[02:41] <Pwen> hi all
[02:42] <Pwen> I just dist-upgraded 9.10 to 10.04 and it worked. then update manager said I had some packages to upgrade. so I did and it uninstalled my nvidia binary blob. now I cant install it again. ideas?
[02:42] <Pwen> exact message is: No candidate version found for nvidia-glx-195
[02:43] <Pwen> I had previously been using the custom mythtv & driver builds from avenard.org, but they were superseded by the update to 10.04 AFAIK
[02:43] <Zinn> [avenard.org] Jean-Yves' Avenard Home Page
[03:11] <Pwen> ok, the problem is now, apparently, when I reboot the system with my TV off, x complains of no displays. how can I override this?
[04:06] <Jester05> hello guys
[04:06] <Jester05> so, upgraded from mythbuntu 9.10 to 10.04 and after a few configuration changes and reboots, IT'S ALIVE!!!
[04:24] <Chaorain> hey, just setup Mythbuntu ontop of 10.04 and live tv iss really dark. How can I fix this?
[04:25] <Jester05> should be in the utilities/settings
[04:25] <Jester05> idk exactly where th o
[04:25] <Jester05> tho*
[04:26] <Chaorain> I found "Enable picture controls" but activaing it didn't seem to do anything
[04:29] <Chaorain> pressing G while watching tv cycles through some settings all at -1%
[04:29] <Jester05> screen wizard?
[04:29] <Chaorain> screen wizard?
[04:29] <Chaorain> whats that?
[04:30] <Jester05> utilities -> setup -> screen setup wizard
[04:32] <Chaorain> that seems to just adjust screen size
[04:33] <Jester05> hmm
[04:33] <Jester05> idk man
[04:43] <Chaorain> Jester05: Got it, Monitor brightness
[04:44] <Jester05> haha really
[08:44] <Pwen> hi all, I am having trouble since dist-upgrading 9.10 to 10.04. my frontend cannot connect to my backend, nor can mythfilldatabase run. it seems to pause on New DB connection, total: 1 - checking mythbackend.log reveals: MainServer, Warning: Unknown socket closing MythSocket(0x8dd81b0)
[08:44] <Pwen> what would cause this? thanks
[13:20] <st8ofmi9d> I'm in the process of upgrading many of my systems to Ubunto 10.04. I noticed that when I install MythTV frontend through the 10.04 package manager that it  installs a newer version that is not compatible with my Mythbuntu 9.10 backend. How can I install an older version of MythTV frontend that is compatible with my backend until I can upgrade my backend?
[13:52] <mrand> st8ofmi9d: another choice is to enable auto-builds for 0.23 on the 9.10 system(s) until you can upgrade them to 10.04.
[13:52] <Demerzel> folks, as promised, here's the first in a 3 part series about creating a diskless frontend with lucid
[13:52] <Demerzel> http://learnonthejob.blogspot.com/2010/05/building-diskless-mythtv-frontend-with.html
[13:52] <Zinn> [learnonthejob.blogspot.com] Learning on the Job: Building a Diskless MythTV Frontend with Mythbuntu 10.04 - Lucid Lynx
[13:53] <st8ofmi9d> mrand: What is auto-builds? Where can I learn more about it?
[13:53] <Demerzel> i'll add the other pieces as the week continues
[13:53] <mrand> !auto-builds
[13:53] <Zinn> Auto builds contain more recent bug fixes than the normal Ubuntu repository contains.  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[13:53] <mrand> st8ofmi9d: ^
[13:54] <st8ofmi9d> mrand: Thank you. So auto-builds will updrage my 9.10 to the latest verstion of MythTV so it'll work with my front ends?
[13:56] <mrand> st8ofmi9d: yes... it should.  You might have to enable auto-builds on the 10.04 system as well (which I'd personally recommend anyway - it has a number of stabilizing bug fixes).
[13:56] <mrand> Demerzel: awesome!  Do you have any interest in placing it directly into the Mythbuntu wiki?  I could see it fitting under either how-to or installation http://www.mythbuntu.org/wiki
[13:56] <Demerzel> mrand: sure ... let me finish the series first and then we can figure out how to place it in there
[13:57] <Demerzel> i also mentioned that i could write up a script to automate the process somewhat
[13:57] <mrand> Demerzel: Your efforts on this will be widely appreciated.  Many requests per month for that.
[13:58] <Demerzel> that'll be after the article is done too
[13:58] <Demerzel> articles i.e.
[13:58] <mrand> Demerzel: a script would be cool, especially if it can be easily called from MCC.
[13:58] <Demerzel> that's the thought although I'll focus on getting a commandline script done first and then worry about how to interface it with MCC
[13:59] <mrand> Demerzel: Makes perfect sense.
