[00:11] <cclausen> storrgie: hmm... I am not sure what happened
[00:16] <dominicdinada> Hi, Does anybody know about the Broadcom 440x NIC ? Which drivers are needed. I have my Winblows drivers but somehow I doubt they will work
[00:16] <dominicdinada> The only documentation I can google refers to the BCM440x chipset and wireless always shows up however it is not a wireless
[00:19] <gop1> what a good hypervisor that would work in a 32 bit system with 3.0 ghz and 3 gigs of ramn
[00:19] <gop1> I want for test lab
[00:32] <lifeless> gop1: kvm
[00:38] <gop1> lifeless KVM runs widnows 2003 server
[00:38] <lifeless> gop1: don't know, don't care!
[00:43] <cclausen> gop1: I think xen is the only hypervisor that runs on 32-bit.  Note that you probably cannot run windows guests though, just Linux ones due to how the 32-bit version works
[00:48] <dominicdinada> The only documentation I can google refers to the BCM440x chipset and wireless always shows up however it is not a wireless
[00:48] <dominicdinada> Hi, Does anybody know about the Broadcom 440x NIC ? Which drivers are needed. I have my Winblows drivers but somehow I doubt they will work
[00:48] <dominicdinada> Hi, Does anybody know about the Broadcom 440x NIC ? Which drivers are needed. I have my Winblows drivers but somehow I doubt they will work
[00:49] <dominicdinada> shoot sorry wrong order
[00:50] <cclausen> dominicdinada: I take it it doesn't just work by default?
[00:51] <dominicdinada> well when I run ifconfig my eth0 is not listed
[00:52] <dominicdinada> so I assume not
[00:54] <dominicdinada> and Dmesg reports it using Network-Msanager :/
[00:55] <Maleko> what's new in ubuntu 10.04 server ed
[01:00] <dominicdinada> Hi, Does anybody know about the Broadcom 440x NIC ? Which drivers are needed. I have my Winblows drivers but somehow I doubt they will work
[01:00] <dominicdinada> The only documentation I can google refers to the BCM440x chipset and wireless always shows up however it is not a wireless
[01:00] <neverblue> i would like to better understand my apache2 layout in Ubuntu
[01:01] <neverblue> if I want to setup a site, is it best to just use the default /var/www ? or use a folder within a users' dir ?
[01:01] <cclausen> neverblue: if you will onlt setup a single site, yes, just use /var/www
[01:02] <cclausen> dominicdinada: asking the same thing many times doesn't make people want to help you
[01:02] <neverblue> and what about the sites-enabled dir ?
[01:02] <dominicdinada> cclausen:  No but if someone was shelled or on a different window well then they will see it
[01:02] <neverblue> for virtual host configs
[01:02] <dominicdinada> That is neither Spam not flooding
[01:03] <dominicdinada> There are no rules against asking a legitament question until someone either acknowledges it and or the problem has been solved
[01:03] <dominicdinada> Thanks
[01:03] <neverblue> should I look into using sites-enabled ?
[01:04] <neverblue> or just leave it, as I am just using a single site...
[01:04] <cclausen> neverblue: just use the sites-enabled/default config file
[01:04] <cclausen> err, I guess it would be 000-default
[01:05] <neverblue> ok, what about reading my .php, rather than index.html when going to my site, is that managed in apache2.conf of the default conf ?
[01:08] <neverblue> or the*
[01:08] <npope> my google foo is failing me right now
[01:08] <npope> anyone remember how to redirect local user mail to another address?
[01:09] <cclausen> npope: aliases file do that?
[01:10] <cclausen> neverblue: you can probably set it in either location
[01:10] <neverblue> ok, ill google it
[01:10] <neverblue> thanks
[01:10] <npope> cclausen: thats it
[01:10] <npope> thanks man
[01:10] <npope> cclausen++
[01:13] <cclausen> neverblue: DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.shtml
[01:14] <cclausen> neverblue: if that doesn't exist in apaceh2.conf right now, I'd add that to your sites-enabled/000-default file and NOT add it to apache2.conf
[01:19] <dominicdinada> Hi, Does anybody know about the Broadcom 440x NIC ? Which drivers are needed. I have my Winblows drivers but somehow I doubt they will work
[01:19] <dominicdinada> The only documentation I can google refers to the BCM440x chipset and wireless always shows up however it is not a wireless
[01:27] <cclausen> dominicdinada: modprobe b44
[01:27] <cclausen> lsmod | grep b44
[01:27] <cclausen> does the module load?
[01:27] <dominicdinada> ok let me check
[01:28] <dominicdinada> cclausen: ummm after reboot it is working I can ping www.google.com
[01:28] <dominicdinada> I found the problem :(
[01:28] <cclausen> dominicdinada: so you don't have a problem with your network?
[01:29] <dominicdinada> Well we will see I ran sudo aptitude update
[01:29] <dominicdinada> The problem was in the networks file....
[01:30] <dominicdinada> cclausen: Although I will have problems once I start configuring this to be a WAP also since it detects my wireless cards and can connect but doesnt have internet access
[01:30] <cclausen> dominicdinada: did you actually setup something to route traffic between wireless and wired?
[01:31] <dominicdinada> I am getting to that point to grab the packages :(
[01:32] <dominicdinada> Right now I am grabbing the gnome enviroment
[01:47] <dominicdinada> blah shoulda got gnome-core
[01:52] <dominicdinada> cclausen: which package would i grab for the wired to wireless ?
[01:59] <cclausen> dominicdinada: I do not now know.  what was your plan to make your system a wireless access point?
[02:00] <dominicdinada> I was getting to that point I know I read or saw the howto guide to allow it I will search after i get things configured
[02:04] <dominicdinada> !wireless access point
[02:07] <Jeeves_Moss> what would be causing this error?  http://pastebin.com/ZyCt11BL
[02:08] <dominicdinada> !remote
[02:36] <storrgie> how do i specify route?
[02:37] <dominicdinada> !ssh
[02:37] <dominicdinada> !ssh config
[02:42] <dominicdinada> Can someone give me a hand with ssh ?
[02:43] <storrgie> dominicdinada: whats up
[02:43] <storrgie> i'll try
[02:43] <storrgie> but im insane busy with my servah
[02:43] <dominicdinada> ok I read the Faq and I am still baffled on some things
[02:43] <storrgie> start shooting questions
[02:43] <storrgie> i will try to help
[02:44] <storrgie> if i dont respond, include my name in the message
[02:44] <storrgie> storrgie: like this
[02:44] <dominicdinada> storrgie,  I know that... Basically from the default config file... is this set at this moment to allow ( users ) to login... Like any user of this computer?
[02:45] <storrgie> if you have a default config
[02:45] <storrgie> then yes
[02:45] <storrgie> your machine, without any firewall rules... or external firewall like router will allow log in on port 22
[02:45] <dominicdinada> so any user of this machine is able to login via remotly
[02:46] <dominicdinada> Well at this point I have to switch computers and still want access to continue to configure this computer
[02:47] <storrgie> I believe so
[02:47] <storrgie> ahh
[02:47] <storrgie> yeah so switch to another computer on the nework
[02:47] <storrgie> ssh -p <port> <servername>
[02:47] <storrgie> your port is 22
[02:48] <dominicdinada> ok i will i still have a little bit left
[02:48] <dominicdinada> well i am going to use putty
[02:48] <dominicdinada> I am used to putty with cisco routers however I want to choose tty correct?
[02:48] <storrgie> http://blog.agdunn.net/?p=54
[02:48] <storrgie> i dont think so
[02:48] <storrgie> just use defaults
[02:48] <storrgie> that link is my blog, has a decent setup
[02:49] <storrgie> not the best ofcourse... but I typically use some variation of my own advice
[02:49] <dominicdinada> ok one more important question... by default it is binded to this machine ?
[02:50] <dominicdinada> i noticed in the config it says 0.0.0.0 and i will read your blog on the other computer
[02:51] <billybigrigger> does anyone here run a jabber server?
[02:53] <storrgie> yep
[02:54] <storrgie> bound to local
[02:54] <storrgie> anyone familiar with specifying static routes in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[02:54] <cclausen> billybigrigger: I help run http://chat.illinois.edu
[02:54] <cclausen> storrgie: what static routes do you need?  I thought you had everything on one subnet?
[02:54] <storrgie> I am
[02:54] <storrgie> but it keeps getting two gateways remember?
[02:54] <storrgie> its ok right now
[02:55] <storrgie> but it screwed up earlier
[02:55] <cclausen> storrgie: in your case, I think you can just use the route command to remove the bad route
[02:56] <storrgie> I would like to add a line to /etc/network/interfaces to specify the proper route
[02:56] <storrgie> which should be to my gateway right?
[02:56] <billybigrigger> cclausen, hmm...well i have configured jabber as per the doc on the wiki, and when i fire up empathy i can't seem to login to my server
[02:56] <billybigrigger> either using my system username, or trying to create a new one via empathy
[02:58] <cclausen> billybigrigger: what jabber server?  ejabberd?  can you get more debug info?
[02:58] <cclausen> storrgie: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/configuring-static-routes-in-debian-or-red-hat-linux-systems.html
[02:59] <billybigrigger> jabberd2
[02:59] <cclausen> storrgie: but I don't think you need to add a route
[02:59] <storrgie> hrm
[02:59] <storrgie> well i can let it run for the night and try it out later
[02:59] <storrgie> but i think it dropped the route
[02:59] <storrgie> or picked up two 'defaults'
[03:00] <TuxIce> Can I use bzr to manage non-open source projects?
[03:02] <ScottK> Certainly.
[03:03] <ScottK> Launchpad, not unless you pay them.
[03:03] <cclausen> TuxIce: probably
[03:03] <TuxIce> But, If I were to roll my own server, I could definatly use it for closed source projects?
[03:03] <cclausen> billybigrigger: did you try creating an account from your jabber client?
[03:04] <billybigrigger> yup
[03:04] <billybigrigger> empathy is giving me network connection errors
[03:04] <storrgie> cclausen: suggest i let the thing run for a while?
[03:05] <cclausen> storrgie: if something is dynamically changing your routing table without your knowledge, you have bigger problems
[03:05] <storrgie> cclausen: are you familiar with things that blog brute force attemps via logs?
[03:05] <cclausen> storrgie: you mean block ?
[03:06] <cclausen> storrgie: I use fail2ban to stop ssh brute force attempts
[03:06] <storrgie> !fail2ban
[03:06] <storrgie> hrm
[03:06] <storrgie> i know there are others
[03:06] <ScottK> TuxIce: Yes.
[03:07] <TuxIce> Okay
[03:07] <cclausen> billybigrigger: are you sure the server is running?  use netstat -ant to look for open ports.  I think 5223 for XMPP maybe?
[03:08] <billybigrigger> 5222
[03:08] <cclausen> 5223 is for SSL
[03:08] <billybigrigger> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5222            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[03:08] <cclausen> I hope you aren't sending your machine login and password over non-SSL
[03:08] <billybigrigger> havent setup ssl
[03:08] <cclausen> but yes, it looks like you have something listening on 5222
[03:08] <billybigrigger> just trying to get this to work
[03:09] <neverblue> if someone requests to view index.html, can I just have that request forward to my page index.php instead ? (in apache2 under Ubuntu)
[03:10] <storrgie> cclausen: thanks for your help again tonight
[03:10] <storrgie> ill catch you tomorrow
[03:10] <storrgie> well see what happens in 24 hours
[03:10] <cclausen> neverblue: you can, but is that REALLY what you want?
