[01:07] <haavaros> How do I make a shortcut in a folder in Xubuntu? I've tried adding a shortcut via context menu, this doesn't work
[01:16] <arthurjohnson> I've always opened terminal and made the link manually
[01:18] <haavaros> arthurjohnson: I found out that thunar is the window manager, so I added a shortcut with the command 'thunar /path/to/folder', that worked. How do you do it in terminal?
[02:11] <dankus> yoooo son
[02:11] <haavaros> why does update manager suggest gnome-relevant updates, and how do I disable it?
[03:46] <haavaros> Why does update manager suggest updates relevant to Gnome?
[03:54] <theillestphewl> isnt it either gnome or kde
[04:28] <icewolfca> Xubuntu is pretty nice
[04:29] <icewolfca> it runs relatively well on this athlon 1800
[05:41] <intok> I need an intel graphics Obiwan Kenobi / Jason Nesmith for help with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9227361#post9227361
[05:45] <hexdump_> hey all, does anyone remember how to get to trash from the command line?  I deleted a file by mistake and it's not showing up in the gui when I click on the trash bin.
[05:46] <hexdump_> nm I think someone helped me.
[07:06] <skarri> hello
[07:07] <skarri> I was wondering anyone here knew how to turn off tap to click?  I cannot find an option under mouse settings.
[07:07] <skarri> my xorg.conf is pretty much empty
[07:08] <skarri> I have an hp pavillion tx2500
[07:12] <skarri> any ideas folks?
[07:33] <homebrewcider> anybody else having problems with thunar since upgrading to 10.04?
[07:35] <skarri> nope
[07:35] <skarri> having trouble with my touchpad though
[07:35] <skarri> what kind of problems are you having?
[07:39] <homebrewcider> can't select file to open it
[07:58] <bkm_> Does somebody knows how to change the menu
[07:59] <bkm_> i am new in xubuntu
[08:02] <TheSheep> how would you like to change it?
[08:03] <bkm_> sometimes when i install a program there is no icon in the menu
[08:03] <bkm_> how can i change that?
[08:04] <bkm_> programs in the terminal have no icon i know
[08:05] <TheSheep> to appear in the menu, the programs should provide a <programname>.desktop file that goes either to /usr/share/applications/ (global) or ~/.local/share/applications (local)
[08:06] <TheSheep> the file tells what program to run, what is the name and the icon etc.
[08:06] <bkm_> ok i will figure this out
[08:06] <TheSheep> look at the existing .desktop files
[08:06] <TheSheep> best put your own files in the local directory
[08:07] <bkm_> i am also new in linux but i will learn it i hope
[08:07] <bkm_> i have an old laptop with xubuntu install know
[08:08] <bkm_> i know already how to change file rights
[08:08] <bkm_> and change owner
[08:18] <bkm_> thanks TheSheep i wil try to gather more info when i figured this out
[08:50] <x0083144> Morning anyone around?
[08:52] <x0083144> I just did a remote upgrade and now I got nothing
[08:52] <x0083144> looking for any input
[08:53] <x0083144> it's a dedicated server with OVH
[12:42] <Zac123> whats the difference with the new 10.04 xubuntu?:D
[12:43] <moetunes> boots quicker for one thing
[12:44] <Zac123> awesome
[12:44] <Zac123> !
[13:38] <choi> quit
[13:48] <choi> does anyone know how i can change the system-wide proxy?
[14:17] <choi> hi does anyone know how i can change system-wide proxy?
[14:40] <choi> quit
[14:51] <PrebenR> please, how can I add xsession to gdm? I want to be able to login using my .xsession, but there is not choice in the menu for this in Xubuntu 10.04
[14:52] <PrebenR> I get KDE, Xubutnu session ?, Xfce session and xterm. Why not xsession? My biggest problem is finding where you can set this up in etc
[15:24] <intok> Can anyone help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9227361#post9227361
[15:26] <xubuntu269> hey if i create an user during install will it overwrite an existing home folder with this name??
[15:28] <charlie-tca> No guarantees, but it should not overwrite. I think it may overwrite the hidden user files, however, such as .bashrc, .profile, etc.
[15:50] <arthurjohnson> xubuntu269: You will have permissions probs most likely, but it won't overwrite your home dir
[15:58] <jfsdjjksdf> my newly installed system hangs on login screen and keyboard and mouse do not work. what te hell
[16:27] <jfsdjjksdf> how to fin d a file in xubuntu&
[16:29] <charlie-tca> jfsdjjksdf: find a file in xubuntu the same way as in Ubuntu, use 'find' in terminal
[16:30] <jfsdjjksdf> i don't want to use find in 2010, thanks
[16:30] <charlie-tca> use catfish, then, in Applications -> Accessories
[16:34] <jfsdjjksdf> what the heck catfish has to do with search?
