[00:21] <ari-tczew> how can I find bugs opened by me, which are now fixed?
[00:27] <micahg> ari-tczew: advanced search, you as reporter, Fix Released
[00:28] <ari-tczew> micahg: nice! thanks man!
[03:16] <xnox> The builders are back =)!!!!!!!!!!!! HORAY =)
[04:26] <xnox> something is weird with the builders they show idle even thought there is a queue of packages to build
[04:37] <knielsen> "Delays occurring with pulling and scanning branches ..." ok, but is it expected that "delay" means 20+ hours? https://code.launchpad.net/~maria-captains/maria/5.1-release
[04:38] <knielsen> if expected, when is operation planned to be back to normal ?
[04:38] <tsimpson> xnox: the builders show as "idle" when they are clearing out the chroot
[04:39] <xnox> tsimpson, ok cool =)
[04:39] <xnox> awesome stuff with ppa's though =) thanks to all
[04:40] <knielsen> this branch was updated later: lp:~maria-captains/maria/5.3-subqueries ... so probably the update to the other branch was just lost? Hopefully it will recover on next push
[04:40] <xnox> tsimpson, will bulding out of the branches land in 10.4?
[04:41] <xnox> todays rollout?
[04:41] <xnox> anywho can't wait
[05:08] <Laibsch> Guys, come on now.  Are you ever going to fix those oopses?
[05:09] <Laibsch> I reported one about three months ago, revisited it from time to time and it's still not fixed
[05:09] <Laibsch> today's oops: OOPS-1585H297 one of the earlier oopses: OOPS-1513K110  wgrant at one point suggested this may be bug 508302
[05:10] <Laibsch> I'm not trying to report a bug, but convert a bug into a question
[05:11] <Laibsch> It appears that above bug is now marked fixed, so apparently that wasn't the one I was hitting ;-)
[05:11] <xnox> Laibsch, I don't think you gonna get answers here on the release day =)
[05:11] <xnox> all of them busy preparing roll-out
[05:48] <Laibsch> release day?
[05:48] <Laibsch> I thought the release has been out for a few days now
[05:48] <Laibsch> xnox: what kind of release are you referring to here?
[05:48] <xnox> Laibsch, launchpad release =)
[05:49] <xnox> 10.4 rolling out to stable
[05:49] <xnox> the launchpad 10.4
[05:49] <Laibsch> FWIW, edge oopses as well (as expected): OOPS-1585EB490
[05:49] <xnox> well you gonna get the db-devel database schemas today on edge
[05:49] <xnox> cause edge is only getting UI rollouts
[05:50] <Laibsch> xnox: I wasn't aware that LP had a release schedule as well.  seems to be coupled to the release of the OS itself?
[05:51] <xnox> Laibsch, https://dev.launchpad.net/Releases/2010Calendar
[05:51] <xnox>  s / M / Maverick
[05:52] <Laibsch> Aha, monthly releases
[05:58] <spm> well... monthly releases in the sense that's when all services get updated; but edge gets updated daily.
[07:02] <_habnabit> Is there a list of branch formats that launchpad supports somewhere? It doesn't seem to like my 2a-format branch.
[07:03] <lifeless> _habnabit: lp is scanning all of maverick
[07:03] <_habnabit> Noted. I read the topic.
[07:03] <lifeless> it will get to your branch in about 24 hours; if its just that you're seeing 'lp is scanning your branch'
[07:03] <lifeless> if you're seeing something else, describe what you're seeing.
[07:03] <_habnabit> ... no, that's not my question.
[07:03] <lifeless> ok
[07:03] <_habnabit> Doing on-the-fly conversion from <RepositoryFormat2a> to <RepositoryFormatKnitPack4>.
[07:03] <lifeless> in which case 'bzr help formats'
[07:03] <lifeless> ah
[07:03] <_habnabit> Right, I know there's multiple formats.
[07:04] <lifeless> so you have an old format branch on launchpad
[07:04] <lifeless> or locally
[07:04] <_habnabit> On launchpad. The local branch is 2a.
[07:04] <lifeless> just upgrade it - if its on launchpad, click on the button. if its local, 'bzr upgrade' locally.
[07:04] <_habnabit> I did the upgrade and then pushed. That's not enough?
[07:05] <_habnabit> Also, what button are you talking about? I don't see anything about upgrading branches.
[07:06] <thumper> _habnabit: no
[07:06] <thumper> _habnabit: it isn't enough
[07:07] <thumper> _habnabit: you need to upgrade the target
[07:07] <_habnabit> How does one do that?
[07:07] <thumper> there is an upgrade branch link at the bottom of the page
[07:07]  * thumper has to go
[07:07] <thumper> dishing dinner
[07:07] <_habnabit> Oh, there it is.
[07:08] <_habnabit> Thought it would be at the top.
[07:18] <Laibsch> I am part of a particular team in Launchpad and I want to stay a part of that team.  I don't want to receive all the bugmails directed at that team, is that somehow possible?
[07:19] <spm> no. I asked the same question a few weeks ago. :-(
[07:19] <lifeless> if its a bug contact
[07:19] <lifeless> then subscribe to the same things, and set your subscription to no-mail
[07:19] <lifeless> that won't stop mails for bugs assigned to the team.