[03:11] <neverblue> cclausen: well, I just want my localhost/ to go to ONLY my index.php page
[03:11] <neverblue> even if another page, like index.html, is requested
[03:12] <cclausen> try this: ErrorDocument 404 /index.php
[03:12] <cclausen> (I'd put that in a .htaccess in /var/www)
[03:12] <neverblue> under sites-enable/default ?
[03:12] <neverblue> ah
[03:12] <neverblue> i really need to understand .htaccess
[03:12] <cclausen> that way ANY page requested goes to index.php assuming it doesn't exist otherwise
[03:13] <cclausen> of course, if PHP breaks on your system, you could have real problems as 404 errors won't work
[03:13] <cclausen> neverblue: a .htaccess can contain most of the options in the apache configs
[03:13] <cclausen> it just goes in the directory with the web files
[03:13] <cclausen> so that end-users can add to the configs themselves
[03:14] <neverblue> well
[03:14] <neverblue> can I ask a question about that then?
[03:14] <neverblue> so I have apache2.conf, default under sites-enabled and now .htaccess
[03:14] <neverblue> they can each share the same settings ?
[03:14] <billybigrigger> cclausen, is there any better xmpp server than jabberd2?
[03:15] <cclausen> billybigrigger: I use openfire myself, but you'd have to mess with getting java installed.  last I tried it didn't actually run with openjdk and I had to get the actual Sun/Oracle Java
[03:15] <neverblue> for example, I can set DirectoryIndex index.php in any of the three ?
[03:15] <cclausen> neverblue: sort-of  you can't define everything in .htaccess files
[03:15] <cclausen> neverblue: yes, you can
[03:16] <neverblue> .htaccess just applies to the one site
[03:16] <cclausen> well, no
[03:16] <neverblue> whereas apache2.conf will apply to all sites ?
[03:16] <cclausen> .htaccess applies to a file path
[03:16] <cclausen> multiples sites can reference that same path though
[03:16] <neverblue> but since I just have a single site, the level at which i configure it, doesn't actually matter (in this case) ?
[03:16] <neverblue> cclausen: true
[03:17] <neverblue> let me try these changes
[03:17] <cclausen> neverblue you have a single site NOW.  could change in future
[03:17] <neverblue> do I need to restart the apache2 service, when I edit .htacces ?
[03:17] <neverblue> .htaccess*
[03:17] <cclausen> neverblue: you shouldn't
[03:17] <neverblue> cclausen: thank you
[03:17] <neverblue> didn't work
[03:17] <cclausen> get error 500 ?
[03:17] <neverblue> i had to create .htacccess
[03:18] <neverblue> i was able to go to localhost/index.html
[03:18] <cclausen> oh, that option didn't work?
[03:18] <neverblue> no error...
[03:18] <neverblue> then I tried localhost/bob.html
[03:18] <cclausen> you might need to Allow Override to get .htaccess to work
[03:18] <neverblue> and received an error
[03:18] <cclausen> 404 error?
[03:19] <neverblue> nope
[03:19] <neverblue> oh sorry
[03:19] <neverblue> yes, 404
[03:19] <cclausen> hmm... do you have an AllowOverride none in default config file?
[03:19] <neverblue> define: default config file ?
[03:19] <neverblue> apache2.conf ?
[03:20] <neverblue> 000-default under sites-enabled ?
[03:20] <neverblue> i see it in 000-default
[03:20] <neverblue> under the Directory /var/www/ directive
[03:21] <neverblue> AllowOverride None
[03:21] <cclausen> try AllowOverride FileInfo
[03:21] <cclausen> and invoke-rc.d apache2 reload
[03:21] <cclausen> more info here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html
[03:21] <neverblue> failed.
[03:21] <cclausen> failed?
[03:22] <cclausen> to work?  or to reload?
[03:22] <neverblue> didnt do it as su :(
[03:22] <cclausen> you changed the Directory /var/www/ part and not the Directory / part in the Directory tags ?
[03:22] <storrgie> cclausen: quick question before i go to bed
[03:22] <cclausen> ah, yeah, you need that
[03:22] <storrgie> how can i test fail2ban
[03:22] <neverblue> ah nice
[03:23] <neverblue> works!
[03:23] <cclausen> storrgie: install it
[03:23] <storrgie> i got it
[03:23] <storrgie> configured for ssh
[03:23] <storrgie> i want to see if it will email me
[03:23] <cclausen> storrgie: tell me your IP and I'll try and login a few times :-)
[03:23] <neverblue> one last question: what is invoke-rc.d apache2 reload ?
[03:23] <storrgie> excellent
[03:23] <storrgie> pmed
[03:23] <cclausen> neverblue: invoke-rc.d calls scripts in /etc/init.d
[03:23] <neverblue> ah
[03:24] <neverblue> so its just the same as /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:24] <neverblue> thanks for the patience cclausen
[03:24] <neverblue> appreciated
[03:25] <cclausen> neverblue: yes, exactly
[03:26] <gregcoit> anyone have a suggestion how to figure out what's pulling a package in when aptitude why doesn't tell me?
[03:26] <ScottK> That's my usual method.
[03:26] <cclausen> gregcoit: apt-cache rdepends package ?
[03:27] <dominicdinada> !samba
[03:29] <gregcoit> cclausen: I'll try that one - thanks
[03:30] <storrgie> cclausen: what is best default action for ufw?
[03:31] <cclausen> storrgie: forget ufw
[03:31] <cclausen> use iptables to view rules
[03:31] <cclausen> and there should be a fail2ban log file somewhere in /var/log ?
[03:31] <storrgie> yep i saw it
[03:31] <cclausen> should log when IPs get blocked
[03:31] <storrgie> but i was thinking i would use uwf to drop all by default
[03:31] <cclausen> blocks them for 1 hour by default I think
[03:31] <storrgie> cept for ones to my ssh
[03:32] <cclausen> yeah, you can use ufw
[03:32] <cclausen> !ufw
[03:32] <storrgie> cclausen: wrote this:
[03:32] <storrgie> http://blog.agdunn.net/?p=205
[03:33] <storrgie> but didnt know if it was good
[03:33] <cclausen> yeah, that looks good
[03:34] <gregcoit> strange, klogd and sysklogd are getting pulled in and replacing rsyslog (lucid's default) and I can't figure out what's pulling them in
[03:35] <storrgie> uh oes
[03:35] <cclausen> storrgie: you have a Norco 4220 ?  nice case?
[03:35] <storrgie> cclausen: how do i allow samba via ufw?!
[03:35] <storrgie> cclausen: yes sir!
[03:35] <storrgie> cclausen: bought it and enough drives to fill it as a graduation gift
[03:35] <cclausen> storrgie: hmm... samba probably requires much pain.  many ports and such.  I'd search around for someone's script for samba
[03:36] <storrgie> 8 Hitachi 2TiB and 9 WD 1TiB (1001FALS)
[03:36] <cclausen> storrgie: cool
[03:36] <cclausen> storrgie: any idea how much power that uses off-hand?
[03:36] <cclausen> have a kill-a-watt handy?
[03:36] <storrgie> ahh
[03:36] <storrgie> well
[03:36] <storrgie> i do
[03:36] <storrgie> I could check
[03:36] <storrgie> I have not checked since I installed the Hitachi drives
[03:36] <storrgie> lemme check my APC
[03:37] <storrgie> http://pastebin.com/TX3ZCTYr
[03:37] <storrgie> i can do a killawatt tomorrow if you email me
[03:37] <storrgie> otherwise i will forget
[03:37] <storrgie> and it will let me test unplugging my UPC
[03:37] <storrgie> :D
[03:38] <cclausen> looks like around 320 VA for load then?
[03:38] <storrgie> yeah
[03:38] <storrgie> the drives are not cranking right now
[03:38] <cclausen> I'd like to know the wattage measured on kill-a-watt
[03:38] <storrgie> i was doing a diff earlier
[03:38] <storrgie> over 1000MBs
[03:38] <cclausen> yeah, an idle and a max running a benmark on all drives would be good to know
[03:38] <storrgie> that makes the consumption increase a little
[03:38] <cclausen> yeah
[03:38] <storrgie> well email me, I'll send you the info
[03:38] <storrgie> root@agdunn.net
[03:48] <dominicdinada> storrgie: well ssh is working local
[03:57] <TuxIce> Say I had a php script, and I wanted to create a deb that made a vhost for apache2, and installed this php script. How would I go about doing that?
[04:01] <cclausen> TuxIce: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/336
[04:02] <TuxIce> THank you.
[04:04] <pwnguin> that link wasn't actually very helpful that i can see
[04:04] <pwnguin> beyond just making a .deb package
[04:04] <cclausen> isn't that what he asked?
[04:04] <pwnguin> you should also consider the draft webapp packaging guidelines
[04:05] <pwnguin> ive been considering this very same queestion myself to get a persoal weave server packaged in debian
[04:05] <pwnguin> http://webapps-common.alioth.debian.org/draft/html/
[04:06] <pwnguin> TuxIce: don't forget to set permissions and ownership for apache
[04:06] <TuxIce> pwnguin: ?
[04:06] <pwnguin> your php script
[04:06] <TuxIce> Oh, script ownershipt?
[04:06] <pwnguin> bingo
[04:06] <TuxIce> Like www-data and such? Yes yes, of course :)
[04:08] <pwnguin> theres also http://webapps-common.alioth.debian.org/draft-php/html/
[04:09] <pwnguin> they're both drafts, but perhaps they can jog your memory / thought process
[04:11] <TuxIce> Thanks very much :D
[04:12] <pwnguin> actually, it looks like the php one is crap
[04:14] <TuxIce> I'm very novice, so the more the marrier.
[04:15] <cclausen> TuxIce: I'd apt-get source on some other php package and look at how things are setup
[04:15] <TuxIce> Seems like its an ever ending novice. :/ So much to learn, been at it 3 years and am still scratching the surface.
[04:15] <cclausen> I can't think of a small one that would be good though
[04:15] <TuxIce> Yea, I'm looking at the drupal one right now.
[04:23] <TuxIce> What would be the best way to distribute deb packages? A roll your own repo?
[04:25] <cclausen> maybe
[04:26] <cclausen> you coul also just copy the deb file around
[04:26] <cclausen> depends how many machines you need to deploy to I guess
[04:26] <TuxIce> Hmm
[04:26] <TuxIce> Okay, last question for the night.
[04:27] <TuxIce> Anybody have a link to the launchpad doc on how to install launchpad server on ubuntu?
[04:27] <ScottK> It's non-trivial.
[04:28] <ScottK> If you want to roll your own repo, that's not the way to do it.
[04:28] <TuxIce> Different issue.
[04:28] <TuxIce> And, nevermind, found the announcement.
[04:28] <ScottK> OK.
[04:28] <TuxIce> Alright, so long, and thanks for all the fish
[04:31] <pschulz01> Greetings... I have just installed and upgraded 9.10 and I'm getting the 'motd' file displayed twice when I login... anyone seen this before? how do I fix it?
[04:34] <cclausen> pschulz01: is teh same info in /etc/motd twice?  or is it literally being displayed twice?
[04:35] <pschulz01> cclausen: same info in /etc/motd twice.
[04:36] <cclausen> pschulz01: edit the file, remove duplicate info
[04:36] <pschulz01> eg. running 'run-parts update-motd.d > motd' doesn't solve the problem.. the fileitself is OK.
[04:37] <pschulz01> cclausen: (Does that make sense?)
[04:37] <cclausen> pschulz01: yep
[04:37] <cclausen> pschulz01: just edit yourself
[04:37] <cclausen> its just text.  shouldn't harm anything
[04:37] <pschulz01> Hmm.. the file will still be shown twice though.
[04:37] <pschulz01> I mis-understood your question.
