[00:07] <baerj> honk
[01:06] <terwilliger> honk
[01:17] <terwilliger> polite re honk
[01:32] <pizzapanther> anyone else having issues with ubuntu one ?
[01:58] <helpme> for the life of me i cannot figure out how to add my ubuntu 10.04 laptop to my already exsisting ubuntu one account
[02:00] <helpme> can anyone explain how to add a new computer to an account?
[03:46] <donri> I'm not able to get One to stop syncing a directory.
[03:46] <donri> The menu item is disabled.
[03:53] <duanedesign> donri: hello
[03:54] <duanedesign> donri: from the Terminal the command : u1sdtool --list-folders
[03:55] <duanedesign> will show you your User Designated Folders
[03:56] <donri> OK now I can't delete it from One though.
[03:57] <donri> On the website.
[03:57] <duanedesign> donri: is it grey
[03:57] <donri> No; if I click "More" I only get a Share option.
[03:58] <donri> I could delete files in that directory, but not the directory itself.
[03:58] <duanedesign> donri: ok i see
[03:59] <duanedesign> duanedesign: does it still show up in --list-folders?
[03:59] <donri> And --list-folders still list it only subscribed= isn't True.
[03:59] <donri> Yea.
[04:00] <donri> --delete-folder? Will that remove it locally?
[04:00] <brax> How do I sync my files?
[04:01] <duanedesign> brax: were you able to add your computer?
[04:01] <brax> Yep.
[04:02] <brax> gotta go sorry
[04:02] <duanedesign> donri: i am trying --delete-folder
[04:02] <donri> Me too. It's just sitting there though.
[04:03] <duanedesign> donri: yeah the service is really hammered still from the release
[04:07] <donri> That worked.
[04:07] <duanedesign> donri: ok great
[06:02] <skandl> hello
[06:02] <skandl> anyone there?
[07:36] <elzapp> Strange... why does Rhythmbox move one desktop to the right each time I create a new playlist?
[08:19] <Treenaks> My syncdaemon seems to be in a "connect" -> "try again" loop. Is U1 overloaded?
[08:29] <kermiac> Treenaks: yes, unfortunately due to the increase in users with the release of Lucid. Rest assured the U1 team is working on it :)
[08:29] <kermiac> Treenaks: are you using Lucid?
[08:30] <Treenaks> yes
[08:31] <kermiac> to workaround the try again loop you can run: killall ubuntuone-login && killall ubuntuone-syncdaemon from a terminal window, then open u1 from either the memenu of system-preferences-u1
[08:32] <kermiac> but unfortunately syncing is still slow
[08:32] <Treenaks> It's been retrying a connect to fs-1.one.ubuntu.com:443 for a while now
[08:33] <elzapp> And it's also still reconnecting inbetween each upload ( #571142 )
[08:33] <Treenaks> hey, it got through \o/
[08:34] <elzapp> Hm... I thought ubottu would give the url to the bug
[08:34] <elzapp> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/571142
[08:35] <elzapp> In four days I've synced 300files, out of a content queue of 1200 :/
[08:35] <kermiac> ah, yes - I'm subscribed to 571142
[09:27] <Moe> And honk
[09:28] <Moe> Hey everyone .. just wanted to let you know syncing has become much more reliable as of this morning
[09:29] <Moe> Also, I was wondering if anyone could provide me with a sneak peak at the Mac client for UbuntuOne .. and I don't mean a software package of sorts .. just a screenshot or maybe some more information regarding how well the client integrates with OSX
[09:37] <pricorp> On 10.04, I cannot sync file. Anyone having a fix ?
[11:50] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[11:51] <mkarnicki> hi
[11:52] <elzapp> hi
[11:54] <rye> hi
[11:58] <duanedesign> Moe said this morning things seem to be improving. Anyone else had better luck syncing this morning?
[12:01] <rye> duanedesign, no
[12:02] <rye> duanedesign, but today will be an interesting day since the team will work on making it all working again.
[12:27] <psypher246> rye: hello
[12:28] <elzapp> duanedesign: aven't looked at the logs today
[12:29] <elzapp> duanedesign: still having bug #571142
[12:36] <brax> How do I sync my files to ubuntu one?
[12:36] <brax> I've already said that I want to by choosing it in the context menu in nautilus, but they haven't been uploaded yet.
[12:37] <brax> Hello?
[12:37] <elzapp> brax: you can check its status by executing "u1sdtool -s" in a console
[12:38] <elzapp> other than that... the only thing you can do is to sit and wait. Syncing is very slow these days
[12:38] <brax> Ah. Okay.
[12:39] <elzapp> you can also check if your files is in the upload queue, by executing "u1sdtool --waiting-content"
[12:46] <fightling> Hi - I lost most of my contact information in my iphone after using the ubuntu one apple iphone sync tool. contacts seem ok at ubuntu one. Is there an issue about that behavior?
[12:52] <duanedesign> rye: i am making bug 573800 the master for the 'failed with the error: TRY_AGAIN' issue.
[13:04] <beatpanic> honk
[13:06] <beatpanic> it is the right place for the ubuntu one store? I'm unable to buy some stuff, it is stuck to: "Connecting you to the Ubuntu One Music Store... " I don't know if it is a problem of this network where I am
[13:06] <beatpanic> thanks :)
[13:06] <beatpanic> music store
[13:06] <elzapp> beatpanic: try restarting Rhythmbox
[13:07] <beatpanic> elzapp, ok
[13:07] <elzapp> (by rightclicking the icon in the notification area and close it from there)
[13:07] <beatpanic> ok now it seems to work
[13:08] <elzapp> beatpanic: You're probably affected by this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libubuntuone/+bug/570672
[13:10] <beatpanic> elzapp, ok, now it says Queued and I was billed -- it's the first time that I make a payment to ubuntu store :) should I wait for Queued I suppose
[13:12] <elzapp> beatpanic: since the syncing is quite buggy these days, you might want to log into http://one.ubuntu.com and download your new tracks from there
[13:12] <beatpanic> elzapp, ok
[13:12] <beatpanic> elzapp, thanks
[13:14] <beatpanic> elzapp, I'm happy that the purchased music is in the cloud at leas :)
[13:14] <beatpanic> least
[13:50] <ThomasJackstaedt> Hey
[13:51] <ThomasJackstaedt> since i updated to 10.04 ubuntu one doesn't sync to my laptop
[13:51] <ThomasJackstaedt> my desktop does work
[13:52] <ThomasJackstaedt> tried delete and add the laptop
[13:52] <ThomasJackstaedt> but doesn'T help
[13:53] <ThomasJackstaedt> are there any server problems ?
[13:53] <pricorp> Same issue. So far nobody could help...
[13:54] <ThomasJackstaedt> k
[13:54] <ThomasJackstaedt> anybody else ?
[13:55] <elzapp> ThomasJackstaedt: You're probably affected by bug #573800
[13:57] <ThomasJackstaedt> ok
[13:57] <ThomasJackstaedt> thanks
[14:04] <psypher246> rye: hello u tere?
[14:47] <rye> short summary - the team is now making a plan to synchronize all activity to make service update as smooth as possible
[14:57] <psypher246> rye: hello!
