ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates00:05
apacheloggeramichair: highly unlikely, especially since forward might indeed be used in other contexts00:05
amichairI thought that's the difference betweek left/right, forward/back00:06
ofirkkassistantdialog is BiDi aware00:06
CIA-6[kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100503230703-y8z8cedda5rnoaje * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu7.100:07
ofirkit uses KStandardGuiItem::UseRTL to decide which arrow to pick00:07
ofirkhere http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/kassistantdialog_8cpp_source.html00:07
apacheloggeramichair: who knows00:07
apacheloggerthere you have the appropriate button ^^00:08
apacheloggerno need to derive from kassistantdialog00:09
* apachelogger didnt even think of kstandardguiitem00:09
amichairyep, backAndForward should do it00:10
ofirkamichair: the manual says "If you have a reason for wanting the 'Western' back/forward buttons, please use the back() and forward() items instead."00:12
amichairyep, but since u don't want it western, but desert-camel style...00:12
ofirkso it will work also for LTR languages?00:13
Tm_Tamichair: or just want to be lefthanded00:13
DaskreeChnixternal: ping00:13
valoriebtw, noticed that http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.04-lts-release is still referring (near the bottom of the page) to 10.04 as a Release Candidate00:15
amichairofirk: at least that's how I understand it (read the doc for back too, though kde docs are not usually the most comprehensible)00:15
amichairTm_T: I do! left handed people are more creative and live longer :-)00:16
amichairmaybe we should open up the first leftorium in the region!00:18
DaskreeChvalorie: Where?00:19
DaskreeChvalorie: Ah spotted. Under Feedback00:19
apacheloggernixternal: can we haz feedback page again?00:20
apacheloggerRiddell: any news on akondi timeout stuff?00:23
ofirkamichair, apachelogger: it seens that the next and back buttons are set in app.ui00:23
ofirk*it seems00:23
apacheloggerui files00:23
apacheloggerofirk: need to be removed from the ui, leaving empty layouts around, then manually inject the kstandardguiitem into those layout(s)00:25
apacheloggeror maybe you can just as well add it to the ui file00:25
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DaskreeChapachelogger: Who has update right on the kubuntu site?00:30
apacheloggerme :P00:30
apacheloggervalorie, DaskreeCh: fix0red, thx00:32
ofirkit's getting late, need to sleep :000:34
ofirkapachelogger, amichair: thanks00:34
amichairofirk: didn't help much myself, but glad it works :-)00:35
ofirkamichair: not yet works, but will :)00:35
DaskreeChapachelogger: Cookies :)00:35
valoriethanks, apachelogger00:36
valorieoff to dinner00:36
macoso... debconf attendees anyone?00:39
DaskreeChhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/VisualIdentity/Kubuntu :-(00:44
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macoDaskreeCh: you scared me01:11
macoDaskreeCh: i was going "please be blank, please be blank" :P01:11
DaskreeChmaco: :-D01:14
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anon^_^hi, is someone from the Ubuntu Development Team around01:44
ScottKanon^_^: Almost always.  It helps to know why you are asking to see if the right person is around.01:47
crimsunit may be an awkward time to wait for a response; please just ask and idle your client, or post to the kubuntu-devel mailing list.01:47
anon^_^hello crimsum01:48
anon^_^ScottK, There's an issue with the version of Kftpgrabber in the Lucid and Meerkat repos01:48
Tm_TI don't think we care much yet of Meerkat repositories01:49
Tm_Tother than repositories itself works01:49
anon^_^Kftpgrabber was updated to SVN code possibly upstream01:49
Tm_Thi jjesse01:50
anon^_^the problem is that the SVN is from a KDE 4 port in an alpha stage01:50
anon^_^and the project is largely dead01:50
anon^_^thus development on the KDE4 port stopped two years ago01:50
anon^_^the SVN is feature incomplete01:50
jjessehello Tm_T01:50
ScottKanon^_^: What would you suggest we do?01:51
anon^_^Kftpgrabber needs to be rolled back to its last stable release01:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 559245 in kftpgrabber "KFTGabber(Version 0.8.99) doesn't start transfer in lucid beta" [Undecided,New]01:51
