[00:46] <dominicdinada> Hmmmmm I gots a Question :)
[00:47] <jetole> don't we all
[00:47] <dominicdinada> haha
[00:48] <dominicdinada> My Questions is how the hell do I modify webmin to work with samba
[00:48] <dominicdinada> isnt it just calling the old samba and not smdb
[00:49] <jetole> well the first step is to join the #webmin room since it's not a ubuntu package
[00:49] <jetole> someone in here may know but you will probably have a quicker response there
[00:49] <dominicdinada> 2 people in the webmin room
[00:49] <jetole> really? wow
[00:50] <jetole> I don't like webmin but thats just a personal quip
[00:50] <dominicdinada> doubt it and considering there are more chances that other users of ubuntu server have encountered this problem...............
[00:50] <dominicdinada> i dont like ebox the same as you
[00:50] <jetole> yeah maybe. Can
[00:50] <akgraner> smoser, ping - since kirkland can't lead the Ubuntu Open Week server Q&A tomorrow at 1600 UTC  - could you or zul or maybe mathiaz?
[00:50] <jetole> yeah maybe. Can't believe there are only 2 in #webmin
[00:50] <jetole> I guess I'm not the only one who doesn't like it
[00:51] <dominicdinada> ok there is 4 now sorry
[00:51] <jetole> dominicdinada: try #webmin on irc.undernet.org
[00:51] <jetole> I think thats the official channel
[00:51] <dominicdinada> ok...
[00:51] <jetole> or maybe not
[00:52] <jetole> I just googled it and not sure it's official but look there and let me know
[00:52] <dominicdinad> ok forget that
[00:53] <jetole> actually it looks like the official channel may be on freenode
[00:53] <jetole> maybe just ditch webmin
[00:53] <dominicdinad> either way some user here has prob run into the problem and gotten around it
[00:54] <cclausen> dominicdinad: I assume you you have seen !webmin and know about ebox?
[00:54] <dominicdinad> ebox is trash
[00:54] <dominicdinad> yes
[00:54] <cclausen> well, ok
[00:55] <cclausen> I consider samba trash, but whatever
[00:55] <jetole> imho webmin is a gui for people afriad of either the command line of the man page. It doesn't offer anything but a prettier interface, again, imho
[00:55] <jetole> cclausen: thats harsh
[00:55] <dominicdinad> jetole: of course i am going to learn the command line.... but for starters the web gui is alot easier
[00:55] <jetole> cclausen: people need either smb or pdc and I don't know of another product sans windows server
[00:56] <cclausen> jetole: what about the cifs server in likewise open?
[00:56] <jetole> ok, I stand corrected on one front. Haven't used likewise open
[00:57] <dominicdinad> and not to be to far off topic ubuntu-server or any linux server is awesome .... but Server2008 did alot right and that stuff is so powerful now... i guess MS is making a serious effort to compete
[00:57] <jetole> actually I kinda agree
[00:57] <jetole> I hate windows but I am moderately impressed with 2k8
[00:59] <cclausen> I assume the main reason people try to use non-Windows is the non-trivial license cost
[00:59] <dominicdinad> Yea and since its all MS related its support is easy but I am trying to learn ubuntu-server and i find that gui is easier for starters for me... there is always a shell or ssh once you get the basics down
[00:59] <cclausen> I work at a university so we get pretty good discounts
[00:59] <dominicdinad> cclausen: yeah MS is so expensive and well Mysql is the most widely used DB and of course ms wants their own DB...
[01:00] <jetole> Actually, one area where micsorsoft has really impressed me is sql server 2k8. I still have some issues with it (cannot do non transactional database if I want to, cannot provide cluster for scalability / failover cluster only, some other things) but then again I don't know any RDBMS that got it all right
[01:00] <dominicdinad> Academic Alliance gave me everything free... for personal use of course
[01:00] <cclausen> Microsoft's SQL server is significantly better for anything more than a simple web site backend
[01:01] <cclausen> MySQL doesn't even handle external authentication.  I have to create accounts for each user in MySQL.  its really annoying.  Of course with the Microsoft products one just grants access to an existing user account
[01:01] <dominicdinad> Correct like their DB for say companies using it for employee db's or a store using it for product db blah
[01:01] <cclausen> I wish I could use MySQL to replace FileMaker though..
[01:01] <cclausen> FileMaker is not fun to deal with...
[01:02] <dominicdinad> cclausen:  but anyhow like i  was saying i am trying to learn ubuntu and well need to haxor the webmin maybe
[01:02] <jetole> cclausen: yeah but again, can't do a scalable cluster and can't create a non transactional database. The transactional aspect isn't that vital but with HA on sql server it comes down to a max of 3 servers where only 2 can be used and neither at the same time
[01:02] <cclausen> dominicdinad: I think it will end badly tying wedmin on ubuntu as per the warning
[01:02] <dominicdinad> I remember using Filemaker back in highschool and that crap was horrible ....
[01:02]  * jetole agrees with cclausen @ webmin warning
[01:03]  * jetole has never used filemaker
[01:03] <cclausen> jetole: yeah, true, we have Oracle stuff for our main campus-wide systems.  That has all kinds of fancy options
[01:03] <jetole> cclausen: I think linux handles mass configuration in clusters much better then active directory (see cfengine (although I wouldn't) or or preferably puppet)
[01:03] <dominicdinad> I have not used oracle in over a decade myself either :(
[01:04] <cclausen> but for my purposes, a single database server that uses AD permissions, MSFT SQL works fine.  Account management is the only big issue I have with MySQL actually.
[01:04] <jetole> ah I wish I had oracle. I haven't used it but I do use ocfs file system for clustered shared disks
[01:04] <cclausen> jetole: really? group policy scales across the world
[01:04] <dominicdinad> cclausen: with Server 2k8 yea
[01:04] <jetole> cclausen: perhaps but when it comes to configuring applications it becomes limited
[01:05] <cclausen> jetole: not really, just write your own templates for registry changes
[01:05] <jetole> yeah thats where
[01:05] <jetole> lol
[01:05] <cclausen> yep, dealing with FireFox is a problem
[01:05] <jetole> no. If you become familiar with puppet then you will see the difference
[01:06] <cclausen> there is no MSI version and no easy way to enforce policies like with IE
[01:06] <jetole> I run a mixed environment windows and linux
[01:07] <cclausen> cfengine, bcfg2, and puppet still manage individual config files though.  this is not as granular as having group policy change ONE specific config item in teh registry on a case by case basis
[01:07] <cclausen> and then there are management systems for Mac OS ...
[01:08] <jetole> cclausen: well puppet can be granular but when it comes to application files, for the most part you are right
[01:08] <jetole> puppet == OSX
[01:08] <jetole> afaik puppet is everything sans windows
[01:08] <cclausen> well, yeah
[01:08] <cclausen> I meant more end-user config management for OS X with Open Directory
[01:09] <jetole> but I don't run OSX anywhere
[01:10] <jetole> I'd honestly like a single sign on system for windows, linux and everything else that isn't windows dependent
[01:11] <jetole> samba pdc is a joke though and samba 4 has been in alpha state forever even though MS is contributing to it
[01:11] <dominicdinad> jetole: i honestly thought that 2k8 addressed that I could take the time to check my textbook
[01:11] <jetole> dominicdinad: addressed what?
[01:11] <dominicdinad> of course if it was a win domain controller
[01:12] <jetole> well I can install a pdc through samba but that's old school
[01:12] <jetole> or I can install a 2k3/2k8 domain controller through samba 4 if I want to use alpha code
[01:12] <dominicdinad> addressed a single login system ofcourse that would only be if it was under a win domain
[01:12] <dominicdinad> :)
[01:12] <dominicdinad>    blah gotta learn samba
[01:13] <dominicdinad> I just wanna create like 4 shares god
[01:13] <jetole> I don't know how I can add a user to linux and then plug windows into the lan and have it auth against windows except through a samba pdc
[01:13] <dominicdinad> using my user name login to access with full write priv.....