[07:19] <lifeless> but thats a feature I think. You can however filter those by their headers.
[07:22] <Laibsch> well, I'm having a hard time filtering them (anybody familiar with sieve and dovecot?)
[07:22] <spm> Laibsch: this *may* help in some sense: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/105361
[07:23] <wgrant> Laibsch: I use rules like this:
[07:23] <StevenK> Laibsch: Yes
[07:23] <wgrant> if header :contains "X-Launchpad-Bug" "distribution=ubuntu" {
[07:23] <wgrant> 	if      header :contains "X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale" "@motu-swat" {
[07:23] <wgrant> 		fileinto "FOSS.Ubuntu.bugs.motu-swat";
[07:23] <StevenK> elsif header :contains "X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale" "<team>" { discard; }
[07:23] <Laibsch> I'd love to use something like that
[07:24] <wgrant> That filters emails I receive through the motu-swat team to a separate folder.
[07:24] <Laibsch> I can't seem to even get dovecot to start using sieve
[07:24] <Laibsch> I opened a question about it, let me look for it
[07:24] <StevenK> Laibsch: That's a seperate problem. :-)
[07:24] <lifeless> Laibsch: thats really going to be offtopic here.
[07:24] <Laibsch> I know
[07:24] <lifeless> Laibsch: just use procmail or whatever; sieve is a totally unpolished thing.
[07:25] <Laibsch> which is why I wanted to redirect things to the question on LP
[07:25] <StevenK> lifeless: So isn't.
[07:25] <wgrant> sieve is great!
[07:25] <wgrant> I moved to it from procmail a few months ago.
[07:25] <Laibsch> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dovecot/+question/109523 help would be GREATLY appreciated
[07:25]  * spm adds wgrant to the ignore list for even daring to suggest such heresy
[07:25] <lifeless> wgrant: it must have moved along a metric tonne
[07:26] <lifeless> wgrant: last I saw there wasn't even sieve integration for thunderbird
[07:26] <wgrant> lifeless: And there's procmail integration for Thunderbird...?
[07:26] <wgrant> 'vim ~/.dovecot.sieve' is all I need.
[07:26] <lifeless> wgrant: procmail doesn't *aim* to be a integrated client-controlled gui ruleset
[07:27] <StevenK> Neither does sieve, last I heard?
[07:27] <wgrant> sieve does, I believe.
[07:27] <lifeless> ah, its coming along
[07:27] <lifeless> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2548
[07:27] <wgrant> But just about nothing implements it.
[07:27] <lifeless> StevenK: very much so
[07:27] <lifeless> StevenK: its why it was invented
[07:27]  * StevenK goes back to writing bugs
[07:27] <lifeless> and, ask me in another channel, I can give you the rant about poor integration in open source projects
[07:30] <wgrant> Is there a good reason that the distro branching script thingy doesn't also copy the BranchRevisions, thereby eliminating this quite ridiculous delay?
[07:31] <lifeless> wgrant: separation of concerns is one possible answer; it could stagger the scans over a few days as an alternative
[07:39] <spiv> IIRC mwhudson said the scans were staggered, but only over 12 hours.
[07:40] <wgrant> Ah, so they're no longer staggered at all.
[07:42] <spm> for maverick? yeah, we updated with a 0-12 hours randomness. :-/
[07:43] <spiv> spm: s/hours/months/ next time ;)
[07:44] <spm> sssh
[07:44]  * spm blames the bzr startup time as the major problem
[07:47] <lifeless> spm: tell me we don't reinvoke bzr for each branch.
[07:49] <spm> lifeless: no idea; I was having a dig at spiv in ref to his talk he did ages back about making python programs startup faster :-)
[07:53] <thumper> spm: can I rename a team if it has a mailing list?
[07:54] <thumper> spm: or put it another way, how can I rename a team if it has a mailing list?
[07:54] <lifeless> thumper: hah. hah. hah.
[07:54] <lifeless> thumper: [sorry, had to be said :(]
[07:54]  * thumper pokes lifeless in the eye
[07:55] <thumper> lifeless: sorry, had to be done
[07:55]  * lifeless is saved by the LCD screen between us
[07:55] <lifeless> thumper: lp makes project setup hard; use create-project ;)
[08:00] <sjamaan> jelmer: https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr-git/+question/109223 <- what happens next? Is someone who can do this reading along?
[08:05] <lifeless> thumper: as spm hasn't answered - AFAIK renaming a list is tricky-losa-intervention-required, so 'file a question' time.
[08:06] <jelmer> sjamaan: I've reassigned to launchpad-code
[08:08] <sjamaan> jelmer: Sorry if I'm being thickheaded, but where can I see that?
[08:08] <jelmer> sjamaan: The assignee of the question
[08:09] <sjamaan> "Assignee: No assignee
[08:09] <sjamaan> That's what I see
[09:12]  * apw notes that edge is a slow as snot, multi minutes to open a bug where-as after disabling redirection bugs loading in <10s
[09:50] <dspstv> could someone please have a look at why one of my builds (i386) is stalled on the process
[09:50] <dspstv> https://launchpad.net/~alejoduque/+archive/ppa-alejo/+build/1714884
[09:50] <dspstv> lpia and amd64 finished 8 hours ago..
