| === magic_ninja420 is now known as magic_ninja | ||
| linux0 | hi | 00:20 |
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| Aquina | 'lo | 00:36 |
| raevol | it looks like XDG_DATA_DIRS doesn't include /usr/share | 01:40 |
| raevol | should it? | 01:40 |
| raevol | i mean, /usr/local/share | 01:40 |
| raevol | it has /usr/share | 01:40 |
| raevol | does anyone know where the xdg environment variables get set in xubuntu? | 01:50 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| xnoobtu | evenin everyone | 03:26 |
| xnoobtu | was hopin maybe I could find some help | 03:27 |
| xnoobtu | i think the install just answered my own question for me :) well thanks anyway. hope you all have a good night | 03:28 |
| Juanantonio | Hello. I would like to know some opinion on X10.04 | 03:40 |
| Juanantonio | Is there someone? | 03:42 |
| neozen | greetings all | 04:29 |
| bcgrown | where are the xfce panel settings stored? i just want to reset it to normal but removing ~/.config and ~/.cache didn't do it | 04:40 |
| moetunes | !resetpanel | bcgrown | 04:45 |
| ubottu | bcgrown: To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » | 04:45 |
| moetunes | I think that works in xubuntu | 04:45 |
| moetunes | ... | 04:46 |
| _Techie_ | moetunes, xfce4-panel | 04:46 |
| moetunes | so that bot link isn't for xubuntu then _Techie_ ? | 04:47 |
| _Techie_ | nope | 04:47 |
| _Techie_ | !xfce4 | 04:47 |
| _Techie_ | !xfce | 04:48 |
| ubottu | Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels | 04:48 |
| _Techie_ | !Xubuntu-channels | 04:48 |
| ubottu | Support: #xubuntu | Developer Discussion: #xubuntu-devel | Offtopic chatter: #xubuntu-offtopic | 04:48 |
| moetunes | just thought the bot links in here would be for xubuntu is all | 04:49 |
| _Techie_ | some things are, but it iwll also use ubuntu factoids | 04:49 |
| bcgrown | so... nobody knows? | 04:50 |
| _Techie_ | i could figure it out easy enough, but not whithout looking at an xubuntu system | 04:50 |
| bcgrown | what would you look for? | 04:51 |
| _Techie_ | ~/.xfce4 | 04:51 |
| bcgrown | yep, me too but there isn't one | 04:52 |
| moetunes | kill the panel then remove ~/.config/xfce/panel I thought | 04:52 |
| bcgrown | there's a ./config/xfce4 but removing did seem to do anything | 04:52 |
| bcgrown | maybe because i didn't kill the panel first | 04:52 |
| _Techie_ | how did you kill your panels? | 04:52 |
| moetunes | did you kill the panel before removing it?] | 04:52 |
| _Techie_ | sudo killall xfce4-panels && rm ~/.condig/xfce4 && xfce4-panels | 04:53 |
| _Techie_ | config* | 04:53 |
| bcgrown | yep, that did it! | 04:54 |
| _Techie_ | sudo killall xfce4-panels && rm ~/.config/xfce4 && xfce4-panels | 04:54 |
| bcgrown | i just did "killall xfce4-panel though | 04:54 |
| _Techie_ | ahh | 04:54 |
| _Techie_ | i see | 04:54 |
| bcgrown | thanks | 04:54 |
| _Techie_ | you had removed the config fiel | 04:54 |
| _Techie_ | but not fully killed the panels | 04:54 |
| bcgrown | yeah, it must've just re-written it when i logged out | 04:55 |
| bcgrown | i hate it when my computer outsmarts me | 04:55 |
| moetunes | heh | 04:55 |
| _Techie_ | si there anyone onjline that can add to ubuntu's factoids? | 04:55 |
| _Techie_ | what do people think of the case im getting on wednesday? | 05:00 |
| _Techie_ | http://www.aywun.com/ProductDetails.asp?ID=88 | 05:00 |
| bcgrown | ...functional | 05:02 |
| bcgrown | not a fan of windows | 05:02 |
| moetunes | I like mid sized cases-that looks cool :] | 05:02 |
| _Techie_ | im getting that because its one of the few cases where all the internals are painted black aswell | 05:14 |
| bcgrown | does it come with a power supply | 05:14 |
| _Techie_ | nah, i got my own PSU | 05:14 |
| _Techie_ | a 500W im throwing in it | 05:15 |
| bcgrown | cool. some of those included ones are shall we say... not so good | 05:15 |
| === markkiteflyer is now known as mkf | ||
| _Techie_ | this isnt a good PSU anyway | 05:15 |
| === mkf is now known as kite | ||
| _Techie_ | im upgradign to a Vantech ION when i can afford it | 05:15 |
| === kite is now known as mkitef | ||
| bcgrown | some name brand ones aren't so good either: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/410 | 05:15 |
| bcgrown | might want to read through that before you buy a new one | 05:16 |
| neozen | I think I'll look @ xfce #6230 as a blessing in disguise ..... time to bone up on the mc shortcuts. | 05:32 |
| mkitef | Anyone able to help me debug a graphics problem preventing me logging in to my upgraded Lucid laptop? | 05:34 |
| _Techie_ | please pastebin /var/log/xorg.log | 05:35 |
| _Techie_ | !paste | 05:35 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 05:35 |
| === anom01y_ is now known as anom01y | ||
| mkitef | Having to run IRC on another machine as the textmode console resolution is wrong as well. I'll try via ssh from this machine | 05:37 |
| raevol | does anyone know where the xdg environment variables get set in xubuntu? | 05:38 |
| mkitef | Sorry ubottu - I don't understand the reference to the channel topic. | 05:40 |
| raevol | i have a bug i need to file and i want to make sure i write it up correctly | 05:40 |
| mkitef | Sorry - ubotto I should have said - the laptop is Xubuntu Lucid | 05:40 |
| _Techie_ | !ubottu | 05:41 |
| ubottu | Hi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | 05:41 |
| mkitef | Hi Techie - Xorg.0.log is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/426803/ | 05:42 |
| _Techie_ | mkitef, does your screen support 800x600? | 05:44 |
| mkitef | Techie - should support 1024x768 I think as well as 800x600 - it's an old Toshiba R100 | 05:45 |
| _Techie_ | you may wish to try another screen | 05:45 |
| _Techie_ | as theres no actual errors int xorg.log, but it is using a very low resolution | 05:45 |
| mkitef | Do you mean plug in an external monitor? | 05:45 |
| _Techie_ | ... is this a laptop> | 05:46 |
| mkitef | Yes it's a laptop | 05:46 |
| _Techie_ | excuse me while i run and hide in the corner, i hate graphics problems on laptope | 05:46 |
| _Techie_ | laptops* | 05:46 |
| _Techie_ | anyway | 05:47 |
| mkitef | I know what you mean - it was working in an interesting manner in Xubuntu Karmic, now I can't log in and the console mode if wrong | 05:47 |
