[05:14] <Sylvester_Ink> hey all
[05:14] <Sylvester_Ink> I'm eager to install Ubuntu Studio, but my preferred desktop environment is KDE
[05:14] <Sylvester_Ink> How well does KDE perform with Ubuntu Studio?
[05:41] <ScottL> Sylvester_Ink, i've seen posts at Ubuntu Forums that mention they use KDE with Studio
[05:42] <Sylvester_Ink> Ah, I checked but couldn't find any.  Probably didn't look hard enough :P
[05:42] <Sylvester_Ink> Thanks!
[05:44] <Sylvester_Ink> One other thing, I mainly use linux for programming, but would like to toy around with Ubuntu Studio.  Is there anything I should know about this setup, or should it work just the same as a standard ubuntu install
[05:46] <ScottL> it works pretty much the same, it should at least because it's the same code base
[05:46] <Sylvester_Ink> Okay, I figured as much.  Just wanted to make sure the optimizations didn't introduce anything new I should be aware of
[05:46] <Sylvester_Ink> (Still new at developing on Linux)
[05:50] <_guitarman_> ScottL: i tried the low-latency kernel - didn't seem to make much difference compared to the generic
[05:50] <_guitarman_> ScottL: not sure what others are finding
[05:50] <_guitarman_> but thats what happened on my mininote
[13:54] <ScottL> _guitarman_, thanks for the information
[13:57] <ScottL> that's kinda surprising, the order is supposed to go -generic -> -preempt -> -lowlatency -> -rt
[13:57] <ScottL> so the lowlatency should be pretty aggressive for low latency (no pun intended)
[13:57] <ScottL> here's a good wiki page that abogani worked up
[13:57] <ScottL> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[13:58] <ScottL> if you want the 2.6.32 -rt kernel for i386 it is available in abogani's ppa (see link above for another link to the ppa)
[14:13] <ScottL> oh, i should point out that the kernel wiki page listed above needs a little clean up which i have been meaning to do
[14:14] <ScottL> but if you see something that needs correcting (e.g. a typo, something you know is wrong) then please log into the wiki and fix it!
[14:14] <ScottL> this applies to everyone who uses Ubuntu Studio and has an account on wiki.ubuntu.com
[14:15] <ScottL> i would encourage everyone to make corrections and even add pages that you think are necessary
[14:18] <jussi> ScottL: just so you dont have to go find it in the future:
[14:18] <jussi> !rt
[14:19] <jussi> although that  page could do with an update....
[15:15] <ScottL> thanks jussi!
[15:16] <jussi> :)
[15:57] <funkyHat> The -rt kernel could do with an update too :(
[16:06] <ScottL> why do you say that funkyHat ?
[16:06] <ScottL> are you speaking of the -rt kernel version in the official repository?
[16:07] <edakiri> I got a tip here that looked good but I lost it due to a crash, so I ask again.  I already searched the IRC logs for the answer.  I was told of an audio player written for dot.Net/CIL which allows rating songs.  What is the name?
[16:07] <funkyHat> ScottL: yes
[16:08] <ScottL> if so, you can get the 2.6.32 -rt kernel from Alessio Bogani's PPA
[16:08] <ScottL> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[16:08] <ScottL> funkyHat, look at the link above which has a link to his ppa :)
[16:08] <funkyHat> Mm, he suggested I do that on a bug I reported, but I haven't tried it yet. I should do.
[16:08] <funkyHat> Hopefully fglrx works with it...
[16:09] <astraljava> ScottL: From abogani's PPA:  linux-realtime   2.6.31-12.21   Alessio Igor Bogani  (2010-03-08)
[16:09] <ScottL> hmmm, maybe it's in the ubuntu studio ppa...hold on
[16:10] <ScottL> i seem to remember that bogani had created a 2.6.32 -rt kernel
[16:11] <astraljava> Seems he hasn't uploaded it, then.
[16:11] <astraljava> ~ubuntustudio-dev has an even older version.
[16:12] <ScottL> 2.6.32-12.40~ppa1 -lowlatency for amd64 ->   https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ppa/+build/1498091
[16:13] <ScottL> 2.6.32-12.40~ppa1 -lowlatency for i386 -> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ppa/+build/1498092
[16:13] <ScottL> but no -rt kernel :(
[16:14] <astraljava> How did you dig those up? They're not in the package listing.
[16:17] <ScottL> i started with the ubuntustudio-dev ppa and 'view package details'
[16:18] <ScottL> then 'view all builds' and then filter by 'successfully built'
[16:19] <ScottL> ah, but the long and short is that i need to talk with abogani again and clarify my understanding of the kernels apparently :(
[16:19] <ScottL> maybe a chart on one of the wiki pages with the current available kernels and their locations
[18:27] <_guitarman_> ScottL: thx - i added the repo which is how i got the low-latency kernel... its a good page on describing whats what, but yeah, didn't notice much.
[23:11] <psidrum> why does ubuntu studio use a different installer?
[23:11] <psidrum> why not use the regular ubuntu installer, i cant get my wifi working with the ubuntu studio staller