[01:13] <jetole> dominicdinad: how long have you been working on this?
[01:14] <dominicdinad> of and on since lastnight.... took a break and finally hooked up a thumb and copied the files to the server where i wanted them to be
[01:14] <dominicdinad> but:(
[01:15] <jetole> too long. Time to pick up the samba manual and do this by hand
[01:15] <jetole> check out #samba. They can help direct you to some good readmes
[01:15] <dominicdinad> yeah I guess I see what their samples are
[01:16] <cclausen> jetole: one can use some non-standard stuff on windows to allow for LDAP and Kerberos logins
[01:16] <cclausen> see pgina for instance
[01:16] <jetole> dominicdinad: but yeah. been 24 hours working on installing the gui that isn't needed. thats too long
[01:16] <jetole> cclausen: I know of it
[01:17] <cclausen> if you need a cross-platfomr filesystem, I'd look at OpenAFS
[01:18] <dominicdinad> no it has been installed... but Then i was looking at other options for the gui then... I read the how tos but I don't get why shares need to have specific users written into the smb.conf file why wont it just inherit user groups etc
[01:18] <jetole> I would look at OpenAFS more closely first
[01:18] <dominicdinad> brb
[01:18] <jetole> dominicdinad: don't know. I don't use samba but I have set it up before
[01:19] <jetole> cclausen: openAFS is not a general purpose file system
[01:19] <jetole> you need to know openAFS and need to justify why you are installing it first
[01:20] <cclausen> jetole: actually, it IS a general purpose filesystem.  what general case are you thinking of does it not handle?
[01:20] <cclausen> or do you simply mean native support from OS vendors?
[01:21] <jetole> that afaik it's read only on all openAFS clients
[01:21] <cclausen> uhh, no
[01:21] <cclausen> that would be wrong
[01:21] <cclausen> replicas are read-only
[01:21] <jetole> well a admin in openAFS mentioned that to me last week
[01:21] <cclausen> but you just don't replicate things like user home directories
[01:21] <cclausen> an admin in #openafs ?
[01:22] <cclausen> (I am one such person)
[01:22] <jetole> oh so you're saying like install openafs on my thumb drive for moving files between computers
[01:22] <cclausen> its a network file system
[01:22] <cclausen> would you use samba for that?
[01:22] <jetole> maybe it was you who mentioned it.
[01:22] <jetole> yes but samba is NAS.
[01:23] <jetole> I don't follow the correlation but to be honest I don't care right now
[01:23] <jetole> no offense but I really don't. I need to solve a preseed problem
[01:24] <cclausen> oh, I am not offended
[01:25] <cclausen> I am searching through the channel logs though.  if someone (including myself) provide wrong info, that should probably be fixed
[01:37] <dominicdinad> ok how would i share /var/www so that the share requires the user to login. so that it inherits any of the system users which have access via group ? can someone pastebin an example
[01:49] <dominicdinad> !domain
[01:53] <jetole> dominicdinad: #samba
[01:53] <dominicdinad> already there
[01:55] <dominicdinad> Ahhh dead channels
[01:56] <dominicdinad> ebox != active, samba != active = ubuntu-server has the answers ::P
[01:58] <bogeyd6> lol
[01:58] <bogeyd6> care to paste your original problem?
[01:58] <bogeyd6> dominicdinad, ?
[01:59] <dominicdinad> hang on
[02:02] <zul> akgraner: sure
[02:02] <bluethundr_> what means the 'A' in an aptitude search?        "i A courier-imap"
[02:02] <akgraner> zul, awesome :-)
[02:02] <zul> akgraner: if smoser can take the cloud questiosn
[02:03] <akgraner> zul, I hope smoser will see your request :-)
[02:03] <zul> akgraner: as do i
[02:03] <akgraner> I'll get you both added to classbot :-)
[02:03] <zul> akgraner: when is it again?
[02:04] <akgraner> 1600 UTC tomorrow
[02:04] <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[02:04] <zul> akgraner: whats that EST?
[02:04] <akgraner> 1200
[02:05] <zul> akgraner: sure
[02:05] <akgraner> well right now we are in EDT
[02:05] <zul> same difference ;)
[02:06] <akgraner> :-)
[02:06] <akgraner> yeah the kernel session kicks off at 1100 EDT
[02:06] <akgraner> followed by server :-)
[02:07] <zul> coolio
[02:07] <jetole> I'm running the install of a server in a vm (kvm via libvirt on my workstation). Does anyone know anyway I can somehow mount or view the installers filesystem from my workstation?
[02:08] <akgraner> zul - classbot makes it easy
[02:08] <akgraner> when you want to post a question - you pm classbot with !q
[02:08] <zul> akgraner: sounds good...ill dodge the questions then ;)
[02:08] <zul> gotcha
[02:08] <akgraner> if you want to answer it you pm with !y
[02:08] <akgraner> or !n
[02:08] <akgraner> and they show up in -classroom from -chat
[02:09] <zul> okies
[02:09] <zul> i should be saving this then ;)
[02:09] <zul> bbl
[02:09] <akgraner> I'll be voiced as well
[02:09] <akgraner> k thanks
[02:12] <dominicdinad> bogeyd6:  sorry had a collect call and well I am trying to create a share
[02:12] <dominicdinad> ok how would i share /var/www so that the share requires the user to login. so that it inherits any of the system users which have access via group ? can someone pastebin an example
[02:12] <bogeyd6> actually quite simple
[02:13] <bogeyd6> dominicdinad, in  your samba configuration you put security = user
[02:13] <bluethundr_> what package provides libauthmysql.so ?
[02:13] <dominicdinad> ok
[02:13] <dominicdinad> and that inherits the users read write access?
[02:14] <bogeyd6> it will require  a username/password of the local system and inherits if the user is part of the group www-data
[02:14] <bogeyd6> you need to change any perms in /var/www/ to be group r/w
[02:14] <bogeyd6> dominicdinad, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba#File%20Sharing%20%28Basics%29
[02:14] <dominicdinad> ok now I was working with webmin before and manually changed the permission to 777 of the www dir and it stopped working
[02:15] <dominicdinad> i read that but was unsure
[02:15] <bogeyd6> 777 is everyone r/w
[02:16] <bogeyd6> depending on your setup you might want 770 in /var/www/
[02:16] <dominicdinad> so it would make sense that server blocked it until the r/w was set to a safe mode
[02:16] <dominicdinad> ok
[02:16] <bluethundr_> why when I aptitude search courier-authlib-mysql I get nothing, nada, zilch?
[02:17] <bogeyd6> bluethundr_, which version
[02:17] <BluDragyn> Is upgrading from hardy lts to lucid lts (server on both) as simple as "Sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[02:17] <bluethundr_> hardy.. 6.0.6 .. management decision to use this version
[02:17] <bogeyd6> bluethundr_, sudo apt-cache search courier-authlib-mysql
[02:17] <bogeyd6> thats a horrible decision
[02:18] <bluethundr_> agreed
[02:18] <ScottK> bluethundr_: No.
[02:18] <bluethundr_> that apt-cache turns up nothing
[02:18] <dominicdinad> bogeyd6: there is no security line in the global that i can see so i just append it to the last line correct?
[02:18] <dominicdinad> nevermind it is there
[02:18] <bluethundr_> ScottK: no, what?
[02:18] <bogeyd6> dominicdinad, near the top, you should do a search for "security"
[02:18] <dominicdinad> I see the line their hmmm
[02:18] <bogeyd6> bluethundr_, its not on your system
[02:19] <ScottK> bluethundr_: No it's not just a matter of apt-get dist-upgrade.
[02:19] <bluethundr_> ScottK: ah ok.
