[00:02] <Jon_Monreal> ia32-libs
[00:03] <screwedmybootnom> says it's already the newest version
[00:04] <Jon_Monreal> Oh snap
[00:05] <Jon_Monreal> What's the problem that installing ia32-libs was supposed to solve?
[00:06] <pedro3005> You're supposed to sorta compile some driver with it
[00:06] <screwedmybootnom> uhhh, i believe the error i was getting was normally from running a 32 bit app in a 64 bit system
[00:06] <pedro3005> don't remember too well
[00:06] <screwedmybootnom> and that was supposed to fix it
[00:06] <pedro3005> oh
[00:06] <Jon_Monreal> screwednybootnom: Did you try compiling and get an error, then?
[00:07] <Jon_Monreal> screwedmybootnom: What was the error?
[00:08] <screwedmybootnom> nope, didn't compile it or anything, i only use either apt-get or synaptic
[00:08] <screwedmybootnom> or now the software center
[00:08] <screwedmybootnom> error was "Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libubuntulooks.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32"
[00:11] <Jon_Monreal> screwedmybootnom: looking into it
[00:15] <bodhi_zazen> screwedmybootnom: what application are you trying to run ?
[00:16] <bodhi_zazen> Open synaptic and search "ia32"
[00:17] <bodhi_zazen> I saw the error
[00:17] <screwedmybootnom> it shows on startup, and on that i was running conky, gnome-do/docky, and the standard ubuntu startup apps like network manager, etc
[00:18] <bodhi_zazen> try apt-get install ia32-libs-gtk
[00:19] <bodhi_zazen> and/or apt-get install ia32-libs
[00:19] <screwedmybootnom> ran ia32-libs, said newest version already installed. i'm reinstalling now via synaptic
[00:19] <screwedmybootnom> when i reinstalled, it would automatically mark any unmet dependencies, right?
[00:20] <bodhi_zazen> Aye
[00:20] <bodhi_zazen> screwedmybootnom: try apt-get install ia32-libs-gtk
[00:21] <bodhi_zazen> You most likely are missing some ia32 libs ...
[00:21] <screwedmybootnom> gahhh...already newest version
[00:21] <bodhi_zazen> File a bug report =)
 that's what i figured, but i can't figure out which ones
[00:22] <screwedmybootnom> hahaha yeah, i waited about a year and a half for a fix on my graphics card
[00:22] <screwedmybootnom> and oddly enough, it came from the nvidia forums, not the ubuntu community
[00:22] <bodhi_zazen> against libubuntulooks
[00:23] <bodhi_zazen> no comment screwedmybootnom , but yes if it is a nvidia problem, you need to go to nvidia as the drive is closed source
[00:23] <screwedmybootnom> aaaaaawesome...now my windows froze! wth. i can't click on anything
[00:23] <screwedmybootnom> yeah i found that out, nothin against the community lol kinda hard to work with that
[00:24] <screwedmybootnom> i literally can't even click on xchat menus. not quite sure how it's still letting me type...
[00:24] <Jon_Monreal> screwedmybootnom: Are the ia32-libs still reinstalling?
[00:27] <Jon_Monreal> Well, while we have at least a minute, can anyone give me more information about joining the Beginners Team?
[00:30] <jon__> ooook, this is screwedmyboot, had to reboot
[00:30] <Jon_Monreal> jon__: We you reinstalling ia32-libs while you restarted?
[00:30] <Jon_Monreal> *Were
[00:31] <jon__> nope, got that done. i was looking at my nvidia GUI settings
[00:31] <jon__> found em when you pointed me to that plymouth/nvidia fix, and i was curious. oops
[00:32] <Jon_Monreal> jon__: That's good, at least no broken packages then.
[00:32] <jon__> yeah i wasn't installing anything, i think i'm safe
[00:32] <Jon_Monreal> jon__: You going to give it another go?
[00:32] <jon__> not sure where to start. i'm still getting that "wrong ELF class" error
[00:32] <jon__> and the only thing almighty google brings me is something about flash from the dapper forums
[00:33] <Jon_Monreal> jon__: That's why you're supposed to submit a bug report
[00:33] <jon__> true. i'm just not sure what to file it under/blame it on
[00:33] <Jon_Monreal> jon__: libubuntulooks
[00:34] <jon__> ah yes. see, that's why you're the one answering all the questions! lol sorry, i'm a bit brain dead right nwo
[00:34] <jon__> nw
[00:37] <Jon_Monreal> jon__: That's okay lol
[00:37] <asterismo> compiledkernel: i figured out with the 32" LCD TV
[00:37] <asterismo> used xrandr package
[00:40] <compiledkernel> asterismo: excellent
 see, i'm not even sure what that error message is referring to; as in, what bad thing is happening to my system that's generating that report?
[00:40] <asterismo> no, just a scientist
[00:40] <asterismo> i'm an astronomer
[00:40] <compiledkernel> oh well, random SAFE link drop.
