/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/05/02/#ubuntu-manual.txt

IlyaHaykinsongodbyk: thx for the lime survey invite02:02
IlyaHaykinsonand thanks for setting it up02:02
godbykIlyaHaykinson: No problem.02:02
godbykI've set you up as an admin.02:02
godbykFeel free to play around.02:02
godbykI just got it online.02:02
godbykI haven't really set up anything yet.02:02
godbyk(I have no idea what I'm doing.)02:02
godbykI'll turn it over to you and let you have at it. :)02:02
IlyaHaykinsonokie dok.02:02
godbykLet me know if you run into any problems.02:03
daker!l03:55
Q_BOT.977 Sweeper - 194 (http://icecast3.977music.com/hitz)03:55
manualbotFactoid 'l' not found03:55
daker!l03:55
Q_BOTShaggy - Luv Me, Luv Me (http://icecast3.977music.com/hitz)03:55
humphreybchmm08:04
* humphreybc is doing a python lab08:04
humphreybchere's the question08:04
humphreybcsong = "The rain in Spain..."08:05
humphreybc"Describe the relationship between ' '.join(song.split()) and song. Are they the same for all strings? When would they be different?08:05
godbykI have no idea what it means by 'describe the relationship'.08:14
humphreybci asked in #nzpug08:14
godbykIt'll split song into space-delimited tokens and piece them back together separating by spaces.08:14
humphreybcbasically, they would almost be the same except that split() skips over multiple spaces08:15
godbykI think that split() by default will not return the empty elements, so that line would remove double spaces.08:15
godbykbut I could be wrong.08:15
godbyksweet! so I'm write then. (or at least in agreement with them.)08:15
godbykcrap.. s/write/right/08:15
godbykthat's embarrassing. :)08:16
humphreybcha!!!08:17
humphreybcthat is SO embarassing08:17
humphreybcoops08:17
humphreybcembarrassing*08:17
humphreybcgah08:19
humphreybcsee if you can help me with this one08:19
humphreybchttp://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/d6BconKvLH08:21
* humphreybc dislikes programming 08:22
* humphreybc gives up08:29
godbyklol08:31
godbykit's not so bad.08:31
godbykdid you learn for loops?08:31
humphreybcyeah but i've always been shit at for loops08:31
humphreybcactually, make that loops in general08:31
godbykah, well, we're going to use a for loop.08:31
godbykso you'll have to get the hang of it.08:31
* humphreybc feels unbelievably stupid08:32
ubuntujenkinsmorning o/10:10
thorwilmorning!10:15
ubuntujenkinshey thorwil, how are you?10:18
thorwilubuntujenkins: i'm fine. just recovering from stepping into the ubuntu wiki to create a main page for the next release10:19
ubuntujenkinslol10:19
thorwiloh how i would love to see more intelligence and etherpad like editing there. with a theme that doesn't look like a half-assed attempt from the 90ies10:19
thorwilubuntujenkins: and you?10:20
ubuntujenkinsI am good, going to do lots of uni work today.10:20
thorwilah university ... those where the days when i still had a perfectly fine place in society and things seemed to progress on a clear path :)10:22
ubuntujenkinsI have to much work unfortnatly not enought time to code quickshot at the moment. can't wait till I finish and have time to do so.10:23
humphreybcthorwil: do you have skype?10:43
thorwilhumphreybc: yes. my spoken english is horrible, though10:43
godbykhumphreybc: http://www.reinteract.org/trac/10:46
humphreybcgodbyk, sent it to my HOD10:47
godbykI typically use it for things like this: http://fishsoup.net/software/reinteract/10:47
c7phello10:51
ubuntujenkinshey c7p10:51
c7pafter the release of Ubuntu manual, I haven't heard any plans about the translated versions10:52
c7pwhat about them?10:52
* godbyk hides10:52
* humphreybc also hides10:52
humphreybcshhh, we're not here10:52
