| AnAnt | Hello | 07:59 |
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| AnAnt | I need to understand something regarding Ubuntu's new notification system | 08:00 |
| AnAnt | I understand that there's a plan to remove the notification area at some release (11.04 maybe) | 08:00 |
| AnAnt | now, regarding upstream software that use notification area, what should they do ? | 08:01 |
| AnAnt | if they use the new Ubuntu system, wouldn't that make them not usable for other distros ? | 08:01 |
| AnAnt | or does Ubuntu intend to patch those software, and keep maintaining maintaining the patches in Ubuntu | 08:02 |
| RAOF | AnAnt: Using the new Ubuntu system wouldn't /necessarily/ make their software less useful for other distros - it would be quite possible to use indicator-application where available, and a regular status icon where not available. | 08:09 |
| RAOF | AnAnt: That's a bit sucky, true. But upstreams are going to need to do something regardless - gnome shell doesn't include a notification area (at least for arbitrary applications), as far as I could tell. | 08:11 |
| AnAnt | RAOF: well, I have conservations about gnome-shell | 08:14 |
| AnAnt | RAOF: last time I tried it, it was even heavier than compiz | 08:14 |
| AnAnt | anyways, that's another issue | 08:16 |
| RAOF | AnAnt: In case you're interested, more idiomatic English would be “reservations about gnome-shell”. I think it's likely to remain heavier than gnome-shell, and I'm not mad about the idea of running a javascript interpreter, panel applet, and desktop search in the same process as my desktop compositor. | 08:16 |
| RAOF | Ahem. Likely to remain heavier than *compiz* :) | 08:16 |
| AnAnt | RAOF: thanks, English isn't my native language indeed. | 08:17 |
| AnAnt | well, I'm not mad about the idea either, but you see, I've disabled compiz because its heavy, now there is that gnome-shell that is even heavier | 08:18 |
| AnAnt | and some say that it might be the default one day on Ubuntu | 08:18 |
| AnAnt | so that makes me worry | 08:18 |
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| forNarnia | anyone else worried that chrome-os could nuke this whole thing from orbit? :p just messing with you. | 20:35 |
| qense | forNarnia: Different target audience. :) I don't see Chrome OS running on servers or workstations in the near future. | 20:36 |
| forNarnia | @qense cloud computing? | 20:37 |
| qense | forNarnia: partially, yes | 20:39 |
| forNarnia | opera has the right idea, bad form, individuals are becoming servers. chrome-os and cloud computing don't cover this audience. Ubuntu could. | 20:42 |
| forNarnia | dosen't cover it in the sense that the fastest path is the best path (typically), host to host. | 20:44 |
| forNarnia | so who is is feeling the windicators? | 20:54 |
| forNarnia | don't worry this message is not a lie, just curious what people think? | 20:54 |
| qense | I really like the idea/ | 20:56 |
| qense | I think it has great potential. | 20:56 |
| forNarnia | I was reading diego moya's oppinions about 4 parts | 20:57 |
| qense | The discussions get quite lengthy on the mailing list. | 20:57 |
| forNarnia | :p there like irc bursts | 20:58 |
| forNarnia | sharing what your currently working on imo is the best part of the windicators | 20:58 |
| qense | It is one of the many uses. | 20:59 |
| qense | You could put all that functionality in MenuItems, but this is much better. More consistent, easier to manipulate and easier to access. | 20:59 |
| forNarnia | well i know that all the top right status icons are being condensed into a few items | 21:00 |
| forNarnia | but why not put a share icon there instead | 21:00 |
| forNarnia | a share icon with a sorta global menu | 21:00 |
| forNarnia | think of google wave | 21:00 |
| forNarnia | you click a topic/ start one, and you add people | 21:01 |
| forNarnia | and type away, well with an OS. | 21:01 |
| qense | That would not make clear that it affects the content of your current window. | 21:01 |
| forNarnia | with the os, you start an application and the share icon would be the equivalent of the header in gwave | 21:02 |
| forNarnia | well the volume, mail are global things | 21:03 |
| qense | anyway, I'm shutting off | 21:04 |
| forNarnia | push contacts into the top right, mail icon becomes more of a sync icon still has mail setting stuff etc., with the mail icon showing when there's a message. | 21:07 |
| forNarnia | rather share icon/sync | 21:07 |
| forNarnia | ps. i liked the golden compass better then narnia, the book that is. | 21:15 |
| forNarnia | I like to talk about random things. | 21:18 |
| ScottK | In case you don't follow planet.kde: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2010/05/why-you-should-not-use-client-side-window-decorations/ | 22:15 |
| jcastro | ScottK: I saw and pinged ted and cody already via mail | 22:39 |
| jcastro | thanks for the heads up though | 22:39 |
| hamburger_ | should upgrade the window manager to allow apps to push into the middle top bar area while still keeping the consistent (left) min/max/close, and border. | 22:41 |
| hamburger_ | that way everyones happy | 22:41 |
| hamburger_ | like so, http://imgur.com/k7aEk | 22:59 |
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