| mkitef | ^h^h is wrong | 05:47 |
| _Techie_ | you may need to use xrandr to change the resolution, or create an xorg.conf | 05:48 |
| _Techie_ | !xrandr | 05:48 |
| ubottu | XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 | 05:48 |
| _Techie_ | !xorg | 05:48 |
| ubottu | The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution | 05:48 |
| _Techie_ | have fun | 05:48 |
| moetunes | mkitef: you need to make a xorg.conf and set better hsync and vrefresh settings | 05:52 |
| moetunes | line 214 suggests that | 05:53 |
| mkitef | I just tried running xrandr, but I get "Can't open display" error, even with sudo | 05:53 |
| moetunes | is X running? | 05:54 |
| mkitef | It was, then I tried after "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" and still got the same error | 05:54 |
| moetunes | well while X isn't running do Xorg.configure to make an xorg.conf.new in your home folder | 05:55 |
| moetunes | oops that should have been Xorg -configure mkitef | 05:56 |
| mkitef | Got a cannot move old log file error - will try as root | 05:56 |
| mkitef | No X server with errors: f000:50b4: 01 ILLEGAL EXTENDED X86 OPCODE! | 06:00 |
| mkitef | error setting MTRR (base = )x.......) Inappropriate ioctl for device (25) | 06:00 |
| moetunes | trident cards do bite | 06:01 |
| moetunes | mkitef: try killall -v X and see if it was still running | 06:02 |
| mkitef | I'm going to try again over ssh so I can cut & paste the results | 06:03 |
| moetunes | k | 06:03 |
| mkitef | can't start X over ssh | 06:04 |
| moetunes | if you do the killall -v X on the lappy or through ssh does it say it was already dead? | 06:05 |
| mkitef | ssh says - user not authorised to run the X server (even with X11 tunnelling turned on) | 06:06 |
| moetunes | try it on the lappy and use sudo then | 06:06 |
| mkitef | trying X -config xorg.conf.new on the lappy returns blank screen of Ctl-Alt-F8, no change to text on Ctl-Alt-F7 and long text on console that ends in the error about illegal extended x86 Opcode and inappropriate ioctl | 06:09 |
| mkitef | /var/log/Xorg.0.log has a line near the start Unable to locate/open config file: xorg.conf.new but I know the file is there | 06:11 |
| moetunes | the command sudo Xorg -configure on its' own make a file xorg.conf.new in your home folder that you can edit to add better vrefresh etc then move to /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 06:11 |
| mkitef | Ok - now I get the Xorg.0.log generated and the usual errors about refresh rates. The console still has the error about ILLEGAL X86 OPCODE | 06:19 |
| moetunes | mkitef: did you add to the vrefresh setting in the xorg.conf? | 06:24 |
| mkitef | trying - I added HorizSync 50-70 and VertRefresh 50-70. Still getting the same errors. Just googling for correct settings | 06:25 |
| moetunes | mkitef: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/4570/toshiba-tecra-m1-stuck-on-800x600-maximum-screen-resolution/ | 06:28 |
| mkitef | Trying this one as well http://borderworlds.dk/writings/xorg.conf | 06:28 |
| mkitef | came from this site http://borderworlds.dk/writings/freebsd_on_toshiba_portege_r100.html which is the same model | 06:29 |
| moetunes | shold work but the vrefresh seems very high at 110 | 06:30 |
| moetunes | s/shold/should | 06:30 |
| moetunes | the one I posted has the same vid card and a vrefresh rate of only 60 | 06:32 |
| mkitef | I'll trying bringing it down | 06:33 |
| moetunes | high settings can fry the tft | 06:33 |
| mkitef | still doesn't seem to work - screen is black. Xorg.0.log reports (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) | 06:39 |
| mkitef | Also found this: (--) TRIDENT(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) (**) TRIDENT(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) TRIDENT(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) | 06:41 |
| moetunes | can you paste that xorg.0.log mkitef ? | 06:43 |
| mkitef | pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/426825/ | 06:45 |
| moetunes | k | 06:47 |
| mkitef | We have progress - I just rebooted and now the GDM login screen is the right resolution and so is the console mode. However, I still can't login to the GUI | 06:51 |
| mkitef | Just did a "less Xorg.0.log" in the console and now the text goes off the bottom of the screen again :-( | 06:52 |
| moetunes | mkitef: I would change the vrefresh to 40-70 and hsync to 25-55 'cause the log still says they are out of range | 06:55 |
| mkitef | Currently in the log they say they are (II) TRIDENT(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 31.50-50.00 kHz (II) TRIDENT(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 43.00-60.00 Hz | 06:56 |
| moetunes | that's why I suggested vrefresh to 40-70 and hsync to 25-55 | 06:58 |
| moetunes | all we can do is change those until the "out of range" error goes and you get a gui | 06:59 |
| S0210 | How do I remove "Wildbush" theme from the list in the Settings Menu? (It screws up my system.) What should I delete? | 07:03 |
| mkitef | still getting vrefresh out of range - should I be widening the range to allow more options or reducing the range to prevent it choosing the wrong ones? | 07:03 |
| moetunes | mkitef: slowly increase the upper setting - I would go 5 at a time | 07:05 |
| mkitef | So far - got vrefresh up to 90 and now only getting hsync errors - do I go up or down on that one? | 07:09 |
| mkitef | Current hsync = 25-55 | 07:10 |
| moetunes | try upper limit up 5 at a time mkitef | 07:10 |
| S0210 | How to start memenu from theterminal | 07:12 |
| mkitef | moetunes - hsync = 25-70, vrefresh=40-90. No more out of range errors, but I do have "(II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)" | 07:14 |
| moetunes | mkitef: you might have to change the driver to vesa not trident then mate | 07:15 |
| moetunes | S0210: is wildbush in /usr/share themes? | 07:16 |
| moetunes | S0210: is wildbush in /usr/share/themes? | 07:16 |
| moetunes | sorry | 07:17 |
| mkitef | moetunes: tried vesa and got only top left quadrant of screen visible and still not logged in | 07:17 |
| moetunes | mkitef: paste the x log again and we'll see what it says | 07:18 |
