[00:02] ia32-libs [00:03] says it's already the newest version [00:04] Oh snap [00:05] What's the problem that installing ia32-libs was supposed to solve? [00:06] You're supposed to sorta compile some driver with it [00:06] uhhh, i believe the error i was getting was normally from running a 32 bit app in a 64 bit system [00:06] don't remember too well [00:06] and that was supposed to fix it [00:06] oh [00:06] screwednybootnom: Did you try compiling and get an error, then? [00:07] screwedmybootnom: What was the error? [00:08] nope, didn't compile it or anything, i only use either apt-get or synaptic [00:08] or now the software center [00:08] error was "Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libubuntulooks.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32" [00:11] screwedmybootnom: looking into it [00:15] screwedmybootnom: what application are you trying to run ? [00:16] Open synaptic and search "ia32" [00:17] I saw the error [00:17] it shows on startup, and on that i was running conky, gnome-do/docky, and the standard ubuntu startup apps like network manager, etc [00:18] try apt-get install ia32-libs-gtk [00:19] and/or apt-get install ia32-libs [00:19] ran ia32-libs, said newest version already installed. i'm reinstalling now via synaptic [00:19] when i reinstalled, it would automatically mark any unmet dependencies, right? [00:20] Aye [00:20] screwedmybootnom: try apt-get install ia32-libs-gtk [00:21] You most likely are missing some ia32 libs ... [00:21] gahhh...already newest version [00:21] File a bug report =) [00:21] that's what i figured, but i can't figure out which ones [00:22] hahaha yeah, i waited about a year and a half for a fix on my graphics card [00:22] and oddly enough, it came from the nvidia forums, not the ubuntu community [00:22] against libubuntulooks [00:23] no comment screwedmybootnom , but yes if it is a nvidia problem, you need to go to nvidia as the drive is closed source [00:23] aaaaaawesome...now my windows froze! wth. i can't click on anything [00:23] yeah i found that out, nothin against the community lol kinda hard to work with that [00:24] i literally can't even click on xchat menus. not quite sure how it's still letting me type... [00:24] screwedmybootnom: Are the ia32-libs still reinstalling? [00:27] Well, while we have at least a minute, can anyone give me more information about joining the Beginners Team? [00:30] ooook, this is screwedmyboot, had to reboot [00:30] jon__: We you reinstalling ia32-libs while you restarted? [00:30] *Were [00:31] nope, got that done. i was looking at my nvidia GUI settings [00:31] found em when you pointed me to that plymouth/nvidia fix, and i was curious. oops [00:32] jon__: That's good, at least no broken packages then. [00:32] yeah i wasn't installing anything, i think i'm safe [00:32] jon__: You going to give it another go? [00:32] not sure where to start. i'm still getting that "wrong ELF class" error [00:32] and the only thing almighty google brings me is something about flash from the dapper forums [00:33] jon__: That's why you're supposed to submit a bug report [00:33] true. i'm just not sure what to file it under/blame it on [00:33] jon__: libubuntulooks [00:34] ah yes. see, that's why you're the one answering all the questions! lol sorry, i'm a bit brain dead right nwo [00:34] nw [00:37] jon__: That's okay lol [00:37] compiledkernel: i figured out with the 32" LCD TV [00:37] used xrandr package [00:40] asterismo: excellent [00:40] see, i'm not even sure what that error message is referring to; as in, what bad thing is happening to my system that's generating that report? [00:40] no, just a scientist [00:40] i'm an astronomer [00:40] oh well, random SAFE link drop. [00:40] http://gwos.org [00:41] but i used the TV for playing with openarena once [00:42] jon__: The best thing to do would be just posting your input and the output from the terminal in the bug report, along with your version numbers of libubuntulooks and ia32-libs [00:43] how do i get that? [00:45] sorry, lemme rephrase: i'm not inputing anything into the terminal, the initial errors show up on startup [00:46] and as i said before, when conky or docky would shut down, even if i ran it from a terminal, it wouldn't output anything [00:46] so i'm not sure what terminal