[02:19] <dominicdinad> I know the users I am logged in as is apart of the www-data group
[02:19] <ScottK> Hardy is 8.04 in any case.
[02:19] <bluethundr_> whoops
[02:19] <ScottK> Are you on Dapper, 6.06 or Hardy 8.04?
[02:19] <bogeyd6> courier-authlib-mysql is not available in 6.06
[02:19] <bluethundr_> 6.06 is dapper,
[02:19] <bluethundr_> I am on dapper
[02:19] <bogeyd6> dominicdinad, can you pastebin your smb.conf ?
[02:20] <bluethundr_> bogeyd6: thanks for the tip.. I guess I can download it
[02:20] <bogeyd6> bluethundr_, courier-authlib-mysql is not available, you will need to steal another package from the earliest release and attempt to force it to install without requirements
[02:20] <ScottK> bluethundr_: LTS to LTS upgrade to Lucid, 10.04 is not recommended until 10.04.1 comes out in ~3 months.
[02:20] <bluethundr_> bogeyd6: ah, good idea
[02:20] <dominicdinad> bogeyd6: will try
[02:20] <bogeyd6> ScottK, he already stated he cant change the 6.06
[02:20] <bluethundr_> ScottK: good tip
[02:21] <ScottK> OK.
[02:21] <bogeyd6> 6.06 is end of life bluethundr_ :(
[02:21] <bluethundr_> bogeyd6: gotcha!
[02:21] <bogeyd6> !pastebin | dominicdinad
[02:21] <bogeyd6> :)
[02:22] <dominicdinad> bogeyd6: Im connected via SSH :/
[02:22] <bogeyd6> dominicdinad, putty?
[02:22] <ScottK> bogeyd6 and bluethundr_: 6.06 has another year and a month of support for servers.  It's not end of life.
[02:22] <dominicdinad> yes
[02:22] <dominicdinad> !putty
[02:22] <bogeyd6> ScottK, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[02:22] <dominicdinad> !scp
[02:22] <bluethundr_> ScottK: understood. thanks for the clarification
[02:23] <bogeyd6> dominicdinad, please just sudo cat /etc/samba/smb.conf and then highlight the text press cntrl + c then go to pastebin and paste it
[02:23] <ScottK> bogeyd6: That page says June 2011 (Server) as EOL for Dapper server.
[02:24] <bogeyd6> I stand corrected, you are right ScottK
[02:25] <bogeyd6> bluethundr_, look what i found, http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/courier-authmysql
[02:26] <bluethundr_> bogeyd6: dude, you rool! \m/
[02:26] <ScottK> Universe wasn't enabled by default in Dapper.
[02:26] <ScottK> You have to enable it before packages from it are visible.
[02:27] <bluethundr_> bogeyd6: muchas gracias and a margarita for your cinco de mayo
[02:27] <bluethundr_> ScottK: excellent
[02:32] <ChmEarl> on lucid server, I fire wget from /etc/rc.local but network is not up yet
[02:33] <ChmEarl> so I think maybe fire an #at script to delay now+30 seconds
[02:33] <ChmEarl> by the time I get the login, network is up
[02:35] <ChmEarl> any suggestions? the rc.local works on karmic on the same box - network comes up a few seconds earlier on karmic
[02:35] <dominicdinada> bogeyd6, http://pastebin.com/cuCCKHnz
[02:36] <bogeyd6> dominicdinada, starting on line 348
[02:36] <dominicdinada> ok
[02:37] <ChmEarl> is it a bad idea to build an #at job with shell via rc.local
[02:37] <bogeyd6> dominicdinada, changes submitted
[02:37] <dominicdinada> ok
[02:37] <bogeyd6> http://pastebin.com/NHb9fZJk
[02:38] <bogeyd6> line 351 being most important
[02:40] <dominicdinada> correct that is what I was asking about the user inheritance ? or just add user1,user2
[02:40] <dominicdinada> or security = user
[02:40] <bogeyd6> you want to deinfe a create mask?
[02:40] <bogeyd6> well security = user allows you to authenticate
[02:41] <dominicdinada> ok I will try adding 2 users that are created on here
[02:41] <bogeyd6> see like create mask = 0774
[02:42] <bogeyd6> would allow any users in the group and including the owner to r/w the files
[02:45] <jetole> does anyone know how to see all options of a d-i line in preseed. For example, right now I am looking at d-i partman-auto/init_automatically_partition and I don't know what possible values I can place there are
[02:46] <dominicdinada> so i could add the create mask to the smb.conf in that share?
[02:46] <dominicdinada> or chmod the folder
[02:48] <dominicdinada> ok my www folder is owned by www-data.... the file permissions are drwxrwx--- which is 773 right ?
[02:48] <dominicdinada> eer 770
[02:53] <ScottK> jetole: There is and #ubuntu-installer channel.  IDK if they take support questions in there or not, but I expect most people who'd know are either recovering from last week's release or getting ready for next week's Ubuntu Developer Summit.
[02:53] <ScottK> is and/is an
[02:54] <jetole> ScottK: thanks
[02:54] <jetole> didn't know said channel was there
[02:56] <ChmEarl> wow problem solved. Its easy to script the #at cmd with here-is literal
[03:46] <smoser> akgraner, i'm actually on a swap day tomorrow. I dont have any big plans at the moment. i'll see if I can't make it in. no promiess though :-(
[03:48] <akgraner> smoser, ok  - any suggestions for who else can field cloud questions?  zul ^^^
[03:49] <akgraner> smoser, appreciate it if you can - but enjoy some time off  - :-D  no worries
[03:49] <smoser> i dont know :-(
[03:50] <akgraner> smoser, okie dokie :-)
[04:24] <AdamDV2> Does anyone have a working mysql+Apache solution?
[04:31] <twb> !anyone
[04:31]  * ajmitch would assume that there are a few people with a working apache & mysql
[04:32] <twb> Probably mysql.com and apache.org do, at least :-/
[04:32] <ajmitch> mysql.com probably runs on an oracle DB by now
[04:33] <twb> Server: Apache/2.2.13 (Fedora)
[04:33] <twb> Does Oracle even support Fedora (as opposed to RHEL)?
[04:34] <AdamDV2> Okay, lets rephrase.
[04:34] <AdamDV2> Can anyone link me to a guide to getting apache work with mysql auth?
[04:34] <twb> AdamDV2: did you try the Ubuntu server guide?
[04:35] <AdamDV2> I'm not looking to install mysql+apache
[04:35] <AdamDV2> I'm looking on how to setup libapache2-mod-mysql, so that httpauth can be verified against a mysql db.
[04:35] <twb> Oh, I missed "auth", sorry
[04:35] <ajmitch> but you want libapache2-mod-auth-mysql ?
[04:35] <AdamDV2> So far, it looks like its been broken since gutsy.
[04:36] <AdamDV2> s/libapache2-mod-mysql/libapache2-mod-auth-mysql
[04:37]  * ajmitch sees no bugs open against it
[04:40] <twb> AdamDV2: if there's a specific issue that you're experiencing, you should report it.
[04:42] <AdamDV2> Bug report is already filed.
[04:42] <AdamDV2> It was filed back in '07, and has never been fixed
[04:43] <ajmitch> bug # ?
[04:44] <AdamDV2> 150649
[04:45] <ajmitch> yeah, that's for apache 1.x
[04:46] <ajmitch> probably why noone saw it
[04:47]  * AdamDV2 facepalms
[05:10] <Kaprenakis> Question about installing webmin
[05:11] <lifeless> "don't" ?
[05:19] <ajmitch> and he didn't even stay around long enough to see that
[05:22] <lifeless> I know
[05:22] <lifeless> I would not have said it otherwise ;)
[05:27] <AdamDV2> Webmin is now not advocated?
[05:28] <ajmitch> it never has been
[05:30] <AdamDV2> I've never liked it, but I notice alot on UF love it.