| S0210 | moetunes: yes, there is a directory like that. I just delete it, right? | 07:18 |
| moetunes | S0210: yep - you'll need admin rights tho | 07:19 |
| mkitef | moetunes: Xorg.0.log = http://paste.ubuntu.com/426840/ | 07:20 |
| Peacimowen | So.. why would upgrading to 10.04 leave in graycale with a resolution that is lower than my actually display size? (meaning that the lower portion of my screen was below the bottom edge of the display)? | 07:21 |
| S0210 | moetunes: thanks! :-) | 07:21 |
| Peacimowen | I scrapped Xubuntu completely as a result - it was really unusable and rather difficult to try to fix since I couldn't see half of what I was doing... but I'd like to find some kind of explanation. | 07:23 |
| moetunes | mkitef: seems it might be ddc module that's your prob line 150 | 07:28 |
| moetunes | mkitef: try a reboot maybe | 07:29 |
| rshakin | hey ppl | 07:29 |
| rshakin | a quick question about dropbox | 07:29 |
| mkitef | moetunes: is there a way to disable ddc? - I don't see it named in xorg.conf | 07:30 |
| rshakin | for some reason when it's loading it makes my background flicker anyone else has the same issue in xubuntu | 07:30 |
| moetunes | (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Module "ddc" already built-in - would suggest not... | 07:30 |
| moetunes | mkitef: ^^ | 07:31 |
| mkitef | Oh dear | 07:31 |
| moetunes | mkitef: that's only a guess - I can't see another reason for it not going fullscreen | 07:33 |
| moetunes | tho | 07:33 |
| mkitef | moetunes: I get the ddc error under vesa & trident drivers from the beginning. Reboot makes no difference unfortunately | 07:35 |
| moetunes | mkitef: that card is getting old now - xorg updates prob didn't take it into consideration - you might have to consider an older distribution for the lappy :{ | 07:37 |
| mkitef | moetunes: trident gives me the right resolution for GDM but an error about (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan). Whereas Vesa driver gives me no errors but the wrong resolution. Both give me the ddc error. You think it is an old card or old processor? - the error says "X86 EXTENDED OPCODE" | 07:38 |
| moetunes | mkitef: to be honest i don't know - it is the only error and it comes straight after the ddc module is loaded - so adding !=! gives... | 07:40 |
| moetunes | 1+1 I meant | 07:40 |
| mkitef | Cheers - I'll try googling the error - found 1 hit already, but doesn't seem to help http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=142&t=42872 | 07:42 |
| moetunes | mkitef: he had a fix with HorizSync 28.0 - 51.0 VertRefresh 60.0 - 60.0 | 07:47 |
| mkitef | That gets me the right resolution with the vesa driver - but still no login and still the ILLEGAL X86 EXTENDED OPCODE! error | 07:50 |
| moetunes | mkitef: mint would have been using older ubuntu stuff - might pay to see if lucid uses a newer Xorg then | 07:53 |
| mkitef | moetunes: tried tail -f Xorg.0.log during a login attempt: got the error | 07:59 |
| mkitef | (II) Power Button: Close | 07:59 |
| mkitef | (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" | 07:59 |
| mkitef | (II) Video Bus: Close | 07:59 |
| mkitef | (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" | 08:00 |
| mkitef | (II) Power Button: Close | 08:00 |
| mkitef | (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" | 08:00 |
| mkitef | (II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: Close | 08:00 |
| mkitef | (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" | 08:00 |
| mkitef | (II) PS/2 Mouse: Close | 08:00 |
| mkitef | (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" | 08:00 |
| mkitef | (II) UnloadModule: "synaptics" | 08:00 |
| mkitef | (II) Macintosh mouse button emulation: Close | 08:00 |
| mkitef | (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" | 08:00 |
| mkitef | f000:50b4: 01 ILLEGAL EXTENDED X86 OPCODE! | 08:00 |
| mkitef | ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log | 08:00 |
| Sysi | pastebin please | 08:03 |
| mkitef | Sysi - sorry (new to irc) | 08:03 |
| moetunes | mkitef: the close bits would be because X was exiting | 08:04 |
| _Techie_ | !pasta | 08:08 |
| _Techie_ | !paste | 08:08 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 08:08 |
| moetunes | mkitef: from the second last post here - http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/problem-with-setting-right-screen-resolution-in-debian-lenny-769707/ - HorizSync 31.50-81.00 & VertRefresh40.00-75.00 | 08:09 |
| mkitef | Sorry - still a step backward with the vertrefresh error and still the DDC | 08:19 |
| moetunes | hmm well I'm outta ideas then mkitef sorry | 08:26 |
| mkitef | moetunes: I appreciate the help. Now tried starting X from console with GDM turned off. I get this recurrent message "No protocol specified /n .. /n " repeats until X killed | 08:28 |
| moetunes | mkitef: how did you try to start x? | 08:28 |
| moetunes | without gdm you should use startx | 08:29 |
| mkitef | I stopped GDM. Then used "startx" from the console command line. There is another error that scrolls off the screen and doesn't go into Xorg.0.log | 08:29 |
| moetunes | k | 08:29 |
| mkitef | I get the OPCODE error then: error setting MTRR (base=0xf00000 ...) Inappropriate ioctl for device (25). No protocol specified .. waiting for X server to begin accepting connections. | 08:31 |
| mkitef | moetunes: PROGRESS - if I run sudo startx I get a GUI! | 08:36 |
| moetunes | that's strange... | 08:36 |
| mkitef | Could this relate to the upgrade and using the same username and not reformating the /home partition causing a problem? | 08:38 |
| moetunes | has the comp lost power while running? | 08:38 |
| mkitef | not that I recall | 08:39 |
| moetunes | did you mount the old /home as /home ? | 08:39 |
| mkitef | yup | 08:39 |
| moetunes | it should be fine - I do that | 08:39 |
| mkitef | ls -l of my home dir give the owner of most files as "501" but some new ones as "myusername" | 08:41 |
| moetunes | is there a .ICE file? | 08:42 |
| moetunes | or .ICE* | 08:42 |
| mkitef | There is a .ICEauthority file | 08:43 |
| moetunes | you might have to sudo chmod 777 that file and chown the rest | 08:43 |
