[00:00] Let me see if I understand. So mutiverse repository is now call "partner" in Lucid? Adept lists a multiverse repo (it's checked) , then there's another tab "Other software" and on that tab theres a couple of "partner" listings. Now this is confusing [00:01] Guest415: no multiverse is multiverse [00:01] yurimxpxman: 64 or 32 [00:01] Guest415: but the sun java packages have moved from multiverse to partner [00:01] dolomite: 32 [00:02] Guest415: and if you are on lucid, you can't have adept [00:02] yurimxpxman: and I'm assuming you installed the libdvdread3 package and ran the install-css script? [00:02] dolomite: yeah, I did [00:03] yurimxpxman: can you recall when you last updated libdvdcss2? [00:03] dolomite: I can play the movie if I run "vlc dvdsimple:///dev/dvd" but no menus.. and I can't rip it with another program [00:03] apparle i'll add the partners. I can' have adept :-) cause i've got it. I installed it. via apt-get. SOmething wrong with that? [00:04] on lucid btw 64 bit [00:04] Guest415: adding the partner repos would do your job [00:05] For other guys:.... is adept still in development [00:05] I don't understand the interface on k-package manager. Adept was more synaptic -ilke. Synaptic is more intuitive. IMO [00:05] dolomite: version is 1.2.9-2medibuntu4 [00:07] Guest415: I agree that adept was better looking than kpackagekit... but it is discontinued, so it is recommended that you use kpackagekit. But I personally recommend the command line apt-get [00:07] Guest415: synaptic intuitive? For whom? It relies on package names.. not good for a new user [00:08] yurimxpxman: +1 [00:10] hey folks -- anybody know if there is a particular package that I need to install to add igoogle gadgets to my plasma workspace? [00:12] sebr: did you just click in Add Widgets and Get New? [00:12] Yes, the only options I have are plasma widget === f0x is now known as fatex === fatex is now known as fire === fire is now known as phate === phate is now known as xero === xero is now known as Guest14900 [00:17] asdf [00:18] yup... managed to delete my hard drive when i tried upgrading to 10.04 LTS... always fun [00:20] so now i have to reinstall all of my programs and whatnot, half of which i cant remember what i had. could anyone with any grace in their soul give me a list of some must have software? [00:23] yurimxpxman: there appears to be a bug. [00:23] dolomite: with my dvd issue? [00:24] dolomite: was it ever resolved? [00:24] bloodsmith: i can pastebin my dpkg-selections-list if you want... === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [00:24] djustice: sure, it couldnt hurt, thanks [00:24] there's something that worked for someone. removing file: /home/user/.dvdcss/ [00:24] bloodsmith: I would recommend, firefox, vlc. kubuntu-plasma-addons, kscreensavers, kscreensaver-xsavers, kubuntu-restricted-extras [00:25] yurimxpxman: ^ [00:26] bloodsmith: http://pastebin.com/RMAyfBmH [00:27] dolomite: doesn't help :( [00:27] apparle: i tried installing the firefox bundle that came with the OS, but it kept throwing up error messages. Said something along the lines of "Firefox is already installed, you DBag"... I couldnt find the program however, so now im a bit miffed... [00:27] My PC resumed from standby badly and now on-board 3COM 3C940 LAN doesn't work. even after BIOS reset The chip's diagnostics and BIOS are all for DOS. Do I run them from WINE, DOSBox, or DOSemu ? [00:27] djustice: thank you kindly, good sir [00:27] bloodsmith: click 'raw' or 'download' up top. then run 'cat filename > dpkg --set-selections' [00:27] bloodsmith: then 'sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade' === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [00:28] bloodsmith: open konsole... write "sudo apt-get install firefox" [00:28] Should I run them these DOS progs from my bootable Lucid kubuntu desktop USB, if so how can I tell if it has an emulator on it? [00:28] !firefox [00:28] firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins - See also !firefox-3.5 [00:28] kool new game: osmos. iz flipn sweet. but 10$. (piracy ftw) [00:28] dolomite: were there any other notes on the problem? [00:29] no, not so far. [00:29] does anyone know if IBM Lotus Sympthony is Gnome or KDE based? [00:29] bloodsmith: oh yea, my dpkg selections are about 4gb. so dont do that unless you want a 'fully pimpd' system. i run 4 tattoo shops (gfx/office/games) on that setup. [00:29] dolomite: that wouldn't explain why dvd shrink doesn't work, either, though [00:29] apparle: got it, ty [00:30] if you can revert to older version of libdvdcss2, please do that and report back. this problem appears to be in the latest version [00:30] yurimxpxman: ^^. I'm going away from the computer for a little bit. [00:31] skierpage, http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/10.04/kubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.manifest has the packages on the CD. No Wine, DOSBox, or DOSemu [00:31] djustice: so basicly, if i want a "fully pimped system", download the "DJustice Ultra Super Mega package collection" [00:31] lol [00:31] dolomite: i was the dude that was worried about losing my data from the other day! guess what! i lost my data! WOO!!! [00:32] dolomite: i couldnt remember if i used this name or sainumeri, did i get it right? [00:32] is the koffice package in Kubuntu Lucid in KDE4? [00:32] bloodsmith: yep ;) [00:32] ewwwphoria: nope. koffice-kde4. [00:32] or do I have to install the koffice-kde4 packages? [00:32] ewwwphoria: is still unstble. [00:32] djustice: alright, thanks. [00:32] bloodsmith: soundz liek you did it wrongly. :P [00:33] djustice: what kind of programs and whatnot do you have on that list? [00:33] ewwwphoria: that being said, they mostly work fine. ;) [00:33] djustice: yeah, wrong to the limit === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant [00:33] bloodsmith: err. gimp/inkscape/chromium/firefox/visualboyadvncae/zsnes/pcsx/ooffice/koffice/kde-full/etc [00:34] bloodsmith: just enough to compile kde from source, run the tattoo shops (graphics and office apps), and waste time on lame/free games. :) [00:35] what about the OpenOffice that comes with Kubuntu, is it KDE based? [00:36] djustice: hah, lol, might just have to get that then. at the very least ill browse it and get some ideas on what to download, im at a friends house using his internet, so i really dont want to kill his bandwidth, you understand... [00:37] ewwwphoria: ooffice isnt kde... it's kde-themed tho. so it fits in nicely. [00:37] hi is this kubuntu support channel? [00:37] bloodsmith: koolkool. you can edit that list. before setting selections. i keep lists handy for diff setups/reasons. :) [00:37] djustice: that's what I wanted to know actually, thanks. [00:37] lvlech: yep :) [00:37] cool [00:38] ewwwphoria: np :) [00:38] does anyone know how to allow files to saved on the desktop [00:39] lvlech: the ~/Desktop folder. save them there. [00:39] but I don't see it on my desktop [00:39] I have to go into the desktop folder in /home [00:39] lvlech: or you mean a folderview style desktop activity? right click the desktop->settings->change 'desktop' to 'folderview' [00:39] lvlech: or 'add widgets'->folderview [00:40] then point the folderview at the desktop folder.. iirc that's default.. [00:40] djustice: yeah, editing would be a good idea. what is inkscape? im assuming its some sort of tattoo editing program? [00:41] desktop activity settings? [00:41] bloodsmith: nah, its a vector app. like adobe illustrator on drugs. good drugs. all(most) of kde's 'scalable'ness was made with it. [00:41] lvlech: that's it. [00:41] lvlech: under 'activity'. change type to 'folderview' [00:41] djustice: aaaaahhh, i see... useless to one such as i, however... i do believe... [00:42] ty! it works [00:42] bloodsmith: its really simple actually... no math involved.. just point and click stuff.. handy app :) til kde's karbon gets stable enough. [00:43] * djustice iz off to try Lucid [00:43] * djustice waves [00:44] djustice: ok, i have no programming background aside from one semester of C++ in highschool... lol, that and if i were to try to create something, im pretty sure that i could find anything i wanted on the net anyways, soooo... [01:01] hi. I am on lucid, how can i close all children windows of one application? right now the only thing i can do is restart the app and that's ouch [01:02] whats the best media player for KDE is it still kaffeine [01:02] ? [01:02] ewwwphoria: that's what I use. [01:02] er no [01:03] ewwwphoria: er, sorry, confusion. for audio, I use amarok. [01:03] ewwwphoria: for video, xine or vlc. Kaffeine was always a bit flakey for my liking. [01:04] chx: that sounds like a very application specific question. [01:04] "dragon player" seems default now [01:04] frogonwheels: does it? Well, it's Skype, Kopete and I guess I will meet a few more. [01:04] i don't like the trial dragon player leaves on recent document [01:04] chx: err task-bar right-click, close [01:04] works for me [01:04] one window [01:04] is there a way to disable recently played or documents for good? [01:05] whaqt if you have twenty? [01:06] chx: , as I said, task-bar close works for me... just closed two windows in skype that way [01:06] now 3. [01:06] * frogonwheels shrugs. [01:06] frogonwheels: i'm trying out moc, amarok seems to crash a lot, have to investigate why... [01:07] how can i remove gnome player? somehow it got installed? when firefox was asking to install missing plug ins,... [01:07] chx. move your mouse over the (say) skype icon in your task bar, press and hold right-click, select 'close' release mouse-button. [01:08] I bet that works if they are grouped? [01:09] no :( [01:09] ok so [01:09] you have skype [01:09] you multiple chat windows [01:09] .. you have 20 windows open , and they're not grouped? [01:09] i want to close all chat windows? [01:10] um i have 4 1920x1200 monitors [01:10] so ... no :P [01:10] my taskbar is kindabig :) [01:11] I have 6 monitors [01:12] good for you [01:12] was hard enough to get four out of a laptop [01:12] please pm i will be away for a few minutes,..to my previous question (if possible) [01:16] mmkay. GM965/intel. 10.04. GLX==fail. why? [01:24] rawr. back to chakra for me >:[ === safer_ is now known as safer [01:34] apologies to the channel. <3 ubuntu people. just not autoconfigurations... [01:34] meanwhile: *hugs* [01:37] * genii sips his coffee and thinks about the hugs [01:53] Hey :) [02:05] hey guys, I just upgraded to lucid and now when I log in to KDE it crashes, running start kde seems to point to an issue with nvidia driver and lo removing the nvidia drivers seems to cause kde to work happily. But... I like having hardware acceleration and reinstalling nvidia-current causes the issue to reappear. Any ideas? [02:10] hello [02:14] is there a way to kix the kbluetooth icon so it not all messed up? [02:14] fix [02:23] bloodsmith, are you still around? [02:24] got it fixed thanks. [02:24] Hey ^^ [02:25] anyone know how to install GLIBC_2.11 ? [02:26] Carefully? [02:26] Yeah [02:26] i need it for a game [02:26] ./Tibia: ./libc6/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by /usr/lib32/libGLU.so.1) [02:29] what wine packages do i download [02:29] Ask in #winehq [02:30] ok [02:31] anyone know? [02:38] Hi [02:40] hi biggFREE!!!! [02:41] BiggFREE: hi!!! [02:41] im updateing Kubuntu 9.10 to 10.4 right now [02:42] hey! [02:42] Hello people :] [02:43] Dracirate: so what version is your libc6? [02:43] derekul: exciting [02:43] yep [02:44] its allmost done getting new package [02:44] ./Tibia: ./libc6/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by /usr/lib32/libGLU.so.1) [02:44] what wine packages do i download [02:45] what? [02:45] #winehq [02:47] i updated my motherboard and cpu to a 6 core [02:47] yesterday [02:48] what processor is that, derekul? [02:48] amd [02:49] hello. [02:49] Hey [02:49] hello there?? [02:49] So, i've installed kubuntu and my internet connection became VERY SLOW when I use this OS. Do you have any suggestions? [02:50] are you running multiple wifi anteannas? [02:50] maybe is the ipv6 [02:50] nope, its not wifi, its a wired connection [02:50] oh [02:50] Dracirate: in this case, what should i do? [02:51] are u n or g [02:51] dunno, I do know others seemed to have that problem as well, maybe a diferrent hardware driver? [02:51] wb [02:51] sorry about that. [02:51] XD [02:51] np [02:51] damm, I dunno what do do [02:51] have you checked hardware driver updates? [02:52] no, on my way for it. [02:52] im running wireless n router wired here at home with no problims [02:52] give that a try [02:52] running wireless and doing fine myself [02:53] im all n here [02:53] I just started using UE and is the best ubuntu flavor I found yet [02:53] i am kinda rejecting Gnome [02:53] the gnome shell suck [02:54] I haven't had any problems with it, only issue I've had is my card reader isn't recognized [02:54] im so use to useing redhat its a big chang to Kubuntu [02:55] never used red hat myself [02:55] the only problem i got was the splash screen [02:55] but now looks better [02:55] I tried ubuntu, UE, mint, and fedora [02:55] the problem is not any driver [02:55] is the splash screen [02:55] damm, dunno what to do [02:55] is to small [02:56] gonna head, but glad I found this on here [02:56] will be back for sure [02:56] tc all [02:57] you too [02:57] anyone has another idea? [02:57] also, how can I disable ipv6? [02:58] http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-1004.html [02:58] maybe that help in kubuntu too [02:59] thank you, I'll give it a try too. [03:01] brb [03:01] kk [03:01] np [03:01] ^^ [03:01] how can i remove gnome player? somehow it got installed? when firefox was asking to install missing plug ins,... [03:03] sudo apt-get uninstall gnome-player [03:03] ? [03:04] would that also remove all the other stuff as well not just the player? [03:05] what else you want to remove? [03:06] i didnt want to install it, it appeared after installing missing plug-ins for firefox, but i never had gnome player before now. [03:06] sudo apt-get uninstall gnome-player only remove the gnome player [03:09] Dracirate: no such thing as uninstall..shud be apt-get purge [03:11] sidHart, i did that and it came back as no such package... [03:11] so the gnome-player [03:11] zus: what package did u enter? [03:12] Does the kubuntu install not install the nvidia drivers by default? [03:12] ahh it says GNOME MPlayer,....i think dragon is based of Mplayer so is this GNOME MPlayer ok to remove? [03:13] zus: the package name is mplayer [03:14] zus: shud be sudo apt-get purge mplayer [03:14] zus: dragon doesn't need any gnome stuff [03:14] sidHart, so Mplayer and GNOME MPlayer would be two different packages [03:16] zus: the gnome menu names has nothing to do with the package name that apt-get recognize.. [03:17] I thought dragon was based on xine [03:17] kaffieine is from what i was told before [03:18] again no such package [03:18] this is kinda wired. [03:19] "kinda" ? [03:20] its there in the menu but it's not found in the "sudo apt-get purge " [03:21] zus: replace with mplayer [03:21] sidHart, yep [03:22] zus: ?? [03:22] i did [03:22] and? [03:22] same out come [03:23] it's still in the menu in multimedia [03:23] brb [03:23] zus: edit the kde menu and find out which is the command line [03:23] sidHart, one sec . [03:24] sid it says gnome-mplayer %u [03:25] forgot to hit tab [03:25] zus: then replace with gnome-mplayer [03:27] sidHart, that did the trick... what exactly did i do? ( still learning the command line myself) [03:29] zus: sometimes the menu names does not correspond exactly the package name [03:31] apt-get requires the exact name.. [03:33] hello I have a network question [03:33] What should the transfer speed be on a 1Gb connection [03:34] zus: you can learn more about apt-get by reading - try this ' man apt-get'. a good companion is dpkg. so try man dpkg too [03:34] currently I am using SSH to transfer files and I only get 1.1mbs/s [03:34] zus: to find out what packages are installed try this [03:35] yotux- there are a lot of factors that determine transfer speed between two computers [03:35] zus: dpkg -l | grep 'what-u-r-looking' [03:35] sidHart: I find this to be very useful for finding out what packages are installed: alias lspkg="dpkg --list | grep ^ii.