[00:17] How long does it take to Gpart a 750 gig hard drive lol been going on 30 mins still step 1 of 3 [00:18] what are you doing with gpart? [00:18] moving data around? [00:18] i did a 500gb and took 1hour to reformat [00:18] moving partitions can take days or weeks [00:19] it is wiping the files from a previous persons backup making a 700 ext4 primary and a 30 gig primary fat32 [00:21] Although it doesn't make sense why this ever takes so long because the file tables are stored in a file and unlinking the filetable = free then just set it to ext4 in the filetable blah [00:24] question: [00:24] using Apache, how can I designate a subdomain? [00:24] such as sub.foo.com [00:24] assuming my site was foo.com [00:24] fqdn.conf ? [00:24] !fqdn [00:24] yes, but how can I map that to a specific folder [00:24] such as, say, /var/www/sub [00:25] or summat [00:25] sorry, i'm new to Apache xd [00:25] xD * [00:25] CaptainTrek: look at the example in /etc/apache2/sites-available [00:25] sorry Not sure how specify that you asked how to designate a subdomain and you should be able to just register it in the fqdn [00:26] I copy the default one, remove teh NameVirtualHost line at the top and add teh correct virtualhost in there [00:26] then just point that site at its own docroot (and probably its own set of log files too) [00:26] are you FAWKING kidding me [00:26] now my lost and found has all this drives contents BLAH [00:26] um... [00:27] that appears to be unrelated to apache... [00:27] cclausen: what about redesignating the root for that new entry? [00:27] would I change the entry for /var/www to /var/www/foo? [00:27] where foo is the filestore for the subdomain [00:27] are you adding an additional subdomain? [00:27] or changing the default one? [00:27] adding an additional subdomain [00:28] so my domain is trekweb.org [00:28] b/c people could still get to the content on the original just /foo [00:28] and subdomain could be foo.trekweb.org [00:28] do you really want to allow that? [00:28] no, i'm thinking of moving default to /var/www/mainsite [00:28] or summat [00:28] yeah, that is a good idea [00:28] cclausen: i used to use web hosting from a company, i'm trying to run it all off of my own systems now so I pay far less each year xD [00:29] so my question is still unanswered [00:29] in default AND the new subdomain [00:29] i specify what? [00:29] that the directory it has written into its entry now routes to somewhere else? [00:30] CaptainTrek: hold on, let me get you some examples [00:30] or would i need to set up something fancy DNS-side? [00:30] thanks [00:30] are your sub-domains on the same IP? [00:31] mhm [00:31] only running on one server right now [00:31] although it has two IPs connected to it [00:32] its dually connected to two static IPs through two ethernet NICs [00:32] regardless, trekweb.org routes to both [00:32] can't you just make a new line mirroring the first with the second nics ip? [00:32] you've lost me [00:33] the NICs run in a way so if one dies the other picks it up [00:33] i manually set which is active [00:34] regardless, the nics are in the same server [00:34] Apache needs to make the differentiation [00:34] not the IPs [00:34] hence why i'm here to ask if its possible [00:34] if it were possible DNS side, i wouldn't be here [00:35] ok Now i need help the other person helping isnt here [00:35] i copied over Server as a "livecd" [00:35] brb dinner [00:36] CaptainTrek: https://lsecure.admin.illinois.edu/~cclausen/apache/ [00:37] okay, so from what I can see there... [00:37] you made a second entry [00:37] ? [00:37] and messed where one's root directory is located [00:38] each site is in its own sub folder [00:38] ah [00:38] (I only listed two files, but there are several) [00:38] and each entry for the configs specifies where its own individual directory is in? [00:38] I also have logging set to go into the log folder per user [00:38] ah i see [00:38] NOW i got it [00:38] yep, pretty much [00:39] bascially, doc root for all of my sites is /var/www/SITEUSER/public_html [00:40] (this way I can abuse the apache userdors module to serve content as