[00:14] How does one add Windows to grub when update-grub is not working? http://pastebin.com/tBbgQ5PA [00:17] does anyone know how to modify the V frequency for an external 32" LCD TV ....? [00:18] previously in karmic used to work with 60Hz but now in lucid it only allow to set 75Hz... but that is not accepted by the TV [00:20] this frequency issue is present with opensource ATI driver and propietary fglrx as well [00:28] Can some1 give me the web address on how to fix grub so it detects my other partition. Thanks [00:35] Can some1 give me the web address on how to fix grub so it detects my other partition. Thanks [00:36] i'm back [00:36] w00t [00:36] can you help though [00:36] perhaps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [00:37] so does ubuntu 10.04 have grub or grub2 ? [00:38] grub2 [00:39] ok here is specifically my problem https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/570765 [00:40] Hi cordell. As per bug report, a fixed has been released. Did you try updating your system? Although I haven't got any update notice lately. [00:45] Hi again - Is there a way to debug files quickly? I'm getting a lot of 'invalid display attribute 'L' messages when loading up a program, and wasn't sure if there was a quick way to go to the line specified [00:49] Is there a kde front end for sane? [01:10] anyone know anything about regexp? [01:11] TJ_, what about it? [01:12] I'm compiling some code that has always worked for me, and I see some changes in linux from my cygwin version...mostly no big deal to fix. But I have one error repeating that I can't debug the cause of [01:13] The code is written for tinyfugue [01:14] % necropolis/prerestore_module.tf, line 85: def: regexp error: too many () [01:14] well, what's in line 85? [01:16] hm [01:16] Think it's too long to send [01:16] * ZachK_ is in the house! [01:16] !paste | TJ_ [01:16] TJ_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com [01:17] !paste [01:17] hello, ZachK_ [01:17] !paste | [01:18] !paste | TJ_ [01:18] ? [01:18] TJ_, go to http://paste.ubuntu.com [01:18] thanks. [01:18] pedro3005!!!! My pal! [01:19] Then the link here? [01:19] TJ_, yes [01:19] http://paste.ubuntu.com/427311/ [01:19] TJ_: Correct === ZachK__ is now known as ZachK_ [01:22] TJ_, have you counted to check if parenthesizing is correct? [01:25] yeah I'm fairly certain it is [01:26] hm :/ [01:26] what language is this, anyway? [01:28] It's for tinyfugue, not sure the name of the language, I just learned it while using TF [01:29] hm [01:29] well [01:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/427320/ [01:30] If that helps [01:30] 11 parenthesis. In the source code of tinyfugue 4, I see the maximum number is set to 10 [01:31] And the one that works has 10 [01:32] ah, hm [01:32] So if I split the lines up, it should be fine? [01:32] well, guess I'm the one to find out heh [01:32] thanks much for the help [01:32] Yeah, I'd try that :) [01:33] and geirha saves the day :D [01:35] one more little question, I love the workspace, but is there a way to switch between them with a key command or anything? Or a way to bind a key to that purpose? [01:36] Be advised I'll probably one more little question you guys for a few days >.> [01:36] sure [01:37] TJ_, try looking through System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts [01:37] The default combo is Ctrl+Alt+arrow key [01:38] Ah, thank you both. I should probably spend some time looking through the features, I've been busy trying to figure out my conversion issues. [01:40] TJ_ : You can also switch workspaces using the Viewport Switcher in Compiz [01:40] ... assigning a mouse button or the mouse wheel to scroll through the workspaces you have [01:43] Just as a note geirha was entirely right, and now that I see that and this error I realize what's been causing a lot of failures during use...will help me a lot! [01:49] Great :) === cordell is now known as cordell_brb_in_1 [02:38] nhandler: Ping === cordell_brb_in_1 is now known as cordell === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 [03:01] ZachK_: Pong [03:02] nhandler: Pm me plz or go to -wiki [06:24] Hello Room [06:29] hey Ms_Angel_D [06:31] Hello ddecator [06:31] hey any one der....have onr query... [06:31] one* === jay is now known as Guest93080 [06:32] grub rescue error.... [06:32] pls help [09:21] hi guys, I got a ubuntu 9.04 live CD, and I download a 10.04 iso files on local hdd, Can I install 10.04 with the iso file in 9.04 live session? [09:22] no - you will need to boot with the 10.04 - either with a usb or a cd. [09:24] you might be able to use the usb-creator program on the 9.04 livecd to make a bootable 10.04 but I am