| mkitef | I just did the chown -R, I'll try the chmod | 08:44 |
| mkitef | no luck from chmod | 08:48 |
| mkitef | now it won't work for root either! | 08:49 |
| moetunes | mkitef: you might have to go to tty and kill X | 08:49 |
| mkitef | I did | 08:49 |
| moetunes | k | 08:49 |
| moetunes | did the chown -R work? - I always use -Rv to make sure | 08:50 |
| === Mikolynx is now known as Hey | ||
| === Hey is now known as Mikolynx | ||
| Mikolynx | Help! | 08:51 |
| Mikolynx | I need serious help... | 08:51 |
| mkitef | 8GB of files later the chown seems to have worked | 08:52 |
| moetunes | heh | 08:52 |
| Mikolynx | I can't seem to boot 10.04...updated from karmic... | 08:52 |
| moetunes | any error with startx? | 08:53 |
| moetunes | mkitef: ^^ | 08:53 |
| Mikolynx | been all over the forum trying to figure out how to get past the bliking cursor at boot... | 08:53 |
| Mikolynx | I get the blinking cursor then a black screen... | 08:53 |
| MrNaz | in the new screensaver dialog, how do you download the screensavers that arent already on the system? | 08:53 |
| mkitef | sorry - chown still running I can just catch the "permissions retained" messages as they go by | 08:54 |
| MrNaz | aptitude serach screensavername doesnt bring naything up | 08:54 |
| mkitef | oops - it says "ownership retained" - I guess the last chmod worked | 08:55 |
| moetunes | k | 08:55 |
| mkitef | looks like I am getting a GUI - with my default windows open! | 08:56 |
| mkitef | moetunes: Thank you for all your time and help. I have a GUI and it survived a reboot and ordinary login! | 08:58 |
| moetunes | well done mkitef :] | 08:58 |
| mkitef | It must have been a permission problem preventing Xserver - client talk or XFCE starting | 08:59 |
| moetunes | yep sounds like it | 08:59 |
| mkitef | Many thanks :-) | 08:59 |
| moetunes | np :) | 09:00 |
| Mikolynx | See, when I reboot I see the system stuff run through and then I get a blinking cursor that lasts for 30 seconds and then a black screen.\ | 09:00 |
| moetunes | Mikolynx: is that in the recovery mode? | 09:02 |
| === mkitef_ is now known as mkitef | ||
| MaxFrames | hello | 09:56 |
| MaxFrames | strange... #xubuntu-it is automatically forwarded to #ubuntu-it | 09:56 |
| knome | there is no localised channels for xubuntu | 09:56 |
| MaxFrames | oh... | 09:57 |
| knome | the #ubuntu-it will answer quoestions about xubuntu as well, as long as they have the knowledge | 09:57 |
| knome | *-o | 09:57 |
| Sysi | knomeledge | 09:58 |
| moetunes | heh | 09:58 |
| knome | that is what they don't have | 09:59 |
| knome | ;) | 09:59 |
| MaxFrames | I have an issue with synergy+ since I have upgraded to 10.04, sometimes when I switch the mouse to the client (xubuntu) from the server (windows), the client "thinks" the mouse button is depressed | 10:03 |
| MaxFrames | thus a selection rectangle appears and moves around as I move the mouse | 10:03 |
| MaxFrames | I have to logoff to stop that | 10:03 |
| MaxFrames | in other words, it's like I was constantly keeping my finger on the mouse button | 10:05 |
| MaxFrames | I don't know what is causing this, it does not happen every time | 10:05 |
| MaxFrames | but often enough | 10:05 |
| knome | MaxFrames, have you tried pressing esc? | 10:07 |
| MaxFrames | yes, I've tried to press almost every key :) | 10:07 |
| MaxFrames | apparently, the only way to stop it is to log off and back on | 10:07 |
| mouseover | I want to apt-get g++4.2 which is not available in the Lucid repo. Tho it is available in the 8.10 repo. How can I get something from an older Ubuntu repo? | 10:10 |
| mouseover | How do I apt-get a package from an older Ubuntu repo? For example, g++-4.2 is not available in 10.04, but available in 8.10. | 10:12 |
| freim | hi, quick question: is pulseaudio an optional or required dependency in Xubuntu 10.04? | 10:32 |
| mr_pouit | it's not required for xfce, only for gdm | 10:33 |
| freim | ok, good | 10:33 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| freim | does anyone know how to make keyboard shortcuts using the "windows key"? I can't seem to get them to work | 11:06 |
| moetunes | how are you trying to set them? | 11:14 |
| freim | I used the keyboard settings dialog. Added an entry which looked like <Super_L>+a | 11:15 |
| freim | which then was set to start up the xfce terminal | 11:16 |
| freim | I tested the same with <ctrl><alt> and that one worked fine | 11:16 |
| freim | but the one with the windows key didn't react at all | 11:16 |
| freim | in KDE and Gnome it is recognized as <Mod4>, not <Super_L> | 11:17 |
| moetunes | why not just use the application shortcuts in keyboard settings? | 11:17 |
| freim | not sure what you mean by that | 11:18 |
| moetunes | it's a tab in the systems settings - keyboard applet | 11:20 |
| freim | that's where I set it I believe | 11:20 |
| freim | unless there are several places to set shortcuts | 11:20 |
| moetunes | k - it would have asked you to press the keys you wanted yes? | 11:21 |
| freim | not that I can see how it helps to change where I set it when it seems XFCE doesn't recognize the windows key as a modifier | 11:21 |
| freim | moetunes: yes it did | 11:21 |
| freim | it wasn't a problem to add the entry. The problem is that it doesn't work :) | 11:22 |
| moetunes | do you have a right and left windows key? - super L is the left one | 11:22 |
| freim | yes | 11:23 |
| freim | and I set and tested the left one | 11:23 |
| moetunes | seems strange | 11:24 |
| freim | I tried googling it, but only found old entries with no definitive answer other than that it just didn't work | 11:25 |
| freim | some people apparently had some luck messing with xmodmap, but I didn't see a difference | 11:25 |
| moetunes | freim: do you have a file ~/.config/xfce4/shortcuts/"theme-name".xml? | 11:36 |
| freim | don't know, at work atm | 11:37 |
| freim | I need to hand-edit it? | 11:38 |
| moetunes | seems if you bypass the shortcuts gui and edit that file directly it can work | 11:38 |
| moetunes | it's from an old post tho | 11:39 |
| freim | will check when I get back home | 11:40 |
| arthurjohnson | Does anyone here happen to know what provides automounting in Xubuntu? | 13:44 |