[14:57] <rye> psypher246, hi!
[14:58] <psypher246> rye: quick question, whats this sync and publsih to ubuntuone i find on right click in nautilus
[14:58]  * rye needs to update the title with something like "The system is now under maintenance...:
[14:58] <duanedesign> some positive feedback i thought the team would enjoy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9226154
[14:59] <rye> psypher246, "Sync on Ubuntu One" - will add the folder as a User Designated Folders and it will be synced to Ubuntu One additionally to ~/Ubuntu\ One - I have my ~/Documents/ in Ubuntu One this way
[14:59] <psypher246> so instead of me copying my documents to u1 and then softlinking it back?
[14:59] <rye> psypher246, publish to ubuntuone allows you to publish the file online, with url something like http://ubuntuone.com/abcdef
[15:00] <rye> psypher246, exactly
[15:00] <psypher246> rye: freiggen AWESOME!
[15:01] <psypher246> hopefully one day it can incorporate encryption as well, only thing that worries me bout cloud storage
[15:02] <kklimonda> rye: can I have some folder synced to ubuntu one but not synced from u1 to other clients?
[15:02] <rye> psypher246, once we back up i will check how ~/.Private works with Ubuntu One
[15:02] <kklimonda> rye: for example I don't want to throw all my music into small netbook disk but I'd like to keep music backed up in da cloud ;)
[15:03] <psypher246> rye: cool thanks, yeah i got most of my stuff in there and softlinked back to their original location. don't like full disk encryption and it's it's possible to decrypt a full disc
[15:04] <psypher246> kklimonda: yeah i would liek t that too
[15:04] <rye> kklimonda, hm... folder subscription configuration per-client?.. hmmm
[15:06] <psypher246> rye, yeah cos it would be cool having all things sycedn to the cloud but for devics like netbook only having a few things sync back down to it, with the rest accessible via u1
[15:07] <psypher246> rye: good idea would to be able to individaully say which files u want to download. so let the new client download the list of syncable files but have a diffrent icon to it, then if u want that file to be prestn on the client you right click and say sync
[15:08] <psypher246> onces it's sycned you can have a diffrent icon to show it's local and not just in the cloud
[15:08] <psypher246> can do the same with folders etc
[15:09] <rye> psypher246, i am not really sure about the individual files, but i believe it is doable for the folders
[15:09] <psypher246> rye: thats also fine i guess
[15:09] <rye> as per symlink-to-cloud - this is interesting
[15:10] <psypher246> rye: u mean the encrypted private folder?
[15:10] <rye> psypher246, i.e. User Designated Folders, i.e. I want Documents on my netbook, but i don't need Music there
[15:10] <psypher246> rye: yeah exactly
[15:10] <rye> psypher246, no, I mean the file that is not downloaded locally, but only placeholder is there.
[15:11] <psypher246> oh
[15:11] <psypher246> but foldeers is fine too
[15:11] <psypher246> rye: one step closer to a unified desktop across all devices, awesome :)
[15:12] <psypher246> rye: so my client uploaded a few more files today, but i see you mentioned things aren't right on the servers
[16:16] <mandel> rodrigo_, ping
[16:16] <rodrigo_> hey mandel, was just looking for you :)
[16:16] <rodrigo_> good syncing! :D
[16:17] <mandel> hehe yes, I just got back from work, bloddy traffic
[16:17] <mandel> :P
[16:17] <rodrigo_> mandel, I'm pushing the branch with the mono bindings, for you to look at it
[16:17] <mandel> great, are those in lp or git?
[16:17] <rodrigo_> lp
[16:18] <rodrigo_> let me finish the push, it takes ages because trunk is in bzr 1.1 format, and the branches are in 2a format
[16:18] <rodrigo_> so it pushes the whole branch, not just changes
[16:18] <mandel> np
[16:18] <mandel> I'll take a look at those, I think the best thing for mono would be to use the glib backend and and some nice glue to it
[16:18] <rodrigo_> mandel, haven't seen adiroiban around, so we'll have to leave the vala stuff for later
[16:19] <rodrigo_> mandel, but since you found his branch (right?), I guess you can continue his work from there?
[16:19] <rodrigo_> mandel, yes
[16:19] <mandel> rodrigo_, I saw the bindings he created, they are very standard ones so they should not be a problem
[16:19] <rodrigo_> mandel, my branch only binds couchdb-glib, I was trying to add desktopcouch-glib, but failed miserably
[16:20] <rodrigo_> so if you know about mono's gapi, all yours :D
[16:20] <rodrigo_> cool
[16:20] <mandel> rodrigo_, I'll write some code using the vala ones to see if they need changes
[16:20] <rodrigo_> cool
[16:20] <mandel> I do... 'll take a look at the mono stuff first, then I'll move to vala
[16:21] <mandel> as long as the gmcs does not chrash again.. we have 2.4 in ubuntu and there is a major bug when compiling code with lots of casting :(
[16:21] <rodrigo_> oh
[16:21] <rodrigo_> seems to compile ok for me
[16:22] <rodrigo_> mandel, the branch is lp:~rodrigo-moya/couchdb-glib/mono-bindings , when it finishes the push
[16:22] <mandel> if the code is simple there is no problem, but when you starts with generics and casting.. se va  a la mierda :P
[16:22] <rodrigo_> :)
[16:22] <Terwilliger> honk
[16:23] <Terwilliger> temporary un-honk while I read
[16:23] <mandel> rodrigo_, ping me when is ready, I need to get a coffee
[16:24] <rodrigo_> mandel, yeah, get a couple, it takes ages :(
[16:24] <rodrigo_> mandel, I guess I should just use git for this kind of (development) branches
[16:25] <Terwilliger> permanent un-honk. I see you're having server scaling problems.
[16:30] <rodrigo_> mandel, done, the branch should be up now
[16:31] <mandel> rodrigo_, I'll take a look right away
[16:32] <mandel> rodrigo_, I'll like to get the mono asap so that we can hack on f-spot :P
[16:32] <rodrigo_> mandel, I haven't really written any test to see if it works, just made sure it generated the .cs files and compiled
[16:32] <rodrigo_> oh, cool, on f-spot! what are you doing there?
[16:33] <mandel> rodrigo_, first thing, you know that you can add tags for people, well first thing, autocomplete with contacts
[16:33] <mandel> if that goes ok, I'll move to do some fun stuff with gwibber too
[16:33] <rodrigo_> cool
[16:33] <mandel> I mean f-spot + gwibber
[16:37] <rodrigo_> mandel, like sending photos to facebook/twitter/* ?
[16:37] <ivan_> does ubuntu one filesync work with windows?
[16:38] <mandel> rodrigo_, yes
[16:38] <rodrigo_> mandel, cool
[16:38] <rodrigo_> ivan_, not yet
[16:38] <rodrigo_> ivan_, on windows, you can use the web UI
[16:39] <ivan_> gracias rodrigo
[16:43] <rodrigo_> de nada ivan_
[16:46] <mandel> rodrigo_, which param do I have to pass to build the mono bindings?
