[00:01] arf [00:01] maxb: It imported all revisions and then barfed saying "bzr: ERROR: The specified path is inside a branch. Specify a different URL or a different repository layout (see also 'bzr help svn-layout')." [00:02] sjamaan: I'll try to get dulwich and bzr-git updated together asap [00:02] Thanks! === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [00:03] * sjamaan tries the import again with --until=16297 [00:06] thumper, sjamaan: hi [00:07] jelmer: sjamaan was having issues with bzr-svn pulling a particular revision from subversion [00:07] jelmer: also can I take trunk of dulwich and bzr-git? [00:09] sjamaan: that svn repository appears to require authentication ? [00:10] thumper: let me check... [00:11] jelmer: user 'anonymous', password is empty [00:12] jelmer: I think the main issue here is that trunk was removed, so I'm trying to tell it to read trunk@revno [00:13] sjamaan: if trunk was removed, what are you using now? [00:13] git [00:14] I want to keep the old revision as an archive on launchpad [00:14] "old revision history", I mean [00:15] (the git import is just a regular flat file import, no history) [00:16] sjamaan: so the current svn repo is empty ? [00:16] jelmer: Other things are kept in there too [00:16] Maybe I can copy the old trunk revision to a tag that's available at HEAD [00:17] sjamaan: that would work [00:17] ok, lemme try [00:17] sjamaan: after that you should be able to use "bzr branch " to import that revision [00:17] or have launchpad import [00:20] fsck, I get a 403 forbiddden when trying that [00:20] * sjamaan asks around [00:23] sjamaan: when trying the copy you mean, or the import ? [00:23] When trying the copy [00:23] It's possible, since I'm not all-powerful in that repo ;) [00:23] I'm asking the site's maintainer === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant [00:35] No response yet. I'll see tomorrow. Time for sleep [00:35] Goodnight, and thanks for the help so far [00:37] sjamaan: g'night! [00:42] jelmer: so bzr-git and dulwich trunk? [00:44] thumper: I should probably do some basic QA, but currently distracted by the buildd-manager issue wgrant brought up [00:44] ok [02:04] hey guys. [02:04] i am not permitted to access https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas [02:06] ActionParsnip: right [02:06] ActionParsnip: I get the same, I'm not sure if its a bug or just a url that isn't meant to work [02:06] lifeless: What's the traceback? [02:06] it works, for mee. [02:06] It normally works. [02:07] can i please be granted acces [02:07] Unauthorized [02:07] spm: Well... you do have superpowers. [02:07] its the search page for the ppas :) [02:07] * [02:07] * Module zope.traversing.adapters, line 44, in traverse [02:07] __traceback_info__: (, 'displayname', []) [02:07] Unauthorized: (, 'displayname', 'launchpad.View')
[02:07] wgrant: yes; ie it's a real url. probably a bug of some sort. [02:07] lifeless: Aha. Thanks. [02:07] But that's impossible. [02:07] wgrant: /edge/launchpad-rev-9336/lib/lp/soyuz/browser/../templates/distribution-ppa-list.pt instance at 0xe4783d0> [02:08] wgrant: welcome to software [02:08] ActionParsnip: thanks for reporting this; I'll file a bug on it now. [02:09] wgrant: soyuz you think? [02:09] thanks :D [02:09] Right, but that hasn't changed recently... I am hunting. [02:09] lifeless: But Soyuz, yes. [02:09] wgrant: could it be a masked/rethrown error from the db ? [02:09] The code actually lives in Registry, but that's an accident. [02:11] Oh. [02:11] I guess it's probably because one of the last few uploads is in a disabled PPA. [02:11] spm: Can you confirm that? [02:11] One of the PPAs in the list should show up greyed out. [02:12] 2 most recent. haha [02:13] So it'll resolve itself in a few minutes, probably. [02:17] wgrant: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/576168 [02:17] Launchpad bug 576168 in soyuz "https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas broken when recent uploads are to disabled ppas [we think]" [Undecided,New] [02:23] updated with screen shot a clicky to disabled ppa for further amusement value [02:24] spm: thanks [06:56] someone wakeup? [07:02] no? ;~ [07:47] henninge, good morning :-) [07:47] easter_egg: good morning, you are up early! ;) [07:48] henninge, Im a zombie x.X [07:48] ahahaha [07:48] henninge, can you