[16:35] <charlie-tca> First, a little politeness goes a lot further than demands
[16:35] <charlie-tca> second, read 'man catfish' and find out
[16:37] <subspider> hi charlie-tca can you help me fixing my web cam??
[16:37] <charlie-tca> subspider: I can't even make my own web cam work
[16:37] <charlie-tca> !webcam
[16:38] <charlie-tca> oooo
[16:38] <charlie-tca> does it help?
[16:38] <subspider> maybe for me not
[16:38] <subspider> i just want to flip the image
[16:38]  * charlie-tca has not read it, didn't even know it was there
[16:38] <subspider> hahahahah
[16:38] <charlie-tca> Turn the monitor upside down, then
[16:39] <subspider> charlie-tca, take look then it have nice info
[16:39] <charlie-tca> I don't even have an image
[16:39] <charlie-tca> Thanks, I will look at it
[16:40] <jfsdjjksdf> first, catfish has no man page; second i still fail to see how one can guess what 'catfish' has to with file search
[16:41] <jfsdjjksdf> what image is used on menu button by default?
[16:41] <charlie-tca> strange. Catfish has a manpage here
[16:42] <charlie-tca> icons depend on the icon specified in the .desktop file
[16:42] <jfsdjjksdf> it is a stub for man page, because its hasn't required sections
[16:43] <jfsdjjksdf> no, a menu button on the panel use a certain pixmap which is defined by applet settings. which is it by default?
[16:43] <charlie-tca> It does tell you exactly what catfish is, read it
[16:43] <charlie-tca> so, are you just here to argue today?
[16:45] <jfsdjjksdf> i asked which image is used for application menu applet, and you instead just open it properties and say, telling me unrelated stuff about .desktop files
[16:46] <jfsdjjksdf> 'Xfce Menu' applet to be precise
 what image is used on menu button by default?
[16:46] <jfsdjjksdf> yes!
[16:46] <charlie-tca> Where does that say menu applet?
[16:46] <charlie-tca> the menu buttons use an icon as specified in the .desktop files.
[16:47] <subspider> charlie-tca, what is your camera model ??
[16:48] <charlie-tca> subspider: I don't know, something by logitech. I suppose I just haven't bothered with it much
[16:48] <subspider> but you have
[16:48] <subspider> charlie-tca, for logitech is diferent
[16:49] <charlie-tca> I plugged it in one day, and played a little bit, but I haven't really put any effort into making it work.
[16:49] <subspider> charlie-tca, http://www.quickcamteam.net/devices
[16:50] <charlie-tca> Thank you, subspider. I will check it out in a little bit. Following sabdfl in openweek right now.
[16:51] <subspider> what is that
[16:51] <subspider> ??
[16:51] <jfsdjjksdf> anyone in that channel can tell me which icon is used by 'xfce menu' applet by default in Xubuntu?
[16:51] <charlie-tca> subspider: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[17:05] <ochosi> for some reason nm-applet deactivates my network connection upon reboot, does anyone else have that problem?
[17:08] <ochosi> (xubuntu lucid)
[17:15] <charlie-tca> ochosi: I don't even have an nm-applet anymore
[17:15] <ochosi> hm
[17:15] <charlie-tca> It disappeared. I think it is because I use static ip's
[17:15] <ochosi> strange strange
[17:16] <ochosi> well, actually this bug just started to appear recently
[17:16] <ochosi> i don't really know what it could be connected to
[17:16] <ochosi> funny thing is it doesn't deactivate wireless, only general networking
[17:16] <charlie-tca> laptop? which card?
[17:16] <charlie-tca> huh?
[17:17] <charlie-tca> could it be avahi doing it?
[17:17] <ochosi> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG
[17:17] <ochosi> laptop
[17:17] <ochosi> possibly, never changed anything about avahi
[17:17] <ochosi> frankly i'm not using it
[17:17] <charlie-tca> It is default in lucid
[17:18] <ochosi> yeah, i guess it even was default in karmic and jaunty, no?