not sure. [09:24] I've tried to boot a grub from a usb drive(128M), and I rename the 10.04 iso file to 123.iso. But when I type grub> find 123.iso. It's said "no files found" [09:24] I only got a 128M bootable USB : [09:24] ( [09:24] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/usb [09:25] oh :( [09:26] you might be able to use unetbootin with a minimal iso - they are only 10Mb or so - but you will need ethernet to complete the install as you will need to get the rest of the packages you need [09:26] where I can download it [09:27] ? [09:27] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal [09:27] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [09:27] lots of links to have a look at :) [09:28] is it that work for 10.04? [09:28] assuming the laptop/pc you are installing to has good enough specs - you could probably install ubuntu-desktop once you have the minimal started [09:29] should do - though I have not done so myself [09:31] so after I download the minimalCD, use the "usb startup creator" from 9.04 to burn the usb drive, then boot. [09:31] that's all? [09:32] then do the install with that yes - that will install a minimal system - you can then add to that as you want [09:33] that is if it works - as I said I have not done so myself - but it should work :) [09:33] thx, I try now. :) [09:33] once the minimal install has finished - installing ubuntu-desktop should get a normal desktop for you [09:33] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [09:35] Will I get the same system as which install from a CD? [09:35] that is ubuntu-desktop [09:37] I see, thanks a lot [09:37] good luck [10:39] hi! [10:39] anyone alive? [10:40] Guys? [10:40] :P [10:41] ok my problem is im trying to install ubuntu 10.04 via wubi! but everytime it tried to download amd64 one when i have manually downloaded normal 32bit one! [10:41] and it is in the same folder! [10:41] can anyone help pls?:( [10:42] btw using interl P4 system [10:42] 2gb ram [10:42] i do not understand your question [10:42] you want the amd and you get the 32 bit? [10:43] I dont want wubi to download and install the amd64:S [10:43] a p4 isn't 64 bit afaik [10:44] yeahh but then why is wubi trying to download that one when i have the 32bit iso? [10:44] via wich mirror download site are you downloaden this? [10:45] on the other hand it seems a bug in wubi... [10:46] iv download ubuntu and wubi frm their main sites i guess:S [10:46] ubuntu via torrent [10:46] yeah i think so too! [10:46] sucks:( [10:47] i have never tried wubi [10:47] but googling now gor ya [10:47] g=for [10:47] iv googled [10:47] read all the forums n stuff! [10:48] im gona go get high.... [12:17] hi [12:17] here are all ubuntu users? [12:17] or others also? [13:12] . [13:15] is there any one who have used "UMC-71" Edge modem in ubuntu? [13:34] morning all [13:42] lo hetirv [13:44] Hey starcraftman! [13:44] I have a question.... why don't I have the safe graphics mode option on the 64 bit Live CD? (10.04) [13:45] hetirv: Are you running a 64-bit machine? [13:45] yeah I got a new Latitude E6510 with a core i5 [13:46] Video card is nVidia NVS 3100M [13:48] Hmm [13:49] and since I don't have safe graphics mode anything I do I can't see, so I can't test the disk for defects [13:50] Weird [13:52] I really want to use the 64 bit, but a got ahold of the 32 bit Kubuntu disk and its doing the same think (black screen) on boot [13:52] I know its booting though, cause I get the login sounds [13:56] Sure your stuff is compatible? [13:57] I though it was, I'll check again [13:59] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/557744 [13:59] this is my problem [13:59] still reading the comments === mohi1 is now known as Guest53599 === compiledkernel1 is now known as compiledkernel === running_rabbit07 is now known as uRock [20:03] how to remove Indicator Applet from the panel on unr? it is locked. [20:04] toni_bg: right click, unlock, then right click remove [20:05] the menu is not active [20:05] the only active menu is about [20:06] hey paultag [20:06] hey canthus13 [20:08] toni_bg: Do you just want the envelope gone? [20:12] eh? === bgs000 is now known as bgs100 [21:08] how can i change my irc name to cordell and not cordell_ [21:09] cordell_, if cordell is available (it might not be), /nick cordell [21:09] then register it [21:10] o well i just use it like it is [21:10] the problem with that is anyone can use your nick [21:11] well i was on here yesterday w/ that nick [21:11] doesn't change anything; if you haven't registered the nick, you don't "own" it [21:11] how do you register it [21:12] type /msg NickServ register help [21:27] Hello [21:27] anyone home? [21:28] Lots