[13:57] <rlameiro> afternon
[13:57] <astraljava> o/
[13:58] <rlameiro> :D
[17:24] <squarebracket> anything i should know before i upgrade?
[17:27] <astraljava> squarebracket: That you have made good backups of your /home and other valuable data?
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[20:39] <bloom> hi
[20:40] <bloom> problems with ubuntu studio and hp dv6 1350sl
[20:40] <bloom> hangs up at start
[20:41] <bloom> can anyone help me?
[20:49] <holstein> hey bloom
[20:49] <holstein> is this lucid?
[20:49] <holstein> karmic?
[20:57] <bloom> all of two
[20:57] <bloom> 10.04 what is?
[20:57] <bloom> i'm really desperate
[20:57] <bloom> between parenthesis
[20:58] <bloom> i used cracked cubase with cracked reason on my company's pc with xp
[20:59] <bloom> but after i change company and they take back the notebook
[20:59] <bloom> so after i buy a notebook
[20:59] <bloom> this notebook
[20:59] <bloom> with winzozz 7
[20:59] <_guitarman_> where does it hang on boot?
[21:00] <_guitarman_> booting into win7 or ubuntu
[21:00] <bloom> but winzozz 7 hates my cracked cubase
[21:00] <bloom> ubuntu obviously
[21:00] <bloom> loading the kernel
[21:00] <_guitarman_> realtime?
[21:00] <bloom> after the b43 drivers
[21:00] <_guitarman_> or generic
[21:00] <bloom> realtime 64bit
[21:00] <_guitarman_> try the generic boot
[21:01] <_guitarman_> generic kernel boot
[21:01] <bloom> ubuntustudio has the realtime kernel by default or not?
[21:01] <_guitarman_> nope
[21:01] <_guitarman_> generic
[21:01] <bloom> mmm
[21:01] <bloom> really?
[21:01] <_guitarman_> should be - it was on mine
[21:02] <bloom> but doesn't jack need the realtime one?
[21:02] <_guitarman_> do you see the grub menu on boot?
[21:02] <bloom> yes
[21:02] <_guitarman_> bloom: there is a difference between realtime kernel and realtime privs for an app
[21:02] <_guitarman_> you can run jack in realtime in a generic kernel
[21:02] <_guitarman_> try that first
[21:02] <bloom> really i m trying now to install the 32bit version
[21:02] <_guitarman_> oh ...
[21:02] <_guitarman_> 32 bit 10.04?
[21:02] <_guitarman_> lucid ubuntustudio?
[21:02] <bloom> yes
[21:03] <_guitarman_> ah good
[21:03] <bloom> i downloaded all of two
[21:03] <_guitarman_> right.
[21:03] <bloom> but i suppose that on core duo it's better the 64bit version
[21:03] <_guitarman_> dunno. i run 32bit
[21:04] <bloom> really my problems like musician are far beyond these
[21:04] <bloom> the driver for tascam fw1804 doesn't exist
[21:05] <bloom> but in that pc i'm not able to install the system
[21:05] <bloom> the funny thing is that i'm an engineer and i do the programmer
[21:05] <bloom> :)
[21:06] <_guitarman_> heheh doesn't mean you don't get annoyed and not want to deal with a install that didn't work
[21:07] <bloom> that's true
[21:07] <bloom> :P
[21:08] <bloom> i wait now to finish the i386 install and try this
[21:08] <_guitarman_> you are just hoping to use onboard sound?
[21:08] <_guitarman_> not your tascam right=
[21:09] <bloom> tascam is firewire
[21:09] <bloom> it would be good if i could give a hand for writing the driver
[21:10] <bloom> i have also a edirol ua25ex
[21:10] <bloom> i tried ubuntustudio on my eeepc
[21:10] <bloom> and the edirol board (usb) goes
[21:11] <_guitarman_> oh good - it works
[21:11] <bloom> i don't loose so much time to configure it cause on eeepc it was unusable
[21:11] <bloom> too much slow
[21:12] <_guitarman_> yeah thats the processor and ram in those things
[21:12] <_guitarman_> too wimpy
[21:12] <_guitarman_> i edit a podcast on my hp mininote
[21:12] <bloom> but in general i find it more slow and heavy than xp
[21:13] <_guitarman_> ubuntustudio?
[21:13] <bloom> i tried also on a pentium4 with 2.8ghz
[21:13] <bloom> yes
[21:13] <_guitarman_> hmmm, well - think of it this way.