[16:47] <rodrigo_> mandel, none, you need to have gapi and gmcs packages installed
[16:47] <rodrigo_> gtk-sharp2-gapi and mono-gmcs
[16:47] <rodrigo_> see the configure's output, it should tell you if it found them or not
[16:48] <mandel> he, so you meant that when you asked me if I knew gapi, ok, no problem
[16:48] <mandel> I misunderstood you
[16:48] <rodrigo_> well, I meant if you knew it, you should add bindings for desktopcouch-glib
[16:48] <imbrandon> rodrigo_: you maintain the packages for most of ubuntuone stuff in ubuntu correct ?
[16:48] <rodrigo_> I think it's just adding the dir to couchdb-glib.sources
[16:49] <rodrigo_> imbrandon, well, had permissions for some of them, not all of them yet, waiting for final voting
[16:49] <imbrandon> rodrigo_: right i rember the meeting ( same one i had my core-dev renewal in ), ok got a question for ya
[16:50] <imbrandon> rodrigo_: btw if you need a sponsor in the meantime while waiting on them just poke me, i'd be happy to
[16:50] <rodrigo_> imbrandon, ok, cool
[16:50] <imbrandon> anyhow my question is , other than running ubuntu i run squeeze and sid on a few machines here
[16:50] <imbrandon> for my debian packages i look after
[16:51] <imbrandon> and i sorely miss the ubuntuone music store , hehe sooo i was on a personal mission to port the needed packages to debian
[16:51] <imbrandon> then i got to thinking , ummm want me to do it /  help "officialy" ?
[16:51] <rodrigo_> imbrandon, ah, you need all of the u1 stuff, ubuntuone-client, libubuntuone and rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store
[16:52] <imbrandon> yup, i noticed
[16:52] <imbrandon> already started it a bit
[16:52] <rodrigo_> imbrandon, shouldn't the debian/ stuff for those packages almost work straight away for debian?
[16:52] <imbrandon> rodrigo_: yea it should, almost 100% , its just a matter of someone taking the time to test and "maintain" them in debian
[16:53] <imbrandon> and i'm willing to do so as long as i'm not stepping on toes etc
[16:53] <rodrigo_> imbrandon, ah, ok
[16:53] <rodrigo_> imbrandon, I don't know of anyone doing that, so go ahead :)
[16:53] <rodrigo_> dobey, do you know?
[16:54] <imbrandon> okies sounds good to me /me adds #ubuntuone to his irssi autojoin
[16:54] <rodrigo_> cool
[16:55] <imbrandon> is there a bzr branch on LP with the raw stuff , or is it just whats in the repos
[16:55] <rodrigo_> imbrandon, if they work straight away, I think you'd just need to upload to debian the packages we do
[16:55] <imbrandon> e.g. what do i put for "upstream"
[16:55] <rodrigo_> yes, there are bzr branches
[16:55] <rodrigo_> ah, for the code, or for the package branch, you mean?
[16:56] <imbrandon> rodrigo_: yea i'm just gonna upload your packages if they work right out with no changes, witch they /should/
[16:56] <imbrandon> might have to do a little version number mageling to keep the version below ubuntu but if yall followed normal -0ubutnuX versioning it would be easy
[16:56] <rodrigo_> the code is in lp:ubuntuone-client, lp:libubuntuone and lp:rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store
[16:56] <rodrigo_> yes, we do that for all packages afaik
[16:57] <imbrandon> yea i think there is one python lib at a lower level too that isnt in sid, i'll also grab it
[16:57] <imbrandon> that libubuntuone uses
[16:57] <rodrigo_> ah, maybe
[16:57] <rodrigo_> hmm, which one?
[16:57] <imbrandon> umm lemme check, i looked at all this last night , sleopt since then, lol
[16:57] <rodrigo_> :)
[17:00] <imbrandon> python-protobuf (>= 2.0.3-0ubuntu1) , used by python-ubuntuone-storageprotocal
[17:00] <imbrandon> but iirc thats the only one
[17:01] <imbrandon> i think once the "base" stack is done any of the u1 stuff should be able to be ported easy, not just the u1 music store, but thats what i really want , cant do without my u1 music ;)
[17:01] <imbrandon> like the contact sync and such
[17:04] <rodrigo_> imbrandon, ah, right, you need ubuntuone-storage-protocol also
[17:05] <imbrandon> yup ;)
[17:07] <mandel> rodrigo_, do u know where do I get the gir for libjson?
[17:09] <rodrigo_> mandel, hmm, pass --disable-introspection to ./autogen.sh, not sure where that is
[17:09] <rodrigo_> mandel, I just get it when compiling stuff from gnome's git, so I guess it's not packaged
[17:11] <mandel> rodrigo_, indeed, there are no packages.. and I cant be bodered to compile that now :P
[17:12] <rodrigo_> mandel, yeah, --disable-introspection is what you want :D
[17:12] <mandel> rodrigo_, got it, cheers, I'll see what I can do with the mono bindings
[17:13] <mandel> ls
[17:14] <mandel> hehe wrong window :P
[17:14] <rye> mandel, . .. .bashrc .bash_profile
[17:15] <rodrigo_> :)
[17:15] <mandel> rye, hehe but I did not do -la :P
[17:16] <hphde> I need to honk for help? Every channel another culture 8)
[17:16] <rye> mandel, true. But how about alias ls='ls -a' ?
[17:16] <rye> hphde, hi!
[17:17] <mandel> rye, I should, but I have to much crap in ~ so I prefer to be explicit
[17:17] <rye> hphde, if your question is about file sync then the issue with connecting is known and the team is working on it
[17:20] <hphde1> Ah, this is much better
[17:22] <hphde1> So, ok -about my problem: Got a u1 account, tried to sync with one machine, didn't work in 2009 and didn't check again until 10.04. With 10.04 it didn't work so I added another account and tried again with now three 10.04 machines and a 9.10 one - no luck whatsoever. It just creates folders and empty files sometimes.
[17:23] <hphde1> I tried the "Ubuntu One" folder and also shared other folders - nada
[17:25] <hphde1> Should I honk again? Using the webpage again? ;-)
[17:28] <mandel> rodrigo_, we should put somewhere the dependency to glib-sharp-2.0, I wasted a bit of time on that (stupid me by the way)
[17:29] <rodrigo_> mandel, oh, right
[17:30] <mandel> rodrigo_, I've notice that there is no binding for the desktopcouch specifics, am I wrong?
[17:30] <rodrigo_> mandel, you are right, that's what's missing for the 'you know gapi?" part :D
[17:30] <rye> hphde1, currently the file sync service is not working properly so anything I would start suggesting here would start making sense only when the server-side is updated
[17:31] <hphde1> ok
[17:31] <mandel> rodrigo_, hahaha ok, got it, I'll get to i
[17:31] <mandel> t
[17:38] <mandel> rodrigo_, do you want the desktopcouc gapi sources file to be in a diff one or in the same as the one you currently use, you can create diff dlls by adding another node in the same file
[17:39] <rodrigo_> I guess we should have a desktopcouch-glib-sharp lib, yes
[17:39] <rodrigo_> or well, not sure
[17:39] <mandel> we can do that, but specify the parsing of both libs in the same file
[17:41] <mandel> rodrigo_, like <api filename="couch... and in the same sources file <api filena="desktop
[17:41] <dobey> rodrigo_: do i know what?