humphreybcc7p: they'll be out very soon10:53
humphreybcjust hold your horses10:53
c7pok :p10:53
humphreybcc7p: you want to be the Greek editor?10:53
c7phm10:53
humphreybcwe need editors for each language to check everything10:53
humphreybcand to work with godbyk to make sure the formatting looks good in the PDF10:53
c7peditors just ensure that the translations are ok (and also the latex tags) ?10:54
godbykc7p: we'll have to rearrange the margin notes a bit so they align nicely with the associated text, too.10:55
godbykand generally make sure the pdf looks perfect before it's released10:55
c7phm great10:56
c7pi think this Monday any bad the translations will be corrected, so in the week we can do the job, if you have free time of course10:57
ubuntujenkinshas anyones manual book arrived yet?11:06
godbykNope, not yet.11:10
godbykMine still says it's being processed, I think.11:10
ubuntujenkinsmy status is "fulfilling"11:11
godbykubuntujenkins: mine is, too11:13
* ubuntujenkins wants it to hurry up :)11:13
wyhhi there, I find there no Chinese version of manual website, who can fix it?11:13
wyhThe translation is finished.11:14
godbykwyh: We'll get the translations incorporated soon.11:14
wyhgodbyk: fine. and the Chinese triditional translation is actually the simplified version, please correct it11:15
godbykwyh: I'll make a note of that and pass it along to our web developers. Thanks!11:16
wyhgodbyk: that is to say, the triditional version has not been translated yet11:16
wyhgodbyk: fine, thank you11:16
godbykHey, daker.  wyh just pointed out that the Chinese translation on the website needs to be updated.11:19
godbykdaker: I think the Greek translation also needs to be updated.11:19
dakeroki11:19
humphreybcwyh: meet daker, our web developer :)11:20
wyhdaker: hi11:20
wyhdaker: the site looks nice11:21
wyhdaker: the dropdown menu item for Chinese simplified is missing. should be 简体中文11:23
wyhdaker: and the item for Chinese triditional should use 繁體中文 or 中文(繁體字). the current one is in simplified Chinese11:25
wyhleave for meal. bye everyone...11:26
dakerback11:33
ubuntujenkinshello Q_BOT11:53
dakerubuntujenkins, Q_BOT is my Bot12:06
ubuntujenkinsdaker: I guessed that, thats why i said hello :P12:07
daker!quickshot12:07
Q_BOThttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.12:07
manualbotFactoid 'quickshot' not found12:07
daker!wiki12:08
manualbothttp://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.12:08
Q_BOThttp://www.ubuntu-manual.org/quickshot : Quickshot wiki12:08
ubuntujenkinsyey \o/ quickshot factoids12:08
godbykhumphreybc, thorwil: http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2005/02/how_to_create_a.html12:08
daker!code12:08
manualbotProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator12:08
Q_BOThttps://code.launchpad.net/quickshot : browse Quickshot source code12:08
ubuntujenkinscan we use a ? and not a ! so that we dont invoke manual bot?12:09
dakeryes12:09
ubuntujenkinsdaker: do with have a Q_BOT factoids list?12:13
dakerright now no12:13
ubuntujenkinskk12:14
dakeri need to know how to write a string with multiple line, do you know ?12:14
ubuntujenkinsI don't understand your question12:15
ubuntujenkins\n is new line12:15
dakera oki12:16
daker!help12:18
manualbotPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)12:18
ubuntujenkins!botcode12:30
manualbotFactoid 'botcode' not found12:30
ubuntujenkins!bot12:30
manualbotHi! I'm ubottu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins12:30
ubuntujenkins!botsnack12:31
manualbotYum! Err, I mean, APT!12:31
humphreybchey daker, how's it going?12:31
dakerfine12:32
humphreybcgodbyk, thorwil, maybe we should design some sort of nice charter, maybe in latex or an image with the core principles laid out in nice font and stuff12:32
