| sbalneav | Evening all | 02:02 |
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| ferranovsky | Hi, i have a problem | 13:27 |
| ferranovsky | in the Edubuntu version 10.04 has been chosen for wallpaper, a picture of Mads Rosendahl. | 13:29 |
| ferranovsky | It is actually a modified image from one of my photographs. A I do not care to be used as wallpaper for Edubuntu, in fact I presented as background for Ubuntu. The problem is that I'd like authorship was recognized in Edubuntu documentation and the wiki. | 13:29 |
| ferranovsky | i try to contact with the webmaster of ubuntu but he/she don't contact with me | 13:29 |
| ferranovsky | hello?? | 13:33 |
| dgroos | Good Morning | 14:33 |
| dgroos | I've spent the last almost 2 hours trying to get my new install of Edubuntu Lucid to boot from another partition on 'my' new server. | 14:34 |
| dgroos | To no avail. | 14:34 |
| dgroos | I've tried startupmanager and the kernel I want to boot from isn't there. | 14:35 |
| dgroos | I've found that changing the boot flag doesn't matter (first by experience then by reading...) | 14:35 |
| sbalneav | Morning all | 14:35 |
| dgroos | Morning sbalneav. | 14:36 |
| sbalneav | dgroos: Hmmm, can you call up the grub menu? | 14:36 |
| dgroos | the new grub2? How? | 14:36 |
| dgroos | with startupmanager? | 14:37 |
| ogra | hit shift on boot | 14:37 |
| dgroos | I'll try--hi ogra | 14:37 |
| dgroos | after bios is done, right? | 14:38 |
| ogra | yes | 14:41 |
| dgroos | (It's doing a 'routine check of drives' can I skip this?) | 14:41 |
| sbalneav | Nah, let it go. | 14:42 |
| dgroos | ok | 14:42 |
| sbalneav | You can never get enough fsck'ing :) | 14:42 |
| ogra | tss tss tss | 14:44 |
| dgroos | OK done... Now I logged in. Was something else supposed to start? | 14:44 |
| ogra | you should see the grub menu if you hit shift right after the bios | 14:45 |
| dgroos | Right after I hit the shift key I saw some dialog box flash on the screen and it had the word grub on it but didn't really see what it said--I'll try again! | 14:46 |
| highvoltage | hey dgroos and ogra | 14:49 |
| sbalneav | Morning highvoltage | 14:49 |
| highvoltage | morning sbalneav! | 14:50 |
| ogra | hi hi highvoltage | 14:50 |
| dgroos | Good morning highvoltage | 14:50 |
| mhall119 | highvoltage: did you see ferranovsky's messages from earlier? | 14:52 |
| dgroos | "grub loading please wait" then it went through a few lines but then goes through normal load. I've tried 3 times, pressing shift for various amounts of time. Any idea? | 14:53 |
| dgroos | ogra and sbalneav: Thanks for your help again. | 14:55 |
| sbalneav | dgroos: are you holding down shift, or just pressing it? | 14:55 |
| sbalneav | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 14:55 |
| sbalneav | seems to indicate you need to hold it down. | 14:55 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: nope, checking scrollback now and kind of catching up on IRC... slept waaaay too long today | 14:56 |
| dgroos | My students are coming soon so I've got to go and I've got students after school so I can't touch base after school BUT... I'll be back on line tomorrow (and earlier!). | 14:56 |
| dgroos | I was holding it down. I'll read that page as well and come more prepared tomorrow! | 14:57 |
| dgroos | take it easy. | 14:57 |
| dgroos | (Oh--I did read much of that page--I'll read it more slowly...) | 14:58 |
| sbalneav | Quick packaging question, for anyone to answer | 15:24 |
| sbalneav | If I want a package to create an empty directory, in /etc, what's the "best" way to go about that? | 15:24 |
| sbalneav | Postinst script? | 15:24 |
| mhall119 | why empty? | 15:25 |
| sbalneav | Well, this is the xexit program I made up for alkisg yesterday | 15:25 |
