[00:17] <TrueNhero> xubuntu on pandora, it is posible?
[00:40] <owen1> if i want the most efficient ubuntu, should i get the server version and add xorg?
[00:54] <_Techie_> no
[00:54] <_Techie_> install using the alternative cd
[00:54] <_Techie_> and install the minimal system
[00:54] <_Techie_> then add what you want from there
[00:56] <TrueNhero> can i have xubuntu with xvesa?
[00:56] <_Techie_> yes
[00:56] <_Techie_> !vesa
[00:56] <_Techie_> !xvesa
[00:56] <_Techie_> !x
[00:57] <_Techie_> hopefully one of thos efactiods will help you out a bit
[00:58] <_Techie_> TrueNhero,  if you have an xorg.conf you could just change the driver line
[00:58] <Aquina> 'lo
[00:58] <_Techie_> hello Aquina
[00:58] <Aquina> Has someone ever executed "sudo find / -xdev -type f -nogroup -print"?
[00:58] <Aquina> hello _Techie_
[00:58] <_Techie_> Aquina, no, what should it do?
[00:59] <Aquina> It for e.g. returned "/var/lib/doc-base/documents/gimp-help-de" which group is 999.
[00:59] <Aquina> I have NO such group. :-/
[00:59] <Aquina> It listed about 15 files... I'm gonna check the groups.
[01:00] <_Techie_> anyway, im gonna drop down a few runlevels and install a driver
[01:00] <Aquina> Yes, they all belogn to group 999.
[01:05] <Aquina> I had to execute "sudo apt-get install --reinstall aspell-de-alt aspell-de gimp-help-de" which changed the group back to root.
[01:05] <Aquina> *strange*!
[01:14] <ubuntu> Okay so I downloaded Xubuntu latest, burnt it to a cd, booted and... it looks exactly the same.  Same background, same theme and when I opened Firefox the welcome page said "Welcome to Ubuntu 9.10."
[01:14] <ubuntu> What gives?
[01:14] <_Techie_> did you download the correct version
[01:14] <wolfwalker_prime> Did someone forget to change the Firefox autostart?
[01:14] <wolfwalker_prime> No, when I hover the mouse over the Install button on the desktop it says "Install Xubuntu 10.04
[01:14] <wolfwalker_prime> "
[01:15] <wolfwalker_prime> But the Firefox default page said "Welcome to Xubuntu 9.10."
[01:16] <wolfwalker_prime> Where do you check versions from within Xubuntu?
[01:20] <wolfwalker_prime> Right.  Anyone else awake here?
[01:22] <schlaftier> wolfwalker_prime: lsb_release -r
[01:22] <schlaftier> or "lsb_release -a" if you want more output
[01:23] <wolfwalker_prime> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lsb_release -r
[01:23] <wolfwalker_prime> Release:	10.04
[01:23] <wolfwalker_prime> Hmph.
[01:23] <wolfwalker_prime> Just nobody changed the background or updated the Firefox start page.  Fair enough.
[01:23] <wolfwalker_prime> Thanks schlaftier
[01:24] <schlaftier> my Firefox default page doesn't mention any version number
[01:24] <wolfwalker_prime> Well the second time I opened it, it went to the standard Google page.
[01:25] <wolfwalker_prime> But fire up the live cd and check.  First time you open Firefox it says welcome to Xubuntu 9.10.
[01:25] <schlaftier> yes, Google here
[01:25] <schlaftier> oh, not now :)
[02:21] <nbnds> hello everyone!
[02:52] <_Techie_> i need to initialise the preamp on my soundcard, driver module snd-ca0106.   does anybody know how to do this?
[03:48] <isaac_> Okay what gives with this?  I selected a lot of packages in Synaptic, selected File > Generate package download script.  It popped up a 30k file on the desktop.
[03:48] <isaac_> I tried everything I can to run it.  It won't download anything.
[03:48] <isaac_> Can someone rtfm me to a how-to?  Or is it still downloading and just won't dump it all in the file until it's done?
[03:51] <Aquina> What is " Generate package download script", isaac_?
[03:52] <owen1> cclausen: someone on #xubuntu told me the leanest way to install ubuntu is using the alternate CD and not the server.