| mr_pouit | thunar + thunar-volman (+ hal) | 13:44 |
| arthurjohnson | I'm running Ubuntu Cli and installed just the Xfce4 components, and with Karmic automounting worked fine. Once I upgraded to Lucid, it stopped working. | 13:44 |
| arthurjohnson | One of my machines is using Xubuntu, and automounting is working fine there. So I doubt its a thunar problem. | 13:45 |
| mr_pouit | do you usedo you use autologin on the machine? | 13:45 |
| mr_pouit | *do you use | 13:45 |
| arthurjohnson | yes, in fact I do. | 13:45 |
| arthurjohnson | Interestingly enough, not on the Xubuntu machine. | 13:46 |
| mr_pouit | yeah, it fails because of that, probably | 13:46 |
| mr_pouit | ah | 13:46 |
| mr_pouit | (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/546992) | 13:46 |
| freim | hasn't 10.04 migrated from HAL->udev? | 13:51 |
| mr_pouit | xfce components still use hal | 13:53 |
| freim | so both can run side-by-side? | 13:54 |
| freim | the way it has been described it seemed like hal was being ripped out and wouldn't work correctly anymore | 13:55 |
| arthurjohnson | Ha! That solved it mr_pouit | 14:12 |
| arthurjohnson | I put /usr/sbin/hald in /etc/rc.local, rebooted, and ta-da! Automounting started working again. | 14:12 |
| arthurjohnson | How is #xubuntu handling it? I thought hald didn't load during upstart? | 14:20 |
| arthurjohnson | I should say, Xubuntu 10.04, I didn't mean the channel. | 14:21 |
| impulse255 | hi | 14:28 |
| impulse255 | i recently installed xubuntu and it worked perfectly but then i restarted the machine and i don't have the panels | 14:28 |
| impulse255 | the sort of dissappeared i only see the desktop .. | 14:28 |
| Sysi | !panels | 14:28 |
| ubottu | Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ | 14:29 |
| impulse255 | yeah i was just writing that i can run that command and it works it shows the panels | 14:29 |
| impulse255 | but the problem is they dont reappear when i restart .. | 14:29 |
| impulse255 | also there are some criticals right after i start xfce4-panel | 14:29 |
| arthurjohnson | impulse255: When you restart or log out, did you click save session? | 14:30 |
| impulse255 | nope .. | 14:30 |
| arthurjohnson | Try that and see if it solves your problem. | 14:30 |
| impulse255 | there is a checkbox on the logout window | 14:30 |
| arthurjohnson | Yes, is that checked on? | 14:30 |
| impulse255 | that says 'save sessions for future logins' | 14:30 |
| impulse255 | i think it was on the first time i restarted ... | 14:30 |
| impulse255 | i can try again and see if that works | 14:31 |
| arthurjohnson | make sure your panels are loading, restart making sure that "save session..." is checked on. | 14:31 |
| arthurjohnson | loading == loaded | 14:31 |
| impulse255 | just restarted the laptop | 14:32 |
| impulse255 | 1sec | 14:32 |
| impulse255 | it works ^^ | 14:32 |
| impulse255 | thank you | 14:32 |
| arthurjohnson | impulse255: your welcome ;) | 14:33 |
| charlie-tca | Ubuntu OpenWeek starts at 15:00 UTC today | 15:19 |
| craigbass1976 | Someones top menu bar disappeared. How can I tell her to get it back? She's got no menus | 15:40 |
| charlie-tca | !panels | 15:40 |
| ubottu | Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ | 15:40 |
| craigbass1976 | charlie-tca, thank you much. Never heard of it, and on my end, I couldn't figure out how to delete on in a hirry on my end to test. | 15:42 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, not an uncommon issue | 15:42 |
| craigbass1976 | How'd she delete it? | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | she didn't. It crashed | 15:44 |
| craigbass1976 | Ahh. | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | An easy way to see it happen is to boot the live cd environment, then click the 'quit' icon two times | 15:45 |
| craigbass1976 | Hey, while I've got you, is there an issue in general with openoffice in regards to a hardy to lucid upgrade? Last night at my house on regular ubuntu, there was some issue but I was able to go through with the upgrade. Today on Xub (at work) the upgrade wouldn't continue. I've uninstalled and will give it another go. | 15:45 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 15:45 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know of any other workaround, then to uninstall and reinstall OO.o | 15:46 |
| === angus is now known as casper3 | ||
| ocs | hi. I'm trying to install 10.04 with the live cd. Unfortunately, it doesn't see any root filesystem. I obtain the same error with 9.10, while 9.04 works... | 16:07 |
| Prajwal | any command to start a new terminal | 16:12 |
| Prajwal | other than xterm | 16:12 |
| charlie-tca | xfce4-terminal | 16:12 |
| charlie-tca | Terminal | 16:12 |
| charlie-tca | both should work | 16:12 |
| Prajwal | it should have all the setting applied to terminal | 16:13 |
| Prajwal | that was my idea | 16:13 |
| rgnr | hey ppl | 16:13 |
| Prajwal | anyway thanks let me check with this | 16:13 |
| rgnr | is 10.04 worthy yet? | 16:13 |
| charlie-tca | Prajwal: xfce4-terminal is the command used in xubuntu to start your terminal | 16:13 |
| charlie-tca | rgnr: worthy of ??? | 16:13 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 16:13 |
| rgnr | i saw some posts made a few days ago | 16:14 |
| rgnr | reportin 10.04 is being mighty problematic | 16:14 |
| charlie-tca | Oh? | 16:14 |
| charlie-tca | I run it on three systems with a problem | 16:15 |
| charlie-tca | There is a bug in thunar, which freezes it if you use detailed view | 16:15 |
| Prajwal | thanks charlie-tca | 16:16 |
| Prajwal | actually i had my manual setting applied there ...xterm was showing me a white background | 16:16 |
| Prajwal | this helped me better | 16:16 |
| ocs | "no root file system is defined. please correct this from partitioning menu" during installation from live cd... But I'm unable to correct it... what should I do? I don't have this error with 9.04 (on the same hardware) | 16:18 |
| charlie-tca | Did you select a partition to install in ? | 16:19 |
| charlie-tca | The partition menu has changed since 9.04 | 16:19 |
| rgnr | and what's with grub? | 16:19 |
| charlie-tca | rgnr: ?? | 16:19 |
| charlie-tca | specifics, please | 16:20 |
