[17:02] <matsubara> #startmeeting
[17:02] <MootBot> Meeting started at 11:02. The chair is matsubara.
[17:02] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[17:02] <matsubara> Welcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues.
[17:02] <matsubara> [TOPIC] Roll Call
[17:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Roll Call
[17:02] <sinzui> me
[17:02] <matsubara> Not on the Launchpad Dev team? Welcome! Come "me" with the rest of us!
[17:02] <Ursinha-sprint> me
[17:02] <adeuring> me
[17:03] <adeuring> (replacing allenap today)
[17:03] <matsubara> Chex, hi
[17:03] <Chex> me
[17:03] <matsubara> rockstar, hi
[17:03]  * rockstar stumbles into the meeting
[17:04] <matsubara> gary won't be around today, I'll be standing in for foundations
[17:04] <Ursinha-sprint> henninge, :)
[17:04] <matsubara> hi henninge
[17:04] <henninge> Hi Ursinha-sprint ;)
[17:04] <henninge> Hi matsubara ;)
[17:04] <matsubara> hmm bigjools is not around
[17:04] <henninge> matsubara: at somehands
[17:04] <matsubara> noodles775, can you stand in for soyuz?
[17:04] <sinzui> matsubara, he not avialable today
[17:05] <matsubara> all right. we can move on and if something comes up specific to soyuz, I'll contact them
[17:05] <matsubara> [TOPIC] Agenda
[17:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Agenda
[17:05] <matsubara>  * Actions from last meeting
[17:05] <matsubara>  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
[17:05] <matsubara>  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
[17:05] <matsubara>  * DBA report (stub)
[17:05] <matsubara>  * QA stats of the week
[17:05] <matsubara>  * Proposed items
[17:05] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Actions from last meeting
[17:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Actions from last meeting
[17:05] <matsubara>  * matsubara to talk with gary_poster about  a CP for bug 553361
[17:05] <matsubara>     * Done, fixed. I'll will request a CP.
[17:05] <matsubara>  * allenap to bump bug 230106 to High and explain why
[17:05] <matsubara>     * Done.
[17:05] <matsubara>  * matsubara to discuss bug 54005 with gary_poster
[17:05] <matsubara>     * Done. I'll file an RT for this one.
[17:05] <matsubara>  * Ursinha to triage lp-qa-tools bugs
[17:05] <matsubara> for 553361, I'll land it today and request the CP
[17:06] <matsubara> I filed rt #39164 for bug 54005
[17:06] <matsubara> Ursinha-sprint, did you have time to triage lp-qa-tools bugs?
[17:06] <Ursinha-sprint> matsubara, I haven't done mine
[17:07] <matsubara> [action] * Ursinha to triage lp-qa-tools bugs
[17:07] <MootBot> ACTION received:  * Ursinha to triage lp-qa-tools bugs
[17:07] <matsubara> let's move on
[17:07] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
[17:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
[17:07] <matsubara> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/575976 -- sinzui already triaged. thanks!
[17:07] <matsubara> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/576015 -- also already triaged by Tim. rockstar send my thanks to him, please :-)
[17:08] <matsubara> and there's this weird keyerror: https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops/?oopsid=OOPS-1585G1243
[17:08] <sinzui> matsubara, I can fix that in before our next meeting
[17:08] <matsubara> which I'll bring up to the foundations team and file a bug
[17:08] <matsubara> [action] matsubara to talk to foundations about OOPS-1585G1243
[17:08] <MootBot> ACTION received:  matsubara to talk to foundations about OOPS-1585G1243
[17:08] <matsubara> that's great to hear sinzui. thanks!
[17:09] <matsubara> we have some broken scripts: ppa-generate-keys which noodles775 is taking care of
[17:10] <matsubara> calculate_bug_heat is failing. adeuring can you follow up the script failure email sent to the list please?
[17:10] <henninge> Also, template generation from branches is not working yet.
[17:10] <adeuring> matsubara: sure
[17:11] <matsubara> [action] adeuring to follow up on calculate_bug_heat script failure
[17:11] <MootBot> ACTION received:  adeuring to follow up on calculate_bug_heat script failure
[17:12] <matsubara> we have 4 critical bugs, 2 in progress.
