| ryanakca | valorie: OK, email me your postal address and I'll send some over. myIRCnick@kubuntu.org | 00:47 |
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| DarkwingDuck | Any idea on an ETA for the new branding on the website? | 00:48 |
| ryanakca | DarkwingDuck: I think this week | 00:52 |
| DarkwingDuck | Okay cool. :) | 00:52 |
| DarkwingDuck | I still need to pull the SVG for the new logo | 00:52 |
| DarkwingDuck | And the font. | 00:52 |
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| valorie | ryanakca: sent | 01:03 |
| valorie | thanks again | 01:04 |
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| imbrandon | evenign all | 01:36 |
| ScottK | DarkwingDuck: OK. | 02:38 |
| ScottK | Evening imbrandon | 02:38 |
| jjesse | evening | 02:40 |
| ScottK | mmmm. Nice to be home. Downloads going ~30 times faster than they did in the hotel. | 02:52 |
| jjesse | total | 02:52 |
| jjesse | hotel internet always sucks | 02:52 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse: I talked to nixternal today, I think we are going to leave this doc release and bug run for Maverick to save the translators | 03:11 |
| jjesse | really??? why it is a lts | 03:14 |
| jjesse | we should be fixing bugs on lts's | 03:14 |
| jjesse | including doc bugs | 03:14 |
| jjesse | hold on brb | 03:15 |
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| jjesse | DarkwingDuck: would be interested to hear nixternal's reasoning | 03:17 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse: | 03:18 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse: I think that we should fix what we can and push it out like Matt talked about in May | 03:18 |
| jjesse | agreed | 03:19 |
| DarkwingDuck | I don't know nixternal's reasoning when I talked to him but, I agree with you that because it is an LTS we should bug fix ASAP | 03:19 |
| DarkwingDuck | I know he has no time so I'm guessing it's gonna be us to fix | 03:19 |
| DarkwingDuck | It's may 1st. How much time will you have this week? | 03:19 |
| jjesse | dont' know | 03:20 |
| jjesse | the problem is buildign the packages | 03:20 |
| jjesse | and that's what nixternal really hates doing | 03:20 |
| jjesse | unless you know how to do it? | 03:20 |
| jjesse | may 1st is today | 03:20 |
| jjesse | was today | 03:20 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yeah | 03:20 |
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| DarkwingDuck | I don't know how to build... Never done it but, I've been wanting to learn. | 03:20 |
| jjesse | i think we just need to get as many fixed as possible and then figure out how to update | 03:20 |
| DarkwingDuck | Agreed | 03:21 |
| DarkwingDuck | I've assigned myself 11 | 03:22 |
| DarkwingDuck | there are three new | 03:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | That is 14 reported bugs. | 03:23 |
| jjesse | and i have think i 1 or 2 | 03:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | You want to talk what you have and those new ones and see what we can kick out by next fri night? | 03:24 |
| jjesse | sure | 03:24 |
| jjesse | asign them to me pleaze | 03:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yup, what's your LP name? | 03:25 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse? | 03:25 |
| jjesse | yea | 03:25 |
| DarkwingDuck | kk | 03:25 |
| DarkwingDuck | We'll kick these out by fri night and we'll get them rebuilt. Just upload to the lp:kubuntu-docs branch or, upload the paches to the bugs and I'll figure out what branch to place them in. | 03:26 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse: assigned | 03:30 |
| jjesse | awesome thanks | 03:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | NP We'll get this kicked out. Let's go ahead and upload to the maverick branch so they are fixed there for +1 anyway. | 03:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | nixternal: when you get a chance ping me. | 03:38 |
| jjesse | agreed | 03:38 |
| jjesse | commit to both lucid and maverick | 03:38 |
| jjesse | is lucid now lp:kubuntu-docs/lucid and maverick lp:kubuntu-docs? | 03:38 |
| DarkwingDuck | correct | 03:38 |
| jjesse | cool will make sure i have the latest updates | 03:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | sweet. Up downloading to my laptop and desktop too | 03:39 |
| jjesse | time for bed for me | 03:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | Okay, :) I'll hunt you down on friday :P I'll pop an email to ya when I finish a bug | 03:40 |
| jjesse | cool thanks | 03:41 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: I don't know how to install without damaging the current installation, virtual machine isn't option I guess, with 512 MiB ram | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | Tm_T: what ya after ? | 09:18 |
| Tm_T | imbrandon: ppc images needs install test | 09:19 |
| imbrandon | Tm_T: ah | 09:19 |