[03:52] <isaac_> In theory it is supposed to be a way to, instead of installing a program in Synaptic, save it to install later, on another computer that is offline.
[03:54] <isaac_> Oh well, I gotta go to bed anyway.
[03:56] <bazhang> !clone
[05:04] <Prajwal> anyone can tell me when is 10.04.1 is scheduled to release?
[05:06] <bazhang> not known
[05:06] <_Techie_> when its ready
[05:07] <Prajwal> i will wait for that  release
[05:07] <Prajwal> it will overcome all the bugs
[05:08] <_Techie_> ive found lucid to be good for me so far, the only bugs ive come across are to do with my audio card and video card, and are not caused by ubuntu
[05:12] <hearforthepuns> my RAM usage at an idle desktop went from ~370MB in 9.10 to ~500MB after an upgrade to 10.04,  is this normal?
[05:12] <Prajwal> oh such a hype
[05:12] <_Techie_> did you upgrade or re install?
[05:13] <hearforthepuns> "after an upgrade to 10.04" ... upgraded through the Update Manager.  i usually do a clean install but i figured i'd give the upgrade a shot this time :)
[05:13] <_Techie_> run the computer janitor thingy
[05:14] <_Techie_> that may help with system performance
[05:14] <hearforthepuns> k..  system performance sucks now since I only have 512MB RAM! :(
[05:15] <_Techie_> im on the other end of the scale, i have 2gig RAM and abut 8 gig swap
[05:15] <_Techie_> sorry
[05:15] <_Techie_> 4.9gig swap
[05:16] <hearforthepuns> where would i find this computer janitor? it doesn't seem to be in my menus
[05:17] <_Techie_> uummm, i think it exists in xubuntu, truth be told, im running ubuntu
[05:17] <hearforthepuns> don't think it does exist
[05:17] <_Techie_> try running the command computer-janitor-gtk
[05:18] <hearforthepuns> installing...
[05:22] <hearforthepuns> hrmm, that just says it wants to remove a bunch of packages that i'm still using
[05:22] <hearforthepuns> none of which is taking up my ram right now
[05:23] <_Techie_>  odd
[07:43] <crow> where are bootchart located? i did clean install and just apt-get install bootchart..
[07:45] <crow> found it lol, /var/log/bootchart/
[08:20] <dorianxlii> Can anyone tell me where 10.04 stores the GTK themes now?  I can't find it.
[08:29] <dorianxlii> Anyone?  Anyone at all?
[08:30] <Besogon> I haven't installed 10.4 yet
[08:31] <dorianxlii> It's a nice version, but they've moved things around.
[08:33] <Besogon> may be. but if it's done, I'll have to compile octave again...
[08:35] <dorianxlii> I literally only installed it a few hours ago.  So, it looks the same, but everything is in different places.  I'm still getting my bearings.
[08:36] <Besogon> Has the included alacarte in xfce version of 10.04?
[08:36] <Besogon> Has they included alacarte in xfce version of 10.04?
[08:36] <dorianxlii> I'll look...
[08:37] <dorianxlii> No, but it's available through the repositories.
[08:39] <Besogon> alacarte is little program but extrimly essential. try if it's works. They had intended to make it work half a year ago...
[08:40] <Besogon> oh my bab english....
[08:40] <Besogon> bad
[08:40] <Besogon> ))))
[08:40] <dorianxlii> I understand you, don't worry.
[08:40] <dorianxlii> ...Wait... What does this alacarte do?
[08:41] <Besogon> alacarte lets  you edit main menu
[08:41] <dorianxlii> Ah.  Yeah, I'll be installing that.  The menu hasn't worked quite the way I want it for a few versions now.
[08:42] <dorianxlii> It has a lot of requirements, mostly of Gnome.  For Xubuntu, that's a tall order.
[08:45] <dorianxlii> Ah, I can see why Xubuntu is hesitant to install alacarte now...
[08:47] <dorianxlii> No.  It does not work right.