[05:32] <bluethundr_> I found an ubuntu deb of courier-authlib-mysql which I _really need_ to get this imap server authenticating. I tried installing it with dpkg -i to no avail... http://pastebin.com/mWK9AJxq
[05:32] <twb> Nothing people like is any good
[05:32] <bluethundr_> I would appreciate some help getting past this error
[05:32] <twb> Hm, I meant: Nothing is any good if other people like it.  -- Diesel Sweeties #861
[05:33] <lukehasnoname> I remember someone suggesting MariaDB take over MySQL as the default MySQL-fork database. Any actual chatter about that?
[05:33] <twb> bluethundr_: you are getting that error because you're trying to dpkg -i "some deb I found", rather than using the normal apt infrastructure.
[05:33] <twb> lukehasnoname: you'd have to talk to #mysql about that.
[05:34] <lukehasnoname> I mean, in Ubuntu
[05:34] <bluethundr_> well, management has mandated standardization on a rather old 6.06 dapper install... apt knows not of this package sadly with this release
[05:34] <twb> lukehasnoname: as for me, I've yet to see a use case for MySQL for which postgres or sqlite wasn't more compelling.
[05:34] <bluethundr_> unless there is a repo I can add that will know of it
[05:35] <twb> bluethundr_: you need to explain to management that "installing some shit I found" will totally invalidate the point of sticking to an old release.
[05:35] <twb> bluethundr_: but you might find that dapper-backports has what you need (if you're allowed to use it).
[05:35] <bluethundr_> twb: I will.. tho they are hard headed and illiterate on these issues
[05:36] <bluethundr_> yes I can use backports as long as I don't go to a newer release
[05:36] <twb> Hmm, can rmadison check foo-backports?
[05:37] <ScottK> Yes
[05:37] <twb> What's the URL?  My (Debian) rmadison has -uubuntu and -ubpo, but no -uubuntu-bpo
[05:38] <ScottK> It's included in the regular Ubuntu results
[05:38] <twb> OK, so I can assume that courier-authlib-mysql isn't available in dapper-backports
[05:38] <ScottK> Try clamav if you want a package known to have packages in backports
[05:38] <twb> Thanks.
[05:39] <twb> ScottK: yup, I see it.
[05:39] <bluethundr_> ah! with backports I now see this entry with an aptitude search... BB  courier-authlib-mysql  what means the BB if I may ask?
[05:40] <bluethundr_> I also see this entry: ci  courier-authmysql
[05:40] <twb> bluethundr_: that's the thing you just tried to install.  BB means "broken, broken"
[05:40] <bluethundr_> twb: ah, understood
[05:41] <twb> IIRC ci means configured, installed.  "dpkg -l foo" will tell you the exact mapping
[05:41] <bluethundr_> now I see:  c   courier-authlib-mysql  and ci  courier-authmysql
[05:41] <bluethundr_> ah ok
[05:41] <bluethundr_> thank you
[05:43] <bluethundr_> dpkg -l tells me this: http://pastebin.com/G0C45a1V
[05:44] <twb> So "rc" means "Desired=Remove, Status=Config-files"
[05:44] <twb> i.e. it has been removed, but its config files remain (not purged).
[05:46] <bluethundr_> oh man.. I just did a purge on courier-authlib-mysql and then tried to reinstall it.. but aptitude is not finding it now for some reason
[05:49] <bluethundr_> why would purging this package cause apt to no longer know about it? how can I make it aware of it again?
[05:54] <ScottK> It won't.
[05:57] <bluethundr_> ScottK: purging makes apt permanently unaware of an app?
[05:57] <ScottK> No
[05:57] <ScottK> It doesn't affect that.
[05:58] <bluethundr_> ScottK: ok, then I am unclear as to why after purging courier-auth-mysql issuing aptitude search courier that package no longer turns up as a result
[05:58] <cclausen> bluethundr_: its in universe.  do you have that repo enabled?
[05:59] <bluethundr_> cclausen: I believe so, let me check
[06:01] <bluethundr_> yes I do have deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[06:02] <twb> bluethundr_: apt only knew about that package because you partially installed it out-of-band with dpkg -i
[06:02] <twb> cclausen: he's on dapper
[06:03] <bluethundr_> twb: oh I see
[06:03] <bluethundr_> so it appears that I am stuck with the problem of finding a dapper repository that is aware of this library
[06:04] <twb> bluethundr_: unless you want to learn about how packaging works in dpkg/apt, you probably won't get anywhere.
[06:04] <bluethundr_> twb: I am willing to learn.
[06:04] <twb> Even if you did know that stuff, you might find that it's practically impossible to get <new package> onto <old release>.  I once tried to do that with mysql for a similarly stupid customer.
[06:05] <bluethundr_> twb: right.. understood... it is very trying dealing with untechnical folks who describe themselves as "able to speak the language of tech" as in my particular case
[06:07] <twb> BTDTBTTS
[06:21] <ScottK> Note that Dapper ships with Courier 0.47 and the oldest courier-authlib-mysql we have in the archive is from Courier 0.60.1.  There is essentially a zero percent chance of those working together.
[06:21] <ScottK> If you hope to do this at all, I'd grab the courier source package from Hardy and try to build it on Dapper.
[06:21]  * ScottK is off to bed, so good luck.
[06:23] <cclausen> bluethundr_: do you really want the courier-authmysql package?
[06:23] <cclausen> that appears to be in dapper
[06:25] <cclausen> bluethundr_: the actual deb might also still exist in: /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:27] <deslector>  hi, anyone here with webdav experience?
[06:27] <twb> !anyone
[06:28] <deslector> he he, ok...
[06:29] <deslector> have you had good experience using webdav (lucid server, apache dav module) from windows XP through the Internet?
[06:51] <clintb> deslector: I've used webdav w/ mod_dav in a custom built apache ... not on Lucid. Are you having issues w/ ubuntu or just curious about mod_dav?
[06:52] <deslector> clintb, just curious... never used it before, and want to know what to expect if I put the server in production, he he
[06:56] <clintb> Its pretty much the reference implementation for webdav so it works very well.
[06:58] <deslector> clintb, is not the dav module i
[06:58] <deslector> 'm worried about... is the windows xp clients :-)
[06:58] <clintb> well what are you going to have them doing?
[06:59] <deslector> clintb, basically, I want to have a shared folder
[06:59] <clintb> oh, you know you can use samba for that, right?
[06:59] <deslector> clintb, yes, but the clients and the server are not in the same LAN
[06:59] <deslector> clintb, they will be using Internet to communicate
[07:00] <deslector> clintb, I know I can make samba work through firewalls, etc. but seems more complicated
[07:00] <deslector> clintb, and I read webdav was supposed to be a good replacement for that scenario
[07:02] <clintb> Yeah it works.
[07:04] <deslector> clintb, ok, thanks for the info :-)
[08:10] <forger> Hi, I've tried to install 10.04 on raid1 + lvm (/dev/md0 is /dev/sda1 + /dev/sdb1 (ext4, root); /dev/md1 is /dev/sda2 + /dev/sdb2 (swap) and /dev/md3 is lvm), and everything seems configured ok until reboot - cat /proc/mdstat shows two first raid arrays as degraded, without any member disks and /dev/md3 is rebuilding with /dev/sda and /dev/sdb as members.
[08:25] <lambrecht> mornin
[08:27] <coffeedude> morning lambrecht
[08:56] <jwoods> any way to resize a live ext3 partition?
[09:07] <twb> Under what circumstances would a Hardy system boot enough to be sshable, succeed in mounting swap and /boot by UUID, fail to mount /home and /srv by UUID, and return "unknown" when I run runlevel(1)?
[09:07] <twb> Make that runlevel(8).
[09:07] <twb> jwoods: you can grow an ext3 filesystem online, but you cannot shrink it.
[09:25] <jwoods> twb: thought it was something like that
[09:30] <twb> Thus, my boss has *finally* learned not to allocate 100% of the LVM to a single root filesystem.