input/output i can post [00:50] jon__: Just posting the error should be fine then. [00:51] ok, before i do that, are you familiar with libubuntulooks? because i'm not finding it on my system [00:51] jon__: Like I said, though, including the version numbers of libubuntulooks and ia32-libs is important, as is emphasizing the fact that you have ia32-libs installed so they don't think it's the same problem we did [00:51] i know the file the error is referring to but it's not a package [00:52] yeah i was trying to do that, but i can't find/don't know how to get the version of libubuntulooks on my system [00:53] jon__: No, I'm not familiar with ubuntulooks [00:53] lol alright, thanks for all your help, i'll keep trucking on this [00:54] jon__: I would file against ia32-libs [00:57] Looks like it might be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/140604 [00:57] And there's a fix released [00:57] That's definitely ‬worth a try [01:01] rock on, thanks. gonna restart and see if my favorite error shows up! [01:31] Scouris: see http://docs.dal.net/docs/connection.html#5 [01:33] Jon_Monreal, whats that for? [01:33] * Scouris has quit (Quit: Who is peer, and why does he keep closing my connection?) [01:34] Oh, ok. Sorry, my brother has set 'funny messages' to come up when he /quits, I guess he put it on my user profile, too [01:34] no problem, I laughed :P [01:37] Haha I was wondering what IRC client would do that [01:38] Hi :D === compiledkernel is now known as Guest95862 === bgs100 is now known as bgs000 [03:11] Does anyone know if there is a program I can use to check the contents of one text file against another similar one, and find the lines that differ between them? [03:12] good morning to everyone :) [03:12] greetings all [03:12] I could use some help with a system randomly freezing while I am away from it. Would like to know which log to view to find out what is happening. [03:13] i have a probelm with keryx in windows... when ever i start keryx.exe its displaying th eeror as "Please create the project on plugins supported OS" what should i do now? [03:15] @rraj_be A google search produced some interesting results. http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=keryx+%2B%22%22Please+create+the+project+on+plugins+supported+OS%22%22 [03:16] thanks dragondon... solved by the same :) [03:17] no probs. Don't know anything about keryx but figured it was worth tossing out there :) [03:19] :) [03:19] got any ideas about freezing systems? [03:19] i tried googling......but i dont have the ofline machine now with hand [03:19] nope mate [03:20] pretty quiet here.....hopefully someone will be able to help.... [03:21] Hi , first time on irc and 3rd day with ubuntu...having problems installing antivirus...any help? [03:22] well, I'll wing it :) First, why bother with an AV? I'd be less concerned with that IMHO. [03:22] I'd learn firewalls instead. [03:23] well let's start with av..then I'll try firewalls [03:23] I just discovered the sudo command [03:24] now I believe I'm in root whatever but I cannot navigate between folders === malev_ is now known as malev [03:25] with the cd command [03:25] @tonno in Synaptic Package Manager, search for clamav and install the 'clamav-freshclam' package. There's only a couple of AV prgrams out there for Linux I believe. [03:26] typically you just type 'cd {folder name}' [03:26] i was hoping to install the antivir === Guest95862 is now known as CKernel [03:26] @tonno ?? What do you mean? ClamAV is an antivirus program. [03:26] yep I know about the cd but after typing sudo -i I cannot find any folder [03:27] sorry avira one I mean [03:27] does avira make one for Linux? [03:28] mmm.... I'm not an expert but I found a unix version.is it ok? [03:28] @tonno use 'man sudo' to get you more details on the command. But why are you using that switc? [03:29] I can't speak to whether or not Avira is a good one or not. To be honest, 99% of any crap you might get simply won't run on Linux because they are designed for windows [03:30] reading the av manual I need to log in as root [03:31] couple of things. Did you get your AV from here: http://www.free-av.de/en/download/download_servers.php [03:32] and you should really never log in as root. All you need to do is run the command/install AS root with the sudo