make a favor to me when my account isn't fixed? [07:54] easter_egg: I don't know yet but I will try harder ... [07:56] The brazilian ubuntu documentation team is back to active recently and I am member of this team. The team owners reactivated the mailing list. The problem is I can't join in the list on my launchpad account by reason of which you know... [07:56] This is the team: [07:56] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-br-doc [07:56] Can you join in the mailing list for me? [07:56] or know someone that can do this for me? [07:57] hello, i am trying to copy a package from one ppa to another and always getting an OOPS-1587A595 [07:57] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1587A595 [07:57] would be a great favor. [07:58] The team owners is pressing me to much [07:58] because I need to report my texts to revision [07:59] and at this time, I'm asking for someone else to report in my place [08:00] henninge, is possible to make this big favor? =] [08:08] easter_egg: done, you are subscribed ... ;) [08:08] easter_egg: I've just subbed you manually; but I wonder if perhaps the preferred email address is *preferred*? [08:09] easter_egg: the current preferred is root@....net, I suspect the google one may be preferred? [08:11] spm, no.. the root@... is preferred =] [08:11] heh; np; I shall make no further changes [08:13] henninge spm, thank you very much. This point in my side when the bug with being fixed [08:13] being fixed* [08:19] ricotz: Yes... it's most likely bug 575426 which is being worked on. [08:19] Launchpad bug 575426 in soyuz "SHA1-based copy checking breaks when there are expired sources in the target" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575426 [08:48] Could someone please assign the branch https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/chicken/main to the "chicken" team? [08:49] sjamaan: I can do that [08:49] henninge, The list can receive my emails now. I tested =] [08:49] cool [08:49] thanks o/ [08:50] done [08:50] thanks! [08:50] I managed to get the svn tree imported into a bzr tree too [08:50] And now I will sleep and dream with my account in launchpad working again x)) [08:50] henninge, what the time for clock here? [08:50] henninge, there*? [08:51] thumper: What would be the right status of a branch that got moved into another VCS? 'merged' or 'abandoned'? [08:51] sjamaan: abandoned is god [08:51] good [08:51] aight [08:52] easter_egg: sweet dreams, it's 9:51 in the morning here! ;) [08:52] easter_egg: and 4:52 where you are, right? ;-) [08:53] henninge, Here, the sun has not arrived yet. 3:52, you almost hit [08:53] easter_egg: oh, I thought all of Brazil was on the same time zone. [08:53] I have Recife in my world clock. [08:55] henninge, we have three time zones [08:55] GTM -2, GTM -3 (Official time zone, of Brazilia) and GTM -4 [08:55] Im on GTM -4 [08:56] At Manaus, Amazonas... aka hell [08:58] easter_egg: oh yeah, I heard about that (from someone living in Recife) ;) [08:58] easter_egg: that's really in the middle of nothing, isn't it? [08:59] well, If I dare to call the jungle "nothing" ... [08:59] Also, I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Time_zones_in_Brazil-en.png [09:00] henninge, Here, the normal temperatures hit of 29 to 36 Celsius [09:01] I should let you sleep now ... [09:01] henninge, Im freezing at 24 [09:01] that is even hotter than Recife, I admit. [09:01] * henninge was in Recife almost two months ago. [09:01] henninge, At Manaus, there is less forest than inside the state [09:03] Here is just a drab metropolis [09:03] But just one think don't make me happy in this town [09:03] thing* [09:04] the internet [09:04] is the world's most expensive [09:06] henninge, I pay a sum of money equivalent to US$ 150.00 for 128kB/s [09:07] And, if you ask: "The velocity is 128kB/s"? I will say: "No, maybe 60kB/s in the best times of connection" [09:08] sometimes I get 122kB/s from apt and some torrents, However it is quite rare [09:09] Hello. [09:09] I am having problems accessing http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/jaunty/scons/jaunty/files [09:09] henninge, ok... I will sleep now. I'm dying of sleepiness [09:10] thank you very much for help =] [09:10] I will back later [09:15] Actually, I seem to have problems on any project using "View branch