| Tm_T | but I don't want to crap out the system I need to use | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | right | 09:20 |
| imbrandon | yea thats not a good thing | 09:20 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: OK. I guess it's up to nixternal then. | 12:00 |
| Tm_T | shame I can't help more ): | 12:12 |
| oxymoron | Hi guys, how do I fix this? http://pastebin.com/Cs8zah5G | 13:28 |
| jussi | ScottK: yup, it works. let me know if you need something else. :) | 14:04 |
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| Daskreech | Hallo. Is it kdeinit that starts the kdebluetooth on login ? | 15:20 |
| sithlord48 | hey devel ppls. can some one possibly expain this oddity i had durring install, i installed (saveing my /home partition) after install my video worked 100% desktop effects nice plymouth (i have a raideon 4830HD) . after first reboot i had lost glx and 3d accel, and was prompted by jockey to install fglrx driver. now ulgy plymouth , can anyone explain this oddity | 15:34 |
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| Quintasan | sithlord48: this a problem with the driver itself if I am informed correctly. There was a solution somewhere on softpedia but I can't say for sure whether it works. | 15:59 |
| sithlord48 | ok but what driver was i useing before restart the radionhd one? | 16:00 |
| Quintasan | sithlord48: probably the opensource radeon | 16:00 |
| Quintasan | sithlord48: wait, you have installed FGLRX, right? | 16:00 |
| sithlord48 | now i have | 16:01 |
| Quintasan | sithlord48: I think Kubuntu uses radeonhd by default | 16:01 |
| sithlord48 | i know its causeing my ulgy plymouth, but i want the open driver if my 3d is gonna work | 16:01 |
| Quintasan | sithlord48: 3D is NOT working for you when you are using FGLRX? | 16:01 |
| sithlord48 | no everything is working fine w/ fglrx | 16:02 |
| Quintasan | sithlord48: if you want to fix the plymouth you can try this -> sithlord48: if you are running fglrx now -> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml | 16:02 |
| Quintasan | sithlord48: though I can't guarantee it will work | 16:03 |
| sithlord48 | after installed the os on that first boot i had working 3d accel , i restarted after installing a few programs none related to xorg or video drivers. after the system came back up i had no 3d accel and the hw wizard told me i should install a "restricted driver" | 16:03 |
| sithlord48 | i would like to know what happened to the working 3d accel after the first reboot | 16:04 |
| sithlord48 | i guess i will try the plymouth fix, anyway since its all ulgy. im just annoyed that the glx and 3d worked w/ the opendriver for 1 time and not another.. (perhaps its a bug in that drver too) | 16:10 |
| DarkwingDuck | grrrr... I'm really sick of the ram drain from Firefox | 16:24 |
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| imbrandon | google chrome | 17:49 |
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| Quintasan | apachelogger: now that I know the basics Qt seems easier than before :P | 19:17 |
| ofirk | Riddell: hey :D | 19:18 |
| ofirk | Riddell: the release notes for Lucid points to http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/10.04/ for iso download | 19:19 |
| ofirk | Riddell: why not point to the download page, where more download options and some explanations are available? | 19:20 |
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| Riddell | ofirk: good idea, go ahead | 20:00 |
| maco | Riddell: can you change the kubuntu.org header to have the new logo? | 20:01 |
| Riddell | maco: no that needs sysadmins to change the theme which they should be doing next week anyway for ofirk's new theme | 20:02 |
| maco | does ofirk's new theme have the new logo? | 20:02 |
| Riddell | yes | 20:03 |
| ghostcube | meeeeh jackd still not in main ;( | 20:18 |
| ofirk | Riddell: are you in contact with the sysadmins? | 20:23 |
| * Tm_T huggles ofirk | 20:27 | |
| ofirk | wow, thanks :) | 20:28 |
| * ofirk wonders why? | 20:28 | |
| Tm_T | because hugging is fun? | 20:29 |
| * Tm_T hides | 20:29 | |
| ofirk | lol | 20:30 |
| * ofirk huggles Tm_T back :) | 20:30 | |
| apparle | is there any software center for kubuntu/KDE... or is one being developed? | 22:15 |
| apparle | anyone here | 22:19 |
| ulysses | You can install the software-center package too | 22:20 |
| apparle | ulysses: you mean the existing on for ubuntu? | 22:23 |
| ulysses | yes | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | o/ | 22:24 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: sounds about right ^^ | 22:24 |
| apparle | So basically if I am thinking of making a software center for project for SoK it would not be creating which already exists | 22:25 |
| * apachelogger imagines that difficult in a KDE context | 22:26 | |
| apparle | apachelogger: didn't understand | 22:27 |
| apachelogger | apparle: how do you plan to make this work across all distros? | 22:27 |