* | cut -d ' ' -f 3 | sort | less" [03:35] Then grep the output [03:36] sidHart, thanks :) [03:36] zus: np..glad to be of help [03:36] Dragnslicer: any idea where to start? [03:38] DarthFrog: i prefer mine first as it wud tell me desc and version [03:39] yotux- unless the two computers are connected through a crossover cable or both connected to a gigabit switch, you won't get 1 Gbps transfers anyway [03:39] I have my Dlink NAS box my Gigswitch and my Desktop [03:40] I use wifi to link to the web router [03:40] I am thinking wifi is the issue? slowing down the 1GB interface [03:42] !! nvidia [03:42] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [03:47] sidHart, yeah i dont mind having gnome items but first i want to get used to default items would certainly help in learning what is what from who and where... [03:48] hi room! is anyone familiar with netbeans ide? i have problems with my 6.8 installation on kubuntu! [03:49] i always get red exclamation marks left to my code [03:49] code assistance is configured properly [03:49] any suggestions? [03:50] my firefox version 3.6.3 keeps crashing - just disappears for no reason - I tried to downgrade by purging and when i reinstall an old version, i get back firefox 3.3.6 - how can i get 3.0? [03:51] olskolirc i have the same problem sometimes playin quakelive [03:54] * darkdelusions grumbles [04:07] olskolirc: sudo apt-get install firefox = [04:08] is it possible to circumvent the GLX memory leaks in Lucid in this way? [04:08] it keeps over writing dolomite to the 3.6.3 but i just thought to delete .mozilla in my home directory and that should take care of it and then I can get the version I want [04:08] its the .mozilla that holds all the settings dolomite [04:08] I purged first [04:08] then rm -rf .mozilla [04:09] olskolirc: I'm surprise purge didn't take care of that. [04:09] nope with three tries [04:10] its all hidden in the .mozilla [04:10] olskolirc: so after rm -rf ./.mozilla any luck? [04:10] im not done yet [04:10] going to find 3.0 [04:11] my repository doesn't have it it has 3.0 dummy upgrade which takes me to 3.6.3 same as the 2.0 dummy upgrade i just might find a an older bz2 then soft link my own plugins [04:12] I sound like I know what im talking about huh? haha we'll see brb [04:12] olskolirc: oh yeah, of course the lucid repos wouldn't have the 3.0. darn. if you're comfortable compiling; bz2 should be successful. [04:12] for the first time my firefox icon is gone now it reads ? [04:12] darkdelusions: why are you grumbling? [04:12] nice [04:13] is there an off topic for kubuntu? [04:13] !offtopic | zus [04:13] zus: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [04:13] ubottu threat [04:14] dolomite, gracias (it is cinco de mayo 8) ) [04:14] !es | zus [04:14] zus: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [04:14] haha, happy cinco [04:14] niceee dolomite where can i get the ubottu commands? [04:14] lol [04:15] olskolirc: I have no idea; I just try them and learn when people use them. [04:15] ok [04:15] ok im going to look for firefox brb [04:15] get it done! [04:16] I found an old one, not easy to find http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Mozilla-Firefox-3-Download-48870.html [04:17] nevermind that link doesn't work [04:18] olskolirc: I had the same issue a whie back; it's a pain in the butt to find old firefoxes [04:19] oh im determinded i work at home and i can't have firefox crashing on customer sales leaving me holding the phone stuck on stupid [04:19] im so pissed at mozilla! [04:19] giving us a piece of s* that doesn't work! [04:21] is there a way to run something from the k-menu as root? [04:21] I got it now dolomite http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/download-firefox-browser-version-3.html [04:21] its a bz2 file [04:22] olskolirc: no need to share with me; I left firefox years ago. [04:23] beltorak: what exactly? [04:23] what do you use dolomite konq? [04:23] dolomite: anything - like to be able to select the system settings icon and right click and run as root.... or something similarly easy [04:23] my konq is broke i can't get an address bar or internet buttons like home, back forward i don't know where they all went [04:23] konq on this machine cuz it's slow. chromium on my main machine. [04:23] sigh lotsa work here guys [04:24] beltorak: there are exceptions but generally you can type 'kdesudo ' from terminal [04:24] beltorak: in this case kdesudo systemsettings [04:25] right, but i like the auto-complete i get, which goes away when using kdesu as the first command... [04:25] if i start typing "system", i get a suggestion for "systemsettings", but if I do "kdesu system" there's no such intelligence [04:25] to the UI [04:26] beltorak: I don't know about your auto-complete [04:27] but that's how you launch from CLI [04:27] well i was using the "run" input box, but that really only works when I know the application name [04:27] dolomite, maybe everyone is asleep in the off topic channel, hehe aint seen anything going on [04:27] if I'm just exploring the k-start menu it would be nice to be able to select something and runas root [04:28] zus: not a talkative bunch tonight I guess! [04:28] beltorak: would be pretty nice but if you use CLI enough you'll memorize the programs you use the most [04:30] understood, but the point is that i typically don't run these things often..... anyway, guess i'll cahlk it up to a feature request. Where would I file that? KDE's bug database? [04:30] **chalk it up to.... [04:32] how do I change the GTK settings while in KDE? wireshark looks like crap cause the font is 12 or 18 point or something.... or better [04:32] is there a decent kde based packet sniffer? i dont need promiscuious [04:33] beltorak: make a suggestion at forums.kde.org [04:33] wireshark is just fine [04:40] ok; thanks dolomite [04:41] i have tried wireshark now too, but i cannot choose any interface [04:41] in the setting under file associations i changed mpeg3 to amorok, nothing changed. im trying to make mp3 open amarok instead of VLC. VLC is opening im guessing since it's been installed after amarok was. [04:43] vlc and amarok each have their own file associations right? [04:43] (they each have settings for it?) [04:45] im not sure? but before i installed VLC every mp3 i opened, opened with amarok [04:46] i only got VLC to play the files dragon player and amarok wouldnt open and after installing it everything open in VLC [04:47] i realized this when files onced opened with amarok are now opening in VLC [04:48] Has anyone had sound issues in lucid I can hear the start up sound when I boot up or even when I log off but i am unable to hear any sound in amarok, wine, vent, Firefox [04:49] zus: I'm going to quickly chime in. When you go to the filetype menu from the properties dialog, what is the first program listed? [04:50] gohmifune, checking [04:51] gohmifune, under file associations for mpeg? [04:52] mp3^ [04:52] mpeg3^ [04:52] whatever the filetype you're trying to change is. [04:53] NM my question my PCM was turned down :) [04:53] darkdelusions: whew! it's never that easy. [04:53] at first it was GNOME-MPlayer but that got removed,...but it was the only one there. [04:53] dolomite: no kidding [04:54] zus: so you don't have anthing associated with mp3? === ilya is now known as ilya-x [04:54] zus I thought you said you'd already associated [04:54] dolomite: but i have had great success with 10.04 I have had to fix any of the little quirks that my laptop has [04:54] gohmifune, i clicked add and wrote amarok and still nothing [04:54] darkdelusions: it's been pretty hit-or-miss but so far it's been a great OS [04:55] im happy with it, its all these little settings that get me frustrated when i cant get them fine tuned after trying for a while [04:55] dolomite: I have an asus laptop and it got a light sensor in it and every release i have to go in and hack a file to get it to work... I was estatic when my jack sensing for my headset worked right out of the box [04:56] its a beautiful thing indeed [04:56] zus: you typed amarok where? [04:57] gohmifune, where it once said GNOME-MPlayer [04:57] I've just installed whatever updates KPackageKit found today (around 9 bug fixes), and now I have extra items in my boot loader list... is this intended behavior? It now lists 2.6.32-22-generic [04:57] and 2.6.32-21-generic [04:59] gohmifune, when i click mpeg3 in the box where it says application prefered order [04:59] ilya-x: hello again. these new entries are bootable right? [05:01] I've only booted into 2.6.32-22-generic, which seems like what everything should've been updated to... so not sure why it lists the older version as well [05:01] zus: are you typing amarok in this window. http://imagebin.ca/view/2AyCjDBA.html ? [05:01] ilya-x: I believe you can remove them in grub but I'd recommend keeping them in case you run into an issue that's resolved by booting into the old kernel [05:01] ilya-x: doesn't hurt! [05:02] is it just going to keep on adding more and more entries into grub every time I allow it to update my system? [05:02] or does it just keep the most recent one for backup? [05:02] how is it "supposed" to work? [05:03] ilya-x: I don't know actually. grub2 is not familiar to me. kernel updates aren't *that* frequent though === chx is now known as chx_zZz [05:06] gohmifune, i went to settings-advanced-file associations-audio-mpeg3 http://imagebin.ca/view/U_N96uXP.html [05:07] zus: an idea. Delete Amarok, and click add again [05:07] ilya-x: In my experience, all the old kernels are kept. [05:07] zus: don't type it in this time. [05:07] zus: find it in the list of programs [05:08] gohmifune, ok it updated, didnt do that before... [05:09] zus: does it work now? [05:09] im checking now [05:10] gohmifune, VLC is still opening [05:10] zus: hm, is VLC listed? [05:11] gohmifune, no only amarok. [05:11] is VLC running? [05:12] nope i think i fixed it... [05:12] one sec [05:13] gohmifune, are mp3's mpeg3? [05:13] to my knowledge. [05:13] i found VLC as the top program over amarok under mpeg [05:14] zus: It does group them together sometimes [05:14] so what is mpeg3? [05:14] zus: mpeg3 is audio, mpeg is video [05:15] gohmifune, thats what i thought, should i go back to nothing under mpeg3 as it originally was? [05:15] zus: did it work then? [05:16] yep, but i fixed it under mpeg not mpeg3. [05:16] least thats where i found VLC at [05:18] gohmifune, now i would not want amarok to open when watching videos dragon player cant play (the reason VLC was installed ) [checking that out now] [05:19] you mean VLC as an alternative to DragonPlayer? [05:21] gohmifune, ok all seems ok, and yeah [05:21] everything is working? [05:21] i have some .swf files that are videos 9i've used VLC to watch them) but aren't playing in them now [05:22] in 9.10 VLC played them but not now [05:22] 10.4^ [05:24] brb [05:32] ok im back on track now,...some how firefox and every window got laggy [05:37] now i have bug fixes. hope its something new and not brought on by my mucking about [05:38] I have the FF problem too [05:39] brb system restart is needed. === fire is now known as bawww [05:40] * zus takes a deep breath [05:41] hey, is it possible to access Ubuntu One Music store through Amarok? [05:43] Is the system connection in knetwork manager still not implemented [05:43] bawww: I'm pretty sure it is rhythmbox only [05:44] gohmifune: why'd they do that, limit it to rhythombox? [05:45] gohmifune: amarok has the ability too, doesn't it? [05:45] gohmifune, thank you for helping me and everyone else as well. [05:46] i donno i like it when kubuntu doesn't get a lot of the new stuff that ubuntu gets [05:47] like the theming and weird windicator idea [05:47] i guess we'll get another alternative, maybe music that servers ogg/FLAC? [05:47] i kinda wish kubuntu did [05:48] for the last few weeks of karmic i was using kde4.4.2 and i was "nothing changed" [05:48] or pluse audio! [05:49] Hello people I need help kate does not wanna open the .js files in 10.04 I dont know why, I click edid with grease monkey, I selected kate and it says and error is happening: It cannot interpret the .js when in 9.10 It could do with the same scrip [05:49] when i first tried kubuntu the network manager had a window that showed who was avaialble for wireless with waves and thier distance from me...how can i get that back? [05:51] zus: click on the icon and choose connect to another network [05:52] bawww: kubuntu lags behind a bit, but we have the other services, so it is doable. There are tradeoffs [05:53] I'm out guys. Take care. [05:54] darkdelusions, it just gives me a list, wich is just as fine but i thought the other gui was cool too [05:54] zus: there's a lot of stuff done under the hood [05:55] the lucid ubuntu theme wasn't that great also [05:56] Question, how to remove kopete from starting on user login? [05:56] bawww: do you know if there is a way to setup my wireless as a system account or is that just an check box there for future development? [05:57] darkdelusions: you mean automatically connect to a wifi when you login? [05:57] darkdelusions: connections configured in /etc/network/interfaces are considered system ones [05:57] im guessing that checkbox displays its status as one of those [05:57] as opposed to being used for toggling it [05:58] (is the checkbox unclickable?) [05:58] does anyone use read it later for bookmarking in Firefox? [05:58] maco: ya the check box is unclickable [05:58] yeah so im guessing its for disply, not for configuration [05:58] I just want to have the wifi auto login no matter who login and not have to login to kwallet [06:00] darkdelusions: might have to get your hands dirty in command line for that [06:00] I was hoping they had added an option like in ubuntu where you could enable it for all users [06:00] there is definitely a way to set your default wifi probably in /etc/network/interface [06:02] help I have a gateway netbook with win 7 starter I installed ubuntu netbook via wubi and after install i rebooted and all I get is (after hitting enter to load ubuntu) is a flashing curser (underscore) and never load but if I edit the command in grub for recovery mode (chande hd to 0,1 insted of 0,2 it loads [06:02] can anyone help? [06:02] ? === ep is now known as Guest17658 [06:13] the same thing i did with amarok and VLC i can do for browsers? [06:15] Hello All I From INDONESIA [06:16] WOYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ADA URANG INDONESIAN GAK ? [06:16] juragan_kambing: Hello from Canada. You don't have to shout, we can hear you. :-) [06:16] kUBUNTU IS THE BEST [06:16] juragan_kambing: Please turn off your Caps Lock. [07:07] what makes kubuntu so completely different? before trying it i asked about it and was told its ubuntu with the kde. [07:08] but there are somethings kubuntu dont have from ubuntu and the other way around. [07:10] yea a total new guy thing to ask, but to me its defiantly two different worlds, not asking wich is better dont get me wrong [07:11] zus: 'cause kde has most of it's own apps it is pretty different to ubuntu but works the same if that makes sense [07:11] moetunes, it does, but only cuz i've been using kubuntu for a little less than 2months. [07:15] i did like ubuntu alot, if i change back i wish i can take some things from kubuntu and mash em up. [07:15] number one reason i changed was dolphin [07:18] zus: only prob with mixing gtk and kde is load times for diff apps - works ok [07:22] moetunes, i probably didnt get to use nautilus as much use as i have dolphin [07:23] zus: I never thought nautilus was the best for me... [07:24] the video mentioned doplhin having the same features and then some over nautilus so i was sold. [07:25] especially if a file manager was one of the daily use programs for me [07:25] you can dual pane dolphin apparently - never tried tho [07:25] click plit to turn it on and off [07:27] i use that alot to shuffle files from one hdd to another. rarely use column unless im working with a folder. i love the terminal option to be under dolphin, im in the (cli) directory rather than having to right click a file and click open in terminal. [07:28] what i have not tried to look for yet is themes in dolphin, and the terminal [07:32] in ktorrent how can i keep TPB as the search engine till i change it manually? [07:33] it seems to change every time i search for something, unless i search from within the