well) [00:40] heh [00:40] I actually created home diretories for each account under /var/www instead of in /home [00:40] well, assuming I'm not doing anything super fancy [00:40] b/c suexec gets stupid with paths otherwise and I wanted process isolation [00:41] only trick is that the default one needs to be loaded first when apache starts [00:41] GENERALLY SPEAKING... [00:41] in general it is symlinked 000-default so that it loads first [00:41] b/c default has the NameVirtualHost in it [00:41] and the other files do not [00:41] ah okay [00:41] i got that now [00:42] i think... [00:42] :/ [00:42] try it [00:42] worse case is that you break your web server :-) [00:42] heh [00:42] then i just kill the files, reinstall, boom, its fixed xD [00:43] i'm not near the server box just now, i'll test it later\ [00:43] thanks for the info though [00:45] if you want some help in the future, you can enable http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_info.html so that we can easily see your server config [00:46] alrighty, its quite likely i'll be asking for help then. :) [00:46] seeing how I'm new to Apache [00:47] the actual docs are at: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/ [00:47] although I was really happy when I got the damn thing to show the "It works!" default page in /var/www [00:47] xD [00:47] for virtual hosts [00:50] i'm running a test of Apache on a separate Ubuntu partition on my laptop, so if I mess up I ccan just nuke the partition and start over [00:50] xD [01:58] what does manage updates in landscape mean [01:59] !landscape [01:59] Landscape makes the management and monitoring of Ubuntu systems simple and effective by combining world-class support with easy to use online management tools. https://landscape.canonical.com/ === zz_monteith is now known as monteith [02:07] cclausen: Getting server installed this was is pretty easy [02:08] cool [02:21] how to install/start gnome on server ? [02:22] !gnome on server [02:22] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [02:22] has anyone been able to change the console resolution in 10.04? i tried adding GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 to /etc/default/grub and running 'sudo update-grub' but that only seems to be adjusting grub's resolution and not the console's [02:24] scar: I have that same problem. console is insanely slow under Hyper-V [02:24] dominicdinada: aptitude install ubuntu-desktop ? although I'd ask why do you want to install gnome on a server? [02:25] cclausen, Hyper-V? [02:26] scar: Microsoft Hyper-V is the hypervisor for some of my Ubuntu VMs [02:27] well i prefer a GUI and after this is all set up gui i would and need to remote admin it i have 3 pcs 2 linux 2 macs [02:28] dominicdinada: you don't need gnome for remote admin work. you can just ssh in [02:28] true... [02:29] and with X11 forwarding, you can run gui apps... but it will be quicker to learn the command line [02:30] scar I grew up on command lines but dont know linux in and out... [02:31] dominicdinada: aptitude upgrade is basically the general way to do updates [02:33] yes but one problem i am at is copy and paste or lack of in commandline [02:37] you should be able to copy and paste into an ssh session [02:54] scar: for your grub issues, edit /etc/default/grub and enable GRUB_TERMINAL=console and run update-grub [02:55] really? disable graphical terminal? what is that? [02:55] i'll give it a shot [02:58] cclausen, him it didn't work and it is showing the splash screen for a split second [02:59] i even have "nosplash" in the /etc/default/grub lol [03:02] did you run update-grub [03:03] doesn't get rid of teh frame buffer console though... [03:03] need to figure that out... [03:04] cclausen, yes i did.... it is strange the splash screen is coming up too [03:06] what file contains the subnet information for my wireless ? [03:08] is keyserver.ubuntu.com down? How do you check on it [03:11] scar: hmm.. I see what you mean. a brief splash of something shows up [03:11] even with kernel options nosplash nofb nomodeset [03:11] cclausen, it is the purple "Ubuntu 10.04" screen [03:13] yeah, need