[00:40] <compiledkernel> http://gwos.org
[00:41] <asterismo> but i used the TV for playing with openarena once
[00:42] <Jon_Monreal> jon__: The best thing to do would be just posting your input and the output from the terminal in the bug report, along with your version numbers of libubuntulooks and ia32-libs
[00:43] <jon__> how do i get that?
[00:45] <jon__> sorry, lemme rephrase: i'm not inputing anything into the terminal, the initial errors show up on startup
[00:46] <jon__> and as i said before, when conky or docky would shut down, even if i ran it from a terminal, it wouldn't output anything
[00:46] <jon__> so i'm not sure what terminal input/output i can post
[00:50] <Jon_Monreal> jon__: Just posting the error should be fine then.
[00:51] <jon__> ok, before i do that, are you familiar with libubuntulooks? because i'm not finding it on my system
[00:51] <Jon_Monreal> jon__: Like I said, though, including the version numbers of libubuntulooks and ia32-libs is important, as is emphasizing the fact that you have ia32-libs installed so they don't think it's the same problem we did
[00:51] <jon__> i know the file the error is referring to but it's not a package
[00:52] <jon__> yeah i was trying to do that, but i can't find/don't know how to get the version of libubuntulooks on my system
[00:53] <Jon_Monreal> jon__: No, I'm not familiar with ubuntulooks
[00:53] <jon__> lol alright, thanks for all your help, i'll keep trucking on this
[00:54] <Jon_Monreal> jon__: I would file against ia32-libs
[00:57] <Jon_Monreal> Looks like it might be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/140604
[00:57] <Jon_Monreal> And there's a fix released
[00:57] <Jon_Monreal> That's definitely ‬worth a try
[01:01] <jon__> rock on, thanks. gonna restart and see if my favorite error shows up!
[01:31] <Jon_Monreal> Scouris: see http://docs.dal.net/docs/connection.html#5
[01:33] <Scouris> Jon_Monreal, whats that for?
[01:33] <pedro3005> * Scouris has quit (Quit: Who is peer, and why does he keep closing my connection?)
[01:34] <Scouris> Oh, ok. Sorry, my brother has set 'funny messages' to come up when he /quits, I guess he put it on my user profile, too
[01:34] <pedro3005> no problem, I laughed :P
[01:37] <Jon_Monreal> Haha I was wondering what IRC client would do that
[01:38] <Clorox> Hi :D
[03:11] <TJ_D> Does anyone know if there is a program I can use to check the contents of one text file against another similar one, and find the lines that differ between them?
[03:12] <rraj_be> good morning to everyone :)
[03:12] <dragondon> greetings all
[03:12] <dragondon> I could use some help with a system randomly freezing while I am away from it.  Would like to know which log to view to find out what is happening.
[03:13] <rraj_be> i have a probelm with keryx in windows... when ever i start keryx.exe its displaying th eeror as "Please create the project on plugins supported OS" what should i do now?
[03:15] <dragondon> @rraj_be  A google search produced some interesting results.  http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=keryx+%2B%22%22Please+create+the+project+on+plugins+supported+OS%22%22
[03:16] <rraj_be> thanks dragondon... solved by the same  :)
[03:17] <dragondon> no probs.  Don't know anything about keryx but figured it was worth tossing out there :)
[03:19] <rraj_be> :)
[03:19] <dragondon> got any ideas about freezing systems?
[03:19] <rraj_be> i tried googling......but i dont have the ofline machine now with hand
[03:19] <rraj_be> nope mate
[03:20] <dragondon> pretty quiet here.....hopefully someone will be able to help....
[03:21] <tonno> Hi , first time on irc and 3rd day with ubuntu...having problems installing antivirus...any help?
[03:22] <dragondon> well, I'll wing it :)  First, why bother with an AV?  I'd be less concerned with that IMHO.
[03:22] <dragondon> I'd learn firewalls instead.
[03:23] <tonno> well let's start with av..then I'll try firewalls
[03:23] <tonno> I just discovered the sudo command
[03:24] <tonno> now I believe I'm in root whatever but I cannot navigate between folders
[03:25] <tonno> with the cd command
[03:25] <dragondon> @tonno  in Synaptic Package Manager, search for clamav and install the 'clamav-freshclam' package.  There's only a couple of AV prgrams out there for Linux I believe.
[03:26] <dragondon> typically you just type 'cd {folder name}'
[03:26] <tonno> i was hoping to install the antivir
[03:26] <dragondon> @tonno ??  What do you mean?  ClamAV is an antivirus program.
[03:26] <tonno> yep I know about the cd but after typing sudo -i I cannot find any folder
[03:27] <tonno> sorry avira one I mean
[03:27] <dragondon> does avira make one for Linux?
[03:28] <tonno> mmm.... I'm not an expert but I found a unix version.is it ok?
