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mahfouzis chromium from the beta channel the same as the one in lucid repos?15:57
mahfouzI mean the beta ppa15:58
ftamahfouz, yes16:17
GuitarInc1how does ubuntu deal with EOL firefox packages?17:17
micahgGuitarInc1: we're upgrading them :)17:30
GuitarInc1Firefox 3.6 will be supported for the entire lifecycle of 10.04?17:30
micahgGuitarInc1: no, it'll most probably be upgraded to 3.7 and maybe 4.017:31
GuitarInc1will 3.6 users be prompted to upgrade to 3.7/4.0?17:32
micahgGuitarInc1: yes, the package itself will be upgraded so it will be seamless17:32
GuitarInc1oh17:32
GuitarInc1wow17:32
GuitarInc1very slick :-)17:32
micahgwe're actually upgrading hardy and jaunty soon to 3.617:33
GuitarInc1what if there are installed plug-ins that are incompatible with future firefox releases?17:33
micahgGuitarInc1: we'll upgrade them if we can17:34
micahgGuitarInc1: generally by the time a version is EOL, > 80% of the addons have been upgraded17:35
GuitarInc1sounds about right17:36
GuitarInc1micahg: one more question: is the alpha 64-bit flash player available in the ubuntu repository?  Or do I have to manually grab it from adobe's website?17:39
micahgGuitarInc1: we don't package it because there are no guaranteed security updates, depending on your chipset, 32 bit + nspluginwrapper works fine17:40
GuitarInc1micahg: okay, thnx for the info :-)17:41
LLStarksmy god17:47
LLStarksthat addons manager is fugly17:47
LLStarksno gnome17:47
LLStarksbreaks extensions17:47
LLStarksmicahg, fta, did they back it out yet?17:48
micahgLLStarks: yes17:53
micahgLLStarks: but I think fta suspended the daily builds until we get more PPA builders back17:54
ddecatormicahg: was lorentz introduced in ff 3.6 with .3 or .4?19:45
micahgddecator: will be in .419:51
ddecatormicahg: alright, thanks19:51
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mahfouzfta, I was just wondering if it would stay like this that chromium beta ppa is the same as ubuntu repos20:09
mahfouzbecause if so, we wouldn't need a beta ppa anymore20:09
ftait's needed at least for hardy to karmic20:10
ftaand the ppa is also the staging ground for the official repos20:11
ftaalso, the plan is to follow the stable channel once it's available for linux20:11
mahfouzok, i see20:14
LLStarksjeez, 3.7 is like charleston chew right now20:44
mahfouzLLStarks, is that good or bad? :)20:45
LLStarksbad20:45
ddecatorLLStarks: yah, a few things broke...anything specific you're having trouble with?20:46
mahfouzwell, the ipc stuff is still broken, right?20:47
mahfouzflash stuff20:47
LLStarksi want to castrate the person that pushed the addons manager20:47
ddecatorLLStarks: that double scrollbars? haha20:47
LLStarksit removed the ability to add menus to the addon list20:48
ddecatormahfouz: lorentz is working in 3.7 now20:48
mahfouzddecator, havent tried last week20:48
mahfouzthx20:48
mahfouzmaybe put that here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/51388720:49
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/513887)20:49
micahgLLStarks: we can't get a 3.7 build again until we get the PPA builders back21:03
LLStarkswell, then teach me. i need to learn the cold reality of debian packaging and compiling programs as if they'd be shipped with ubuntu.21:07
micahgLLStarks: I can ask fta to push it, but it'll be 2 to 5 days before they'21:12
micahgre done21:12
ftai think they'll reassign the builders tomorrow21:12
* micahg will bbiab21:15
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skierpageI run nightly 64-bit Firefox from http://ftp.mozilla.org in Kubuntu Lucid, but System Settings > Default Applications and other KDE machinery are unaware. I assume I need to integrate a .desktop file... How?22:03
skierpageMight the kubuntu-firefox-installer package integrate Firefox nightly better with Kubuntu?  It seems it just triggers installation...22:04
micahgskierpage: Mozilla builds are not made for KDE yet, if you want a KDE integrated build, please use the one in the lucid archvie22:13
skierpagemicahg Hey there!  I understand the less bleeding-edge ubuntu packages have integration, but I'm committed to firefox nightly.  I'm just looking for the simple integration steps.22:16
skierpagemicahg I'm going to grab the firefox.desktop from kubuntu-firefox-installer and tweak it.22:17
skierpagemicahg  BTW, how goes the thunderbird-3.1 ?  ;-)  Thanks for all you do.22:17
micahgskierpage: the installer does nothing, it's the patches and kmozillahelper22:19
micahgskierpage: probably won't have 3.1 done until after UDS22:20
micahgI might get 3.2 running fist22:21
micahg*first22:21
skierpagemicahg , I believe the firefox.desktop (with mods) will at least put Firefox nightly into menus and Default Applications.22:22
micahgskierpage: we have a nightly build as well, but not with KDE integration22:22
skierpagemicahg I know, I got started with a mozilla.org 64-bit build and stuck with it for 500 Help > Check for Updates :-)  Are there any functional differences between the ubuntu nightly package and http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly ?22:27
micahgskierpage: install in menu?22:27
micahgwe push updates as well22:28
skierpageok thanks, maybe I'll switch.  Gotta go, bye22:29
sebnermicahg: in TB my spam folder has the option: Look for new messages which is unchecked, why do I get mails then? Didn't happen in the past22:36
micahgsebner: you get new messages in your spam foldeR22:38
sebnermicahg: right, but I don't want them downloaded to TB22:40
micahgsebner: where is this option?22:41
sebnermicahg: right click on SPAM folder, Properties22:43
* micahg doesn't have a SPAM fodler22:44
micahg*folder22:44
sebnerheh22:44
micahgoh, I see the option on my Junk folder22:44
micahgI don't think I get updates for it, but I don't know22:45
micahgsebner: not for just spam22:50
micahgsebner: ok, so the checkbox means to poll the server for new messages in that folder22:51
sebnermicahg: I guess, and it's unchecked ..22:51
micahgsebner: not that new messages won't be moved there22:51
sebnerhm,22:51
micahgsebner: the only time you would need that checked is if you're using server side filters and want to poll multiple folders22:51
sebnerah22:52
sebnermicahg: so my only option is to delete the SPAM folder in TB?22:52
micahgsebner: what are you trying to do?22:52
sebnermicahg: Not getting anymore spam messages into my SPAM TB folder22:53
micahgsebner: where do you want your SPAM to go22:53
micahgsebner: you can configure the account settings to move it to the trash or delete if you like22:53
sebnermicahg: uhh, I'll take a look, just strange because before the fresh ubuntu/TB install I didn't have this problem22:54
micahgsebner: idk, maybe TB2 had other defautls22:54
sebnermicahg: ehm, I used TB3 also before the reinstall ;D22:55
micahgsebner: maybe your settings changed?22:55
sebnermicahg: nope, I never change anything. Mail account created (or copy old .tb folder) and go go go22:56
micahgsebner: idk then22:56
sebnermicahg: I found the option in the properties, thanks anyways22:57
micahgsebner: k22:57
micahgbbiab22:57
sebnermicahg: wow, you really like this net-slang, hmm? ^^22:57
micahgsebner: I got it from asac23:23
micahgasac: ping23:23

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