[00:00] this is lovely [00:01] lucid, recovery mode, hardlocked with init ureadahead error-other [00:01] seams that ntfs3g isnt a part of the kernel ?! === konni is now known as Blues- [00:36] What are the differences between Kubuntu and Kubuntu Netbook (beyond the netbook launcher)? === DT[AtWork] is now known as DT` [00:38] I just upped to lucid and with every notification a 'recent notification' window also pops up . annoying. how can i make it go away? [00:47] After upgrading to the latest kubuntu release, my ability to send screen ouput to another VGA device is lost. Pressing Fn+F8 does nothing. Any ideas? [00:49] hello [00:49] i have a problem [00:49] with my kubuntu [00:49] Me too [00:53] After upgrading to 10.04 LTS, I am unable to send screen output through the VGA port to another device. Any ideas? [00:55] terry_, which graphics card? [00:57] nvidia [00:59] terry_, you may need to upgrade the driver [01:00] How can I tell which driver I have? [01:06] my system is not detected my second monitor, how can I check what drivers its using? === codolio is now known as dolio === shadowmaster is now known as Kuchen === jupiter is now known as Guest45502 [01:29] my mouse went crazy since i updated to lucid :( === mejia is now known as minikiko10 [01:39] my pointer moves [01:39] but it does not click:( [01:41] Is there any way of running a Gnome panel applet on a KDE4 panel? [01:42] The two are too different, so it cannot be done. Which applet are you thinking of, though? It's possible that there's a Plasma widget that accomplishes the same thing [01:42] gcdemu [01:42] nothing came up in a simple apt-cache search [01:43] (nothing KDE-related, anyhow) [01:45] and gcdemu is a front end for the cdemu binary from "cdemu-client"; and shows status of loaded CDs, and allows loading of CD images. (open, find, select) [01:47] I don't think there's a panel applet for that, per se. Maybe something like acetoneiso would be a suitable KDE replacement? [01:48] (I've not used it, but I know it does iso mounting) [01:48] hmmmm. [01:49] might be an option. I just hope it's as light as cdemu === Kuchen is now known as shadowmaster [01:49] That's one thing I have to say for gnome, for me at least it just seems to "fit" together well, and seems lower loading than KDE. [01:49] [01:49] As long as acetone can get things mounted like a real device, you'd probably be able to control mounting/ejecting from the existing KDE device notifier in the system tray [01:50] mmm. Does it handle multi-session? [01:50] err, sorry, mixed-mode CDs? [01:51] The device notifier? I'd doubt it. Mainly, it handles notification of newly-plugged removable devices, and offers unmount/eject actions for these [01:51] as well as options for opening the devices [01:58] Good luck, anyways. I have a show to catch. ;) [02:11] hello, i just followed the instructions to install 64 bit flash. it plays video but no sound. whats up with that? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === matt_ is now known as Guest27386 [03:14] have there been any bug fixes since the day of the lucid lynx release? upon running "sudo aptitude update" i've gotten a grand total of one update since last thursday [03:28] umm, no comments in over an hour? [03:28] is something wrong with my 10.04 IRC client? :) [03:28] that how the kunutu channel rolls :) [03:29] jimmy51, i just pretty much logged in tonight [03:29] must not be any bugs in 10.04. [03:29] either that, or they're so serious no one can connect to irc [03:29] nno i've been in and out all day in irc [03:29] I am trying to decide now when I put my linux drive back in my laptop if i wanna install ubuntu or kubuntu [03:30] darkdelusions: Kubuntu [03:30] then again, i'm in #kubuntu so i might be biased [03:30] jimmy51 it my flavor of choice tbh [03:30] darkdelusions, im thinking on at least installing ubuntu-desktop as well though [03:31] I am not sure if i wanna go threw the hassel thou of trying to configure mumbler (linux vent client) to use alsa instead of pluse [03:31] I just really dislike the gnome interface [03:32] me too [03:32] can't beat kde4 [03:32] !flash [03:32] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [03:32] See I didnt like kde 5 at first [03:32] err [03:32] 4 [03:33] then it grew on me [03:33] have you guys updated to 10.4 yet? and other then grub issue have you guy run to alot of issues? [03:35] i didn't like the first version, but my complaints were pretty much fixed by the time 9.10 came out [03:36] i updated to 10.04 from 9.10 and everything worked except for my 3d drivers. [03:36] i was running a self compiled version of the nvidia driver and it wrecked things pretty bad [03:36] i dont really every upgrade I generally just wipe my root parition and reinstall [03:36] that's what i ended up doing [03:37] everytime i have attempted to upgrade horrable things have happened [03:37] i had been upgrading since 6.10 ot 7.04 (i don't remember) and decided it was time for a fresh install [03:37] hehe [03:37] fresh is better, if you can deal with it [03:37] its not that big of a deal [03:37] my wife just came in with the baby, time to go [03:37] good luck with kubuntu on the laptop [03:37] later jim [03:38] I see some of my issues got fixed in 10.4 which is nice [03:38] like jack sensing for my motherboard [03:38] and the asus light sensor issue [03:41] my newly installed kubuntu10.04 will occasionally auto-logoff, even auto shutdown, how can I check what is the problem (i.e. what log file shall I check)? thanks [03:59] ktorrent interface changed a bit [04:05] i am currently running kubuntu 9.04. I have downloaded the 10.04 disk, and want to upgrade my system... any pointers on how to do this? [04:05] njathan: you have the live cd? [04:05] dolomite: i have both live and alternate CD [04:06] use the alternate cd [04:07] dolomite: ok... and change the apt repos? [04:07] dolomite: right now my system only gives me the option to upgrade to 9.10 [04:08] njathan, you have to go to that first [04:08] njathan https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades/Kubuntu [04:08] unless you wish to fresh install that is, or have a separate home partition [04:09] brasil? [04:09] !br [04:09] Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [04:10] njathan, can I interest you in a fresh install? [04:10] can I lower nepomuk aggressiveness? [04:10] cjae: you can disable it [04:11] thats it [04:11] cjae: all available settings are in system settings>advanced tab>desktop indexing [04:11] dolomite: bazhang: i have a seperate home & var partitions, but would still like to keep a fresh install as the last option.. [04:12] needs a startup icon so I can start and stop from there [04:12] njathan: you'll need to upgrade to 9.10 first. then you can follow my link up there. [04:12] cjae: I think you can from the tray icon for strigi [04:13] I'm not on my kubuntu machine right now; can't check [04:14] anyone else know how to get strigi startup icon [04:14] dolomite: but 9.10 does not work on my laptop :-( i had to downgrade & reinstall 9.04 last time i tried 9.10 [04:14] njathan: will it work long enough to run the installer for 10.04? [04:15] dolomite: thanks btw [04:16] cjae: have fun [04:16] dolomite: if the system requires a reboot after upgrading to 9.10, then i'll never get to even the command line [04:18] Anyone else having firefox use a bunch of resources when not even open [04:18] possibly after last closing it [04:19] njathan: have you looked at the link I sent you? the more I research, the less confident I am that you can't upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04 [04:19] cjae: you've closed the browser and it's using up resources? [04:20] dolomite: i am looking at it... trying a hand at 'mount -o loop alternate-cd' to try out stuff [04:21] well I just assumed it was strigi indexing but I have been away from this box for awhile and after I stopped strigi it was still happening and a check of system monitor showed firefox using 45% of cpu [04:21] njathan: I say you just give the upgrade a shot. I think if it worked from 9.10 it'll work for 9.04 [04:21] but no open instances of firefox running [04:22] cjae: weird. if you kill the process then open and close firefox, does it happen