fenreHow often do you update the translations of the website?12:32
godbykhumphreybc: when they're finished, we can look into it, sure.12:33
dakerfenre, i am updating it right now12:33
fenreI see that a lot of languages is finished translated, but appearing purple in launchpad12:33
fenredaker, thanks :)12:33
thorwilhumphreybc: with a service where everyone can order the charter and you will send them a signed copy, sealed with wax?12:33
godbykheh12:34
godbykI could provide that service... for a small fee. ;-)12:35
thorwilheh, a business plan, get venture capital!12:36
humphreybcthorwil: possibly!12:38
humphreybcheh12:38
* humphreybc now has chocolate, a cookie, ginger beer and milk.12:38
thorwilgodbyk: what's the adjective form of empathy?12:49
godbykthorwil: empathic?12:49
thorwilgodbyk: maybe, but it seems that's used more often to mean stressed or accented12:50
godbykthorwil: Sometimes 'empathetic', but usually 'empathic'.12:50
thorwilanyway, that's what i wanted to say regarding helping the user. to be emphatic12:51
godbykAh.12:51
godbykTo borrow Kathy Sierra's phrase, we should strive to help our readers kick ass.12:52
thorwilheh12:52
thorwilsomehow the mental picture does not connect to the typical tasks we cover ;)12:53
godbykIt's not about 'learning Ubuntu', it's about helping people achieve their goals and have fun in the process.12:53
godbykThey should have a feeling of accomplishment.12:53
godbykNot because they've *managed* to *figure out* how to get their photos off their camera,12:54
godbykbut because they are enjoying looking at the photos as they organize their collection.12:54
thorwilexactly12:55
thorwilgodbyk: isn't it beautiful how we sing in harmony? :)12:55
godbykIt's all about the user/reader.12:55
godbyk:)12:55
godbykI think that showing that our manual can help you accomplish X or Y is better than saying 'our manual is easy to understand'.12:57
godbykThat attitude also informs our writing style.12:57
humphreybcI agree :)12:58
godbykIt should be written in a friendly, conversational tone.  Not 'here are the 17 steps you must go through to import your photos from your camera to f-spot.'12:58
humphreybcyup13:03
humphreybcwe should become Gnome, not KDE.13:03
humphreybc:P13:03
ubuntujenkins!quickshot13:06
manualbotFactoid 'quickshot' not found13:06
ubuntujenkins?quickshot13:06
Q_BOThttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.13:06
QuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.13:06
ubuntujenkinsyey daker, I like it a lot13:06
daker!help13:06
manualbotPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:06
daker?help13:07
QuickShotBotUsage : ?<factoids> or +<factoids> or -<factoids>,13:07
ubuntujenkins-quickshot13:07
QuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.13:07
ubuntujenkinssweet13:07
daker?ppa13:07
QuickShotBotAlready using Ubuntu 10.04? Add our PPA by running these commands in a terminal(Applications → Accessories → Terminal):13:07
dakerthe strings are not working :s13:07
ubuntujenkinshave you a bzr branch of the code? then i can see if i can help13:08
dakerjust a minute13:08
ubuntujenkinsor if its one file past bin it13:09
godbykOkay, I'm off to bed.13:11
godbykSee you guys later!13:11
ubuntujenkinssee you later godbyk13:11
c7pthe default search engine for lucid, isn't yahoo ?13:21
ubuntujenkinsnope its google13:22
c7pok thank you13:23
ubuntujenkinsthey changed their minds half way though the devlopment13:24
c7pso there is no deal between canonical and yahoo ?13:25
c7p*.13:25
ubuntujenkinsI guess not, although i con't actually know13:25
dakerubuntujenkins, i pushed the code13:26
ubuntujenkinswhere?13:26