[04:38] <pschulz01> It's being displayed via pam.. but maybe by 'profile' as well somewhere.
[04:39] <cclausen> ah, ok
[04:55] <chillindave> Is there a chance that someone here has experience with reverse proxy?  I keep getting re-directed to different channels and no one will answer my question, so I'm hoping someone here can.  I want to run an application (php) on one server, but send the file uploads straight to a backend server.  I'm just not sure how to direct the file being uploaded to the backend server.
[05:08] <dominicdinada> not sure
[05:09] <twb> Reverse proxy of what?
[05:20] <cclausen> chillindave: you should be able to do that with mod_proxy under apache
[05:20] <cclausen> twb: I assume he means reverse proxy between web servers
[05:27] <dominicdinada> cclausen, ok I am having a slight problem with my network
[05:30] <chillindave> cclausen, What I'm having a hard time with is figuring out how to send the file to the backend server without the script also sending the user to the backend server.
[05:31] <cclausen> chillindave: ProxyPass and ProxyPAssReverse
[05:31] <prestonc> anyone here know how to easily setup ubuntu to run PHP under fastcgi?
[05:32] <twb> cclausen: wouldn't nginx or something be easier?
[05:34] <cclausen> twb: how so?  for simple configs its like 8 lines for apache
[05:35] <cclausen> prestonc: I'm using fcgid right now, not exactly the same as fsatcgi though
[05:36] <prestonc> hmmm
[05:38] <twb> cclausen: shrug.  I guess just don't like apache.
[05:38] <twb> +I
[05:41] <cclausen> this is old, but I think it is still applicable today: http://www.apachetutor.org/admin/reverseproxies
[05:48] <dominicdinada> can i auto say eth1, wlan1, wlan2 ? with out them conflicting ?
[05:48] <lifeless> yes
[05:51] <twb> You can even put them on the same line: "auto eth0 wlan0 wlan1"
[05:51] <twb> I believe they're still booted in sequence, not parallel, though :-(
[05:52] <dominicdinada> ok :P
[07:16] <jetole> Hey guys. I am setting up or, well changing my preseed on a server and one item I just changed is that hostname is assigned via dhcp however the installer is still asking me to set the hostname. It shows the dhcp assigned hostname by default but how can I make it auto use this hostname without asking me about it?
[07:17] <\sh> moins
[07:19] <twb> jetole: are you using "auto" to make it defer most options until DHCP is done?
[07:20] <twb> jetole: do you *know* (i.e. packet sniffing) that DHCP is providing a host name?
[07:23] <jetole> twb yes I am using auto and yes I know it's providing the hostname because it's not the default hostname. for example if you install without preseeding and when it asks you for a hostname, it says ubuntu there as the hostname and you just backspace and type in whatever hostname you like however for this host the hostname appearing is static1 which is whats set in dhcp however it's still asking me and having me hit enter to accept
[07:24] <jetole> twb. I just found this while reviewing the example preseed file for 10.04 d-i netcfg/get_hostname string unassigned-hostname
[07:24] <jetole> d-i netcfg/get_domain string unassigned-domain
[07:24] <jetole> which I didn't have as previously I was using the boot parameters for setting a hostname
[07:24] <jetole> so let me try that
[07:26] <jetole> nope. It's still asking me
[07:31] <jetole> twb: if you don't mind, can you look at this and see what I am missing? This is happening with both 9.10 (the one I used previously) and 10.04 (the one I haven't completed a preseed install on. http://pastebin.org/202563
[07:31] <twb> Sorry, I was asleep
[07:31] <twb> Looking...
[07:32] <twb> Oh, I won't know what's missing off the top of my head
[07:32] <twb> You want to apt-get install installation-guide-amd64 or so, and look at the appendix on preseeding
[07:42] <jetole> thanks
[07:54] <jetole> twb: do you happen to know where I can get a list of all preseed options?
[07:54] <jetole> d
[07:55] <twb> the source
[07:55] <twb> It changes from release to release, too
[07:56] <twb> Obviously most options are just debconf, so you only really need to consider d-i's preseed options as a special case
[10:31] <noaXess> hi all
[10:31] <noaXess> what about this cpu and ubuntu server? Intel Xeon W3540: QuadCore
[10:31] <noaXess> no problem, right?
[10:32] <teep_> Hello all. I have a problem logging in on an Ubuntu 8.04 server. Via SSH I get a timeout after entering a password; via console I don't even get the password prompt, it just sits after I enter my username. HTTP and FTP daemons seem to work fine.
[10:33] <teep_> anybody any idea what might be up?
[10:35] <noaXess> teep_: have you searched the logs.. or tailed them, while you are loggin in with ssh?
[10:40] <teep_> I couldn't... couldn't log in... anyway, I rebooted (the hard way) and I can login again... now trying to find what the hell was up
[10:47] <teep_> Searching the logs I find a lot of failed login attempts on SSH... looks like a brute force attack... could that have locked ssh AND the console up?
[11:13] <Jie_Sheng> Hi, i am on ubuntu server 10.04_64. i got apache2 and openssh running. i expose both 22 and 80 through port forward (router working ok as port8080 forward to win xp working fine) but when i attempt to access from external network, connection timed out occurred. currently checking the port with canyouseeme.org
[11:47] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me understand why bonding as mode=4 isn't working correctly in lucid, I have followed the intruction found in /usr/share/doc/enfslave/example/... combining two wired nics just as stated in the release notes yet only one card actually sends and receives data in contrast to both working at the same time?
[11:50] <Jeeves_> Pirate_Hunter: How many clients are using it?
[11:50] <Jeeves_> It does some hashing
[11:50] <Jeeves_> so if you're just using one client, you might always end up on the same nic
[11:51] <Pirate_Hunter> Jeeves_, huh... hashing, one clinet/server
[11:51] <Pirate_Hunter> client*
[11:51] <Jeeves_> Pirate_Hunter: it 'selects' a nic per client
[11:51] <Jeeves_> so if you're only using one client, you will only be using one nic
[11:52] <Jeeves_> it's not possible to do 2gbit between two boxes using lacp/bonding
[11:52] <Pirate_Hunter> nope both nicks are seen as slaves but when testing only one nic is actually receiving signal , the kernel log states that one of the nics keeps being put down which is annoying
[11:53] <Pirate_Hunter> I will never fully achieve such speeds but having two nics as lacp should improve the sending and receiving data over the lan and internet
[11:54] <Jeeves_> Pirate_Hunter: And the switch on the other side is configured the right way?
[11:55] <Pirate_Hunter> hmmm, I have no switch using a modem router which should allow lacp, most is set up through the kernel
[11:56] <Jeeves_> Pirate_Hunter: A modem which does lacp? :)
[11:56] <Jeeves_> That's unusual :)
[11:56] <Jeeves_> (or at least useless, for most routers)
[11:57] <Jie_Sheng> Jeeves_: i got a server box (10.04_64) which block (connection timed out) external access to it (ssh and apache2), you have any idea what causing it? any idea any log i could see if there a error? (router working ok as i got another 8080 port forward to win xp machine)
[11:57] <Pirate_Hunter> I dont actually have an lacp switch im just trying to achieve better speeds with two nics through the modem router
[11:58] <Pirate_Hunter> I would have expected it to work, it did with bond 0 on 8.04
[11:59] <Jeeves_> Pirate_Hunter: You will probably end up with a bond0, with one usable interface.
[11:59] <Jeeves_> Your router/modem will probably be your bottleneck anyways
[12:00] <Jeeves_> Jie_Sheng: Is apache running?
[12:00] <Jeeves_> Can you reach it from the inside?
[12:00] <Jeeves_> Does it have a default gateway?
[12:00] <Jie_Sheng> apache is running
[12:00] <Jie_Sheng> eth0 gateway?
[12:00] <Jie_Sheng> i didnt configure any
[12:00] <Jie_Sheng> my router modem does dhcp
[12:01] <Jeeves_> Can you ping anything on the internet?
[12:01] <Jeeves_> (from that specific server, that is )
[12:01] <Jie_Sheng> yes, it is able to ping
[12:02] <Jeeves_> do you have a firewall configured?
[12:02] <Pirate_Hunter> Jeeves_, hmm so the bond0 is actually working the hardware im currently working with is what's the problem... hmmm in that case might go back to mode 0 as that would seem as the best choice at the moment
[12:02] <Jie_Sheng> ufw is disabled
[12:04] <Jie_Sheng> when i ifconfig -a it show this
[12:04] <Jie_Sheng> inet addr:192.168.1.68  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[12:04] <Jie_Sheng> does it still need a gateway?
[12:05] <Jeeves_> Jie_Sheng: pastebin `sudo ip ro list`
[12:05] <Jie_Sheng> 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.1.68
[12:05] <Jie_Sheng> default via 192.168.1.254 dev eth0  metric 100
[12:06] <Jeeves_> !pastebin
[12:06] <Jeeves_> Jie_Sheng: That's what pastebin is :)
[12:06] <Jie_Sheng> ok sry
[12:07] <Jeeves_> Jie_Sheng: I would expect an issue with your router than
[12:07] <Jeeves_> if the box is ok, and apache is running
[12:07] <Jeeves_> than the portforward must be broken
[12:07] <Jie_Sheng> erm
[12:08] <Jie_Sheng> i check the portforward rule, is correct and there is a portforward to my winxp machine which is working fine
[12:08] <Jeeves_> ok
[12:08] <Jeeves_> than everything if fine, and working.
[12:08] <Jeeves_> Right?
[12:09] <Jie_Sheng> i can access from external network still =(
[12:09] <Jie_Sheng> but as of what it is now, the server should be alright correct?
[12:09] <Jeeves_> So it isn't ok.
[12:09] <Jeeves_> if apache is running, and reachable on the internal network on port 80, i'd expect the server to be ok, yes
[12:10] <Jie_Sheng> does running on vmware affect anything? the network if bridged
[12:12] <Jeeves_> You're running vmware on your XP box?
[12:13] <Jie_Sheng> erm
[12:13] <Jie_Sheng> win7 box
[12:13] <Jeeves_> Ah, no clue than
[12:14] <Jeeves_> No clue what Windows or Vmware might be doing in between
[12:14] <Jie_Sheng> erm
[12:14] <Jie_Sheng> ok thanks for the help! =D
[12:15] <Jeeves_> np
[12:26] <tdn> What do I need in order to have a blank machine boot up via the network, so that I can give it an iso or something to boot from? What packages should I look into?
[12:30] <pmatulis> tdn: do you want a diskless client?
[12:35] <tdn> pmatulis, no, but is only has a blank disk from start.
[12:35] <tdn> pmatulis, I want to install it from network.
[12:35] <pmatulis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation without a CD
[12:37] <tdn> pmatulis, thanks.
[12:55] <halvors> How can i install all ebox modules?
[12:55] <halvors> from apt?
[12:55] <halvors> i typed "sudo apt-get install ebox"
[12:55] <pmatulis> halvors: aptitude search ebox-
[12:56] <pmatulis> that will give the modules
[12:56] <pmatulis> example: p   ebox-dns                                                               - eBox - DNS Service
[12:56] <pmatulis> so then,
[12:56] <pmatulis> aptitude install ebox-dns
[12:57] <thesheff17> is anyone here using pxeboot with a preseed.cfg...I have everything working except when the server has more than one drive it prompts me to write changes to disk
[13:16] <halvors> thanks
[13:32] <halvors> I need a hosting panel like Vitrualmin with runs unser webmin, some ideas?
[13:37] <halvors> ???
[13:37] <halvors> ???
[13:37] <halvors> ???
[13:37] <halvors> ???
[13:37] <halvors> ???