command. [03:32] yes from there [03:32] i.e. "sudo install avira" (don't know the exact command, just an example) [03:32] if you got it from there site, then you should be fine. [03:33] would also be a good idea to watch tutorial videos on youtube. tons of them there. [03:33] 'lo Ms_Angel_D [03:33] I know that I should not log in as root but that's what requested..... [03:34] tonno: do not log in as root, but sudo -i is fine, that is different [03:34] it doesn't matter. All you need is to use the sudo command. it's the same as. [03:34] greetings @bodhi_zazen [03:34] yes that's what I did and instead of the usr I got root [03:34] 'lo dragondon [03:35] tonno: Keep in mind - Those who play with root [03:35] but after that I cannot move to the desktop where I have the installation files [03:35] eventually kill tree [03:35] @bodhi_zazen would you happen to know how to diagnoze a freezing system? [03:35] dragondon: 1. Check the logs [03:35] 2. Check the temp, overheating is common [03:36] 3. Hardware - videocard or wireless are most common [03:36] @bodhi_zazen I figured as much, problem is I don't know which log(s) to check and what I should look for... [03:36] cd /var/log [03:36] tail messages [03:36] look for any errors [03:36] log.error [03:36] tail dmesg [03:36] boot is boot messages [03:37] when in doubt , tail ./* > log [03:37] then nano log [03:37] tail ./* ~/log [03:37] gedit ~/log [03:37] tail ./* > ~/log [03:37] sorry , lol [03:38] ok, I suspect I have a number of issues. One being I am seeing a lot of 'dropped'; messages. tail doesn't go back far enough to where I suspect the freeze happened. [03:38] Well, dropped is usually a firewall issue [03:38] so trun your firewall off while you look into things [03:38] or [03:39] grep -v dropped messages > ~/log [03:39] just so I understan, that last command will list the log file without the dropped messages? [03:40] yep [03:40] grep -v foo [03:40] see man grep =) [03:40] Hi bodhi_zazen, sorry I was afk :D [03:40] np Ms_Angel_D [03:40] :) Still larning more myself. I am trying to put all this togther. [03:41] I understand dragondon [03:41] learning to read the man pages is a critical skill =) [03:41] reading the man pages will answer lots of questions [03:41] although not all men (man pages) are equal [03:42] just so I get the text right, how do I write the syntax for the 'dropped messages'? [03:42] example: dragondon-desktop kernel: [ 3026.716112] DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.1.9 DST=192.168.1.255 LEN=222 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=631 DPT=631 LEN=202 [03:43] grep -v DROPPED /var/log/messages > ~/log [03:43] i thought so but figured I'd ask to be safe :) [03:43] NP [03:44] If you do not ask, we do not know where you get lost in the nerdy lingo [03:44] I mean, if that command made sense to you, don't you think you have a problem ? [03:44] =) [03:45] Linux is a kind og new/old thing for me. Grew up in the DOS days, got dumbed down by windows, smartened up and switched to Linux :) [03:45] :) [03:46] When I was growing up, I used to log into what we termed "the main frame" , lol [03:46] running "grep -v DROPPED > ~/log", taking it's sweet time here.... [03:46] you forgot the message log [03:46] grep -v DROPPED /var/log/messages > ~/log [03:46] yeah, missed the mainframe stuff, but did get to play with punch cards in grade 9/10 :) [03:47] Ah , punch cards, talk about hanging chits =) [03:47] ah, that would explain the delay :) [03:48] Hmm, last thing the system shows is "pulseaudio[2141]: ratelimit.c: 1 events suppressed" before I came back up and had to power cycle the machine. [03:49] That is a common message [03:49] Check you temp - open the box an clean it with a vacuum cleaner, lol [03:50] Then check with google to see if any hardware problems are reported with your videocard and if you use it wireless [03:50] a vac cleaner? Wow.....although been in/out of this system a few times, doesn't look that bad at all. [03:50] should I mention that I'm running 10.04? :) [03:50] Does 9.10 run without any problem ? [03:51] You using nvidia or ati card ? [03:51] Try Fedora. Is this a problem across all Linux , or just Ubuntu ? [03:51] =) [03:53] This is an old Dell Dimension 1100 (4-5 years). Was working fine till a week or so. After the 10.04 