dakerlocated in /bot/quicksot.py13:26
dakerlp:quickshot13:26
ubuntujenkinscan you please pastbin it i can't connect to launchpad13:29
dakersure13:30
dakerhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/426407/13:32
dakerubuntujenkins, the problem is located in quickshot_use, quickshot_ppa and quickshot_help strings13:34
dakerthe \n doesn't work13:34
ubuntujenkinsdoes it work in ?quickshot   ?13:34
dakeryes13:35
dakerah no no i am not sure13:35
ubuntujenkinswhy are they not with the stuff thats in lines 92 - 106 ?13:36
daker?quickshot13:37
QuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.13:37
ubuntujenkinsnope it should say  It is written in Python and uses Glade for the user interface. at the end13:38
dakeryes13:38
ubuntujenkins?paste13:38
QuickShotBothttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com : upload snippets of text13:38
dakerthe stuff in lines 92 - 106 is an array of array13:39
dakerit used in13:39
dakerif word in links:13:39
daker    say(channel, links[word][0]+' : '+links[word][1])13:39
daker    time.sleep(2)13:39
dakeri know13:40
ubuntujenkinswe have differtn line numbers13:40
dakerwell irc is seeing the \n as a command13:40
dakerdebug13:40
daker:verne.freenode.net 421 QuickShotBot It :Unknown command13:40
ubuntujenkinsof course13:40
ubuntujenkinshttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/426407/ look at lines 92 to 106 surely thats where quickshot_use and ppa an help should go13:41
ubuntujenkins!bot13:41
manualbotHi! I'm ubottu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins13:41
ubuntujenkins!source13:42
manualbotYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html13:42
ubuntujenkins!botsource13:42
manualbotFactoid 'botsource' not found13:42
dakeroki13:42
ubuntujenkinsjust going to see if the uboot has new lines in13:43
ubuntujenkinsubot is more complex than your bot13:47
dakeryes13:47
daker?quickshot13:48
QuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.13:48
ubuntujenkinsI can't think how to escape the \n13:49
daker?ppa13:49
QuickShotBotAlready using Ubuntu 10.04? Add our PPA by running these commands in a terminal(Applications → Accessories → Terminal):13:49
ubuntujenkins\n13:49
ubuntujenkinsbut i can type \n13:49
dakerhhh13:49
dakerbrb13:49
daker?help13:51
QuickShotBotUsage : ?<factoids> or +<factoids> or -<factoids>,13:51
dakerfu***13:51
ubuntujenkinshow do i run it so that i can test it?13:51
dakerline 2713:52
dakerchange the nickname13:52
ubuntujenkinsyep was going to do that13:52
daker$ python script.py13:53
ubuntujenkinsanything else i should change? wow its that simple13:53
dakerthat's all13:53
daker?ppa13:55
QuickShotBotAlready using Ubuntu 10.04? Add our PPA by running these commands in a terminal(Applications → Accessories → Terminal):13:55
ubuntujenkinsI haven't made any chages yet13:55
ubuntujenkinshow do you make it quit cleanly?13:55
ubuntujenkins\\n13:56
dakercan rephrase your question pls13:56
dakeryou13:56
ubuntujenkinshow do i make the bot leave the channel?13:56
dakerfor CTRL+C13:57
ubuntujenkinsok thanks13:57
ubuntujenkins?quickshot13:57
luke2-quickShotBhttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future. \n It is written in Python and uses Glade for the user interface13:57
QuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.13:57
dakerhaha13:57
dakerbrb13:58
ubuntujenkins?quickshot14:00
LQuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.14:00
QuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.14:00
ubuntujenkins?quickshot14:01
LQuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.14:01
QuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.14:01
ubuntujenkins?quickshot14:01
LQuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future. It is written in Python and uses Glade for the user interface.14:01
QuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.14:01
ubuntujenkins?quickshot14:04
LQuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.14:04
QuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.14:04
ubuntujenkins?useage14:05
ubuntujenkins?help14:05
QuickShotBotUsage : ?<factoids> or +<factoids> or -<factoids>,14:05
dakerhhh14:05
dakerubuntujenkins, anything ?14:13
nisshhcan someone give me a hand with something?14:14
nisshhjust really quickly14:14
ubuntujenkinsno I like te way you have formated the factoids the \n thing is usefull14:14
ubuntujenkinsnisshh: go for it14:14
ubuntujenkinsI will do my best14:14
nisshhim having problems trying to untar .tar.gz archives in the terminal14:14
nisshhand i have no idea why its not working14:14
ubuntujenkinsdaker: where did you get the source from14:15
nisshhfor instance i have a file called example.tar.gz, and i go: tar -zxvf example.tar.gz14:15
nisshhand that comes up with:14:15
nisshhtar: -zxvf: Cannot open: No such file or directory14:16
ubuntujenkinsis the tar.gz file corrupt? does it work in the gui?14:17
nisshhit works fine using the gui14:17
nisshhand no its not corrupt since i have tried multiple .tar.gz's14:18
nisshhim completely stumped14:18
nisshhany ideas?14:19
ubuntujenkinstry with out the z flag random idea, i have no clue14:19
* ubuntujenkins hhm the bot keeps timing out14:20
nisshhubuntujenkins: what does that bot do?14:21
ubuntujenkinsIts a bot for quickshot information, daker's idea. there are two of them at the moment so i will not invoke it14:22
ubuntujenkinsnisshh: you question is a strange ont14:23
ubuntujenkins*one14:23
nisshhcool14:23
nisshhill help you test it out later14:24
ubuntujenkinswe are using ? or - or + so not to invoke manualbot14:24
nisshhok14:24
nisshhhehe, there it goes again!14:25
ubuntujenkinsdaker: any idea why it keeps quiting by its self?14:25
ubuntujenkins?quickshot14:25
LQuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future. It is written in Python and uses Glade for the user interface.14:25
ubuntujenkinsjust noticed daker quict his one14:25
dakerubuntujenkins, cause he is not ponging the server14:26
ubuntujenkinscan we impliment that?14:26
dakeri'am working on14:27
ubuntujenkinsok thanks, I am still trying to understand this new line thing14:27
dakeroki14:27
ubuntujenkinsdid you write this from scratch or is i biased on something?14:28
dakerfrom scratch but some stuff are taken from BeeBot14:28
ubuntujenkinslol http://www.tts-group.co.uk/Bee-Bot first google result14:29
ubuntujenkinssorry nisshh but i can't think why you have a tar problem.14:30
dakernisshh, type : $ ls14:31
nisshhdaker: in the terminal?14:36
dakeryes14:36
dakertype14:36
nisshhwhy?14:36
dakerls14:36
dakertar: -zxvf: Cannot open: No such file or directory14:37
dakerjuste to see if the file is located there14:37
nisshhdaker: i know for a fact that the archive already exists there, i created it14:37
nisshhdaker the whole error is this:14:38
nisshhtar: -zxvf: Cannot open: No such file or directory14:38
nisshhtar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now14:38
nisshhtar: Child returned status 214:38
nisshhtar: pspshrink-1.1.2.tar.gz: Not found in archive14:38
nisshhtar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors14:38
nisshhthats the entire error14:38
dakerO.o14:38
daker?help14:38
QuickShotBotUsage : ?<factoids> or +<factoids> or -<factoids>,14:38
nisshh?yummy14:39
dakeri can't help you14:39
nisshhaw it doesnt work14:39
daker:)14:39
ubuntujenkins?wiki14:39
QuickShotBothttp://www.ubuntu-manual.org/quickshot : Quickshot wiki14:39
