[18:00]  * fader_ waves.
[18:00] <ameetp> o/
[18:00] <pedro_> hola hola
[18:00] <fader_> marjo is not available so he has asked me to chair the meeting today.
[18:01] <fader_> #startmeeting
[18:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 12:01. The chair is fader_.
[18:01] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[18:01] <fader_> Agenda:
[18:01] <fader_> * SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie)
[18:01] <fader_> * Bug Day status -- pvillavi
[18:01] <fader_> * UDS QA Track - ara
[18:01] <fader_> [TOPIC] SRU testing -- sbeattie
[18:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  SRU testing -- sbeattie
[18:01] <sbeattie> SRU Activity report for the past week (since 2010-04-28):
[18:01] <sbeattie> * lucid: 55 new packages in -proposed
[18:01] <sbeattie>      and 6 packages pushed to -updates (librsvg, linux, migration-assistant, pkg-create-dbgsym, planner, ubiquity)
[18:01] <sbeattie> * karmic: 5 new packages in -proposed (apt-mirror, etoys, installation-guide, sbuild, tzdata)
[18:01] <sbeattie>       and 10 packages pushed to -updates (compiz, debian-installer, gnome-games, linux, linux-backports-modules-2.6.31, mythtvfs-fuse, sun-java6, trac-git, tzdata, xfce4-power-manager)
[18:01] <sbeattie> * jaunty: 2 new packages in -proposed (etoys, tzdata)
[18:01] <sbeattie>       and 2 packages pushed to -updates (kopete-cryptography, tzdata)
[18:01] <sbeattie> * intrepid: no longer maintained
[18:01] <sbeattie> * hardy: 2 new packages in -proposed (nfs-utils, tzdata)
[18:02] <sbeattie>      and 3 packages pushed to -updates (debian-installer, linux, tzdata)
[18:02] <sbeattie> * dapper: 1 new package in -proposed (langpack-locales)
[18:02] <sbeattie>       and 1 package pushed to -updates (langpack-locales)
[18:02] <sbeattie> Thanks to mhall119, arand, Fabio Marconi (njin), André V, Daniel Muller, Peter Schaefer, Leo Milano, jmrbachiller, Stefan Ebner (sebner), Sel Goona, Moritz Heiber (Moe), YoBoY, Mitch Towner (kermiac), Harald Sitter (apachelogger), Thorsten Reinbold, marmuta, kristoffer, Andy Owen (TheNewAndy) and others for testing SRUs this week.
[18:02] <sbeattie> Lots of activity, lots of packages landed in lucid that need testing.
[18:02] <fader_> Yeah, no kidding... much more activity than last week :)
[18:03] <fader_> Any questions/comments about SRU testing?
[18:04] <fader_> Okay, thanks sbeattie!
[18:04] <fader_> [TOPIC]  Bug Day status -- pedro_
[18:04] <MootBot> New Topic:   Bug Day status -- pedro_
[18:04] <pedro_> On Thursday 29 we had a bug day based on Bugs without a package: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100429
[18:04] <pedro_> ~60 bugs were triaged that day
[18:05] <pedro_> Thanks a lot to our Bug day heroes: dgtombs, kamusin, yofel, vish, micahg, ddecator, sbarjola, ara, mistrynitesh and michl
[18:05] <pedro_> There's nothing scheduled for tomorrow, we'll come back with more bug days after UDS ;-)
[18:06] <pedro_> that's all from here fader_ unless there's a question
[18:07] <fader_> Any questions for pedro_?
[18:07] <fader_> Thanks, pedro_!
[18:07] <fader_> [TOPIC] UDS QA Track -- ara
[18:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  UDS QA Track -- ara
[18:07] <fader_> And I don't see ara :)
[18:07] <fader_> I believe this was a leftover from last week anyway.
[18:08] <fader_> I will just remind everyone to make sure you've checked the UDS pages and added any topics you feel are missing
[18:08]  * fader_ goes to grab the link.
[18:08] <pedro_> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-m/track/qa/
[18:08] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-m/track/qa/
[18:08] <fader_> Heh, thanks pedro_, you're one step ahead of me :)
[18:09] <fader_> I hope everyone is ready for UDS!
[18:09] <pedro_> hah, there's a few new sessions compared to last week , looking forward to UDS ;-)
[18:09] <fader_> Any last-minute UDS-related topics to discuss before next week?
[18:09] <bladernr> who's participating in UDS-Kilt Day?
[18:09] <bladernr> ;-)
[18:09] <fader_> pedro_: Yes, all of us slackers getting our sessions registered at the last minute :)
[18:09] <fader_> bladernr: o/
[18:10] <fader_> Everybody bring a kilt :)
[18:10] <hggdh> er. would a kitty be good?
[18:10] <fader_> hggdh: Not sure if you can wear one the same way... that might be animal cruelty.
[18:10] <hggdh> :-)
[18:11] <fader_> [TOPIC] AOB
[18:11] <MootBot> New Topic:  AOB
[18:11] <fader_> Any other business?
