[00:47] valorie: OK, email me your postal address and I'll send some over. myIRCnick@kubuntu.org [00:48] Any idea on an ETA for the new branding on the website? [00:52] DarkwingDuck: I think this week [00:52] Okay cool. :) [00:52] I still need to pull the SVG for the new logo [00:52] And the font. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [01:03] ryanakca: sent [01:04] thanks again === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [01:36] evenign all [02:38] DarkwingDuck: OK. [02:38] Evening imbrandon [02:40] evening [02:52] mmmm. Nice to be home. Downloads going ~30 times faster than they did in the hotel. [02:52] total [02:52] hotel internet always sucks [03:11] jjesse: I talked to nixternal today, I think we are going to leave this doc release and bug run for Maverick to save the translators [03:14] really??? why it is a lts [03:14] we should be fixing bugs on lts's [03:14] including doc bugs [03:15] hold on brb === jonathan__ is now known as jjesse [03:17] DarkwingDuck: would be interested to hear nixternal's reasoning [03:18] jjesse: [03:18] jjesse: I think that we should fix what we can and push it out like Matt talked about in May [03:19] agreed [03:19] I don't know nixternal's reasoning when I talked to him but, I agree with you that because it is an LTS we should bug fix ASAP [03:19] I know he has no time so I'm guessing it's gonna be us to fix [03:19] It's may 1st. How much time will you have this week? [03:20] dont' know [03:20] the problem is buildign the packages [03:20] and that's what nixternal really hates doing [03:20] unless you know how to do it? [03:20] may 1st is today [03:20] was today [03:20] Yeah === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [03:20] I don't know how to build... Never done it but, I've been wanting to learn. [03:20] i think we just need to get as many fixed as possible and then figure out how to update [03:21] Agreed [03:22] I've assigned myself 11 [03:23] there are three new [03:23] That is 14 reported bugs. [03:23] and i have think i 1 or 2 [03:24] You want to talk what you have and those new ones and see what we can kick out by next fri night? [03:24] sure [03:24] asign them to me pleaze [03:25] Yup, what's your LP name? [03:25] jjesse? [03:25] yea [03:25] kk [03:26] We'll kick these out by fri night and we'll get them rebuilt. Just upload to the lp:kubuntu-docs branch or, upload the paches to the bugs and I'll figure out what branch to place them in. [03:30] jjesse: assigned [03:30] awesome thanks [03:31] NP We'll get this kicked out. Let's go ahead and upload to the maverick branch so they are fixed there for +1 anyway. [03:38] nixternal: when you get a chance ping me. [03:38] agreed [03:38] commit to both lucid and maverick [03:38] is lucid now lp:kubuntu-docs/lucid and maverick lp:kubuntu-docs? [03:38] correct [03:39] cool will make sure i have the latest updates [03:39] sweet. Up downloading to my laptop and desktop too [03:40] time for bed for me [03:40] Okay, :) I'll hunt you down on friday :P I'll pop an email to ya when I finish a bug [03:41] cool thanks [09:12] ScottK: I don't know how to install without damaging the current installation, virtual machine isn't option I guess, with 512 MiB ram [09:18] Tm_T: what ya after ? [09:19] imbrandon: ppc images needs install test [09:19] Tm_T: ah [09:20] but I don't want to crap out the system I need to use [09:20] right [09:20] yea thats not a good thing [12:00] Tm_T: OK. I guess it's up to nixternal then. [12:12] shame I can't help more ): [13:28] Hi guys, how do I fix this? http://pastebin.com/Cs8zah5G [14:04] ScottK: yup, it works. let me know if you need something else. :) === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:20] Hallo. Is it kdeinit that starts the kdebluetooth on login ? [15:34] hey devel ppls. can some one possibly expain this oddity i had durring install, i installed (saveing my /home partition) after install my video worked 100% desktop effects nice plymouth (i have a raideon 4830HD) . after first reboot i had lost glx and 3d accel, and was prompted by jockey to install fglrx driver. now ulgy plymouth , can anyone explain this oddity === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [15:59] sithlord48: this a problem with the driver itself if I am informed correctly. There was a solution somewhere on softpedia but I can't say for sure whether it works. [16:00] ok but what driver was i useing before restart the radionhd one? [16:00] sithlord48: probably the opensource radeon [16:00] sithlord48: wait, you have installed FGLRX, right? [16:01] now i have [16:01] sithlord48: I think Kubuntu uses radeonhd by default [16:01] i know its causeing my ulgy plymouth, but i want the open driver if my 3d is gonna work [16:01] sithlord48: 3D is NOT working for you when you are using FGLRX? [16:02] no everything is working fine w/ fglrx [16:02] sithlord48: if you want to fix the plymouth you can try this -> sithlord48: if you are running fglrx now -> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml [16:03] sithlord48: though I can't guarantee it will work [16:03] after installed the os on that first boot i had working 3d accel , i restarted after installing a few programs none related to xorg or video drivers. after the system came back up i had no 3d accel and the hw wizard told me i should install a "restricted driver" [16:04] i would like to know what happened to the working 3d accel after the first reboot [16:10] i guess i will try the plymouth fix, anyway since its all ulgy. im just annoyed that the glx and 3d worked w/ the opendriver for 1 time and not another.. (perhaps