[17:19] <charlie-tca> no, it changed in 9.10 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#Avahi%20will%20always%20start%20even%20if%20a%20.local%20domain%20is%20present
[17:19] <charlie-tca> It is possible that is causing the issue
[17:21] <charlie-tca> I normally have to remove it just so I can connect. It steals my interfaces
[17:22] <ochosi> hm
[17:22] <ochosi> could be
[18:51] <lilleman> alrighty
[18:51] <lilleman> now my network is down again
[18:52] <lilleman> I have the line "auto eth0" in my /etc/network/interfaces
[18:52] <lilleman> when I run /etc/init.d/networking restart it says
[18:52] <lilleman> "Ignoring unkown interface eth0=eth0"
[18:54] <lilleman> and when I add the "iface inet et0 dhcp bla bla", then it works :)
[18:54] <lilleman> ideas? Yes? :)
[20:10] <DSLbug> hello
[20:11] <Arpad2> my browser cant connect to the net
[20:12] <Arpad2> although i typed sudo ppoeconf
[20:13] <moetunes> !pppoe
[20:13] <Arpad2> thx i did it
[20:13] <Arpad2> but its not enough
[20:13] <moetunes> k
[20:13] <Arpad2> in terminal i triggered the connection
[20:14] <Arpad2> and as a result it shows that really i have an ip address
[20:14] <Arpad2> the problem is nor opera neither firefox see it:(
[20:15] <Misio> I'm experiencing a very strange problem with thunar. When the detailed list view is enabled, it is possible to explore the first directory level only, the second one opens but it is unusable.
[20:15] <charlie-tca> Misio: yes, it is a bug that has been reported
[20:15] <Misio> oh
[20:16] <Arpad2> Misio: I have it too
[20:16] <charlie-tca> https://launchpad.net/bugs/520118
[20:16] <Misio> When it has been introduced? Maybe into lucid?
[20:16] <charlie-tca> yes, lucid
[20:16] <Arpad2> i replaced thunar with other program
[20:17] <Misio> thank you charlie-tca
[20:17] <charlie-tca> I just use compact view now, and use ctrl+2 to switch to detail view when I really need it. Ctrl+3 switches back to compact view
[20:17] <Misio> I will use the compat list
[20:18] <Misio> hmmm I was entusiaxt about ubuntu but in lucid there are many things that doesn't work well
[20:23] <Misio> Seems to be a Gnome bug
[20:26] <Misio> Something related to gtk+2... funny... I'm fighting to reintroduce gtk+extra on universe :)
[20:28] <Misio> charlie-tca: thank you very much... see you next time :)
[20:45] <craigbass1976> Did I see a blurb somewhere about Thunar borking in Lucid?
[20:47] <Sysi> there have been problems after upgrading
[20:47] <Sysi> i think problems with usb drives can be fixed by installing hal
[20:50] <charlie-tca> https://launchpad.net/bugs/520118
[20:53] <craigbass1976> Sysi, nope, just browsing my local hard drive; actually right in /home/me/
[20:55] <craigbass1976> Ahhh.  Just get out of detailed view and I'm in.  Close enough for government work.  Could be worse, right?  Could be Windows 7...
[20:56] <xubuntu719> q
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[21:55] <bardo> hi
[21:56] <bardo> i am having some problems installing xubuntu 10.04 is the the place to get help? :) tnks
[21:57] <charlie-tca> It would depend on what the issue is. Please ask your question, all on one line, and if anyone here has an answer, they will give it.
[22:02] <GintasDX> Hey,does usr/bin default permissions is 755?
[22:05] <bardo> i am using xubuntu 9.04, and now i would like to install 10.04. When i start installing it apears the first menu where i can slect the language and the select to install, boot from hard drive, etc. i select install but then it apears the xubuntu logo with bad colors and after that the computer hangs. my laptop is a hp dv1000 with a intel graphic card and a ide hard disk
[22:06] <charlie-tca> GintasDX: yes
[22:06] <charlie-tca> !nomodeset
[22:06] <GintasDX> Thank you.
[22:08] <charlie-tca> bardo: what number/model is the graphics card?
[22:10] <charlie-tca> bardo: does the desktop cd go to the desktop for you?
[22:10] <GintasDX> The new Intel drivers seems to be slower than on 9.10.
[22:12] <bardo> in this particular moment i am usin the laptop with the 9.04 installed and works fine, i cant't boot in any option(inclusive the try xubuntu without install) with 10.04
[22:41] <intok> Anyone know P4 era intel graphics? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9227361#post9227361
[23:01] <bardo> hi again, i am having problemas installing xubuntu with the Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02). does anyone knows a solution.