ScottKLooks like we updated based on Debian updating.01:52
ScottKanon^_^: If the KDE4 port is dead, we should probably just have it removed.01:52
ScottKKDE3 support isn't going to be around long.01:52
anon^_^well, the KDE3 build works fine on Lucid01:52
Tm_Talso ftp client is in every file dialog01:52
anon^_^I was able to install the Karmic build without issues01:53
ScottKTm_T: Not this one, it's in Universe.01:53
Tm_TScottK: I mean, normal filedialog supports ftp01:53
Tm_Tor konqueror, or dolphin01:53
anon^_^It's sad the project is dead, it's one of the better gui ftp clients available, minus a lot of bugs that were never fixed01:53
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Tm_Twho can look if this is needed anymore? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdelibs/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_74_plasma_applet_directories.diff03:40
Tm_T0531.19 < aseigo> yay, kubuntu fucks plasma up again .. http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/4.4/kdelibs/plasma/applet.cpp?r1=1101319&r2=1108644  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23625803:40
ubottuKDE bug 236258 in general "Plasma/Superkaramba doesn't work in 4 4 3" [Normal,Unconfirmed]03:40
JontheEchidnanothing's changed. reverting that patch will cause scripted plasmoids installed in /usr to fail to load03:40
JontheEchidnaIt's more like: "yay, plasma blames Kubuntu for trying to fix plasma's crappy experiment with content distribution"03:41
Tm_Tbut it looks like in 4.4.3 it's already there, patching an already patched?03:41
JontheEchidnaNo, that svn revision is the patch03:42
Tm_Tyou are right03:42
Tm_Toh well, shouldn't try to understand these things without proper sleep03:43
JontheEchidnaIt goes like: scripted plasmoids in /usr == fracked -> patch to find metadata file -> superkaramba doesn't have a metadata .desktop file -> superkaramba == fracked03:43
Tm_Tyou should say that to mr seigo then03:44
JontheEchidnaThe system is inheritly broken. A differen, more invasive patch is likely needed to fix the issue and nobody should blame people for trying to fix things03:44
Tm_TI agree on that03:46
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nixternalDaskreeCh: pong03:52
nixternalapachelogger: what feedback page?03:53
ScottKnixternal: Is the powerpc box running Lucid yet?03:57
nixternalnot yet... lucid server?03:57
ScottKI need to test a clamav thing03:57
nixternalthat would just be an upgrade for that03:57
nixternali can fire it up and get it upgraded03:58
ScottKI think I could do it in a chroot03:58
nixternali just can't test ISOs on it, I have no monitors :)03:58
nixternalmonitors & lcds were totalled03:58
nixternalactually, I only had 2x32" Apple LCD's03:58
nixternalthey are gone :(  though I rarely used them as I used my lappy for everything03:58
ScottKnixternal: Either I forgot my password for sudo or I don't have sudo rights anymore ....04:07
nixternalyou are logged in right?04:07
nixternalifconfig that badboy and tell me the ip :)04:07
nixternalnevermind, ssh imac :)04:08
nixternalgotta love ssh config04:08
nixternalScottK: password04:08
nixternalI reset it for you04:08
nixternalyou can do the upgrade if you want :)04:09
ScottKChanged.  Thanks.04:09
ScottKI'll do the test in the chroot anyway.04:10
ScottKIf I can confirm the bug, it'll explode.  May as well keep it confined.04:10
Tm_TJontheEchidna: r112250304:20
JontheEchidnawell, at least he admits that it's broken on their side04:22
DarkwingDuckhmmm, chrome for linux isn't half bad04:27
verbalshadowDarkwingDuck: yeah chrome is nice, but i'm liking rekonq a bit more04:35
DarkwingDuckOnly think I don't like about rekonq is the lack of Java support04:36
DarkwingDuckI don't like the memory drain of firefox and the ignoring of CSS from Konqueror04:37
verbalshadowDarkwingDuck: that is really a kdewebkit issue the way i understand it, konqueror with webkit part suffers the same04:37
DarkwingDuckCorrect. that's why I don't use either of those04:39
DarkwingDuckneed Java for school04:39
verbalshadowi need activeX for school :(04:39
DarkwingDuckTook me a month to find a school that wasn't going to make me learn Visual Basic04:41
verbalshadowfortunetly i shouldn't need it after the 10th (hopes and prays)04:41