[09:51] <spiv> The i386 PPA builders are pretty busy at the moment.
[09:51] <bigjools> dspstv: the queue for i386 is much bigger because it does all the arch-independent builds too
[09:51] <spiv> So it's just that yours hasn't reached the front of the queue, I think.
[09:52] <spiv> https://launchpad.net/builders says the PPA i386 queue is 13 hours long atm.
[10:00] <dspstv> ouch
[10:01] <dspstv> is there a way to know when there will be a jamm?
[10:01] <dspstv> often this builds in 10-15min
[10:03] <james_w> OOPS-1585D756
[10:14] <wgrant> dspstv: This particular delay is because of the recent release of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS -- the builders were temporarily retasked to serve release downloads.
[10:14] <wgrant> They've been returned, but there is a bit of a backlog.
[10:14] <dspstv> yes, i found the place where to get the infos
[10:14] <dspstv> http://identi.ca/launchpadstatus
[10:14] <dspstv> thanks
[10:25] <mbudde> Is the Bazaar repo viewer down for maintaince?
[10:26] <bigjools> see topic
[10:29] <mbudde> I was just wondering if it was down temporarily or during the whole maintaince period...
[10:33] <l3on> core update is today?
[10:33] <l3on> (Hi all :P)
[10:35] <maxb> topic
[10:40] <l3on> thank you maxb
[10:53] <anddam> hello
[10:55] <anddam> do I need a launchpad login in order to fetch code?
[10:56] <sjamaan> nope
[11:02] <anddam> oh my bad, that wasn't an error, just a warning
[11:04] <anddam> documentation is in Answers, isn't it?
[11:04] <intellectronica> anddam: https://help.launchpad.net/
[11:05] <anddam> thanks
[11:05] <anddam> bye
[11:25] <sproaty> my bazaar branch has been updating for around 8 hours now - https://code.launchpad.net/~sproaty/whyteboard/development
[11:27] <danilos> sproaty, it's a known problem, there is a huge backlog of branches to process (~20000), we guess they'll all be finished in something like another 10h
[11:27] <danilos> sproaty, it's related to the opening of a new ubuntu release
[11:28] <sproaty> no problem
[11:28] <sproaty> ah it didn't make it scheduled april release eh
[11:28] <wgrant> It did. But the new release opening happens a few days after the previous release.
[11:31] <sproaty> wgrant, cool :)
[11:40] <easter_egg> henninge, hei again xD
[11:41] <easter_egg> and good morning
[11:41] <henninge> Oh hi, easter_egg!
[11:41] <easter_egg> henninge, what's up?
[11:42] <henninge> Yesterday was quite busy, so I could not reply.
[11:42] <easter_egg> I understood
[11:44] <easter_egg> henninge, and I'm still unable to login in launchpad ;~
[11:46] <easter_egg> henninge, someone can take off the non ascii character of my account when the bug ins't fixed?
[11:46] <henninge> easter_egg: I don't think anymore that that is the problem :(
[11:47] <henninge> easter_egg: I found bug 556878.
[11:48] <henninge> easter_egg: you said you merged accounts. Was one of them deactivated? Did your account get deactivated?
[11:48] <henninge> easter_egg: also, we are rolling out a new version of Launchpad today and so all the admins are quite busy :(
[11:48] <henninge> wasn't much better yesterday
[11:49] <easter_egg> henninge, one of then, yes... the ~a.j
[11:50] <easter_egg> so, this bug affect me and another person
[11:52] <easter_egg> henninge, so, maybe taking off the non-ascii character my account is possible to my account keep not working ;~
[11:52] <easter_egg> of my account, is possible*
[11:53] <henninge> easter_egg: I could not see the OOPS details on Saturday but now I can and it is a different failure to what I observed then.
[11:53] <henninge> easter_egg: so yes, that will not fix it.
[11:54] <henninge> easter_egg: we have other people with non-ascii names: http://launchpad.net/~danilo ;)
[11:54] <easter_egg> henninge, lol
[11:55] <easter_egg> henninge, and he can normally login?
[11:55] <henninge> yes
[11:56] <danilos> easter_egg, yeah, I can :) as a matter of fact, I am the LP developer as well and it'd be a major nuisance if I couldn't log in :)
[11:56] <henninge> easter_egg: so, we need an admin to look into that in more detail and they are hard to come by today. Sorry ;(
[11:58] <easter_egg> henninge, I not deactivated the old account in the admin panel...
[11:59] <easter_egg> I did, was as follows:
[11:59] <easter_egg> merge the account..
[11:59] <easter_egg> confirmed two of three emails
[12:00] <easter_egg> and change something...
[12:00] <easter_egg> my photo, my name, joined a group and get status of administration in this group
[12:01] <henninge> easter_egg: what is the other account, not the one you are using now? (just the name, no email address here, please).
