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haavarosHow do I make a shortcut in a folder in Xubuntu? I've tried adding a shortcut via context menu, this doesn't work01:07
arthurjohnsonI've always opened terminal and made the link manually01:16
haavarosarthurjohnson: I found out that thunar is the window manager, so I added a shortcut with the command 'thunar /path/to/folder', that worked. How do you do it in terminal?01:18
dankusyoooo son02:11
haavaroswhy does update manager suggest gnome-relevant updates, and how do I disable it?02:11
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haavarosWhy does update manager suggest updates relevant to Gnome?03:46
theillestphewlisnt it either gnome or kde03:54
icewolfcaXubuntu is pretty nice04:28
icewolfcait runs relatively well on this athlon 180004:29
intokI need an intel graphics Obiwan Kenobi / Jason Nesmith for help with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9227361#post922736105:41
hexdump_hey all, does anyone remember how to get to trash from the command line?  I deleted a file by mistake and it's not showing up in the gui when I click on the trash bin.05:45
hexdump_nm I think someone helped me.05:46
skarrihello07:06
skarriI was wondering anyone here knew how to turn off tap to click?  I cannot find an option under mouse settings.07:07
skarrimy xorg.conf is pretty much empty07:07
skarriI have an hp pavillion tx250007:08
skarriany ideas folks?07:12
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homebrewcideranybody else having problems with thunar since upgrading to 10.04?07:33
skarrinope07:35
skarrihaving trouble with my touchpad though07:35
skarriwhat kind of problems are you having?07:35
homebrewcidercan't select file to open it07:39
bkm_Does somebody knows how to change the menu07:58
bkm_i am new in xubuntu07:59
TheSheephow would you like to change it?08:02
bkm_sometimes when i install a program there is no icon in the menu08:03
bkm_how can i change that?08:03
bkm_programs in the terminal have no icon i know08:04
TheSheepto appear in the menu, the programs should provide a <programname>.desktop file that goes either to /usr/share/applications/ (global) or ~/.local/share/applications (local)08:05
TheSheepthe file tells what program to run, what is the name and the icon etc.08:06
bkm_ok i will figure this out08:06
TheSheeplook at the existing .desktop files08:06
TheSheepbest put your own files in the local directory08:06
bkm_i am also new in linux but i will learn it i hope08:07
bkm_i have an old laptop with xubuntu install know08:07
bkm_i know already how to change file rights08:08
bkm_and change owner08:08
bkm_thanks TheSheep i wil try to gather more info when i figured this out08:18
x0083144Morning anyone around?08:50
x0083144I just did a remote upgrade and now I got nothing08:52
x0083144looking for any input08:52
x0083144it's a dedicated server with OVH08:53
Zac123whats the difference with the new 10.04 xubuntu?:D12:42
moetunesboots quicker for one thing12:43
Zac123awesome12:44
Zac123!12:44
choiquit13:38
choidoes anyone know how i can change the system-wide proxy?13:48
choihi does anyone know how i can change system-wide proxy?14:17
choiquit14:40
PrebenRplease, how can I add xsession to gdm? I want to be able to login using my .xsession, but there is not choice in the menu for this in Xubuntu 10.0414:51
PrebenRI get KDE, Xubutnu session ?, Xfce session and xterm. Why not xsession? My biggest problem is finding where you can set this up in etc14:52
intokCan anyone help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9227361#post922736115:24
xubuntu269hey if i create an user during install will it overwrite an existing home folder with this name??15:26
charlie-tcaNo guarantees, but it should not overwrite. I think it may overwrite the hidden user files, however, such as .bashrc, .profile, etc.15:28
arthurjohnsonxubuntu269: You will have permissions probs most likely, but it won't overwrite your home dir15:50
jfsdjjksdfmy newly installed system hangs on login screen and keyboard and mouse do not work. what te hell15:58