[03:28] <dragondon> @tonno use 'man sudo' to get you more details on the command.  But why are you using that switc?
[03:29] <dragondon> I can't speak to whether or not Avira is a good one or not.  To be honest, 99% of any crap you might get simply won't run on Linux because they are designed for windows
[03:30] <tonno> reading the av manual I need to log in as root
[03:31] <dragondon> couple of things.  Did you get your AV from here:  http://www.free-av.de/en/download/download_servers.php
[03:32] <dragondon> and you should really never log in as root.  All you need to do is run the command/install AS root with the sudo command.
[03:32] <tonno> yes from there
[03:32] <dragondon> i.e. "sudo install avira" (don't know the exact command, just an example)
[03:32] <dragondon> if you got it from there site, then you should be fine.
[03:33] <dragondon> would also be a good idea to watch tutorial videos on youtube.  tons of them there.
[03:33] <bodhi_zazen> 'lo Ms_Angel_D
[03:33] <tonno> I know that I should not log in as root but that's what requested.....
[03:34] <bodhi_zazen> tonno: do not log in as root, but sudo -i is fine, that is different
[03:34] <dragondon> it doesn't matter.  All you need is to use the sudo command.  it's the same as.
[03:34] <dragondon> greetings @bodhi_zazen
[03:34] <tonno> yes that's what I did and instead of the usr I got root
[03:34] <bodhi_zazen> 'lo dragondon
[03:35] <bodhi_zazen> tonno: Keep in mind - Those who play with root
[03:35] <tonno> but after that I cannot move to the desktop where I have the installation files
[03:35] <bodhi_zazen> eventually kill tree
[03:35] <dragondon> @bodhi_zazen would you happen to know how to diagnoze a freezing system?
[03:35] <bodhi_zazen> dragondon: 1. Check the logs
[03:35] <bodhi_zazen> 2. Check the temp, overheating is common
[03:36] <bodhi_zazen> 3. Hardware - videocard or wireless are most common
[03:36] <dragondon> @bodhi_zazen I figured as much, problem is I don't know which log(s) to check and what I should look for...
[03:36] <bodhi_zazen> cd /var/log
[03:36] <bodhi_zazen> tail messages
[03:36] <bodhi_zazen> look for any errors
[03:36] <bodhi_zazen> log.error
[03:36] <bodhi_zazen> tail dmesg
[03:36] <bodhi_zazen> boot is boot messages
[03:37] <bodhi_zazen> when in doubt , tail ./* > log
[03:37] <bodhi_zazen> then nano log
[03:37] <bodhi_zazen> tail ./* ~/log
[03:37] <bodhi_zazen> gedit ~/log
[03:37] <bodhi_zazen> tail ./* > ~/log
[03:37] <bodhi_zazen> sorry , lol
[03:38] <dragondon> ok, I suspect I have a number of issues.  One being I am seeing a lot of 'dropped'; messages.  tail doesn't go back far enough to where I suspect the freeze happened.
[03:38] <bodhi_zazen> Well, dropped is usually a firewall issue
[03:38] <bodhi_zazen> so trun your firewall off while you look into things
[03:38] <bodhi_zazen> or
[03:39] <bodhi_zazen> grep -v dropped messages > ~/log
[03:39] <dragondon> just so I understan, that last command will list the log file without the dropped messages?
[03:40] <bodhi_zazen> yep
[03:40] <bodhi_zazen> grep -v foo
[03:40] <bodhi_zazen> see man grep =)
[03:40] <Ms_Angel_D> Hi bodhi_zazen, sorry I was afk :D
[03:40] <bodhi_zazen> np Ms_Angel_D
[03:40] <dragondon> :)  Still larning more myself.  I am trying to put all this togther.
[03:41] <bodhi_zazen> I understand dragondon
[03:41] <bodhi_zazen> learning to read the man pages is a critical skill =)
[03:41] <bodhi_zazen> reading the man pages will answer lots of questions
[03:41] <bodhi_zazen> although not all men (man pages) are equal
[03:42] <dragondon> just so I get the text right, how do I write the syntax for the 'dropped messages'?
[03:42] <dragondon> example: dragondon-desktop kernel: [ 3026.716112] DROPPED IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.1.9 DST=192.168.1.255 LEN=222 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=631 DPT=631 LEN=202
[03:43] <bodhi_zazen> grep -v DROPPED /var/log/messages > ~/log
[03:43] <dragondon> i thought so but figured I'd ask to be safe :)
[03:43] <bodhi_zazen> NP
[03:44] <bodhi_zazen> If you do not ask, we do not know where you get lost in the nerdy lingo
[03:44] <bodhi_zazen> I mean, if that command made sense to you, don't you think you have a problem ?