again? [04:22] in other words, is it consistently doing this? [04:22] dolomite: havent got there yet, was just pondering possibilities first [04:23] ok. I haven't heard of that happening [04:25] Can someone confirm if upgrading kubuntu from 9.04 to 9.10 requires a system reboot? [04:26] * cjae really wishes konqueror was more compatible [04:27] njathan: yes of course..what kde version you have in 9.04? [04:27] lucitu: 4.2.2 [04:29] njathan: ok..good. but suggest you do it in recovery mode because it will kill the X server and my experience is there is no way to get it back === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [04:30] lucitu: njathan is wondering whether or not he can upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04. it's possible isn't it? [04:31] dolomite: wondering if it was something to do with strigi and firefox? [04:31] dolomite: njathan: it's possible but you may have to do some light lifting..:) i think you may have to upgrade first the libc6 and/or the util-linux? [04:31] cjae: you know what strigi is right? I'm not sure it would conflict the way you're reporting [04:32] lucitu: njathan: my suggestion was to upgrade first to 9.10 then to 10.04 but apparently 9.04 breaks njathan's laptop [04:32] dolomite: correction... 9.10 breaks it [04:32] is anyone familiar with this XChat program? how can I get the autofill with the tab key to work? [04:33] njathan: noted. sorry. [04:33] njathan: my take is a fresh install for 10.04..save your data and/or home if separate === hades is now known as Guest87771 [04:34] Can someone explain to me (as a new KDE user) the purpose of those buttons in the upper right and left corners, and can I rid my screen of them? [04:35] njathan: you mentioned earlier that clean install is a last resort; any reason why if you already have separate partitions? [04:35] mawst: those are part of your plasma desktop. try adding some widgets. kde 4 is for fun! [04:36] dolomite: yes I know what strigi is, I am saying there might be a conflict between programs [04:37] cjae: you could run firefox from a terminal and, when you close it, see why the process would linger [04:37] dolomite: plus I think this is a serious issue since a look at kern.log shows my cpu at very high temp, what if I had not woke up and noticed [04:38] what was that browser based on Konqueror that is faster and nice? [04:38] dolomite: the concerns are not really major ones... except i have to fight to get the wireless working again.. (i had a nightmare to get it working in 9.04) [04:38] ArkoldThos_: rekonq? [04:38] lucitu, thanks :D [04:38] cjae: I'd recommend doing some googling or asking around here. [04:38] ArkoldThos_: np === ArkoldThos_ is now known as ArkoldThos [04:39] njathan: nightmare with wireless is guaranteed in 10.04 but there's plenty of documentation! [04:40] anyone know how i can watch divx vid's on chrome? [04:40] did they ever change kubuntu to use pluse audio or no? [04:41] kmixer [04:41] dolomite: yeah.. i kinda experienced it in the 10.04 live CD.. the 'nightmare' part i mean :-p [04:42] njathan: it's always hit-or-miss. I wouldn't let it hold you back from the upgrade. [04:44] dolomite: hmm... alright then... going for the upgrade right now.... see you on a 10.04 :-) [04:44] njathan: have fun! let us try to help you if you need it. [04:44] dolomite: thanks! [04:49] is anyone using xchat as their irc client? [04:49] dolomite: yes [04:50] usually I'm on my kubuntu machine so I'm not using xchat. how can I enable that nifty "autofill with TAB" feature? [04:51] (autofill usernames) [04:54] bootstrap: the setting in preferences didn't do the trick so that's why I'm asking [04:54] um, I'm confused, are you on xchat now? [04:54] yep [04:55] doleyb: [04:55] it is working for me [04:55] by default, [04:55] you enabled it in the preferences? [04:55] i don't use it, but it is on, let me look [04:56] bootstrap: nevermind, it does work; it's just less user friendly than my irc client in kubuntu [04:56] it shouldn't be, what are you on [04:57] crunchbang. it requires that I begin typing the name and then it'll consider auto-completing [04:58] yeah, that is what I have always experienced with it [04:58] hallo spricht hier jemand deutsch [04:58] !de [04:58] In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [04:59] ex: if i just hit 'b' then tab, i will get a list of all the 'b' usernames [04:59] What is the command to take a program you opened through terminal and make it independant so you can close terminal without closing the terminal? [04:59] the program* [04:59] bootstrap: not a major issue but in kubuntu, the default IRC client will just cycle through last-used names [04:59] wllkmbl [05:00] wllkmbll: try running the program from alt+f2 instead [05:00] I can't, it's vncviewer, and it needs terminal input for the server and password first. [05:01] wllkmbll: so if you run it independently of the terminal, you can't input server/pass? [05:01] I type it in alt-f2, but when I press enter nothing happens. [05:02] nvm, it worked this time for some reason [05:02] thanks [05:02] ;) [05:20] Anyone else running 10.04 so that you can open firefox and see if killall firefox works in terminal [05:21] mine says no process found when it is clearly open [05:21] look for firefox-bin [05:21] cjae: perform ps -u [05:21] cjae: then kill the PID [05:22] dolomite: Viking667 thanks [05:23] yes sir/ma'am [05:24] How do I find what package a particular (old) library file is in? [05:25] I tried "apt-cache search libgtk-1.2.so" but got nothing back. [05:25] have you tried just searching in kpackagekit? [05:25] I'm not actually on the machine in question, I'm trying to do this through ssh. [05:26] using apt-cache searches for the package not the file [05:26] And I've never even seen kpackagekit [05:26] yeah, so I figured. [05:26] heh. Now someone has woken up over in #ubuntu [05:26] by kpackagekit, I just mean your package manager [05:27] *blink* *blink* [05:27] Viking667: oh, yeah. don't bug us [05:27] Right. It was a generic question that could have applied to either kubuntu or ubuntu [05:27] I'll try that. Thanks. [05:29] haha, I didn't help you. but you're welcome [05:31] dolomite_: actually, you did, sorta. I should have checked synaptic or aptitude first. [05:32] Viking667: always worth a shot! [05:36] hm. AS it was, synaptic turned up nothing. [05:36] sigh [05:37] Viking667: what about aptitude show [05:38] nup. "Unable to show ..." [05:39] Viking667: so you're just trying to upgrade or reinstall an existing lib file? [05:39] no? [05:39] I'm trying to _install_ it. [05:39] but it doesn't seem to be referred to by Ubuntu repositories any more... [05:40] what is it [05:40] at least, lucid doesn't show it, and I suspect that even karmic didn't. [05:40] Already mentioned it... libgtk-1.2.so [05:40] hang on a second [05:40] come to think of it, if that binary wants libgtk-1.2, no doubt it'll want other stuff of that era. [05:41] maco: what to? [05:41] AIEEEEEEEE... *splat* [05:42] i was doing a file search on packages.ubuntu.com [05:42] yeah libgtk-1.2.so doesnt exist as far as the package query site knows even as far back as dapper [05:43] I'm seeing it for gutsy [05:43] hmm? [05:43] haha; are you trying to run a game Viking667? [05:43] dolomite_: in what package? [05:43] in which repo? Can't be in main any more. [05:43] oh wait gutsy is gone [05:43] dolomite_: sorta. It's a game emulator. [05:44] ePSXe [05:44] gutsy is long gone, dudes [05:44] yeah. Gutsy died an honourable ... [05:44] well, it's gone. [05:44] so's Hoary, has'nt it? [05:44] dapper doesnt have it and neither does hardy. didnt expect it to appear post-dapper and be gone so soon [05:44] or is that the next one to get the gun? [05:44] hoary was in 2005 [05:45] sorry, meant hardy. [05:45] I forgot there'd been a Hoary way way back in the past [05:45] Given I started with Hoary... [05:45] Viking667: I think this might help you [05:45] mmmyes? [05:45] the next one to go eol will be jaunty [05:46] Is Intrepid one of those LTS versions? [05:46] no, hardy was [05:46] intrepid went eol last week [05:46] ah. [05:46] Viking667: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1341472&highlight=libgtk-1.2 [05:46] but hardy wasnt lts