[09:43] <bencrisford> that was the best nights sleep I have had in a long time :)
[09:43] <bencrisford> morning all
[14:09] <mhall119> morning
[14:28] <bencrisford> mhall119: afternoon :P
[14:29] <mhall119> afternoon?  I'm not even done with my first cup of coffee
[15:02] <stgraber> hello
[15:19] <bencrisford> mhall119: lol, dont mention coffee :( im trying to give up
[15:19] <bencrisford> stgraber: hi :)
[15:19]  * bencrisford is teaching his lil' cousin bash
[15:19] <bencrisford> not sure hes taking it all in...
[15:21]  * etali wishes her niece would sit down in front of a computer long enough to even reach the "not taking it in" stage
[15:21] <mhall119> bencrisford: don't give up, quitters never win
[15:21] <bencrisford> anyway, its pouring with rain, and where I come from that normally means "lets go for a walk" :D
[15:21] <mhall119> bencrisford: teach him python, it's easier
[15:21] <bencrisford> etali: haha
[15:22] <bencrisford> mhall119: truth is I just wanted to work on a script I started the other day, and he wont leave my side
[15:23] <mhall119> lol
[15:23] <mhall119> that's how my son got started with python, actually
[15:23] <bencrisford> lol, nice :)
[15:23] <mhall119> bencrisford: how old?
[15:23] <etali> Maybe try Python if he shows an interest in doing something himself?  The results can look more exciting, which is a motivator
[15:23] <bencrisford> mhall119: err, 10-ish?  I dunno, he seems young for his age
[15:24] <bencrisford> etali: I used alot of zenity so it probably seemed exciting to him anyway
[15:24] <bencrisford> I will suggest python to him though
[15:24] <bencrisford> I think he could do well with it :)
[15:24] <mhall119> bencrisford: my son is 6, he likes this game: http://img62.imageshack.us/i/quinnlaby.png/
[15:25] <mhall119> there's also Jono's new PyJunior
[15:25] <mhall119> and several others, like Rurple and Guido Von Robot
[15:25] <bencrisford> I used to love games like that
[15:25] <bencrisford> anyway, im going walkies :D
[15:25] <bencrisford> back in a bit
[15:25] <etali> Enjoy the rain :)
[15:26] <mhall119> I'm kicking around the idea of making a myst-like game, only you solve the problems by writing Python snippets
[15:27] <etali> mhall119: That sounds cool!  There's too many fake programming / hacker games these days, one where you do some real code would probably interest a lot of geeks.
[15:29] <mhall119> I'm thinking that instead of saving their progress, i'll save their code, and then run through the game progress until they hit a stage without code
[15:29] <mhall119> I'd call it "reboot", but I think I'd be sued
[15:31] <etali> lol, how about POST, or Bootstrap?  (With POST you could make it stand for something different - Programmers Only Save Terra, or whatever the world in the game is called :-p)
[15:31]  * etali wonders if ReBoot is still as cool as they remember it being.
[15:32] <mhall119> no
[15:33] <etali> no as in "reboot has aged really badly"?
[15:34] <mhall119> yeah
[15:34] <mhall119> CGI has come a long way since, what, 1994?
[15:35] <etali> Wow, I forgot it had been that long!  I re-wo
[15:35] <etali> ^^ I re-watched Battle of the Planets (was that the 80s?) recently, really regretted spoiling my memories of that *cringe*
[15:36] <mhall119> lol
[15:36] <mhall119> yeah, I stay away from childhood favorites for exactly that reason
[15:36] <mhall119> but I think a game with an actual plot, isntead of just loco-style sprite control, would be a cool way to learn python
[15:37] <mhall119> like, the entire world is make from code, and you have to modify parts to get the environment to behave differently
[15:37] <mhall119> in order to solve the game
[15:37] <mhall119> and it'll teach you different constructs as at each level
[15:38] <mhall119> I'll have to play with pygame to figure out how to do this though
[15:38] <mhall119> and lack of any kind of scene graph will make is more difficult to animate
[15:39] <etali> It sounds like a pretty complex undertaking if you want to give the user the freedom to arrive at the right result any way they want to
[15:40] <etali> Really cool idea, but I'm getting a headache just thinking about vague ways of doing it :)
[15:42] <mhall119> well I wouldn't make everything about the environment hackable
[15:42] <humbolto> how can I prevent certain partitions to show in nautilus/places?
[15:42] <humbolto> I find some howtos that involve hal, which recently has been removed from ubuntu, so that does not help anymore.
[16:29] <bencrisford> well that was a pleasant walk
[16:29] <bencrisford> (hmm, sarcasm doesnt always work over IRC)
[16:30]  * bencrisford really needs some caffeine
[17:16] <bencrisford> Hmm, I can't seem to find a time-tabling software for linux
[17:17] <bencrisford> I might start working on one
[17:17] <bencrisford> education-wise it could help schools timetable lessons, and students timetable revision
[17:22] <humbolto> Evince does not work in Lucid LTSP.
[17:22] <humbolto> filed a bug already
[17:22] <humbolto> but can somebody confirm that?
[21:07] <bencrisford> isforinsects: it seems I have not accepted you in to the advocacy team yet :/, i'm sorry I thought i'd done that