[21:14] <bloom> the first impression was that it's a little bit immature, from a user perspective
[21:14] <_guitarman_> here's a question for you bloom
[21:14] <_guitarman_> can you broadcast your recording session as you are making it under windows xp?
[21:14] <_guitarman_> not through webcam or whatever
[21:14] <bloom> yes
[21:14] <bloom> but
[21:15] <_guitarman_> what software?
[21:15] <bloom> no, i don't know
[21:15] <bloom> and i love linux
[21:15] <bloom> i use only that system
[21:15] <bloom> on work or at home
[21:15] <bloom> i do a question back to you
[21:16] <_guitarman_> yeah.  its not perfect, but there is power in linux audio
[21:16] <_guitarman_> it is coming along. and i choose to use it even if some of it is unpolished
[21:16] <_guitarman_> because the quality of some of it is very good.
[21:16] <bloom> can you record midi and audio with the best linux software ?
[21:16] <bloom> ardour i think
[21:16] <_guitarman_> i really like ardour and the plugins, and hydrogen is a easy drum machine
[21:16] <_guitarman_> no
[21:17] <_guitarman_> bloom: if you must do midi and audio, use qtractor
[21:17] <_guitarman_> if you are willing to do it all audio route midi into softsynth and that as an audio input in ardour then go ardour
[21:17] <bloom> with cubase you can, and it is so useful
[21:17] <bloom> yeah i have to experiment
[21:17] <_guitarman_> yes this is a weak point currently - qtractor is the most useful for this now
[21:17] <_guitarman_> ardour 3.0 in development will solve this but its not ready at all now
[21:18] <bloom> i heard rumours that in the next version of ardour... exactly
[21:18] <_guitarman_> yes
[21:18] <_guitarman_> its true
[21:18] <_guitarman_> its in the works
[21:18] <_guitarman_> and apparently its looking really good
[21:18] <bloom> i think that a couple of years and it surpassess all proprietary systems
[21:19] <bloom> i tried ableton live past few weeks
[21:20] <bloom> we wanted to sync two pcs with midi
[21:20] <bloom> i don't tell you the pain with win7 and drivers
[21:20] <bloom> all my audiocards doesn't work
[21:21] <bloom> to start the drivers you have to press f8 at the start everytime and choose to disable the digital sign control for drivers
[21:22] <bloom> and i notice that midi sync was very unprecise
[21:22] <_guitarman_> bloom: i dont doubt it - i do tech support for windows apps
[21:22] <bloom> i just wonder to write a sync for apps using a lan
[21:23] <bloom> the point is that with gnu/linux you can do such these things
[21:25] <bloom> ok it installs grub
[21:26] <_guitarman_> yeah - thats why i like to run under this platform
[21:26] <bloom> kernel now seems to be 2.6.32-21 generic
[21:26] <_guitarman_> yup
[21:26] <_guitarman_> thats as expected
[21:26] <bloom> it's the menu on grub
[21:27] <_guitarman_> choose that
[21:27] <bloom> oh yeah it starts
[21:27] <_guitarman_> dont bother installing linux-rt like you might have done in the past
[21:27] <bloom> maybe it was 64bit version
[21:27] <_guitarman_> you will need to install the ppa for the kernels that build on the current generic kernels
[21:27] <bloom> that don't go
[21:28] <_guitarman_> the linux-rt in the repo of this is the rt kernel from karmic
[21:28] <_guitarman_> so need ppa ... but try with generic first - it performs pretty decently
[21:28] <bloom> yes
[21:28] <bloom> optimization after
[21:28] <_guitarman_> yup
[21:28] <_guitarman_> get things working first
[21:29] <bloom> yez i'll play around with the various software for a little bit
[21:30] <bloom> and take docs to  see how help for the tascam drivers
[21:53] <RemunJ66> See you. Have a good sleep.
[22:22] <ronj> Hello. I noticed 10.04 has two realtime packages, linux-realtime and linux-rt. I did as usual and installed -rt, which works fine with jack so far. However, could somebody explain me the difference or point me to somewhere it's explained? Didn't find anything.
[22:44] <bloom> hey jackbeat doesn't work in 10.04 i386
[22:44] <bloom> ??
[23:08] <holstein> ronj: thats a great question
[23:08] <holstein> i dont have the answer to that right now
[23:09] <holstein> BUT that is on my list of things to find an answer soon
[23:09] <ronj> :P
[23:09] <ronj> maybe a new method to reach low latencies without the big RT patch
[23:09] <ronj> maybe a plan to CONQUER THE WORLD