to look into getting rid of that... [03:23] if you turn back on "quiet" does it go away? [03:23] brb [03:26] Hi, I'm tryin out Ubuntu server for the first time and does the 10.04 server edition boot into some graphical mode? [03:26] The problem I'm getting is that after what I think is file systems are mounted, my monitor complains that the resolution is out of range. [03:27] I think I fixed it [03:27] I thought I installed an ssh server but it's refusing ssh connections... so I need a display. [03:27] I edited /etc/init/plymouth-splash.conf and changed the start on to start off [03:28] cclausen: Hey, what's the first thing that's normally displayed when you boot Ubuntu server? [03:28] I also edited /etc/default/grub and enabled the GRUB_TERMINAL=console and ran update-grub [03:28] d6chung: I now get 3 2 1 0 count down b/c I told grub to do that [03:29] How about when the boot is complete? What's displayed after all that? [03:29] scar: not sure, I want to see the kernel messages at boot myself [03:29] d6chung: I just get a login prompt once it is booted [03:30] In text mode? [03:30] yep [03:30] told kernel to use nosplash nofb nomodeset and that seemed to fix the stupid fbconsole [03:30] I'm not sure who though adding a graphical console to a server OS was a good idea, but someone needs to fix this [03:32] cclausen: Okay, will try that, thanks. [03:33] I'm not even sure where to file that as a bug [03:34] anyone have time to help me troubleshoot some networking? [03:34] storrgie: sure [03:34] ever use kvm? [03:34] oh no, not again... [03:34] someone had crazy problems last night with that [03:34] trying to do what? [03:35] whats the command to get the desktop again sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop ?? correct? [03:35] The package libapache2-mod-fastcgi disappeared - what do I need to do to use fcgi? (there is libapache2-mod-fcgid, which I guess is very similar) [03:35] had bridge and 3 other virtual interfaces [03:35] ahhh [03:35] yeah [03:35] dominicdinada: yeah. that should work [03:35] im trying to get a bridge to work [03:35] ok thanks [03:35] dominicdinada: yes [03:35] if you know of an easy route that wont make me die [03:35] then I would love you [03:35] mikelifeguard: does mod-fcgid work for you instead? (I realize its not the same thing) [03:36] I'm not sure yet [03:36] mikelifeguard: I'll warn that I'm having some problems with fcgid in lucid, but I'm not sure if that is an fcgid problem or a php5 problem [03:37] cclausen: did the kvm guy ever get straitened out? [03:37] mikelifeguard: one of the apache config I use for fcgid is at: https://lsecure.admin.illinois.edu/~cclausen/apache/www-acdis [03:37] I'm using perl, actually [03:38] mikelifeguard: php5 wrapper is: https://lsecure.admin.illinois.edu/~cclausen/apache/php5 [03:39] mikelifeguard: Perl wrapper I use just execs. no other config needed [03:39] cclausen: I have some pastebin for you [03:39] in fact, only reason I have a wrapper is for suexec and file ownership [03:39] http://pastebin.com/EtjmqkAE [03:39] storrgie: ok, loking at it [03:39] yeah, I don't need that :) [03:39] not picking up a DNS? [03:39] err [03:40] gateway? [03:40] storrgie: you seem to have only internal connections [03:40] yes... [03:40] are you behind a router? [03:40] yep [03:40] storrgie: what is the router's IP? [03:40] hm, "It is a binary compatibility alternative to Apache module mod_fastcgi." sounds promising [03:40] storrgie: can you ping the router? [03:40] but I still wonder where mod_fastcgi went [03:40] cclausen: yes i can [03:40] 192.168.1.1 [03:40] tomato [03:40] wrt54gl [03:41] mikelifeguard: it works for me. serves a few web sites, although my production system is still running hardy. my test box seems to be freaking out since I upgraded though. keep getting out of memory errors, not sure why yet [03:41] storrgie: pastebin ip route [03:41] storrgie: you running lucid? [03:42] yes lucid [03:43] how do I print out iproute? [03:43] one moment [03:43] rebootingrouter [03:43] might drop [03:43] AHA! mod_fastcgi is in multiverse; fcgid is in universe [03:43] mikelifeguard: I see libapache2-mod-fastcgi