[12:01] <easter_egg> henninge, and, finally I see the three email confirmation
[12:02] <easter_egg> and I confirmed my account, the old things migred for new account
[12:02] <henninge> easter_egg: what was the old account called?
[12:02] <easter_egg> henninge, ~a.j
[12:03] <easter_egg> henninge, maybe... there was some kind of conflict between groups
[12:03] <henninge> easter_egg: ok, that's really gone. Just checking.
[12:05] <henninge> easter_egg: can you logg into other  websites, like dev.launchpad.net ?
[12:06] <henninge> or wiki.ubuntu.com or one.ubuntu.com
[12:06] <henninge> easter_egg: they are all using the same OpenID authentication.
[12:06] <easter_egg> yes
[12:06] <easter_egg> I can
[12:06] <easter_egg> but...
[12:07] <easter_egg> Logged in as    a.j-merged
[12:07] <easter_egg> o.O
[12:07] <henninge> Ah!
[12:07] <easter_egg> the account name is ayrton.araujo
[12:07] <easter_egg> a.j-merged its strange
[12:08] <henninge> easter_egg: have you ever tried to remove the launchpad cookies from your browser?
[12:09] <henninge> easter_egg: or used a different browser?
[12:09] <easter_egg> henninge, I will try now
[12:11] <easter_egg> henninge, no.. I can't
[12:11] <henninge> easter_egg: what's the latest OOPS ID?
[12:12] <easter_egg> Error ID: OOPS-1585K1175
[12:14] <henninge> easter_egg: where did you see the "Logged in as a.j-merged" ?
[12:14] <easter_egg> I like this bot ubottu =]
[12:14] <easter_egg> its open source?
[12:15] <henninge> dunno
[12:15] <jpds> https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[12:15] <easter_egg> henninge, in the top of page dev.launc...
[12:15] <henninge> ok
[12:15] <easter_egg> and wiki.ubuntu too
[12:15] <henninge> thanks jpds
[12:15] <easter_egg> and in my account of ubuntu one XD
[12:15] <easter_egg> lol
[12:16] <easter_egg> I had not noticed
[12:16] <henninge> ok
[12:16] <easter_egg> jpds, thanks
[12:16] <henninge> easter_egg: I will file a question for that on behalf of you and add all the details you told me.
[12:18] <easter_egg> thanks =]
[12:18] <easter_egg> henninge, I will be there
[12:19] <easter_egg> I will try to run the launchpad in localhost
[12:19] <easter_egg> and I will try to reproduce this bug
[12:19] <henninge> easter_egg: what do you see here: https://login.ubuntu.com/
[12:20] <easter_egg> maybe I can hacking something and send this to launchpad =]
[12:20] <easter_egg> henninge, I will check now
[12:20] <henninge> easter_egg: sure, you'd be very welcome to do so. You can read all about that on dev.launchpad.net ;)
[12:21] <easter_egg> henninge, oh
[12:21] <henninge> what?
[12:21] <easter_egg> henninge, thats show a dialog to update my account
[12:22] <henninge> yes, it does the same for me ;) That is normal.
[12:22] <easter_egg> ok...
[12:22] <easter_egg> I will try update
[12:22] <henninge> easter_egg: is launchpad.net on the list below that?
[12:22] <easter_egg> yes
[12:23] <henninge> what date?
[12:23] <easter_egg> https://launchpad.net/	2010-05-04
[12:24] <henninge> easter_egg: ok, so your logins seem to really succeed.
[12:24] <easter_egg> I changed out my name to Ayrton Araujo for test
[12:26] <easter_egg> Error ID: OOPS-1585G1420
[12:26] <henninge> easter_egg: we have some doubled information here, unfortunately. There is also a name configured in launchpad.
[12:26] <easter_egg> the name changed
[12:26] <easter_egg> but xD
[12:27] <easter_egg> henninge, I was correct XD
[12:27] <henninge> what do you mean?
[12:27] <easter_egg> henninge, maybe join in the group that I was
[12:28] <henninge> easter_egg: but you still cannot log in, right?
[12:28] <easter_egg> henninge, yes
[12:28] <easter_egg> what I say, maybe join in a group that I was in old account before confirm all the emails
[12:29] <easter_egg> cause the problem, doubling the informations
[12:30] <maxb> I'm getting consistent timeouts trying to copy packages between PPAs since the rollout. Can someone check into OOPS-1585D1377 ?
[12:30] <easter_egg> henninge, for exemple...
[12:30] <easter_egg> henninge, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-br.am/+members
[12:30] <henninge> maxb: oops too fresh but there are problems with the build farm atm.
[12:30] <henninge> i.e. since the roll-out.
[12:31] <maxb> this should not involve the build farm
[12:31]  * henninge knows too little about ppas :/
[12:32] <maxb> AFAIK what I'm doing should only involve the database and the publisher
[12:32] <easter_egg> maxb, You tried for another provider?
[12:32] <easter_egg> from*
[12:32]  * maxb wonders what on earth easter_egg is talking about
[12:33] <henninge> easter_egg: maxb sits in the UK, so basically right next to the server compared to you  ... ;)
[12:33] <easter_egg> henninge, because...