[08:48] <_Techie_> im gonna boot into windows now, see ya all soon
[08:48] <Besogon> alacarte was written with python. It should work anyway. One serious problem with it is that alacarte is working with some specific files (application.menu) yet this file in Xfce is named in other name
[08:50] <Besogon> may be it would be enaugh to make links from xfce-menu to gnome-menu files. just linls. I didn't try it actually. but you can if you is interested
[08:51] <dorianxlii> Nah.  Tell you the truth I figured out what I needed to and I'm off now.  The themes are now kept in /usr/share/themes and you need to be root to install new ones.
[10:35] <handjob> Another day another suprise. I upgraded yesterday. I almost fixed the sound issue, however, taday I am unable to use normal ressolution and only lower is available.
[10:36] <handjob> I am using nvidia.
[10:36] <handjob> Any suggestions?
[10:36] <Besogon> Did you reinatll nvidia driver?
[10:36] <Besogon> reinstall
[10:37] <Besogon> You should do it any time when change a kernel.
[10:37] <Sysi> nouveau is working fine with me
[10:38] <psycho_oreos> though I'm sure generally ubuntu handles it via dkms
[10:39] <handjob> Thx for information. I totaly forgot about that. Reinstalling now. Thx again.
[10:41] <Sysi> it should work automatically if driver is installed with ubuntu's tool
[10:41] <Sysi> (as it should be done)
[10:43] <handjob> Well it does, however, what else can i do?
[10:44] <handjob> Do i need to reinstall all the listed packages? http://pastebin.com/LY7qP869
[10:55] <Besogon> handjob, I don't determind but you said you had nvidia-173-modaliases, nvidia-185-modaliases, nvidia-96-modaliases. And at the same time you use nvidia-173 driver. May be deleting all of it and install properly driver from driver installer will help
[10:58] <handjob> Besogon, Mostly strange, I haven't noticed. Only time when i was installing drivers was in the begining. Maybe i should do so. Thx.
[11:02] <crow> what does this mean: [ 72.630041] Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -409012042 ns) <- found in dmesg
[11:36] <psycho_oreos> crow, nothing serious to worry about
[11:40] <Prajwal> i just tried xubuntu 10.04 and its not starting
[11:40] <Prajwal> i get the boot menu and then i get throwed to a blank screen
[11:41] <Prajwal> i use xubuntu 9.10 and i have no problem with it
[11:42] <Prajwal> i use it on virtual box
[11:44] <Prajwal> _Techie_, can you help me out?
[11:44] <_Techie_> wow, dont i just have the perfect name
[11:45] <_Techie_> umm, no at this time i unfortanately cannot help you out
[11:45] <Prajwal> ^_^
[11:45] <crow> psycho_oreos i just cheked this: cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/available_clocksource and output is only: acpi_pm <- so i should chnage that tsc to acpi_pm right? just where
[11:45] <Prajwal> ahh ok
[11:45] <_Techie_> while i have seen this problem a few times with a few different users, i still dont know of the exact cause or a fix
[11:46] <Prajwal> oh im not the only one facing this issue
[11:46] <_Techie_> no
[11:46] <Prajwal> for me i have a 4gb ram i guess live cd should work good enough
[11:46] <psycho_oreos> crow, I wouldn't go changing that file
[11:47] <_Techie_> are you using the 64bit version?
[11:47] <Prajwal> 32bit
[11:47] <_Techie_> hrmm
[11:48] <_Techie_> i know this is stupid because 32bit code can run on a 64bit core, but have you tried the 64bit liveCD?
[11:48] <Prajwal> no
[11:48] <_Techie_> or
[11:48] <_Techie_> you could try lower your RAM to under 3 gigs
[11:48] <Prajwal> eh??
[11:49] <_Techie_> its a stab in the dark, but it may be a problem with adressing memory
[11:49] <Prajwal> i tried even that on virtual box
[11:49] <Sysi> i think ram *can't* be an issue
[11:49] <Prajwal> setting a 700mb ram
[11:49] <crow> psycho_oreos i didnt changed that file, i just use it to get output, i should put: clocksource=acpi_pm to kernel boot, but not shure where.. /etc/default/grub seems now correct place
[11:49] <_Techie_> okay, then im at a blank again
[11:49] <Prajwal> looks like i have to wait for 10.04.1 :P
[11:49] <Prajwal> what i always do
[11:50] <Sysi> Prajwal: so are you trying it on virtualbox?