of people home :) [21:30] im at home [21:30] oh just haven't done this for years and am used to seeing lots of threads [21:30] irc has threads??? [21:31] wel I say threads. I really mean conversations [21:31] o lol [21:31] We have conversations, but not in here as its dedicated help :) [21:31] anyhow... can I get some help here ref lucid 64bit? [21:32] I would think so :) I haven't installed it myself yet. [21:32] im not an ubuntu wizard, but what about ubuntu 64 bit? [21:32] Trying to install 64bit onto Dell T3500 with NVidia Quadro NVS 295. [21:32] Live Cd works and Install completes. [21:32] When I boot I get BIOS and Disk info then boot switches to flashing cursor after disk read and then Monitor goes into sleep mode. [21:32] PC appears Not to continue booting. Any ideas? [21:32] Fedora installs and works fine... [21:33] arthursc0: Can you get a prompt if you enter a tty? [21:33] I can't remember the shortcut atm. [21:34] tried the usual shft f1 etc no tty [21:34] prompt = virtual terminal??? [21:34] if so, then it is Ctrl - Alt - F1 [21:35] cordell_: Yes [21:35] Ok will try tomorrow. T3500 is at work. [21:35] i just looked at the specs of laptop, and its a beast [21:35] once I get to tty what would be the next step? [21:36] cordell_: what laptop [21:41] bump [21:41] arthursc0: I would guess getting some xorg.conf info and eventually set it for vesa driver? [21:43] Your on the right track as it has an NVidia NVS 295 displayport card in it and there seems to be lots of threads around on these cards and 64bit. === scouris_ is now known as scouris [22:27] I am an IRC newbie, but long-time Ubuntu user. I just asked a question on #ubuntu. Wow, I got quick answers, but I just couldn't keep up reading them because of the high rate of messages flowing past in the window. I use empathy, and while it allows me to scroll up, it forces the scrollbar to the bottom of the window as soon as a new post appears (every few second or so). This makes it almost impossible to keep up with any conversatoin in that [22:27] channel. Any advice how to work around that would be very welcome. Thanks. [22:28] I don't know about empathy. I use XChat and it does not have such issue [22:29] niether does pidgin [22:30] nor irssi :) [22:31] although I've never been a fan of using empahty or pidgin as an IRC client... [22:32] just because you *can* put a screw in a wall with a hammer doesn't mean you should ;) [22:32] sonofjon: I would give xchat a try it is a proper irc client [22:32] I would really suggest xchat as a good IRC client if you want to use something with a nice GUI [22:32] I noticed I can do CTRL-F to search for my nick, but still, as soon as there is a new msg the window scrolls down to the bottom again... Very annoying. No way to read any other messages than the last ten or so... [22:32] sonofjon: That is also a bug and I would log it. If you have scrolled up on the screen empathy shouldn't just scroll down [22:33] drubin: Thanks for the support. I'll check launchpad, and post it. [22:33] Hello people, anyone has any suggestion on a webcam application? [22:33] swoody: pidgin may be basic (like me) but it does allow me to kkep my nicks open on MSN, AIM & Yahoo! whilst using IRC in one small programme. xChat it is not :-) [22:33] van: Cheese [22:34] Ta phillw [22:35] phillw: that's true, but again, sort of swiss army knifeish. I prefer to use a good IRC client in lieu of tacking on another task to pidgin [22:35] phillw: but that's the great thing about Linux, you and I can do what we need to however we want to. What may be good for one person may not completely different for the next :) [22:37] i know what you mean, I've read through some of the plugins for pidgin - i just use vanilla flavour. As you say, I'd have to run several apps to get the 'best' for MSN, AIM, Yahoo! and IRC - and then keep track of them all. I have them all on one screen, which is what I want. [22:45] There is already a bug posted on the empathy scrolling issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adium-theme-ubuntu/+bug/542806 [22:48] I tried empathy for about a week before I just couldn't use it any more [22:49] Its horrible drubin [22:49] I hate it [22:49] it has soooooo many papper cuts I gave up maiking lists [22:50] They should do a 1000 papercuts in empathy project :) [22:52] true that [22:52] lI started making a list but seriously got so annoyed I just purged empathy [22:52] very annoyed they removed pidgin and included that in lucid [22:53] imo they didn't listen to the users at all. [22:53] empathy was not getting a good press on the 10.04 testing forum, tbh. it's not ready for release yet. [22:53] Haven't heard anyone