verbalshadowmyitlab.com sucks04:42
DarkwingDuckOkay, it's bedtime04:42
JontheEchidnaooo, kde svn 1122512 looks pretty sweet04:49
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1122512&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1122512 | modernize the unlock widget a bit, based on a patch by Roman Shtylman04:49
* JontheEchidna ought to go to bed too04:49
Tm_TKonqueror <304:57
verbalshadowTm_T: yes yes, but i like it's non-web browser functions better04:59
ScottKSo now we find out how long it takes to build clamav on nixternal's ppc box.05:12
Tm_TScottK: you should ask how it's going next week or so05:16
* Tm_T hides05:16
ScottKIt should be done before morning, but I probably should have put this in screen.05:17
persiaDoes clamav fail to build with emulated powerpc pbuilder/sbuild?05:18
Tm_TScottK: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dcUD2qHTTTwJ:tomaw.net/tmp/screenify+screenify05:19
Tm_Tor something...05:19
ScottKpersia: It's not a building issue, but a fails to run issue.05:19
Tm_Tthough, might not work in that case, hmmm05:19
ubottuwwws.clamav.net bug 1921 in clamd "clamd abort() in llvm/ppc on Mac OS X 10.5" [Major,Assigned]05:20
persiaAh, yeah, I wasn't able to figure out how to allow actually running powerpc emulation in lucid :)05:20
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ScottKIs there an easy way to inspect the inside of the debconf database?05:37
apacheloggernixternal: re what feedback page: the one based upon monster survey08:37
CIA-6[kde-l10n-common-karmic] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100504080934-fnfvy3omx95c2y7g * debian/ (build-l10n.sh changelog rules upload-l10n.sh) releasing version 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu7.1~karmic1~ppa109:09
Riddellbah, who broke bzr and launchpad?10:22
Tm_TRiddell: glad we don't have any big releases coming today10:22
Riddell"Launchpad is undergoing maintenance and is in read-only mode." ah hah10:23
Riddellapachelogger: are you doing kde-l10n for 4.4.3?11:38
RiddellJontheEchidna: is    kubuntu-maverick-c++-codestyle   needing a session at UDS?11:47
JontheEchidnaRiddell: Probably not a whole session. Would be nice to discuss it for 10 minutes or so in another session, maybe11:48
RiddellJontheEchidna: and    kubuntu-maverick-libqapt ?11:49
JontheEchidnaIf we could get a "Kubuntu Package Management Roundtable" where we can discuss PackageKit and LibQApt and such with various upstreams, that'd be great.11:50
JontheEchidnadantti should be there, maybe we could also kidnap mvo and glatzor11:51
JontheEchidnaif they're attending11:51
Riddellglatzor isn't at UDS11:51
Riddellmvo is11:51
JontheEchidnasee, this is why we must kidnap glatzor11:51
Riddellapachelogger: should we organise a kubuntu ubuntu one session for UDS?11:53
rgreeningRiddell: have you bumped any of the build deps in your updates? kdeadmin for example requires kdebindings but that isnt even built in ppa yet but still kdeadmin is built (presumably against older kde). Can you update the requirements and re-upload so we test building against the bindings. Similar for the other uploads.12:29
Riddellrgreening: for a .3 release I'd hope there won't be any API changes12:31
rgreeningshouldn't be, however, to be consistant and ensure we build with the release files from each package to test...12:32
rgreeningthis validates the packages against one another and not an older package12:33
* rgreening being anal12:33
rgreeningokies, Im off for coffee and work. be back in 20min or so12:33
apacheloggerRiddell: depends on whether there is something to discuss regarding ubuntu one ;)12:45
apacheloggerRiddell: is 4.4.3 up already?12:46
apacheloggers/up/up in a ppa12:46
Riddellapachelogger: it's in ninjas, only a couple to go, upstream releasing tomorrow morning12:46
apacheloggerwell, I can upload to ninjas, but I suppose uploading to $destintaton-archive, once 4.4.3 has moved there is better12:47
apachelogger...i.e. less of a headache when moving stuff around12:48
Riddellapachelogger: do you have the bandwidth to upload?12:48
sebasapachelogger: tomorrow, time issues of release managers12:49
sebasearly though, if I make it out of bed in time ;)12:49
TroubleGive me a shout guys when/if you want 4.4.3 tested in ninjas12:50