[12:34]  * maxb sits in an office with a 100Mbit link to a London datacentre :-)
[12:34] <easter_egg> in Brazil, sometimes many provides of internet...
[12:34] <easter_egg> can't resolve somes ips
[12:34] <easter_egg> some*
[12:35] <easter_egg> if other people can upload packages, thats possible to be a problem with your provider
[12:35] <easter_egg> thats I mean
[12:38] <maxb> More of the same oops, just to show it's reproducable: OOPS-1585F1349 OOPS-1585O1581 OOPS-1585E1350 OOPS-1585EC1266 OOPS-1585H1403 OOPS-1585G1436
[12:38] <easter_egg> maxb, or nobody can upload packages in your ppa?
[12:38] <henninge> bigjools: ^ can you confirm these timeouts maybe related to the roll-out changes?
[12:38]  * bigjools is looking
[12:39] <bigjools> henninge: are you help contact today?
[12:39] <henninge> bigjools: no, just happen to be here ... ;)
[12:40] <maxb> FYI the operation in question is a copy-with-existing-binaries, between two PPAs owned by ~mercurial-ppa, and it's one I do very regularly (from a script, even - screenscraping the web UI - yes, blech, but I haven't got around to APIizing it yet)
[12:41] <bigjools> !
[12:41] <bigjools> copy checks did change in the release
[12:41] <bigjools> but were live on edge for ages
[12:42] <easter_egg> henninge, Im installing the launchpad in localhost now
[12:43] <henninge> easter_egg: You said you updated your account on login.ubuntu.com. What was the name before it? The same with the non-ascii character?
[12:43] <easter_egg> henninge, tha name was: Ayrton "Freeman" Araújo
[12:43] <easter_egg> now is Ayrton Araujo
[12:44] <henninge> ok, I am just wondering where the "a.j-merged" comes from.
[12:46] <easter_egg> henninge, me too o.O
[12:46] <henninge> easter_egg: does it show up on "login.ubuntu.com"?
[12:48] <henninge> easter_egg: anyway, I filed a question: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/109576
[12:48] <henninge> and will go to lunch now :/
[12:48] <henninge> :)
[12:49] <easter_egg> henninge, no.. not show up in login.ubun..
[12:49] <easter_egg> the login names not show up
[12:49] <easter_egg> just the name, emails etc
[12:49] <easter_egg> henninge, ok
[12:49] <easter_egg> thanks
[12:50] <easter_egg> enjoy lunch =]
[12:51] <bigjools> maxb: not ignoring you BTW, just waiting for the oopses to sync to somewhere I can see them
[12:52] <maxb> np, thanks for looking
[13:01] <Lord-Readman> There is stuff stuck in the ubuntu import que from the 15th of April, its now the 4th of may
[13:04] <bigjools> maxb: I can't find any of those OOPSes
[13:05] <bigjools> maxb: you got those reported in a copy request on +copy-packages, right?
[13:10] <maxb> bigjools: yes, that's correct
[13:10] <bigjools> maxb: which PPA/binary?  I'll try to reproduce
[13:10] <bigjools> s/binary/package/
[13:12] <maxb> https://launchpad.net/~mercurial-ppa/+archive/staging-snapshots/+copy-packages
[13:12] <maxb> Destination: mercurial-ppa/snapshots
[13:12] <maxb> same series
[13:12] <maxb> copy binaries
[13:12] <maxb> ticking all 5 sources
[13:12] <Lord-Readman> anyone able to take alook, there are things stuck in the ubuntu import que from the 15th of April.
[13:12] <Lord-Readman> ?
[13:13] <bigjools> maxb: just worked fine copying to my testing PPA
[13:13] <maxb> hrm. let me try that again....
[13:14] <maxb> bigjools: Nope, fails here. OOPS-1585K1281
[13:14] <bigjools> hmph
[13:14] <easter_egg> bigjools, when will it be possible to delete ppas?
[13:14] <bigjools> easter_egg: right now
[13:15] <easter_egg> bigjools, in next version?
[13:15] <bigjools> no, now
[13:15] <easter_egg> bigjools, now? In last week was not possible
[13:16]  * noodles775 deleted a ppa a few days ago.
[13:16] <easter_egg> o.O
[13:16] <bigjools> easter_egg: why don't you look at a ppa page
[13:17] <easter_egg> bigjools, I can't now ;x But I will try as soon possible xD
[13:17] <bigjools> maxb: were you using edge or lpnet?
[13:17] <easter_egg> bigjools, because...
[13:17] <easter_egg> In last week
[13:18] <maxb> bigjools: Hmm, so it works if I copy one source at a time. But I definitely used to be able to copy all five at once. I know this because it's a daily build
[13:18] <bigjools> maxb: maybe I was lucky!
[13:19] <easter_egg> bigjools, I tried to change my name, but I can't because the ppa, and I try to delete the ppa, but it was not possible...
[13:19] <bigjools> easter_egg: you can't change your name yet, that is coming soon
[13:19] <easter_egg> so, I created a new account with the name that I wanted ;P
[13:19] <bigjools> but you can delete PPAs
[13:19] <easter_egg> bigjools, strange xD
[13:19] <maxb> I've been using edge mainly before now, mainly lpnet today because because I figured it ought to be less likely to timeout
[13:20] <bigjools> hmmm
[13:20] <bigjools> maxb: and the timeout was on lpnet?