in apt-cache search [03:44] mikelifeguard: did you try just installing it? [03:44] I don't have multiverse on that machine, apparently O_o [03:44] mikelifeguard: its in multiverse/web now [03:44] do you have that enabled in sources? [03:44] I will shortly [03:45] cclausen: ok back [03:45] iproute? [03:45] one thing confusing [03:45] on my router [03:46] storrgie: ip route ? or netstat -r [03:46] I see two ip addresses come up for the same mac [03:46] cclausen, GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 <-- is that right? [03:46] e.g. print your routing table somehow [03:46] scar: I just ignored that. the GRUB_TERMINAL=console is aboe that [03:46] storrgie: that is possible. that might be how the bridge works [03:47] nope [03:47] mind a PM? [03:47] storrgie: although if they are actually on the same subnet, that will cause problems [03:47] storrgie: I'd prefer to keep things in the channel [03:47] to help others [03:47] just for all my macs [03:47] sent it to you in PM [03:47] cclausen, yes but i want increased resolution [03:48] scar: oh, yeah, try increasing it then [03:48] scar: I tried some of those fixes... I would be careful you can corrupt grub and get a kernal panic [03:48] I couldnt get 1920x1200 to work [03:49] storrgie: I'm not sure that is a standard that can be supported by default. that is fairly high resolution [03:49] cclausen, that's what i've been doing! it won't go into 1024x768 tho.... if i push SHIFT before boot and enter the grub interface, it is in 1024x768 but as soon as i boot the kernel it goes back to whatever... 80 colums x 24 rows [03:49] err [03:49] that was for scar [03:50] storrgie: start basic troubleshooting which interfaces can communicate. do you have firewalls? If so, disable them [03:50] on my 9.10 desktop, setting that GRUB_GFXMODE is all it took to change the console resolution also [03:50] cclausen: no firewalls [03:51] it may be my router but here [03:51] I removed all static routes inside my router [03:51] storrgie: can you login to the router and access stuff? [03:51] yep [03:52] I am sysowner [03:52] i removed the static routes [03:52] and did a /etc/networking/interfaces restart [03:52] can you access the clients from the router? [03:52] now I have this [03:52] http://pastebin.com/NxWAFKFc [03:52] yea the router is tomato firmware (linux) [03:53] still no outbound [03:53] even though I got DHCP IPs [03:53] storrgie: try a traceroute and see where teh traffic stops [03:53] 50 and 51 [03:53] traceroute6? [03:53] that is ipv6 so probably not useful here [03:53] not sure what command you want me to run [03:53] tracepath? [03:53] you don;t have a traceroute command? [03:54] I'm in lucid 10.04 [03:54] i dont have a traceroute command [03:54] wow, I don;t either [03:54] yep [03:54] well, lets find one... [03:54] thats not been standard for a while [03:54] well [03:54] i dont have network... [03:54] so i cant install it [03:55] download the deb to your router [03:55] hey check PM [03:55] and copy it from there [03:55] sent you my 'tracepath' [03:55] storrgie: tracepath might work then [03:55] storrgie: looks like it gets to your router and your router isn't routing it. [03:55] I could specify my IP's manually in the interfaces [03:55] that may work [03:56] I just wanted to do it from the router [03:56] looks like a problem on the router [03:56] i'm talking to you through this router [03:56] from my laptop [03:56] and it wasnt a problem with 9.10 [03:56] run the same commadn from your laptop [03:57] does it work correctly from there? [03:57] hrm no [03:57] weird.... [03:57] but i can get internet and everything [03:57] well, that isn't a valid test method then [03:57] something is blocking ICMP, probably your router [03:57] i dont think I have ever had this issue [03:58] you need to be able to get the "TTL expired in transit" responces back from traceroute [03:58] or, could be your ISP [03:58] makes it very hard to debug without actual info... [03:58] I am using opendns [03:58] 208.67.222.222 [03:58] you know what [03:58] dns would have nothing to do with outbound connections [03:58] hrm [03:59] then how can my