nisshhdaker: thats ok, i just posted about it on UF too14:39
daker?bug #57141814:42
QuickShotBotBug #571418 in quickshot: "Add option for custom username and hostname", https://bugs.launchpad.net/quickshot/+bug/57141814:42
manualbotLaunchpad bug 571418 in quickshot "Add option for custom username and hostname" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57141814:42
LQuickShotBotBug #571418 in quickshot: "Add option for custom username and hostname", https://bugs.launchpad.net/quickshot/+bug/57141814:42
manualbotLaunchpad bug 571418 in quickshot "Add option for custom username and hostname" [Wishlist,In progress]14:42
ubuntujenkinslol three bots doing bugd14:43
ubuntujenkins*bugs14:43
daker?bugs14:43
QuickShotBothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/quickshot : report bugs14:43
daker?blueprint14:43
QuickShotBothttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/quickshot : register plans for Quickshot14:43
daker?home14:43
QuickShotBothttp://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org : Quickshot website14:43
ubuntujenkinsdaker: I have moved my testing to #quickshot14:44
nisshhWOW! the new openbox is freaking fast!15:42
dakerubuntujenkins, is there any plan for quickshot dev ?17:35
ubuntujenkinsas in the bot daker?17:37
dakerno, what we are going to do for the next release ?17:38
ubuntujenkinsdaker https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/quickshot/next-release-plan17:39
dakertnx17:39
ubuntujenkinsno problem17:40
dakershould i put the stuff in /server/ ?17:44
ubuntujenkinsdaker: proably best to make its own branch and i will ask godbyk if he will host it17:52
dakeroki17:53
ubuntujenkinsdaker: Is is possible for us to teach it new factoids over irc? I guess not at the moment18:00
ubuntujenkinsif all the factoids were a list in another file it might be possible i guess18:01
dakersure ?18:03
daker:D18:03
ubuntujenkinsI was just think as currently you have to restart it if you added a new factoid to the file18:04
dakerwe should ask dutchie , or someone good in python18:04
ubuntujenkinsI will have a proper look once my exams are over18:05
ubuntujenkinsits very good thanks daker18:06
dakeryou are welcome18:07
dakerat the end we should fine someone how will run it on his computer or something like that18:08
daker find*18:08
ubuntujenkinsyep I will run it when my laptop is on.have you fixed the timing out issue?18:08
dakeryes18:08
ubuntujenkins8on my laptop for testing18:08
ubuntujenkinsthats good18:09
dakerthere is a lot work to do with the quickshot server side18:27
ubuntujenkinsthere is, alot of quickshot work over all18:29
ubuntujenkinsI can't start the program until i finish exams and course work18:29
dakerwhen ?18:30
ubuntujenkins18th june18:30
ubuntujenkinsno 15th june18:31
dakerwell good luck18:33
ubuntujenkinsthanks18:33
ubuntujenkinscan't wait to get back to quickshot18:33
ubuntujenkinsbrb18:34
ubuntujenkinsdaker: where can i find the latest code?18:42
dakerof what ?18:43
dakerthe bot ?18:43
ubuntujenkinsyep18:43
dakerlp:quickshot/bot/18:43
ubuntujenkinsthanks18:43
dakerwho will design the mockup for the quickshot website ?18:44
ubuntujenkinserm I think it should look the same as the manual but with differnt text/images. ben might do some18:45
ubuntujenkinsthe same as we are under the manual website18:45
dakeroki18:46
ubuntujenkinsdaker: what i don't understand is why the factoids are in two different places. i.e the ones with 'paste': ('http://pastebin.ubuntu.com','upload snippets of text'), and the ones with quickshot_help = 'Usage : ?<factoids> or +<factoids> or -<factoids>,'18:49
dakerthe factoids in 'paste': ('http://pastebin.ubuntu.com','upload snippets of text'), are in array18:50