[03:44] <bodhi_zazen> =)
[03:45] <dragondon> Linux is a kind og new/old thing for me.  Grew up in the DOS days, got dumbed down by windows, smartened up and switched to Linux :)
[03:45] <dragondon> :)
[03:46] <bodhi_zazen> When I was growing up, I used to log into what we termed "the main frame" , lol
[03:46] <dragondon> running "grep -v DROPPED > ~/log", taking it's sweet time here....
[03:46] <bodhi_zazen> you forgot the message log
[03:46] <bodhi_zazen> grep -v DROPPED /var/log/messages > ~/log
[03:46] <dragondon> yeah, missed the mainframe stuff, but did get to play with punch cards in grade 9/10 :)
[03:47] <bodhi_zazen> Ah , punch cards, talk about hanging chits =)
[03:47] <dragondon> ah, that would explain the delay :)
[03:48] <dragondon> Hmm, last thing the system shows is "pulseaudio[2141]: ratelimit.c: 1 events suppressed" before I came back up and had to power cycle the machine.
[03:49] <bodhi_zazen> That is a common message
[03:49] <bodhi_zazen> Check you temp - open the box an clean it with a vacuum cleaner, lol
[03:50] <bodhi_zazen> Then check with google to see if any hardware problems are reported with your videocard and if you use it wireless
 a vac cleaner?  Wow.....although been in/out of this system a few times, doesn't look that bad at all.
[03:50] <dragondon> should I mention that I'm running 10.04? :)
[03:50] <bodhi_zazen> Does 9.10 run without any problem ?
[03:51] <bodhi_zazen> You using nvidia or ati card ?
[03:51] <bodhi_zazen> Try Fedora. Is this a problem across all Linux , or just Ubuntu ?
[03:51] <bodhi_zazen> =)
[03:53] <dragondon> This is an old Dell Dimension 1100 (4-5 years).  Was working fine till a week or so.  After the 10.04 upgrade it was ok but not sure if it was some update or the screen saver that may be causing the issue.
[03:53] <bodhi_zazen> Well, if it is an old box, could be over heating or a failiing HD =)
[03:53] <bodhi_zazen> hard to say
[03:54] <bodhi_zazen> hardware problems usually persist across OS
[03:54] <bodhi_zazen> so if you can run 9.10, Fedora, etc, but not 10.04 ...
[03:54] <bodhi_zazen> then it is Ubuntu
[03:54] <dragondon> 9.04 ran 'fine', but had video issues.  I added in a PCI ATI 9200 series card and that sorta worked for awhile but then the problem returned.  went back to the onboard stuff.
[03:54] <bodhi_zazen> But if you have a problem in multiple OS, more likely hardware
[03:54] <dragondon> I'm only running one OS atm
[03:56] <bodhi_zazen> How about booting a live CD for a while ?
[03:57] <dragondon> good idea.  a bit of a shame to loose all the programs installed but they aren't that critical, save for IRS and such ;)
[03:57] <dragondon> IRC....
[03:58] <bodhi_zazen> naw, just make a DATA partition for stuff you want to save, the OS is easily replaced
[03:59] <TJ_D> Hi all. I'm trying to compare two different .c files and show the differences between them. But I only want to see the lines that differ, not the entire document with notation on different lines...anyone know the syntax?
[03:59] <dragondon> well, that's a whole other game for me atm.  I'll run with a Live CD overnight and see if it freezes.
[04:00] <bodhi_zazen> diff file.1 file.2 ?
[04:03] <TJ_D> That's what I tried, it's just sending me the entire file...Maybe because the lines are not the same between the two
[04:03] <TJ_D> It's almost the same file, one is just an updated version of the source, trying to find the change that is crashing for me
[04:03] <bodhi_zazen> Ouch =)
[04:04] <dragondon> maybe cut/paste into two new files where the lines can match up?
[04:05] <bodhi_zazen> diff -y foo foo2
[04:05] <bodhi_zazen> diff --suppress-common-lines
[04:12] <bodhi_zazen> ttfn
[04:25] <krhahn> Hi: I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if other people are having a similar issue to me with their update to ubuntu 10.04?  My wired internet connections seems to be very sporadic on a laptop i just updated.  Just curios is this is related to the upgrade or if there are other issues happening here.
[04:26] <ircindia> Upgraded to 10.04 and the theme changed to something real dirty (the default Fedora look). I used the alternate CD image mount. How can I get the old theme/look back. (PS. my close, maxi/mini-mize buttons are on right. How come?)
[04:29] <krhahn> Hello?
[04:31] <TJ_D> ircindia I don't know but usually if I ask something and go look for the answer, someone comes back and answers the question by the time I'm getting frustrated googling
[04:33] <ircindia> TJ_D: Ok, I will wait
[06:20] <ShadowKnight> hey, i was wondering if anyone knew how to properly sync an ipod touch 3g 3.1.3 to linux?
[06:22] <Scouris> ShadowKnight, this is the Ubuntu Help page for syncing ann iPhone or iPod: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[06:22] <ShadowKnight> Scouris, thank you so much
[07:14] <TJ_D> Does anyone know if there's a program to enable an xbox360 controller in Linux?