[17:12] <matsubara> one from soyuz and another one from foundations
[17:12] <matsubara> I'll chase the foundations one
[17:13] <matsubara> [action] matsubara to chase landing for bug 574493
[17:13] <MootBot> ACTION received:  matsubara to chase landing for bug 574493
[17:13] <matsubara> [action] matsubara to chase landing for bug 575426
[17:13] <MootBot> ACTION received:  matsubara to chase landing for bug 575426
[17:14] <matsubara> I think that's it for this section
[17:14] <matsubara> let's move on
[17:14] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
[17:14] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
[17:14] <Chex> hello everyone, here is this weeks report
[17:14] <matsubara> Chex, hi
[17:15] <matsubara> oops, go ahead
[17:15] <Chex> - LP rollout 10.04 occured on Tuesday; 04-May. Some issues were:
[17:15] <Chex>         : cesium: problems with buildmanager
[17:15] <Chex>         : guava: crash/lockup problems with codebrowse/loggerhead that were fixed by mwhudson
[17:15] <Chex>         : forster: issues with mailman, that an extensive cowboy fix was needed to get working.
[17:15] <Chex> - LP re-roll/CP 9336 on Wed 05-May: to address issues with codebrowse, mailman, and builddmanager.
[17:15] <Chex>         : The mailman, and builddmanager changes needed to be rolled back, for continued fixes.
[17:15] <Chex>         : codebrowse issues seemed to be address, is stable now after the mwhudson fix
[17:15] <Chex> wow, lots of typos, sorry for my poor grammar there. :/
[17:15] <Chex> anyone who can read that have any comments/questions??
[17:16] <matsubara> Chex, given that the mailman and builddmanager had to be rolled back, are we expecting another re-roll try?
[17:16] <sinzui> Chex, you can always blame me as the cause of the poor grammar
[17:16] <matsubara> Chex, hmm actually, I think Francis said they will be CP later on using the regular CP process
[17:17] <matsubara> Chex, so, nm :-)
[17:17] <Chex> matsubara: yes I just saw his email to that effect, we have opened PQM now
[17:17] <matsubara> cool. thanks Chex
[17:17] <Chex> matsubara: welcome, and thanks
[17:17] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * DBA report (stub)
[17:17] <MootBot> New Topic:  * DBA report (stub)
[17:17] <matsubara> I'll ask stub for the DBA report
[17:17] <Chex> sinzui: ;) I can write poorly on my own..
[17:17] <matsubara> [action] matsubara to ask for the DBA report
[17:18] <MootBot> ACTION received:  matsubara to ask for the DBA report
[17:18] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * QA stats of the week
[17:18] <MootBot> New Topic:  * QA stats of the week
[17:18] <matsubara> launchpad-buildd: 12
[17:18] <matsubara> malone: 10
[17:18] <matsubara> lp-dev-utils: 9
[17:18] <matsubara> launchpadlib: 9
[17:18] <matsubara> launchpad-dev-moin-theme: 6
[17:18] <matsubara> launchpad-foundations: 6
[17:18] <matsubara> soyuz: 4
[17:18] <matsubara> lp-qa-tools: 3
[17:18] <matsubara> launchpad-help-moin-theme: 3
[17:18] <matsubara> lpbuildbot: 2
[17:18] <matsubara> trac-launchpad-migrator: 2
[17:18] <matsubara> launchpad-news-wordpress-theme: 2
[17:18] <matsubara> launchpad-cscvs: 2
[17:18] <matsubara> launchpad: 1
[17:18] <matsubara> launchpad-web: 1
[17:18] <matsubara> oops-tools: 1
[17:18] <matsubara> launchpad-loggerhead: 1
[17:18] <matsubara> launchpad-documentation: 1
[17:18] <Ursinha-sprint> lp-qa-tools is my fault
[17:18] <matsubara> tickcount: 1
[17:18] <matsubara> those are the projects with untriaged bugs
[17:18] <matsubara> Code: 1
[17:18] <matsubara> Foundations: 1
[17:18] <matsubara> Registry: 0
[17:18] <matsubara> Bugs: 7 needstesting, 1 bad
[17:18] <matsubara> Translations: 2
[17:18] <matsubara> Soyuz: 2
[17:19] <matsubara> Strategy: 0
[17:19] <matsubara> and those are the untested items
[17:19] <Ursinha-sprint> left from 10.04
[17:19] <matsubara> which means some QA wasn't done in time for the release
[17:19] <matsubara> or the tags weren't updated
[17:19] <matsubara> in any case, no cookies for you guys!