[09:32] <jwoods> heh
[10:14] <tdn> I am trying to make an initrd with an init script that boots up and does the following: boots up; partitions the harddisk to one big partition; mkfs a root fs; mounts this fs; rsyncs some basic files to this partition; installs boot loader; reboots. I have created a proof of concept initrd with an init script that just echoes hello world and the exits. How can I partition the disk from this init script? How do I get acccess to tools such as fdisk
[11:19] <PC_Nerd101> Hi,  is there any application that will change the mirror that aptitude uses to get updates?  Package manager on desktop version has a drop down from memory...  so is there an equiv on server ?
[11:20] <Jeeves_> PC_Nerd101: 'vi' :)
[11:22] <kamil> Hi! I've got problem with apache
[11:23] <kamil> i have Listen on 80 but it dosen't listen on port 80 on nmap localhost port 80 it dosen't show and from external i have 80/tcp   closed http
[11:23] <kamil> someone have idea what is wronh?
[11:23] <kamil> wrong?
[11:25] <PC_Nerd101> jeeves: Righteo... I might try a sed solution as an alternative.
[12:11] <jetole> Hey guys. unlike 9.04, 10.04 installs puppet with a no run set in the /etc/default/puppet. Now I install my OS via preseed and in 9.10 when puppet was run it automatically configured the OS however thats not happening in 10.04. Does anyone have some suggestions on how to have puppet start on new installs that can be setup from preseeding?
[12:20] <zul> morning
[14:19] <bluethundr_> I am trying to delete a record from a table in MySQL but failing to do so for some odd reason: http://pastebin.com/PWE5SirC
[14:19] <Pici> bluethundr_: get rid of that * between DELETE and FROM
[14:20] <bluethundr_> Pici: That did it... thank you! ;)
[14:30] <mianosm> Hey would you guys mind looking at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1474414
[14:37] <bogeyd6>  mianosm https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[14:38] <bogeyd6> same concept
[14:38] <bogeyd6> but you can build up from the cd and skip the embarassing archive timeouts
[14:39] <mianosm> Not really embarrassing - just odd that you _have_ to have a network connection in order to install an OS.
[14:39] <bogeyd6> it auto checks for updates
[14:39] <mianosm> So I need to build my own ISO to install an OS offnet?
[14:39] <bogeyd6> and really the norm is you have an internet connection
[14:39] <bogeyd6> no
[14:39] <bogeyd6> you just do a command line install
[14:39] <bogeyd6> edit the apt sources
[14:39] <bogeyd6> then apt-get install whatever you want
[14:40] <mianosm> I'm fairly sure the command line install also had the same hangup, I will try again though.
[14:40] <fauxhawk> anyone else having problems installing 10.04 without an internet connection?
[14:40] <mianosm> fauxhawk: If the target PC has no internet access, you may want to prepare an AptOnCD iso before to continue.
[14:41] <mianosm> I'm reading that as: Create your own iso, as the alternate/server installs require a network connection.
[14:41] <fauxhawk> i don't have cdroms on these servers...
[14:43] <cclausen> fauxhawk: so how are you installing then?
[14:43] <failover> pendrive !
[14:43] <fauxhawk> cclausen: usb and UNetbootin
[14:43] <mianosm> I tried the pendrive way of creating a usb as well, it can't find the cdrom or drivers for the nonexistent cdrom.
[14:44] <failover> mianosm, you don't need, there is a workaround !
[14:45] <fauxhawk> failover: what is that
[14:45] <fauxhawk> failover: I'm having the same issue as mianosm
[14:45] <failover> you can pass a options too start install looking for files in usb instead cdrom !
[14:46] <fauxhawk> failover: cool story bro, what are they
[14:46] <failover> i will find, givme a moment !
[14:47] <fauxhawk> failover: awesome!
[14:47] <failover> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[14:48] <failover> go to "Know Issues" section
[14:48] <failover> also use "usb-creator-gtk" instead of unetbootin !
[14:48] <failover> If you get "Incorrect CD-ROM detected" error on detection stage, reboot, press F6 and then ESC to go to manual boot line editing, and add the option 'cdrom-detect/try-usb=true
[14:48] <cclausen> kamil: could a firewall be blocking port 80?  does port 80 show in netstat -ant output?
[14:49] <fauxhawk> failover: the issue isn't detecting the CDROM, it's that the installer is looking for a network mirror
[14:49] <fauxhawk> i do not have a network connection on the server
[14:49] <fauxhawk> *internet connection
[14:49] <fauxhawk> it's in a test server farm
[14:51] <failover> fauxhank, my tip is for mianosm !
[14:51] <fauxhawk> failover: mianosm and i are having the same issue
 I tried the pendrive way of creating a usb as well, it can't find the cdrom or drivers for the nonexistent cdrom.
[14:53] <fauxhawk> oh ok
[14:54] <mianosm> failover: I'll give it a try, do you have a link for the usb-creater.exe I can't seem to find the one that is mentioned in the documentation.
[14:55] <failover> usb-creator-gtk comes with ubuntu !
[14:55] <mianosm> I need usb-creator.exe
[14:55] <failover> fauxhawk, you can use a pendrive to install ubuntu-server from a dvd iso maybe !
[14:55] <mianosm> Sadly, I have to use exe's and such for work.
[14:56] <ScottK> mianosm: It's on both the Ubuntu web site and pretty much all the current ISOs.
[14:56] <mianosm> ScottK: can you paste in a link, I'm really bad at Internets today I guess. :(
[14:56] <failover> mianosm, i don't think there is a usb-creator-gtk for windows, but you can run from a livecd :)
[14:56] <ScottK> Sorry, I don't know where exactly.
[14:56] <ScottK> failover: There is a usb-creator for Windows.
[14:57] <mianosm> I don't know where either - the 10.04 iso definitely did not have any *.exe in it when I unzipped it.
[14:57] <cclausen> tdn: you probably need to either copy the tools you need (and dependencies) into an initrd.  Or, I would look at making your own modified installer and using that instead.
[14:57] <failover> Ok, now i think there is a usb-creator-gtk, i just never saw one !
[14:57] <failover> :)
[14:57] <failover> * for  windows !
[14:58] <ScottK> I'm not sure if it's on the server ISO.  I know it's on desktop and kubuntu.
[14:58] <mianosm> I find it odd that alpha and beta went by without anyone having this issue. :( Setting up cluster nodes with NFS I would think would replicate this issue.
[15:00] <fauxhawk> ScottK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Live_USB_creator
[15:00] <fauxhawk> ScottK: says there is not windows version but it is planned
[15:01] <ScottK> fauxhawk: Then it needs to be updated.
[15:02] <failover> :)
[15:03] <fauxhawk> ScottK: cool, someone should update it and point to the windows versin
[15:03] <fauxhawk> *version
[15:03] <ScottK> I agree.  Someone should.
[15:28] <SlipperyChicken> we're deploying a new server into a data center.  i'm torn between using RAID10 or using LVM over a bunch of RAID-1's
[15:29] <SlipperyChicken> all opinions welcomed. :)
[15:30] <SlipperyChicken> it's going to be your basic LAMP with postfix and file storage.  we'll want to grow storage as needed.
[15:44] <_ruben> SlipperyChicken: I'd use LVM either way .. and if it's truly hardware raid, I'd go for raid10
[15:44] <_ruben> then again, it also depends on the capabilities of your raid controller
[15:44] <bogeyd6> does it _ruben , does it?
[15:45] <bogeyd6> its probably fakeraid and we all know how linux feels about that
[15:45] <bogeyd6> and i quote
[15:45] <_ruben> whether or not it support growing your luns
[15:45] <bogeyd6> FakeRAID is not supported by Ubuntu. Trying to install Ubuntu on such a partition could easily result in the loss of all your data.