| mhall119 | okay, I'm not familiar with it | 15:25 |
| mhall119 | what's the purpose of having an empty directory in /etc? | 15:26 |
| sbalneav | it executes a run-parts on a directory, so you can have an Xsession.d-like set of scripts that can be run on termination of an X session | 15:26 |
| sbalneav | so I want to create an empty diw where admins can drop whatever scripts they want, a la /etc/X11/Xsession.d | 15:26 |
| mhall119 | okay, and you want to pre-create those directories | 15:26 |
| sbalneav | correctamundo | 15:26 |
| mhall119 | not sure then | 15:26 |
| sbalneav | Neither was I | 15:27 |
| mhall119 | you could make a "sample" script that doesn't do anything, and install it in those directories | 15:27 |
| sbalneav | yeah, that'd work, I suppose | 15:27 |
| mhall119 | not sure what kind of performance hit that would cause | 15:27 |
| sbalneav | then just use a .install file | 15:27 |
| mhall119 | or if it'd matter | 15:27 |
| mhall119 | debian/install yeah | 15:27 |
| mhall119 | that what I used anyway | 15:28 |
| sbalneav | I'll give that a whirly | 15:28 |
| sbalneav | Our text keeps lining up | 15:28 |
| sbalneav | it's like synchronicity | 15:28 |
| sbalneav | Many miles away | 15:29 |
| sbalneav | There's a shadow on the door | 15:29 |
| sbalneav | Of a cottage on the shore | 15:30 |
| sbalneav | Of a dark Scottish lake | 15:30 |
| sbalneav | Many miiiiles awayyyyyyy | 15:30 |
| mhall119 | sbalneav: http://www.xkcd.com/276/ | 15:41 |
| isforinsects | Who wants to start a facebook suicide pact? | 18:10 |
| alkisg | Nah, I've done that two years ago. | 18:10 |
| alkisg | Last year it was the zombie group... | 18:10 |
| alkisg | (or I misunderstood the question :D) | 18:10 |
| bencrisford | isforinsects: dont understand what you mean :P? | 18:11 |
| dbclinton | Hi, I'm having trouble installing ltsp on 10.04. The live CD session went well - I managed to boot thin clients to the server - but when I installed to the HD there was no ltsp and no install-ltsp GUI. I found ltsp-manager in synaptic, but that crashed before going GUI ([Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11/xkb/keymap/'). | 18:34 |
| dbclinton | How is the actual ltsp install supposed to work? Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? | 18:34 |
| sbalneav | dbclinton: I beleive the ltsp install is there by default. | 19:07 |
| sbalneav | first thing to check is if the ltsp-server-standalone package is installed. | 19:08 |
| sbalneav | mhall119: heh | 19:08 |
| sbalneav | alkisg: Check my PPA | 19:09 |
| alkisg | sbalneav: hello - I pinged you in the morning (mine), it turns out there was a very easy solution for me: | 19:09 |
| alkisg | We ask the clients every 3 seconds to get us a screenshot (thumbnail). I just modified that to `getscreenshot || exit` | 19:09 |
| sbalneav | heh | 19:10 |
| alkisg | ...and problem solved, the client exits if an X display isn't present | 19:10 |
| sbalneav | that'll work. | 19:10 |
| alkisg | ...but xexit is very very useful, we should put it on the wiki as a better alternative to gnome-watchdog | 19:10 |
| sbalneav | Well, I'll keep working on the xexit anyway. I could use it here, at legalaid. | 19:10 |
| alkisg | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GnomeWatchdog | 19:11 |
| alkisg | ^^ that's not a good implementation. xexit is much much better. | 19:11 |
| dbclinton | ltsp-server-standalone is installed (although I think I'll have synaptic reinstall it) | 19:14 |
| dbclinton | sbalneav: synaptic seems happy with my ltsp-server-standalone install...though still no ltsp. | 19:18 |
| sbalneav | dbclinton: is /opt/ltsp there? | 19:24 |
| dbclinton | yes, but /opt/ltsp/i386 is empty | 19:25 |
| sbalneav | So, then you'll just need to do an ltsp-build-client --arch i386 | 19:25 |