Riddellapachelogger: so upload late tonight?12:51
apacheloggerRiddell: can do12:51
apacheloggerjust need to know where to upload to :)12:51
Riddellapachelogger: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports12:51
Riddellapachelogger: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/updates12:52
Riddellwhich is actually called  ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa12:52
apacheloggerk ^^12:53
macoapachelogger: oh oh i have something to discuss! see, the u1 gnome client used to work in kubuntu, and in lucid it doesnt! i suspect someone left a dependency off when packaging12:56
apacheloggermaco: that is more of reporting a bug ^^12:56
apacheloggeralso from what I have seen it is just a bit different12:57
macobugs can be discussed :P12:57
apacheloggera) the gnome notifier stuff is confusing12:57
apacheloggerb) gnome-keyringd does not autostart (anymore)12:57
macoi think gnome keyring is the missing piece12:57
apacheloggerwell, it is just not starting12:57
macooh so i have to manually...? this is stupid12:57
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apacheloggerwell, tell whoever made that change to gnome-keyring12:58
apacheloggerbut I think the idea is to not have kwallet and gnome-keyring not running at the same time, but started via a dbus service12:58
apacheloggerfor gnome-keyring that dbus-service-starting does not work it seems12:58
macoi love how gnome-keyring has no manpage -_-12:58
apacheloggerat least when I am poking into u1 I have to start the daemon manually12:58
apacheloggermaco: that would not be documented there anyway ;)12:59
macoignoring that it has no manpage, it wouldve been the wrong one anyway. gnome-keyring AND gnome-keyring-daemon exist. i have no idea what the difference is12:59
apacheloggerme@osiris:~$ grep -i only /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-secrets.desktop13:00
apacheloggermaco: former is a cli query helper for latter AFAIK13:01
Riddellneversfelde: how's kdenetwork doing?13:13
CIA-6[kde-l10n-common-lucid] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100504121418-v3xmlbi8cew76z2n * debian/ (build-l10n.sh changelog upload-l10n.sh) New upstream release13:14
CIA-6[kde-l10n-common] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100504121631-1j1jau4v0naobwym * debian/changelog New upstream release13:16
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rgreeningneversfelde: hey14:45
rgreeninggot kdenetwork done?14:45
rgreeningRiddell: when it all builds, I'll review all the bzr's to make sure they are up to date and match the PPA builds. After that you can upload from bzr. sound good?14:53
rgreeningjust upload kdelibs last, to ensure it all dep-waits on kdelibs to build.14:54
* rgreening puts on release mgr hat14:54
* rgreening steps out for an hr.14:55
rgreeningRiddell: can you make sure you sync up the bzrs for your builds too while I am out. So I review the most current changes. Thanks.14:57
RiddellI think they'll all in sync except kdeplasma-addons which I'm finishing now14:58
txwikingerYou guys building 4.4 already?15:00
Riddell4.4.3 no less15:00
JontheEchidnaAnybody else get an email from this Mahadevan chap?15:02
Riddelljust got another one15:03
Riddellwhich presumably means nobody replied to his first15:03
RiddellI can reply now15:04
Riddellagateau: in Belgium?15:22
Riddellhas anarchy broken lose or are they managing fine without a government?15:22
SputI think they're managing without a govt more often than not15:24
amichairofirk: How'd it go?15:24
ofirkamichair: hi15:24
ofirkamichair: I working on it right now15:24
ofirkamichair: apachelogger said to remove the buttons from the GUI and move them to the code using backAndForward15:25
ofirkamichair: I am trying to install virtualbox's guest addons and it says it needs restart15:26
ofirkamichair: is it enough to restart X?15:27
amichairofirk: no, but u can use modprobe if u'r in the live session and can't restart15:27
amichairwhen installing (apt-get) it names the three modules it uses, forgot the names - vboxfs, vboxvideo, something like that15:28
amichairofirk: just do modprobe <module> and you're good to go15:28
amichairand make the snapshot after it's all set up :-)15:29
rgreeningty Riddell.15:30
Riddellooh, rekonq is moving to extragear15:30