| rgnr | like many users complain on grub bug | 16:20 |
| rgnr | after updating | 16:20 |
| charlie-tca | If they downloaded the early test images, it is broken | 16:21 |
| rgnr | upgrading to 10.04 | 16:21 |
| charlie-tca | Did they read the release notes? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#GRUB%20menu.lst:%20install%20the%20maintainer%27s%20version%20vs.%20keep%20the%20local%20version | 16:21 |
| rgnr | cool thanks | 16:26 |
| rgnr | i'll keep that in mind | 16:26 |
| craigbass1976 | thanks charlie-tca. Off to upgrade | 16:29 |
| === [1]Prajwal is now known as Prajwal | ||
| vik | hello, I cannot write my usb after update from Karmic, please help | 16:56 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: Can you elaborate? What kind of USB device? | 17:01 |
| vik | It's usb pen drive | 17:04 |
| vik | It mounts, but I cannot write on it | 17:04 |
| vik | it was ok with Karmic | 17:05 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: can you past the output of dmesg here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ | 17:22 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: Then send me the link. | 17:22 |
| charlie-tca | Are you using auto-login? | 17:23 |
| Guest96887 | hi, why flash drives are not automounted? | 17:23 |
| charlie-tca | Are you using auto-login? | 17:24 |
| vik | arthurjohnson, http://pastebin.com/Sp2S8d84 | 17:24 |
| Guest96887 | yep | 17:24 |
| charlie-tca | That is a bug. the workaround is to login manually | 17:25 |
| charlie-tca | bug 546992 | 17:25 |
| Guest96887 | okaaaay, so if i change autologin to manual login, there's nothing more to do, just reboot? | 17:25 |
| charlie-tca | https://launchpad.net/bugs/546992 | 17:26 |
| arthurjohnson | Guest96887: Actually, there is another workaround | 17:26 |
| arthurjohnson | Guest96887: You can put /usr/sbin/hald in /etc/rc.local just before "exit 0" | 17:26 |
| arthurjohnson | Guest96887: Thats what fixed it for me. | 17:26 |
| Guest96887 | arthurjohnson, ok, will try that, thx | 17:26 |
| charlie-tca | That was a good workaround for most users. | 17:27 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you, arthurjohnson | 17:27 |
| arthurjohnson | charlie-tca: I just fixed my Lucid installs that way this morning ;) | 17:27 |
| Guest96887 | will now reboot and see if it works | 17:28 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: Can you do the same thing for the "mount" command | 17:28 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: Just run "mount" and put it in pastebin and send me the link | 17:28 |
| vik | http://pastebin.com/kTiH4Wf4 | 17:29 |
| lsemple | hi, after instaling xubuntu 10.04,and finally getting the nvidia drivers to work for me, my splash screen for turning on my computer and booting the O/S has been changed to something that looks like its in 256 color mode (low resolution also) | 17:30 |
| lsemple | how do I put it back to the default xubuntu 10.04 bootsplash ? | 17:30 |
| === mike is now known as Guest63985 | ||
| Guest63985 | okay, that actually did the thing, great thx to everybody:) | 17:30 |
| arthurjohnson | Guest63985: Glad I could help! | 17:30 |
| charlie-tca | lsemple: yes, that is a bug in the nvidia drivers. It is acually something like 4-color mode | 17:30 |
| lsemple | christ | 17:30 |
| lsemple | charlie-tca: yeah thats uuugly | 17:31 |
| lsemple | makes me super unsure of my system | 17:31 |
| lsemple | I bet they did that on purpose | 17:31 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: Thats really odd. From your dmesg and mount command, everything is read only. | 17:31 |
| charlie-tca | Here, this tells you about it - http://www.netsplit.com/2010/03/30/all-about-kernel-mode-setting/ | 17:32 |
| arthurjohnson | I'm sorry, I meant read-write | 17:32 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: And you say you can't write to /media/usb0? | 17:32 |
| lsemple | charlie-tca: no way to fix this hey ? | 17:32 |
| lsemple | what about making my own bootsplash | 17:33 |
| charlie-tca | lsemple: see that last link I gave | 17:33 |
| vik | arthurjohnson, yes, i am sure | 17:33 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: Open a terminal and type "touch /media/usb0/testfile" | 17:33 |
| charlie-tca | lsemple: yes, you could create one. It is mainly those of us with the Nvidia cards that are screwed on it | 17:33 |
| vik | touch: cannot touch „/media/usb0/testfile“: Permission denied | 17:34 |
| vik | arthurjohnson, I was doing an upgrade from Karmic, that's it | 17:34 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: Do an "ls -alh /media/usb0" and put that in pastebin | 17:36 |
| lsemple | charlie-tca: what did you do to your system ? | 17:36 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: Or better yet, do a sudo touch /media/usb0/testfile" | 17:36 |
| lsemple | did you get a bootsplash made ? or just leave it ? | 17:36 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: sorry, "sudo touch /media/usb0/testfile" | 17:36 |
| vik | viso 6,0K | 17:36 |
| vik | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 2,0K 1970-01-01 03:00 . | 17:36 |
| vik | drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4,0K 2010-05-03 19:19 .. | 17:36 |
| charlie-tca | I cleaned up the overspray in the logo | 17:36 |
| jarnos | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9227244#post9227244 | 17:37 |
| charlie-tca | Here is the one I use as an attachment to the bug - https://launchpad.net/bugs/552000 | 17:37 |
| vik | nothing happens with sudo touch... | 17:37 |
| vik | just another line | 17:37 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: Your usb device is mounted as root | 17:37 |
| charlie-tca | jarnos: referring to??? | 17:37 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: cat /etc/fstab and put that in pastebin.ubuntu.com | 17:38 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: don't flood the channel | 17:38 |
| charlie-tca | lsemple: take a look at the bug report. | 17:38 |
| charlie-tca | jarnos: the answer is in the wiki | 17:39 |
| vik | http://pastebin.com/izJNP9yB | 17:39 |
| charlie-tca | !grub2 | jarnos | 17:39 |
| ubottu | jarnos: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 | 17:39 |