jfsdjjksdfhow to fin d a file in xubuntu&16:27
charlie-tcajfsdjjksdf: find a file in xubuntu the same way as in Ubuntu, use 'find' in terminal16:29
jfsdjjksdfi don't want to use find in 2010, thanks16:30
charlie-tcause catfish, then, in Applications -> Accessories16:30
jfsdjjksdfwhat the heck catfish has to do with search?16:34
charlie-tcaFirst, a little politeness goes a lot further than demands16:35
charlie-tcasecond, read 'man catfish' and find out16:35
subspiderhi charlie-tca can you help me fixing my web cam??16:37
charlie-tcasubspider: I can't even make my own web cam work16:37
charlie-tca!webcam16:37
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras16:37
charlie-tcaoooo16:38
charlie-tcadoes it help?16:38
subspidermaybe for me not16:38
subspideri just want to flip the image16:38
* charlie-tca has not read it, didn't even know it was there16:38
subspiderhahahahah16:38
charlie-tcaTurn the monitor upside down, then16:38
subspidercharlie-tca, take look then it have nice info16:39
charlie-tcaI don't even have an image16:39
charlie-tcaThanks, I will look at it16:39
jfsdjjksdffirst, catfish has no man page; second i still fail to see how one can guess what 'catfish' has to with file search16:40
jfsdjjksdfwhat image is used on menu button by default?16:41
charlie-tcastrange. Catfish has a manpage here16:41
charlie-tcaicons depend on the icon specified in the .desktop file16:42
jfsdjjksdfit is a stub for man page, because its hasn't required sections16:42
jfsdjjksdfno, a menu button on the panel use a certain pixmap which is defined by applet settings. which is it by default?16:43
charlie-tcaIt does tell you exactly what catfish is, read it16:43
charlie-tcaso, are you just here to argue today?16:43
jfsdjjksdfi asked which image is used for application menu applet, and you instead just open it properties and say, telling me unrelated stuff about .desktop files16:45
jfsdjjksdf'Xfce Menu' applet to be precise16:46
charlie-tca<jfsdjjksdf> what image is used on menu button by default?16:46
jfsdjjksdfyes!16:46
charlie-tcaWhere does that say menu applet?16:46
charlie-tcathe menu buttons use an icon as specified in the .desktop files.16:46
subspidercharlie-tca, what is your camera model ??16:47
charlie-tcasubspider: I don't know, something by logitech. I suppose I just haven't bothered with it much16:48
subspiderbut you have16:48
subspidercharlie-tca, for logitech is diferent16:48
charlie-tcaI plugged it in one day, and played a little bit, but I haven't really put any effort into making it work.16:49
subspidercharlie-tca, http://www.quickcamteam.net/devices16:49
charlie-tcaThank you, subspider. I will check it out in a little bit. Following sabdfl in openweek right now.16:50
subspiderwhat is that16:51
subspider??16:51
jfsdjjksdfanyone in that channel can tell me which icon is used by 'xfce menu' applet by default in Xubuntu?16:51
charlie-tcasubspider: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek16:51
ochosifor some reason nm-applet deactivates my network connection upon reboot, does anyone else have that problem?17:05
ochosi(xubuntu lucid)17:08
charlie-tcaochosi: I don't even have an nm-applet anymore17:15
ochosihm17:15
charlie-tcaIt disappeared. I think it is because I use static ip's17:15
ochosistrange strange17:15
ochosiwell, actually this bug just started to appear recently17:16
ochosii don't really know what it could be connected to17:16
ochosifunny thing is it doesn't deactivate wireless, only general networking17:16
charlie-tcalaptop? which card?17:16
charlie-tcahuh?17:16
charlie-tcacould it be avahi doing it?17:17
ochosiIntel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG17:17
ochosilaptop17:17
ochosipossibly, never changed anything about avahi17:17
ochosifrankly i'm not using it17:17
charlie-tcaIt is default in lucid17:17
ochosiyeah, i guess it even was default in karmic and jaunty, no?17:18
charlie-tcano, it changed in 9.10 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#Avahi%20will%20always%20start%20even%20if%20a%20.local%20domain%20is%20present17:19