[17:41] <rodrigo_> dobey, I forgot, let me see the log
[17:41] <rodrigo_> mandel, ok
[17:42] <rodrigo_> dobey, ah, if you know of someone packaging the u1 stuff for debian?
[17:43] <dobey> not specifically, no
[17:50] <rodrigo_> imbrandon, ok, nobody seems to be working on debian packages, so go ahead :)
[17:50] <imbrandon> rodrigo_: great, already got %50 of it done ;)
[17:51] <rodrigo_> :)
[17:51] <rodrigo_> mandel, we already have vala bindings, via the introspection stuff!! -> http://live.gnome.org/GObjectIntrospection/Users
[17:51] <rodrigo_> mandel, just found out, I thought we needed to generate them from the introspection stuff
[17:52] <rodrigo_> mandel, but not, those languages just read the .typelib's we have for introspection at execution time
[17:53] <mandel> rodrigo_, no, that is wahy I said in the email that the vala ones are a piece of cake :D
[17:54] <mandel> rodrigo_, we just need to keep record of this things so that people can find it easily
[17:54] <rodrigo_> mandel, yes
[17:54] <rodrigo_> I'll add it to the freedesktop page wiki
[17:56] <mandel> rodrigo_, great! we really need to keep track of this, otherwhise people will think they have to do all the ahrd work and wont add support to desktopcouch, which would be a miss opportunity
[17:56] <rodrigo_> added to http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktopcouch
[17:58] <rodrigo_> mandel, mono still misses the introspection support, so we still want the mono bindings for now
[17:59] <mandel> rodrigo_, I think I'm nearly done with that
[17:59] <rodrigo_> cool
[18:16] <mattgriffin> rye: i updated the status page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status by adding a notice about only seeing empty folders
[18:16] <rye> mattgriffin, by the way, tomboy note syncing is not affected by couchdb replication
[18:18] <mattgriffin> rye: gotcha. i'll update
[18:21] <rye> mattgriffin, thanks
[18:23] <mandel> rodrigo_, I'm nearly done, but I do not like the result, I can get it in a single dll, just asked at #mono and miguel just told me to go to the mailing list, ouch!
[18:23] <mandel> rodrigo_, I guess is a hard one :P
[18:24] <NielsE> whoah, new webinterface :-)
[18:25] <NielsE> I like :)
[18:26] <NielsE> can someone help me to get my ubuntuone getting synced with the files that are online?
[18:26] <NielsE> the log is filled with this: <State: 'READY'  (queues IDLE  connection 'Not User With Network')>
[18:28] <NielsE> http://paste.ubuntu.com/427137/
[18:34] <mandel> NielsE, I think rye can help you, ping rye
[18:35] <NielsE> ok thanks
[18:35] <rye> NielsE, pong, I am afraid that at the moment the syncdaemon can not get a persistent connection - there is an ongoing work performed to bring the service back to production status - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status has more info about affected parts
[18:36] <NielsE> rye: ah oke
[18:36] <NielsE> rye: I'll wait some more then, for some reason ubuntuone has never worked really well for me, except for the webinterface
[18:37] <NielsE> rye: I'll keep my eye on the service page :)
[18:38] <rye> NielsE, frankly speaking nearly all issues with the client that could afect file syncing (i.e. sudden crashes, failure to reconnect) were fixed
[18:39] <rye> but immediate the raise of the popularity caused extreme service load. The syncing works, but it works too slow so sometimes the server drops the connection to the client.
[18:39]  * rye looks at the sentence...
[18:39] <NielsE> rye: hmm okay, somehow I allways got the [!
[18:40] <mandel> rodrigo_, ping
[18:40] <rye> The spike of popularity caused extreme service load
[18:40] <NielsE> [!] icons
[18:40] <NielsE> rye: popularity is a good thing, let's hope they'll stick with it :-)
[18:41] <rye> NielsE, exactly, the karmic version was not really good when something unexpected happened to the network or connection or hibernate/resume.  - these issues were fixed
[18:41] <rye> I don't like to say 'believe me, it really works' but this is pretty much all I can do for now :(
[18:42] <NielsE> I also ran the alpha's and beta's, which did'nt work really well for me too, but I'll do some testing again when the status page is updated
[18:46] <NielsE> also wanted to say that I like the new webinterface ;-)
[18:47] <imbrandon> rodrigo_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/427147/ ideas?
[18:47] <imbrandon> ( thats on squeeze )
[18:49] <abe3k> hello guys
[18:51] <NielsE> hi
[18:51] <rodrigo_> mandel, pong
[18:51] <abe3k> I've got my self a fresh ubuntu 10.04 installation, and I tried to make ubuntuone work but without luck, I already have an ubuntuone account made before 10.04 and I want to sync with my files over there, the only thing I'm getting is "Synchronization in progress" in the Ubuntu One Preferences application and no trace of any files in the Ubuntu One folder.
[18:52] <rye> imbrandon, the MODAL thing is bug #567223
[18:52] <rodrigo_> imbrandon, that's fixed, not sure if released yet. dobey -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/427147/
[18:52] <dobey> it's in -proposed
[18:53] <abe3k> what should I do ?
[18:53] <dobey> imbrandon: did you disable file sync also?
[18:53] <dobey> abe3k: what does u1sdtool -s say?
[18:54] <abe3k> dobey, http://pastebin.com/g7w9WnRF
[18:54] <dobey> huh
[18:54] <abe3k> dobey, the preferences application is lying eh ?
[18:55] <mandel> rodrigo_, I know understnad your pain to create the bindings.. I'm getting a stupid error with the session...
[18:55] <rodrigo_> mandel, what error?
[18:55] <dobey> abe3k: somewhat i guess
[18:55] <mandel> rodrigo_, Session.cs(14,55): error CS1729: The type `object' does not contain a constructor that takes `1' arguments
[18:55] <dobey> not sure why, it says is_connected False
[18:55] <dobey> abe3k: try u2sdtool -c to reconnect it
[18:56] <mandel> rodrigo_, the problem is that we could generate the binding but we need to tell pkg-config where to find libcouchdb
[18:56] <rodrigo_> mandel, ah, when compiling the .dll I guess?
[18:56] <mandel> rodrigo_, yep
[18:56] <rodrigo_> mandel, hmm, ok
[18:57] <abe3k> dobey, it seems to be stuck in the "State: AUTHENTICATE"
[18:57] <mandel> rodrigo_, http://pastebin.com/7CHBQmfd
[18:58] <dobey> abe3k: it'll probably take a few seconds to authenticate
[18:58] <dobey> abe3k: shouldn't get stuck there
[18:59] <abe3k> dobey, it disconnects from there and retries again
[18:59] <abe3k> dobey, http://pastebin.com/NK8wq9zw
[18:59] <mandel> rodrigo_, I do not know why it generates the constructor of Session calling the base constructor with  "(IntPtr.Zero)" which obviously is wrong in .Net when the parent class is object
[18:59] <rodrigo_> hmm
[19:00] <abe3k> dobey, there is an exclamation mark on the ubuntu one folder
[19:00] <rodrigo_> mandel, ah, I guess it compiles for me because I have an installed libcouchdb-glib?