upgrade it was ok but not sure if it was some update or the screen saver that may be causing the issue. [03:53] Well, if it is an old box, could be over heating or a failiing HD =) [03:53] hard to say [03:54] hardware problems usually persist across OS [03:54] so if you can run 9.10, Fedora, etc, but not 10.04 ... [03:54] then it is Ubuntu [03:54] 9.04 ran 'fine', but had video issues. I added in a PCI ATI 9200 series card and that sorta worked for awhile but then the problem returned. went back to the onboard stuff. [03:54] But if you have a problem in multiple OS, more likely hardware [03:54] I'm only running one OS atm [03:56] How about booting a live CD for a while ? [03:57] good idea. a bit of a shame to loose all the programs installed but they aren't that critical, save for IRS and such ;) [03:57] IRC.... [03:58] naw, just make a DATA partition for stuff you want to save, the OS is easily replaced [03:59] Hi all. I'm trying to compare two different .c files and show the differences between them. But I only want to see the lines that differ, not the entire document with notation on different lines...anyone know the syntax? [03:59] well, that's a whole other game for me atm. I'll run with a Live CD overnight and see if it freezes. [04:00] diff file.1 file.2 ? [04:03] That's what I tried, it's just sending me the entire file...Maybe because the lines are not the same between the two [04:03] It's almost the same file, one is just an updated version of the source, trying to find the change that is crashing for me [04:03] Ouch =) [04:04] maybe cut/paste into two new files where the lines can match up? [04:05] diff -y foo foo2 [04:05] diff --suppress-common-lines [04:12] ttfn [04:25] Hi: I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if other people are having a similar issue to me with their update to ubuntu 10.04? My wired internet connections seems to be very sporadic on a laptop i just updated. Just curios is this is related to the upgrade or if there are other issues happening here. [04:26] Upgraded to 10.04 and the theme changed to something real dirty (the default Fedora look). I used the alternate CD image mount. How can I get the old theme/look back. (PS. my close, maxi/mini-mize buttons are on right. How come?) [04:29] Hello? [04:31] ircindia I don't know but usually if I ask something and go look for the answer, someone comes back and answers the question by the time I'm getting frustrated googling [04:33] TJ_D: Ok, I will wait === 18VAAT7XR is now known as malev [06:20] hey, i was wondering if anyone knew how to properly sync an ipod touch 3g 3.1.3 to linux? [06:22] ShadowKnight, this is the Ubuntu Help page for syncing ann iPhone or iPod: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone [06:22] Scouris, thank you so much [07:14] Does anyone know if there's a program to enable an xbox360 controller in Linux? [08:58] programming language [08:59] in LUCID [09:01] how to start? [09:01] want to learn programming [09:04] nice shahan [09:04] /join #ubuntu-beginners-dev [09:05] you'r most welcome there [09:05] (i hope) === lukjad007 is now known as lukjad86 [11:25] Anyone around? [11:27] yes? [11:29] Vantrax hi [11:30] Vantrax I'm trying to pinpoint why my BIOS started to beep wildly yesterday night [11:30] what bios? [11:31] and what beep pattern [11:31] Vantrax Just BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP [11:31] The computer was on, nothing was touching hte keyboard, and it just started beeping for a full minute [11:32] lukjad86, lol, and the bios (OEM, Award tc) [11:32] etc [11:33] Vantrax it came with my dell PC [11:34] I bought an XPS 430 [11:34] brb [11:35] then its a ram issue [11:38] hrm hold on [11:38] it was on and running then went berzerk, not starting up? [11:39] if it was running it wasnt the BIOS [11:39] bios only runs at boot to do basic hardware checks and then hands off to the OS. Once it does that it doesnt do anything [11:41] Vantrax No, it was running, then the bios started beeping wildly, but everything kept running normally [11:41] Vantrax So it it's not a BIOS beep, and it wasn't from the speakers...? [11:50] cant tell you much more without looking at it [11:50] lukjad86, I support 4500 dells:P [11:50] Oh, really? Nice :) [11:51] Vantrax Work for Dell, do you? [11:52] no, for