[15:45] <SlipperyChicken> it's a supermicro board coming in.
[15:46] <_ruben> i would never recommend fakeraid
[15:46] <bogeyd6> yah see
[15:46] <bogeyd6> fakeraid
[15:46] <SlipperyChicken> it's got a MegaRaid controller on it apperently.
[15:46] <_ruben> doesnt have to be .. we have supermicro systems with adaptec hardware raid controllers in em
[15:46] <bogeyd6> AOC-LPZCR2  is a real raid card from super micro
[15:47] <bogeyd6> Problem is, if the raid card is not a completely separate (plug that sh*t in) card it is fakeraid IMHO
[15:47] <bogeyd6> any integrated raid is too risky to trust in production, again IMHO
[15:47] <SlipperyChicken> they're just a seperate SATA controller that the driver connects do, arn't they ?
[15:48] <SlipperyChicken> to *
[15:48] <SlipperyChicken> SUPERMICRO MBD-X8DTi-LN4F-O Dual LGA 1366 Intel 5520 Extended ATX Dual Intel Xeon 5500 and 5600 Series Server Motherboard
[15:48] <_ruben> check the specs, when in doubt, go with software raid
[15:48] <SlipperyChicken> if that helps
[15:48] <bogeyd6> its fakeraid :(
[15:48] <SlipperyChicken> that's what we're thinking, i'll check.
[15:49] <_ruben> either way, i'd keep the "raid" stuff in the same place, so no raid0 (hw or mdadm) + striping in lvm, just do it all in hw/mdadm then
[15:49] <Pici> software raid is fakeraid
[15:49] <bogeyd6> ubottu disagress
[15:50] <_ruben> i'd say fakeraid is (an implementation of) software raid .. software raid doesnt have to be fakeraid
[15:50] <SlipperyChicken>     *  Intel ICH10R SATA 3.0Gbps Controller
[15:50] <SlipperyChicken>     * RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 support (Windows)
[15:50] <SlipperyChicken>     * RAID 0, 1, 10 support (Linux)
[15:50] <_ruben> in my book atleast
[15:50] <SlipperyChicken> mind the flood.
[15:50] <_ruben> ich10r, fakeraid
[15:50] <_ruben> go with mdadm raid10 then
[15:50] <SlipperyChicken> fork.
[15:50] <bogeyd6> SlipperyChicken, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[15:50] <Pici> _ruben: right, sorry.
[15:51] <tdn> cclausen, ok.
[15:51] <jeiworth> hi all, looking for a decent howto to enable vnc server on a machine that has no display attached to it but it seems a bit hard to find, the ubunutu-desktop package is installed so it has x and gnome but i can't activate a display for x, so startx doesn't run...
[15:51] <SlipperyChicken> what's RAID-10 like to manage using mdadm ?   i've only used RAID-1
[15:52] <SlipperyChicken> jeiworth, tightvnc.
[15:52] <_ruben> SlipperyChicken: the debian/ubuntu installer doesnt support raid10, but you can create a mdadm raid10 volume with the mdadm command yourself just fine (even during the install and the installer will pick it up)
[15:52] <_ruben> man mdadm
[15:53] <SlipperyChicken> _ruben, what's it like to expand ?
[15:53] <SlipperyChicken> say, if we needed another 2TB's 6 months from now.
[15:53] <_ruben> SlipperyChicken: should also be in the manpage, i never needed to do that myself
[15:53] <_ruben> it is supported though afaik
[15:54] <_ruben> well, i did do it years ago, when it wasnt really supported yet
[15:54] <SlipperyChicken> what about performance ?
[15:54] <_ruben> what about it?
[15:55] <_ruben> "it's good"
[15:55] <SlipperyChicken> how do they compare.  i've only been reading opinions, and can't find cold hard data comparing them.
[15:56] <SlipperyChicken> i guess.. we'll be using LVM regardless, it's just the matter of RAID-1 vs LVM mirroring.
[15:57] <jeiworth> SlipperyChicken thx, will check it out, although i'd prefer preinstalled vino-server...
[15:57] <SlipperyChicken> RAID-1 you have to use the exact same drive, right ?
[16:00] <SlipperyChicken> bogeyd6, any thoughts to the above ?
[16:00] <bogeyd6> i am unsure how to proceed, we dont use physical drives here, everything is on iscsi
[16:00] <_ruben> LVM does mirroring? thought it only did (basic) striping
[16:00] <bogeyd6> SLES servers setup in a SAN
[16:03] <jeiworth> SlipperyChicken: well, anyway, tighvnc worked like a charm right from the start so thanks :)
[16:03] <jeiworth> +t
[16:03] <_ruben> those SANs dont use physical drives either ? ;)
[16:03] <bogeyd6> _ruben, storageworks
[16:05] <SlipperyChicken> jeiworth, no problemo, check out the resolution and bit depth too, turning them down will make it run faster over DSL and junk.
[16:05] <SlipperyChicken> looks like LVM over a bunch of RAID-1's is my best option.
[16:06] <jeiworth> SlipperyChicken, yeah, i directly initialized with those params, now trying to figure out how to use display 0 by default ;)
[16:06] <_ruben> SlipperyChicken: be sure to look into LVM's striping options then, not sure how flexible and all they are
[16:06] <SlipperyChicken> jeiworth, use this.... :0
[16:06] <SlipperyChicken> or localhost:0
[16:07] <SlipperyChicken> whichever.
[16:08] <jeiworth> SlipperyChicken: good point, it says so in the short help as well ;) say, to have it autostart with boot it should be enough to make an entry in rc.local, right?
[16:09] <SlipperyChicken> yep
[16:10] <jeiworth> SlipperyChicken: ok, thx, now i just have to figure out why the keyboard is all screwed up *g*
[16:19] <halvors> how can i fix that? May  5 17:02:23 ss1 dovecot: deliver(halvors-skymia.net): Fatal: Plugin cmusieve not found from directory /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda
[16:21] <hggdh> smoser: ping
[16:24] <wack47> good morning all
[16:26] <zul> hggdh: i think he has the day off today
[16:29] <melrokz> the ubuntu server 10.04 has no GUI???
[16:30] <savid> What's the "proper" directory under which to store database backups that are transferred via NFS?
[16:30] <melrokz> how do i install one?
[16:30] <cclausen> melrokz: you can install packages from aptitude.  I'd say that installing a GUI on a true server can lead to problems though
[16:31] <melrokz> no, I'm just learning it... so i need a GUI to start with... right?
[16:32] <melrokz> what kind of problems, btw?
[16:32] <halvors> it it posible to have gui on server?
[16:33] <melrokz> are those packages on the install cd?
[16:33] <cclausen> halvors: it is possible
[16:33] <cclausen> melrokz: that I am not sure of.  I don't think the gui packages are on the server cd.
[16:34] <melrokz> hmm.. I think i have to go 4 a course on ubuntu server then...
[16:34] <cclausen> melrokz: you can have security problems with X, etc.  the more things on your server means the more things you need to patch and better chances of something causing some weird compatibility problem with their other software or hardware
[16:34] <melrokz> will RHCE do? or will i have to learn anything extra?
[16:35] <cclausen> Is that a Red Hat source?
[16:35] <cclausen> err, course
[16:35] <melrokz> yup
[16:35] <melrokz> red hat certified engineer
[16:35] <hggdh> zul, thanks
[16:35] <cclausen> certain commands are specific to distros.  Learning how rpms work in Red Hat won't help you with debs and apt in Ubuntu
[16:36] <TeTeT> melrokz: you can install the GUI on Ubuntu server, but the GUI components will only be supported for 3 years, not for 5 years as server components for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[16:36] <cclausen> certainly the course can't hurt when learning general Linux commands, but some of the information taught won't be applicable on Ubuntu
[16:36] <cclausen> TeTeT: yeah, true.  that is the other reason not to install the GUI
[16:37] <TeTeT> melrokz: there are Ubuntu specific courses available from Canonical, see http://www.ubuntu.com/training/certificationcourses
[16:37] <melrokz> In India?