[17:19] <matsubara> well, only for sinzui
[17:20] <matsubara> and jono
[17:20] <matsubara> well, jml
[17:20] <sinzui> answers and blueprints are 0 too
[17:20] <Ursinha-sprint> three cookies for sinzui
[17:20] <matsubara> hehehe
[17:20] <Ursinha-sprint> another thing to note is the number of orphaned commits this cycle
[17:21] <Ursinha-sprint> we had 86 OC in 226 commits, I wonder if all of them are really unQAable
[17:21] <Ursinha-sprint> these in devel branch: https://wiki.canonical.com/Launchpad/QATeam/OrphanedCommits/10.04-devel
[17:21] <Ursinha-sprint> 28 out of 150 in db-devel branch: https://wiki.canonical.com/Launchpad/QATeam/OrphanedCommits/10.04-db-devel
[17:22] <Ursinha-sprint> I'd like to ask all QA contacts to take these lists to your teams to check if we left untested items behind because they were orphaned commits
[17:23] <matsubara> [action] all QA contacts to take these lists to your teams to check if we left untested items behind because they were orphaned commits
[17:23] <MootBot> ACTION received:  all QA contacts to take these lists to your teams to check if we left untested items behind because they were orphaned commits
[17:23] <Ursinha-sprint> I wonder if anyone is reading that :)
[17:25] <Ursinha-sprint> rockstar, sinzui, adeuring, henninge, noodles775, hi :)
[17:25] <rockstar> Ursinha-sprint, hi
[17:25] <adeuring> Ursinha-sprint: yes, I'm making notes ;)
[17:25] <Ursinha-sprint> adeuring, thanks :)
[17:25] <henninge> matsubara: I read it now.
[17:25] <henninge> Ursinha-sprint: ^
[17:26] <Ursinha-sprint> henninge, thanks :)
[17:26] <henninge> matsubara: I only see one untested bug left, I think the other was retargeted.
[17:26] <henninge> matsubara: and this one is critical.
[17:27] <Ursinha-sprint> henninge, is the bug left really testable/landed this cycle?
[17:27] <henninge> Ursinha-sprint: it was in the re-roll (the config change) but the server were it takes effect has been reverted ... ;)
[17:27] <henninge> :(
[17:28] <Ursinha-sprint> henninge, oh :/
[17:28] <sinzui> Ursinha-sprint, I am sorry that I did not check that before. Those items were checked as a part of other bugs, or were changes to the test infrastructure
[17:28] <henninge> bug 575065
[17:28] <Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, I see
[17:28] <Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, thanks for the info
[17:29] <Ursinha-sprint> rockstar, could you take that to your team, please?
[17:29] <rockstar> Ursinha-sprint, yes.
[17:29] <Ursinha-sprint> rockstar, thanks a lot
[17:29] <sinzui> I wil ask that my team as developers or reviewer to insist on bug numbers to track why the change was made
[17:29] <Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, thanks! that'd be really great
[17:29] <sinzui> ec2 land looks to the main reason we are missing bug numbers
[17:30] <Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, I thought ec2land added automatically the bug number to the commit message
[17:30] <Ursinha-sprint> if the bug is linked, of course..
[17:30] <Ursinha-sprint> linked to the mp, that is
[17:30] <matsubara> sinzui, is it broken? why is it the main reason?
[17:31] <sinzui> I think that is correct. I see a lot of contributor branches that do not link bugs
[17:31] <sinzui> I am just noting that most of the problem branches were landed using ec2 land
[17:31] <Ursinha-sprint> sinzui, hm, interesting
[17:32] <matsubara> please, QA contacts, as developers and reviewers, remind your teammates that --fixes=lp:NNNN can be used to help out there.
[17:32] <matsubara> when a commit is made using --fixes, LP will do the right thing automagically and avoid the extra work
[17:33] <matsubara> anyway, I think that's it
[17:34] <matsubara> [TOPIC] * Proposed items
[17:34] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Proposed items
[17:34] <matsubara> there's no proposed items
[17:35] <matsubara> anything else before I close?
[17:35] <matsubara> Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See https://dev.launchpad.net/MeetingAgenda  for the logs.
[17:35] <matsubara> #endmeeting
[17:35] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:35.
[17:35] <Ursinha-sprint> thanks everyone!