[23:34] <mnemoc> hi, i have a weird problem.... my mistake I put tightvnc's vncviewer in full screen, and as the menu didn't come i switched to tty1 and killed it. but now back in tty7 the background image is shown, and also the context menus.... but not the apps!
[23:36] <Aquina> is the top and bottom panel visible?
[23:36] <mnemoc> nope
[23:36] <mnemoc> only the bg
[23:36] <mnemoc> and context menus
[23:36] <Aquina> then open a terminal
[23:36] <Aquina> and enter "xfce4-panel &"
[23:36] <Aquina> (without the "")
[23:38] <Aquina> Did it work for you?
[23:38] <mnemoc> started a terminal at DISPLAY=:0.0 from vt1, it's running, but not shown
[23:38] <mnemoc> panel _is_ running
[23:39] <mnemoc> but hidden somewhere :(
[23:39] <Aquina> verify running panels with "sudo ps aux | grep xfce4-panel"
[23:40] <mnemoc> confirmed, panel and plugins are there
[23:40] <Aquina> then memorize the PID and kill it if not responding with "kill -9 PID"
[23:40] <Aquina> huh?
[23:40] <Aquina> then reload it with "xfce4-panel &". In case that won't help tell me...
[23:41] <mnemoc> I have a console shown in two 24" lcd monitor... no need to memorize pids :)
[23:41] <mnemoc> ok, 1m
[23:42] <mnemoc> didn't work...
[23:43] <mnemoc> but when I went back to vt7 the screen saver was running... after it left I got the "empty" desktop again
[23:43] <Aquina> In case all that doesn't help try: sudo ps -aux | grep 'xfce4-' Then verify if the listed procs are zombies and also verify the basic ones (xfce4-session, xfce4-panel) are running at all.
[23:43] <mnemoc> they are all running fine
[23:43] <mnemoc> their visualization is hidden somewhere
[23:44] <Aquina> Thats crazy. So you killed the xfce4-terminal and started it again. So the problem is something else. already checked /var/log/messages?
[23:44] <mnemoc> i can move the mouse to where the panel is supposed to be and open a context menu, which i can see
[23:46] <Aquina> /var/log/daemon.log also sometimes helps with gdm issues. I think however the xfce4-panel is the problem. Did you receive an error mesage when the problem occoured first?
[23:46] <mnemoc> does "AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switching" means anything?
[23:46] <mnemoc> it's in var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:46] <Aquina> no
[23:46] <Aquina> I recommend you to file a bug report against the package xfce4-meta (best bet) on Launchpad and describe the problem briefly.
[23:47] <mnemoc> is there a tool to file a bug report collecting data but NOT relying in confirming using a browser or clicking on anything i can't see?
[23:47] <Aquina> "Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switching" which timestamp does it have? some hours ago?
[23:48] <mnemoc> i think it's recent... but it comes after lot of randing about my bluetooth mouse probably related to inactivity periods during the day
[23:49] <Aquina> mnemoc I saw such a tool in a different disro but never saw it in Xubuntu. I was always forwarded to Launchpad.
[23:50] <Aquina> I think so. at least the AIGLX suspension is not critical and has nothing to do with your current problem.
[23:50] <mnemoc> i doubt filing a bug without attaching the whole world would help
[23:50] <mnemoc> ok
[23:51] <mnemoc> does the X have something like a Z-index I could change for the background?
[23:51] <mnemoc> moving it back to.... the background? :)
[23:52] <mnemoc> or... can I kill it?
[23:53] <Aquina> kill what X?
[23:53] <mnemoc> that's what I wanted to avoid
[23:53] <Aquina> Do you need to save something?
[23:53] <mnemoc> I thought the background image could belong to an xfce app
[23:54] <mnemoc> yes, like 4h of work :(
[23:54] <Aquina> No, it's xfce4-sesion IMHO.
[23:54] <Aquina> OMG. Let me think.
[23:55] <mnemoc> it's so... weird to see irssi in full screen mirrored on two 24" displays
[23:56] <Aquina> I would not want to kill the xfce4-session, gdm or X.
[23:57] <mnemoc> this damn vncviewer should have done something in the X internals when going full-screen... and (obvisuly) didn't restore when I killed it
[23:58] <Aquina> Simple because there are dependancies.
[23:58] <Aquina> It could also be xfwm4 that causes trouble. But there are deps for e.g. wehn firefox is open...
[23:59] <mnemoc> can i safely shoot xfwm4 and restart it?
[23:59] <Aquina> Ok I'm out of ideas. No, xfwm is not an option but chek youself: a hint...