content" [09:17] I couldn't find any planned maintenance being reported. Anyone else having problems toos? [09:26] hello. LP's revision/code browser is down [09:28] Pegaus_RPG: was this planned, or is it a technical problem that popped up? [09:30] LOSAs: ^^ [09:40] ringods: Oh I have no idea, I'm just reporting the rpboem [09:40] problem [09:41] Pegasus_RPG: I reported the same just before you joined the chat room. But it seems there is no one on support on the 6th of the month [09:42] hrm [09:43] hrm? [09:47] that's a little concerning. Ah well, not critical for us at this point. [09:48] not critical here either, but why reporting if nobody is listening? :-) [09:49] losa is a key word here [09:50] we seem to be short on admins [09:50] there is an event going on [09:50] please be patient [09:50] Also, we seem to have been rather short on CHR people of late. [09:51] * thumper is on tomorrow [10:10] Is it possible that "package accepted" messages from the PPA are also delayed due to the recent release? Or do Display Name changes affect package submissions? [10:10] I tried to dput at least 3 packages these last days and never got any mails [10:11] the command-line output always said the upload was successful [10:11] KIAaze: hi, what's your username, ppa and package? I'll try to find out in the logs. [10:20] KIAaze: so, just to confirm, your latest upload worked (you got the email?), and the previous one caused a failure (OOPS-1587PPA6) which I can't yet see as the report hasn't been synced. [10:20] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1587PPA6 [10:20] yes, the latest one worked [10:20] Great. [10:20] after changing the display name [10:21] I'm reuploading the other ones to see if it will work [10:22] Display name changes should not affect package submissions... when the error report is (hopefully) synced we can see the problem. [10:22] ok [10:22] and it is still possible to submit 8.04 builds? [10:23] because at first I though that was the problem [10:23] hardy's still very much alive [10:23] Hardy's got nearly another three years to live. [10:45] I'm getting consistent oopses trying to copy PPA packages, both on edge and normal: OOPS-1587B831 [10:45] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1587B831 [10:47] oojah: Sorry, yes that's bug 575426 which is currently being worked on. [10:47] Launchpad bug 575426 in soyuz "SHA1-based copy checking breaks when there are expired sources in the target" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575426 [10:48] noodles775: Ok, thanks. As long as you're aware of it! :) [10:48] erm, StevenK, can you update the status of that ^^ :) [11:16] just got an oops copying packages too. [11:40] hola [11:40] could it be that we have no packagesets for maverick yet? [11:41] jelmer, noodles775: ^ do you guys know? [11:42] dholbach: it could be... I'll find out what needs to be done. [11:42] thanks a bunch - bug 576242 [11:42] Launchpad bug 576242 in soyuz "Everything is "unseeded"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576242 [11:42] (it was a bug in the sponsoring tracking - every package turned out to be "not in any packageset" :-)) [11:43] * dholbach hugs noodles775 [11:43] * noodles775 hugs back [11:47] dholbach: so yes, there's a script that needs to be run to clone the pkg sets from the previous release... I've pinged cjwatson who has the power :) [11:47] awesome! [11:48] maybe it should be included in the "this is how we do releases documentation" [11:48] I can mention it to slangasek [11:50] Yep. [11:51] thanks noodles775 === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [12:41] are we expecting PPAs to be able to accept uploads for maverick yet? i seem to be getting rejected with the somewhat cryptic error below: [12:41] Rejected: [12:41] Cannot build any of the architectures requested: any [12:42] apw: Not yet. [12:42] wgrant, when might we expect that to change? whats the gating feature? [12:42] It hasn't been turned on, and turning it on is in the new release cycle process. [12:42] So it might just have not been got to yet. [12:42] Hmmm. [12:43] Hm, it looks like it should have been done days ago. [12:44] Ah, no, toolchain's not done yet. [12:44] apw: PPAs are meant to open when the new series does. Maverick is still frozen for toolchain changes. [12:45] wgrant, ahh ok waiting for toolchain