[13:20] <easter_egg> bigjools, I tried hard and not found anything about deleting PPAs, in my old account...
[13:20] <maxb> I've seen the same timeout repeatably on both today
[13:20] <bigjools> ok
[13:20] <easter_egg> bigjools, this was also a bug?
[13:21] <bigjools> easter_egg: it was on the edge service only until today, when some new code was pushed out to all the servers, so everyone can delete PPAs now
[13:22] <easter_egg> bigjools, thanks to explain =]
[13:25] <bigjools> easter_egg: you're welcome
[13:30] <bigjools> maxb: so I suspect I was lucky with my copy, but the copy checker was changed to pick up file conflicts which is no doubt incurring more database queries and slowing it down. :(
[13:30] <bac> mtaylor: ping
[13:31] <maxb> bigjools: And more confusingly, on one attempt just now, I got a completely erroneous report of a file conflict on the .orig.tar.gz
[13:31] <bigjools> maxb: intra-archive copy?
[13:31] <maxb> cross archive copy
[13:31] <maxb> The following source cannot be copied:
[13:31] <maxb>     * mercurial 1.6~1.5.2+3-4263d8998daa-0ppa1~karmic1 in karmic (mercurial_1.6~1.5.2+3-4263d8998daa.orig.tar.gz already exists in destination archive with different contents.)
[13:31] <maxb> this is a li
[13:31] <maxb> *lie
[13:32] <bigjools> StevenK: ^
[13:32] <StevenK> Yes, it's a lie, I have a branch
[13:32] <bigjools> is that the same bug?
[13:32] <bigjools> cool
[13:32] <StevenK> Yes, it's the same bug
[13:32] <maxb> I'm confused, how did this not break edge before the rollout?
[13:33] <maxb> On second thoughts, I must lunch now. afk.
[13:39] <shilbert> Hi, anyone willing to work out automatic update of translations for the GNUmed project with me ?
[13:39] <danilos> shilbert, is that about the automatic template generation?
[13:41] <shilbert> it is about checking why a the translation in launchpad seem not to be synced with the translations provided in the bzr branch
[13:41] <shilbert> someone helped me yesterday
[13:41] <shilbert> I did some changes but apparently I still did not do the right thing
[13:42] <danilos> shilbert, oh, there is a problem with pulling and scanning branches (see topic), and translations can get noticed only after branches are pulled and scanned
[13:42] <danilos> shilbert, so, if that happened sometime in the last 24h, that's most likely the problem
[13:44] <shilbert> danilos, so I will just wait what happens
[13:44] <danilos> shilbert, we are expecting branch scanner to catch up with the backlog in the next 12h, so we'd all have to wait until that happens
[13:45] <apw> StevenK, i assume you are aware that the checksum missmatch bug seems to have spread to -proposed to -updates transitions
[13:58] <StevenK> apw: It's in the copy checker, so it would affect any copy of that nature, yes.
[14:02] <apw> StevenK, fair enough, sounds like a long day in store
[14:02] <StevenK> apw: I already have a fix ...
[14:02] <StevenK> apw: It's being handled.
[14:03] <wgrant> How would that affect pocket copies?
[14:38] <askhl_> Hi.  Regarding building/running Launchpad on Lucid - is the current documentation on dev.launchpad.net up to date?  It still says lucid is the development version
[14:49] <gord> hi, is bzr broken in launchpad right now? non of our branches are updating
[14:50] <intellectronica> gord: yes, see topic
[14:51] <gord> thanks
[14:59] <maxb> askhl_: Well, lucid was only released a few days ago... and it is a wiki.... fix it ! :-)
[15:00] <askhl_> maxb: right :).  But I'd like to build/install it, so it's just whether I should follow the lucid instructions
[15:01] <askhl_> Also... I can edit this?
[15:02] <maxb> You may need to join ~launchpad-dev in order to be able to edit
[15:04] <askhl_> maxb: right, I might do that at some point
[15:14] <nigelbabu> loggerhead is down?
[15:15] <intellectronica> nigelbabu: works for me, but there are still some issues with branches
[15:16] <nigelbabu> intellectronica: aftering abusing the F5 key, it now works
[15:16] <intellectronica> cool
[15:31] <mhall119> flacoste: when a user creates an SSO account, will the same username be used when the create a launchpad profile?
[15:31] <mhall119> or will they be able to create a different username in launchpad?
[15:32] <flacoste> mhall119: by default, the same user name will be used, but you can change it later
[15:32] <mhall119> ok
[15:32] <mhall119> so did someone actually create an SSO account with the username "openiduser44"?  That seems like a strange choice
[15:35] <mhall119> oh wait, it was the django_openid_auth that did it
[15:37] <mhall119> flacoste: okay, the problem is that we're not gettting a "nickname" value from the openid response
[15:38] <mhall119> is that not a required field in the SSO account?
[15:40] <flacoste> mhall119: i don't think it is
[15:41] <mhall119> is there a different field we should be looking for?