| dbclinton | Just tried: got a "I: Retrieving Release | 19:28 |
| dbclinton | E: Failed getting release file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release | 19:28 |
| dbclinton | " | 19:28 |
| sbalneav | ?! | 19:30 |
| sbalneav | Sounds like a network connectivity problem there | 19:30 |
| sbalneav | can you ping archive.ubuntu.com? | 19:30 |
| dbclinton | I'm behind an ipcop proxy...but everything else is working fine and I can ping from terminal | 19:30 |
| dbclinton | I also just browsed to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release so that's open to my computer | 19:31 |
| sbalneav | huh | 19:33 |
| sbalneav | Wonder if you need to set the http_proxy shell variable.... | 19:33 |
| dbclinton | --- archive.ubuntu.com ping statistics --- | 19:33 |
| dbclinton | 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2002ms | 19:33 |
| dbclinton | I've toggled "use the same proxy for all protocols" in proxy preferences. Shouldn't that do it? | 19:34 |
| sbalneav | No | 19:35 |
| sbalneav | try (in the terminal as root:) | 19:35 |
| sbalneav | export http_proxy=your.proxy.address:port | 19:36 |
| sbalneav | because you're running the ltsp-build-client from a shell prompt, and it doesn't use the gnome proxy | 19:36 |
| sbalneav | so once you've set the proxy, then try the ltsp-build-client, and happiness should occurr | 19:37 |
| dbclinton | Not so fast, I'm afraid. I ran export http_proxy= etc. and terminal took it with no error message. But still no happiness. | 19:38 |
| sbalneav | so ltsp-build-client still fails? | 19:38 |
| dbclinton | When I ran it with sudo, however, I got "sudo: export: command not found" | 19:38 |
| sbalneav | do this: | 19:39 |
| sbalneav | sudo -i | 19:39 |
| sbalneav | export http_proxy=... | 19:39 |
| sbalneav | ltsp-build-client | 19:39 |
| sbalneav | you can't sudo the export | 19:39 |
| sbalneav | you have to do it all from the same environment | 19:39 |
| sbalneav | that work any better? | 19:41 |
| dbclinton | Still a problem. | 19:41 |
| dbclinton | I ran both commands after the sudo -i but I still can't access release | 19:42 |
| sbalneav | what happens if you type (in the same terminal): | 19:43 |
| sbalneav | wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release | 19:43 |
| sbalneav | !pastebin | 19:43 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 19:43 |
| sbalneav | Here's what mine looks like: | 19:44 |
| sbalneav | http://paste.ubuntu.com/429100/ | 19:44 |
| dbclinton | That's something! I forgot to include authentification...I'll try it again... | 19:44 |
| dbclinton | I'm still having authentification trouble: Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 407 Proxy Authentication Required | 19:47 |
| dbclinton | 2010-05-06 14:46:47 ERROR 407: Proxy Authentication Required | 19:47 |
| dbclinton | That really seems to be the difference between my system and yours: is there any way to set authentification from terminal? | 19:48 |
| sbalneav | Well, http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.html | 19:48 |
| sbalneav | make sure your proxy vars are set up correctly | 19:49 |
| dbclinton | I'll work on that right away... | 19:49 |
| sbalneav | looks like http_proxy=http://username:password@server's the way to go | 19:50 |
| sbalneav | You've definitely just got a problem with the proxy. Once that's solved, you should be good to go. | 19:55 |
| dbclinton | Absolutely. I'll keep plugging away. I appreciate it so much! Thanks a million! | 19:56 |
| dbclinton | Looks like it's working! | 19:58 |
| bencrisford | highvoltage: ping | 20:02 |
| highvoltage | bencrisford: pong | 20:08 |
| bencrisford | highvoltage: I seem to remember there was something at the meeting that we said we'd do today, but I don't remember what :P | 20:09 |