for kubuntu [05:46] just for ubuntu&server [05:46] Viking667: it's for 9.10 but it could help ya [05:47] *nod* [05:47] I just need for ubuntu [05:47] for ubuntu? [05:48] would be useful to remember for my wife's kubuntu machine too, if I come across some games that still want libgtk-1.2 [05:49] hmmm... actually.... I just realised. [05:49] Viking667: it's the same stuff [05:51] ooooooo lookie what I found on her machine... lol. [05:51] no need to get X-rated [05:51] Seems I copied over libraries from my Mandriva install... they seem to have worked for her. [05:52] I'll slurp them over here... I could use them. [05:53] Viking667: with this espxe, you can just put the playstation game into your disk drive? [05:55] don't know. I've used cdrdao to copy it on, including the subchannel [05:55] seems to work in pcsx, but gets only so far. [06:03] hi, is there a ralink IRC channel somewhere ? [06:03] I can't get my rt2870 to work on lucid :S [06:05] time I went and tried something else, I guess. [06:08] !ralink [06:08] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [06:08] !ralink | lyhana8 [06:08] lyhana8: please see above [06:12] dolomite_: nothing about the ralink rt2870 [06:13] dolomite_: it doesn't show up in `ifconfig` [06:14] lyhana8: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960642 [06:15] lyhana8: is it USB? this could help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960642 [06:15] yep it's USB [06:18] anyone able to help with some dri2 issues ? [06:19] dolomite_: can you resend the links, my laptop crashed~ [06:27] better yet, is there a way to just go back to 9, upgrading to 10.04 was a bad idea [06:30] anyone know how to remove the weird design from the bottom panel's background? [06:43] my wireless card doesn't show up [06:44] it's a ralink rt2870 [06:44] lyhana8: check in "Hardware drivers" from the K-menu [06:45] Captain_Haddock: XD I did that [06:46] `lshw -C network` show only my wired card. But when I do a `lsusb` I found the chip [06:49] lyhana8: do you have the modules for it? [06:49] here is the output of lsusb for my wireless card : http://pastebin.com/KFSU9tAH [06:50] frogonwheels: nop, how do I add it ? and which one I should use rt2870usb or rt2870sta ? [06:50] try sudo modprobe rt2870usb [06:50] none of them seem to load [06:51] frogonwheels: I found this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9236718 [06:53] frogonwheels: what am I supposed to do/see after adding the module ? [06:54] iwconfig and see if it's there [06:55] lyhana8: did you try the lsmod|grep rt thing? [06:55] lyhana8: I've had realtecs for a while. I used to have to download the module source and compile it - at least things have improved since then. [06:55] yep, the module is present now, but what next ? Is it supposed to enable my card ? [06:56] lyhana8: did iwconfig reveal anything? [06:56] yep, the wireless card is missing~ [06:57] do I need to restart after the `modprobe rt2870sta` ? [06:57] lyhana8: no [06:57] lyhana8: cat /proc/net/dev to see if there's really no device [06:58] looking for a wlan* most likely [06:58] frogonwheels: eth0, lo, no wlan0 or ra0 [06:59] anything in tail /var/log/kern.log that's related? [07:02] lyhana8: hmm.. did you try the *usb driver? [07:03] I tried rt2870sta, rt2800usb, rt2x00usb [07:04] and nothing in the kern.log? [07:04] frogonwheels: my kern.log : http://pastebin.com/JJxapTGQ [07:05] lyhana8: does iwconfig now see a interface ? [07:06] CartoonCat: nop, none of the 3 module I tried show anything [07:06] I got this card working on the beta2 with ndiswrapper but only on open network [07:06] sorry lyhana8, I'm out of ideas for the time being. [07:07] lyhana8: this a laptop or desktop? [07:07] CartoonCat: laptop, the chip is a ralink2870 I think i go through a MSI connector [07:08] lyhana8: I had a look at the log. seems to coroborate your story, that none of those drivers are discovering a device [07:08] frogonwheels: CartoonCat http://pastebin.com/KFSU9tAH [07:09] http://web.