[13:59] <mrand> That's the approach I would take as well
[14:03] <Demerzel> aight i'll bbl
[15:13] <funsheep> hi, i initiated an update through the update manager a couple of hours ago. After that the plugins mythvideo, mythgallery and mythmusic stopped working. MythGallery complained about a wrong version of mythtv to be used with. Did anybody else have these problems?
[15:15] <mrand> hmmm... perhaps a conflict with mythflix still being installed or something (which has been discontinued)?   You might get more info if you command the upgrade from the command line.
[15:16] <funsheep> the update went through without problems
[15:17] <funsheep> i just used the update manager of ubuntu. mythtv also starts, but when trying to access one of the plugins they either do nothing (i.e. enter does nothing) or, like mythgallery complains being used with the wrong version
[15:17] <mrand> So what versions of mythgallery, mythvideo, and mythfrontend are installed?
[15:18] <funsheep> 0.23-fixes
[15:18] <funsheep> i use the autobuild repository
[15:18] <mrand> sorry, I should be more specific.  After 0.23-fixes, there is a revision number
[15:19] <mrand> Also, please check and see if mythflix is installed.  If so, you'll need to remove it.
[15:28] <funsheep> sorry, my wife is calling. ill come back later. thanks for the first suggestions
[16:38] <wsuetholz> Hello,
[16:38] <wsuetholz> If I want to upgrade to 10.04, how do I deal with the netboot frontends?
[16:59] <st8ofmi9d> wsuetholz: Demerzel posted this link a few hours earlier. http://learnonthejob.blogspot.com/2010/05/building-diskless-mythtv-frontend-with.html
[16:59] <Zinn> [learnonthejob.blogspot.com] Learning on the Job: Building a Diskless MythTV Frontend with Mythbuntu 10.04 - Lucid Lynx
[17:25] <chiluk> What is the best way to back up the mythtv database for upgrade accross version numbers .22 -> .23
[17:25] <chiluk> I have a feeling there's a lot of stale or bad data in my database, and I'd prefer to save as little as possible.
[17:26] <chiluk> wait check that.
[17:26] <chiluk> I'd like to validate all data in the database before upgrading.  Then back it up.  What's the best way to do that.
[17:28] <mrand> chiluk: what kind of validation did you have in mind?  In general, if myth isn't complaining about the database, there is nothing wrong with it.  The upstream mythtv developers strongly prefer that you use the backup and restore scripts outlined here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore  Having said that, a backup is automatically created on upgrades and stored away somewhere in /var
[17:29] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Database Backup and Restore - MythTV
[17:29] <chiluk> that's what I figured you guys would point to.
[17:30] <chiluk> I guess I just hate black boxes.  I should probably go read the code.
[17:30] <mrand> chiluk: no harm in doing that... do both, in fact!  Manually run the script, then do a backup yourself, and then save those off and let myth handle the upgrade (and create another backup in the process).
[17:35] <chiluk> so thanks guys. I'll be back on in a sec.
[17:36] <tgm4883> heh
[17:36] <tgm4883> then he really is going to hate the black box that is mythbuntu-backup-restore
[17:40] <mrand> heh.  We were in the loco channel talking myth and then he popped over here.
[17:40] <mrand> So there is at least one other mythbuntu user in Texas.
[17:41] <rhpot1991> and I know of at least one in PA
[17:41] <rhpot1991> therefor we are a success
[17:44] <tgm4883> There are other in Oregon
[17:44] <tgm4883> and a local computer shop apparently sells a Mythbuntu box
[17:44] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: like they have one that they constantly sell, or they had one on a shelf for 3 years and no one bought it?
[17:45] <mrand> rhpot1991: selling the same one over and over would be the same as it sitting on the shelf for 3 years.
[17:45]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[17:45] <tgm4883> I haven't been in the store, a coworker told me about it
[17:45] <tgm4883> I really need to head in there and take a look
[17:46] <mrand> Be sure to wear your developer shirt
[17:46] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: you may be disapointed when you find an 8 year old box with a happauge pvr-150 in it
[17:46] <tgm4883> I will
[17:47] <tgm4883> I was wearing it the day he told me about it
[17:47] <tgm4883> rhpot1991, apparently its a small box, a little larger than a mac min
[17:47] <tgm4883> minii
[17:47] <rhpot1991> interesting, wonder what tuner they have in it then
[18:56] <wsuetholz> Zinn: while that is a decent explanation..  Not complete, but decent.  It doesn't address my question at all.
