| Drecondius | Hello | 09:38 |
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| Drecondius | anybody here that can answer a question? | 09:38 |
| miha | i hope gnome/ubuntu will one day understand it's ugly to pack useless addon software in core package. i'd prefer thunderbird to evolution, but how to remove evolution without removign gnome. same for 2 obsolete mozilla derivates... if ubuntu had market share half of M$ you'd face huge trials for this :D | 10:33 |
| jpds | miha: You can't, evolution forms a central part of GNOME? | 10:35 |
| miha | well IE makes central part of windows, but M$ was forced to offer choice. | 10:38 |
| miha | windows update only works with IE | 10:39 |
| miha | still users can remove IE :D | 10:39 |
| miha | jpds not that i care about wasting GB's.. just a thought | 10:40 |
| jpds | miha: I still think it's a GNOME uptream problem, not ours. | 10:43 |
| joaopinto | miha, I am not sure what you are refering to, you can safely remove evolution | 10:46 |
| joaopinto | jpds, upstream are our problems too, it works on both directions | 10:46 |
| jpds | I've just tried here, and it seems to only want to remove evolution-* packages. | 10:46 |
| JanC | miha: you can easily remove evolution without removing all of gnome? | 10:51 |
| miha | cool. ok, what about emphaty and emphiphany (cant find that package) ? | 10:54 |
| miha | :D | 10:54 |
| miha | pidgin will go to, there's no match for amsn :D | 10:55 |
| switchgirl | anyone found a fix for Bug 569543 | 12:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 569543 in gwibber "Could not identify preference: username Could not identify preference: session_key failure yet authed for services" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/569543 | 12:48 |
| switchgirl | ? | 12:48 |
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| joaopinto | hi | 16:24 |
| joaopinto | my gnome theme randomly fails to apply on login, what log should I check and which package should I file the bug against ? | 16:24 |
| desrt | is anyone else experiencing indicator-applet growing to eat 10GB of memory? | 17:34 |
| JanC | joaopinto: sounds like the gnome settings daemon doesn't load (correctly) or something | 18:47 |
| joaopinto | JanC, I have checked .xsessions-error and there was an error about gnome settings | 18:47 |
| joaopinto | I will file a bug on the next occurrence, the issue is not 100% reproducible, happened on 3/6 boots today | 18:48 |
| ccheney | anyone know why lucid can't play back hdv format anymore? | 18:49 |
| joaopinto | when the problem happens there are other gnome session startup apps which fail, like tomboy, reporting that tomboy dbus is not available | 18:49 |
| * ccheney is working on tracking down when it broke | 18:49 | |
| JanC | joaopinto: it's related to programs in the session being started in parallel I think (which makes things faster, but sometimes causes weird issues like that) | 18:51 |
| joaopinto | JanC, do you know if there is a bug report about it ? | 18:51 |
| JanC | some sort of race condition I suppose | 18:51 |
| JanC | I suppose there are many ☺ | 18:51 |
| JanC | but no idea about a master bug or such | 18:51 |
| joaopinto | I have noted that gnome-do sometimes dos not start on the startup, I guess it might be related | 18:52 |
| ccheney | it appears gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly between 9.04 and 9.10 dropped support for HDV | 22:19 |
| * ccheney checks to see if this is a regression from hardy-lucid | 22:22 | |
| ccheney | annoying in any case, i can't play my video camera video anymore, hadn't tried in a while since my move and it doesn't work anymore :-\ | 22:23 |
| ccheney | it looks like between 9.04 and 9.10 it actually started detecting what type of video it is, but then stopped playing it | 22:26 |
| ccheney | yea worked in 8.04 also | 22:39 |
| ccheney | so this appears to be a issue of better detection then refusal to play, and/or code was removed | 22:40 |
| * ccheney checks 9.10 again closer to see if it did work there | 22:40 | |
| ccheney | prior to 9.10 it did not detect the video well enough so you had to manually install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly to play it, now it does detect it but says there is no codec to play it | 22:42 |
| mdeslaur | ccheney: what progress :) | 22:44 |
| ccheney | mdeslaur: yea | 22:45 |
| ccheney | mdeslaur: looking at 9.10 closer to make sure the codec didn't maybe just move somewhere | 22:45 |
| * ccheney looks in changelog also to see if it was purposely broken | 22:47 | |
| ccheney | nothing in debian changelog at least | 22:48 |
| ccheney | and no noticable bugs in debian or ubuntu about it | 22:49 |
| ccheney | we just pull directly from debian apparently so i guess i should ping him to see | 22:52 |
| ccheney | hmm actually it did work if i just cancel out of the screen that tells me i need another codec | 23:04 |
| ccheney | very weird | 23:04 |
| ccheney | hmm now it doesn't play anymore, wtf | 23:06 |
| ccheney | ok I got it to play but it does tell me it doesn't have the codec to play and seems a little crashy, played fine on 9.04 and before without the claim of no codec | 23:07 |
| ccheney | so it seems to be primarily it has no clue it already has the codec to play and complains for every file it attempts to play | 23:10 |
| ccheney | if you ignore the complaint it then does work | 23:11 |
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