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html maybe? [07:10] lyhana8: if I were you, I would get a atheros setup (i replace with atheros cards) [07:10] lyhana8: just maybe not a ath9k one - ie not a wireless N. [07:11] any idea 4.4.3 when? [07:12] yes jsut not N [07:14] ath9k wireless N is on the way - but at the moment OpenWRT uses bleeding edge, and it works until it crashes, or reboots the machine [07:14] .. ubuntu doesn't even work. [07:15] whats beyond bleeding edge? thats where ath 11n support is at [07:15] ... well it's up to being bleeding edge now. [07:15] well, in ath9k. Ive got plenty of 11n radios chuging along [07:16] oh nice nice, that is marked improve ment [07:16] .. just not in ubuntu yet. and probably rightly so. [07:16] ive not bothered with linux + 11n for 6 months heheh [07:16] I've actually got another build ready to try now on openwrt :) [07:16] CartoonCat: frogonwheels this is my model, and it seem it can have 3 different wlan chip : http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=nbdriver&maincat_no=135&prod_no=1991 [07:17] gotta love those loose specs. [07:17] frogonwheels: mines a bit dated (re 6mo) [07:17] mine's probably from last week. [07:17] CartoonCat: frogonwheels mine is "msi Wireless Lan_3870 / 3871" [07:18] but how I am supposed to choose a pc when the spec are hide and even behind constructor codename~ [07:19] lyhana8: your pretty much stuck with ndis wrapper with that card for now [07:19] lyhana8: well, it takes lots of research to make sure of the hardware you get [07:21] mmm, must find ps3N promo codes [07:23] noob needs help!!! [07:24] wulfric: noob need explications !!! XD [07:24] wulfric: explain your problem [07:24] ntfs volumes ask for password everytime i boot [07:25] amarok loses touch of local collection which is on ntfs volume [07:25] .. then type it in... probablem solved :P [07:25] need to rescan collection everytime [07:26] @frogon ha ha noob not nuts [07:27] wulfric: type full names (use autocomplete) so it will be marked in the irc client. [07:27] sorry [07:27] wulfric: also, put your question on one line where you can :) [07:27] ok [07:28] wulfric: did you try -o username=,password= [07:29] where? [07:29] wulfric: is the volume in your fstab? [07:29] yes [07:29] ok, there's a column for options - try putting them in there. [07:33] is 4.43 will be on the backports? [07:33] *4.4.3 [07:34] @frogonwheels not on fstab its a different hard disk so automounted [07:36] sidHart: what is the launchpad page for the backport ? [07:36] lyhana8: ? [07:37] there is a launchpad ppa for KDE [07:37] lyhana8: ok..will check [07:39] lyhana8: nothing there [07:40] lyhana8: am curious bec just installed debian sid 4.4.3 and it's very quick..like to compare with kubuntu [07:42] significantly faster than 4.4.2 kubuntu [07:42] have you tried lenny ? [07:42] smokealot: lenny what? :) [07:43] sidHart: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa [07:43] Debian lenny ? [07:44] lyhana8: thanks much..that's what i'm looking for. [07:46] smokealot: nope..using Debian sid..why lenny when you can get squeeze? [07:46] :D [07:46] squeeze is not ready [07:46] to many bugs [07:47] i tried installin it it was going on 5 hours and running and i went back to lenny [07:47] would not install at all [07:53] hmm [07:54] I like sid more than testing :D [07:54] Bleeding-Edge :D [09:14] hi. in system settings>desktop>general which is the second voice? [09:14] something like "the composition is/is not enabled"... [09:16] every time i reboot i find this disabled by another application, but the system don't tell me which... [10:25] what about this cpu for ubuntu-serv.. no problem right? Intel Xeon W3540: QuadCore === ussher is now known as ussher_ === ussher_ is now known as ussher === ussher is now known as ussher_ [10:28] hello, i have skipe soundworking, but no sound whencall,taiped aplay -l it says card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC262 Analog [ALC262 Analog] [10:28] Subdevices: 1/1 [10:28] Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [10:28] card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem] [10:28] Subdevices: 1/1 [10:28] zita: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [10:28]