[16:22] <easter_egg> henninge, nobody give a reply yet ;~
[16:22] <easter_egg> I will cry
[16:23] <henninge> easter_egg: I am so sorry but as I said, it's a bad day for this kind of stuff.
[16:23] <easter_egg> I know... its the reason to me cry ;P
[16:25] <henninge> sinzui: do you have an idea about easter_egg's problem?
[16:25] <henninge> sinzui: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/109576
[16:27] <sinzui> henninge, I think the account is linked to the wrong profile. I suspect stub is needed to fix the database
[16:28] <sinzui> henninge, since login works via email address, the issue may really be the email address in the SSO db is not correct.
[16:29] <henninge> sinzui: and stub can fix that, too?
[16:29] <sinzui> henninge, only he can do db surgery. he is also one the special people who know how SSO uses the database
[16:30] <henninge> easter_egg: uh oh, although that sounds like good news, it is bad news.
[16:30] <henninge> sinzui: thanks
[16:31] <henninge> easter_egg: stub lives in time zone UTC+7 *and* has a Public Holiday when he wakes up ...
[16:31] <henninge> sinzui: who are the other special people we could ask?
[16:32] <sinzui> I do know of any other
[16:32] <henninge> sinzui: you meant *not*, right? ;)
[16:32] <sinzui> admins can do the work, but only under the direction of someone who knows how authentication works
[16:33] <sinzui> henninge, yes, "not" was missing.
[16:33] <henninge> ok, let's hope stub pops in on his day off ...
[16:33] <sinzui> I passed it to foundations who can find someone
[16:41] <easter_egg> really thank you for help =]
[16:42] <easter_egg> someday, when I grow up, I will help launchpad bug triage =]
[16:56] <tumbleweed> my tarmac (trunk) is just not landing some branches. Is there any way to get it to give any useful debugging information?
[17:21] <dickelbeck> Hi, can someone help me with a mailing list question?
[17:23] <dickelbeck> Suddenly email postings that I send to kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net are not coming through.
[17:23] <dickelbeck> I use thunderbird, and recently added a new Outgoing Server setting pointing to google, but it is not the "Default" smtp server within thunderbird.
[17:26] <glen> hi. what are the chances of getting login id of another user who seems rather inactive?
[17:26] <glen> i.e created at 2005 with 0 karma and nothing joined
[17:28] <joh> Out of curiusity - why does Launchpad send me emails about the changes I make myself to bugs etc? And is it possible to disable these notifications?
[17:31] <glen> curiosity killed the cat :P
[17:32] <dickelbeck> lively place at this hour.
[17:54] <maxb> glen: I would say you should file a question (https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion) and see what the admins say
[18:00] <glen> maxb: thanks, that lead me to a faq: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/323
[18:31] <mtaylor> bac: pong
[18:31] <bac> hi mtaylor
[19:10] <easter_egg> henninge-afk, I will work now... and will be back later
[19:11]  * henninge-afk will be in bed later ... ;)
[19:25] <maxb> What's up with the very many disabled PPA builders?
[19:29] <KIAaze> hi
[19:29] <KIAaze> is there currently a problem with the bzr browser on launchpad?
[19:29] <KIAaze> I did a push yesterday and it is still not listed
[19:30] <KIAaze> but doing a clean clone gives me the latest revision
[19:30] <KIAaze> The page says "
[19:30] <KIAaze> Updating branch...
[19:30] <KIAaze> Launchpad is processing new changes to this branch which will be available in a few minutes. Reload to see the changes.
[19:30] <KIAaze> "
[19:30] <bigjools> maxb: it's a combination of things but basically the buildd-manager is disabling them because they don't respond quick enough
[19:31] <KIAaze> timestamp of the push: timestamp: Mon 2010-05-03 12:14:37 +0200
[20:06] <czajkowski> kfogel: you about??
[20:07] <kfogel> czajkowski: I am about.
[20:08] <czajkowski> kfogel: trying to follow up on https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/108553
[20:08] <czajkowski> the team cannot do anything till that's sorted out
[20:09] <kfogel> czajkowski: one sec, let me finish up current task then look
[20:09] <czajkowski> kfogel: cheers in no hurry
[20:20] <joh> Out of curiusity - why does Launchpad send me emails about the changes I make myself to bugs etc? And is it possible to disable these notifications?
[20:22] <kfogel> joh: I think it does that by default so that users can have unbroken threads in their mailreaders (which many people like).  I'm not sure if it can be disabled; does help.launchpad.net say anything?
[20:23] <joh> kfogel: Ah I see, so it's a feature, not a bug ;-)
[20:24] <kfogel> joh: yes :-)
[20:24] <kfogel> joh:  I actually do consider it a feature & like it, but it would be nice if it were optional.
[20:25] <joh> kfogel: Yeah, I mainly use the web interface - I didn't know about the email interface until now in fact...
[20:25] <joh> kfogel: So receiving notifications instantly after I do something is kinda annoying.
[20:25] <kfogel> joh: I think you can tweak your account to get no email notifications, right?