[18:12] <fader_> Doesn't look like it...
[18:12] <fader_> Thanks everyone!  See you at UDS!
[18:12] <fader_> #endmeeting
[18:12] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 12:12.
[18:12] <pedro_> Thanks!
[18:12] <schwuk> Thanks fader_
[18:13] <charlie-tca> quick and painless today
[18:54] <YoBoY> you're welcome sbeattie
[19:26] <sbalneav> Boo
[19:55] <highvoltage> hey sbalneav
[20:01] <highvoltage> QuickQuickMeeting!™
[20:01] <mhall119> o/
[20:01] <highvoltage> On the development side it's quick at least,
[20:01] <mhall119> look look, I'm actually here for one
[20:02] <bencrisford> mhall119: yay! :)
[20:02]  * stgraber waves
[20:02] <highvoltage> sbalneav has beenfixingfixingbugs and I'll be helping him out witha few packaging questions when we manage to sync up :)
[20:02] <mhall119> anyone know what time of day UDS sessions will be starting?
[20:02] <highvoltage> (oops and the laptop I'm on now has a bad spacebad)
[20:02] <highvoltage> *spacebar
[20:02] <stgraber> 9am UTC+2
[20:02] <bencrisford> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-m/
[20:02] <mhall119> oh no
[20:02] <mhall119> :(
[20:03] <highvoltage> mhall119: yeah not very american-zone friendly :/
[20:03] <bencrisford> mhall119: and the end just when I get home :/
[20:03] <stgraber> so that's 3am EDT
[20:03] <sbalneav> A bad spacebad?!
[20:03] <sbalneav> sounds.... bad!
[20:03] <mhall119> logs it is then
[20:03] <highvoltage> sbalneav: it is!
[20:03] <bencrisford> mhall119: for me too :(
[20:03] <mhall119> I might make the last couple sessions
[20:04] <highvoltage> stgraber has also registered our specifications forthesessions at UDS, schedule will only be available from monday morning onwards
[20:04] <highvoltage> stgraber: if you could manipulate the schedule so that sessions are rather later than earlier, that would be great :)
[20:04] <mhall119> highvoltage: I'd imagine everyone will by vying for later sessions
[20:05] <highvoltage> mhall119: except people from Asia :)
[20:05] <mhall119> on behalf of their american remote participants
[20:05] <mhall119> true
[20:05] <mhall119> but we americans whine more
[20:05] <highvoltage> mhall119: not that it seems like that will beabig problem for us though
[20:05] <stgraber> highvoltage: yeah, I'll try to have them in the afternoons
[20:06] <bencrisford> not just american participants, anyone who cant get IRC at school/work on UTC, UTC+1 is kind of stuffed
[20:06] <highvoltage> that's basically it for technical, unless there's anything else?
[20:06] <bencrisford> yes!
[20:06] <highvoltage> bencrisford: fire away
[20:06] <bencrisford> not sure it comes under technical actually..  but ive started now ;P
[20:07] <bencrisford> the other day I was looking around for some software to do revision timetables for me
[20:07] <bencrisford> and I couldn't find one for linux
[20:07] <mhall119> what are revision timetables?
[20:07] <bencrisford> like, if you have alot of exams
[20:07] <bencrisford> scheduling revision
[20:08] <mhall119> ok
[20:08] <highvoltage> hmm, Schooltool is supposed to have quite advanced scheduling capabilities. not that I've tried it yet :)
[20:08] <mhall119> is this for students or teachers?
[20:08] <bencrisford> im thinking of starting work on one :), I was wondering if you guys thought it would be a good idea or if there is anything else
[20:08] <bencrisford> mhall119: hopefully both
[20:08] <bencrisford> so teachers/schools could use it for lession scheduling
[20:08] <mhall119> I'd look at schooltool first
[20:08] <bencrisford> and students for revision
[20:08] <mhall119> see if it can be extended to do what you need
[20:08] <bencrisford> ok, I'll do that :)
[20:08] <sbalneav> I'll be getting involved in: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenLDAP-DIT
[20:08] <mhall119> otherwise, go for it
[20:08] <bencrisford> but I thought it could be a pretty cool thing
[20:08] <highvoltage> yeah, schooltool is probably most likely to be supported by Canonical too at some point since it's also funded by sabdfl
[20:09] <bencrisford> and it could know when your exams are, and make sure you revise everything
[20:09] <highvoltage> bencrisford: schooltool didn't make it into 10.04 because of zope dependencies, which are likely to be fixed for 10.10
[20:09] <mhall119> highvoltage: are the zope issues that it used to have resolved?
[20:09] <alkisg> Hi all
[20:09] <bencrisford> !info fet
[20:10] <bencrisford> well, I was wrong :P ^
[20:10] <highvoltage> bencrisford: so if schooltool doesn't quite have that yet it might be a good idea to contribute there. but it's up to you and I'm not 100% sure how complicated it is to contribute. all up to you of course!