freeze is it ... sigh ... thanks ... i guess i'll let the cronjob waste its time then [12:45] thanks for the info === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [12:51] while trying to install loggerhead ./serve-branches is throwing an error like this: import bzrlib.foreign ImportError: No module named foreign [12:51] sangi: #bzr may be more help. [12:52] wgrant, ok [12:52] sangi: the version of bzr you're using is too old [12:53] jelmer, bzr version is 1.5-1 [12:53] sangi: I'd recommend using at least 2.0 if you're using a recent version of loggerhead [12:53] jelmer, ok [13:09] Hi all, who/what controls the featured projects on the LP "home page"? === jelmer is now known as Guest34328 === Guest34328 is now known as ctrl === ctrl is now known as jelmer____ === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell === effie_jayx_ is now known as keffie_jayx === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [14:15] losas (mthaddon, Chex): i need to take a look at launchpad's production apache configuration in preparation for filing an rt to change it. can you induct me into this secret? [14:22] leonardr: hi, I can take a look at that for you, give me a few [14:23] chex, thanks [14:30] Hi [14:30] I have a deactivated launchpad account that I'd like to reactivate. The "Mail me my password" link doesn't appear to actually do so. [14:45] mjg59, what account? === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-sprint [15:02] cody-somerville: mjg59@codon.org.uk [15:04] mjg59, mjg59 being your launchpad id? [15:05] Chex, ping re production apache configuration [15:06] Yeah [15:06] mjg59, Reactivated your account for you. [15:06] Try using the "forgot password" to log in now. [15:10] cody-somerville: Thanks! [15:12] mjg59, No problem. Welcome back to Launchpad :-) [15:14] cody-somerville: Hm. Doesn't seem to have shown up. [15:14] How long should a forgotten password request take to turn up? [15:16] mjg59, This might be a stupid question but did you check to see if it is being caught by a spam filter? [15:16] cody-somerville: Yup. I run the MX and there's been no delivery attempts. [15:18] I used the contact user feature on your launchpad page to send you an e-mail. Lets see if you get that. [15:19] Both SSO services just sent password reset emails to me without trouble. [15:22] cody-somerville: Yes, the test email came through [15:23] FWIW, even though my account is deactivated, I'm still getting all the bug mail for things like the kernel and acpi-support [15:23] So mail from launchpad to me works in the general case [15:29] mjg59, what page are you trying to reset your page on? [15:29] launchpad.net, I click the "Forgot my password" link [15:30] https://login.launchpad.net/GJTT08xQnLkCgvGg/+forgot_password to be precise [15:33] losas: ^^ === leonardr is now known as leonardr-afk === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === leonardr-afk is now known as leonardr === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:24] Hi, I'm trying to copy packages from one of my ppas to another of my ppas (Lucid to Lucid, copy existing binaries). And I'm getting [17:24] Oops! Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience. (Error ID: OOPS-1587F1500) [17:24] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1587F1500 [17:24] I tried 2-3 times, the same. Should I retry later on? Or change some of the options (e.g. recompile)? [17:35] I also tried specifying Lucid as the series, and telling it to recompile, but again I got an oops. It looks like I'll have to reupload... :( === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [18:38] Can you approve merge proposals by email? [18:39] Meths, yes, but you need to sign the emails IIRC [18:40] Oh, okay, thanks. [19:07] hi, I have a problem: this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~konradgraefe/pidgin-birthday-reminder/trunk seems to be updating forever :( [19:09] (I noticed it some hours ago...after http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~konradgraefe/pidgin-birthday-reminder/trunk/files it is updating for more then 15 hours now) [19:19] Is launchpad down? === EdwinGrubbs is now known as Edwin-lunch [19:19] is launchpad down? [19:20] KIAaze, alkisg, we're having network issues [19:20] should be fixed in a few minutes [19:20] Thank you [19:20] ok, thanks [19:20] should be back now [19:21] Yup, it's fine [19:27] alkisg: Several copy-packages related things broke in the last rollout, your OOPS is probably bug 575426 [19:27] Launchpad bug 575426 in soyuz "SHA1-based copy checking breaks when there are expired sources in the target" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575426 [19:28] maxb, thank you, I'll watch that bug. For the moment I reuploaded to the other ppa. [19:51] do source packages for intrepid get deleted automatically? [19:52] can't get https://launchpad.net/~cae-team/+archive/ppa/+files/candystore_0.0.5.orig.tar.gz anymore [19:52] .debs are still downloadable [20:25] KIAaze: Given that that is source for a published version, the fact that that link is broken is a bug [20:26] known bug? [20:29] It might be. I am unsure [20:35] KIAaze: bug 522800. thought I'd seen it before [20:35] Launchpad bug 522800 in soyuz "Broken link in PPA package details page" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/522800 [20:38] People, is it possible to create PPAs for debian? if so, how? [20:38] thanks maxb [20:38] bilalakhtar, not possible, no [20:40] beuno: But when I go to https://launchpad.net/debian [20:40] beuno: it shows on the right hand side a link for debian PPAs. [20:41] The support is vestigial. It really shouldn't be shown [20:41] beuno: and sabdfl said something about it yesterday [20:41] beuno: I am posting what he said about it [20:43] beuno: maxb: see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/429123/ [20:44] bilalakhtar, that means it's a good idea, not that it's done [20:44] beuno: ohk [20:45] beuno: yeah, it should really be done, since launchpad should be an open development environment, not one that is limited to ubuntu [20:45] bilalakhtar, sure, it's open source, anyone can contribute a patch for that [20:46] beuno: Anyone can do that, but, the final decision HAS to be taken by canonical [20:46] Not really. This requires commitment of builder machines in the datacentre [20:46] beuno: ^ [20:46] maxb, I think that's the easiest part [20:46] bilalakhtar, I think it's taken, just needs the work done [20:47] maxb: What canonical could do is, assign a few machines for building for other distros, while appoint the rest for ubuntu [20:47] * maxb points to the *2 day* backlog of PPA builds currently and disputes beuno's suggestion that more PPA capacity is easy [20:47] maxb, lucid release [20:48] you can't use that as proof! [20:48] But one problem that comes in the way is that some distros are RHEL-based, some are Debian mased, some their own, so building for them would be difficult to set up [20:48] beuno: Even after the borrowed builders were returned, the queue is still getting *bigger* [20:49] oh. possibly because the build farm is turned off [20:49] CP in progress? [20:49] I don't know that much about the curent state these days [20:50] maxb: the major problem here are rebuilds of packages [20:50] bilalakhtar, as far as I am aware, the reason why there aren't any PPAs for Debian is because of the amount of work needed. Nobody has done it. [20:51] what the hell, why are SO many build machines disabled? [20:51] https://launchpad.net/builders [20:52] LOSAs: Is the build farm melting, or is it down for maintenance? [20:52] concerning the additional debian package building service, something like this would be nice: http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service ;) [20:52] I wonder if it's also possible to add deb repos from there [20:53] There was an issue with buildd's timing out after 30s and disabling themselves... [20:53] The problem right now is not the debian ppas, but the BUILD FARM PROBLEM! [20:53] I get this trying to push: Unable to obtain lock lp-69637264:///~psusi/ubuntu/lucid/ureadahead/mine/.bzr/branch/lock held by psusi@bazaar.launchpad.net on host crowberry [process #19287] locked 5 hours, 13 minutes ago [20:53] any idea what the deal is? [20:55] psusi, bzr break-lock lp:~psusi/ubuntu/lucid/ureadahead/mine [20:57] how do I know that the process is not still running? [20:57] PPAs are one of the reasons why I prefer lp over sf [20:57] bzr help says only to do that if you are sure [20:57] the build farm is slowly limping back to life [20:58] yeah, I'm re-enabling the ppa builders that have "No route to host" as the error. [20:59] psusi, I think I