[19:01] <rodrigo_> mandel, [DllImport("couchdb-glib-sharp.dll")]
[19:01] <rodrigo_>                 static extern IntPtr couchdb_session_get_uri(IntPtr raw);
[19:01] <abe3k> dobey, any Idea on what is going on ?
[19:01] <rodrigo_> shouldn't it be importing from libcouchdb-glib.so?
[19:02] <dobey> abe3k: can you pastebin the lines from ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log from when it enters the AUTHENTICATE state to when it goes back to DISCONNECTED or WAITING (or whatever it is that it goes to)? :)
[19:02] <abe3k> dobey, sure
[19:02] <mandel> rodrigo_, if you are compiling just the couchdb dll there are no issues, the problem is when you tell gapi to generate a desktopcouch dll. Since it depends on the previous one, you have to tell gapi2-codegen where to find it
[19:02] <rodrigo_> mandel, ah, ok
[19:02] <rodrigo_> mandel, if so, let's not complicate things, put all on the same lib
[19:03] <mandel> rodrigo_, is kind of ugly.. and know it is something personal between gapi2-codegen and me
[19:03] <rodrigo_> mandel, but heh, adding a <dir> in .sources didn't work for me
[19:03] <rodrigo_> mandel, ah, ok then :D
[19:03] <rodrigo_> mandel, need to go out for a bit, bbl
[19:03] <mandel> rodrigo_, just adding the dir will not do the trick, is harder than that
[19:04] <rodrigo_> I guess, it didn't work for me
[19:04] <mandel> rodrigo_, catch u later, a2
[19:04] <rodrigo_> ok, bbl
[19:04] <abe3k> dobey, http://pastebin.com/YbEJk2MW
[19:06] <dobey> abe3k: thanks
[19:06] <abe3k> dobey, no problem
[19:09] <abe3k> dobey, it keeps on repeating those same messages again and again
[19:09] <dobey> abe3k: yeah
[19:11] <abe3k> dobey: I've removed all of my other machines from the ubuntuone account, I only have my computer on my account now
[19:15] <dobey> abe3k: if you open preferences, it shows your machines and account info all correctly?
[19:16] <abe3k> dobey, hmmm, the only thing I notice is that the Name fields reads "Name: None ABE3K" I don't think that is right
[19:17] <abe3k> dobey, that is in the Account tab
[19:17] <shiva> hello
[19:17] <shiva> i was having problems with
[19:18] <shiva> "adding my computer" to ubuntu one
[19:18] <dobey> abe3k: ah, that is a result of the name you have specified in your lp account, which was read when you signed up for u1
[19:18] <shiva> i am getting the following error message
[19:18] <shiva> irefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:37052
[19:18] <shiva> can anyone help?
[19:18] <abe3k> dobey, is that causing the problem ?
[19:18] <dobey> abe3k: it looks like you are experiencing bug #573800
[19:18] <dobey> abe3k: no
[19:18] <dobey> shiva: are you using a proxy?
[19:18] <shiva> no
[19:20] <shiva> any help?
[19:21] <shiva>  ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log has no errors
[19:21] <dobey> shiva: can you pastebin the output of "ifconfig lo" please?
[19:21] <abe3k> dobey, Nice, those guys are having the same problem I'm having :)
[19:21] <dobey> abe3k: not nice, but yes :)
[19:21] <shiva> http://pastebin.com/xy1DPf2W
[19:22] <abe3k> dobey, you know what I mead hehe
[19:22] <abe3k> dobey, bad bug, but good that it is noticed :)
[19:22] <abe3k> dobey, can I do anything to help ?
[19:23] <dobey> abe3k: just be patient i guess. problem is that server is being overloaded with requests it seems. and it looks like other hackers are working on getting that fixed up
[19:24] <abe3k> dobey, cool
[19:24] <dobey> shiva: is ubuntuone-login running in your process list?
[19:24] <shiva> dobey: yes it is
[19:25] <abe3k> dobey, we had a bad hail storm today I wanted to show my cozens that storm
[19:25] <shiva> http://pastebin.com/spam.php?i=kVMSiHEs
[19:28] <dobey> shiva: what does "host localhost" say for you?
[19:29] <shiva> Host localhost not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[19:29] <dobey> shiva: what does "grep localhost /etc/hosts" say?
[19:30] <shiva> ssaha	localhost.localdomain	localhost ::1     localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[19:31] <dobey> shiva: it looks like your system is misconfigured
[19:31] <shiva> what is the problem?
[19:31] <dobey> shiva: can you pastebin your /etc/hosts?
[19:32] <shiva> http://pastebin.com/RpyRVm02
[19:33] <dobey> shiva: it should look like this instead: http://pastebin.com/E54Qea3B
[19:34] <aluedeke> hi
[19:34] <aluedeke> i am still (since yesterday) issues while trying to sync with ubuntuone
[19:34] <shiva> dobey: what changes did you make?
[19:35] <aluedeke> i am still (since yesterday) facing issues while trying to sync with ubuntuone
[19:35] <abe3k> goodnight guys
[19:35] <dobey> shiva: removed the comment on the first line, and move the second line back to being on the first line, and removed the extra alias you had in for 127.0.0.1 also
[19:36] <aluedeke> does anybody experienced the same problems?
[19:36] <rye> aluedeke, yes, the server-side issue is still valid
[19:37] <aluedeke> @rye, hi any ideas when this issue wil be fixed?
[19:38] <shiva> dobey: http://pastebin.com/4GEeLL4c
[19:39] <shiva> still it does not work....i did restart the network after chaning the file
[19:39] <dobey> shiva: it's still broken yes
[19:39] <shiva> yes
[19:39] <shiva> same problem in firefox
[19:39] <dobey> you need to fix the file as i pointed out in the pastebin
[19:40] <shiva> i pasted it
[19:40] <shiva> i did change it
[19:40] <dobey> you chagned it, yes, but all you did was delete the first line
[19:41] <dobey> you didn't fix the problem
[19:41] <dobey> look at that, and the version i pastebinned
[19:41] <shiva> oh yes..wait...
[19:41] <dobey> and you will see the differences
[19:42] <shiva> http://pastebin.com/zxWsQqZQ
[19:42] <shiva> i did change it..but same old problem
[19:43] <dobey> shiva: now do killall -9 ubuntuone-preferences ubuntuone-login
[19:43] <dobey> shiva: then start ubuntu one again from the menu
[19:43] <dobey> oh no
[19:43] <dobey> you still haven't fixed it correctly
[19:43] <dobey> localhost must resolve to 127.0.0.1
[19:44] <shiva> yes i did it
[19:44] <shiva> 127.0.0.1
[19:44] <shiva> i mistyped it 127.0.1.1. before
[19:44] <shiva> :)
[19:45] <rye> aluedeke, checking with the team
[19:46] <aluedeke> @rye th for the information, will try it again in a week or so
[19:47] <shiva> dobey: thanks for the help..
[19:47] <shiva> now its working
[19:47] <rye> aluedeke, unfortunately only short-term ETA - api servers (the ones that handle file synchronizations) will be updated in 2 hours. That should make them faster.