[13:39] <zul> as said before webmin is not supported under ubuntu
[13:48] <jetole> Hey guys. In ubuntu 10.04 I am getting prompted to confirm I want to write to my partition when I do a preseed install on a server however this exact same preseed config on ubuntu 9.10 didn't require me to do that. Am I missing something in my config or is there a new option I need to know about? I can't find much googling it but here is my config: http://pastebin.com/bJdnwAAB
[14:02] <halvors> I ask you, do you know about some good hosting panels LIKE virtualmin?
[14:02] <halvors> i dont ask if it supported by ubuntu:P
[14:05] <jetole> halvors: you're in the wrong room
[14:05] <TuxIce|Idle> bbl, going to install Ubuntu
[14:06] <technovert> Does anyone know how to disable processor scaling (cool n quiet) without using the bios
[14:06] <technovert> i don't want to request an IP KvM to do it, but its causing issues with some gameservers
[14:06] <jetole> technovert: I kinda doubt that
[14:07] <jetole> Processor scaling should... on second thought I don't know enough about it to comment
[14:07] <jetole> so yeah. retract what I said about doubting it
[14:07] <technovert> i'll keep looking through the forums
[14:08]  * jetole runs a small cluster of ubuntu vm host servers each running between 6 and 18 hosts and I have never had an issue with processor scaling 
[14:08] <technovert> i'm fairly certain its causing me issues with source dedicated server (steam)
[14:09] <jetole> halvors: you haven't left yet?
[14:09] <jetole> technovert: how come?
[14:09]  * jetole wonders what scaling support the server edition even has. Seems like something that would probably be disabled on a server edition of the OS
[14:11] <soren> technovert: Sure.
[14:12] <soren> technovert: Just removing powernowd should do it.
[14:12] <ScottK> jetole: Encouraging people to leave who've asked on topic questions is not something we generally encourage.
[14:12] <technovert> which isn't installed
[14:12] <technovert> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
[14:12] <technovert> conservative ondemand userspace powersave performance
[14:12] <technovert> i'm thinking i can just change it to performance
[14:12] <technovert> and be good to go lol
[14:12] <technovert> for each core
[14:12] <soren> technovert: Sure, if you want to do that every time  you boot.
[14:12] <jetole> wtf @ program debconf-get-selections. It gets the selections made from when I installed ubuntu but afaik it's in a complete random / non sequenced order. Like I'm deleting all bits not related to disks / partitions in the output so I can look at the output for disks but it's intermixed with all parts of the rest of the install
[14:13] <jetole> ScottK: no I was refering to halvors. The guy who asked the specifically off topic question
[14:13] <technovert> Package powernowd is not installed, so not removed
[14:13] <jetole> 09:02 < halvors> i dont ask if it supported by ubuntu:P
[14:13] <technovert> its the kernel doing this
[14:13] <jetole> ScottK: they are the people you do encourage to leave
[14:14] <ScottK> jetole: It was still a server related question,  In any case encouraging him to leave, isn't really the way things are generally done.
[14:15] <CrummyGummy> Ohiya, I'm trying to install ubuntu server. I got a similar issue as this guy and #8 fixed the problem. Just mentioning it...
[14:15] <CrummyGummy> http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1412115
[14:15] <technovert> solved my issue :)
[14:15] <technovert> didn't end up needing an IPkVM
[14:16] <jetole> ScottK: well first off a server in general question especially when they say it's not for ubuntu in a ubuntu server room is deliberately off topic and no. People don't typically ask off topic to leave but instead just tell them they are in the wrong room and we don't discuss that here but I thought I would try a different approach since his question seemed almost aggresive in nature. As much so as coming here to ask about active directory on windows ...
[14:16] <technovert> hopefully this solves my ingame slowness
[14:16] <jetole> ... server 2k8
[14:16] <technovert> thanks everyone
[14:17]  * jetole goes for a smoke
[14:18] <soren> jetole: He asked for alternatives to virtualmin, clarifying that he wasn't asking whether virtualmin was supported on Ubuntu. That's both on topic and not aggressive as far as I can see.
[14:22] <Error404NotFound> is there something like freebsd jails in ubuntu? I want to create a jail of hardy inside lucid to test some php stuff. Or is my best bet vbox?
[14:25] <jetole> Error404NotFound: chroot
[14:25] <soren> jetole: And for the record: Comments like these are not acceptable: 13:09 < jetole> halvors: you haven't left yet?
[14:25] <jetole> soren: I'll refrain
[14:25] <soren> Please.
[14:26] <jetole> however he was asking for something that doesn't have to be supported by ubuntu which sounds to me like he's not using it
[14:27] <soren> jetole: a) I already explained, and b) that doesn't justify your behaviour.
[14:27] <jetole> soren: I've been working on a preseed problem for about 10 hours now. Maybe I'm just agrevated
[14:27] <jetole> soren: I didn't say it justified my behaviour
[14:28] <jetole> as per my behaviour I said I would refrain from doing it again
[14:28] <soren> ...and then you went on to attempt to justify it.
[14:28] <soren> Anyway, just don't do it again.
[14:29] <soren> halvors: I don't think we have anything in the Ubuntu archive that does what virtualmin does, I'm afraid.
[14:30] <jetole> no I didn't. I was referring to halvors . My behaviour and his comment are not directly related. If I am wrong about something it doesn't make the other person right. So while my comment may have been out of line it doesn't mean I now I have to assume everything he said was magically right
[14:31] <jetole> anyways. This has gone on too far. I said I would refrain so let's consider the issue settled please
[14:31] <soren> Quite.
[14:31] <ScottK> Fair enough
[14:31] <jetole> me goes back to trying to fix preseed
[14:32] <jetole> s/me/\/me/
[14:34]  * drusepth bursts from the shadows and licks soren 
[14:35]  * drusepth goes back to lurking
[14:35] <pmatulis> wow
[14:35] <jetole> I was just about to say "wow" too
[14:36]  * ScottK hopes they are on good terms
[14:36]  * soren blinks
[14:36] <jetole> Is anyone familiar with debconf-get-selections?
[14:37] <soren> Sure.
[14:37] <jetole> soren: if something is not a comment line and does not start with d-i, is that an option?
[14:38] <jetole> I am trying to figure out why my preseed.cfg is asking me to confirm the partition writes on 10.04 when the same preseed.cfg doesn't on 9.10
[14:39] <jetole> soren: for example is "partman-xfs     partman-xfs/no_mount_point      boolean" something I can include in my preseed.cfg?
[14:41] <soren> The first word on the line is the package that owns the question. Usually. The installer is a bit special this way.
[14:41] <jetole> so partman-xfs is the package and d-i is a package?
[14:43] <soren> jetole: Hmm... It's been a while. Let me think.
[14:43] <jetole> actually, well wait
[14:43] <jetole> I am looking at my current preseed now (as opposed to the debconf-get-selections) and I see the postfix lines start with postfix
[14:44] <jetole> so I think you're right
[14:44] <soren> I am. It says so in the docs. :)
[14:44] <jetole> which doc are you reading?
[14:44] <CrummyGummy> Wasn't there an ubuntu-server package at one point?
[14:44] <jetole> CrummyGummy: there still is
[14:44] <soren> jetole: debconf-set-selections
[14:44] <jetole> it's the base install for the server
[14:44] <soren> jetole: No, there's not.
[14:45] <jetole> no?
[14:45]  * jetole looks
[14:45] <soren> CrummyGummy: I don't believe there ever was. It's been a loooon time, if there has.
[14:45] <CrummyGummy> oh
[14:45] <CrummyGummy> Is there an equvalent package?
[14:45] <soren> CrummyGummy: You can use tasksel or "apt-get install ubuntu-server^" to install the server task, if that's what you want.
[14:45] <soren> CrummyGummy: Depends. Since it doesn't exist, it's hard to say what an equivalent package would look ike.
[14:46] <soren> like.
[14:46] <CrummyGummy> Thaks
[14:47] <jetole> soren: I guess you're right but I was under the mistaken impression there was... that it was like the antonym to ubuntu-desktop
[14:49] <CrummyGummy> That was my impression too. Just trying to pick up the pieces after this disaster of an installation.
[14:54] <Omahn> I've just done my first preseeded build of 10.04 and I've got an ext2 /boot partition, is that expected?
[14:54]  * jetole looks at his. one min
[14:55] <jetole> Omahn: yes it is
[14:55] <jetole> I have it too on mine
[14:55] <Omahn> Strange. I wonder if this is a concious decision or a regression..
[14:55] <jetole> Omahn: did you get prompted to confirm writes to partitions when you did the preseed
[14:55] <jetole> ?
[14:55] <jetole> I'm having an issue with that now on 10.04 that didn't exist with the same script on 9.10
[14:56] <Omahn> jetole: Yes, I did funnily enough. I need to preseed that out :-)
[14:56]  * jetole sighs
[14:56] <jetole> yeah I am looking for the answer now
[14:56] <jetole> I'll share if I find it
[14:56] <Omahn> Likewise :-)
[14:56] <jetole> Is that like the only thing that popped up?
[14:56] <Omahn> Yes, everything else went through fine.
[14:56] <jetole> ha
[14:56] <jetole> yeah we're both up the same creek
[14:58] <Omahn> I'm just about to run through the installer with debugging enabled, this should show us the question that needs preseeding: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/doc/internals/ch02.html#id319503
[14:58] <jetole> there's a debugging option?
[14:58]  * jetole reads the url
[14:59] <jetole> I've been tryin to parse the output from debconf-get-selections --installer which is a mess of a file it makes
[15:00] <jetole> Omahn: do you have any experience debugging? Any advice you want to give on how to set this up and manage it?
[15:01] <Omahn> jetole: I've done it before and IIRC it writes details regarding each debconf question to the syslog so it's relatively easy to track down the question at fault.
[15:02] <Omahn> jetole: Adding that 'debconf/priority=medium' to the boot kernel parameters should be enough.
[15:02] <jetole> Omahn: thanks. Also I just found adding BOOT_DEBUG=2 to the boot options should work too. I'm gonna do both knock on wood and try again right now and see what happens
[15:03] <Omahn> jetole: Cool, it's worth a try.
[15:03] <Omahn> jetole: I've just posted to the ubuntu server mailing list about /boot on ext2.
[15:05] <jetole> Omahn: I believe you can set it to whichever FS you like through custom partition layouts and what not but I have always sided with ext2 on /boot since I don't need journaling. Except for the occasional update that partition isn't too active after I boot on any system from server to workstation to laptop to home pc
[15:05] <jetole> so yeah. ext2 is fine on /boot for me
[15:06] <Omahn> jetole: It's probably fine here too but I'm just curious if this was a policy decision or a regression.
[15:08] <jetole> I don't know about regression. It uses ext2 by default on my 9.10 preseeds as well but I don't know about policy decision either and all my systems from before 9.10 didn't use preseed so I don't know but letting you know what I see from what I have
[15:08] <jetole> Omahn: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/amd64/boot-parms.html
[15:09] <halvors> OK, thanks ;)
[15:09] <jetole> I'm going for another smoke. bbiab
[15:13] <Xperianer> having problem with dmraid in lucid. with dmraid -ay everythings working finde, raid activated und functional. but the drive appears three times under nautilus. 2nd problem dmraid didn't start during system power up. any ideas how to solve?
[15:14] <Xperianer> ... using mirror raid on fakeraid adapter
[15:18] <jetole> now I need to find a way to send ctrl+alt+f2 over vnc
[15:19] <hggdh> smoser: ping
[15:20] <smoser> hi
[15:20] <hggdh> morning, sir. Can I use the rig for a bit?
[15:20] <smoser> indeed.