laptop get outbound [03:59] its dhcp [03:59] just like my server [03:59] and its also 10.04 [03:59] just like my server [03:59] storrgie: let teh command run longer [03:59] it just has ubuntu-desktop [03:59] maybe just a few hosts are clokcing ICMP [03:59] ok letting it run [03:59] also, IRC is TCP not ICMP traffic [03:59] what is icmp [04:00] !icmp [04:00] hmm... ok, I tried [04:00] I know what it is kind of [04:00] storrgie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Control_Message_Protocol [04:00] isnt it the protocol for asking dns record? [04:00] it is an internet protocol [04:00] has nothing to do with DNS [04:00] send another PM [04:01] looks... not good [04:01] Blah I couldnt get my wifi to work ah well [04:01] storrgie: can you access the desktop from your laptop? [04:01] cclausen, only way i have been able to increase resolution is by editing /etc/grub.d/00_header [04:01] both interfaces? 50 and 51 ? [04:01] scar: that seems reasonable if it works [04:02] cclausen: that is affirmative [04:02] both interfaces [04:02] can ssh in [04:02] cclausen, no we aren't supposed to edit that file ;) [04:02] storrgie: and from there back to your laptop? [04:02] scar: says who? [04:02] cclausen: yep i can ping back [04:02] no sshd on laptop [04:02] storrgie: ping is fine, ok [04:02] internal network is fine then [04:02] should i go kill my modem? [04:02] storrgie: your router can access all the boxes too? [04:03] checking [04:03] yes it can [04:03] pings them [04:03] storrgie: do you have a third macine you can test with? [04:03] i have more but i think were dealing with a router issue [04:03] or modem?! [04:03] try putting a third machine on the same IPs as the desktop (with the destop network unlugged) [04:03] multiple people on it right now using the internet [04:04] I;d say to use your laptop, but that might disconnect you from the channel [04:04] storrgie: ah, ok, well, no problem [04:04] what was uncommenting GRUB_TERMINAL=console for? [04:04] storrgie: are teh MACs in the router's allowed list? [04:04] yep [04:04] scar: enables text mode for grub. I wanted text mode to work myself and NOT the framebuffer graphic mode [04:04] all are [04:05] bbl [04:08] storrgie: pastebin output of route command so that we can see the routing table [04:09] so here is where we are at [04:10] pm [04:10] default route appears to go to the router... [04:10] looks good to me [04:10] yep [04:10] works now [04:10] but only 1 interface [04:10] I assume you have NAT enabled on the router and this system isn't blocked or anything? [04:10] what do you mean only one interface works? [04:11] i only brought one up [04:11] commented out eth1 [04:11] While upgrading my server from 9.10 to 10.04, postfix was unable to upgrade by itself, and the entire upgrade process seems to have halted. Is there any way to salvage this? (last bit of upgrade at http://pastebin.org/198862 ) [04:11] ah, ok [04:11] restarted with only eth0 left un-commented [04:11] so now it works [04:11] Or was postfix just the last package that was to be installed? [04:11] tracepath still goes poop [04:12] flatface: if you run apt-get upgrade, are there more packages available? [04:12] flatface: I think the upgrade process bailed on you in the middle... [04:12] not sure what is going on with traceroute..... [04:12] its going forever [04:12] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [04:12] 2 not fully installed or removed. [04:12] http://pastebin.com/qdZcEXHS [04:12] storrgie: yeah, that happens when people don't send ICMP back [04:12] checking what these two are [04:13] flatface: oh, that is promising. I'd move the edited file out of the way, let the process continue and then trya and re-add your customizations [04:13] Ah, great. Thanks [04:13] storrgie: can you run a tracepath / traceroute from teh router itself? [04:14] lemme see [04:14] just postfix and postfix-pcre are the missing ones [04:14] storrgie: try makcing the 2nd interface NOT dhcp. assign the .3 IP only DO NOT give it a gateway [04:15] ok [04:15] on router [04:15] doing traceroute [04:15] same thing as the laptop [04:15] every hop is *** [04:15]