ubuntujenkinsbut can't they all be in an array?18:51
dakeryes18:51
ubuntujenkinssoryr python knowledge is very limited18:51
dakerme too18:51
ubuntujenkinsI only know the stuff i need for quickshot18:51
dakerjoin #python18:53
ubuntujenkinsI am there18:53
dakerdo i need to register a new branch for the server ?18:54
ubuntujenkinsno use lp:quickshot/server . the current serve is running from lp:quickshot/release18:55
dakeroki18:55
ubuntujenkinsany thing you do in lp:quickshot/server will not show any where18:55
ubuntujenkins?help18:55
QuickShotBotUsage : ?<factoids> or +<factoids> or -<factoids>,18:55
daker?h18:56
QuickShotBotUsage : ?<factoids> or +<factoids> or -<factoids>,18:56
ubuntujenkins#12365818:56
ubuntujenkins #12365818:56
ubuntujenkinsbug #12365818:56
manualbotLaunchpad bug 123658 in pida "test report" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12365818:56
ubuntujenkinsbug 12365818:56
daker?bug 12365818:56
QuickShotBotBug #123658 in pida: "test report", https://bugs.launchpad.net/quickshot/+bug/12365818:56
manualbotLaunchpad bug 123658 in pida "test report" [Undecided,Invalid]18:56
ubuntujenkinsbut thats not a quickshot bug18:56
dakertry to follow the link18:57
ubuntujenkinsI just did and is still works :)18:57
ubuntujenkinsI am going to cook be back soon18:58
ubuntujenkinsr12319:39
ubuntujenkinsyep dutchie broke manualbot he wrote over the database that told it to look up manual revsions19:42
ubuntujenkinsf19:42
dakerhhhhh19:42
daker!hello19:42
manualbotHi! Welcome to #ubuntu-manual! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!19:42
ubuntujenkinso may be not19:42
dakerbug 400019:42
manualbotLaunchpad bug 4000 in gnome-power-manager "Wrong temperature reading after resume " [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/400019:42
ubuntujenkinsbut19:43
ubuntujenkins!ot19:43
manualbot#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!19:43
ubuntujenkinsthat factoid has changed19:43
IlyaHaykinsoni'm doing some brainstorming about user research -- http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/xniGvB2Nlq19:43
ubuntujenkinsthere was a manual one19:43
ubuntujenkins?use19:57
QuickShotBot1 - Open Quickshot (Applications → Accessories → Quickshot)2 - Create a Quickshot user and login3 - Let Quickshot set your screen resolution4 - Download the list of screenshots5 - Choose a screenshot6 - Set your desktop up7 - Capture, Compare and Upload.19:57
dakerubuntujenkins, you will become crazy19:59
ubuntujenkinsI all ready am :-)19:59
ubuntujenkins?q20:06
ubuntujenkinsdaker: can you make the bot quit please20:06
daker?q20:07
ubuntujenkins?quickshot20:07
dakerchange the value value the array setting["owner"] to your irc nickname20:08
ubuntujenkins?quickshot20:09
ubuntujenkinsdaker: I will20:09
ubuntujenkins?quickshot20:13
ubuntujenkins?quickshot20:14
ubuntujenkins?q20:15
ubuntujenkins?quickshot20:16
ubuntujenkins?quickshot20:16
ubuntujenkinsdaker: did you use an auto indenter?20:17
daker???!!!20:18
ubuntujenkinsto indent the code like20:18
ubuntujenkinsif(line.split(' ')[1]=='JOIN'):20:18
ubuntujenkinschannel = line.split(' ')[2][1:].strip()20:19
ubuntujenkins20:19
ubuntujenkinsfor the spaces at the front how did you make them?20:19
dakertab key20:19
ubuntujenkinsI did the same but they are ment to 4 spaces.20:20
dakerare you using Gedit20:20
daker?20:20
ubuntujenkinsyes20:20
ubuntujenkinsWhen i started quickshot i was told not to use tab but to use 4 spaces. I don't know why20:20
ubuntujenkinsit is the best way to do it apparently20:21
dakeryes20:21
dakerwe learn :D20:22
ubuntujenkinsyep, I am trying to get it to read the factoids from a file20:22
dakermanualbot, is reading factoids from a file ?20:23