[19:47] <shiva> appreciate it
[19:49] <aluedeke> @rye good to know, thx for the quick response
[19:52] <dobey> sure
[20:09] <mandel> rodrigo_, ping
[20:20] <barbara> I want to synchronize my Documents folder between two computers connected to the same ubuntuone account. How can I do this? Currently I have Documents shared on one of the computers and all data on ubuntuone
[20:25] <jackbakunin> hi guys
[20:29] <barbara> anyone?
[20:30] <dobey> barbara: in 10.04?
[20:30] <barbara> yes
[20:31] <dobey> barbara: right click on your Documents folder and choose "Synchronize on Ubuntu One" and set up ubuntu one on the other computers
[20:32] <barbara> dobey, then it will automatically sync between all computers? what about the documents already in Documents on other computers?
[20:32] <dobey> barbara: i believe they will just synchronize, or conflict, depending on whether or not they conflict :)
[20:33] <barbara> lol ok thx will give it a shot
[20:36] <peterih_> Hi there
[20:41] <peterih> Is Ubuntu One just down, or am I doing something wrong?
[20:41] <beuno> peterih, it's very very slow at the moment
[20:41] <beuno> what problem are you having?
[20:42] <peterih> frequent disconnects, and next to no traffic
[20:43] <beuno> peterih, yeah, we're working on adding more servers as well as fine-tuning them
[20:43] <beuno> we're a bit overwhelmed by the amount of traffic the Lucid release sent us
[20:43] <peterih> and my files are just having "uploading" status in the webinterface
[20:43] <peterih> fair enough
[20:45] <peterih> Are we talking hours, days or weeks?
[20:46] <beuno> peterih, between hours and days
[20:46] <beuno> hours if our current plan goes well
[20:46] <beuno> days if it fails terribly
[20:47] <dobey> as soon as we can get it done :)
[20:47] <peterih> :)
[20:47] <dobey> live process and all
[20:47] <peterih> great
[20:48] <leonelo> Can I use UbuntuOne with my server with no gnome or X installed ?/
[20:48] <peterih> Let me know if I can test something
[20:49] <beuno> peterih, will do, thanks, and apologies for the slowness
[20:50] <beuno> leonelo, I think it doesn't work headless at the moment due to it's dependency on seahorse
[20:50] <leonelo> beuno: thanks
[21:08] <peterih> Another curious thing I'm seing is copies of my files with an ".swx" extension?
[21:12] <rye> peterih, these are vim swap files
[21:13] <rye> peterih, you might be interested in file pattern blacklist - see /etc/xdg/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf for defaults of [__main__] ignore
[21:13] <peterih> rye, that makes sense
[21:14] <rye> peterih, here's my syncdaemon.conf (~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf) - http://paste.ubuntu.com/427219/
[21:15] <peterih> rye, when the service works again, I guess it will remove the swapfiles fast enough
[21:15] <rye> peterih, true, but sometimes it is better for these files not to sync at all
[21:15] <rye> hm, swx?
[21:16] <rye> swpx is known
[21:16] <peterih> these are swx
[21:18] <peterih> besides that, maybe a blacklist like that should be default in u1.
[21:27] <rye> peterih, it is default, I added the exception for openoffice only
[21:27] <dobey> there is a default ignore list, and swx is in it now (in revision control, but not in a published update yet)
[21:29] <peterih> Ah, ok. I haven't been digging in the files yet.
[21:36] <peterih> I've succesfully sync'ed 4K in half an hour :)
[21:38]  * rye is less lucky
[21:40] <rye> ok, the only thing left is to prevent duplicating the bug reports trying to mark them the duplicates of themselves...
[21:46] <imbrandon> does ubuntuone-client /really/ need python-apport, or will it just loose some pretty bug filing without it
[21:48] <rye> imbrandon, we used to have "Report a bug" entry in the applet. So far the only place apport is mentioned is in apport hook
[21:48] <imbrandon> k
[21:49] <imbrandon> just seeing if i /really/ needed it for the debian port
[21:49] <imbrandon> so the UI in the applet isnt even there yet ?
[21:49] <imbrandon> ( btw there is no 1.2.1 tarbal on the release page yet either , fyi ;P )
[21:49] <rye> imbrandon, ubuntuone-client does not depend on apport to function properly. Lucid lynx does not come with the applet
[21:50] <rye> ah, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS does not come with Ubuntu One applet, it was removed
[21:50] <imbrandon> yea i noticed the could icon gone on my lucid laptop
[21:50] <imbrandon> cloud*
[21:53] <imbrandon> so whats the sync daemon called? or what runs "all the time" to ensure files are synced ?
[21:53] <imbrandon> trying to verify this si all working
[21:56] <rye> imbrandon, the sync daemon is called syncdaemon - ubuntuone-syncdaemon is the process name
[21:56] <peterih> imbrandon, it's quite unstable. Even for Sid
[21:58] <imbrandon> peterih: heh yea i'm working no getting the packages in sid now ;)
[21:58] <dobey> imbrandon: eh?
[21:59] <dobey> imbrandon: 1.2.1 is certainly on the download page
[21:59] <imbrandon> dobey: hum i only noticed 1.2.0 a bit ago / me looks again
[21:59] <dobey> http://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/trunk/1.2.1/+download/ubuntuone-client-1.2.1.tar.gz
[22:00] <dobey> imbrandon: protocol is only 1.2.0 still though
[22:00] <imbrandon> dobey: my mistake, i was looking at the storage-protocol version
[22:00] <imbrandon> yea
[22:01] <imbrandon> ok i got everyting in the stack working i think upto the gui client
[22:01] <imbrandon> time to test some syncs
[22:01] <imbrandon> should this thing know about my email and such ?
[22:02] <imbrandon> http://ubuntuone.com/p/22S/
[22:02] <rye> imbrandon, ... which will be really slow since the servers are in process of upgrading right now
[22:02] <peterih> imbrandon, it's a bad time to test syncronization
[22:02] <imbrandon> no worries, my /real/ goal in all this is to get the music store working in sqeeze rythmbox, i'll just move to the next step
[22:03] <imbrandon> and veryify before i upload
[22:03] <imbrandon> :)
[22:03] <rye> imbrandon, the preferences should trigger ubuntuone-login process that should check for keyring item in gnome-keyring and fire the browser via xdg-open for authorization to happen
[22:04] <peterih> just authenticating is a challenge right now
[22:04] <imbrandon> it did
[22:04] <imbrandon> and it linked it to my computer
[22:04] <imbrandon> but then i get that screen
[22:04] <imbrandon> so i knows i'm free and how much space i;ve used
[22:04] <imbrandon> but it might not know my other details untill it syncs ?
[22:06] <dobey> imbrandon: it might just be slow
[22:06] <rye> hm, imbrandon - just to test - could you please restart ubuntuone-preferences ?
[22:06] <imbrandon> i keep getting a "moved perminately" error on startup of the gui too
[22:06] <dobey> imbrandon: it is hitting the server at a few different urls to get that info
[22:06] <windmill> Does the Musics store work?
[22:06] <dobey> imbrandon: hmm, what's giving you the 302?
[22:06] <windmill> I've just tried to buy a song and it has got stuck at "connecting to ubuntu one store..."