site in the k torrent window [08:03] what is the most suitable mp3 plugin for amarok? thanx [08:09] Hello. Jobob is on schedule today! If you need help Ask me! === jobob is now known as Jobob [08:26] Jobob is on schedule! send messages now! [08:30] :D Anyone need help? :D [08:30] :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) [08:30] Jobob: stop it pls [08:30] ... it is u moe [08:31] i added a capital to my nickname [08:31] ... [08:53] Hi! Anyone willing to guide a diehard KDE3 fan who's trying to get used to KDE4? [08:53] kwtm: ask, and the answers will be given when available (:) [08:54] Oki! Anyone have tips on how to run programs from the keyboard? I set it so that the K-button is activated with Ctrl-Esc, and it lets me search programs. [08:55] kwtm: you can do that, but you also can press alt+f2 [08:55] Unfortunately, when I type in "Kate", it gives the choice of either "Kate" or "run Kate" and says: "I have no idea which choice you want, so unless you move your hand from the keyboard to the mouse to click on one of these, I'm just going to sit here and stew." [08:56] kwtm: tab and then use arrows to choose [08:56] Tm_T: Ah, I see that the Alt-F2 selector is a bit more intelligent and defaults to the first choice without needing any mouse clicks, Thx. [08:56] kwtm: in kmenu, just arrows up and down change your selection [08:57] Is there a way to set an application to be launched by shortcut? Eg. in KDE3, I used to have an "app" called "insert timestamp into Klipper" and I had a shortcut key, but here I don't know how to run that script with a single keypress. [08:58] I know it's possible, but I don't know exactly how, sorry [08:59] Okay. How do I minimize or maximize windows on the keyboard? I can't seem to get the usual Alt-Space menu from which to choose "minimize" or "Advanced > Keep Window Above Others" etc. [09:00] kwtm: alt+f3 gives the menu, but I think there's direct shortcuts for those too [09:00] Tm_T: Ah, didn't know about Alt-F3. Thanks! [09:01] What is Nepomuk for, in everyday practical terms? Is it just so you can use Strigi to look for files quickly? [09:02] kwtm: nepomuk is the whole system to hold and handle metadata of any information, strigi is just file index/search part of it (: [09:02] or this is how I see it anyway [09:03] Tm_T: What I mean is: for now, is Strigi the only practical use for Nepomuk, or should I be doing anything differently to take advantage of Nepomuk? For example, can I write a script to say "nepomuk --find-photos Photos_of_my_wife"? [09:03] kwtm: ye something like that can be done [09:04] kwtm: or search all photos of something with rating of 4 stars [09:05] What about Akonadi? Is that part of Nepomuk? [09:10] kwtm: Akonadi is keeping your PIM information, which can then be used with nepomuk (don't know how well this works with current stable releases) [09:11] Tm_T: I see. Okay. What about multi-key shortcuts? Like Win-A,B means one thing, Win-A,C means another? Not sure how to set this. [09:11] kwtm: me neither [09:24] is Kmail always active even when I don't see any such icon on the screen (neither system tray nor taskbar)? [09:24] shouldn't [09:25] I keep getting these pop-ups saying "can't access ~/var folder in Kmail" or something. [09:25] well, you can set it to have systray always when it's on, dunno how it acts when it's not configured such way === ubuntu___ is now known as eagles0513875 [09:29] hey guys [09:35] im having issues getting lucid onto my 2tb hdd [09:35] it seems like the installer keeps dying [09:35] at the point where it starts to format the hard drive [09:36] !install [09:36] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [09:37] eagles0513875 can you pm me if it works i am planning on buying a 2tb HD don't want it to f*** things up a bit for me ._. [09:38] RaGNORAK: yes i will im fighting with the installer atm :( [09:40] is someone having problems with the kubuntu-backports repo? [09:41] I can't upgrade because there are some broken dependencies [09:43] pepee: tried in konsole sudo dpkg --configure -a ? [09:44] gonna try [09:44] k [09:44] hmm I have mixed two repos :S [09:44] o [09:45] kubuntu-ppa/backports and kubuntu-ppa/ppa [09:45] !usb | RaGNORAK [09:45] RaGNORAK: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent === SwissTorExit is now known as starslights [09:45] RaGNORAK: see the first link [09:45] * starslights great the chan [09:46] hi starslights [09:46] does lucid support writing to google calendars? [09:46] hi eagles0513875 :D [09:46] in kontact === ubuntu is now known as eagles0513875 [09:53] RaGNORAK: im back [09:56] hi folks, someone knows a kde 4.5 nighlty ppa? === Tm_T changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | Kubuntu 10.04 LTS: http://kubuntu.org/news/10.04-lts-release | KDE SC 4.4: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.3 | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/Guideines | Torrent: (x86) http://bit.ly/aCu4C0 (AMD64) http://bit.ly/cCS4kR (Netbook) http://bit.ly/9PFkOD [09:57] hey Tm_T [09:58] moin [10:02] RaGNORAK: :( almost had it [10:03] hi ! i'm trying to set up a ldap server [10:03] but i can't find in /etc/ldap/ the slapd.conf [10:04] i installed slapd, migrationstools, ldap-utils and db4.x-util [10:05] !ldap [10:05] LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information, installation instructions and getting clients to authenticate via LDAP see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer [10:05] Anubis: that what you looking for ? [10:06] eagles: i'm on that page, but it seems that the openldap guide presents some error [10:07] Anubis: try in terminal sudo updatedb && locate slapd.conf [10:07] i've done that already [10:08] ok [10:08] Anubis: have you checked in /etc [10:09] hi! I have a problem with kubuntu and java. When I start Scrumworks via Java Web Start (openjdk or sun-java, doesn't matter) in kubuntu, it hangs when trying to render certain elements of the UI. In Ubuntu (from a live CD) it works fine. I've tried installing LXDE alongside KDE and started in LXDE but had the same problem. [10:09] eagles: yes [10:09] i have only ldap.conf [10:10] and i have this directory structure: sasl2, schema and slapd.d [10:11] Anubis: :( wish i could help ya out a bit more :( but i havent worked with ldap that much :( [10:15] eagles: dont worry [10:17] (Sorry if my introduction was too long. I didn't want to interrupt the current conversation with too many messages, so I went for one long message instead.) [10:19] colomar: thats the way you shoudl do it [10:20] * eagles0513875 wonders if colomar has video driver installed [10:22] about video driver, i am happy no more problem with booting, i just installed first the update before the driver and so run well [10:24] colomar: you have the video driver installed im gettign the impression that your missing video acceleration from your video card for rendering the ui [10:25] I have desktop video acceleration [10:26] ok [10:26] * eagles0513875 ponders [10:26] Compositing works fine with opengl [10:26] colomar: what are you using for the ui swing or awt [10:26] How can I find that out? [10:26] does compostiting also work on integrated intel graphic cards? [10:27] * colomar doesn't know much about java [10:27] jtheuer__: Yes it does on my machine [10:27] colomar: can you check if you have direct rendering [10:28] colomar: in terminal type this glxinfo | less [10:28] if direct rendering is yes you have full 3d acceleration if no then your missing a driver [10:28] It's yes [10:29] ok [10:29] colomar: what exactly is scrum works [10:29] oh wait colomar i know what the problem is [10:29] cd's have slow read write access so its trying to read from the cd as well as render scrumworks [10:30] to eliminate that issue you would need to install lucid onto ur machine [10:30] *your [10:31] eagles0513875: That was a misunderstanding. It does work with ubuntu lucid (gnome) from a live cd (and on my colleague's machine with installed lucid), but it does not work with my installed kubuntu lucid [10:32] With a opensuse 11.2 live cd it didn't work either. So it must either be a problem with KDE or Ubuntu (gnome) does something that fixes it. I'm not sure [10:34] And to answer your other question: Scrumworks is an application for managing the Scrum software development process. It doesn't do anything fancy. It's basically just some tree components it tries to render [10:34] colomar: that i find totally strange [10:34] colomar: your machine up to date [10:36] eagles0513875: Yes. [10:37] It seems to actually be a bug in scrumworks. I just found this: http://community.danube.com/danube/topics/scrumworks_client_not_working_with_kde_kubuntu_9_10 [10:37] But the strange thing is that it doesn' affect Ubuntu [10:38] But it can't be kwin because I had the same problem when starting it on the same machine from LXDE [10:38] colomar: is the scrumworks source code available [10:38] cuz i know java and maybe i could try and debug it [10:40] eagles0513875: Sadly it isn't available :( [10:41] Hello!~ =] [10:41] Is anyone one right now/ [10:41] ?8 [10:41] !hi | coreberserker [10:41] coreberserker: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! [10:41] !ask | coreberserker [10:41] coreberserker: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [10:41] RaGNORAK: ill be back [10:42] OKay Well I was wondering if anyone has problems with Dolphin crashing like me? [10:43] I already submited a bug report for it but I was just wondering if anyone has been having the same problem [10:44] The following problem occurred: it was kubuntu 9.10. OpenOffice 3.1. Quietly open file format Excel XML 2003. Installed kubuntu 10.4. OpenOffice 3.2. Files no longer open and save. In what may be the problem? === ubuntu is now known as eagles0513875 [10:46] coreberserker: yes, it's because of Nepomuk [10:46] RaGNORAK: and colomar: im back [10:46] If this crash annoys you too much, disabling Nepomuk [10:46] in the System Settings might be a temporary workaround. [10:47] starslights: Thank you I'll give that a try =] [10:48] you are welcome, i must say that it crash more when the system are fresh after less for me [10:48] wb [10:49] Ahhh Okay I turn it off in the service manager right? [10:49] ty RaGNORAK [10:49] yeah, i think so, i don't have do that , i know how work without too much crash now === naught101_ is now known as naught101 [10:50] or click right on the icone in the taskbar [10:54] eagles0513875: Which part of KDE or which difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu might most likely cause the problem? It is okay for me to change my system for scrumworks to work, but I'd like to keep as many KDe components as possible [10:54] colomar: if you use gnome you can still keep kde apps [11:01] hi. i need to join some rar files in which a single file is splitted, but ark doesn't allow me to do it... [11:02] http://pastebin.com/LkdyXjnf <---can anyone tell me why i keep getting this error and im booting off a live usb [11:03] Bucky: tried unrar from konsole? - unrar e /path/to/first/file [11:04] Bucky you need to install the rar parts of ark [11:04] moetunes: unrar is already installed? [11:04] coreberserker: fron kpackage? [11:05] Bucky: try in konsole unrar and hit tab button [11:05] is there anything somewhere that i can read about how to join directories in command line? [11:05] If you try going to kpackagekit and search rar and scroll down you will see archiver for .rar files [11:05] Important note: normally "unrar x" is better than "unrar e". [11:05] Don't use "unrar e" unless you know the difference. [11:06] to: only diff is the extracted path [11:07] Bucky: I'm sorry it may be the package Unarchiver [11:08] !info unarchiver [11:08] Package unarchiver does not exist in lucid [11:09] ubottu I have it installed [11:09] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [11:09] lol xD [11:09] heh [11:10] if unrar gets installed ark will use it [11:10] moetunes thats right [11:10] I had to learn that the hard way [11:22] Can somebody please send my thanks to eagles0513875 when he (or she?) returns? [11:24] colomar: MemoServ can. /msg MemoServ help === SwissTorExit is now known as starslights [11:30] msg MemoServ send eagles0513875 thank you for your help. I hope I can get scurmworks to work without changing too much in my system. [11:30] arg sorry [11:31] * colomar is stupid [11:31] Twey: Thanks for the tip with MemoServ, I didn't know that. [11:31] Bye all, gotta get back to work [11:41] Hi, what is the right way(tm) to mount a network drive? So far I put it in the fstab, and I had an initscript mountall. This does not work anymore... [11:43] it complains at bootup that it can not mount the filesystem. [11:46] ahox: you need to look at nfs [11:46] !nfs [11:46] nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. [11:53] that's what I did using the static mount method. Problem is that at boottime the network is not ready yet and hence bails out with an error [11:56] moetunes: and I am using sshfs and not nfs === vistakiller1 is now known as vistakiller === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [11:57] ahox: well I don't know about that [12:13] have kubuntu 9.10 with kde 4.3.5. KDE 4.4.1 is still stable (isn't it?) where can i esyly get this kde-version, and may there problems for updating? === aperson is now known as hightlazard [12:15] rethus: 4.4.3 is latest stable, but apparently 4.4.2 is latest available for Karmic currently, see http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4.2 [12:16] Tm_T: so i only add it to the package-manager and do an upgrade [12:16] thanks [12:16] yes [12:17] but is it such easy? or may i break my kde with this upgrade? [12:17] updatemanger tell about 87 updates and 67 blocked updates [12:18] so i better use synaptic for upgrading? [12:19] rethus: perhaps, or apt-get === milda_ is now known as Kaco === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [12:35] Hi all. I need help with a wired networking issue. After testing suspend (unsuccessfully) I'm unable to restart my wired connection (eth0). old "ifup" commands refer me to Upstart, but doesn't seem to help. Any tips on starting networking? [12:36] Hello people I need help kate does not wanna open the .js files in 10.04 I dont know why, I click edid with grease monkey, I selected kate and it says and error is happening: It cannot interpret the .js when in 9.10 It could do with the same scrip === ubuntu is now known as confuzzed [12:38] hey! I've just installed kubuntu 10.04 but I'm having trouble with mysql. I cant start/stop/reinstall it. I had the exact same problem with ubuntu 10.04 which is why I reinstalled. any suggestions? [12:42] hi [12:42] I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 a few days ago [12:43] I'm new to the Ubuntu platform [12:43] However, I am having issues with sound on Skype [12:43] My PC is a Dell Inspiron 1545 [12:43] I would be happy to get suggestions on how to fix the sound problem [12:44] HI ALL [12:44] When I use the Skype Test Call service [12:44] I am able to hear the voice of Echo (the skype system), but not my own voice [12:44] Any suggestions please? [12:47] chizaram - does your microphone work in other applications? Are the channels unmuted in the sound mixer? Is hardware plugged in correctly? [12:48] hi [12:48] I'm using the inbuilt microphone of the laptop [12:49] I did a search on Google and saw some things on PulseAudio, ALSA, etc [12:49] But I'm not sure how that helps [12:50] When I go to System/Preferences/Sound [12:50] The five tabs available are: Sound Effects, Hardware, Input, Output, Applications [12:51] It doesn't give me the option to set PulseAudio as was mentioned in some of the searches [12:51] Do you know what could be the issue? [12:52] 1) open the sound mixer and make sure that your microphone is not muted and that levels are up [12:52] ok [12:52] 2) test microphone using another software program (not skype) - if this works, then problem is just skype related [12:52] ok [12:53] How do I get to the Sound Mixer? [12:53] You are running Kubuntu or Ubuntu? [12:54] Ubuntu [13:03] hi [13:03] may I seek help here regarding ktorrent? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [13:11] hi all, im having a strange problem with amarok (2.2.0) . Is not playing a song after another automatically, i have to press play or double clic each time a song ends to play another one ... Someone is having the same incidence? [13:16] Всем привет! русскоязычные есть кто может помочь с убунту? дрова поставить не могу [13:17] I am on schedule! send messages! [13:17] :D === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [13:18] Anyone need help === ubuntu___ is now known as eagles0513875 [13:18] :( видимо нет [13:18] !ru | stas_ [13:18] stas_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [13:19] co [13:19] ? [13:19] senk [13:19] Please use english when chatting in the IRC channels [13:19] to po rusku do mnie [13:19] ?? [13:19] :D [13:19] ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [13:19] ha? [13:19] hi, just started kde [13:19] ?? :) [13:19] yes [13:19] :D [13:19] why does amarok not play last.fm? [13:19] jayp1 you need help with KDE or kubuntu [13:20] jayp1,I dont know [13:20] yes. amarok say I need to pay [13:20] yes [13:20] :D [13:20] rythymbox plays ok [13:21] rythymbox no! [13:21] gnome no !! [13:21] anyone else have this problem? [13:21] cya [13:21] please tell me what is going on so i can understand [13:21] just try to play a last.fm radio [13:22] and get a message saying [13:22] dude [13:22] is this a problem with kubuntu,ubuntu or edubuntu [13:22] yes [13:22] what os [13:22] lucid [13:23] kubuntu [13:23] i know the version but your running kubuntu [13:23] kk [13:23] right [13:23] can you tell me what is going on CLEARLY so i understand [13:24] Jobob: whats your issue [13:24] ok. on amarok i click internet>last.fm [13:24] ok and whats the error your getting jayp1 [13:24] eagle i am helping [13:24] and the radio channels give me a message saying [13:24] ... [13:24] Jobob: we all can help [13:24] i know... [13:25] jayp1: whats the message [13:25] i prefer on my own though [13:25] i ask other people when i need help [13:25] "To listen to this stream you need to be a paying ...." [13:25] ok Jobob ill back off [13:26] just dont say it like that. [13:26] i think your being rude to me... [13:26] how about you stop bickering [13:26] well im sry [13:26] * eagles0513875 goes back to swearing at lucid and why it wont install [13:26] jayp1... what? [13:26] lol [13:26] eagle... what? [13:27] Jobob: installation fails for me im on a live usb [13:27] what message comes up [13:27] Jobob: do you want me to ask it again? [13:27] right i will do both at same time [13:27] Jobob: the failure message has something to do with input/output [13:27] what does it say [13:27] Jobob: To listen to this stream you need to be a paying ...." [13:28] is what amarok says [13:28] Jobob: its saying it cant read the cd/dvd whats strange is im using a live usb [13:28] ??? interesting. please ask kubuntu about that problem jayp1 [13:29] !!!I am now offline. Please check back later!!! [13:29] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [13:29] how do you mean ask Kubuntu? [13:29] jayp1: just ask in the channel he means [13:29] Jobob: no idea on my issue [13:29] is this not the channel? [13:29] apachelogger: do you mind if i pm you as i think i might have found a show stopping issue here with the installer [13:29] jayp1: ya it is [13:30] eagles0513875: why not write it here? [13:30] apachelogger: ok [13:30] my issue is this im trying to do a clean install of lucid 64bit and it keeps failing on me at a certain point after formatting when ti comes to installing the packages etc [13:30] i have tried the alternate etc [13:31] im not sure if this is a problem with ubiquity ext4 or the size of the hard drive im trying to install on which is 2tb [13:31] any idea [13:31] ideas [13:31] eagles0513875: please define what you mean by failing [13:31] and its getting quite frustrating as its not only with the live cd but alternate as well [13:32] i get errno5 popping up saying input/output failure then mentions the cd drive and cleaning the lense and what not [13:32] let me run the installer again and ill get you the exact error [13:34] Riddell: ^ [13:35] also checksums match so thats not the issue [13:35] eagles0513875: ubuntu-bug ubiquity I'd say === effie_jayx_ is now known as keffie_jayx [13:35] apachelogger: even the link that allows you to update ubiquity prior to installation has the same issue after updating [13:36] * apachelogger couldn imagine why an IO error should occur for any other reason than broken media though [13:36] apachelogger: O_O [13:36] the usb is a few months old [13:36] the other one is older and i was thinking that was the problem [13:37] maybe the usb hub/controller is messing things up, or maybe the driver for same [13:37] eagles0513875: can you install from an actual cd? [13:37] apachelogger: same issue [13:37] maybe there is a general IO problem in the kernel *shrug* [13:38] im running out of places to turn [13:38] was about to email the dev mailing list [13:39] eagles0513875: report a bug [13:39] against what though [13:42] apachelogger: at one point i did get it installed but programs were crashign left right and center and a backtrace showed it was python2.6 a shared object of it [13:42] eagles0513875: maybe you should try with a smaller partition size :P [13:42] !pste === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [13:42] !paste [13:42] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [13:43] * apachelogger finds 2 tib a bit too large for sensible usage anyway [13:43] for installing a OS at least [13:43] i know but im planning on using this to host a few things so i need the space [13:44] and its the only drive right now in this machine [13:44] well [13:44] that is still not the way to do it [13:44] apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/jn5wqVYJ <--- the error i get during installation [13:44] youd have the OS on a seperate partition and the data stoarge another one [13:44] how much for the os 500gb for os and 1.5tb for the rest [13:44] say you create a web server you would at least have / and /var/www be different partitoins [13:45] ya [13:45] that said /home will probably be seperate too [13:45] etc. etc. [13:45] eagles0513875: OS? 20 GiB [13:45] maybe 30 [13:45] but I doubt you will get to scratch 20 even [13:45] * apachelogger is living perfectly happy with 20 [13:46] * eagles0513875 wonders if the same issue will occur with partitioning the drive [13:46] eagles0513875: just partition a / of size 20 and nothing else [13:46] if installation works then at least we know that the partiton size is at fault [13:46] Hey, some of my apps have absolutely GIANT fonts - how can I stop that? [13:47] display settings are not saved between reboots, why? [13:47] apachelogger: what on earth is biosgrub? [13:47] hello, i have sound issues since 10.04; i have no sound on amarok even though speaker-test gives output [13:49] otswim: have you checked kmix to make sure nothing is muted [13:51] I am ready for questions! send now! [13:52] lol Jobob getting help from a dev [13:52] huh? [13:52] no [13:52] i was having lunch [13:53] oh well [13:53] Jobob: i am [13:53] i may go and come back after a while at any time [13:56] eagles0513875: yes; but i put pulseaudio first in 'multimedia' system settings instead of HDA intel and now it's ok [13:56] has eagles ignored me [13:57] or i ignored him [13:57] cos i didnt === ubuntu is now known as eagles0513875 [13:59] apachelogger: are there daily snapshots of lucid? [13:59] eagle where u go [13:59] Jobob: super nasty lock up during installation took me to the splash screen and froze [13:59] !u | Jobob [13:59] Jobob: U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' or 'Ur' are words in the English language. Nor are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'Ne1' or 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information. [13:59] oh [14:00] ubottu your not bot are you [14:00] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [14:00] Jobob, /msg ubottu [14:01] omg he is a bot [14:01] Jobob, did you have a support question? [14:01] no i help [14:02] Jobob, spamming is not help [14:02] not needing help i give support [14:02] ignore bazhang [14:02] * eagles0513875 waits for the punishment [14:02] ignore:bazhang [14:02] !ot | Jobob [14:02] Jobob: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [14:04] I can't report crashes, when I click the confirm button it just reports an unknown (to it) error and stands still [14:05] miniBill: to report bugs go to launchpad [14:05] !lp | miniBill [14:05] miniBill: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ [14:06] ok. anyway, I'm gonna report an horde of bugs XD [14:06] be prepared [14:06] ubottu dosnt know much [14:06] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [14:06] why isn't kdevelop included in lynx? how can I get it? [14:07] ubottu: dont worry, we know that [14:07] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [14:07] .... perhaps i should remove him as bot [14:07] Jobob, stop that === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [14:07] ur not admin or bot or dev so get lost [14:07] !ops | Jobob trolling [14:07] Jobob trolling: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, apachelogger, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, or txwikinger [14:07] I hate lost [14:08] ?channel emergency? [14:08] so I wont get it [14:08] !kdevelop | miniBill [14:08] * eagles0513875 waves good by to Jobob [14:08] Jobob: Please take the offtopic comments elsewhere. [14:09] eagle why did you do tha [14:09] t [14:09] eagles0513875: ? [14:09] miniBill: kdevelop is in the repos in its in backports repo the new 4.4 version of kdevelop [14:10] what does this channel emergency thing do... [14:10] anyone know how to use the xdvdshrink gui? [14:10] Jobob: brings the ops in here now either join kubuntu-offtopic or stop deraailing this channel as a support channel please [14:10] ty Pici [14:10] eagles0513875: luvja [14:10] miniBill: ok [14:10] huh [14:10] * eagles0513875 away [14:11] oh [14:11] ok [14:11] !ot | Jobob [14:11] Jobob: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [14:11] ubottu what [14:11] I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [14:12] anyone need help here [14:12] Jobob: If people need help, they will ask. This channel is not for general chatter. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic for that. [14:13] how can I distinguish wheter a packet comes from "normal" or "backport" repo in aptitude? [14:13] anyone know how Open Source software projects are started [14:13] hi. got a plasmoid that shows me the wrong comic! [14:13] it shows le petit prince instead of xkcd ! [14:13] Bucky: what does wrong mean? [14:13] Martiini: what's the question? [14:13] miniBill: synaptic shows origin of packets [14:14] Martiini: ty :) [14:14] miniBill: I'm not sure if aptitude has an option to do that, but apt-cache policy packagename will [14:14] answer above [14:14] I wanna see open source CAD project .. dont understand why there isnt one [14:14] qcad ? [14:14] nah [14:14] Bucky: is this plasmoid included in kubuntu, or did you get it from the internet? [14:14] Martiini: why? [14:16] miniBill: the one included [14:17] lol, didnt notice ubuntu irc server was on freenode, and auto-ghosted myself XDXDXD [14:17] I have an idea ... of .. like .. CAD environment .. professional & geared towards cooperation (Autocad, Sketchup, Solidworks etc). There are many companies that provide CAD software for linux ... but there should be one to conquer all [14:17] Martiini: you can either improve an existing one or create a new one :) [14:18] In case CAD project is created ... why wont they cooperate for it ... [14:18] qcad is 2D .. not really like Autocad .. etc etc [14:19] that's because it needs more love XD but I think we're going OT [14:20] miniBill: no hope with the comic? [14:21] sry [14:21] didnt get your answer: where did you get the plasmoid from? [14:22] was the one given with kubuntu; the answer was just 2 lines under your question! [14:23] James May from Top Gear said "all great leaps in human progress occur for war effort" .. people should be made to think some software is really good for their ends .. [14:24] Bucky: can't find it. how it's named? [14:24] Martiini: cant follow ya [14:26] miniBill: add object>graphics> comic stripe (don't know if is exactly like this, mine is not in english..) [14:27] hi, akonadi issues, kmail starts okay and gets my mail then I get an error about can't lock innodb something and notice that a 2nd mysqld-akonadi process has started and that's what causes the lock error, because the first one already has it open... anyone else notice this and/or have a solution? [14:27] Bucky: found it, and it works for me. tried reconfiguring it? === jefferson_ is now known as jefferson__ [14:28] miniBill: don't know how to do. kubuntu newbie [14:28] help...when I click on my knetworkmanager icon it says "Network Management disabled" [14:29] there's a folder to delete? [14:29] m_tadeu: try right mouse button on it and see if you can configure it [14:30] Bucky: uh, I dunno the widget internals, but have you tried rightclicking and trying a different webcomick? [14:32] markc: only shows up that pop-up...saying that message... [14:33] m_tadeu, maybe try reinstalling anything to do with network manager [14:34] i try to enable the google translator widget.. but.. it just loads anything.. but can't use it.. any idea? status: unable to load widget, no network connection.. [14:34] so.. if i have no network connection.. how can i post here? :) ;) [14:35] I've got your same error o_O just noticed [14:37] Algum brasileiro ou brasileira? [14:37] miniBill: were you referring to me? [14:38] !br [14:38] Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [14:38] ffdf [14:38] markc: tried to reinstall the network-manager and network-manager-kde...rebooted but no luck [14:39] so, no one has any akonadi/kmail porblems here? ;-) [14:39] miniBill: you mean what i'm wrote.. or something other? [14:39] I can see that both processes are running [14:40] m_tadeu, unfortunately I don't have mine installed either, I just use the low level /etc/network/interfaces ifupdown system [14:40] markc: that's how I manages to connect right now....but it's useful on my laptop [14:41] m_tadeu, I could help you with that but it's not solving your main problem [14:41] m_tadeu, ah right :) [14:41] markc: I do, but different ones [14:41] noaXess: what you wrote [14:42] ok.. what can there be the problem? why does it load? [14:42] Hey anyone have an checked and working idea for building deb package from application sources? [14:42] m_tadeu: tried using wicd? I personally prefer it over network-manager [14:42] noaXess: no clue :) [14:42] speedvin: checkinstall ? [14:42] btw markc, my akonadi is giving me an error that "Nepomuk service is not registered in DBUS" [14:42] miniBill: let me check === Nicotra is now known as etreus [14:43] miniBill: so you've got my same issue? [14:43] Bucky: not as you, but as noaXess [14:43] miniBill: I readed about it but some peapole say's that it's an old method and does not include deps in deb package [14:43] Bucky: my webcomic reader works like a charm [14:43] m_tadeu, yeah, I've had that one too... but my main error is the can't access a lockfile... because there are 2 mysql processes running [14:43] miniBill: ah, ok [14:43] complicated.. talking to more then one ;) [14:44] speedvin: you can specify deps during build if you want. imho checkinstall is good for small/fast/temporary solutions [14:44] how do i delete a comic? [14:44] m_tadeu> but does your kmail work anyway? [14:44] noaXess: definatively [14:44] ;).. [14:44] Bucky: cant you do that in the configuration screen for the widget? [14:44] miniBill: I will try that method but makepkg (Arch) is definitly easier... [14:44] wanna try to do the main resolution method with pcs: switch off and on [14:45] but anyway thanks [14:45] ;-) [14:45] speedvin> yay! for arch :) [14:45] :D [14:46] speaking of which, seeing I can't use kmail on lucid I'll reboot back to my archlinux partition === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [14:47] I'm gonna try arch one day or another [14:47] Arch is really nice,easy and simple [14:48] i dont need an easy distro. i need an updated, with lots of packages, possibly supported, and not broken one [14:48] and kubuntu fits nicely [14:48] you are right === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [14:49] My dream is to have kubuntu with rc init scripts ,clean and bleeding edge [14:50] but anyway Kubuntu is nice