[16:38] <TeTeT> melrokz: we're looking currently for training partners there, but some courses are e-learning, others are taught via the Internet
[16:38] <TeTeT> melrokz: so you might go with UCP e-learning, and then take the Deploying Ubuntu server online course (just for example)
[16:39] <halvors> how can i fix that? May  5 17:02:23 ss1 dovecot: deliver(halvors-skymia.net): Fatal: Plugin cmusieve not found from directory /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda
[16:40] <melrokz> hmm... how come red hat has a GUI then? Does it mean that red hat is less stable?
[16:41] <melrokz> i've to make thechoice.
[16:41] <melrokz> the choice
[16:41] <TeTeT> melrokz: check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI for reasons why it is not enabled by default on Ubuntu
[16:41] <melrokz> k, thanks.
[16:42] <melrokz> but i think u could provide it as an option on the CD (if harmless :-))
[16:43] <bogeyd6> i cant keep using the mirror.anl.gov. i need to setup my own mirror i think
[16:45] <melrokz> hmm... i see... "user-friendly" brings in more problems!
[16:48] <cclausen> halvors: the plugin is missing.  find out which one and install it, or configure dovecot to not use it.
[16:48] <melrokz> just for learning... can i get an ubuntu server cd image with a GUI???
[16:49] <cclausen> I would do it the other way
[16:49] <cclausen> get the normal desktop cd
[16:49] <cclausen> and just install the server packages that you need
[16:50] <cclausen> you can install packages from botn cds on the same system if you do it right
[16:50] <cclausen> or, just download from the online repositories
[16:54] <jcastro> zul, ok so the bot will message you
[16:54] <jcastro> and then !q to the bot shows you the question the person is asking
[16:54] <jcastro> then you can !y or !n if you want to answer it or not
[16:54] <zul> gotcha
[16:54] <jcastro> and the bot will paste the question into the channel
[17:08] <skrite99> someone know of a good up-to-date info on tuning mySql tables (especailly MyISAM)  i am finding lots of info but on old equipment. 'if your server has more than 256 megs of RAM..... etc..'
[17:11] <Mrsome1> hello
[17:12] <Mrsome1> how I can go to bugzilla admin panel ?
[17:15] <zul> server q+a going on at #ubuntu-classrom right now
[17:46] <halvors> cclausen: how can i install it?
[17:47] <cclausen> halvors: I'm not sure what package you need.  if you know the package name, use aptitude to install it.
[17:47] <halvors> i dont know what the package name is so what should i do then?
[17:48] <cclausen> halvors: check this bug report
[17:48] <cclausen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/516040
[18:03] <thesheff17> anyone good with pxeboot settings here?  I'm looking to run a post command that gets a python script from a local web server with wget and it never works?
[18:05] <thesheff17> I have tried d-i preseed/late_command string wget http:/10.1.1.1/PostInstall.py; in-target chsh -s /bin/zsh
[18:06] <savid> Hi.  getting this error when starting nfs-kernel-server:  * Not starting NFS kernel daemon: no support in current kernel.
[18:06] <thesheff17> which version?
[18:06] <savid> thesheff17,  1:1.2.0-4ubuntu4
[18:07] <thesheff17> hmm..it should be like 9.04, 9.10, 10.04 etc
[18:08] <thesheff17> have you installed these packages? sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server nfs-common portmap
[18:08] <savid> thesheff17,  oh, ubuntu version?   10.04
[18:09] <savid> thesheff17,  yes, all of those are installed
[18:09] <thesheff17> well then you may have to modprobe it
[18:09] <thesheff17> odd that it isn't built in by default
[18:09] <savid> I modprobed "nfs",  didn't do anything
[18:10] <savid> I may just install unfs3 instead.
[18:10] <thesheff17> yea that looks good to
[18:12] <thesheff17> make sure you are root
[18:12] <thesheff17> I just did modprobe nfs and no problem
[18:12] <thesheff17> w/ ubuntu 10.04 amd desktop
[18:14] <thesheff17> also lsmod | grep nfs
[18:14] <thesheff17> works fine
[18:30] <Hypnoz> thesheff17: I am using a kickstart type file with pxe, and at the end of it I have it wget a lot of files
[18:31] <Hypnoz> thesheff17: wget -q http://10.1.48.1/pxe/linux/etc/resolv.conf -O /root/pxe/resolv.conf
[18:32] <thesheff17> installing ubuntu?
[18:32] <Hypnoz> thesheff17: yeah, 8.04 LTS.
[18:32] <mneptok> after an in-place upgrade from Karmic to Lucid my thttpd daemon no longer launches from init. there's no interesting output in /var/log/messages|thttpd.log|syslog|etc. any thoughts?
[18:33] <thesheff17> well I'm wondering if it works with 10.04...and I'm running amd64 bit....
[18:34] <thesheff17> doe thttpd have its own log files?
[18:34] <mneptok>  /var/log/thttpd.log
[18:35] <thesheff17> Hypnoz could you post that file somewhere so I can see it?
[18:35] <thesheff17> this preseed.cfg file is a pain
[18:35] <mneptok> there's no output at all there. there's onlt http access logs from the previously working instance in /var/log/thttpd.log.1 etc etc
[18:37] <thesheff17> I would check permissions
[18:38] <thesheff17> or also a higher debug level....I do hate when you don't get no indication what is going on.
[19:07] <Mkools> For using tomcat6 I have edited my .bashrc file, do I also need to edit /etc/environment file?
[19:09] <mneptok> thesheff17: i'd be very, very displeased if a permissions issue happened on an *upgrade*
[19:15] <tesseracter> hi. im trying to add a user to a server that only allows ssh key access, they are getting permission denied. i added them as a user, added .ssh dir, added a pubkey to authorized_keys, chmod is set to 600. they are connecting with ssh username@dev.host.com. I currently log in the same way, to the default ubuntu user account.
[19:15] <Mkools> Can any one please help?
[19:15] <SlipperyChicken> if anyone has one of those IBM Netfinity 5000 servers and has the administrator password locked out, pull the BIOS/CMOS off and turn it on.  It'll boot without the chip in.  Problem solved. :D
[19:16] <SlipperyChicken> tesseracter, are you using the same key ?
[19:16] <tesseracter> SlipperyChicken, no, its a different user, so its their key, and they cant connect.
[19:17] <SlipperyChicken> but you can connect ?
[19:18] <tesseracter> yes, I connect, they get permission denied, so ssh is configured correctly, at least for the default user.
[19:18] <SlipperyChicken> can you connect with a key and log in without a password ?
[19:19] <tesseracter> SlipperyChicken, yup. it asks me once the first time after a reboot, but after that, no password.
[19:19] <mianosm> I had a question earlier, and have figured out the work around for it, if someone is looking for it (now or in the future): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1474414
[19:20] <SlipperyChicken> are the permissions the same for both accounts in .ssh/ and authorized_keys ?
[19:21] <mianosm> Also, to use keys with ssh - your home directory can not have +write for group/others.
[19:22] <SlipperyChicken> mianosm, are you sure ?
[19:22] <SlipperyChicken> a server at work is like this.
[19:22] <mianosm> Yes, I made my home directory writable to my group - and ssh will not allow me to use a key with that permission.
[19:22] <Mkools> mianosm: Can you help me?
[19:22] <SlipperyChicken> with read/write/exec on owner and group
[19:23] <mianosm> ~ can not be 77?
[19:23] <mianosm> Make it 755 and test it ;)
[19:23] <SlipperyChicken> oh i see what you're gettin' at. :)
[19:23] <SlipperyChicken> nvm . :)
[19:23] <tesseracter> SlipperyChicken, no, interestingly enough. ubuntu .ssh is set to 700, auth_keys to 755, newuser is 644 for .ssh, 600 for auth_keys.