manualbotdaker: Error: "is" is not a valid command.20:23
manualbotdaker: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:23
ubuntujenkinsit reads them from a database20:23
ubuntujenkins?q20:29
ubuntujenkins?quickshot20:30
ubuntujenkins?q20:30
ubuntujenkins?quickshot20:32
dakergodbyk, ping20:36
dakergodbyk, http://flexpaper.devaldi.com/index.php20:39
dakerubuntujenkins, http://flexpaper.devaldi.com/index.php20:40
ubuntujenkinsdaker: I like it20:43
dakeri think we will implement this on the website20:43
ubuntujenkinssounds like a plan20:43
dakerwe will see if we can convert the manuals in swf format20:44
ubuntujenkins?help > ubuntujenkins20:56
QuickShotBotUsage : ?<factoids> or +<factoids> or -<factoids>,20:56
ubuntujenkins?help | ubuntujenkins20:57
QuickShotBotUsage : ?<factoids> or +<factoids> or -<factoids>,20:57
ubuntujenkins? quickshot20:57
ubuntujenkins?20:57
dakera lot of bugs20:57
ubuntujenkins?quickshot20:57
ubuntujenkinshmm reading from a file is hard, but understanding ubot is just as hard20:58
daker!bot20:58
manualbotHi! I'm ubottu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins20:58
dakerubuntujenkins, for the \n we should see here http://irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/rfc.html21:03
ubuntujenkinsin some of th efactoids we could end up flooding the channel if we put stuff on new lines21:05
daker!disks21:06
manualbotFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap21:06
ubuntujenkinsquickshot is http://quickshot.ubuntu-manual.org','Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future. \n It is written in Python and uses Glade for the us21:21
ubuntujenkinser interface.'21:21
* ubuntujenkins wonders when dutchie will be back from oggcamp21:34
ubuntujenkins?hello21:48
ubuntujenkins+hello21:48
quickshotbotubuntujenkins: Error: "hello" is not a valid command.21:48
ubuntujenkins+bot21:48
quickshotbotubuntujenkins: Error: "bot" is not a valid command.21:48
ubuntujenkins+bot | ubuntujenkins]21:52
quickshotbotubuntujenkins: Error: Spurious "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.21:52
ubuntujenkins+bot | ubuntujenkins21:52
quickshotbotubuntujenkins: Error: "bot" is not a valid command.21:52
ubuntujenkins+bot > ubuntujenkins21:52
quickshotbotubuntujenkins: Error: "bot" is not a valid command.21:52
dakerubuntujenkins, move here #quickshot21:55
c7pwth22:31
c7pi don't have evolution under Applications >> Internet but >> Office22:32
c7pdo you ?22:32
ubuntujenkinsoffice for me to c7p22:34
c7pso the string 635 should be corrected ( https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/lucid-e1/+pots/ubuntu-manual/el/635/+translate )22:36
ubuntujenkinsyes c7p it should22:37
ubuntujenkins+quickshot22:52
quickshotbotubuntujenkins: "quickshot" could be Quickshot is a python application designed to make it easy for all users to capture translated screenshots using an intuitive and semi-automated step-by-step process. Its principal use is with the Ubuntu Manual Project but it will also support configuration and customization for other projects in the near future.22:52
ubuntujenkins+blueprints23:02
quickshotbotubuntujenkins: "blueprints" could be https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quickshot register plans for Quickshot23:02
ubuntujenkins+ChannelStats23:10
quickshotbotubuntujenkins: On #ubuntu-manual there have been 1 messages, containing 0 characters, 0 words, 0 smileys, and 0 frowns; 0 of those messages were ACTIONs.  There have been 0 joins, 1 part, 0 quits, 0 kicks, 0 mode changes, and 0 topic changes.23:10
ubuntujenkins+seen godbyk23:13
quickshotbotubuntujenkins: I have not seen godbyk.23:13
ubuntujenkinsnight all23:13

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