now too. === hightlazard is now known as aperson [14:54] hi guys my mouse and touchpad stopped clicking after last nights update. it's moving around but just not selecting and clicking except the taskbar. isn't it weird [14:54] electroweak: yeah, it is :) have you tried using a different mouse/protocol, or using vnc? [14:55] I just run the update last night and shutdown when I started the notebook today this happened. [14:56] I can perform actions on the task bar left and right click is OK but I can't click on the icons in the K menu [14:57] and what about other apps? are they working ok? [14:57] miniBill: do you live in UK ? [14:57] No I can't use the mouse pointer in anyway just moving around [14:57] No I live in Turkey [14:58] opps sorry didn't read that :) [14:58] Martiini: finger me :) Italy, anyway [14:59] electroweak: so, you can use it on the taskbar only? [14:59] if I right click to an item on the task bar I am able to use the mouse in that window until I try to click somewhere else [15:00] I see. did you try using e.g. fluxbox to see wheter its an X, application or KDE issue? === petr_ is now known as assential [15:01] no I didn't try anything else I just wanted to get an idea from you guys. let me try that and I will be back shortly :) [15:01] HI ALL [15:01] how to install drivers for my EPSON PRINTER? [15:02] epson stylus cx [15:03] "sudo apt-get install epson" ???? [15:03] no such packet exists on my system o_O [15:04] miniBill meeeeen [15:04] assential: ??? [15:04] miniBill get out --- I am askinhg! [15:04] miniBill I was first [15:04] assential: sorry? [15:04] miniBill wait wheile I do not be successifyed === Lanta is now known as Lantizia [15:05] miniBill sucesfued [15:06] HOW TO INSTALL PRINTER DRIVERS?????????? [15:06] what is a good music manager besides amarok for KDE? [15:06] !ops | assential trolling [15:06] assential trolling: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, apachelogger, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, or txwikinger [15:06] bawww bitch boys [15:07] yes miniBill [15:07] quite the trolling day today [15:07] apachelogger: agreed [15:08] and my connection is working like organic smelly substance [15:20] which instant messenger supporting msn would you recommend me? [15:20] otswim: Kopete [15:21] Tm_T: i have problems on kopete so i'm trying to find another one [15:22] what problems? [15:22] otswim: amsn, pidgin, emesene. but imho kopete is the best [15:22] "hello, sometimes the enter button doesn't work to send message and i have to bind it to ctrl+enter (and sometimes it does); can someone help please? i'm on kopete 1.0.0 kde 4.4.2 kubuntu 10.04" [15:23] I have seen this before [15:23] hi poeple... short question about the new 10.04: I got some boot problems.. it always hangs after the plymouth boot splash... I can restart without problems with ctrl-alt-del but I always have to restart 2 times in order to finally get into my desktop... any idea? [15:24] howlymowly: tried checking the logs/looking at the console? [15:24] miniBill: which one should I look at :)? [15:25] when it hangs, can you switch to the text console? or, have you tried temporary deleting the splash parameter? [15:26] nope.. I can not swtich to the console .. al that works is a restart with ctrl-alt-del... [15:26] Tm_T: you've seen the problem but not the solution? :D [15:26] ctrl-alt f* does nothing... miniBill [15:26] howlymowly: so, try deleting the splash parameter from kernel boot line, and check the messages [15:26] kk... I'll be right back :) [15:27] What do you prefer chinstall or dpkg-buildpackage [15:27] ? [15:28] speedvin: i personally only used the former [15:30] former? you mean dpkg-buildpackage? [15:30] when issuing hibernation in 10.04 it hangs, and when having to shut down manuly and restart all network interfaces disappears and anyone els had this problem? [15:30] speedvin: I mean checkinstall [15:30] ok [15:30] and it's better? [15:31] smokealot: does it do it when you put it into standby? [15:31] speedvin: dunno :) [15:31] heh [15:32] anyone know of PPA for KDE SC 4.4.3 update? [15:35] bawww: I [15:39] apachelogger: tried partitions on the drive and still failed [15:44] ///j kubuntu-offtopic [15:48] bawww: kubuntu updates PPA will have this [15:49] bawww: ill get url... [15:50] bawww: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa [15:51] what does 4.4.3 brings better than 4.4.2? [15:52] thank you rgreening!!! [15:52] hi all ... trying to get my quickcam to work with kubuntu installed cheese and it still does not work ... any ideas? [15:52] any error messages? [15:53] minibill: nope [15:53] minibill: doesn't find the cam but dmesg indicates it's there [15:54] miniBill: here's the change log for KDE SC 4.4.3: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_4_2to4_4_3.php [15:54] hi [15:55] minibill: sorry thought you were asking me [15:55] bawww, is 4.4.3 going to be for the next distro or just slightly behind and is for lucid? [15:56] np bawww [15:57] zus: i guess since it's s recent release they probably didn't want to include it in an LTS release [15:59] hiyas [15:59] bawww, is this stable? or should i stick with 4.4.2 for a little bit longer? [16:02] zus: downloading it right now [16:02] zus: it should be pretty safe to update to [16:03] bawww, :) let me know [16:04] how can i revert firefox back to google search engine? it BACK on yahoo?!?! again! [16:05] but ftp service on ppa.launchpad.net is working? dput say Connection failed ... [16:05] brb [16:06] miniBill: it did the same thing but it says over the network icon network device unmanaged [16:06] zus: browse to "about:config" in Firefox, Filter for browser.search.order [16:08] i found 2 entries goolge is over the yahoo one [16:09] DarthFrog, search,order.1 google search.order.2 yahoo..... can i delete or remove the yahoo entirely? i dont care to use thier search engine unless i go to thier page on purpose [16:10] zus: Go for it. [16:10] DarthFrog, ...how to safely remove it [16:13] zus: Toggle the entry to blank. [16:15] DarthFrog, thank you, but now i have no idea whats going on here, i tried another search and it's on google. [16:17] Hello all... anyone have expertise with keyboard layouts? I've got a minor conflict between KDE and a Gtk program... [16:18] zus: Isn't that what you want? [16:21] DarthFrog, yeah, since using ubuntu/kubuntu i've googled, never have i seen the yahoo page with the comcast banner.... it was doing it every search last week but ive purged and removed FF and reinstalled it, that seemed to have fixed the problem however after 3 days of using the new install this was the only page thus far... [16:22] im just particular i guess, if i wanna use yahoo, ill navigate to thier page and search from there. [16:25] the new kubuntu is SLOW [16:25] I've had to drop to openbox === ubuntu is now known as eagles0513875 [16:35] hi guys, does any one know how to assign a global shortcut to "OLD" application menu in kde? === ep is now known as Guest4506 === jefferson is now known as jefferson__ === skizorager is now known as skizorager3 [16:58] hi there === skizorager3 is now known as skizorager === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:20] back [17:21] zus: everything seems to be working fine with the KDE SC 4.4.3 upgrade. [17:22] hey [17:22] bawww, sweet, whats does the sc mean [17:23] software compilation === skizorager_ is now known as Skizorager [17:23] whats the correct syntax for the time command? when i execute "time bash script.sh" it works but no addtitional info is shown....i dont know how to implement those % options [17:24] when i execute "time %M bash script.sh" it gives me an error [17:25] just another beauiful day on #kubuntu! [17:25] bawww, ok, where do i download it? [17:25] hello dolomite it is a beautiful day [17:26] just use this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa [17:27] zus: in command line type: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa [17:27] bawww, brb,.. is that a site or the ppa i load into kpackagemanager? [17:27] its "add-apt-repository" not "apt-add-repository" [17:27] then do: sudo aptitude update && sudo safe-upgrade [17:27] Pici: thanks for the correction [17:28] Pici: I think both ways work === mika__ is now known as shlo [17:29] bawww: hmm. looks like you might be right. I don't think that was the case in Karmic though. [17:30] Pici: they shouldn't made it something shorter and easier to remember add-repo or add-ppa [17:31] yeah that's true, i don't remember both options on karmic === mika__ is now known as shlo === marthe is now known as tamarthe [17:31] that's what alias is for bawww [17:32] dolomite: yes, of course [17:32] * dolomite is leaving the computer to make some breakfast. [17:33] but that would've been better from get go [17:33] test [17:42] does anyone have a work around for the flash clicking issues on lucid? [17:43] The flash clicking issues? [17:43] it seems to be affecting the 64 and 32 bit version [17:43] you can't left click on adobe flash videos [17:43] like clicking the play/pause button on youtube === 77CAAMK86 is now known as ||apriori|| [17:44] Hey all [17:45] I am totally able to do that, bawww. What browser are you using? [17:45] firefox [17:46] Network management is disabled. How do I enable it lol [17:46] bawww: try using Alt-Tab to switch to another window and back, and clicking again? that usually fixes it for me [17:46] Are you a part of the html5 beta? I have had HTML5-Youtube issues on XP, I am not sure if they are OS specific [17:47] hagabaka: : that worked, but do i have to keep doing that? [17:47] aeonoris: nope, just kubuntu regular youtube user [17:47] it usually starts happening when I close another window [17:47] How do I enable knetworkmanager [17:47] I don't know what's causing it... [17:47] hagabaka: are you using the firegesture extension? [17:48] bawww: You could try turning //on// html5, perhaps that would help? http://www.youtube.com/html5 is the beta [17:48] nope, I'm not using firefox [17:48] I think it's probably related to the flash plugin or XEmbed [17:48] Anyone?????! [17:49] !question [17:49] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [17:49] and yeah, I use html5 on youtube. it still happens for other flash stuff though [17:49] bawww, cant i add it in the gui? i dont think im doing it in the terminal correctly [17:49] Enabling nework management?? Am I muted here? === martelloni is now known as kurama [17:51] SaintlySacrfice: do you have network-manager-kde installed? [17:51] If that's Knetwork Manager then yes? [17:52] zus: yes you can, but it's easier with the command line because it imports the keys also [17:52] Hi everyone. I've recently installed Kubuntu 10.04. In the past I've always been able to use "CTRL+" to move left/right by whole words at the konsole/bash prompt. For some reason this doesnt work in 10.0.4. Any ideas what this effect is caleld or how to get it working? [17:52] My wifi worked yesterday till I closed the laptop and it shut down [17:53] now when i hit ctrl+arrow i get ;5C or ;5D printed [17:53] Hagabaka any ideas? [17:54] bawww, haha my spelling is atrocious, and thats why i wasnt getting it - ok now update and upgrade? [17:55] yeah [17:55] SaintlySacrfice: what about the package network-manager? [17:55] what you see is probably just the UI, it says "disabled" if the package is not installed [17:55] Looking [17:55] zus: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade [17:56] hmmm [17:56] bawww, i didint type safe-upgrade [17:56] I have the kde one. [17:56] but I don't have it installed myself, it was rewriting my resolf.conf so I didn't have DNS servers on start up each time [17:57] All of this worked yesterday. [17:57] zus: upgrade is fine also [17:58] Somehow my comp goin to sleep disable management [17:58] phew [17:59] bawww, where do i report bugs/crashes for kde4.4.3? [17:59] When I click on network manager, the box just closes and the manager never pops up [17:59] ive got a serious problem.. i can get my desktop to show up only as root.. when i try to log on with my user account, it fails [18:00] should i just dump all my config files into a backup folder and try to log in again? [18:01] When I tab the same program together, is there a way to make them only have one entry on the task bar? For example, I am using Skype and have made all of the windows tabbed with each other via middleclick+drag. However, they still show up as seperate entries on the task bar. I can use taskbar grouping to put them together, but then when I click on it it still requires I click on a specific one until the window will open. [18:01] before the window will open* [18:02] aeonoris: Norrath [18:02] zus: follow this guide: http://techbase.kde.org/User:DarioAndres/Basic_Guide_about_Crash_Reporting [18:03] zus: if it's a specific bug you know about https://bugs.kde.org/ [18:03] zus: remember to clear your ~/.kde folder and remove the ~/.kderc after you upgrade to 4.4.3. also note it will delete your kde settings [18:04] is the 4.4.3 upgrade working now? [18:04] yes [18:04] +1 [18:04] Gerry so stuck [18:04] working smoothly [18:05] sweet [18:05] My driver for wifi is broadcon sta, and it's active. [18:06] Somebody help me :( [18:06] SaintlySacrfice: whats your problem? [18:06] can i just rename the ~/.kderc in case i need it? and by clear the ~/.kde folder you mean what excatly ... this is new to me yet [18:06] James147: When I click on network manager, the box just closes and the manager never pops up [18:06] zus: renaming it would be better [18:06] James147 network management disabled === peter_ is now known as Guest22812 [18:07] * vince just saved a copy/paste for SaintlySacrfice [18:07] zus: renaming both the folder ~/.kde and the file ~/.kderc [18:07] Vince: I love you :D [18:07] zus: also log out and log back in to see the changes taking effect [18:07] SaintlySacrfice: How did that happen...any unusual behaviour ? [18:07] cause it happened to me a few weeks ago, couldn't find a way to fix the problem === jtheuer__ is now known as jtheuer [18:08] bawww, the entire .kde folder? im in there now and i dont see ~/.kderc [18:08] Vince I closed my laptop last night, something I haven't done since the new boot. [18:08] hey anyone know how to run gcc-snapshot? [18:08] yes, rename that to ~/.kde-old or something [18:08] after my upgrade to 10.04 LTS everything tends to crash [18:09] Maybe unistall the manager and reinstall? [18:09] SaintlySacrfice: Does it say "network manager disabled" when you click on the tray icon ? [18:09] zus: you don't have to have to do it, but it better to do it when doing a new upgrade [18:09] Vince yes [18:09] dolphin , plasma desktop openoffice [18:09] zus: that way it doesn't clash with the new kde settings [18:09] That sh!t happened to me, I tried to uninstall/reinstall the network manager, didn't work...:/ [18:09] bawww, do it now while its still working in the terminal or wait [18:09] I'm still looking for a solution in case that happens again [18:10] where is the problem and how can i stop that? [18:10] Vince then what did you do to get it working now? [18:10] zus: do it after you finished the upgrading [18:10] Manyfold: did the upgrade go smoothly? no errors? [18:10] SaintlySacrfice: Clean install :/ [18:10] dolomite: yes [18:10] Crap [18:10] has anyone know how to run gcc-snapshot? [18:10] Manyfold: your install sounds pretty broken. is a fresh install out of the question? [18:11] SaintlySacrfice: did you upgrade to 10.04? [18:11] dolomite: i would loose my home directory [18:11] dolomite: where are crashes in kde applications logged? [18:11] Manyfold: I'm assuming it's on the same partit ion as root? do you have any way to back up? [18:12] Vince I'm tryin somethin.. [18:12] dolomite: not really my hd is full [18:13] Manyfold: KDE writes its errors out in ~/.xsession-errors [18:13] bawww, as far as kde settings what exactly would that be? the widgets and stuff? my desktop is still default from installing off the live cd [18:13] Manyfold: just so you know, the installer dosent seem to wipe /home if you chose not to format the drive its located on (but there is always a potential for data loss so backups should be taken)... at elast when i tryed it in a vm [18:15] James147: I'm getting the impression that Manyfold doesn't have a separate /home partition [18:16] ok i am now in .xsessionerrors and will try to look