charlie-tcaIt is possible that is causing the issue17:19
charlie-tcaI normally have to remove it just so I can connect. It steals my interfaces17:21
ochosihm17:22
ochosicould be17:22
lillemanalrighty18:51
lillemannow my network is down again18:51
lillemanI have the line "auto eth0" in my /etc/network/interfaces18:52
lillemanwhen I run /etc/init.d/networking restart it says18:52
lilleman"Ignoring unkown interface eth0=eth0"18:52
lillemanand when I add the "iface inet et0 dhcp bla bla", then it works :)18:54
lillemanideas? Yes? :)18:54
DSLbughello20:10
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Arpad2my browser cant connect to the net20:11
Arpad2although i typed sudo ppoeconf20:12
moetunes!pppoe20:13
ubottuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE20:13
Arpad2thx i did it20:13
Arpad2but its not enough20:13
moetunesk20:13
Arpad2in terminal i triggered the connection20:13
Arpad2and as a result it shows that really i have an ip address20:14
Arpad2the problem is nor opera neither firefox see it:(20:14
MisioI'm experiencing a very strange problem with thunar. When the detailed list view is enabled, it is possible to explore the first directory level only, the second one opens but it is unusable.20:15
charlie-tcaMisio: yes, it is a bug that has been reported20:15
Misiooh20:15
Arpad2Misio: I have it too20:16
charlie-tcahttps://launchpad.net/bugs/52011820:16
MisioWhen it has been introduced? Maybe into lucid?20:16
charlie-tcayes, lucid20:16
Arpad2i replaced thunar with other program20:16
Misiothank you charlie-tca20:17
charlie-tcaI just use compact view now, and use ctrl+2 to switch to detail view when I really need it. Ctrl+3 switches back to compact view20:17
MisioI will use the compat list20:17
Misiohmmm I was entusiaxt about ubuntu but in lucid there are many things that doesn't work well20:18
MisioSeems to be a Gnome bug20:23
MisioSomething related to gtk+2... funny... I'm fighting to reintroduce gtk+extra on universe :)20:26
Misiocharlie-tca: thank you very much... see you next time :)20:28
craigbass1976Did I see a blurb somewhere about Thunar borking in Lucid?20:45
Sysithere have been problems after upgrading20:47
Sysii think problems with usb drives can be fixed by installing hal20:47
charlie-tcahttps://launchpad.net/bugs/52011820:50
craigbass1976Sysi, nope, just browsing my local hard drive; actually right in /home/me/20:53
craigbass1976Ahhh.  Just get out of detailed view and I'm in.  Close enough for government work.  Could be worse, right?  Could be Windows 7...20:55
xubuntu719q20:56
xubuntu719quit20:56
bardohi21:55
bardoi am having some problems installing xubuntu 10.04 is the the place to get help? :) tnks21:56
charlie-tcaIt would depend on what the issue is. Please ask your question, all on one line, and if anyone here has an answer, they will give it.21:57
GintasDXHey,does usr/bin default permissions is 755?22:02
bardoi am using xubuntu 9.04, and now i would like to install 10.04. When i start installing it apears the first menu where i can slect the language and the select to install, boot from hard drive, etc. i select install but then it apears the xubuntu logo with bad colors and after that the computer hangs. my laptop is a hp dv1000 with a intel graphic card and a ide hard disk22:05
charlie-tcaGintasDX: yes22:06
charlie-tca!nomodeset22:06
GintasDXThank you.22:06
charlie-tcabardo: what number/model is the graphics card?22:08
charlie-tcabardo: does the desktop cd go to the desktop for you?22:10
GintasDXThe new Intel drivers seems to be slower than on 9.10.22:10
bardoin this particular moment i am usin the laptop with the 9.04 installed and works fine, i cant't boot in any option(inclusive the try xubuntu without install) with 10.0422:12
intokAnyone know P4 era intel graphics? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9227361#post922736122:41
bardohi again, i am having problemas installing xubuntu with the Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02). does anyone knows a solution.23:01