rgreeningRiddell: I'll start reviewing now.15:30
ofirkamichair: what I need to install using apt-get? I though the guest addons installation is through Devices->Install Guest Additions...15:30
amichairofirk: that's one way, or u can just apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-utils from the repo :-)15:31
amichairno need to mount cds and stuff15:31
ofirkamichair: while it scans the mirrors... did you noticed that even after choosing Hebrew in the first boot screen, KDE is still in English?15:34
Riddelldepends if the language pack is installed15:34
Riddellif you don't have internet at install time it won't be installed15:34
amichairyes, the boot choice seems to affect only for the boot menu15:35
ofirkI am saying that the Live session is in English15:35
amichairbut is that a bug or design? does live session work in other languages? seems like a lot of download-on-demand for a live session15:36
ofirkI think Riddell refered to the installation process, when you choose Hebrew, it needs internet connection to install it15:37
amichairyes, I as refering to live session, not installer (were u too?)15:37
ofirkI think that the live session don't download language packs, it should come with the live cd...15:38
Riddellthere's no Hebrew language pack on the CD so if you pick Hebrew at the boot screen it'll still be in English15:38
Riddellthe DVD will have it on15:39
amichairthat makes sense.15:39
amichairalthough possibly a bit confusing to have the option in the boot menu, then not change the language15:40
Riddellit will make the installer run in Hebrew15:40
amichairbut at least it translates the boot menu (I hope :-) )15:40
RiddellI don't know about that, not sure what character sets are available there15:40
amichairI've seen it at some point, so it should work (if there's no regression bug)15:41
amichairofirk: so if u pick hebrew, then pick 'install' rather than 'live session' from boot menu, the whole experience is in the right language?15:42
ofirkyes, the boot menu is translated and appears correct (not reversed as it used to be)15:42
ofirkamichair: yes15:42
amichairthen that sounds okay to me15:42
ofirkjust checked, and the Ubuntu live cd also doesn't come with language packs15:42
amichairofirk: there's not much room to spare in the cds, only the bare necessities15:43
ofirkamichair: yeah, I know. that's why the DVD would be a better advise for users who just want to check the system...15:44
ofirkamichair: do you remember which modules I need to put in modprobe?15:44
ofirkyou said three, I just found one (vboxdrv)15:46
amichairofirk: not sure, but something like vboxdrv, vboxfs, vboxvideo15:46
JontheEchidnaWe ended up getting German, Spanish, French, Russian, Italian and Xhosa on the CD for this cycle. (Considerably more than in the past, iirc)15:48
amichairwhat's Xhosa?15:48
RiddellXhosa?  really?15:48
Riddellsouthern african language15:48
JontheEchidnaYeah, it was small, plus it was on the high priority list for Ubuntu15:49
JontheEchidnabut otherwise I stuck to the Kubuntu prioritization for langpacks15:49
* amichair has too little knowledge of the ways of the world...15:50
rgreeningJontheEchidna: kdebase-runtime... do you have an outstanding bzr commit?15:50
JontheEchidnargreening: I haven't been committing to bzr since we're not uploading to maverick yet15:51
rgreeningshouldn't it be updated anyway?15:51
rgreeningwhile we are still lucid15:51
* rgreening considers this so15:52
JontheEchidnaGenerally only stuff that makes it to the archive makes it to bzr15:52
RiddellI've been committing to bzr15:52
rgreeningand 4.4.3 will15:52
rgreeningisn't this the first time we are able to use proper updates and not via PPA15:52
* rgreening remembers this to be15:52
Riddellno, I still need to get upstream to approve the policy15:52
rgreeningwhy o why does the lord vex me so :)15:53
JontheEchidnaI'll commit to bzr, whatev. :)15:53
ScottKRiddell: It'll have to bake in proposed for a while first anyway, maybe it could be uploaded and not go to updates until the poilcy is approved.15:53
rgreeningJontheEchidna: kik me later :)15:53
amichairhas anyone heard interesting feedback on the kubuntu release? or important bugs or upgrade problems?15:53
JontheEchidnargreening: pushed15:55
RiddellScottK: seems risky is that15:55