[11:50] <Prajwal> yes
[11:50] <Prajwal> even live cd isnt working
[11:50] <_Techie_> Sysi, although RAM shouldnt be a problem, 32bit can only adress abotu 3gig of RAM so there is a possibility that a bug could surface
[11:50] <Sysi> you could try live cd directly
[11:51] <Sysi> virtual machines are alvays.. special
[11:51] <Prajwal> Sysi, even that doesnt work
[11:51] <_Techie_> hrmm
[11:51] <psycho_oreos> its most likely acpi issue
[11:51] <Prajwal> wow wait a min after 20mins my virtual box flashes something
[11:51] <_Techie_> what about the alternate CD?
[11:51] <Prajwal> 9.10 works fine
[11:51] <_Techie_> ooh Prajwal whats it doing?
[11:52] <_Techie_> whats it flashing at ya?
[11:53] <Prajwal> i got the screen
[11:53] <Prajwal> but its idle ...stuck up
[11:53] <_Techie_> hrmm
[11:53] <_Techie_> my suggestion is just to loave it loading
[11:53] <_Techie_> maybe it will start working... who knows
[11:54] <Prajwal> ya what i usually do
[11:55] <Prajwal> btw Im from #matriux
[12:13] <Prajwal> now everything is fast and flawless ...it will make a great system if that start up thingy is fixed
[12:14] <_Techie_> Prajwal, glad it worked for you in the end
[12:15] <Prajwal> ya it did :)
[12:15] <Prajwal> looks like grub needs few changes
[12:16] <Prajwal> i will remove that usplash
[12:16] <_Techie_> !grub2
[12:40] <Sysi> still problems seeing removable drives in lucid
[12:40] <Sysi> i heard that reboot/relogin could help but i just mounted by hand
[12:41] <_Techie_> Sysi, if you want it done right, you gotta do it yourself
[12:42] <Prajwal> _Techie_, same issue after installation too :(
[14:17] <k456> Hi
[14:32] <maitrebn> Hi !
[14:33] <maitrebn> I'm passing from ubuntu to xubuntu and I'm wondering where is the "system menu" ? I would to change application when amovible media are inserted ...
[14:35] <hatake_kakashi> look for Applications
[14:36] <maitrebn> hatake_kakashi, i found Applications ...
[14:46] <Presario2500> hello
[14:46] <Presario2500> how can I see what my computer's specs (processor/ram/hd) in Xubuntu?
[14:50] <Presario2500> oh I got it, lshw
[14:51] <Presario2500> if I am running Xubuntu 9.10 on 2.3Ghz, will Xubuntu 10.4 run slower?  not sure if I should upgrade or not
[15:18] <TomJ> how can I clear out my xubuntu session settings so they're back to defaults - using the command line ?
[15:18] <TomJ> (version 9.10)
[15:25] <kutagh> Okay. Having issues with trying to install Xubuntu 10.04 on my laptop. Inserted the DVD (burned ISO to DVD) and restarted laptop. It then goes on to the language selection menu and the options menu, where I can first pick the language and then choose "Try out Xubuntu without installing", "Install Xubuntu", "Check the disc for errors" and such.
[15:26] <kutagh> At that point, the first two (Try out Xubuntu/Install Xubuntu) just.. hang
[15:26] <kutagh> I gave it several minutes without any visible progress.
[15:27]  * kutagh tries to get some attention
[15:27] <kutagh> anyone??
[15:48] <TomJ> what application gives the background / dekstop icons in xfce?
[15:49] <TomJ> ah, xfdesktop
[15:57] <bitModulous> hello
[15:57] <TomJ> lol, if you click "Save Session" in xfce settings manager, then it saves the fact that the session manger is open..
[15:58] <bitModulous> does anyone know how to change your keyboard shortcuts on the new 10.04
[16:03] <bitModulous> ?