[15:21] <smoser> hggdh, i think i'm done with it for a while. we need to get some hard debugging done on what is going on with the 200OK response from the data center.
[15:21] <smoser> bug 566792
[15:21] <hggdh> smoser: thanks. I want to check on the [null] we were getting there
[15:22] <smoser> i think that my changes might have helped with that.
[15:22] <smoser> maybe
[15:22] <smoser> oh wait.
[15:25]  * hggdh is waiting
[15:25] <jetole> does anyone know how I can send ctrl+alt+f2 over VNC? I'm having some issues finding it.
[15:26] <cclausen> jetole: you want to get to a console tty from VNC ?
[15:26] <smoser> hggdh, do you know, when you see 'null' , do you see a 'Started' info message with 'null' ?
[15:26] <smoser> i dont think so
[15:27] <hggdh> this is one of the things I want to check, I will be running in debug, with your changes in
[15:28] <cclausen> jetole: I don't think you can do that as it would take you out of X and out of the current video mode, likely messing up VNC and your connection.  Just ssh in and run commands that way.  should be mostly the same
[15:30] <jetole> cclausen: I'm not in X
[15:30] <jetole> this is a virtual machine running on one of my servers in the data center and it's doing a new ubuntu server install which is console already running on tty1
[15:31] <smoser> hggdh, so one (somewhat legit) scenario where you can get 'null' is when the printstats fires after 'Starting' but before the output is collected
[15:31] <cclausen> jetole: so you use VNC to connect to the VM?  What virtualization technology?
[15:31] <SirDerigo> hi guys, good morning.
[15:31] <jetole> kvm though any virtualization supported via libvirt will work
[15:32] <jetole> just run virt-install with the --vnc --no-autoconsole options
[15:32] <SirDerigo> did any of you guys have created an active directory like domain using samba?
[15:33] <smoser> that explains 'not-tested' nulls
[15:33] <hggdh> smoser: yes, but they should be replaced as time goes by
[15:33] <smoser> yes
[15:33] <hggdh> and they do not seem to
[15:33] <jetole> cclausen: then when I want to connect to a host, I connect to the virt host, do a "ps -FC kvm | grep hostname" and then "netstat -tpeln | grep pid" to know which port that particular vm is running on and then I disconnect from the host and reconnect again with ssh -L 5900:localhost:5905 (if 5905 is the port) and it forwards 5900 on my machine to 5905 on the remote machine.
[15:34] <jetole> SirDerigo: I want to but am waiting on samba 4 (if it ever gets here) since active directory on samaba 3.x is only win2k and below compatible
[15:34] <jetole> samba for has been in alpha for at least 8 months maybe longer
[15:34] <jetole> *samba 4
[15:35] <jetole> probably longer
[15:35] <SirDerigo> jetole, now i understand why my windows 7 test box dont conect with the domain
[15:35] <smoser> hggdh, on failed start, the instance isn't deleted at all
[15:36] <smoser> errStarted doesn't clean it up.
[15:36] <smoser> i think it should move the state to 'failed'
[15:36] <jetole> SirDerigo: Probably not. As far as I know a windows 7 box can connect to windows 2k server running AD
[15:36] <smoser> or maybe a new state 'failed-to-start'
[15:36] <SirDerigo> there is another way of getting something like an active directory domain under my ubuntu server machine?
[15:36] <jetole> SirDerigo: nope
[15:36] <hggdh> probably failed-to-start, since we do not have an  instance-id at this point
[15:36] <jetole> at least not as far as I know
[15:36] <cclausen> jetole: actually, samba 3.x emulates an NT4 domain and NOT a Windows 2000 or newer active directory.
[15:37] <jetole> their are lots of client applications for AD
[15:37] <smoser> hggdh, yeah.
[15:37] <jetole> cclausen: win2k uses the NT4 AD tech
[15:37] <hggdh> will look at it
[15:37] <jetole> cclausen: just as win2k8 uses win2k3 tech
[15:38] <SirDerigo> i dont want to buy a windows 2008 server license!
[15:38] <jetole> win2k3 was basically a new AD release from the old revision
[15:38] <jetole> SirDerigo: windows 7 can connect to a windows 2k active directory server afaik
[15:39] <jetole> windows 2k AD doesn't have all the features of win 2k3 AD (i.e. you still need a PDC with no options for multi master) but it should do everything you need
[15:39] <cclausen> jetole: uhh, sort-of, but not really.  Windows 2003 AD introduced Kerberos support.  an NT4 domain is NTLM authentication only
[15:39] <cclausen> jetole: I think you are confusing NT4 and windows 2000
[15:39] <jetole> cclausen: that sounds right. I know use kerberos but I have never used a NT4 domain
[15:40] <cclausen> err, sorry, windows 2000 introduced Kerberos support
[15:40] <hggdh> smoser: do you need the logs saved?
[15:40] <jetole> cclausen: no I am discussing AD. The only diff between NT4 and win2k is a schema update same as the only diff between 2k3 and 2k8
[15:40] <smoser> hggdh, no.
[15:40] <jetole> cclausen: I don't think kerberos was before 2k3
[15:41] <jetole> in fact I am pretty sure 2k used NTLM
[15:41] <jetole> I vaguely remember discussing that with a coworker back when 2k was still new
[15:42] <Omahn> jetole: That boot parameter we needed was 'DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer' from this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installer/FAQ
[15:42] <Omahn> jetole: And the preseed question is critical partman-lvm/confirm_nooverwrite I think, or at least that's the last question logged in syslog.
[15:42] <jetole> Omahn: ok. Thanks. Let me look at it quickly
[15:42] <jetole> Omahn: I'm still not sure how to access syslog during the boot since I access my VM's via VNC
[15:43] <Omahn> jetole: Ah, that might be a problem :-)
[15:43] <jetole> yeah it seems to be
[15:43] <jetole> I'm going to try that option
[15:44] <Omahn> jetole: Bugger. Still prompts.
[15:45] <hggdh> smoser, which image is what there, right now?
[15:45] <jetole> Omahn: that should be true? I see it set to false in my debconf-get-selections so I am thinking it should be true
[15:45] <Omahn> jetole: I just tried:
[15:45] <Omahn> d-i partman-lvm/confirm_nooverwrite boolean true
[15:45] <Omahn> and it still prompts.
[15:45] <smoser> release-20100427.1 is the release, pristine
[15:45] <jetole> :(
[15:45] <smoser> if you're running tests, i'd prefer you to run with debug-20100427.1-1
[15:46] <smoser> its the same, just with longer timeouts and some debug to the console (which shows the '[200] OK' problem)
[15:48] <Omahn> jetole: I'm out of time for today unfortunately so I'll pick this up again tomorrow, if you manage to get it cracked I would *really* appreciate a quick PM with the details :-)
[15:49] <jeiworth> hi
[15:50] <cclausen> jetole: Windows 2000 definately used Kerberos.  I remember dealing with Kerberos IV -> Kerberos 5 password problems when we implemented AD here.  Windows 2000 also introduced group policy, which is a major feature that NT4 domains do not have.
[15:50] <hggdh> smoser: will run the debug version, then
[15:50] <smoser> its kind of required to get the overall improvement on waiting longer
[15:50] <smoser> as if the image doesn't wait longer, the test is going to fail
[15:51] <jeiworth> we are now having 3 ubuntu servers and 2 desktops running in the company so i was thinking arming anotheer 4th server as local repo. now i have been googleing a bit but not found a really good howto on how to implement this.. e.g. how can i mirror a public repo regularly, a friend suggested a simple rsync-script triggered by cron?
[15:52] <mcas> jeiworth: do you want a mirror or a cache?
[15:52] <jetole> cclausen: ok. I will take your word for it since I wasn't certain
[15:53] <cclausen> jetole: you don't have to believe me: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742431.aspx
[15:53] <jeiworth> mcas: good question, what is the difference? i suppose cache just holds the packages actually being asked for by the systems and mirror well mirrrors everything, so in this case i would like a cache to not waste too much space
[15:53] <jetole> cclausen: I am certain however though that win2k was essentially the same version of AD as NT4 where 2k8 is the same version as 2k3
[15:53] <cclausen> there was no AD in NT4
[15:53] <jetole> cclausen: I don't have to but I already told you I did
[15:53] <mcas> jeiworth: apt-get install apt-cacher-ng
[15:53] <mcas> :-D
[15:53] <cclausen> but whatever.  I guess it does not matter, other than using samba 3 is not a replacement for using AD
[15:54] <jeiworth> mcas: X-D
[15:54] <jeiworth> mcas: ok thx, will take a look, i feared it was just as simple as that ;)
[15:54] <mcas> jeiworth: echo ‘Acquire::http { Proxy “http://localhost:3142″; };’ | sudo tee /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01proxy
[15:54] <jetole> It also doesn't matter because I don't care that much. I'm still trying to get ubuntu preseed to work on ubuntu 10.04
[15:54] <mcas> on your clients you have to substitue localhost ;-)
[15:55] <mcas> you can use this with any repo ...
[15:56] <jeiworth> mcas: right, and if i understand you correctly the 01proxy-file i can just copy to all systems and it will automatically pull it on the next update?
[15:56] <mcas> yes
[15:56] <mcas> but you have to change localhost to your "server-ip"
[15:57] <jeiworth> mcas, righto, sounds very interesting :)
[15:58] <mcas> jeiworth: it is very nice... i use this on work, too. and you save lot of time by using your cache
 but you have to change localhost to your "server-ip" n<-- yes, obviously ;)
[16:02] <gswain> so i tried to install the latest LTS last night with software raid 10 with LVM for / and when I tried booting it said it couldnt find my volum Group (I suspect it coiuld not have possibly had time to synch my 1 tb raid 10) any ideas?
[16:04] <gswain> im just not sure what the issue could be
[16:04] <gswain> i use this config on lots of servers
[16:04] <gswain> but this is my first try with ubuntu
[16:05] <jeiworth> mcas: ok, skimming through the man page and some whotos this pretty much seems like exactly what i am looking for, thanks a bunch! :D
[16:06] <mcas> jeiworth: yw
[16:07] <icullen> hi, is anyone familiar with LTSP in 10.04?  I can't boot clients.  It says "Error: failed to connect to NBD server" then dumps the client to a busybox shell.  9.10 worked OK
[16:08] <gswain> is raid 10 and lvm just not recommended during server setup?
[16:08] <pmatulis> icullen: #ltsp might be better
[16:09] <gswain> hello?
[16:10] <pmatulis> gswain: hello
[16:10] <stephank> I'm using reprepro to build a local repository, but for some reason apt is not picking up the repository's Origin, Label, Suite, etc. (ie. "apt-cache policy" doesn't show a "release ..." line for my repo. I use it for pinning.) What am I missing in my reprepro setup?
[16:11] <gswain>  i tried to install the latest LTS last night with software raid 10 with LVM for / and when I tried booting it said it couldnt find my volum Group (I suspect it coiuld not have possibly had time to synch my 1 tb raid 10) any ideas what i could have done wrong?
[16:12] <cclausen> gswain: grub install could have gone wrong or RIAD itself.  did you read the release notes?
[16:15] <smoser> zul, around ?
[16:15] <gswain> no im not sure how, im kind of new to ubuntu\
[16:15] <zul> smoser: perhaps
[16:15] <zul> smoser: whats up?
[16:16] <smoser> i'd like a sponsor/review of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/lucid/revision/21?start_revid=21
[16:16] <smoser> oops
[16:16] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/571271
[16:17] <zul> smoser: sure lemme point you at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure
[16:18] <smoser> zul, have i missed something ?
[16:18] <zul> lemme go check
[16:18] <smoser> because i've walked through that.