JontheEchidnaLast cycle we only got German, French, Spanish and Russian on the CD, by comparison15:55
rgreeningJontheEchidna: ty. mucho appreciated hombre15:56
Riddellrgreening: just uploaded kdenetwork15:56
rgreeningty Riddell15:56
ScottKRiddell: It could always be pocket copied to backports instead of updates if there's a problem.15:56
agateauRiddell: already there, yes16:00
JontheEchidnaamichair: There is this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LucidLynx/Final/Kubuntu/Feedback16:00
agateauRiddell: anarchy has not reached the hostel yet16:00
Tm_Tagateau: I hope you have your fork with you16:00
amichairJontheEchidna: thanks16:00
JontheEchidnaWe'll have to get nixternal wikify the survey plasmoid results16:01
Tm_Tagateau: or spoon, or similar weapon16:01
agateauRiddell: it's a bit away from the city... reminds me a lot about La Molla (only more rainy)16:01
JontheEchidnaThere's also this: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3111436.016:01
amichairI'm gonna go check out the WINE session, maybe learn a thing or two16:01
agateauTm_T: I'd love to have gear-shaped shurikens :)16:01
rgreeningJontheEchidna: sry to bug ya (one last time I promise), can you push kdelibs changes to bzr as well?16:11
JontheEchidnargreening: did that too while I was at it. ;)16:11
* rgreening hides under a rock16:11
rgreeningoh.. hmmm...16:11
rgreeninglet me re-check my bzr checkout. seems It didnt get the update16:11
JontheEchidnalatest is revision 21016:12
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=210&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 210 | Added my picture to the gallery -- Bernd16:12
* JontheEchidna slaps ubottu16:12
rgreeningJontheEchidna: k. will recheck16:12
rgreeningJontheEchidna: found it. was a patch left in bzr but removed from package. I should have seen that. I'll update bzr to remove the old patch. ty.16:14
JontheEchidnaah, whoops16:14
JontheEchidnaI might've done the same thing with -runtime16:18
JontheEchidnaappears to be taken care of, though :)16:20
rgreeningneversfelde: ping16:22
JontheEchidnaI should have a basically-usable shaman apt backend by UDS :)16:27
JontheEchidnaJust have to get in better progress reporting for package installs/removals/upgrades16:28
neversfeldergreening: pong16:53
rgreeninghey neversfelde. can you update bzr for your packages you uploaded to PPA? I'm reviewing the packages for release.16:54
neversfeldeRiddell: It wasn't ready yesterday evening and smart as I am, I turned of the computer16:54
neversfeldergreening: do we package in bzr?16:54
Riddellneversfelde: I uploaded kdenetwork now16:54
neversfeldeI remember that there was a problem last cycle16:54
neversfeldebut I can do it in a few minutes16:55
rgreeningneversfelde: bzr needs to be updated to reflect current status for lucid, until we start maverick, then we only update bzr with maverick changes.16:55
rgreeningty neversfelde16:55
rgreeningneversfelde: done yet?17:07
neversfeldergreening: just started17:07
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rgreeningty neversfelde17:18
txwikingerrgreening: Are you done yet?17:21
QuintasanAnatidaephobia – fear of being watched by a duck.17:21
* txwikinger sends some Canadian Geese17:22
* apachelogger hates ducks17:23
neversfeldergreening: everything is pushed17:23
* amichair ducks17:28
* apachelogger tells amichair to stop with them ducks already17:31
* Quintasan quacks at apachelogger17:32
apacheloggeromg omg omg17:32
rgreeningRiddell: All packages reviewed and ready to build from bzr to updates PPA. Might want to get a few more bodies to test. Mine installed fine.17:33
Riddellrgreening: we can just copy them from ninjas to updates17:33
Riddellunless there's some change needed17:34
Quintasanapachelogger: qua..ck17:34
apacheloggeromg omg omg17:34
QuintasanRiddell: apparently, apachelogger hates ducks17:34
* huntlogger shoots at Quintasan17:34
Quintasanhuntlogger: http://celtic.theoffside.com/files/2009/09/trollface.jpg17:35
* huntlogger falls over17:36
huntloggerso, I was thinking about getting supper17:36
huntloggerbut there aint is nothing to eat around17:36
huntloggerand it is raining too much to go out17:36
huntloggerso I probably will have to starve17:36
amichairit's duck season!17:37
Mamarokhuntlogger: order a pizza?17:44
