[05:14] hey all [05:14] I'm eager to install Ubuntu Studio, but my preferred desktop environment is KDE [05:14] How well does KDE perform with Ubuntu Studio? [05:41] Sylvester_Ink, i've seen posts at Ubuntu Forums that mention they use KDE with Studio [05:42] Ah, I checked but couldn't find any. Probably didn't look hard enough :P [05:42] Thanks! [05:44] One other thing, I mainly use linux for programming, but would like to toy around with Ubuntu Studio. Is there anything I should know about this setup, or should it work just the same as a standard ubuntu install [05:46] it works pretty much the same, it should at least because it's the same code base [05:46] Okay, I figured as much. Just wanted to make sure the optimizations didn't introduce anything new I should be aware of [05:46] (Still new at developing on Linux) [05:50] <_guitarman_> ScottL: i tried the low-latency kernel - didn't seem to make much difference compared to the generic [05:50] <_guitarman_> ScottL: not sure what others are finding [05:50] <_guitarman_> but thats what happened on my mininote [13:54] _guitarman_, thanks for the information [13:57] that's kinda surprising, the order is supposed to go -generic -> -preempt -> -lowlatency -> -rt [13:57] so the lowlatency should be pretty aggressive for low latency (no pun intended) [13:57] here's a good wiki page that abogani worked up [13:57] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel [13:58] if you want the 2.6.32 -rt kernel for i386 it is available in abogani's ppa (see link above for another link to the ppa) [14:13] oh, i should point out that the kernel wiki page listed above needs a little clean up which i have been meaning to do [14:14] but if you see something that needs correcting (e.g. a typo, something you know is wrong) then please log into the wiki and fix it! [14:14] this applies to everyone who uses Ubuntu Studio and has an account on wiki.ubuntu.com [14:15] i would encourage everyone to make corrections and even add pages that you think are necessary [14:18] ScottL: just so you dont have to go find it in the future: [14:18] !rt [14:18] The RT kernel is the Ubuntu kernel with a realtime preemption patch applied. It is included in Ubuntu Studio by default. For more information please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/ [14:19] although that page could do with an update.... [15:15] thanks jussi! [15:16] :) [15:57] The -rt kernel could do with an update too :( [16:06] why do you say that funkyHat ? [16:06] are you speaking of the -rt kernel version in the official repository? [16:07] I got a tip here that looked good but I lost it due to a crash, so I ask again. I already searched the IRC logs for the answer. I was told of an audio player written for dot.Net/CIL which allows rating songs. What is the name? [16:07] ScottL: yes [16:08] if so, you can get the 2.6.32 -rt kernel from Alessio Bogani's PPA [16:08] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel [16:08] funkyHat, look at the link above which has a link to his ppa :) [16:08] Mm, he suggested I do that on a bug I reported, but I haven't tried it yet. I should do. [16:08] Hopefully fglrx works with it... [16:09] ScottL: From abogani's PPA: linux-realtime 2.6.31-12.21 Alessio Igor Bogani (2010-03-08) [16:09] hmmm, maybe it's in the ubuntu studio ppa...hold on [16:10] i seem to remember that bogani had created a 2.6.32 -rt kernel [16:11] Seems he hasn't uploaded it, then. [16:11] ~ubuntustudio-dev has an even older version. [16:12] 2.6.32-12.40~ppa1 -lowlatency for amd64 -> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ppa/+build/1498091 [16:13] 2.6.32-12.40~ppa1 -lowlatency for i386 -> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ppa/+build/1498092 [16:13] but no -rt kernel :( [16:14] How did you dig those up? They're not in the package listing. [16:17] i started with the ubuntustudio-dev ppa and 'view package details' [16:18] then 'view all builds' and then filter by 'successfully built' [16:19] ah, but the long and short is that i need to talk with abogani again and clarify my understanding of the kernels apparently :( [16:19] maybe a chart on one of the wiki pages with the current available kernels and their locations [18:27] <_guitarman_> ScottL: thx - i added the repo which is how i got the low-latency kernel... its a good page on describing whats what, but yeah, didn't notice much. [23:11] why does ubuntu studio use a different installer? [23:11] why not use the regular ubuntu installer, i cant get my wifi working with the ubuntu studio staller