[18:56] <Zinn> Hi wsuetholz, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[18:57] <tgm4883> wsuetholz, I think you are looking for st8ofmi9d
[18:57] <wsuetholz> I have working 9.10 netboot frontends?  What is the proper way to upgrade them when upgrading the backend?
[18:57]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[18:57] <tgm4883> I don't use diskless
[18:58] <wsuetholz> Yes, well I'm trying to get new frontends setup that are using a 16GB SSD instead, but the darn thing is locking up in myth..
[18:59] <wsuetholz> Foxconn NT330i, which is a nice sized NVidia ION/Atom 330 device
[20:17] <qwebirc23296> hi all
[20:17] <qwebirc23296> ive just installes mythbuntu and have a phillips DVB-T tuner card, but it cant find any channel :( what can i do about that?
[20:17] <qwebirc23296> i dont know what to do
[20:18] <qwebirc23296> and is there any guide about how to set up my LIRC COM1 (UART) device?
[20:19] <mrand> qwebirc23296: tuner and scanner questions are typically better answered by searching the forums, mailing list, or asking on #mythtv-users (there are a number of ways to do it wrong)
[20:21] <qwebirc23296> thanks
[20:21] <qwebirc23296> isnt there any guide anywhere?
[20:23] <mrand> A guide for tuner/scanner config?  Not that I know of, but I might not be up-to-date... #mythtv-users would know for sure.
[20:24] <qwebirc23296> can you tell me which network this here is? its not listet on the page, thats why im in the web client
[20:25] <rhpot1991> qwebirc23296: freenode
[20:25] <mrand> freenode network
[20:28] <qwebirc23296> and while were at it: can you tell me where to configure my IR receiver?
[20:28] <qwebirc23296> and where to set the buttons for the remote, etc
[20:29] <rhpot1991> qwebirc23296: its automagically generated, if you want to tweak them you have 2 options, you can change what the buttons do in mythtv, or modify ~/.lirc/mythtv
[20:30] <qwebirc23296> does it find my UART receiver? because my remote doesnt work atm
[20:34] <rhpot1991> qwebirc23296: you need to select your remote in MCC and if it is in there it will generate the buttons
[20:45] <qwebirc23296> it isnt
[21:57] <slaine> anyone having problems with xmltv's uk_rt grabber ?
[21:58] <slaine> I'm seeing date problems, which I thought had been fixed upstream.
[21:58] <slaine> XMLTV requires a Date::Manip timezone of +0000 to work properly.
[21:58] <slaine> Current Date::Manip timezone is 1.
[22:01] <slaine> hmmm, seems to be a known bug
[22:01] <slaine> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmltv/+bug/544522
[22:01] <Zinn> [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #544522 in xmltv (Ubuntu): “[lucid] latest version of Date::Manip breaks tv_grab_uk_rt ”
[22:02] <slaine> snap :)
[22:02] <slaine> fixed a month ago though
[22:27] <mrand> slaine: it was fixed in debian a month ago, which was after the ubuntu freeze.
[22:30] <slaine> Ah, after the freeze
[22:31] <slaine> how long before the upstream churn gets into lucid's updates then ?
[22:31] <slaine> the freeze is usually lifted after a week or so post release isn't it ?
[22:33] <tgm4883> slaine, IIRC, there needs to be a request for it
[22:33] <tgm4883> there isn't an auto-pull from debian anymore
[22:34] <slaine> I assume that's upto dave walker then
[22:34] <slaine> seeing as he's the owner of the launchpad bug above ?
[22:34] <slaine> I guess I'll just go grab the latest cvs of xmltv then
[22:34] <mrand> slaine: yes, he's well aware of the issue - it affects him (or did, at least)
[22:35] <slaine> nod, I'm just saying that it's probably up to him to make the pull request ?
[22:35]  * slaine isn't too familiar with the policies
[22:35] <mrand> He actually already has.
[22:35] <slaine> cool
[22:35] <mrand> The question is, after it lands in maveric (10.10), does it get pulled back into lucid somehow or not.
[22:35] <slaine> I'll hang on them
[22:35] <mrand> Unknown timeframe right now.
[22:36] <slaine> hmmm
[22:36] <slaine> would have thought it was a big enough bug for the mythbuntu guys
[22:36] <slaine> affects UK and Eire
[22:36] <mrand> yeah, it was just discovered late, and then it looked like the fix might go into debian, but that happened late.  Kinda a perfect storm.
[22:37] <slaine> I'll pull from CVS to get my system working for now then and I'll keep an eye out for the updates
[22:37] <mrand> understandable.
[22:37] <slaine> or I suppose I could just grab the xmltv debian source package
[22:37] <mrand> yep
[22:38] <slaine> never really done much repackaging under ubuntu, I'm more of a fedora man by day ;)