[20:10] <bencrisford> it was just one of the ideas I had rattling about in my head
[20:10] <bencrisford> most of them turn to nothing :P
[20:11] <highvoltage> well it's noted now fwiw :)
[20:11] <mhall119> if there's ever a need for a webapp, and it can be done in Django, I'm all in
[20:11] <bencrisford> :)
[20:11] <highvoltage> bencrisford: perhaps if fet looks useful you can do a write-up about it and we can include it anyway
[20:12] <bencrisford> highvoltage: sounds good, i'll look into it
[20:12] <highvoltage> righto! let's move on to community
[20:12]  * bencrisford scribbles "timetable software" on a post-it
[20:12] <bencrisford> noted :)
[20:12] <highvoltage> oppl joined in for the classroom session tonight and showed some interest
[20:12] <mhall119> Tomboy FTW
[20:13] <highvoltage> oppl: would you like to introduce yourself?
[20:13] <oppl> sure
[20:13] <oppl> I'm a computer scientist from Austria working at the University of Linz
[20:14] <oppl> I'm currently finishing my PhD on how to support cooperative learning processes using tangible tabletop interfaces
[20:14] <mhall119> like touchscreen tables?
[20:14] <oppl> so I broadened my scope a bit and got into educational sciences, cognitive sciences and sociology
[20:15] <oppl> mhall119: yes, basically ... but using tangible elements on the table
[20:15] <oppl> to represent and mesh concepts basically
[20:16] <oppl> further work will include to integrate the physically built models back into virtual, distributed learning environments
[20:16] <highvoltage> oppl: that sounds quite valueble to a project like edubuntu! do you have any free time available to get involved?
[20:16] <highvoltage> (or share information on your studies?)
[20:16] <oppl> maybe both
[20:16] <oppl> as soon as I've finished my PhD :-)
[20:17] <oppl> that should be the case latest in june
[20:17] <mhall119> oppl: sounds cool and exciting
[20:17] <bencrisford> oppl: :D
[20:17] <oppl> I'm also thinking about involving my students
[20:17] <highvoltage> oppl: heh, one of our previous contributors had to delay his phd quite a bit due to edubuntu contributions!
[20:17] <highvoltage> oppl: so finishing your phd first sounds like a good idea :)
[20:18] <oppl> unfortunately it's already delayed ... there are so many other interesting things
[20:18] <oppl> but as i said ... maybe I could provide manpower through student's projects
[20:18] <highvoltage> oppl: feedback from students will be great as we expand a bit more into the tertiary zone, which few of us know a lot about
[20:19] <oppl> that's what I thought about
[20:19] <highvoltage> oppl: well, I hope that you'll hang around with us! and welcome to Edubuntu, officially :)
[20:19] <oppl> we are into teaching process modelling and interactive systems modelling
[20:20] <oppl> would be interesting to examine, what's available and possible in that are with FOSS
[20:20] <highvoltage> oppl: I think we might have to have a session one day where you explain all these things! it sounds quite self-explanetory what it is but it would be nice to know how you actually do that!
[20:20] <oppl> highvoltage: thx
[20:21] <oppl> highvoltage: sure, I'm at your service :-)
[20:21] <highvoltage> let's move on to the advocacy project, which also more or less ties in with some of what oppl is talking about
[20:21] <highvoltage> bencrisford: I told you earlier that my boss (also Ben) is interested in joining
[20:22] <highvoltage> he joined the LP group but he actually wanted to join a mailing list
[20:22] <highvoltage> I was wondering whether it would worth while starting a list on LP for that?
[20:22] <bencrisford> highvoltage: I did think about that...
[20:23] <highvoltage> Ben sells Edubuntu every day and speaks to many non-technical teachers and educational people who we could get in touch with
[20:23] <bencrisford> ok, awesome
[20:23] <bencrisford> I think I might remember accepting him actually
[20:23] <highvoltage> he'd like to round them up so that could have some semi-formal way of communicating with them and also receive some feedback
[20:23] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yep, I think he joined it yesterday
[20:23] <bencrisford> I saw he was in the revolution linux lp team so I accepted him
[20:23] <bencrisford> I guess that was him
[20:24] <highvoltage> some of oppl's students may also be interested in that
[20:24] <highvoltage> yep, it was
[20:25] <highvoltage> bencrisford: I think once we have a bunch of real life people combined with that list and our new site, we could actually do some cool things
[20:25] <bencrisford> yeah :D:D
[20:26] <highvoltage> great, I'll ping you again tomorrow and also put you in touch with Ben
[20:26] <highvoltage> he's really passionate about this and I think he'll also put some great energy into it
[20:27] <bencrisford> :D
[20:27] <highvoltage> great, so we'll follow up on that tomorrow
[20:27] <bencrisford> sounds good
[20:28] <highvoltage> anything else for this meeting?
[20:28] <highvoltage> bencrisford: gongtime
[20:29] <highvoltage> ok bencrisford seems busy :)
[20:29] <highvoltage> *GONG*
[20:30] <highvoltage> quickquickmeeting™ adjourned, thanks everyone!
[20:30] <bencrisford> :)