[16:19] <smoser> up until step '4'
[16:19] <smoser> which is 'upload fixed package'
[16:19] <zul> smoser: didnt see that just saw the branch
[16:19] <zul> smoser: ill upload it now
[16:23] <zul> smoser: done
[16:23] <smoser> zul, thanks
[16:24] <zul> no probs
[16:24] <halvors> I got some problems with my email server:
[16:24] <halvors> 'http://paste.ubuntu.com/428366/
[16:24] <halvors> http://paste.ubuntu.com/428366/
[16:28] <halvors> No answers?
[16:36] <cclausen> halvors: what does your /etc/hosts file look like?
[16:37] <cclausen> err, nevermind, that is just a warning.  I suspect the real problem is the: Fatal: Plugin cmusieve not found from directory /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda
[16:37] <cclausen> perhaps you need to install that plugin?
[16:41] <icullen> thanks pmatulis, i'll try there
[17:26] <gswain> alright i just tried again and right after installer it fails to mount my raid10
[17:26] <gswain> it tries to boot it in degraded mode
[17:26] <gswain> but says the device is busy or it doesnt have /init
[17:26] <gswain> what gives, seems like it should just work
[17:30] <gswain> just bots?
[17:39] <cclausen> gswain: try installing without RAID, just to see if the problem is RAID related or not
[17:55] <MTecknology> How do I kill a message that is trying to be sent?
[17:56] <MTecknology> smtp*
[17:56] <MTecknology> My system is trying to send email to this guy@domain.com. The MX record for domain.com is mail.domain.com. The system is trying to reach mail.domain.com. But... mail.domain.com only has 22 and 80 open....   So my logs are filling up rather nicely.
[18:07] <npope> MTecknology: delete it from the queue
[18:08] <MTecknology> npope: that's what I'm asking how to do :)
[18:08] <npope> sendmail or postfix?
[18:08] <ScottK> MTecknology: What MTA?
[18:08] <MTecknology> sendmail
[18:09] <npope> MTecknology: /var/spool/mqueue
[18:09] <MTecknology> thanks :D
[18:09] <MTecknology> now.. is there any way to put a maximum retries on it?
[18:27] <stephank> I'm using reprepro to build a local repository, but for some reason apt on the client is not picking up the repository's Origin, Label, Suite, etc. (ie. "apt-cache policy" doesn't show a "release ..." line for my repo. I use it for pinning.) What am I missing in my reprepro setup?
[18:30] <maxb> stephank: Have you actually entered an Origin,Label,Suite in the reprepro configuration?
[18:31] <stephank> maxb: Yes, and they also appear in the Release files, which look more or less the same as ubuntu's official repositories'.
[18:32] <maxb> this is starting to sound like potentially local apt weirdness
[18:32] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, ping
[18:32] <maxb> But to be sure, perhaps pastebin the content of the Release file?
[18:33] <stephank> maxb: here we go: http://www.privatepaste.com/6989b5011d
[18:34] <stephank> I added the repository on two fairly fresh 10.04 installs, and both have the same issue
[18:36] <maxb> stephank: Try deleting /var/cache/apt/*.bin, and trying 'apt-cache policy again'
[18:36] <maxb> uh, misplaced quote, but you get what I mean
[18:37] <stephank> maxb: it still looks the same, there's no 'release' line :/
[18:38] <stephank> (and the pin doesn't work either)
[18:38] <maxb> well that's mysterious, because when I overwrote one of my local /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Release files with your paste, and deleted those cache files, it showed up here
[18:39] <stephank> hmm...
[18:39] <stephank> maxb: the Release file for the repository in question exists, but under /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/
[18:40] <maxb> hmmm
[18:40] <maxb> What's the content of the file in partial?
[18:41] <maxb> Try moving the file in partial away, deleting any files relating to that repository in /var/lib/apt/lists/, and running apt-get update
[18:42] <stephank> trying that now. fwiw, the content was the same as the paste (checked with diff)
[18:43] <stephank> maxb: same result, and the file again ends up in partial/
[18:43] <maxb> odd
[18:43] <maxb> Something must be broken with that download for you, locally
[18:43] <Error404NotFound> is there something like freebsd jails in ubuntu? I want to create a jail of hardy inside lucid to test some php stuff. Or is my best bet using something like virtualbox?
[18:46] <stephank> maxb: well, it's pulled from the same machine, but not localhost. I see a get line in the apt-get output that matches the size on the server. And there are no errors, but some ignores because there is no Release.gpg.
[18:48] <dominicdinada> !samba
[18:48] <mcas> if i want to build a software raid on a ubuntu server for 200 users... which software do i want to use?
[18:50] <ScottK> Software RAID is built in.
[18:50] <dominicdinada> in server 10.4 samba doesn't share correctly is that because webmin is outdated ? trys to call samba when the command is now smbd?
[18:52] <mcas> ScottK: yes but dmraid lvm?
[18:52] <mcas> any suggestions?
[18:53] <ScottK> !webmin | dominicdinada
[18:53] <dominicdinada> !ebox
[18:53] <ScottK> mcas: It's been long enough since I set up RAID I don't know.
[18:54] <stephank> maxb: Moving the Release file from 'partial' to '../', deleting the '*.bin' cache, and then running 'apt-cache policy' did the trick. So at least that's one more hint in the right direction. Thanks for helping. :)
[18:54] <mcas> hmm... which one do you use and do you had any problems? ;-)
[18:59] <dominicdinada> ok getting ebox
[19:05] <dominicdinada> !webmin
[19:05] <failover> Hey about kvm/qemu, at Lucid what is the diference between /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 and /usr/bin/qemu ?
[19:07] <halvors> my etc/hosts?
[19:07] <RoyK> failover: possibly a symlink?
[19:08] <failover> not !
[19:08] <failover> kvm is a symlink for qemu-system-x86_64
[19:08] <failover> but qemu is another file !
[19:08] <RoyK> ok!
[19:08] <failover> man and help show the same for both, but the file size is different !
[19:09] <RoyK> perhaps qemu runs the other?
[19:09] <halvors> cclausen: My etc hosts fil look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/428453/
[19:14] <halvors> ???
[19:14] <dominicdinada> wow ebox  is trash would rather keep webmin and just configure manually
[19:15] <halvors> I need a hosting panel simply create new domains.
[19:15] <halvors> some ideas?
[19:16] <dominicdinada> !domain
[19:17] <halvors> !domain?
[19:18] <halvors> whay not?
[19:19] <cclausen> The ebox-webserver package manages Apache2
[19:20] <cclausen> halvors: take the "localhost" part out of ::1 entry in there.  You ahve TWO localhost entires and I think that is confusing various things
[19:22] <cclausen> MTecknology: you really shouldn't be trying to send mail to a domain that doesn't work.  I'm guessing there are already retries built into SMTP, but you just didn't want to wait several days for it to stop retrying
[19:26] <MTecknology> cclausen: somebody screwed up - it was a client that screwed up - I forsee that happeneing more in the future.
[19:26] <halvors> what?
[19:26] <MTecknology> cclausen: now I'm having that on another system - one system trying to send mail to another. A is trying to send to B when it should be trying to C
[19:27] <halvors> si i shuld only have the first line an drop the 10.0.0.2 ss1?
[19:28] <cclausen> MTecknology: it sounds to me like the MX record is wrong.  fix the MX record and then the message will be delivered
[19:29] <cclausen> halvors: you might need that, I am not sure about your setup
[19:29] <MTecknology> cclausen: its internal systems - no MX; should just send directly to tat system..
[19:31] <dominicdinada> !ebox
[19:32] <cclausen> MTecknology: then set the MX to go elsewhere and allow the email to deliver.  or, just wait for it to time out and get "frozen"
[19:32] <j0nr> can i just apt-get install pulse-audio on my server to make it play sound
[19:32] <j0nr> ?
[19:33] <cclausen> j0nr: I don't think just installing that will actually cause your computer to play sound
[19:33] <j0nr> i am trying to get my server (old laptop) to play music with mpd
[19:33] <cclausen> just add some capabilities to enable it
[19:33] <j0nr> cclausen: what do you mean capabilities?
[19:33] <cclausen> j0nr: locally?  Or across the network?  Or what?
[19:34] <j0nr> cclausen: the laptop is plugged into the router. it contains my music. I can go to a php web interface player to see my music and play it. Except when its playing no sound is coming out the server
[19:34] <MTecknology> cclausen: there is no way to set internal MX right now and I don't want to set it up.. I don't care about purging what's there - I care about why it's not sending to the right system - there's no reason it should try to send to that system...
[19:35] <cclausen> j0nr: does just running mplayer locally on that server play sound?
[19:35] <j0nr> cclausen: can mplayer be used on the command line?
[19:35] <cclausen> MTecknology: if someone addresses an email to a system, it will look for MX and if its not there, attempt to connect directly to port 25 for delivery
[19:36] <cclausen> j0nr: it can on my system, at least for audio.  obviously playing video would be a problem
[19:36] <MTecknology> cclausen: exactly.. but it's not broken there - it's broken before that
[19:36] <cclausen> MTecknology: I'm not sure what you mean by "not sending to the right system" then
[19:37] <MTecknology> cclausen: it's doing exactly what I said - but it's getting screwed up prior to anything DNS - I'm figuring out how to script vm creations - sounds like more fun
[19:38] <j0nr> cclausen: i am playing with mpg321 and nothing is coming out
[19:38] <j0nr> i dont think server ed. comes with audio
[19:39] <cclausen> j0nr: that is possible, but I think unlokely.  you can use lspci to look for sounds cards and then use lsmod to see if the module is loaded
[19:40] <cclausen> its possible your hardware just isn't supported
[19:40] <j0nr> im sure it played audio when it was installed with a desktop version
[19:41] <cclausen> MTecknology: okay, well, figure out what and then fix it.  is it a wrong DNS server?  Is it a bad /etc/hosts entry?
[19:41] <cclausen> j0nr: same version?
[19:41] <j0nr> no
[19:41] <j0nr> older version
[19:41] <j0nr> it had 9.04 on it and now it has 10.04 server
[19:41] <cclausen> j0nr: well, that isn't really a fair comparison then.  can you try booting to a Live CD and teying there?
[19:41] <j0nr> there is no pulseaudio or alsa installed
[19:41] <cclausen> pulse audio isn't strictly required to play audio
[19:42] <halvors> Si it should be like this
[19:43] <cclausen> j0nr: who are you trying to play audio as?  does the user not have access to a specific sound device?
[19:43] <halvors> http://paste.ubuntu.com/428471/
[19:43] <MTecknology> cclausen: even before that..... :P - I need to figure out why it's flipping the system name
[19:43] <cclausen> halvors: no, you didn't remove the duplicate localhost entries
[19:43] <cclausen> you can'y have "localhost" on 127.0.0.1 and on ::1
[19:44] <cclausen> MTecknology: the system mailname?  Or host name?
[19:44] <soren> Err.. Why not?
[19:44] <j0nr> cclausen: not sure tbh
[19:44] <cclausen> soren: b/c apparently postfix gives crazy warnings about localhost
[19:44] <j0nr> i guess www-data?
[19:44] <j0nr> as i am using a php web interface
[19:44] <cclausen> j0nr: can you try mplayer or whatever player as root on teh system and see if audio plays?