[22:07] <imbrandon> dobey: the cleint about my prefrenses
[22:07] <rye> dobey, /api/account/ works fast
[22:07] <dobey> imbrandon: but does the error say what url was moved permanently?
[22:08] <imbrandon> Failure: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon exited with status 1
[22:08] <imbrandon> ERROR:ubuntuone-preferences:[Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): <class 'dbus.exceptions.DBusException'>: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon exited with status 1
[22:08] <imbrandon> ]
[22:08] <imbrandon> ment to pastbin that , sorry
[22:08] <imbrandon> ERROR:ubuntuone-preferences:Moved Permanently
[22:08] <imbrandon> crap
[22:08] <imbrandon> thats from the console though if i start it up via the cli
[22:08] <rye> imbrandon, try running /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon directly - something is wrong right from the start
[22:08] <imbrandon> k
[22:08] <dobey> hmm
[22:09] <peterih> windmill, regular file sync doesn't work
[22:09] <imbrandon> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/427237/
[22:10] <windmill> peterih, so have I bought the song or not?
[22:10] <imbrandon> btw this is all from lucid rebuild packages , with the exceptrion of the -client is from -proposed
[22:11] <peterih> windmill, I don't know. Did you pay?
[22:11] <peterih> windmill, I don't know. Did you pay?
[22:11] <easyflier> anyone solved the ghost "uploading" file problem?
[22:11] <imbrandon> rye: re: pastbin do i need to pass it parms ?
[22:12] <windmill> peterih, Think so, but as I clicked go it stalled "Connecting you to the Ubuntu One Music Store..."
[22:12] <peterih> easyflier, what is the ghost problem?
[22:12] <rye> imbrandon, no, that's syntax error, which it is not, what's the python version you are running?
[22:12] <dobey> imbrandon: is this on py3k?
[22:12] <dobey> :)
[22:12] <rye> easyflier, once the sync issues are resolved the ghost files are cleaned up
[22:13] <imbrandon> python 2.5.5 ( squeeze default )
[22:13] <dobey> oh well
[22:13] <dobey> that would also do it
[22:13] <easyflier> non existent files in my sync folder that show on the website as uploading...  seems like constant disk access on my machine
[22:13] <dobey> imbrandon: is 2.6 not available there?
[22:14] <peterih> windmill, You probably have to wait and see.
[22:14] <imbrandon> dont think so, but u1 wasnt strongly deped against it so i dident check
[22:14] <imbrandon> one sec
[22:14] <easyflier> so it's a problem on their end with sync?
[22:14] <windmill> peterih, It's stopped for about 30 mins now
[22:15] <peterih> windmill, I can sync about 4K when it's running well
[22:15] <imbrandon> ahh yes it is, but it looks like py2.5 is the "default" in the path
[22:15] <imbrandon> dobey^^
[22:15] <peterih> windmill, in 30 minutes, that is
[22:15] <imbrandon> hum
[22:15] <dobey> imbrandon: ok. it needs 2.6
[22:15] <dobey> :)
[22:16] <dobey> what is squeeze? like ubuntu 8.04?
[22:16] <imbrandon> no its 10days behind sid
[22:16] <easyflier> peterih]  should I just delete my account and give it a day to cycle?
[22:17] <imbrandon> so its actualy newer than lucid
[22:17] <peterih> 10.04 is labeled both squeeze and sid
[22:17] <kklimonda> dobey: debian has had some issues with migrating to python2.6 so they are a bit behind
[22:18] <dobey> imbrandon: ah, minus python
[22:18] <imbrandon> so how can i force this to use 2.6 on systems that have both but 2.5 as the default, do i have to patch the #!/ ?
[22:18] <peterih> easyflier, don't take my advise. I'm just a humble user. I can only advise not to use U1 in production
[22:19] <imbrandon> dobey: yea ;)
[22:19] <easyflier> hehe  I'm a humble usaer also
[22:19] <dobey> imbrandon: does debian have the same python bits in the debian/control that ubuntu does?
[22:19] <imbrandon> dobey: you u1 or python its self
[22:19] <imbrandon> dobey: for*
[22:19] <easyflier> I think I'll uninstall delete the account and give it a whirl tomorrow
[22:20] <easyflier> my own fault I guess for enabling sync on an active download floder
[22:20] <imbrandon> dobey: so far the _only_ changes i have made to the package are to change the maintainer in debian/control and removed the python-apport dep from ubuntuone-client in debian/control
[22:20] <imbrandon> dobey: so essentialy the same
[22:21] <dobey> imbrandon: for any pytho module
[22:21] <imbrandon> dobey: it seems i have both python2.5 and 2.6 installed, it just chooses to use 2.5 by default ( i'm guessing via alternatives )
[22:21] <dobey> ok
[22:22] <dobey> imbrandon: one second
[22:22] <imbrandon> k
[22:24] <dobey> imbrandon: change "XS-Python-Version: >= 2.5" in debian/control to "XS-Python-Version: >= 2.6"
[22:24] <dobey> imbrandon: rebuild, install, and try again
[22:24] <imbrandon> k
[22:25] <imbrandon> back in ~5
[22:26] <dobey> i gotta go
[22:26] <dobey> later :)
[22:28] <imbrandon> dobey: later, ty for the help
[22:32] <easyflier> peterih]  well i reoved everything, cancelled the account and rebooted.  wait until tomorrow and try again
[22:33] <easyflier> reoved=removed
[22:34] <peterih> good luck
[22:34] <imbrandon> hum now when using python2.6,it cant import "from ubuntuone import clientdefs" ...
[22:34] <imbrandon> :(
[22:36] <easyflier> think I'll hang around in here and monitor the chat  will probably learn something useful
[22:37] <imbrandon> actualy no it works, was a typo
[22:44] <imbrandon> ok i dont see a way arround this other than patching the #!/ to use python2.6
[22:44] <imbrandon> thats unfortunate
[22:44] <rye> imbrandon, no way to switch to python2.6 with alternatives?
[22:45] <imbrandon> rye: sure, on my system, but what about when someone else installs it
[22:45] <rye> imbrandon, hm... true
[22:45] <imbrandon> btw forcing it to use python2.6 on my system works perfect now
[22:46] <imbrandon> so that is the issue
[22:46] <imbrandon> ( not that i dounted you all but you know ... heheh )
[22:46] <imbrandon> doubted*
[22:46] <imbrandon> wow if i could type today
[22:46] <peterih> hmm, I have a single 4K file left i Ubuntu One, but it reports 14.8 MB used...
[22:46] <rye> hm, i went past AUTHENTICATE first time today, woo-hoo
[22:47] <rye> to SERVER_RESCAN
[22:47] <imbrandon> :)
[22:47] <imbrandon> peterih: old versions of files ?
[22:47] <peterih> imbrandon, ???
[22:47] <imbrandon> peterih: iirc u1 stores old versions of changed files
[22:48] <peterih> imbrandon, really?
[22:48] <imbrandon> i'm not 100% sure, but thats the way i understood it
[22:48] <imbrandon> might check
[22:48] <rye> imbrandon, it does store and they can be restored, however that is low-level operation which is not yet available for end-users
[22:48] <peterih> how do I get rid of those?