| apparle | apachelogger: basically the app will call kpackagekit which is there on all distros | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | that is a false assumption | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | packagkit does somewhat work on fedora and ubuntu/debian | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | but that is about it | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | also some distros resent the concept of pk | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | so IMHO you'd need a generic abstraction ontop of all the packaging mess, which is something I wanted to do for age ^^ | 22:29 |
| apachelogger | the problem is, when making software for KDE you must not make assumptions about what is there or not, from a KDE pov the only thing that is there is KDE + its deps | 22:30 |
| Sput | for some distros, pk isn't nearly sufficient too :) | 22:30 |
| apachelogger | technically you shouldnt even consider distro integration for starters | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | Sput: which is probably why they do not like it ;) | 22:31 |
| Sput | apachelogger: yep :) | 22:31 |
| apparle | so... I think targetting Kubuntu would be good enough... but at least it would be a start | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | apparle: well, it is Season of KDE, not Season of Kubuntu :/ | 22:32 |
| apachelogger | proposing it to be kubuntu-only will render the likelyhood of getting accepted towards 0 | 22:32 |
| apachelogger | </personal opinion> | 22:33 |
| apparle | apachelogger: would start off with kpackagekit... and then with time it can include support for various distros package managers | 22:33 |
| apparle | and what happened to kgrupeditor.... | 22:33 |
| apparle | is there an app for grub2 | 22:34 |
| * ulysses uses GRUB legacy | 22:34 | |
| apparle | I could do that for project | 22:34 |
| apparle | kgrubeditor2 | 22:35 |
| apachelogger | apparle: I do not think that is a good approach... that way you do not only bind it to a very specific package management software but only one UI version of it | 22:36 |
| apachelogger | apparle: if I were you I would propose to sort the underlying mess first ... i.e. create a backend-agnostic KDE API for package management interactions | 22:37 |
| apachelogger | kind of what KAuth is for authentication | 22:37 |
| apparle | ohh | 22:37 |
| apparle | apachelogger: but as you know I don't have any damn experience in development | 22:37 |
| apachelogger | that would not only allow you to create a software center that is truely indepedent of a backend, but also solve a whole bunch of other problems | 22:37 |
| apachelogger | key word: package splitting | 22:37 |
| apachelogger | apparle: I do not know the specific requirements towards a SoK proposal, but maybe you could just do the theoretical stuff ;) | 22:38 |
| apachelogger | apparle: I would bring this up in #kde-devel and ask for some opinions | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | but from where I am standing, only draftig up a design for such a system would be worth a lot | 22:41 |
| apparle | apachelogger: I don't mind working on somepart of it | 22:41 |
| apparle | apachelogger: you are talking about KDE api for package management or the whole software center stuff? | 22:42 |
| apachelogger | apparle: former | 22:42 |
| apparle | no problem.... coz later would be very simple based on the former | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | exactly | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | well | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | let's say "easier" ... a software center itself is enough a complex piece of software IMHO | 22:45 |
| apparle | apachelogger: :D | 22:46 |
| apparle | apachelogger: its just that all the ideas I am coming up with are way above my level | 22:46 |
| apparle | is there any kgrubeditor for grub2 | 22:47 |
| apparle | apachelogger: you started stuff at kde-devel | 22:47 |
| * apachelogger thinks that most ideas can be reduced by going away from thinking about end-user ready products :) | 22:47 | |
| apparle | apachelogger: :D | 22:48 |
| apparle | I would like to work on that api thing.... but I don't know whom to approach... it will need a mentor for starters..... | 22:48 |
| apparle | apachelogger: and I would need a lot of mentoring :D | 22:49 |
| apparle | apachelogger: you there? | 22:54 |
| apachelogger | apparle: just post to the kde-devel mailing list | 22:55 |
| apparle | apachelogger: oh... i thought you were on #kde-devel | 22:56 |
| apparle | apachelogger: as for the kgrubeditor you know anyone working on it for grub2 | 22:56 |
| apachelogger | no idea | 22:57 |
| apparle | apachelogger: tell me if anything happens.... I am not always in kubuntu-devel but am usually in kubuntu (I am yet to become a developer :)) | 23:05 |
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