Mamarokor go hunting for food17:44
claydohhi Mamarok how have you been?19:02
Mamarokclaydoh: not too bad until now, thanks. How are you?19:17
claydohgreat! Me, I hurt a bit from a bit of gout in my foot, but otherwise I am well19:18
Mamarokouch, that can hurt a lot, be careful what you eat19:20
huntloggerMamarok: I sure can survive on nimm2 only :)19:25
huntloggerone can try at least19:25
=== huntlogger is now known as apachelogger
claydohMamarok: I think it may be diet sodas, there is a correlation between the consumption and the recurrence :(19:31
Mamarokavoid diet sodas, drink water, and tea instead?19:31
claydohcorrect :) I am now well stocked on different teas and ice for custom brewed iced tea ;)19:33
claydohand a nagging spouse - everyone should have one of those, seriously19:34
bipolarHas anyone seens an issue with the imap akonadi resource getting stuck at xx% when 'Syncing Collection'? My mailbox (incl subfolders) is about 1GB in size. It doesn't seem to hang anywhere specifically. It's rather random.19:36
JontheEchidnaRiddell: do you happen to know if there will be a projector available for the Package Management roundtable, or if arrangements for one could be made?20:02
shtylmanJontheEchidna: iirc there are projectors in every room20:03
shtylmanat least if it is like the last uds20:03
jjessei was really hoping everyone was crowding around your screen :)20:06
* apachelogger finds that much more personal20:06
tsimpsonthere should be projectors in every room, but the IRC room will be on them20:17
JontheEchidnathen crowding around my screen it is :)20:20
JontheEchidnaHmm, my blog post fits in surprisingly well with aseigo's branding blog post20:24
JontheEchidnawonder if we read the same thing20:24
* apachelogger notes that googel reader shows 1500 unread items :(20:25
apacheloggerkmail comes up with 1617 unread mail20:25
apacheloggerit is horrible20:25
tsimpsonthis is the reason someone invented the "Mark folder as read" action20:28
ryanakcaofirk: Any news on the website?20:29
ofirkryanakca: sadly, there is no progress20:30
ryanakcaofirk: bummer :(20:30
ofirkryanakca: yeah20:30
ofirkryanakca: the release momentum is passing20:30
ofirkryanakca: anyway, what's up with you?20:31
ryanakcaofirk: School and bottomless piles of homework.20:32
ryanakcaofirk: Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.20:32
ofirkryanakca: ok, I will let you know :)20:32
rgreeningRiddell: well copy from ninjas is a private PPA which I thought you couldn't copy from. Two, we dont want the ~ppa on the resultant file, which means your rebuilding anyway... but is up to ou for what ever is easier to get uploaded. bzr is synced with whats in the PPA (wth the ~ppa dropped).20:33
* rgreening think my typing is getting worse all the time20:33
* rgreening is also assuming evidence probably not in fact wrt the ~ppa ... as I assumed it was going to lucid-updates20:35
rgreeningRiddell: all the bzr have no ~ppa in them.... is that going to be an issue, seeing as we are not gong into official backports? arggg... my brain tis fried20:43
rgreeningsry, meant official updates20:43
rgreeningI guess copy/build from the ninja PPA would be best then20:44
Riddellrgreening_: yes you can add the ~ppa122:26
RiddellJontheEchidna: there should be projectors in all the rooms22:26
Riddellrgreening_: copying from private PPAs magically become available shortly after the last UDS22:30
Riddellapachelogger: going to do langpacks tonight?22:30
apacheloggerRiddell: is kdelibs alraedy moved?22:30
* apachelogger just needs to start the upload, since the packages are ready already22:31
Riddellapachelogger: I don't think so, I can do that though22:31
apacheloggerRiddell: well, just tell me when I can start the upload, its only invoking a script anyway :)22:32
Riddelloh great, the copy-package.py command is broken22:38
Riddell"Delayed copy of kde4libs - 4:4.4.3-0ubuntu1~ppa1 (source, amd64, i386)" when doing it through the web UI, wonder how delayed that is22:50
JontheEchidnanot very, in my experience22:54
Riddellgroovy, there it is22:57
Riddellapachelogger: go go l10n!22:57
Riddellrgreening_: feel free to copy over the rest at some point before you go to sleep22:57
* Riddell snoozes23:03

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