| vik | arthurjohnson, I have installed USBmount previously, just after update, because it my usb did not turn on at all | 17:40 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: Thats not the proper fix | 17:41 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: sudo apt-get autoremove usbmount | 17:41 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: Then put /usr/sbin/hald in /etc/rc.local just before "exit 0" | 17:41 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: Reboot, and you will be all set. | 17:42 |
| jarnos | charlie-tca: ok, thanks | 17:42 |
| vik | arthurjohnson, what about /usr/sbin/hald??? | 17:42 |
| vik | arthurjohnson, once again what should I put in rc.local? | 17:45 |
| === ochosi_ is now known as ochosi | ||
| Sysi | they removed hal to be fast and now usb-mounts fail? | 17:48 |
| lsemple | man upgrading is painful | 17:48 |
| lsemple | I hope this xubuntu lasts 10 years | 17:48 |
| lsemple | thats the goal isnt it ? | 17:49 |
| vik | arthurjohnson, it's not working, my usb is not mounted at all. | 17:49 |
| Sysi | !lts | 17:49 |
| ubottu | LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) | 17:49 |
| vik | I need help. My usb is not being mounted after upgrade from karmic to lucid. I would appreaciate help. Thanks | 17:51 |
| vik | Please, i really need help with mounting usb, I cannot solve it myself | 18:02 |
| vik | - | 18:02 |
| lsemple | charlie-tca: yeah ok I saw your post in that bug report that you cleaned up the logo | 18:02 |
| charlie-tca | !patience | 18:02 |
| ubottu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait. | 18:02 |
| lsemple | charlie-tca: what did you do to it ? | 18:02 |
| charlie-tca | I opened it in GIMP and removed all the excess white around it | 18:03 |
| charlie-tca | It looked like it had been spray painted, so I cleaned up the overspray | 18:03 |
| lsemple | ohh yeah I see that | 18:04 |
| charlie-tca | It still shows up big for nvidia users, but it looks sharper on my system | 18:04 |
| lsemple | yeah, well I am going to make my own | 18:05 |
| lsemple | keep the colors simple | 18:05 |
| charlie-tca | Okay. Let us see it when it is done? | 18:05 |
| lsemple | what color mode should I use ? | 18:05 |
| charlie-tca | You have an nvidia card, gotta stay in 16-color | 18:05 |
| lsemple | ok | 18:05 |
| lsemple | sounds good | 18:05 |
| lsemple | I will keep the logo the same and the icon, maybe do something cool to it though | 18:06 |
| charlie-tca | I'm no artist, myself. The best I can do is letters | 18:06 |
| lsemple | charlie-tca: yeah same | 18:08 |
| lsemple | I was thinking of making an ansi art logo or something :) | 18:08 |
| lsemple | out of text | 18:08 |
| lsemple | the matrix | 18:08 |
| lsemple | could probably just download something | 18:08 |
| arthurjohnson | vik: I'm out of ideas, sorry I wish I could help. I had the exact same issue yesterday, and thats what I did to solve it. | 18:22 |
| arthurjohnson | Whops, he left. | 18:23 |
| arthurjohnson | Wished I could have helped him, darned need to eat sustenance to survive. | 18:25 |
| arthurjohnson | Anybody around for an easy question? | 19:51 |
| arthurjohnson | I saw that one of the features of Xubuntu 10.04 is Xfce4 Classic look. How do I set that? | 19:52 |
| arthurjohnson | I poked and poked, but couldn't find anything. | 19:52 |
| charlie-tca | It is? | 19:52 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, yeah | 19:53 |
| charlie-tca | At the gdm screen, select xfce-session instead of xubuntu-session | 19:53 |
| charlie-tca | I think | 19:53 |
| arthurjohnson | Orly | 19:53 |
| anom01y | is it me or does everyone seem to be having problems with this "new" ubuntu 10.04 ?? | 19:55 |
| anom01y | and video card drivers, specifically nvidia | 19:56 |
| charlie-tca | not really problems here. Incompatible with the new plymouth screen, though | 19:56 |
| arthurjohnson | Cute! Wished it saved as much memory as vanilla Xfce4 install, but still pretty cool trick | 19:56 |
| arthurjohnson | anom01y: I had issues with them trying to get rid of hald, once I figured that out, everything worked as normal | 19:57 |
| anom01y | I can't get my nvidia drivers to stay loaded, whenever I reset the compter I have to go back into recovery mode, reinstall drivers, then restart, but then I restart again, and they are broke again | 19:57 |
| charlie-tca | Did you install them with hardware drivers? | 19:57 |
| anom01y | yep | 19:57 |
| charlie-tca | arthurjohnson: anything? | 19:58 |
| anom01y | nvidia geforce 6200, | 19:58 |
| charlie-tca | I run that card without those issues | 19:58 |
| anom01y | charlie-tca, ohh yeah, is it agp ? | 19:58 |
| anom01y | I've been having this problem for a day or two now | 19:58 |
| charlie-tca | pci | 19:58 |
| anom01y | hmm yeah mine is AGP, | 19:59 |
| charlie-tca | My mx-4000's are agp | 19:59 |
| charlie-tca | ykxf16QniGgE | 19:59 |
| anom01y | I am going to reset the computer (again).. hopefully this time they work... trying version 172 for the nvidia drivers.. | 19:59 |
| arthurjohnson | I had issues with nvidia. I wound up, of all things, removing SLiM and going back go gdm. | 20:00 |
| anom01y | charlie-tca, what version of drivers do you use ? | 20:00 |
| charlie-tca | I use the version called nvidia-current | 20:00 |
| arthurjohnson | I'm using nvidia-glx-185, I don't know if that helps or not. | 20:00 |
| anom01y | ok brb | 20:01 |
| charlie-tca | arthurjohnson: that's old for 10.04 | 20:01 |
| charlie-tca | nvidia-current is 195 | 20:01 |
| arthurjohnson | This machine has been upgraded a few times. | 20:01 |
| arthurjohnson | I'll play with upgrading when I'm not working. | 20:01 |
| charlie-tca | If you installed them from nvidia's site, you have to remove the drivers completely before installing with 'hardware drivers'. The new nvidia installer in no longer usable by us. | 20:02 |
| arthurjohnson | yeah, strangest thing. I used Slim display manager, worked good under karmic, but under lucid, where slim is in the repos, I get all kinds of artifacts on the screen. | 20:03 |
| arthurjohnson | Switched back to gdm, and the problem went away. | 20:03 |