its a bug in that drver too) [16:24] grrrr... I'm really sick of the ram drain from Firefox === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [17:49] google chrome === yofel_ is now known as yofel === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === jonathan__ is now known as jjesse [19:17] apachelogger: now that I know the basics Qt seems easier than before :P [19:18] Riddell: hey :D [19:19] Riddell: the release notes for Lucid points to http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/10.04/ for iso download [19:20] Riddell: why not point to the download page, where more download options and some explanations are available? === jefferai is now known as jefferai_gone [20:00] ofirk: good idea, go ahead [20:01] Riddell: can you change the kubuntu.org header to have the new logo? [20:02] maco: no that needs sysadmins to change the theme which they should be doing next week anyway for ofirk's new theme [20:02] does ofirk's new theme have the new logo? [20:03] yes [20:18] meeeeh jackd still not in main ;( [20:23] Riddell: are you in contact with the sysadmins? [20:27] * Tm_T huggles ofirk [20:28] wow, thanks :) [20:28] * ofirk wonders why? [20:29] because hugging is fun? [20:29] * Tm_T hides [20:30] lol [20:30] * ofirk huggles Tm_T back :) [22:15] is there any software center for kubuntu/KDE... or is one being developed? [22:19] anyone here [22:20] You can install the software-center package too [22:23] ulysses: you mean the existing on for ubuntu? [22:23] yes [22:24] o/ [22:24] Quintasan: sounds about right ^^ [22:25] So basically if I am thinking of making a software center for project for SoK it would not be creating which already exists [22:26] * apachelogger imagines that difficult in a KDE context [22:27] apachelogger: didn't understand [22:27] apparle: how do you plan to make this work across all distros? [22:28] apachelogger: basically the app will call kpackagekit which is there on all distros [22:28] that is a false assumption [22:28] packagkit does somewhat work on fedora and ubuntu/debian [22:28] but that is about it [22:28] also some distros resent the concept of pk [22:29] so IMHO you'd need a generic abstraction ontop of all the packaging mess, which is something I wanted to do for age ^^ [22:30] the problem is, when making software for KDE you must not make assumptions about what is there or not, from a KDE pov the only thing that is there is KDE + its deps [22:30] for some distros, pk isn't nearly sufficient too :) [22:31] technically you shouldnt even consider distro integration for starters [22:31] Sput: which is probably why they do not like it ;) [22:31] apachelogger: yep :) [22:31] so... I think targetting Kubuntu would be good enough... but at least it would be a start [22:32] apparle: well, it is Season of KDE, not Season of Kubuntu :/ [22:32] proposing it to be kubuntu-only will render the likelyhood of getting accepted towards 0 [22:33] [22:33] apachelogger: would start off with kpackagekit... and then with time it can include support for various distros package managers [22:33] and what happened to kgrupeditor.... [22:34] is there an app for grub2 [22:34] * ulysses uses GRUB legacy [22:34] I could do that for project [22:35] kgrubeditor2 [22:36] apparle: I do not think that is a good approach... that way you do not only bind it to a very specific package management software but only one UI version of it [22:37] apparle: if I were you I would propose to sort the underlying mess first ... i.e. create a backend-agnostic KDE API for package management interactions [22:37] kind of what KAuth is for authentication [22:37] ohh [22:37] apachelogger: but as you know I don't have any damn experience in development [22:37] that would not only allow you to create a software center that is truely indepedent of a backend, but also solve a whole bunch of other problems [22:37] key word: package splitting [22:38] apparle: I do not know the specific requirements towards a SoK proposal, but maybe you could just do the theoretical stuff ;) [22:40] apparle: I would bring this up in #kde-devel and ask for some opinions [22:41] but from where I am standing, only draftig up a design for such a system would be worth a lot [22:41] apachelogger: I don't mind working on somepart of it [22:42] apachelogger: you are talking about KDE api for package management or the whole software center stuff? [22:42] apparle: former [22:44] no problem.... coz later would be very simple based on the former [22:44] exactly [22:44] well [22:45] let's say "easier" ... a software center itself is enough a complex piece of software IMHO [22:46] apachelogger: :D [22:46] apachelogger: its just that all the ideas I am coming up with are way above my level [22:47] is there any kgrubeditor for grub2 [22:47] apachelogger: you started stuff at kde-devel [22:47] * apachelogger thinks that most ideas can be reduced by going away from thinking about end-user ready products :) [22:48] apachelogger: :D [22:48] I would like to work on that api thing.... but I don't know whom to approach... it will need a mentor for starters..... [22:49] apachelogger: and I would need a lot of mentoring :D [22:54] apachelogger: you there? [22:55] apparle: just post to the kde-devel mailing list [22:56] apachelogger: oh... i thought you were on #kde-devel [22:56] apachelogger: as for the kgrubeditor you know anyone working on it for grub2 [22:57] no idea [23:05] apachelogger: tell me if anything happens.... I am not always in kubuntu-devel but am usually in kubuntu (I am yet to become a developer :)) === oxymoron_ is now known as oxymoron