mnemochi, i have a weird problem.... my mistake I put tightvnc's vncviewer in full screen, and as the menu didn't come i switched to tty1 and killed it. but now back in tty7 the background image is shown, and also the context menus.... but not the apps!23:34
Aquinais the top and bottom panel visible?23:36
mnemocnope23:36
mnemoconly the bg23:36
mnemocand context menus23:36
Aquinathen open a terminal23:36
Aquinaand enter "xfce4-panel &"23:36
Aquina(without the "")23:36
AquinaDid it work for you?23:38
mnemocstarted a terminal at DISPLAY=:0.0 from vt1, it's running, but not shown23:38
mnemocpanel _is_ running23:38
mnemocbut hidden somewhere :(23:39
Aquinaverify running panels with "sudo ps aux | grep xfce4-panel"23:39
mnemocconfirmed, panel and plugins are there23:40
Aquinathen memorize the PID and kill it if not responding with "kill -9 PID"23:40
Aquinahuh?23:40
Aquinathen reload it with "xfce4-panel &". In case that won't help tell me...23:40
mnemocI have a console shown in two 24" lcd monitor... no need to memorize pids :)23:41
mnemocok, 1m23:41
mnemocdidn't work...23:42
mnemocbut when I went back to vt7 the screen saver was running... after it left I got the "empty" desktop again23:43
AquinaIn case all that doesn't help try: sudo ps -aux | grep 'xfce4-' Then verify if the listed procs are zombies and also verify the basic ones (xfce4-session, xfce4-panel) are running at all.23:43
mnemocthey are all running fine23:43
mnemoctheir visualization is hidden somewhere23:43
AquinaThats crazy. So you killed the xfce4-terminal and started it again. So the problem is something else. already checked /var/log/messages?23:44
mnemoci can move the mouse to where the panel is supposed to be and open a context menu, which i can see23:44
Aquina/var/log/daemon.log also sometimes helps with gdm issues. I think however the xfce4-panel is the problem. Did you receive an error mesage when the problem occoured first?23:46
mnemocdoes "AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switching" means anything?23:46
mnemocit's in var/log/Xorg.0.log23:46
Aquinano23:46
AquinaI recommend you to file a bug report against the package xfce4-meta (best bet) on Launchpad and describe the problem briefly.23:46
mnemocis there a tool to file a bug report collecting data but NOT relying in confirming using a browser or clicking on anything i can't see?23:47
Aquina"Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switching" which timestamp does it have? some hours ago?23:47
mnemoci think it's recent... but it comes after lot of randing about my bluetooth mouse probably related to inactivity periods during the day23:48
Aquinamnemoc I saw such a tool in a different disro but never saw it in Xubuntu. I was always forwarded to Launchpad.23:49
AquinaI think so. at least the AIGLX suspension is not critical and has nothing to do with your current problem.23:50
mnemoci doubt filing a bug without attaching the whole world would help23:50
mnemocok23:50
mnemocdoes the X have something like a Z-index I could change for the background?23:51
mnemocmoving it back to.... the background? :)23:51
mnemocor... can I kill it?23:52
Aquinakill what X?23:53
mnemocthat's what I wanted to avoid23:53
AquinaDo you need to save something?23:53
mnemocI thought the background image could belong to an xfce app23:53
mnemocyes, like 4h of work :(23:54
AquinaNo, it's xfce4-sesion IMHO.23:54
AquinaOMG. Let me think.23:54
mnemocit's so... weird to see irssi in full screen mirrored on two 24" displays23:55
AquinaI would not want to kill the xfce4-session, gdm or X.23:56
mnemocthis damn vncviewer should have done something in the X internals when going full-screen... and (obvisuly) didn't restore when I killed it23:57
AquinaSimple because there are dependancies.23:58
AquinaIt could also be xfwm4 that causes trouble. But there are deps for e.g. wehn firefox is open...23:58
mnemoccan i safely shoot xfwm4 and restart it?23:59
AquinaOk I'm out of ideas. No, xfwm is not an option but chek youself: a hint...23:59

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