[19:45] <MTecknology> cclausen: dest addy - it's getting muffed up that far back - I send to server@domain.com; when it hits queue it flips to difserver@domain.com
[19:45] <MTecknology> HOSTNAME=""; vmbuilder kvm ubuntu --mem=768 --rootsize=10240 --swapsize=256 --cpus=2 --hostname="$HOSTNAME" --domain="kalliki.com" --destdir=/virt/images/$HOSTNAME --user="michael" --name="Michael Lustfield" --pass="CHANGEme" --mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ --components main,universe --addpkg=vim --addpkg=openssh-server --addpkg=screen --addpkg=apparmor-utils --addpkg=apparmor-profiles --addpkg=ufw --addpkg=cur
[19:45] <MTecknology> How does that look? :)
[19:45] <MTecknology> I didn't reaslize how long that was... maybe shoulda pastebinned
[19:45] <cclausen> MTecknology: as the hostname?  that looks wrong :-)
[19:45] <j0nr> cclausen: no sound as root
[19:45] <cclausen> j0nr: hmm...
[19:46] <MTecknology> here we go - http://paste.ubuntu.com/428473/
[19:46] <cclausen> j0nr: check lspci for sound hardware info and then look for loaded sound modules
[19:47] <soren> MTecknology: What's the question?
[19:47] <j0nr> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[19:47] <cclausen> ac97 should have a module
[19:47] <cclausen> soren: he's getting this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/428366/
[19:47] <j0nr> cclausen: there are several entries for lsmod | grep snd
[19:47] <MTecknology> soren: If you think that's nice and pretty :)
[19:47] <cclausen> the warning: ::1: address not listed for hostname localhost is likely caused by bad reverse lookup due to two entiries in /etc/hosts
[19:48] <soren> What's that got to do with that whole vmbuilder thing?
[19:48] <cclausen> j0nr: could it be not a sound card problem?  maybe volume is truned down?  ir speakers not plugged in?
[19:48] <halvors> What is ::1
[19:48] <cclausen> maybe I have confused people I was helping..
[19:48] <MTecknology> ya
[19:48] <j0nr> cclausen: http://pastebin.com/QDVWAZv6
[19:49] <cclausen> in which case, sorry about that
[19:49] <MTecknology> soren: ignore me - help j0nr  :)
[19:49] <j0nr> cclausen: how would you control the volume on a server?
[19:49] <cclausen> j0nr: so that looks like you should have functioning sound.
[19:49] <cclausen> j0nr: can you run aumix or some other volume control ?
[19:49] <MTecknology> alsamixer
[19:49] <soren> What do you need sound for?
[19:50] <soren> j0nr: ^
[19:50] <j0nr> im trying to use an old laptop as a music server, using mpd, controlled via a web interface. so the laptop is plugged into speakers and i can control it from any networked device
[19:50] <j0nr> soren:
[19:51] <halvors> cclausen: what do ::1? and what is it?
[19:51] <j0nr> i have no aumix or alsamixer installed
[19:51] <cclausen> halvors: ::1 is the IPv6 equiv of 127.0.0.1
[19:51] <cclausen> e.g. the local loopback interface on your system
[19:51] <cclausen> j0nr: apt-get install aumix
[19:52] <cclausen> I don't think that alsamixer works in a console and that is needs gnome.  Or at least that ginme version is the only pacakge that I can find
[19:53] <soren> j0nr: Ok. alsamixer it is then.
[19:53] <j0nr> cclausen: \o/ top man!
[19:53] <soren> Don't use aumix.
[19:53] <j0nr> aumix did it!
[19:53] <soren> Yes, but..
[19:53] <soren> Bah, whatever.
[19:53] <j0nr> but...?
[19:54] <soren> aumix is for OSS. alsamixer is for ALSA.
[19:54] <halvors> so i should have 3 records in the file?
[19:54] <halvors> ::1
[19:54] <halvors> too
[19:54] <soren> and since you're actually using ALSA, it's probably better to use alsamixer (avoiding the translation layer)
[19:55] <soren> cclausen: Having both 127.0.0.1 and ::1 called localhost in /etc/hosts is fine.
[19:55] <j0nr> thank you all for you help!
[19:56] <soren> cclausen: Not only fine. It's correct.
[19:56] <dominicdinada> that is what is in my hosts file as well
[19:57] <halvors> Like that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/428480/
[19:57] <cclausen> soren: yes, it is.  that isn't what I was saying
[19:57] <j0nr> Severed Fifth now blasting out the stereo controlled by my php web interface :D
[19:58] <cclausen> soren: having "localhost" on both ::1 and 127.0.0.1 lines can cause problems
[19:58] <cclausen> you'll note that ::1 is named ip6-localhost and NOT "localhost" by default
[19:58] <soren> cclausen: That's /exactly/ what I'm saying is the correct thing to have.
[19:58] <soren> cclausen: both.
[19:59] <cclausen> halvors: make the ::1 line just have the two ipv6-local* entires.  does the warning go away?
[20:00] <cclausen> soren: other suggestions on what could be causing: "warning: ::1: address not listed for hostname localhost" then ?
[20:00] <cclausen> oh, hmm... I wonder if the system hostname is set to localhost.  that could probably cause weirdness...
[20:00] <zul> mdeslaur: you are taking care of the chkrtootkit bug?
[20:00] <soren> cclausen: I haven't seen the hosts file in question.
[20:00] <cclausen> soren: it was pasted...
[20:00] <soren> cclausen: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/netcfg/main/annotate/head%3A/netcfg.h#L39 for ye of little faith.
[20:01] <cclausen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/428471/
[20:01] <soren> Ok.
[20:01] <cclausen> soren: ok, well, that is broken
[20:01] <mdeslaur> zul: yeah, I'll look at it
[20:01] <zul> mdeslaur: k thanks
[20:01] <soren> cclausen: Why?
[20:02] <cclausen> you'll get non-matching reverse and forward lookups for localhost, depending upon how it is queried
[20:02] <cclausen> in hardy, I do not have "localhost" on the ::1 line
[20:02] <soren> How so?
[20:02] <dominicdinada> I am having trouble wget'n eboxes Release.gpg :( can anybody help?
[20:02] <soren> What will not match?
[20:02] <cclausen> forward and reverse lookups
[20:02] <soren> cclausen: Which ones?
[20:02] <dominicdinada> cclausen: hardy is not ipv6 compliant is it
[20:03] <cclausen> dominicdinada: I have been told to disable IPv6 for security reasons.  I don't have a way to test.
[20:03] <cclausen> soren: ones on localhost, ::1, 127.0.0.1
[20:04] <dominicdinada> cclausen: i see from my understand by default ipv6 is more secure by nature
[20:04] <cclausen> dominicdinada: really?  how so?
[20:04] <dominicdinada> understanding*
[20:04] <soren> cclausen: Yes, those are the names and addresses of which we speak. Now, how, why, and which lookups will not match?
[20:05] <cclausen> soren: whatever postfix is doing to cause the warnings here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/428366/
[20:05] <dominicdinada> because of the way they address things
[20:06] <soren> cclausen: If I call getaddrinfo("localhost", NULL, blahblah), I'll get two results, one AF_INET and one AF_INET6.
[20:06] <halvors> here is error:
[20:06] <halvors> Reporting-MTA: dns; ss1.skymiastudios.com X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 7695C480B7F X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; halvors@skymiastudios.com Arrival-Date: Wed,  5 May 2010 21:06:00 +0200 (CEST)  Final-Recipient: rfc822; halvors-skymia.net@ss1 Original-Recipient: rfc822;halvors@skymia.net Action: failed Status: 5.4.4 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Host or domain name not found. Name service error     for name=ss1 type=AAAA: Host not found
[20:06] <cclausen> soren: yes, makes sense to me
[20:07] <dominicdinada> all ::1 is is an loopback but say prefixed ff00 -ff02 are only allowed locally eg 192.168.* class
[20:07] <cclausen> halvors: that error appaers to be a failed lookup for "ss1"
[20:07] <soren> cclausen: It's trying to look up and ipv6 address for ss1.
[20:07] <halvors> so
[20:07] <soren> What's ss1?
[20:07] <halvors> ẅhat should i do?
[20:07] <garymc> anyone know anything about PPTP vpn servers?
[20:07]  * soren should
[20:07] <cclausen> dominicdinada: how is that a securiry feature?
[20:07] <garymc> im connecting to it fine via my iphone. But once I disconnect I canr reconnect ?
[20:07] <halvors> ss1 is the name of my server, it was that i entered in the installation of ubuntu
[20:07] <dominicdinada> then they have a multi cast address.... but only certain classes will be able to address the internet vs's local networks
[20:08] <cclausen> garymc: I run a PPTP VPN on Windows.  Really easy to setup :-)
[20:08] <garymc> yes i got it working, but I have one problem now
[20:08] <halvors> PPTP server, i have tryd it works fine easy to setup =)
[20:08] <garymc> I connect to it VIA my iphone. Works great.
[20:08] <halvors> also on ubuntu
[20:08] <soren> halvors: Perhaps your postfix only does ipv6 for some reason?
[20:09] <halvors> can post my config file
[20:09] <garymc> Then if I disconnect VPN and use normal wireless then need to reconnect to my VPN it wont let me
[20:09] <soren> garymc: You can only connect once and then not again until you've restarted the vpn server?
[20:09] <dominicdinada> cclausen: because of how they class the address's and unless i see an rfc document otherwise i tend to believe network++ server 2008 client for wins.... and cisco all saying the same thing
[20:09] <garymc> why is that?
[20:09] <garymc> soren is there a way around that?
[20:09] <halvors> here are postfix main.cf
[20:09] <halvors> http://paste.ubuntu.com/428484/
[20:09] <soren> garymc: I'm not saying, I'm asking :)
[20:09] <garymc> As im going away and if my phone goes off or need recharging
[20:09] <soren> garymc: Is that what you are experiencing?
[20:10] <garymc> yes
[20:10] <garymc> exactly
[20:10] <halvors> ?
[20:10] <halvors> some answers?
[20:10] <soren> halvors: You need to put your hostname in /etc/hosts.l
[20:10] <soren> /etc/hosts
[20:11] <soren> Like:
[20:11] <garymc> soren : is there a time limit that has to pass b4 it will let me reconnect or something?
[20:11] <soren> garymc: Don't know. What sort of errors do you see in the logs?
[20:11] <halvors> i have done it
[20:11] <soren> halvors: Add this to your /etc/hosts:
[20:11] <halvors> what?
[20:11] <halvors> ss1
[20:11] <halvors> ?
[20:11] <j0nr> darn it. i have the server working playing music out my sound system, but the tv wont play sound. I used a spliter on the input to the stereo so that there are two sets of phono leads going into the stereo. the laptop goes in and plays but the tv doesnt. unless i unplug the cable from the headphones jack on the server
[20:11] <cclausen> needs an AAAA record, right?
[20:11] <soren> 127.0.1.1 ss1.skymiastudios.com
[20:11] <soren> sorry, I mean:
[20:12] <soren> 127.0.1.1 ss1.skymiastudios.com ss1
[20:12] <halvors> whay 127.0.1.1
[20:12] <cclausen> j0nr: so its not a software problem?
[20:12] <halvors> ?
[20:12] <garymc> soren just looking now
[20:12] <j0nr> cclausen: no... i said up there ^ i got it working :)
[20:12] <soren> halvors: If you have a static IP, you can use that instead ifyou like.
[20:12] <halvors> can you post exemple at paste.ubuntu.com for me
[20:12] <halvors> ok
[20:12] <j0nr> but i thought i could use RCA splitters to feed both tv and laptop into the sound system and either or both would just play
[20:12] <halvors> so it will be first lin like it
[20:13] <j0nr> but the tv wont play unless i unplug the server
[20:13] <soren> halvors: Doesn't matter. Just somewhere on a line by itself.
[20:13] <halvors> 127.0.0.1 ss1.skymiastudios.com
[20:13] <soren> No.
[20:13] <halvors> how+
[20:13] <garymc> soren : heres my log from last attempt http://pastebin.com/AA5bbDdb can you shed some light?