a big university [11:52] Ah [11:52] our student computing fleet is 4500 which is what I work on [11:53] then there is another 4000 staff machines [11:55] Vantrax I think that it may be someone was scanning my computer. Can't be sure, this kind of thing with it beeping at me happens from time to time [12:04] might help to disable software sound next time it does it [12:04] that will tell you if it is hardware, or an application [12:05] Vantrax You seem to be right. [12:06] Vantrax Now of course, I have to figure out what had the alarm go off :P [12:12] he he he [12:12] good luck lukjad86 [12:12] you can disable the windows sounds which will make sure its not the OS [12:13] Yeah, that was already done [13:10] I lost network indicator on my LUCID from the upper panel [13:10] I want to get it back [13:10] but the internet is working [13:11] ohhh.... [13:12] got it [13:12] oh good :) [13:12] its right clicking on the bar > Add to Panel > Notification Area [13:13] yep [13:13] tnx GOD [13:14] they won't help [13:14] personally the icon is no use to me as I only use ethernet :) [13:15] hobgoblin: !!! [13:15] hobgoblin: hmm [13:16] hobgoblin: but I am using WiFi.. for this I can see there the network strength [13:16] yea - I understand - it is no use to ME :) [13:17] I'd be fed up if I lost it and needed it though :) [13:18] hobgoblin: hmm [13:34] whats the easiest way to check my screen resolution? [13:36] benjamintheyon: in a terminal xrandr - the current resolution will have a * or look in System > PReferences > monitor [13:37] thanks a bunch! [13:37] welcome [13:59] hobgoblin: heya [14:02] hi nigelbabu [14:02] hobgoblin: do you mind a PM? [14:02] who from ? [14:02] ha ha ha - of course :) [14:02] lol :) [14:03] go ahead nigelbabu :) [14:08] If it was me hobgoblin would you still say yes? Lmao [14:08] yep of course ZachK_ :) [14:08] Lol [14:14] ZachK_: you got PC sorted now? [14:15] hobgoblin: Wha? [14:15] last time we spoke you were online with a phone or something [14:16] I have kind of a graphical question - is there a way to make icons stand out more on a busy background, short of editing the image to provide a space for them? [14:17] hobgoblin: Oh yeah I got a pc...right now I'm using my iPod cause I'm at my grandparents house [14:17] ZachK_: technology is a wonderful thing - you'd not have been doing that 30 years ago on a walkman ;) [14:18] benjamintheyon: maybe rethink the way you use your desktop - mine is bare ... anything I put on there stands out [14:18] hobgoblin: Agreed [14:18] benjamintheyon: maybe use resized icons [14:19] benjamintheyon: you can resize the things on the desktop - but that works on all that is there [14:20] hobgoblin: that's how I usually operate, to be honest. I doctored an image to give a muted area for icons and it looks good. I was just wondering if there was a software that'd do it automatically and allow me to drag the border to change the size the "icon area" [14:20] so resizing won't work on second thoughts [14:20] I think you can stretch them [14:22] I guess ideally I could make a little "tray" object on the desktop, but I have no idea if there is something that'll do that. I'm pretty new to Ubuntu and just exploring what my possibilities are [14:23] benjamintheyon: have you tried the stretch - right click the icon - should be in the menu [14:23] well, it isn't really the icon I'd like to size. maybe Im not explaining myself, let me try again. [14:24] basically, I usually use a very simple desktop background image; icons look much nicer when they aren't sitting on top of some crazy busy pattern/image [14:25] I wanted to dress it up with something a little different, BUT I want to keep the ability to see my icons clearly too. So I edited the image to provide a space for my icons at the left of the screen that is very muted. [14:25] It works, but it isn't dynamic at all. If I wind up with a second row of files/launchers/etc....I'll have to remake the changes on the image using gimp. see what I'm saying? [14:27] oic [14:28] I just figured as cool as Ubuntu is, and with such a focus on usability, something might exist to allow that. kind of a dynamic tray for icons on the desktop [14:28] I have no idea then - sounds like the sort of thing you should be able to find/sort out [14:28] I