| highvoltage | advocacy list creation, introducing some of the interested members, etc | 20:09 |
| sbalneav | dbclinton: \o/ | 20:09 |
| highvoltage | I've just been out of action all day | 20:09 |
| highvoltage | I decided to take another hour map shortly after waking up this morning... and ended up waking up at 3pm :) | 20:10 |
| highvoltage | (seems to have done me very well though) | 20:10 |
| highvoltage | bencrisford: if we could do that tomorrow that would be great | 20:10 |
| mhall119 | highvoltage: hour maps? | 20:10 |
| mhall119 | doesn't sound very useful | 20:11 |
| highvoltage | heh, 'nap' | 20:11 |
| bencrisford | highvoltage: ok :) | 20:11 |
| * bencrisford could do with one of highvoltage's "1 hour naps" | 20:14 | |
| bencrisford | its only a matter of time before my caffeine levels drop to dangerous levels and I fall asleep on my keyboard | 20:15 |
| highvoltage | ouch I thought you already stopped | 20:16 |
| highvoltage | (with the coffee) | 20:16 |
| bencrisford | I did | 20:17 |
| bencrisford | for a week or so :( | 20:17 |
| bencrisford | I just couldn't do it for any longer | 20:18 |
| mhall119 | I haven't had a cup of coffee in several hours | 20:23 |
| bencrisford | =O | 20:27 |
| bencrisford | mhall119: are you ok?! | 20:28 |
| mhall119 | bencrisford: it's been rough, I'm not gonna lie | 20:28 |
| bencrisford | mhall119: well, its actually been over 12 hours since my last cup | 20:29 |
| bencrisford | by the time I get home its too late for coffee, and the $*&% they call coffee at school is no way near strong enough, so I don't bother | 20:30 |
| mhall119 | wow, you're my inspiration bencrisford | 20:30 |
| bencrisford | :P | 20:30 |
| sbalneav | Well, xexit seems to work quite nicely | 20:31 |
| sbalneav | 0ubuntu3's been uploaded to my ppa | 20:31 |
| alkisg | \o/ | 20:31 |
| sbalneav | I've got 3 scripts on my /etc/Xexit.d: | 20:32 |
| sbalneav | 11kill-evo-dataserv | 20:32 |
| sbalneav | pgrep -f evolution-data-server | xargs kill -9 || true | 20:32 |
| sbalneav | 12pulseaudio | 20:32 |
| sbalneav | pgrep pulseaudio | xargs kill || true | 20:33 |
| sbalneav | 20gconf-shutdown | 20:33 |
| sbalneav | gconftool-2 --shutdown || true | 20:33 |
| sbalneav | When I log out: absolutely 0 processes left behind. | 20:33 |
| rmainard | I can boot and log in/out with only one user if I leave the settings on default. if I change to the vesa I can boot and login with all of my users but I cannot log out without the system hanging up. I am using the intel 845G chipset in my thin clients. Does anyone have any ideas? | 20:59 |
| dgroos | Good Afternoon All | 21:26 |
| dgroos | As no students showed for after school I've got some tech-time :) | 21:27 |
| dgroos | I got a new server and have partitioned it with GParted. It has 2 larger partitions and a swap. I've cloned my old server on one of those partitions and installed lucid on the other. | 21:29 |
| dgroos | I can't seem to boot from the lucid partition. I used startupmanager and it wasn't able to find find the lucid kernel. | 21:30 |
| dgroos | I think the problem is the way I defined the partitions--I think I was only able to make 1 of them a / root (the old jaunty). | 21:31 |
| dgroos | I've spent 2+ hours and read but still don't know how to get the computer to notice the bootable kernel on the new partition. Any ideas? | 21:32 |
| alkisg | dgroos: are you on a live cd on that pc? | 21:44 |
| dgroos | hi alkisg | 21:45 |
| dgroos | I'm on the pc but not live--I'm running on the jaunty kernel that's on the 'other' parition. | 21:46 |
| alkisg | Ah, ok | 21:46 |
| dgroos | *partition | 21:46 |
| alkisg | run `sudo fdisk -l` and paste the results | 21:46 |