[20:13] <halvors> ?
[20:13] <soren> 127.0.1.1 or your static IP (if you have one)
[20:13] <soren> halvors: I just told you.
[20:14] <soren> 19:12 < soren> 127.0.1.1 ss1.skymiastudios.com ss1
[20:14] <halvors> so 127.0.0.1 should be my external ip?
[20:14] <soren> No! Don't touch that line.
[20:14] <halvors> 84.49.231.146 ss1.skymiastudios.com ss1
[20:14] <soren> Just add the one line I told you. No more or less.
[20:14] <soren> Err.. Is that the IP of the server?
[20:15] <halvors> yes the external ip
[20:15] <halvors> static
[20:15] <soren> Does the server have that address configured?
[20:15] <cclausen> j0nr: yeah, that makes sense too me.  apparently does not work though, huh?
[20:15] <soren> ..or is that being NAT'ed or port forwarded somehow?
[20:15] <halvors> NAT ;)
[20:16] <halvors> port foward
[20:16] <halvors> r
[20:16] <soren> Then no.
[20:16] <soren> It needs to be an IP the server HAS.
[20:16] <soren> Not one by which you can reach it.
[20:16] <j0nr> cclausen: no, for some odd reason
[20:16] <halvors> so i tshould be like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/428486/
[20:16] <soren> halvors: What's 10.0.02?
[20:16] <soren> Sorry, 10.0.0.2, I mean.
[20:16] <halvors> my locaL NETWORK IP
[20:17] <halvors> sry caps lock
[20:17] <soren> Is it static?
[20:17] <halvors> yes
[20:17] <soren> Fine. Use that.
[20:17] <halvors> ok
[20:17] <halvors> so it should be
[20:17] <halvors> 10.0.0.2 ss1.skymiastudios.com
[20:17] <soren> ...
[20:17] <soren> no.
[20:17] <halvors> i hav ethis line 10.0.0.2 ss1
[20:17] <soren> 10.0.0.2 ss1.skymiastudios.com ss1
[20:18] <halvors> like this right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/428489/
[20:18] <garymc> soren did my log file tell you anything?
[20:18] <halvors> ???
[20:19] <soren> halvors: That should do the trick.
[20:19] <halvors> ok i will try ;)
[20:19] <soren> garymc: Is that from when it fails?
[20:20] <garymc> yes after ive disconnected then try to reconnect
[20:20] <garymc> its the reconnect part only
[20:20] <halvors> ansd this:  apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 10.0.0.2 for ServerName
[20:20] <soren> Do you still have that after this change?
[20:20] <soren> garymc: Don't know. Looks like the client doesn't like what it's seeing.
[20:21] <halvors> No, it have been there since the installation of my server
[20:21] <garymc> damn where could I get some more debug help for this?
[20:21] <halvors> server works i only wounder if i should correct it?
[20:21] <garymc> if it works leave it be
[20:22] <soren> halvors: It's just a warning. It doesn't really matter, but do you still have that error after we made these changes?
[20:22] <dominicdinada> I am having trouble wget'n eboxes Release.gpg :( can anybody help?
[20:22] <dominicdinada> err adding the key
[20:22] <soren> dominicdinada: Try #ebox
[20:23] <dominicdinada> soren:  i got the key but having trouble adding it
[20:23] <dominicdinada> to the repos
[20:24] <halvors> soren: i got error now to :(
[20:25] <halvors> no this is now about our changes =)
[20:25] <garymc> just tried turning Iphone off and back on but still wont connect to the PPTP VPN server
[20:25] <garymc> I need to restart the PPTP server manually everytime
[20:25] <garymc> this is no good to me
[20:25] <cclausen> dominicdinada: I was getting that too just running apt-get update.  update server is over loaded I suspect
[20:26] <dominicdinada> I got the key
[20:26] <dominicdinada> sudo apt-add Release.gpg ? correct ?
[20:26] <halvors> soren??
[20:26] <halvors> are you there?
[20:26] <halvors> do you know the error
[20:27] <drusepth> Installing a Eucalyptus cloud controller like a boss
[20:27] <halvors> i get this error
[20:27] <halvors> May  5 21:06:10 ss1 postfix/postfix-script[8928]: warning: /var/spool/postfix/etc/hosts and /etc/hosts differ
[20:29] <halvors> ???
[20:33] <halvors> ???
[20:33] <halvors> some answers
[20:36] <dominicdinada> cclausen: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 342D17AC
[20:50] <j0nr> finally sorted with a lot of mixing and swapping of various av cables
[20:50] <dominicdinada_> !ebox
[20:52] <dominicdinada_> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5F99A088342D17AC
[20:59] <garymc> I managed to get it working and I can connect to my PPTP VPN server via my iphone. But once I close the connection Iam unable to reconnect to my PPTP VPN server unless I ssh into the server and restart PPTP
[20:59] <garymc> anyone knwo ANYTHING?
[21:24] <incorrect> hi, i was wondering if anyone here has any experience with the vps service from five bean?
[21:29] <dominicdinada> need a hand with some ebox problems
[21:38] <joe234> anybody can help
[21:38] <joe234> my server 10.04 wont boot
[21:39] <joe234> it says
[21:40] <joe234> init: ureadhead-other main process (572) terminated with status 4
[21:40] <joe234> init: networking main process (584) terinated with status 4
[21:40] <dominicdinada_> Are there any mods to get Webmin to work correctly with lucid ?
[21:40] <dominicdinada_> this Ebox is Crap
[21:45] <dominicdinada> Webmin = 100000x < Ebox
[21:46] <incorrect> i have a really good replacement for both webmin and ebox
[21:46] <incorrect> ssh
[21:46] <jeiworth> hehe
[21:46] <dominicdinada> yea ssh but in a server enviroment with many servers webmin < ssh
[21:46] <RyanP> incorrect: I really don't want to do LDAP user creation via ssh.
[21:46] <incorrect> dominicdinada, i have 200 servers,
[21:47] <dominicdinada> really ?
[21:47] <incorrect> yes
[21:47] <incorrect> i just wrote a bunch of scripts to manage them
[21:47] <dominicdinada> think of what the boses knew about you wasting so much time when webmin can do all the managing via cp in minuates vs u all day
[21:47] <incorrect> RyanP, i use the ldapscripts package
[21:48] <dominicdinada> well yea that,...
[21:48] <joe234> anybody help me?
[21:48] <incorrect> all day?
[21:48] <incorrect> poor dominicdinada can't script
[21:48] <dominicdinada> without those script
[21:48] <incorrect> took me 30 seconds to write scripts to manage them all
[21:49] <dominicdinada> ah nice for you, want a cookie and a trophey?
[21:49] <incorrect> maybe he has gone to learn to script
[21:50] <dominicdinada> but really back on topic my question was what is the work around for webmin and the incompatibility ?? is it just that it calls samba and not smdb?
[22:09] <dominicdinada> !SWAT
[22:17] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: pong
[22:17] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, how's belgium?
[22:18] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: completely knackered right now; about to crash
[22:18] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: do you have a quick question, or something deep?
[22:18] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, not really, I jsut wanted to let you know that the UDS session has been approved if you didn't know that... and I made some more mockups here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TestdriveFrontend
[22:19] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: awesome!
[22:19] <kirkland> will check them out
[22:19] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, ok, other than that, the code *should* be mergeable, but haven tested enough due to I have been doing paperwork to obtain the work permit of the GSoC due to the issues explained in the e-mails
[22:20] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: awesome;  ....  do this ....
[22:20] <kirkland> push to a PPA
[22:20] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: and publish a call for testing on your blog
[22:21] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: ask people to poke and prod and test it a bit
[22:21] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, yeah I was actually planing to do so :)
[22:21] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: rock on
[22:21] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, aight then. Will do so *hopefully* before going to belgium.
[22:22] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: perfect, thanks
[22:22] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: submit a merge proposal in the mean time, and i'll review
[22:22] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, ok will do
[22:22] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: cheers
[22:22] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, ok then I'm off. Have fun over there :)
[22:23] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: thanks, later
[22:23] <erichammond> smoser: The <title> of http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release/ still says "Daily Build"
[22:26] <ScottK> As long as it doesn't say which day, it's not wrong ....
[22:26] <jeiworth> say, errrm, dare i ask this here? *g* is there a way (or an alternative) to run virt-manager on a windows box?
[22:37] <dominicdinada> !wireless
[22:52] <storrgie> ufw is blocking my bridge interface
[22:52] <storrgie> what to do?
[22:58] <npope> storrgie: allow your bridge interface
[22:58] <storrgie> npope: looking for the convention to add tha
[22:58] <storrgie> that*
[22:59] <dominicdinada> i am going to be working on that soon storrgie
[22:59] <npope> ufw is a pretty interface to iptables
[22:59] <storrgie> npope: how do I allow that br0 interface?
[23:00] <npope> sudo /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i br0 -j ACCEPT
[23:00] <storrgie> http://pastebin.com/X7aA2S4V
[23:00] <npope> but i know there is a way your suppose to input that into uwf foo
[23:00] <npope> i think in /etc/ufw/before.rules
[23:01] <storrgie> possibly:
[23:01] <storrgie> sudo ufw allow in/out on br0
[23:04] <jdstrand> storrgie: bridging needs to be handled differently cause it is at a lower layer. see bug #573461 for details
[23:04] <cclausen> oh, wow.  I should leanr to read bug reports before trying to help people...
[23:05] <cclausen> I was wondering how a layer 3 firewall was blocking layer 2 traffic...
[23:05] <cclausen> oh, wait.  that was the person I was helping :-)
[23:06] <storrgie> yeah!
[23:06] <storrgie> just saw your name from IRC
[23:08] <storrgie> hrm
[23:08] <storrgie> so wait
[23:08] <storrgie> easiest way to solve this is add it to the /etc/ufw/before.rules file?
[23:10] <cclausen> "The final step is to disable netfilter on the bridge"
[23:10] <cclausen> I think the sysctl stuff is the better solution
[23:10] <storrgie> oh really?
[23:10] <storrgie> for 'performance'?
[23:11] <cclausen> yeah, I think just turning it off should give better performance than working around the problem in iptables.
[23:11] <storrgie> so just add
[23:11] <storrgie>  net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-ip6tables = 0
[23:11] <storrgie>  net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-iptables = 0
[23:11] <storrgie>  net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-arptables = 0
[23:11] <storrgie> i dont have ip6 enabled
[23:14] <cclausen> shouldn't affect anything giving hte ipv6 entry then
[23:14] <cclausen> I'd do it anyway in case you end up using IPv6 in the future
[23:15] <storrgie> true
[23:15] <storrgie> I did it, marked the config with reference to this bug number
[23:15] <storrgie> thanks!
[23:15] <storrgie> didnt killawatt the server yet
[23:15] <cclausen> is there a way to list all bugs filed against lucid packages in the last week or so?
[23:15] <storrgie> I'm actually considering selling my WD1001FALS and getting 8 more Hitachi 2TiB drives
[23:15] <cclausen> how big are they?
[23:16] <cclausen> and how much do you want for them :-)
[23:16] <storrgie> well
[23:16] <storrgie> they are all 1TiB
[23:16] <storrgie> caviar blacks
[23:16] <cclausen> hmm..
[23:16] <storrgie> TLER enabled
[23:16] <storrgie> how many do you need
[23:16] <storrgie> you can warranty them all
[23:16] <storrgie> i think they all have like 2 years left or more
[23:16] <cclausen> oh, cool
[23:16] <storrgie> 5 of them have 2 years, 4 of them have 3 years
[23:16] <storrgie> I have 9