[08:58] <shahan> programming language
[08:59] <shahan> in LUCID
[09:01] <shahan> how to start?
[09:01] <shahan> want to learn programming
[09:04] <leoquant> nice shahan
[09:04] <leoquant>  /join #ubuntu-beginners-dev
[09:05] <leoquant> you'r most welcome there
[09:05] <leoquant> (i hope)
[11:25] <lukjad86> Anyone around?
[11:27] <Vantrax> yes?
[11:29] <lukjad86> Vantrax hi
[11:30] <lukjad86> Vantrax I'm trying to pinpoint why my BIOS started to beep wildly yesterday night
[11:30] <Vantrax> what bios?
[11:31] <Vantrax> and what beep pattern
[11:31] <lukjad86> Vantrax Just BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP
[11:31] <lukjad86> The computer was on, nothing was touching hte keyboard, and it just started beeping for a full minute
[11:32] <Vantrax> lukjad86, lol, and the bios (OEM, Award tc)
[11:32] <Vantrax> etc
[11:33] <lukjad86> Vantrax it came with my dell PC
[11:34] <lukjad86> I bought an XPS 430
[11:34] <lukjad86> brb
[11:35] <Vantrax> then its a ram issue
[11:38] <Vantrax> hrm hold on
[11:38] <Vantrax> it was on and running then went berzerk, not starting up?
[11:39] <Vantrax> if it was running it wasnt the BIOS
[11:39] <Vantrax> bios only runs at boot to do basic hardware checks and then hands off to the OS. Once it does that it doesnt do anything
[11:41] <lukjad86> Vantrax No, it was running, then the bios started beeping wildly, but everything kept running normally
[11:41] <lukjad86> Vantrax So it it's not a BIOS beep, and it wasn't from the speakers...?
[11:50] <Vantrax> cant tell you much more without looking at it
[11:50] <Vantrax> lukjad86, I support 4500 dells:P
[11:50] <lukjad86> Oh, really? Nice :)
[11:51] <lukjad86> Vantrax Work for Dell, do you?
[11:52] <Vantrax> no, for a big university
[11:52] <lukjad86> Ah
[11:52] <Vantrax> our student computing fleet is 4500 which is what I work on
[11:53] <Vantrax> then there is another 4000 staff machines
[11:55] <lukjad86> Vantrax I think that it may be someone was scanning my computer. Can't be sure, this kind of thing with it beeping at me happens from time to time
[12:04] <Vantrax> might help to disable software sound next time it does it
[12:04] <Vantrax> that will tell you if it is hardware, or an application
[12:05] <lukjad86> Vantrax You seem to be right.
[12:06] <lukjad86> Vantrax Now of course, I have to figure out what had the alarm go off :P
[12:12] <Vantrax> he he he
[12:12] <Vantrax> good luck lukjad86
[12:12] <Vantrax> you can disable the windows sounds which will make sure its not the OS
[12:13] <lukjad86> Yeah, that was already done
[13:10] <shahan> I lost network indicator on my LUCID from the upper panel
[13:10] <shahan> I want to get it back
[13:10] <shahan> but the internet is working
[13:11] <shahan> ohhh....
[13:12] <shahan> got it
[13:12] <hobgoblin> oh good :)
[13:12] <shahan> its right clicking on the bar > Add to Panel > Notification Area
[13:13] <hobgoblin> yep
[13:13] <shahan> tnx GOD
[13:14] <hobgoblin> they won't help
[13:14] <hobgoblin> personally the icon is no use to me as I only use ethernet :)
[13:15] <shahan> hobgoblin: !!!
[13:15] <shahan> hobgoblin: hmm
[13:16] <shahan> hobgoblin: but I am using WiFi.. for this I can see there the network strength
[13:16] <hobgoblin> yea - I understand - it is no use to ME :)
[13:17] <hobgoblin> I'd be fed up if I lost it and needed it though :)
[13:18] <shahan> hobgoblin: hmm
[13:34] <benjamintheyon> whats the easiest way to check my screen resolution?
[13:36] <hobgoblin> benjamintheyon: in a terminal xrandr - the current resolution will have a * or look in System > PReferences > monitor
[13:37] <benjamintheyon> thanks a bunch!
[13:37] <hobgoblin> welcome
[13:59] <nigelbabu> hobgoblin: heya
[14:02] <hobgoblin> hi nigelbabu
[14:02] <nigelbabu> hobgoblin: do you mind a PM?
[14:02] <hobgoblin> who from ?
[14:02] <hobgoblin> ha ha ha - of course :)
[14:02] <nigelbabu> lol :)
[14:03] <hobgoblin> go ahead nigelbabu :)
[14:08] <ZachK_> If it was me hobgoblin would you still say yes? Lmao
[14:08] <hobgoblin> yep of course ZachK_ :)
[14:08] <ZachK_> Lol
[14:14] <hobgoblin> ZachK_: you got PC sorted now?