[22:48] <rye> imbrandon, however there are regular cleanups that remove the files from the storage
[22:49] <rye> peterih, that 14.8 Mb storage usage with 4k file is something that needs to be looked into
[22:49] <rye> peterih, is there anything else in the web interface that could hold the data?
[22:49] <beuno> rye, I'm not 100% sure, but that number may include couchdbs
[22:49] <rye> ... that remove the deleted files from the storage, not the ones that are alive
[22:50] <peterih> rye, nope, it's just one file called .test.txt.swp with status "uploading"
[22:50] <ajmitch> when might it be possible to use ubuntuone solely from the commandline?
[22:50] <imbrandon> moins ajmitch , got u1 mostly working in sid/squeeze now
[22:50] <ajmitch> imbrandon: great
[22:51] <hirisov> hm u1 merges all the content from the computers i sync it with? is there a way to change it?
[22:52] <hirisov> i mean on comp1 i share Private/ which has directories and files. On comp2 i have Private/ with i file in it, a.txt . After syncing comp2 u1 contains both the files from comp1 and a.txt fom comp2
[22:53] <imbrandon> ajmitch: looks like the syncclient cant be used cli only, but as far as auth and such would have to be worked out
[22:53] <hirisov> althought i wanted it to replace comp2's Private/ with the content from u1, not mege them
[22:53] <beuno> hirisov, it does merge them, there's no way of making them sync independently unless you create 2 accounts
[22:53] <ajmitch> yeah, it's the auth stuff I'm thinking would be a problem
[22:53] <beuno> if you want to replace, just delete on one end and then sync
[22:53] <imbrandon> ajmitch: lynx or something might work
[22:54] <hirisov> what if i chnge a file on comp2 then sync comp2 then comp1?
[22:54]  * ajmitch would prefer something browser-less :)
[22:54] <hirisov> will comp1 have the updated file?
[22:54] <rye> hirisov, yes, it will, since it does two-way syncing
[22:55] <hirisov> i c, will it keep the latest changed version of a file?
[22:55] <hirisov> if there are different versions on comp1 and cmp2?
[22:55] <rye> ajmitch, oauth requires browser presence for the time being. However I am thinking about some way to obtain tokens on one machine and use them on another one (possibly in cli-only environment)... However DBus might need to be running in ghit session
[22:56] <rye> hirisov, if it detects that the files were changed on both machines then the local one will be renamed to filename.u1conflict and the remote one will be downloaded
[22:57]  * rye looks at ghit word and does s/ghit/command line/
[22:58] <hirisov> hm is there a way (or plan) to configure it's behaviour? a "simple" rsync-like way would be great for me, eg if at start of a syc i could specify the "direction"
[22:58]  * kklimonda wonders what happens if you already have a filename.u1conflict on your computer - will the universe collapse? ;)
[22:58] <imbrandon> ajmitch / rye : couldent the auth be done the same way launchpad-login works , iirc it has a commandline only option
[22:58] <hirisov> like "update files on u1 from computer if they differ" or "update files on u1 from computer if they differ"
[22:58] <hirisov> i mean the ther way ofc :)
[22:59] <ajmitch> imbrandon: I'd have to check that out, as far as I know OAuth still requires a browser, but I'm trying to read up on it :)
[22:59] <imbrandon> ajmitch: its a "hack" the cli option says, i think it trics it into thinking its a browser or something
[23:00] <rye> imbrandon, it requires the end user to acknowledge that the access was granted. Launchpad does some browser emulation
[23:01] <rye> class SimulatedLaunchpadBrowser(object):
[23:01] <imbrandon> yea
[23:01] <b1ackcr0w> humm, my purchases in the music store aren't showing up :(
[23:01] <imbrandon> was more of a starting point as i'm sure u1 login is similar to launchpad-login
[23:02] <imbrandon> well not sure, but you know
[23:02] <rye> b1ackcr0w, are they not showing up locally or in the web interface?
[23:02] <b1ackcr0w> locally
[23:05] <windmill> How do I add a computer? where is the "Add this Computer button" described in the install guide?
[23:17] <hirisov> anybody has exerience how u1 compares to dropbox pls?
[23:17] <hirisov> or that if it (will) have advantages ompared to that over time?
[23:24] <duffydack> hirisov, U1 syncs bookmarks and contacts and also can sync more than just its own folder (like the ~/Dropbox folder)
[23:26] <hirisov> duffydack, thx!
[23:26] <hirisov> are thee any plans to make a win u1 client?
[23:27] <duffydack> I think they are.
[23:27] <hirisov> hm actually not that important for me but probably for some users that might be an advantage
[23:28] <hirisov> and is there any ETA when the speed issue will be solved? i know new serves r introuced etc
[23:29] <hirisov> and i would much prefer suppoting ubuntu with that $10 monthly than dropbox but now it's yet painfully slow
[23:29] <joshuahoover> hirisov: we're working on the server issues currently
[23:29] <hirisov> i made 2 test files to check the sync btween multiple computers and whole day wasnt enought to get them synced
[23:29] <joshuahoover> hirisov: a windows port has started but we don't currently have any estimates on when we might release something
[23:30] <joshuahoover> hirisov: right, the service is suffering badly right now and we've got the team working on it
[23:30] <hirisov> joshuahoover, thanks - i really really hope u1 will reach the best quality cloud available
[23:30] <hirisov> that would be a major selling point i think and would strengten ubuntu as linux as well
[23:31] <hirisov> well i still have like 28 days from my subscription so guess have to be patinet to see how things go in next weeks
[23:32] <hirisov> u1 also uses somethign rsync like mechanism right?
[23:33] <joshuahoover> hirisov: we don't use rsync but a syncdaemon we created
[23:34] <hirisov> but it only synces the changes right?
[23:34] <hirisov> so if i'll have 35gb uploaded and 3 files changed it will only move the diff?
[23:35] <joshuahoover> hirisov: right :)
[23:35] <joshuahoover> hirisov: so it works similarly to something like rsync, but i didn't want you to think we use rsync directly
[23:35] <verterok> hirisov: not yet, it will upload the complete 3 files not the diff of the changes
[23:35] <joshuahoover> hirisov: oh yeah, not the diff, the whole file as verterok said
[23:36] <verterok> joshuahoover: :)
[23:36] <joshuahoover> hirisov: i missed the "diff" part there
[23:36] <joshuahoover> verterok: :)
[23:36] <hirisov> hm may i ask what were the advanatges to develop an own solution instead of using an existing tool?
[23:36] <hirisov> just curious
[23:36] <hirisov> rsync seems pretty efficient for me in such things, or r there features it's missing and u needed for u1?
[23:50] <joshuahoover> hirisov: i'm not the right person to answer this but we definitely needed additional capabilities not found in existing solutions like rsync, etc.
[23:53] <hirisov> joshuahoover, i c. well let's see how things will work in a few weeks, i hope u1 will reach a reliabel state by then
[23:54] <joshuahoover> hirisov: we're working on it...we don't like this at all
[23:54] <hirisov> there would be so much possiblities in a community demand driven cloud solution. i really wish u1 to be succesfull
[23:54] <hirisov> this is one of the few ways a linux distro could make some resonable amount of income i think
[23:55] <hirisov> and more income would mean more financial base for future improvements and stability for u1/ubuntu