| charlie-tca | It mioght be that old driver causing it, but it might be something to do with gtk too | 20:03 |
| arthurjohnson | Right now I'm trying to figure out why one of my laptops won't come back from suspension. | 20:04 |
| * charlie-tca thinks it is because it is broken | 20:05 | |
| arthurjohnson | My Acer 5315 suspends and comes back without problems, but the Dell Latitude D600 does not. | 20:05 |
| * charlie-tca hides again | 20:05 | |
| arthurjohnson | Used to work under Karmic. | 20:05 |
| arthurjohnson | Well, the Latitude is an issued machine from my company, and I hate it. Runs hot, touchpad is buggy, etc etc etc | 20:06 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 20:06 |
| charlie-tca | they broke some of the suspend stuff again, as I recall | 20:06 |
| arthurjohnson | Sometimes when I click something I have to "wiggle" the cursor to get it to wake back up. | 20:06 |
| charlie-tca | Haven't heard that one, though | 20:07 |
| arthurjohnson | Same with a terminal, start typing, its locked up, wiggle, and all the text I was typing appears all at once. | 20:07 |
| anom01y | yeah charlie-tca arthurjohnson can't get this computer to boot | 20:07 |
| anom01y | without going through fail safe and low-graphics mode | 20:07 |
| charlie-tca | I am finding without using suspend/hibernate, my desktop is not responding always. Sometimes have to hit the key two or three times to get a response | 20:08 |
| anom01y | I have nvidia geforce 6200 and everything was working fine until I "upgraded" | 20:08 |
| anom01y | (more like downgraded) | 20:08 |
| charlie-tca | did you have the nvidia site driver installed? | 20:08 |
| anom01y | charlie-tca, no I never used that one | 20:09 |
| anom01y | man once I get this computer going I am NEVER upgrading ever again | 20:10 |
| arthurjohnson | you could reinstall from scratch ;) | 20:10 |
| anom01y | arthurjohnson, I just did that | 20:10 |
| charlie-tca | I upgraded three systems without that problem | 20:10 |
| anom01y | after having the exact same problem after upgrading using synaptics upgrade tool | 20:10 |
| anom01y | I should just put 9.10 back in | 20:10 |
| arthurjohnson | or 8.04, and wait for the next LTS ;) | 20:11 |
| arthurjohnson | Oh wait... | 20:12 |
| anom01y | yeah this is BS | 20:13 |
| anom01y | I hate upgrading | 20:13 |
| anom01y | can't even work | 20:13 |
| arthurjohnson | I did four upgrades and four installs. All seem to be working pretty well for me. | 20:28 |
| arthurjohnson | Other than the hald problem on the upgrades, that is, and the artifacts with Slim display manager. | 20:28 |
| charlie-tca | three upgrades and 16 installs | 20:29 |
| arthurjohnson | I can't get the install to boot off the usb stick for my laptop thou, ticking me off. | 20:29 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, mine are all cd based | 20:29 |
| anom01y | well I may or may not switch to ReD hat | 20:36 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| arthurjohnson | DONT do Debian Testing whatever you do. Nvidia is completely broken. | 20:37 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 20:37 |
| anom01y | is red hat good with nvidia ? | 20:38 |
| anom01y | I would like something that has xfce | 20:38 |
| arthurjohnson | no idea | 20:38 |
| arthurjohnson | haven't used Red Hat since they renamed to Fedora ;) | 20:38 |
| arthurjohnson | Switched to Debian in 1999 | 20:40 |
| arthurjohnson | Then to Ubuntu in 2007 | 20:40 |
| arthurjohnson | Ah crap, reinstalled on the Dell and forgot what I did to get wireless working *sigh* | 20:43 |
| slow-motion | hi | 20:47 |
| charlie-tca | Hello, slow-motion | 20:48 |
| slow-motion | hi charlie-tca | 20:48 |
| slow-motion | so, the update is done | 20:48 |
| anom01y | computers are all about fixing them it seems nowadays | 20:48 |
| anom01y | using them is a thing of the past | 20:49 |
| arthurjohnson | Seems that way sometimes! | 20:54 |
| arthurjohnson | Aha! | 21:08 |
| arthurjohnson | b42-fwcutter | 21:08 |
| arthurjohnson | er, b43-fwcutter | 21:08 |
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| === lsemple is now known as anom01y | ||
| anom01y | anyone here figure out the nvidia bug ? | 22:18 |
| anom01y | anyone here know of a good video card that is not ati or nvidia but well supported in Ubuntu, AGP or PCI-E 8x, | 22:26 |
| anom01y | has to be well supported in Linux | 22:26 |
| charlie-tca | What's left if you don't use nvidia or ati? | 22:29 |
| anom01y | something good | 22:31 |
| anom01y | I don't know just sick of Nvidia | 22:32 |
| anom01y | sick of ATI | 22:32 |
| anom01y | they both owned by Intel or AMD are they not ? | 22:32 |
| charlie-tca | nope | 22:32 |
| anom01y | nvida is on its own ? | 22:32 |
| charlie-tca | They are separate companies. Intel makes it own video chips, as far as I know | 22:33 |
| anom01y | ohh yeah | 22:33 |
| anom01y | Asus as well | 22:33 |
| anom01y | ? | 22:33 |
| anom01y | There has to be an alternative video card | 22:33 |
| anom01y | that handles say 3d support, and has about 512 MB or so ram | 22:34 |
| anom01y | because you really don't need that much just to do basic stuff | 22:34 |
| anom01y | I used to play Ghost Recon online like 9 years ago, | 22:35 |
| anom01y | on 64mb | 22:35 |
| ghigo | buonasera | 22:36 |
| sebsebseb | Hi | 23:11 |
| knome | !hi | sebsebseb | 23:12 |
| ubottu | sebsebseb: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! | 23:12 |
| arthurjohnson | Well, that was easy! Switched to Ubuntu + Xfce4 to Xubuntu just by installing xubuntu-desktop, log out, and log in as xubuntu session | 23:47 |
| arthurjohnson | had to set the theme, but the menu changed with the log out and back in, and the extra services were installed. Couldn't be easier. | 23:49 |
| arthurjohnson | Don't know why I thought it wouldn't be ;) | 23:49 |
| knome | arthurjohnson, congrats :) | 23:50 |
| Martiini | how can I disable getting any KDE packages ... | 23:51 |
| knome | Martiini, there's no way to stop installing them if you install something that needs them | 23:51 |
| Martiini | I wish there was an option in "synaptic" .. to disable any KDE packages | 23:53 |
| knome | no, unfortunately there is not. | 23:53 |
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