who liked it yet. [22:54] it is shit [22:55] (keeps pidgin) - lol [22:56] I understand their reasoning for switching to empay and i agree with them [22:56] but I thinkt hey should have fixed the damn UI an user experience before swiching over [22:56] empathy is not in lubuntu, we have pidgin, xchat and sylpheed. [22:57] ;-p [22:58] mind you, we still have the buttons in the correct places at the moment, no doubt that will change ;-) [23:00] phillw: I was very glad to see Lubuntu using xchat :) [23:00] it's nice to have a dedicated IRC client included with at least *some* distros these days :/ [23:00] swoody: it is the preferred irc agent, as i said, i use pidgin because of my IM accounts. [23:01] Goodnight folks! [23:01] So, can one use pidgin with the new me menu / indicator applet? [23:01] i've got one person chatting to me via Yahoo! and another via AIM - it just suits me, and that is what linux is all about. [23:01] phillw: :) [23:01] sonofjon: Using Pidgin with memenu here. [23:02] Great, how? [23:02] sonofjon: Only problem is that if you go offline, the only way to select an online status is to open the buddy menu and change it. [23:02] sonofjon: You should be able to just install Pidgin, and it should work (I would also uninstall Empathy) [23:03] I could live with that, I'll try it. [23:03] Thanks! Can pidgin import my account settings from empathy? [23:05] sonofjon: I don't believe so [23:05] sonofjon: nope. [23:06] Not a big deal. It'll be quick to re-enter. [23:06] sonofjon: Pidgin is fairly easy to configure, however, and there are plugins available if you are interested in extending it [23:10] i need help restoring my original settings for the plymouth boot screen/splash screen [23:10] screwedmyboot: What did you change? [23:11] See you later (I'll be back using pidgin) [23:11] sorry, just closed the window, just a sec [23:12] can't find it, but i added some plymouth themes [23:12] and now the initial screen (prior to login window) shows up for a few seconds and then hangs on a blank screen [23:14] here we go...i found some new themes on the software center, added them [23:14] then ran "sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth" [23:14] it had me select a new theme (type 1,2,3 or 4 for the desired theme) [23:15] and then when i rebooted, the above issue happened. [23:15] screwedmyboot: Have you tried reverting to the original theme? Also, did the resolution change with these new themes? [23:16] i'm not sure about the resolution; i believe it did just from appearance. and reverting back is exactly what i want to do [23:16] but i don't know how to get to a terminal to do so. i'm running on the livecd right now (10.04) [23:19] screwedmyboot: Okay, what you should try to do is restart, and when Grub comes up (you might need to hit ESC) select the first (recovery mode) option, and when you get to the blue screen select "Drop to root shell prompt. From there, run sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth [23:20] awesome, thanks. didn't know how to get to the grub screen, guess i shoulda asked that [23:21] screwedmyboot: It's no problem. If this doesn't solve your problem, we can try something else. [23:22] alrighty, hopefully be right back [23:24] Hello [23:25] smee2: Hi [23:26] what happens when you delete a file in linux? is there something analogous to a 'recycle bin' that i need to empty or does deleting a file take care of everything? [23:26] depends on how you delete it [23:26] lol. [23:26] bodhi_zazen, u there bro? [23:26] smee2, using 'rm' wont [23:26] but [23:26] like if ur using nautilus then yeah [23:26] smee2, ubuntu does have a recycle bin, and files you delete by pressing the "delete" key or by right click > delete go there [23:27] but, as hellou said, if you delete it via the command line, it is erased on the spot [23:27] smee2: You can get to the Trash by clicking the trash icon in the bottom right-hand corner [23:27] If you want though you can enable a "delete" action when you right click a dir/file that will not send it to trash [23:27] just rm [23:28] ...hidden right in front of my face... [23:28] smee2, are you worried about secure deletion? [23:28] hellou: partly. i also don't want to waste space [23:29] but learning secure deletion would be nice [23:29] Okay, well imo the most secure tool to use would be 'srm' from the secure-delete package [23:29] heres from man [23:29] srm removes each specified file by overwriting, renaming, and truncat- [23:29] ing it before unlinking. This prevents other people from undeleting or [23:29] recovering any information about the file from the command line. [23:30] it's better then shred because iirc shred