitrebnI'm passing from ubuntu to xubuntu and I'm wondering where is the "system menu" ? I would to change application when amovible media are inserted ...14:33
hatake_kakashilook for Applications14:35
maitrebnhatake_kakashi, i found Applications ...14:36
Presario2500hello14:46
Presario2500how can I see what my computer's specs (processor/ram/hd) in Xubuntu?14:46
Presario2500oh I got it, lshw14:50
Presario2500if I am running Xubuntu 9.10 on 2.3Ghz, will Xubuntu 10.4 run slower?  not sure if I should upgrade or not14:51
TomJhow can I clear out my xubuntu session settings so they're back to defaults - using the command line ?15:18
TomJ(version 9.10)15:18
kutaghOkay. Having issues with trying to install Xubuntu 10.04 on my laptop. Inserted the DVD (burned ISO to DVD) and restarted laptop. It then goes on to the language selection menu and the options menu, where I can first pick the language and then choose "Try out Xubuntu without installing", "Install Xubuntu", "Check the disc for errors" and such.15:25
kutaghAt that point, the first two (Try out Xubuntu/Install Xubuntu) just.. hang15:26
kutaghI gave it several minutes without any visible progress.15:26
* kutagh tries to get some attention15:27
kutaghanyone??15:27
TomJwhat application gives the background / dekstop icons in xfce?15:48
TomJah, xfdesktop15:49
bitModuloushello15:57
TomJlol, if you click "Save Session" in xfce settings manager, then it saves the fact that the session manger is open..15:57
bitModulousdoes anyone know how to change your keyboard shortcuts on the new 10.0415:58
bitModulous?16:03
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bitModI guess that no one has played w/ the 10.04 settings editor ? I want to create a shortcut for my terminal. It should be trivial, but I can't find the add new shortcut button16:14
bitModkeyboard shortcut16:14
bitModthats is16:14
LinuxGuy2009Is Xubuntu 10.04 an LTS like ubuntu and kubuntu are?16:55
xGrindthunar is bugged17:10
bcgrownWhere do I add a custom X session to the login menu?17:14
crowwhats needed to install sun java ? i am trying sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts <-- but no packages is found..18:01
Prajwalcrow i guess you have to try gettinh it from sun website18:02
Peacimowenwell that didn't work so well... Just upgraded. and now I'm stuck at low resolution with no colour.. just B&W18:05
PrajwalPeacimowen, graphic card?18:05
Peacimowennvidia18:06
cr0w_Peacimowen hmm why it isnt anymore in repo.. weird18:07
PeacimowenGeForce 720018:07
Prajwal!panel18:18
ubottuDid you panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/18:18
Peacimowen>.>18:30
KutaghPeople active here?19:35
Sysi!ask19:35
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:35
KutaghJeezus... For some reason Xubuntu doesn't want to boot... First the normal install CD for Xubuntu doesn't want to install, I installed it with the Alternate CD, now rebooted.... And it got stuck after the logo...... Using the old Ubuntu disc I got, it actually booted into the Live CD environment (which the Xubuntu 10.04 one couldn't ....)19:36
Kutaghwant me to be more detailed?19:37
talemanrunning xubuntu 10.04 and the panels disappeared19:44
talemananyone?19:45
KutaghJeezus... For some reason Xubuntu doesn't want to boot... First the normal install CD for Xubuntu doesn't want to install, I installed it with the Alternate CD, now rebooted.... And it got stuck after the logo...... Using the old Ubuntu disc I got, it actually booted into the Live CD environment (which the Xubuntu 10.04 one couldn't ....)19:46
talemanI tried xfce-panels and i got a floating point exception19:52
talemandoes anyone know how to get the panels back  in xubuntu?19:56
Sysi!panels19:56
ubottuDid your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/19:56
Sysididn't work?19:56
talemani get a floating point exception19:56
talemanyea the panels flicker then disappear, if i run the command in a terminal then i get a floating point exception message19:59
Kutagh>Jeezus... For some reason Xubuntu doesn't want to boot... First the normal install CD for Xubuntu doesn't want to install, I installed it with the Alternate CD, now rebooted.... And it got stuck after the logo...... Using the old Ubuntu disc I got, it actually booted into the Live CD environment (which the Xubuntu 10.04 one couldn't ....)20:00
talemanany idea what might be causing the floating point exception?20:05
ryan_languagelabhey all... I upgraded to 10.4 and was messing around with the window manager themes. I selected one of them (can't remember which) and I was immediatley logged out of my Xfce session and now cannot log back in20:29
ryan_languagelabit seems like X is failing with that window manager theme but i've checked the X.org logs and can't see anything obvious... where should I start looking?20:29
ryan_languagelabalso....where does Xubuntu store the window manager theme settings... I will gladly change it back to "Albatross"20:30
ryan_languagelabHello?20:37
ryan_languagelabhello?20:46
Sysiseems that we have bug in some theme21:04
Sysii was in sauna, i would have known that :/21:04
abhifxhi there. my plymouth doesnt work with the error could not connect to plymouth. can anyone help?21:46
_Techie_Sysi, know anything about recompiling kernel modules23:19
chookieok..23:43
chookieim trying to install xubuntu 9.10 PPC on a ps3.....23:44
chookieit hangs at "deregistering" usb.....why?23:44
_Techie_chookie, i have knowledge of PPC based systems, but not PS3's23:48
dankussdamn23:51
dankussits the same as a PPC, but somereason it hangs at "deregistering"23:51

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