up the relavant crashes [18:16] dolomite: dont think it matters, if you dont choose to format / then only the system folders are cleared (/home is left) [18:16] dolomite: but i only quickly tested that on a vm once ^^ [18:16] James147: if it's true, that's an amazing feat [18:17] James147: and I was here for that test, haha [18:17] dolomite: :D [18:17] dolomite: Your nickname sounds like Sodomite to me haha [18:17] dolomite: will try it again now, at least to confrim it [18:18] vince: that's a stretch, man. I'm just a CaCO3 rich mineral. [18:18] Is there a way to have KDE open the entire group of grouped windows when I click on a window group, instead of opening a list that has me click on a specific window? [18:18] James147: in the name of science, yes! [18:18] dolomite: haha [18:18] bawww, ok install seems to be finish- so if i rename the .kde itll make a new one when i reboot? [18:18] well i'm just a pycho-killer [18:18] zus: yes [18:18] vince: vaughn? [18:19] aeonoris: have you looked at the taskbar settings regarding app grouping? [18:19] wish me luck- brb [18:19] zus: rename then boot [18:19] * dolomite is stepping away for 5 minutes [18:19] dolomite: Yeah, none of them appear to remove the list thing [18:20] zus: almost everything in /home/USER will be recreated if needed on login :) [18:20] dolomite: Well, my full nickname is vince_bateman [18:20] James147, thanks [18:24] Hi [18:24] aeonoris: I'm not sure. it could help to do some googling [18:24] vince: creepy [18:24] hi vuxi [18:26] hello [18:26] How can I add a vcf file (with different contacts in it) to Kontact/Akonadi [18:26] dolomite: haha [18:27] dolomite: Yeah, I tried googling but I guess I just can't phrase it right or something, since I'm only getting unrelated results [18:28] vuxi: isn't that the same thing as a vcard? [18:29] first thing i noticed,.... kwallet is asking me for everything now...not before after a fresh install [18:29] I did it this way. The result is that i get the E-mail addresses and so on in the addresbook but for example the birthday calender does not notice the data [18:30] when I play a swf in Firefox (for example a Youtube) then I play sound in my Amarok, there is no sound. I must kill or quit Firefox and reload Amarok if I want play my music! [18:30] dolomite: the vcf is stored in the home dir an addad via the Akonadi options [18:31] vuxi: is vcf the same as vcard? [18:31] dolomite: I dont know [18:31] dolomite: sure [18:32] thanks floown. so vuxi: kontact won't take your VCF? [18:32] lets say: only parts of it [18:33] (someone can help me for my sound problem please?) [18:33] in the addresbook I have no problems [18:33] floown: state your question plese [18:33] dolomite: when I play a swf in Firefox (for example a Youtube) then I play sound in my Amarok, there is no sound. I must kill or quit Firefox and reload Amarok if I want play my music! [18:33] vuxi: so you can import the vcf with no problems. where do the problems arise? [18:33] Alright Vince you still here [18:34] floown: sounds fun! have you checked your default devices in system settings [18:34] James147, you here? [18:34] SaintlySacrfice: I am [18:34] Alright I figured this out [18:35] James147 is testing in the name of science! [18:35] What I need is this.... [18:35] http://osdir.com/ml/debian-bugs-dist/2010-01/msg07864.html [18:35] there are birthday dates stored in this file. And there is a function in the calender that adds a birthday calender (that should itself look the dates up in the addressbook). And the last one doesn´t work [18:35] dolomite: yes I have, the configuration (in multimedia) is the same for all entries [18:35] But I need you to tell me how to run the commands listed there. [18:35] Can you do tht? [18:36] vuxi: so if you manually look at the contacts, are the birthdays there? or did they not even get imported? [18:36] yes all the dates are there [18:36] SaintlySacrfice: ok [18:36] Ty! [18:37] floown: what is the sound setup in amarok? [18:37] vuxi: I'm not familiar with this calendar; is it a component of kontact? [18:37] * James147 is reading the above link [18:37] SaintlySacrfice: ok, first open up a terminal (konsole will do) [18:38] Its the calendar component of Kontact ( I`m using a german system. Dont know how its called in the english version) [18:38] dolomite: cool, it works now, I have reinstall pulseaudio then a new option appear in my multimedia configuration [18:38] and it worked perfectly the week ago (before updating to 10.04) [18:38] houra [18:39] James147 open [18:39] floown: good to hear it; sound problems are very difficult to fix [18:39] SaintlySacrfice: then type into it this command to stop networkmanager "sudo service network-manager stop" (all commands without quotes :) === root is now known as Guest97608 [18:41] James147 alright network manager disabled [18:41] SaintlySacrfice: if that works then type this next one (be careful with this one as it will premintly delete a file) "sudo rm /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state" (Note: you can use to auto complete paths and commands) [18:42] vuxi: you upgraded to 10.04? I might recommend saving that vcf file and removing/purging kontact and reinstalling [18:43] SaintlySacrfice: and finaly type this one to restart network amanger "sudo service network-manager restart" (Note: bash keeps a history which you can access with the up arrow key, ussful in this case as you can edit the first command to save on typing :) ) [18:44] SaintlySacrfice: Yes I am [18:44] Any luck? [18:44] SaintlySacrfice: I have had knetworkmanager crash before when trying to stop network-manager, if it has just run it again after you have finished the commands above (alt+f2 > type: knetworkmanager) [18:45] dolomite: I did not "update" the system. I reinstalled everything because of other problems. I only kept the vcf and the kmail dir with my mails [18:45] thanks for the kde 4.4.3 help [18:46] i found it [18:46] * James147 wonders why he dosent ahve 4.4.3 yet and goes to find out [18:46] i've just booted to the boot menu on the 64 bit livecd. can i just boot to an terminal session without loading xserver? [18:47] Vince it worked! Sweet thanks James147 for the help [18:47] vuxi: OK. from what I'm looking at online, there aren't any problems reported regarding the calendar and vcf. did you reinstall kontact as part of all of your reinstallations? [18:47] SaintlySacrfice: what did u do? [18:48] woot back on the lappytop [18:48] annddd off the iphone :D [18:48] http://pastebin.com/gx7wt3Zp is this information usefull in anyway? [18:48] Saintly: :D [18:49] James147: wierd, my icon for connected is different now. LOL [18:49] dolomite: yes I installed a complete new Kubuntu fresh from a DVD. [18:50] vuxi: ok then I'm not sure how to fix your is'sue. If you [18:50] 're willing to try something new, I wonder how thunderbird will deal with your vcf [18:50] ok I´ll try this tomorrow === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [18:51] hi, how to fix broken dependencies in kubuntu? [18:51] Manyfold: doesn't look good. did you upgrade to 10.04? [18:51] Reign1: you can try "sudo aptitude install -f" [18:51] Saintly: Thanks for the link, that's exactly what happened to me [18:51] dolomite: yeah it happened after the upgrade [18:52] Manyfold: can you try running "sudo aptitude install -f" and see if it fixes anything? [18:52] Manyfold: oh yeah and you cant back your stuff up and do a fresh install right? James147 how's that test going? [18:52] i cant keep amarok from moving about, when i spread the middle box the panels on the side only expand one way even with the lock panel checked/unchecked [18:53] dolomite: restarting the vm now [18:53] about the h.264 licensing by canonical, is it only restricted to oems like preinstalled dell or is it for every user that uses k/ubuntu? [18:53] i think it would be too expensive for every user? [18:53] help me ! [18:53] Manyfold: James147 is running a test that could ensure that you can do a fresh install of 10.04 w/o losing your home directory [18:54] I installed Kubuntu 10.04 but the hard thing to break the system I can not even log in the terminal gives me no how can a live CD to Recover a system without format ...? [18:54] dolomite: Thanks for now === simon_ is now known as Guest10909 [18:54] vuxi: which I had something more for ya. report back. [18:54] James147: it installs over 200 packets new [18:55] Manyfold: :S looked like your system hadent finished doing stuff, not sure if that command will actually fix anyhting but it might :) [18:55] dolomite: ok bye [18:55] Upgrading initramfs-tools fails because my boot partition is full. If I just unmount it and remove the fstab entry, will the installer point grub to its new location on the root partition? [18:56] ? [18:58] sabaal, you should probably copy the contents over before you unmount it. [18:58] hey slackers ) [18:59] dolomite: Looks like eveerything in /home remains after a reinstall if you dont choose to format / [18:59] SuN_, I don't understand a thing you just said [19:00] James147: in your opinion, will not formatting / even fix the install if it's broken? [19:00] pucko-, I just want to make sure the bootloader will know which partition to look on. [19:01] vince: anytime bro [19:01] Saintly: :) [19:02] ;) [19:02] sabaal: if not you can easaly reinstall grub from a livecd :) [19:02] Ah, I hadn't thought of that. [19:02] Well, off to give it a try. Thanks. [19:02] sabaal, run grub-install afterwards just to be sure. I don't see why it wouldn't work. [19:05] Manyfold: you should consider trying a fresh install from a CD/DVD. It appears that if you don't choose to format / directory, you won't loose your /home either. [19:06] dolomite: but will /usr be erased completely? [19:06] Manyfold: /usr is part of / so I'd think not. James147 please confirm [19:07] Manyfold: dolomite: According to the install all system directorys will be erased (including /var /etc /usr some other ones) but if you want to make sure delete it before installing :) [19:08] James147: Manyfold doesn't want /usr erased, I think. [19:08] would rather like to run some tests for maxima and octave and verify the work [19:08] they work [19:09] !maxima [19:09] cause thats what i do with this computer watching tv ,reading and numerical simulations [19:09] Manyfold: But I suggest making a backup of your data if you can (things can always go wrong) and make sure that you DONT check the format button :) and that you select the manual partition option [19:09] so you still say fresh instal IS THE OPTION? [19:09] sorry Manyfold I wish there was an easier option but the crashes you're getting aren't pretty. [19:10] k [19:10] yohoho guys, why can't i use shift+arrows/delete in the console? [19:10] will do so this night [19:10] Manyfold: possibally not the "only" option, just the eisiest [19:10] thank you for your help and time [19:10] good luck [19:11] Machtin: I'm assuming you get letter output for shift+arrow keys? [19:12] pardon, i think i meant ctrl+arrow, dolomite [19:13] tab-switching via alt+arrow works, but deleting complete words at once doesn't.. that's the annoying thing [19:13] Manyfold: Ctrl+arrows works here in konsole (4.4.2) delete and backspace dont :S [19:13] Machtin: I'm the opposite of James147 [19:13] dolomite: lol [19:13] isn't this controlled in konsole setting? [19:13] James147: you surely mean Machtin [19:14] Manyfold: sorry :) [19:14] Manyfold: tab completeion chose you and I forgot to check :D [19:14] and armyops just failed [19:14] hehe [19:14] ./armyops-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [19:15] reinstall? [19:15] Manyfold: sooner than later? [19:15] i don't know whether it's a setting, but it's kind of annoying to jump to a certain position in a command that slowly [19:15] Machtin: doesn't konsole have keybinding settings? (I'm not on my KDE machine right now) [19:16] dolomite: it does, [19:16] i don't have the slightes clue. :/ [19:16] Machtin: check it out! [19:16] actually, it just worked and that was fine for me.. now it doesn't. [19:16] where? [19:17] Machtin: Konsole > settings > edit profile > input [19:19] hm, nice.. somehow got the arrows working :) [19:20] well that's fine so far. thanks! [19:21] as i'm on it: i wonder why alt+f2 doesn't work any longer? [19:22] Machtin: for the run command? works perfectly for me [19:22] it's set in my global keyboard settings tab. [19:22] hmh, strange [19:22] Machtin: krunner might ahve crashed, try rerunning it :) [19:22] hm, i set it manually.. works now [19:24] thanks .) [19:24] is there a way set wallpapers from gwenview? [19:24] ohhh, another thing :P [19:25] i have a program installed, it's in my home-directory.. when i click on the launch-script in dolphin or so it won't work, when i do ./launchscript.sh it does work [19:26] Machtin: is the file executable? chmod +x [19:26] firefox is asking to install missing plug ins. last time i did it i got GNOME-MPlayer...well this time i have a few choices... there is gnine launcher there is VLC multimedia plugin - totem mozzila plg in and gecko media wich was the gnome-mplayer which one do i chose? - [19:26] VLC is very nice [19:26] the plugin takes care of a lot of things at once [19:26] zus go with gnome-mplayer [19:27] bawww: awww [19:27] dolomite: guess it is, since i can see it launch.. the load-icon of the program appears, but it doesn't continue loading.. [19:27] zus: gnome-mplayer is compatible with quicktime trailers [19:27] that wont open VLC everytime i get a chat in facebook like kaffeine did will it? [19:27] Machtin: run it from konsole and see if there's an error holding it back [19:27] zus: no it's integrated [19:27] dolomite: vlc support in firefox wasn't that great when i tried it [19:27] haha, quicktie [19:27] dolomite: that's the problem.. it works when i launch it in the console [19:28] i thought it might be the wrong terminal or so.. [19:28] Does anyone here use 'MeshLab' ? [19:28] Machtin: I think you can tell it to launch in terminal [19:28] dolomite: really, they have the best quality movie trailers [19:28] hi room! can i install ubuntu 10.4 server on a pentium2 machine 192MB SDRAM 6GB?!? [19:28] bawww: I know. I wish I could somehow get over how much I hate Apple. [19:29] rome_: that's looking a little slim there [19:29] dolomite: i wish i didn't have to depend on a gnome application, but it gnome-mplayer does things smoother [19:29] dolomite: i don't want any gui [19:29] rome_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#System_requirements [19:29] rome_: I think I'm wrong [19:30] dolomite: thx! [19:30] dolomite: can't find that option in dolphin.. but the tool works when i launch it via Konsole [19:30] bawww: if it works it works! I try to keep mplayer off my system haha [19:30] Machtin: I think the option is in the preferences of the .sh file [19:30] dolomite: why do you hate mplayer so much? ) [19:30] OH NO! [19:30] dolomite: it's the best.. at least for me) [19:31] kk [19:31] me too i just deleleted it last night gnome-mplayer hehe didnt know what it was doing in my system [19:31] * dolomite hides while progre55 walks past him in the hall [19:31] lmao :D [19:31] dolomite: and why do you hame ME that much? :D [19:31] every time I'm here, you either hide or duck ) [19:32] progre55: you and I go way back! like last thursday. your questions are always amusing; I don't hate you. [19:32] zus: check out the VLC plugin and see if it takes care of your needs [19:32] * progre55 is satisfied with the excuse ) [19:33] still can't find it.. but never mind. [19:33] so what brings you here today progre55? [19:33] dolomite, least now i know how to get rid of it [19:33] dolomite: boredom :) === jkaegi___ is now known as jkaegi_ [19:34] progre55: tell me about it. I'm just passing the time in the nerdiest of places. haha [19:34] lol ) [19:35] though I'm kinda tired for amusement and amusing questions today.. feel like taking shower.. [19:35] bbl [19:35] dolomite: yeah, i hate apple too but between flash resource hog and apple's trailers [19:35] bawww: I'm hoping flash will eventually just fry my system and I can organize a class-action lawsuit against adobe [19:35] dolomite: it's a difficult choice we need some sort of open source friendly alternative, like ogg, theora trailer site [19:36] dolomite: so are you saying you dont have the flash plugin installed? [19:36] I want to get more information about a package in apt called 'mesa-utils' how can i get this info, like man pages, without installing it? [19:37] * progre55 is thinking to replace his flash with vlc.. ? [19:37] caprea: aptitude show mesa-utils [19:37] progre55: I tried to "make do" with gnash for as long as possible but, yes, I eventually yielded and installed flashplugin-installer [19:37] * progre55 changed his mind.. [19:37] :D [19:37] thanks [19:37] grrr, James147, give me time teo typ [19:37] dolomite: NEVER!!! [19:37] lol, wish we could file a suit against flash [19:37] :D [19:38] alias xxx = "correct answer" [19:38] now you're dead, James147 [19:38] dolomite: does taht make me a zombie? [19:38] James147: kill -9 James147 [19:39] * progre55 sudo kill -9 James147 [19:39] * James147 bites dolomite [19:39] lol [19:39] damn, I was late this time.. [19:39] * progre55 got "such process doesnt exist" [19:39] process: dolomite PID: 0001 status: zombie [19:40] haha progre55 [19:41] btw, has anyone fixed the plymouth splash screen bug here? [19:41] today I tried this.