| dgroos | Disk /dev/cciss/c0d0: 145.6 GB, 145659002880 bytes | 21:47 |
| dgroos | 255 heads, 32 sectors/track, 34864 cylinders | 21:47 |
| dgroos | Units = cylinders of 8160 * 512 = 4177920 bytes | 21:47 |
| dgroos | Disk identifier: 0xa125a125 | 21:47 |
| dgroos | Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System | 21:47 |
| dgroos | /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 1 16711 68179828+ 83 Linux | 21:47 |
| dgroos | /dev/cciss/c0d0p2 16711 17432 2939864+ 5 Extended | 21:47 |
| dgroos | /dev/cciss/c0d0p3 * 17432 34863 71119755 83 Linux | 21:47 |
| dgroos | Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. | 21:47 |
| dgroos | /dev/cciss/c0d0p5 16711 17432 2939863+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris | 21:47 |
| dgroos | dgroos@gcos2:~$ | 21:47 |
| alkisg | dgroos: use pastebin for more than 3-4 lines | 21:47 |
| dgroos | didn't know I could type that fast, did ya? | 21:47 |
| alkisg | as it keeps the channel clean | 21:48 |
| dgroos | sorry | 21:48 |
| alkisg | dgroos: erm, you have a primary partition after the extended partition | 21:49 |
| alkisg | Some programs might get mixed up with that, it isn't a good tactic | 21:49 |
| alkisg | You'd better delete teh second and the fourth partition there (extended + swap) and create a primary partition in that space for swap | 21:50 |
| alkisg | dgroos: also, run: `sudo blkid` | 21:50 |
| dgroos | output is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/429147/ | 21:53 |
| dgroos | So, I but from live cd, go to gparted, delete the 2 small partitions, then move the Extended partition up so that it is next to the first partition, and in the remaining space at the end create a new partition--swap. Right? | 21:56 |
| dgroos | *but=boot | 21:56 |
| alkisg | dgroos: the problem is that you have grub 1 in jaunty, and it doesn't see the ext4 partition of your lucid | 21:57 |
| alkisg | So you should change to using the lucid boot manager first | 21:58 |
| alkisg | To do that, install the lucid grub to mbr | 21:58 |
| alkisg | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD | 21:58 |
| alkisg | (copy/paste all of it, it has spaces so your irc client may not consider it all as one link) | 21:59 |
| dgroos | Thanks alkisg! I'll do this and get back... | 21:59 |
| dgroos | alkisg: not having the correct grub, is that why I don't get 'sd1' and 'hd1' etc as drive names when I do fdisk? is the name c0d0p1? or is it /dev/cciss/c0d0p1? I need to know to do the steps in that link... | 22:17 |
| alkisg | dgroos: did you boot with a lucid live cd? | 22:18 |
| dgroos | Yes | 22:18 |
| dgroos | I'm following the directions on the page you linked to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD | 22:27 |
| dgroos | It says to 'mount the file system' I assumed it was referring to the old jaunty system so mounted that partition. | 22:28 |
| alkisg | (sorry for the delays, I'm programming something...) | 22:28 |
| dgroos | np | 22:28 |
| alkisg | No, that's not the jaunty system | 22:28 |
| alkisg | It's the lucid system that you must mount | 22:29 |
| dgroos | ok I'll un-do all I've done so far and redo that correctly... | 22:29 |
| alkisg | ok. After those steps you'll boot into lucid in your hard disk | 22:30 |
| alkisg | Then with a grub update from there, you'll see both OSes | 22:30 |
| alkisg | ...and finally, you'll need to boot into jaunty and tell the grub there NOT to write itself anywhere | 22:30 |
| alkisg | (so that it doesn't overwrite the lucid grub in the mbr) | 22:31 |
| dgroos | OK how do I un chroot? | 22:31 |
| alkisg | exit | 22:31 |
| alkisg | so... do what the page says, then boot into lucid, and ping me again | 22:31 |
| dgroos | right | 22:31 |
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