had that once too, but I was the only one using the branch. If that's your case, there shouldn't be a big risk. [20:59] yea, I am... which is why I'm wondering why it was locked by some process on host 'crowberry' [20:59] and if it says the lock is held by you, I guess it's ok to break it yourself [21:00] psusi, you may have control+c'ed or something [21:00] did a push fail? [21:00] don't think so [21:00] what is this "crowberry" host for? are ALL the branches on it? [21:00] I have no idea what "crowberry" is [21:00] psusi: did the branch appear in lp? [21:00] yes, it's the branch server [21:00] think so... haven't checked today... just did a pull earlier, made some changes, and am now trying to push [21:00] psusi, it's held on crowberry because bzr uses a smart server [21:01] it executes commands remotely [21:01] beuno: ALL the branches are on crowberry? [21:01] bilalakhtar, lets say yes [21:01] beuno: it means hundreds of GBs on that poor little server [21:01] psusi, there should be no problem in breaking the lock, there won't be anything running for 5 hours [21:01] k... [21:02] I don't think that server is poor at all, it has a very nice house [21:03] beuno: but, why on one server? that server is the central point of lp... lp can't be anything without code hosting [21:04] bilalakhtar, I think assuming that there are back up servers is a safe bet [21:04] beuno: yes, of course, backup will be there [21:05] beuno: well, that server is lucky to be in a canonical office :) [21:06] I have a question. Did Ubuntu development take place in lp from the beginning? or it was shifted here/ [21:06] ? [21:07] lp wasn't always there, but as soon as it was, Ubuntu used that, yes [21:08] Not quite. [21:08] * beuno defers to persia [21:08] LP was first used for LP: Ubuntu didn't get involved until something like bug #80. [21:08] Launchpad bug 80 in rosetta "cannot see who put in bad translation" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80 [21:09] And at that time bugzilla was used for bugs in main, up through something like bug #6000, when Ubuntu switched over to use Malone. [21:09] Launchpad bug 6000 in vice "vice 1.16-4 FTBFS" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6000 [21:09] anyway, that was long ago :) [21:09] OK, all builders are re-enabled. [21:09] noodles785: congrats, I have been tracking that by refreshing the page [21:11] well, one thing I didn't understand, sabdfl created his account on lp after bug #1 was filed. on the bug page, it is written that sabdfl filed the bug [21:11] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout) [21:11] looks like ubottu can't retrieve bug #1 info [21:11] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout) [21:20] * psusi misses ubuntu bug #1: Microsoft has a dominant market share ;) [21:20] Ubuntu bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [22:06] anybody know if it is possible to wire up LP bug tracker notification to go to CIA.vc? === thumper changed the topic of #launchpad to: http://launchpad.net/ | Read https://help.launchpad.net/ for help | Help contact: thumper | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: https://dev.launchpad.net/ [22:31] sabdfl probably has root powers on launchpad [22:56] Hi guys, who would i be able to pin about https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/canonical-identity-provider/+question/108393 [22:56] s/pin/ping === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [22:58] Has ISD stopped hiding yet? [23:28] drubin: https://edge.launchpad.net/~canonical-isd-hackers try the contact this team's owner [23:28] drubin: can't hurt [23:28] * thumper runs for coffee [23:28] thumper: ye I was hoping to polietly catch some one on IRC guess I will do the more formal stuffs [23:28] thanks [23:29] drubin: well stu@canonical.com , I'll look for his irc nick [23:30] drubin: stuartm [23:30] drubin: not sure if he sits on freenode though [23:30] drubin: also, he is on UK time [23:30] thumper: I will email him [23:30] ok [23:31] thanks [23:31] I just didn't want to spam random people about the ticket [23:31] fair enough [23:31] Why does the team running the core Ubuntu authentication service not exist publicly? [23:31] There are several questions a day about c-i-p. [23:31] Here. [23:33] security by obscurity === Ursinha-sprint is now known as Ursinha