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/551013/comments/73 [19:41] progre55: everyone has had luck with that fix; you're the only one who hasn't! [19:41] kinda worked, but not satisfactory ) [19:42] my TTY resolution was too small [19:43] guys, if my fonts on kubuntu are kind of too small, what would you suggest? as i guess this "problem" should be common [19:43] ? [19:43] Reign1: you can change the font size system settings > apperence > fonts [19:49] wow =) my resolution changed to 480x640, and now when I change it back, the fonts are too small :) [19:51] hello [19:51] hmm.. only in systemSettings [19:51] any ideas, please? [19:53] sprech ihr deutsch [19:53] oops, not only in systemSettings.. in all new applications I open.. [19:53] !de|marcel_ [19:53] marcel_: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [19:54] progre55: system settings > appearence > fonts | you can try changing the font size or forcing a dpi? [19:54] James147: that's what I just did.. no use [19:55] progre55: :S not sure waht else to do except try restaring x and see if its still liek that [19:56] brb [19:58] Hi guys I just installed 10.04 amd64 everything was fine at first but I installed some updates last night and I turned on the computer now I can't use mouse or touchpad [19:58] kjkjkj [19:58] I can move the pointer but I can't click anywhere unless I right click and select something on the task bar any ideas [19:59] well, now it's fine [19:59] stupid CS === christian is now known as Guest65611 [20:01] marcel_: hier spreche deutsch [20:01] !de [20:01] In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [20:04] how to enable bitmap fonts on console? [20:09] aguante el kuguntçu carakjoo [20:09] windows se la come!!! [20:09] HOLAAAAAAAAAAA [20:09] eeeh!!! [20:09] HOLAAAAAAAAAAAA [20:09] ubuntu____: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [20:09] VOS TE LA COMES [20:09] arreh [20:09] eeee [20:09] agresivoooo [20:09] Hi [20:09] HIFAI [20:09] !help [20:10] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [20:10] HI [20:10] viagra por 2pe [20:10] hi [20:10] DO YOU LIKE WINDOWS ? [20:10] I discovered something which I guess is a problem on your side. [20:10] 5b256bf515ae49749ac03a1af9d407c0 kubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso [20:10] what did you discovered? [20:10] Is what the http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download says. [20:10] O.o [20:10] TE VOY A LLENAR DE VIRUS [20:10] dk [20:10] :O [20:10] But when I try to get the file on torrent, it is different. [20:10] el culo tenes lleno de virus [20:11] Request English please. [20:11] Request English please. [20:11] cuchame carita de sorete [20:11] que alguien lo calle al profe [20:11] jajajaja [20:11] boluntarios? [20:11] arreh :$ [20:11] James147: save the channel =) [20:11] jaja xD [20:12] !es| ubuntu___ [20:12] ubuntu___: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [20:12] 54a83342ae79ea57919bff833d8a13f6cf1201db is what bittorent shows to me [20:12] Hi here. [20:12] on the info page. [20:12] progre55: what am i ment to do? [20:12] I have a problem with kate. I can't write on a sftp file, and I don't understand why. [20:12] James147: help them ) [20:12] el q lo calla 5 p [20:12] damian les entregala cola [20:12] James147: actually, I thought you were one of the ops =) [20:12] jajaj [20:12] 8 p [20:12] jajaja [20:13] 5b256bf515ae49749ac03a1af9d407c0 kubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso is what the GetKubuntu page says. But Bittorent shows this sum on the download info page: 54a83342ae79ea57919bff833d8a13f6cf1201db [20:13] 10 [20:13] dale prefiero estasr 3 hs en el buffeet [20:13] no digas esos julian [20:13] jajaaj [20:13] axel sopla las vei [20:13] !ops| troll ubuntu______ [20:13] troll ubuntu______: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, apachelogger, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, or txwikinger [20:13] las ganas q tiene [20:13] xd [20:13] axel lame teta [20:13] Nice :p [20:13] finally ) [20:13] * apachelogger shakes head [20:13] first time i have been around to do that in a while :D [20:14] * progre55 's boredom was destroyed === jupiter is now known as Guest45429 [20:14] heh [20:14] I think we all saw that [20:14] * DarthFrog thanks nixternal [20:14] I had finger on the button [20:14] *click* [20:14] booyah, i beat ya to the punch rod!!! [20:14] could someone please get rid of nixternal too :P [20:14] So, I have a problem with Kate. When I try to save a file to a distant sftp server, it says : Access denied. Could not write to /var/www/V3/reponse/functions.php.part. Where /var/www/V3/reponse is the distant server path to the file. What can I do ? [20:14] yep [20:15] ha [20:15] oh boy, i finally do some work and now I will take flak over it [20:15] Please check this image: The highlighted md5sum is not what BitTorrent shows for the torrent! http://imagebin.org/95894 [20:15] Is it a problem? [20:15] apachelogger, dont dis mr vista lover [20:16] If yes, gotta be big one D: [20:16] oh [20:16] * apachelogger hugs the visternal [20:16] hah [20:16] grrr [20:16] pff [20:16] * apachelogger stops hugging [20:16] doesnt like it [20:17] RalphSpencer: try running a manual md5 sum on the image, if it fails try redownloging it :S [20:17] RalphSpencer: i don't believe 'infohash' is the same as the 'iso md5sum' [20:17] the md5 sum will only show once the entire iso is downloaded, then you can run 'md5sum foo.iso' and match them up [20:18] James147: Do you see the speed on there my friend? [20:18] No one can help with my kate problem :( ? [20:18] Its just 21.2% complete by the way. [20:19] speedy download [20:19] RalphSpencer: then that would be why, md5 checks to see if a file looks teh same as another, its not going to if you dont ahve the full image :) [20:19] RalphSpencer: when teh image is complete run an md5 sum, I dont know what "infohash" is [20:20] Hi guys I just installed 10.04 amd64 everything was fine at first but I installed some updates last night and I turned on the computer now I can't use mouse or touchpad. I can move the pointer but I can't click anywhere unless I right click few times until a dropdown menu opens on the task bar or windows. I can open the Kmenu but pointer won't select anything [20:20] ok ok ok ok .. pachka pachka pachka pachka [20:22] !brasero [20:22] !info brasero [20:22] brasero (source: brasero): CD/DVD burning application for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.30.0-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 319 kB, installed size 1060 kB [20:24] James147: infohash is something torrent specific, each torrent got a hash to ensure that the download is all in one piece and no malware/code was injected into the download [20:26] hi how do I change wallpaper in lucid? [20:27] whammo: right click on the desktop, choose Desktop Activity Settings [20:27] whammo: wallpaper settings are right there [20:29] ahh thanks! [20:30] in trying to get to a yahoo chatroom [20:30] should I be installing backport packages of kde? [20:31] gaim wont connect to a yahoo chatroom. logs in tho [20:31] any ideas? [20:32] Avttt: gaim is a GNOME app. Perhaps you'd get better support in #Ubuntu? [20:32] waaait lol [20:32] mmkay. besides gaim and gyachi and every gtk solution (failcake!). what's the yahoo webkam/chatroom app? [20:32] they sent me over here [20:33] im using kubuntu man [20:33] cant get any chat working on it [20:33] Avttt: Well, konversation and quassel are the KDE IRC clients. [20:33] Avttt: no reason for it to fail. maybe if you pastebin'd the log file someone could help more.. [20:34] DarthFrog: :? and irrsi is ncurses... lol. [20:34] how do i change font for the console? [20:34] DarthFrog: no plasmairc? :P [20:34] oh [20:35] Reign1: edit /etc/default/console-setup [20:37] djustice: hm, so if i wanna use inconsolata font in console/terminal, what do i change? [20:39] Reign1: FONTFACE. make sure the font is consolesavvy first. or you might get borkage. dunno tho. ive never done it on an ubuntu system. [20:44] anyone else did change console/terminal fonts? [20:53] I've downloaded all the packages into a directory for installation with dpkg. I'm not a sudoer, so I have to install the program in my own homedirectory, but dpkg still wants superuser privilege even though I use the options that specify my homedir as the installation folder. How can I get dpkg to work without needing sudo rights? [20:54] appleseed: you cannot, installing software using the package-management always needs root-privs [20:54] appleseed, you can extract the packages manually [20:55] they are .deb , ok I'll google to see how it's done, thx pucko and llutz [20:55] appleseed, will obviously not be registered in the pkg db [20:55] appleseed: ar -x filename.deb then untar the data,tar,gz [20:56] I'll give that a go, thx genii [20:56] i suppose it's possible to set up a separate dpkg db in a chroot eenvironment [20:56] np [20:59] works nicely genii, now I can get to the /usr/lib libraries directly after extraction, which is all I want [21:00] ok ok ok ok .. pachka pachka pachka pachka [21:02] gyachi installed lol [21:05] hola hola [21:05] heyho [21:06] hello justus [21:06] did any one can help me? [21:07] I got very heavy lags here, I'm running Kubuntu 10.04 64bit, on a 3,2Ghz Q6600 with 8Gig Ram with a 9800GTX so basically it should not lag... I'm just running VLC and that's about it... [21:07] the video (720p only) lags heavily [21:07] and even X lags [21:08] can I control how fast my cpu is running? and if all cores are available? top shows me Xorg and firefox with 40-50% load... [21:11] guess it's too much to ask an OS to simply work ... [21:13] i want to burn in k3b some videos downloaded from youtube on mp4 and flv i try to burn it but it on dvd proyect i just add the files to video_ts only and i dont know what else do i need it say that need little more files or someting it says that it doesnot contain the necesari dvd video files , the resulting dvd most likely not to be playable on hifi dvd player, X could not determine the zise of resulting image file [21:14] justus: have you installed video card drivers? [21:14] yes I have [21:14] !info devede | daweed [21:14] daweed: devede (source: devede): simple application to create Video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.16.8-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 1976 kB, installed size 4024 kB [21:15] justus: and you have restarted after that install? [21:15] jussi: a few times [21:15] * genii pops in for a sip of coffee [21:15] guys, what them to use to make my panel/taskbar transparent? [21:15] I recently ran into the problem that / was full, so everything kept crashing on me until I manually deleted everything in the trashbin [21:16] something there still isn't completely right *sigh* [21:16] justus: ubottu can you explain little more im newbi here is my firt time w/ linux and is kubuntu [21:16] justus: strang, I have a similar setup and its running fine (Q6600, nivida 9500 GT 4 GB ram) [21:16] I can't acess that one over the file manager [21:16] what *theme [21:16] Kate doesnt wanna open .js files, but in 10.04 in open them perfectly. Its now says it cannot interpret the file, can someone help me? (trying to edit a script installed with greasemonkey) [21:16] daweed: ubottu is a bot. go install devede from kpackagekit. [21:16] jussi: the thing is my whole install seems pretty much crappy, only that's the 3rd install and I honestly can't believe that I crap up quite THAT often... [21:17] Kate doesnt wanna open .js files, but in kubuntu 9.10 in open them perfectly. Its now says it cannot interpret the file, can someone help me? (trying to edit a script installed with greasemonkey) [21:17] justus: 3rd install from the same disk? [21:17] ohhh tnks justus [21:17] daweed: The application which can make DVDs you can play on a regular player is called devede. It will make all the DVD layout for you, you just add the footage you want in it. [21:17] Kate doesnt wanna open .js files, but in kubuntu 9.10 in opened them perfectly. Its now says it cannot interpret the file, can someone help me? (trying to edit a script installed with greasemonkey) [21:17] wubi ;) [21:17] !repeat | Luija1006 [21:17] Luija1006: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait. [21:18] justus: yök. tried to redownload the wubi installer file? [21:18] justus: is there a reason you dont want to go with a rea install? [21:18] real* [21:19] yes, I don't want to reformat and I have no money for another hd === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [21:19] justus: why not just resize? [21:19] !away > dendrobates [21:19] dendrobates, please see my private message [21:19] justus: devede is better than k3d? [21:19] daweed: you mean jussi not me ;) [21:19] daweed: not better, but for a different task [21:21] jussi: I want the least complicated approach, so unless wubi could have something to do with my problem? [21:21] daweed: k3b for instance does not know how to take a FLV file and make it into a format that a regular DVD player can use. The program devede can do this [21:21] daweed: nah devede is pretty complex for such a simple task.. check out kxtodvd instead. [21:22] or even wine convertxtodvd is easier/less gnomish than devede (pygtk, ick!) [21:22] justus: it may. most of us stay away from it because it always seems to have some strange bugs. resizing is not very hard, the installer can automatically do it for you. just defraga about 3 or 4 times before you do it. [21:22] jussi: well, I guess I'll just do the smart thing then [21:23] byebye kubuntu O_o [21:23] justus: sure, if that suits your needs better. [21:23] http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KxToDVD?content=122178 <- kxtodvd. win. [21:23] seriously, that's the third time I tried going over from Windows, I don't seem to get a grip on linux desktop osses [21:23] you guys all of you are very kind thanks very much [21:23] !info kxtodvd [21:23] Package kxtodvd does not exist in lucid [21:24] daweed: np :) [21:24] jussi: no packages yet. its new. [21:24] djustice: generally we prefer not to recommend things to people outside of the repos, unless there is no other alternative [21:24] Kate doesnt wanna open .js files, but in kubuntu 9.10 in opened them perfectly. It now says it cannot interpret the file, can someone help me? (trying to edit a script installed with greasemonkey) [21:24] jussi: may be in a ppa somewhere. [21:24] jussi: there is no better alternative ;) imho.. [21:25] djustice:devede is quite an acceptable alternative. [21:25] !wfm | djustice [21:25] djustice: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/ [21:25] jussi: pft. using pygtk? and kxtodvd is almost 2x as fast.. [21:26] I'm just interested: is it something I did wrong? Because my problems started with files I deleted in the trashbin NOT being really deleted... I still have no idea how that happened... [21:26] djustice: its not about speed, its about stability [21:26] djustice: is kxto dvd the correct name? i cant found it to download [21:26] jussi: im the author of kxtodvd. its stable. very small. very simple. [21:26] justus: Im not sure. there may be a bug or it may be something else, its hard to tell with the limited info [21:27] Hey I try to install chrome but i get this Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libnss3-1d (>= 3.12.3) . anybody knows what i should do? [21:27] daweed: check that link ^^ on kde-apps [21:27] neptune_: wait for a chrome pkg rebuild or find that particular package somewhere.. [21:27] djustice: and its not in our repositories. so it hasnt been checked by people other than you. so we dont recommend it to our users. [21:28] neptune_: are you on lucid? [21:28] djustice: do you mind kpackagekit i cant found it there [21:29] daweed: I strongly suggest you use devede for now. it should easily do what you need. [21:29] jussi: kool :) idc rly. just tryin to help the dude. [21:29] daweed: i can link you to a deb if you want.. it wont show under kpackagekit tho.. [21:29] Kate doesnt wanna open .js files, but in kubuntu 9.10 it opened them perfectly. It now says it cannot interpret the file, can someone help me? (trying to edit a script installed with greasemonkey) [21:30] guys, what theme to use to make my panel/taskbar transparent? [21:30] Reign1: i like Shadowed's panel.. pretty transparent.. [21:31] Reign1: or for 100% transparent, you can take BareNaked's panel.. [21:32] heh, it was already in a ppa. :3 [21:33] jussi: with devede say that package dependency could not be found remove the package libpostproc51 before [21:33] what can i do [21:33] ? [21:37] . [21:44] wine is already in kubuntu [21:44] but I installed yepic and tryed to open [21:45] and popup window says its loading then it disapear [21:45] any idea? [21:45] Breakthrough for Free Software Gaming--Ryzom Announces Full Release of Source Code and Artwork, and a Partnership with the Free Software Foundation to Host a Repository of the Game's Artistic Assets [21:45] I also installed zinc chat and when I login it also disapears [21:45] http://www.fsf.org/news/free-ryzom-1 [21:45] goes back to the terminal [21:45] please can someone help? [21:45] am I missing something [21:45] Avttt: i guess it doesnt work with wine :) maybe try again? or try a different version of wine? [21:46] this came with it lol [21:46] and I have this thing called synaptic package manager [21:46] but thing dont connect [21:50] ??? [21:54] KDE4.0, plugged in new hard drive, seems to read OK, "Please enter password to use this device", cant enter anything into the field, blinking text cursor...any ideas? [21:55] polyneux: Dumb question: Did you click in the field first to give it the focus? [21:55] DarthFrog: Yeah, it highlights blue and whatnot just like any other text window [21:55] polyneux: Strange. Sorry, that's all I can think of. [21:56] polyneux: I presume that your keyboard is working? (I'm full of simple-mindedness today! Well, I'm full of something, anyway. :-) [22:01] DarthFrog: Yeah I can enter text elsewhere [22:04] DarthFrog: No worries though, I think I just broke the whole kaboodle by fiddling with ram xD [22:12] I've copied lib files *.so *.so.0 *.so.0.0.0 *.a to another directory, although during g++ linking those libraries are not seen with LD_LIBRARY_PATH set to the new folder. I also see that the library files have lost their blue and green colour with ls. Is there some sort of tool that I need to run to get their colour back and make them visible for proper linking? [22:13] LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not used at that point sorry, but I do have the -L/dir in my makefile [22:26] hi - looking for help with internationalization [22:28] there is an awful lot of people attached here for this to be this quiet -- anyone home? :) [22:29] roberto_: maybe you should be a bit more precise, ask your question first? [22:30] oo sure :) I have my system set up for spanish, because I'm most comfortable with it. but I chat a lot in portuguese and the nasal vowels don't seem to be a part of the spanish keyboard layout. I thought to use iBus, but Portuguese (nor spanish for that matter) are lsited there. How can I type a nasal vowel? [22:31] roberto_: you could add a second keyboard to your system, in the system settings -> Region & Language -> Keyboard [22:32] then add the keyboard switcher in the same settings to make it show in the system tray, then you can just click on the flag and change it [22:33] That's what I do when I need either a Swiss German or Swiss French keyboard [22:34] I can't hear sound when I watch youtube videos, does anyone know how to fix this? [22:34] so it's not iBus at all? [22:34] thank you [22:35] roberto_: well, I never used a direct iBus command, I just use different keyboard layours [22:35] layouts* [22:38] wow I gotta say, looking at these portuguese keyboard layouts I'm confused .. Iused to just type alt+ñ to get the tilde and then type the vowel .. I never needed anything else. But the letters there are all sorts of letters in these keyboards I've never seen [22:38] wllkmbll: i usually have to open kmix and push the pcm-volume up after every install to hear sound in flash videos [22:39] roberto_: hm, I have a keyboard with the Swiss layout, where the German and French special characters are already printed on, you could try the extended options [22:41] in the same system settings window, the Sdvanced tab [22:41] advanced* [22:41] cranvil: Everytime I try to open it the icon flashes by my cursor then nothing happens [22:42] Mamarok: You seem familiar with KDE4. Do you know how to get multi-key shortcuts? (e.g. "Alt-A,B" does one thing, "Alt-A,C" does another) [22:42] cranvil:Nvm, I figured it out. Thanks for your help [22:46] kwtm: check the keyboard settings in the system settings, you can adapt the global shortcuts and in the individual apps you can change the local ones [22:47] Mamarok: When I check the keyboard settings, I can't find the button for "multi-key". [22:47] kwtm: but multi key will not really work, you need to combine different function keys, or hange the levels of your keyboard layout [22:47] change* [22:47] kwtm: because there is none [22:47] kwtm: have a look at the advanced keyboard layout options [22:48] Mamarok: No multi-key!!? Oh, mannn.... Okay, what about assigning a kmenu entry to a shortcut key? That option seems to have disappeared, too. [22:49] kwtm: well, if by multi-key you mean multiple letter keys at once then no, and it doesn't sound like a good idea anyway IMHO [22:49] Are we expecting there will be packages for Qt 4.7 beta and Qt Creator 2.0 beta? [22:49] but you can combine pretty much all function keys with the other keys [22:50] kernco: not in the release cycle, those might show up in the backports PPA or beta PPAs, check the http://kubuntu.org website [22:50] Mamarok: I mean pressing keys in sequence, e.g. "Alt-A, release, then press B" will (for example, in my old KDE3) trigger my script to insert a timestamp into Klipper. [22:51] kwtm: hm, I never used that so I don't really know, sorry [22:51] but if it was there before it is likely that it still exists, did you check the various system setting options for shortcuts? [22:54] Mamarok: In KDE3, I could go to a kmenu entry (say, for Firefox) and assign shortcut key, like "Win-F" (I know, no multikey, but I'll be happy with single key). Is that available in KDE4? [22:55] kwtm: did you try? [22:55] kwtm: obviously not, else you would know you can :) [22:56] you can set shortcuts for pretty much everything in KDE4 [22:56] Mamarok: Yes, I tried. It doesn't seem to work. (Apparently it only takes effect while the desktop is showing and no other program has focus?) [22:56] hm, file a bug then? [22:56] Mamarok: Let me try again just to make sure. [22:57] yo yo yo [22:57] kwtm: Settings > Configure Shortcuts isn't what you're looking for? [22:57] Mamarok: Well, I don't know if I should file a bug. I've seen other people file bugs and they get dumped to a side. "wont fix" or "not important" or "it's not supposed to work that way" or "why do you want to do it that way, anyway?" etc. [22:57] kernco: Will try that way. I was using "menu editor" > "shortcut key" [22:58] kwtm: did you try? [22:59] kernco: I remember now: I tried under "global shortcuts" and it made me select whether it was "kalarm" or "kmix" etc. I looked at "khotkeys" but wasn't sure how to use that or whether it was what I wanted. [23:00] Mamarok: Yes, I tried it again, and confirmed that it did not work. [23:00] kernco: Is there a setting for "hotkey to activate my own script"? [23:00] kwtm: I meant, did you try filing a bug? If your rationale for a feature addition makes sense, I very much doubt it is set aside [23:01] Mamarok: I've tried filing a bug before, and got shoved to a side, so I'm not going to try again unless I can't move forward otherwise. I've already spent hours googling for the solution, and I need something that works, not something that will work if I convince the right people. [23:02] kwtm: So you want to use a keyboard shortcut to execute an arbitrary command no matter what the program has focus? [23:02] Mamarok: I actually just want to get my work done in the minimum time, and filing a bug involves spending enough time poring through the web and forums and IRC to make sure it's not already filed, and then checking the bug list to make sure it's not a duplicate, etc. [23:03] kernco: Correct. I am happy to limit the arbitrary to a terminal, non-gui command. [23:05] kwtm: You can probably accomplish that by going lower-level than KDE. Maybe you can put something in xorg.conf that does it. [23:05] kernco: Oh dear. Okay. I was hoping KDE4 would be able to do something like that. [23:06] In general it seems that KDE3 is more functional (global shortcuts, multi-key) even if KDE4 has flashier graphics. [23:07] I'm not sure about that, since there's stuff you can do in KDE4 that you couldn't in KDE3. But there's definitely some features from KDE3 that are still missing, yes. [23:09] There are some global shortcuts that work, like Alt-F2 to run a command. How would I change that shortcut? I don't even know what program it is that pops up when I press Alt-F2. [23:09] It's called krunner [23:09] It should be in global shortcuts I think [23:10] Ah, krunner. Okay, having that name somewhere in the settings/help file would have helped. Will check global shortcuts again, now that I know what I'm looking for... [23:11] what does khotkeys do? Can I make new hot keys? [23:11] wasn't alt+f2 present in kde3 too? [23:11] kwtm: system setings-> keyboard & mouse -> global keyboard shortcuts [23:11] kwtm: khotkeys is a way to asign key combinations to make shortcuts to commands [23:11] krunner is a really nice tool. It's moved past just being a way to run a program and is moving towards Gnome Do. [23:11] kwtm: the component you need to select is: "Run command interface" [23:12] avihay: Okay, I found the answer to my question, but I have to say that you are not the first to say "system setings-> keyboard & mouse -> global keyboard shortcuts" but then I still get lost. [23:12] avihay: Ah, okay, "run command interface" --that was the piece I was missing. [23:12] avihay: Hey, can I add my own component? Like "add ~/bin/MyArbitraryCommand.sh" to the components? [23:12] When copying files is there a way to make the copy process copy files linked by a symlink instead of copying the symlink itself? [23:13] yes [23:13] let's be more specific. you want a global shortcut to do something when you press a key combination? [23:13] Walzmyn: khotkeys might be what I'm looking for. Is there any way to configure it other than from system settings? RIght now it seems to be limited to defining what key will activate "print screen" and I can't add my own. [23:14] kwtm: been too long since I've used it, to be honest [23:14] you can create your own hotkeys [23:14] Walzmyn: you mean cp -l or cp -L? [23:14] Walzmyn: I mean, cp --deference or cp --link? [23:15] I was using GUI. I was looking at the man page for cp trying to figure out if it followed links or just copied them [23:15] kwtm: in khotkeys, click the edit button on the lower left - there's a "new" option there. Looks like what you're looking for [23:16] kwtm: so, cp -L will copy the file not link, is that what it means by follow the link? [23:17] Walzmyn: When I go to SystemSettings > Kbd/Mouse > Global Shortcuts > KHotkeys, is that khotkeys itself? Or is khotkeys a separate program? I can't seem to invoke it from the cmd-line. [23:17] Walzmyn: I believe "cp -L" will do it, but test. One of either "cp -L" or "cp -l" is what you want, but I don't know which one. [23:19] kwtm: I just hit alt-F2 --> khotkeys [23:20] Walzmyn: Wow, it worked!! I finally have my 6-character timestamp back again!!! [23:20] I can save backup files again! [23:21] kwtm: i'm so glad... what's a 6 character time stamp? [23:21] hi guys [23:21] Well, normal timestamps look like this: "2010-05-07 06:21:35". My timestamp looks like this: "A576Ll" [23:22] So I can stick my timestamp into filenames easily, and it will always produce a unique, "pseudorandom" stamp but containing useful info: exactly when that file (or timestamp) was created. And the filenames don't have to be 20 characters long! [23:22] ah, that cp -L was the trick. Wonder if there's a way for force that on the GUI [23:23] Walzmyn: You don't necessarily want to force it, at least by default. If you're talking about something like krusader, you can define your own menu item for that. [23:23] I like that. What'd that have to do with khotkeys? [23:23] kwtm: no, i just meant for a single copy, not all the time [23:24] Walzmyn: khotkeys: I needed a way to easily produce the timestamp without having to jump to the cmd line all the time (e.g. I might be saving a file in Firefox and just want to insert the timestamp into the filename). SO khotkeys can make the timestamp appear. [23:25] Walzmyn: What GUI are you using? Dolphin? Konq? [23:25] ah, sweet idea. I might borrow it, I use a date stamp in my photo names [23:25] Dolphin. but now that I know how to do it with CLI i'm set [23:25] Walzmyn: The reason I mentioned the 6-character timestamp was because too many people keep telling me, "KDE 4 already has that lets you put in timestamps". And I want to say, "no, I mean my OWN brand of condensed timestamp!" [23:26] super's ready over here. ya'll take care [23:26] Walzmyn: I wonder if you'd be interested in my python script to rename photo names with a timestamp? [23:26] Walzmyn: It goes into the EXIF data and pulls out the time that the photo was taken, then adds a 6-character timestamp to the filename. [23:26] Sure. I'll give it a look [23:26] siema [23:27] Walzmyn: That way if I fiddle with the photo in GIMP or KolourPaint or something and destroy the EXIF data, the timestamp is still there. [23:27] * Walzmyn nods [23:27] Walzmyn: Needs a bit of cleanup. I'll stick it in my Slashdot journal. What's your email address? [23:27] walzmyn at gmail [23:28] What the TUTTI FRUITTI --I used the kmenu to run kmail and it started Amarok. [23:28] hehe, i'm out - food [23:29] how to add custom actions to dolphin right click [23:30] bye walz. [23:36] elo elo [23:36] jest tu kto?/ [23:37] qqqq [23:37] qurwa shrek jestes?? [23:42] Kate doesnt wanna open .js files, but in kubuntu 9.10 it opened them perfectly. It now says it cannot interpret the file, can someone help me? (trying to edit a script installed with greasemonkey) [23:50] Luija1006: Sounds like the file is binary or something [23:50] Can you open it in other text editors? [23:52] kernco the option to edit is into greasemonkey, then you choose your editor of choice, i could not tell you where the script is [23:53] but I dont understand really whats happening, in 9.10 it opened every .js flawlessly [23:54] Do you know the name of the file? [23:55] Hi. Silly question: How can I add a network printer in Kubuntu 10.04. [23:55] Kate will open any text file, it doesn't matter what the extension is. So it's probably being given a bad filename [23:55] I've tried using the applet in System Settings and it hangs when I enter an IP address. [23:57] zer0rez: but then you have 2 laptops? its because I need the opinion of someone with ubuntu in Imac [23:57] Sup guys I have 3 questions about linux in Imac: 1) It is worth to install Linux into an imac or I should buy another computer in the market?, 2) Would you keep Mac Os or delete it?, 2) There is no hardware problems and its true the speed of linux in Imac pro is god? Thanks for your time :) [23:57] I've also Googled around and it wasn't easy to fnind much on this, surprisingly. [23:57] Mac Book Pro