[14:15] <ZachK_> hobgoblin: Wha?
[14:15] <hobgoblin> last time we spoke you were online with a phone or something
[14:16] <benjamintheyon> I have kind of a graphical question - is there a way to make icons stand out more on a busy background, short of editing the image to provide a space for them?
[14:17] <ZachK_> hobgoblin: Oh yeah I got a pc...right now I'm using my iPod cause I'm at my grandparents house
[14:17] <hobgoblin> ZachK_: technology is a wonderful thing - you'd not have been doing that 30 years ago on a walkman ;)
[14:18] <hobgoblin> benjamintheyon: maybe rethink the way you use your desktop - mine is bare ...  anything I put on there stands out
[14:18] <ZachK_> hobgoblin: Agreed
[14:18] <hobgoblin> benjamintheyon: maybe use resized icons
[14:19] <hobgoblin> benjamintheyon: you can resize the things on the desktop - but that works on all that is there
[14:20] <benjamintheyon> hobgoblin: that's how I usually operate, to be honest. I doctored an image to give a muted area for icons and it looks good. I was just wondering if there was a software that'd do it automatically and allow me to drag the border to change the size the "icon area"
[14:20] <hobgoblin> so resizing won't work on second thoughts
[14:20] <hobgoblin> I think you can stretch them
[14:22] <benjamintheyon> I guess ideally I could make a little "tray" object on the desktop, but I have no idea if there is something that'll do that. I'm pretty new to Ubuntu and just exploring what my possibilities are
[14:23] <hobgoblin> benjamintheyon: have you tried the stretch - right click the icon - should be in the menu
[14:23] <benjamintheyon> well, it isn't really the icon I'd like to size. maybe Im not explaining myself, let me try again.
[14:24] <benjamintheyon> basically, I usually use a very simple desktop background image; icons look much nicer when they aren't sitting on top of some crazy busy pattern/image
[14:25] <benjamintheyon> I wanted to dress it up with something a little different, BUT I want to keep the ability to see my icons clearly too. So I edited the image to provide a space for my icons at the left of the screen that is very muted.
[14:25] <benjamintheyon> It works, but it isn't dynamic at all. If I wind up with a second row of files/launchers/etc....I'll have to remake the changes on the image using gimp. see what I'm saying?
[14:27] <hobgoblin> oic
[14:28] <benjamintheyon> I just figured as cool as Ubuntu is, and with such a focus on usability, something might exist to allow that. kind of a dynamic tray for icons on the desktop
[14:28] <hobgoblin> I have no idea then - sounds like the sort of thing you should be able to find/sort out
[14:28] <hobgoblin> I would be inclined to try a post on the forum - there are more people looking there than in here
[14:29] <hobgoblin> if you do I would go to the Desktop Environment forum - http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=329
[14:29] <benjamintheyon> That's probably what I'll go with. I have a feeling someone's created something similar. Thanks!
[14:29] <hobgoblin> there might even be a channel - let me have a look
[14:30] <van> anybody know how I can use a different sound device on skype?
[14:31] <Akos> van: sure, you need to enable it via skype's settings
[14:31] <hobgoblin> benjamintheyon: there is a deskytop channel - but I would think it is not quite what you would want - might be worth a question in there - it is in ubuntu namespace so you shouldn't get any un-ubuntu answers
[14:31] <hobgoblin> benjamintheyon: #ubuntu-desktop
[14:31] <benjamintheyon> thanks a bunch!
[14:32] <hobgoblin> benjamintheyon: but I think forum would be best bet
[14:32] <van> Akos, the problem is that I cannot make any changes on skype settings from Pulseaudio
[14:37] <ZachK_> van: Ah audio input output settings are in skype my mahn
[14:37] <Akos> van: you don't need to do changes from Pulseaudio, just from within Skype
[14:39] <van> Akos, from within Skype-sound devices-speakers, I get "pulseaudio server" as my only option
[14:40] <shahan> skype is good for windows
[14:40] <shahan> but I am not satisfied using skype in ubuntu
[14:40] <shahan> skype dont give good performance on ubuntu
[14:40] <shahan> in windows skype give awesome performance
[14:40] <van> shahan: so you suggesting the solution is to install windows?
[14:40] <van> lol how didn't I think of that?
[14:41] <Akos> van: well, i'd say then uninstall pulseaudio, but i can't give you support if anything wrong happens, so you should ask on the forums or wait around here, and maybe a sound device guru could come around (:
[14:41] <shahan> van
[14:41] <van> That's good enough for me Akos, I think I'll way. thanks :)
[14:41] <van> wait*
[14:41] <Akos> my pleasure (:
[14:42] <shahan> van: never I will suggest u to install in windows
[14:42] <shahan> van: I am telling you that it give better performance in windows
[14:42] <shahan> van: no...