[20:25] <kfogel> try it
[20:27] <kfogel> czajkowski: when you say "contact" you really mean "owner", right?  That is, Allan Pierra is the current owner, and cannot be reached, and you want to change the owner to Adrian Perez.
[20:28] <kfogel> czajkowski: right?
[20:28] <czajkowski> yes
[20:28] <czajkowski> please
[20:28] <kfogel> czajkowski: what is adrian perez's launchpad username?
[20:28] <czajkowski> let me go check it
[20:31] <czajkowski> kfogel: pmd his emai address
[20:38] <GaryvdM> Hi. lp
[20:38] <GaryvdM> opps
[20:40] <GaryvdM> Hi. lp:ubuntu/lucid/qbzr is built from the .debs, but debian uses bzr udd style development. Is there a way I can get the ubuntu branchs get pulled/merged from the debian branch rather than the deb files.
[20:40] <GaryvdM> I.e: http://bzr.debian.org/pkg-bazaar/qbzr/unstable/
[20:40] <MTecknology> OOPS-1585EB1892
[20:40] <MTecknology> :(
[20:41] <MTecknology> and it happened again :(
[20:41] <MTecknology> I'm trying to change the owner of ~ubuntu-us-nd to ~ubuntu-us-central
[20:41] <metajack> Can anyone tell me why https://launchpad.net/~metajack/+archive/ppa/+files/wokkel_0.4.0+svn94.orig.tar.gz is a 404? Seems my PPA got corrupted or something.
[20:42] <MTecknology> oh.. oops.. that should probably say I'm causing an infinite loop...
[20:42] <bigjools> is it a superseded e
[20:42] <bigjools> gah
[20:42] <bigjools> is it a superseded source?
[20:42] <metajack> I haven't uploaded a new package as far as I know.
[20:42] <metajack> It's not marked as superceded in the web UI.
[20:44] <bigjools> metajack: ok it's because you never uploaded it
[20:45] <bigjools> I would need to look more closely as to why it 404s though
[20:49] <metajack> bigjools: why does the web ui list it if it's not there? :)
[20:50] <bigjools> metajack: it's one of the smaller bugs I have to deal with :)
[20:54] <metajack> bigjools: fair enough
[21:09] <KIAaze> Is it still possible to upload ubuntu 8.04 packages to PPAs?
[21:10] <KIAaze> I signed and uploaded a source package successfully apparently, but there is no sign of it on launchpad.
[21:10] <KIAaze> not even in the building or waiting queue
[21:19] <kfogel> czajkowski: I've added the info and re-pinged the Canonical LOSAs internally.
[21:19] <czajkowski> kfogel: cheers
[21:25] <fta> i understand the builders have issues right now but would it be possible to move some of the working ones to i386 for a while?
[21:38] <bigjools> fta: builders are all fine
[21:38] <fta> are they?
[21:39] <fta> i didn't have a single 32bit daily built in the last 5 or 6 days
[21:40] <bigjools> the builders get re-purposed during the Ubuntu release to push data out
[21:40] <bigjools> they're back now
[21:40] <fta> i know
[21:41] <fta> but even today, no way to get a slot, and the next push is in 5h, meaning the current one will fail to upload once again
[21:42] <fta> (i mean, chromium daily)
[21:42] <fta> (i've disabled both chromium and mozilla dailies during the reallocation)
[21:45] <fta> well, n-m. i give up. i'll stop explaining everywhere that the chromium regression impacting everyone has been fixed 5 days ago and just needs to be built. I'm tired of this.
[21:47] <bigjools> ft
[21:48] <bigjools> and all he does is moan
[23:11] <fta> bigjools, sorry, i quit a little bit too fast. but trust me, i don't "just moan", i spend a lot of energy maintaining those stuff, and people always complain to me about stuff i have no power over, it's frustrating
[23:11] <bigjools> fta: ditto
[23:11] <askhl> Hi.  I would like to install Launchpad on lucid, but step one fails: add-apt-repository complains about a missing key.  It has done this for quite a while, so what should I do?  Surely the key is meant to work, isn't it?
[23:11] <bigjools> I figured someone would paste my comment to you
[23:11] <askhl> I'm following the instructions on https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/Lucid
[23:12] <fta> is maverick open for business or not yet?
[23:13] <bigjools> fta: we also spend a lot of energy maintaining the build farm and the PPA service, and this is not the first time you've complained when someone is trying to help
[23:16] <bigjools> fta: if you were to ask, I could always rescore your builds so you can get a slot
[23:17] <fta> bigjools, well, i didn't even ask for anything this time, i just shutdown my bot last friday and answered to all the complains about missing updates, unfixed regressions for so long, etc. but then, after the restart, my builds kept being pushed back while everything else was moving forward
[23:18] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa/+build/1714980  like this one, it's been jumping from 5h to 2h for ~15h, still not started after 20h
[23:20] <fta> well, as i said, i gave up. i've closed all the related bug upstream and in lp as fixed & waiting for build resources
[23:20] <fta> bugS
[23:21] <bigjools> well if it makes any difference, I rescored your build
[23:21] <fta> thank you
[23:21] <bigjools> we're also getting new build hardware specifically for daily builds soon, so the situation will improve