doesnt go recursive [23:31] bodhi_zazen, fkin wake up bro [23:32] awesome. just installed it. [23:32] thanks a lot [23:33] ok, tried it, couldn't get to my xterm but it flashed between the regular boot screen and verbose mode [23:33] BUT, i got into my system, and i think we're good now [23:33] only thing is the resolution is still funky [23:34] screwedmybootnom: What do you mean? Is the resolution low? [23:35] hellou: zup ? [23:35] YO> [23:35] If I have a directory window open, isn't there a way to open up a terminal right to that location? I tried right-click and shift, ctrl, but I can't see it. [23:36] i'm sure there's some nautilus plugin for that... [23:36] smee2: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-gnome-open-terminal-shell-prompt-here/ [23:36] oooook, not so good. my programs are randomly getting killed [23:36] http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/05/13/nautilus-open-terminal-terminal-quick-launch/ [23:36] too slow hellou [23:37] =) [23:37] hah [23:37] smee2: sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal [23:37] basically what that page says ^ [23:37] too slow Jon_Monreal [23:37] hellou: Figures lol [23:37] lol. [23:37] bodhi_zazen, dude i totally forgot, it was mega important though. [23:37] hellou, Hellow? [23:38] i'll remember to tell him that paultag [23:38] hellou, no no, are you Hellow? [23:38] paultag, how's whube? [23:38] nope. [23:38] Noted :) [23:38] k, boot screen fixed but now my windows are randomly closing [23:38] hellou, Whube is coming along. Hows things? [23:39] p good. going to start playing with coldfusion in a bit. [23:39] finally got it working on cherokee [23:39] screwedmybootnom: As silly as it sounds, try restarting (if you haven't already). [23:39] unfortunately, i don't think this is related; i run conky and tried out gnome-do/docky [23:40] and they both would randomly close; however, now xchat is doing it as well [23:40] paultag, you still a master thingy? [23:40] here? [23:40] ran conky from a term cause i couldn't find it in my menu, and no errors, close notification, etc would show up [23:41] OH bodhi_zazen [23:41] i was going to ask you about pikwi [23:41] piwik* [23:42] i installed it on my server, and for some reason it's slow as hell. i don't know if it's my PHP config or not but it's seriously really bad [23:42] screwedmybootnom: Well, we should take this one step at a time. If we can get it back to the old problems only, it will likely be easier to fix [23:42] hellou, montel, leave. [23:43] what? [23:43] k sounds good. as far as i can tell, boot screen is fixed; the resolution is odd but it starts, no hanging, i get to my log on no prob [23:44] screwedmyboot: Do you have an Nvidia card with Nvidia drivers? There are problems with Plymouth and some configs/ [23:45] ahhh. yes, yes i do. geforce gt 130m. stopped using ubuntu for karmic because of it, and networking problems [23:45] Awesome. Thanks again people. [23:45] had to edit my xorg.conf to get my card working in another distro [23:46] Not familiar with pikwi, but I can optimize your server [23:46] all in need is ssh + the root pw =) [23:47] is it possible to get Empathy to run Skype? [23:48] i'm getting nautilus errors in my .xsession-errors "libubuntulooks.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32" [23:48] screwedmybootnom: Give me a minute, I'll find the fix [23:49] You usually get those errors when running 64 bit apps on a 32 bit OS [23:49] or versa visa [23:49] what about the reverse? [23:49] ahhh, ok. [23:50] It says 32 , what is the output of "uname -m" ? [23:50] i'm running the 64-bit version [23:50] There you go =) [23:50] apt-get install ia32 [23:51] screwedmyboot: As far as the Plymouth problem goes, see here http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/how-to-get-plymouth-working-with-nvidia.html [23:51] thanks! [23:51] http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ia32-libs [23:51] I'll be right back everyone [23:52] Jon_Monreal: there is an easier way, Install Fedora 13 =) [23:52] Fedora works with nvidia cards out of the box [23:52] really? tried 12 and it froze [23:53] fedora uses nouveau , and I was having problems with my nvidia card w/ Windows (XP) and Ubuntu, Fedora works, of course no 3d , but at least we have X [23:54] YMMV of course [23:54] lemme look at my notes real quick, i'll try an find the fix i used; it was pretty simple code [23:56] had to edit xorg.conf: "Device" section, enter a new Option, set "ModeValidation" to "NoTotalSizeCheck" [23:56] my problem was that i'd get 6 screens if i enabled my card [23:58] ok, i'm not finding the package with terminal [23:59] sorry...ia32 is the package