would be inclined to try a post on the forum - there are more people looking there than in here [14:29] if you do I would go to the Desktop Environment forum - http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=329 [14:29] That's probably what I'll go with. I have a feeling someone's created something similar. Thanks! [14:29] there might even be a channel - let me have a look [14:30] anybody know how I can use a different sound device on skype? [14:31] van: sure, you need to enable it via skype's settings [14:31] benjamintheyon: there is a deskytop channel - but I would think it is not quite what you would want - might be worth a question in there - it is in ubuntu namespace so you shouldn't get any un-ubuntu answers [14:31] benjamintheyon: #ubuntu-desktop [14:31] thanks a bunch! [14:32] benjamintheyon: but I think forum would be best bet [14:32] Akos, the problem is that I cannot make any changes on skype settings from Pulseaudio [14:37] van: Ah audio input output settings are in skype my mahn [14:37] van: you don't need to do changes from Pulseaudio, just from within Skype [14:39] Akos, from within Skype-sound devices-speakers, I get "pulseaudio server" as my only option [14:40] skype is good for windows [14:40] but I am not satisfied using skype in ubuntu [14:40] skype dont give good performance on ubuntu [14:40] in windows skype give awesome performance [14:40] shahan: so you suggesting the solution is to install windows? [14:40] lol how didn't I think of that? [14:41] van: well, i'd say then uninstall pulseaudio, but i can't give you support if anything wrong happens, so you should ask on the forums or wait around here, and maybe a sound device guru could come around (: [14:41] van [14:41] That's good enough for me Akos, I think I'll way. thanks :) [14:41] wait* [14:41] my pleasure (: [14:42] van: never I will suggest u to install in windows [14:42] van: I am telling you that it give better performance in windows [14:42] van: no... [14:42] shahan, yeap and the sky is blue and the earth round [14:45] it happens sometimes.... === running_rabbit07 is now known as uRock [15:00] hi all, can anybody help me with xp-ubuntu lan setup? i managed to see shared files from xp, but i can't understand how to see ubuntu's files. [15:12] demihalf: right click the folder and go to sharing [15:12] share it and it will show up as a network share in xp [15:59] LzrdKing: already tried this, doesn't work [16:00] what happens? [16:04] nothing. and when i open network in xp it can't see ubuntu computer [16:05] check your workgroup [16:06] or go to \\computername [16:06] or just leave [16:32] Does anyone have any idea why ubuntu 10.04 will not log me in after requesting for password? (it is set not to ask for password btw) [17:21] Hi everybody [17:21] I am new to I [17:21] IRC [17:21] can anybody teach me how to use it? [17:22] mfarshada_, well what do you want to know? [17:22] mfarshada_: Hello. Do you need help setting up your client, are you seeking help? [17:22] well, I want know about the command. tricks, how to share files, etc [17:23] mfarshada_, read the manual? [17:23] not yet [17:23] waht is the best manual on this? [17:23] also quick [17:23] well, quick isn't going to be a part of it. [17:24] fine [17:24] are you using xchat? [17:24] konversation [17:24] but xchat is also installed [17:24] n working properly [17:25] mfarshada_, i'd say this is where you want to start [17:25] http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-network/konversation/index.html [17:26] ok, thanks [17:28] when I want to answer to somebody, do I have to type its whole nickname, or there is a shortcut for this? [17:28] because I see you even included '_' in my nickname!! [17:29] tab complete mfarshada_ [17:30] type a few letters then tab [17:30] hobgoblin: great! [17:30] hobgoblin: thnks [17:43] Is there anyone here that could tell me more about joining the team? [17:45] Jon_Monreal, #ubuntu-devel ? [17:46] Ken8521: No, the Beginners Team [17:46] Jon_Monreal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeamI [17:46] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam [17:46] Jon_Monreal, nobody there can point you were to go? [17:47] Already seen the document; I'm more interested in knowing if my contributions so far are sufficient. [17:49]