[14:42] <van> shahan, yeap and the sky is blue and the earth round
[14:45] <LzrdKing> it happens sometimes....
[15:00] <demihalf> hi all, can anybody help me with xp-ubuntu lan setup? i managed to see shared files from xp, but i can't understand how to see ubuntu's files.
[15:12] <LzrdKing> demihalf: right click the folder and go to sharing
[15:12] <LzrdKing> share it and it will show up as a network share in xp
[15:59] <demihalf> LzrdKing: already tried this, doesn't work
[16:00] <LzrdKing> what happens?
[16:04] <demihalf> nothing. and when i open network in xp it can't see ubuntu computer
[16:05] <LzrdKing> check your workgroup
[16:06] <LzrdKing> or go to \\computername
[16:06] <LzrdKing> or just leave
[16:32] <vangelis> Does anyone have any idea why ubuntu 10.04 will not log me in after requesting for password? (it is set not to ask for password btw)
[17:21] <mfarshada_> Hi everybody
[17:21] <mfarshada_> I am new to I
[17:21] <mfarshada_> IRC
[17:21] <mfarshada_> can anybody teach me how to use it?
[17:22] <Ken8521> mfarshada_, well what do you want to know?
[17:22] <Jon_Monreal> mfarshada_: Hello. Do you need help setting up your client, are you seeking help?
[17:22] <mfarshada_> well, I want know about the command. tricks, how to share files, etc
[17:23] <Ken8521> mfarshada_, read the manual?
[17:23] <mfarshada_> not yet
[17:23] <mfarshada_> waht is the best manual on this?
[17:23] <mfarshada_> also quick
[17:23] <Ken8521> well, quick isn't going to be a part of it.
[17:24] <mfarshada_> fine
[17:24] <Ken8521> are you using xchat?
[17:24] <mfarshada_> konversation
[17:24] <mfarshada_> but xchat is also installed
[17:24] <mfarshada_> n working properly
[17:25] <Ken8521> mfarshada_, i'd say this is where you want to start
[17:25] <Ken8521> http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-network/konversation/index.html
[17:26] <mfarshada_> ok, thanks
[17:28] <mfarshada_> when I want to answer to somebody, do I have to type its whole nickname, or there is a shortcut for this?
[17:28] <mfarshada_> because I see you even included '_' in my nickname!!
[17:29] <hobgoblin> tab complete mfarshada_
[17:30] <hobgoblin> type a few letters then tab
[17:30] <mfarshada_> hobgoblin: great!
[17:30] <mfarshada_> hobgoblin: thnks
[17:43] <Jon_Monreal> Is there anyone here that could tell me more about joining the team?
[17:45] <Ken8521> Jon_Monreal, #ubuntu-devel    ?
[17:46] <Jon_Monreal> Ken8521: No, the Beginners Team
[17:46] <phillw> Jon_Monreal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeamI
[17:46] <phillw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam
[17:46] <Ken8521> Jon_Monreal, nobody there can point you were to go?
[17:47] <Jon_Monreal> Already seen the document; I'm more interested in knowing if my contributions so far are sufficient.
[17:49] <phillw> Jon_Monreal: you need a padawn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Padawan has details of aquiring one, if you don't know anyone on the beginners team.
[17:50] <hobgoblin> Jon_Monreal: depends what it is you want to do
[17:50] <Jon_Monreal> I just generally want to get a bit more involved. I've been active helping on the forums for quite some time.
[17:50] <hobgoblin> and where you feel you're knowledge is best suited
[18:20] <ZachK_> Sup y'all
[19:32] <john____> hello!
[19:32] <john____> i need some help
[19:32] <john____> really_
[19:32] <john____> i need help
[19:33] <john____> hey
[19:33] <john____> hey
[19:33] <john____> yay
[19:33] <john____> i need help
[19:33] <john____> someone
[19:33] <john____> please
[19:33] <john____> answer me
[19:33] <john____> respndame
[19:33] <john____> good morning
[19:33] <john____> buenos dias
[19:33] <john____> hello
[19:33] <john____> alo
[19:33] <john____> bonjour!
[19:34] <pedro3005> .. hi
[19:34] <john____> que tal pedro
[19:34] <john____> usas ubuntu?
[19:34] <pedro3005> yes
[19:34] <john____> necesito ayuda!!!!!!!!!!
[19:34] <john____> genia
[19:34] <john____> cool, do you know xubuntu?
[19:34] <pedro3005> A bit, yes, what about it?
[19:35] <john____> i need to mound my hard drive, because i only see the cd rom, actually i am using it on livecd
[19:37] <john____> bye i lover you
[19:37] <pedro3005> ...
[20:44] <dragondon> greetings all
[20:45] <pedro3005> hello
[20:50] <dragondon> I'm getting some data from my firewall in the logs and would like to know what I can ignore and what I should fix.  Any takers?