[16:14] <bitMod> I guess that no one has played w/ the 10.04 settings editor ? I want to create a shortcut for my terminal. It should be trivial, but I can't find the add new shortcut button
[16:14] <bitMod> keyboard shortcut
[16:14] <bitMod> thats is
[16:55] <LinuxGuy2009> Is Xubuntu 10.04 an LTS like ubuntu and kubuntu are?
[17:10] <xGrind> thunar is bugged
[17:14] <bcgrown> Where do I add a custom X session to the login menu?
[18:01] <crow> whats needed to install sun java ? i am trying sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts <-- but no packages is found..
[18:02] <Prajwal> crow i guess you have to try gettinh it from sun website
[18:05] <Peacimowen> well that didn't work so well... Just upgraded. and now I'm stuck at low resolution with no colour.. just B&W
[18:05] <Prajwal> Peacimowen, graphic card?
[18:06] <Peacimowen> nvidia
[18:07] <cr0w_> Peacimowen hmm why it isnt anymore in repo.. weird
[18:07] <Peacimowen> GeForce 7200
[18:18] <Prajwal> !panel
[18:30] <Peacimowen> >.>
[19:35] <Kutagh> People active here?
[19:35] <Sysi> !ask
[19:36] <Kutagh> Jeezus... For some reason Xubuntu doesn't want to boot... First the normal install CD for Xubuntu doesn't want to install, I installed it with the Alternate CD, now rebooted.... And it got stuck after the logo...... Using the old Ubuntu disc I got, it actually booted into the Live CD environment (which the Xubuntu 10.04 one couldn't ....)
[19:37] <Kutagh> want me to be more detailed?
[19:44] <taleman> running xubuntu 10.04 and the panels disappeared
[19:45] <taleman> anyone?
[19:46] <Kutagh> Jeezus... For some reason Xubuntu doesn't want to boot... First the normal install CD for Xubuntu doesn't want to install, I installed it with the Alternate CD, now rebooted.... And it got stuck after the logo...... Using the old Ubuntu disc I got, it actually booted into the Live CD environment (which the Xubuntu 10.04 one couldn't ....)
[19:52] <taleman> I tried xfce-panels and i got a floating point exception
[19:56] <taleman> does anyone know how to get the panels back  in xubuntu?
[19:56] <Sysi> !panels
[19:56] <Sysi> didn't work?
[19:56] <taleman> i get a floating point exception
[19:59] <taleman> yea the panels flicker then disappear, if i run the command in a terminal then i get a floating point exception message
[20:00] <Kutagh> >	Jeezus... For some reason Xubuntu doesn't want to boot... First the normal install CD for Xubuntu doesn't want to install, I installed it with the Alternate CD, now rebooted.... And it got stuck after the logo...... Using the old Ubuntu disc I got, it actually booted into the Live CD environment (which the Xubuntu 10.04 one couldn't ....)
[20:05] <taleman> any idea what might be causing the floating point exception?
[20:29] <ryan_languagelab> hey all... I upgraded to 10.4 and was messing around with the window manager themes. I selected one of them (can't remember which) and I was immediatley logged out of my Xfce session and now cannot log back in
[20:29] <ryan_languagelab> it seems like X is failing with that window manager theme but i've checked the X.org logs and can't see anything obvious... where should I start looking?
[20:30] <ryan_languagelab> also....where does Xubuntu store the window manager theme settings... I will gladly change it back to "Albatross"
[20:37] <ryan_languagelab> Hello?
[20:46] <ryan_languagelab> hello?
[21:04] <Sysi> seems that we have bug in some theme
[21:04] <Sysi> i was in sauna, i would have known that :/
[21:46] <abhifx> hi there. my plymouth doesnt work with the error could not connect to plymouth. can anyone help?
[23:19] <_Techie_> Sysi, know anything about recompiling kernel modules
[23:43] <chookie> ok..
[23:44] <chookie> im trying to install xubuntu 9.10 PPC on a ps3.....
[23:44] <chookie> it hangs at "deregistering" usb.....why?
[23:48] <_Techie_> chookie, i have knowledge of PPC based systems, but not PS3's
[23:51] <dankuss> damn
[23:51] <dankuss> its the same as a PPC, but somereason it hangs at "deregistering"