[21:07] <AJH101> Hi I have a problem logging into Lucid - can anyone help?
[21:07]  * dragondon looking at crickets....
[21:08] <drubin> AJH101: Sure what is the problem
[21:08] <AJH101> It was working fine but suddenly I enter my pwd and although I do not get 'authorisation failure' I am presented with the login screen again
[21:09] <AJH101> ls /home has my first name but that does not work
[21:10] <AJH101> Am not sure what files to alter if I restart with installation CD either
[21:11] <AJH101> Any ideas anyone?!
[21:12] <AJH101> I have been told i should delete some xauthorisation files but do not know where to look.
[21:13] <AJH101> what do you guys think?
[21:18] <AJH101> Anybody there?! lol
[21:22] <drubin> AJH101: mmm
[21:22] <drubin> Can you log into the machine at all
[21:23] <AJH101> no! :-(
[21:23] <drubin> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[21:23] <drubin> AJH101: that is your best bet to try then
[21:25] <AJH101> ok will try now thanks
[21:25] <drubin> AJH101: that should solve your issue
[21:30] <arachnid> anyone here?
[21:31] <dragondon> nope :P
[21:32] <AJH101> Drubin: no joy there - back to login screen!
[21:34] <arachnid> lol i had a question for use in terminal on ubuntu
[21:34] <arachnid> how do i open an application straight from terminal
[21:35] <arachnid> i cant seem to find the folder where that applications are listed
[21:39] <drubin> AJH101: So you booted into the live cd and did the chroot and then change password?
[21:41] <dragondon> @arachnid typically you just type the name of the application.
[21:42] <AJH101> Drubin yes I did.
[21:44] <AJH101> Drubin: I found: sudo chmod 777 /tmp but that now generates the msg that the gnome configuration has not been installed - have i broken my system?!
[21:45] <AJH101> Drubin: I found: sudo chmod -r 777 /tmp but that now generates the msg that the gnome configuration has not been installed - have i broken my system?!
[21:45] <AJH101> aargh!
[21:47] <AJH101> Drubin: I think i mis
[21:48] <AJH101> Drubin: I think i misunderstood previously - i can enter rescue mode but changing my pwd there similarly has no effect
[21:48] <LzrdKing> AJH101: rm -rf /tmp/* and reboot
[21:48] <drubin> AJH101: That article doesn't say rescue mode it says LIVE CD
[21:49] <AJH101> Drubin yes i tried rescue mode fist then live cd when suggested
[21:49] <drubin> AJH101: Then I honestly have no more suggestions
[21:50] <AJH101> Drubin sudo rm has had no effect - curser just blinking
[21:51] <drubin> AJH101: I don't know what else to say.
[21:55] <AJH101> Drubin: I think I may need to copy /home before reinstalling?! :-(
[22:31] <tatica1> Hello I need some help here
[22:31] <tatica1> I just installed 10.04
[22:31] <tatica1> but i can't see videos in Youtube
[22:32] <tatica1> can someone help me please?
[22:39] <pleia2> tatica1: sounds like a problem with flash, do you get some kind of error when you try?
[22:39] <tatica1> yes
[22:39] <tatica1> it doesn't run
[22:40] <tatica1> and it says an error occurs, please try again
[22:40] <tatica1> in all the videos
[22:40] <tatica1> also it happens in Qik
[22:41] <pleia2> is this in a browser?
[22:41] <tatica1> I downloaded Flash but I don know if I miss somethig
[22:41] <tatica1> yes
[22:47] <pleia2> did you download it via the package manager, or from the flash website?
[22:48] <tatica1> flash website
[22:50] <pleia2> might have better luck with the flash package (I don't know the precise name at the moment)
[22:50] <pleia2> I don't really know how the one from the website works
[22:50] <tatica1> mmm ok
[22:51] <tatica1> tks
[22:56] <geirha> tatica1: You can install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[22:57] <tatica1> geirha: how is that?
[22:57] <geirha> It installs adobe flash along with some other packages you might need; MS fonts, several video codecs and such
[22:57] <tatica1> ok
[22:58] <tatica1> how I can do it?
[22:58] <geirha> You'll find it Applications -> Software Center
[22:58] <geirha> Just search for restricted extras
[22:59] <tatica1> ohhh ok
[22:59] <tatica1> thank you
[23:04] <arachnid> hey
[23:04] <arachnid> where is the application folder on the hard drive - how would i start a program from terminal
[23:06] <geirha> There's no application folder. Applications are spread over several directories.
[23:07] <arachnid> so how would one open an application from terminal
[23:07] <geirha> The executables are typically put in /usr/bin/
[23:08] <geirha> You need to figure out what the name of the binary that starts it is.
[23:08] <arachnid> ok cool thanks
[23:09] <geirha> Looking at the menu entry should tell you, or   dpkg -L package-name  to list all the files that package installs.