[19:25] <tesseracter> and everything in ls -Al /home/ is 755.
[19:25] <SlipperyChicken> set everything to the same as yours.
[19:28] <tesseracter> SlipperyChicken, changed the permissions. the only thing left that is different is the key values, and the user:group names.
[19:28] <tesseracter> still perm denied.
[19:30] <SlipperyChicken> ask the user to debug the ssh connection
[19:30] <SlipperyChicken> see what's failing
[19:31] <tesseracter> (just checked /etc/ssh/sshd_config. no allow or deny user lines or anything either.)
[19:32] <zul> interesting smbfs is gone from debian unstable
[19:39] <tesseracter> SlipperyChicken, -v gives a bunch of stuff, ending with the user offering id_rsa and id_dsa, then saying not more keys to try. permission denied. am I missing something dead simple, or is this puzzling?
[19:49] <stanman246> i've got 4 disks, one of them is faulty. Pulled them off a Buffalo Terastation Nas. How do i access the array when i put them into a 10.04 livecd?
[19:53] <mcas_> stanman246: which type of array?
[19:55] <RoyK> stanman246: md or hw raid?
[19:56] <stanman246> software
[19:56] <stanman246> if i run mdadm -E /dev/sdb6 i can see that from the 4 disks one is faulty and removed
[19:56] <RoyK> cat /proc/mdstat should show if it's detected
[19:56] <stanman246> it's not
[19:57] <stanman246> no personalities an <none> unused devices
[19:57] <RoyK> hm.. are the drives tagged?
[19:57] <stanman246> kinda new on this, how do i see if they
[19:57] <RoyK> should be automatically detected if they were
[19:57] <stanman246> are tagged...
[19:57] <RoyK> the old box - did that see the array?
[19:58] <stanman246> well i had to apt-get install mdadm with the livecd
[19:58] <RoyK> do you have access to its root dir?
[19:58] <stanman246> it's from a terastation nas
[19:58] <stanman246> as in mount the sdb6 to /mnt/disk6?
[19:59] <RoyK> I guess sdb6 is only one of four drives?
[19:59] <RoyK> or sdb
[19:59] <stanman246> sdb is
[19:59] <stanman246> have got sda ... sdd
[19:59] <stanman246> being the disks
[19:59] <RoyK> can you install ubuntu onto something and boot from it while the drives are attached?
[20:00] <stanman246> not really, only got 4 sata ports
[20:00] <RoyK> an usb pen?
[20:00] <stanman246> if i try to mount sdb6 i get: mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
[20:00] <RoyK> you need md to see them
[20:00] <stanman246> am running of an usb pen (ubuntu livecd 10.04)
[20:00] <stanman246> md?
[20:01] <RoyK> multiple devices
[20:01] <RoyK> the linux raid thing
[20:01] <RoyK> https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Autodetect
[20:01] <stanman246> could i assemble the array with mdadm without using the faulty disk?
[20:01] <stanman246> md isn't in the ubuntu livecd?
[20:02] <RoyK> can't remember - thought it was, though, but not sure
[20:02] <stanman246> is there some mdadm command to check if it is?
[20:02] <stanman246> mdadm 'sees' the raid array 0 through 3
[20:03] <stanman246> err...
[20:03] <stanman246> it sees 3 active devices
[20:04] <skrite99> hey all, i have a server that doubles as an IVR server with asterisk. Durring peak times, when the procs are all maxed out, the voice quality on asterisk suffers. Is there a way i can dedicate resources to asterisk that will not be used by anything else?
[20:04] <stanman246> and one failed
[20:05] <thesheff17> skrite99 you can use nice command
[20:06] <thesheff17> put asterisk as a higher priority
[20:06] <RoyK> skrite99: first of all, asterisk sucks. next, try to nice out the other stuff. asterisk can be started in 'real time priority' (-p iirc), but this can make the system hang completely if (or when) asterisk fucks up
[20:07] <RoyK> skrite99: also make sure the jitterbuffer is enabled
[20:07] <thesheff17> haha I had no idea what asterisk is.....
[20:07] <RoyK> it's a PoS VoIP solution
[20:08] <RoyK> I used to work with it for some years
[20:08] <thesheff17> and as soon as I saw pbx I shuttered a little.
[20:08] <RoyK> it's so pbx you can't use it for anything bigger than a small in-house thing
[20:09] <RoyK> they even refuse to fix the RTP stack, because 'it's not meant to be a softswich'
[20:09] <RoyK> try to bridge 200 calls through ass-trix and the box is likely to die
[20:09] <RoyK> 100 calls will make them all sound like micky mouse
[20:09] <thesheff17> hehe
[20:10] <codecowboy> hi. do any / all of these EC2 Lucid Lynx instances include a LAMP stack? http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release/
[20:11] <mcas_> stanman246: no md on live cd only alternate or server cd
[20:11] <RoyK> if asterisk was run as an open source project, things would be fixed quite quickly, but alas, it's not. its controlled by digium.com and they don't let any code in unless you sign their disclaimer, which is like giving away your fist-born
[20:12] <stanman246> darn.... well i did an apt-get install mdadm and tried mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda6 *and so on
[20:12] <wack47> i upgraded my distro from 8.10 to 9.04 and now for some reason i get this error in my kernel log http://pastebin.com/FRL35Zpm
[20:12] <wack47> it happens no matter which kernel i try to boot
[20:12] <RoyK> see http://karlsbakk.net/fun/asterisk_architecture.jpg for an architectural overview and http://karlsbakk.net/fun/asterisk-installation.wav for what'll happen next
[20:12] <stanman246> it said mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 3 drivers (out of 4)
[20:13] <RoyK> thesheff17, skrite99: those were for you :)
[20:13] <stanman246> in /dev md0 is visible
[20:13] <RoyK> can you mount /dev/md0?
[20:13] <stanman246> next i tried to mount m0, but got me a "mount: structure needs cleaning" back
[20:13] <skrite99> RoyK, thanks
[20:13] <thesheff17> haha
[20:14] <skrite99> RoyK, looking up the jitterbuffer
[20:14] <stanman246> now i need to clean md0?
[20:14] <RoyK> clean?
[20:14] <mcas_> stanman246: do you have a new disk to replace the faulted one?
[20:15] <stanman246> not now
[20:15] <RoyK> skrite99: I ordered the jitterbuffer to be written some time back and it was included in asterisk 1.4. not sure if it'll help you, though
[20:15] <stanman246> i thought i'd copy the content to an usb disk
[20:15] <RoyK> skrite99: check the i/o load - that's the worst beast on linux
[20:15] <skrite99> RoyK, what alternative to asterisk should i look into?  Asterisk is what we are using now with a digium card, but  i am not married to it.
[20:15] <RoyK> freeswitch is quite good
[20:15] <skrite99> RoyK, and thanks for your help
[20:16] <stanman246> can i assemble anyway with one disk missing?
[20:16] <stanman246> or somehow clean the structure?
[20:16] <RoyK> stanman246: you should have access to your data even with a disk missing
[20:16] <RoyK> that is, if this is raid5 or raid6
[20:17] <RoyK> one drive missing from a stripeset (aka raid0) means you're fucked
[20:18] <codecowboy> hi. do any / all of these EC2 Lucid Lynx instances include a LAMP stack? http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release/
[20:18] <mcas_> stanman246: perhaps this link can help you out
[20:18] <mcas_> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/raid5-with-mdadm-does-not-ron-or-rebuild-505361/
[20:18] <skrite99> RoyK, how do i see i/o load?
[20:19] <RoyK> sar / top / vmstat
[20:19] <RoyK> sar is quite nice
[20:19] <RoyK> apt-get install sysstat
[20:20] <skrite99> cool, thanks
[20:23] <RoyK> skrite99: if you enable it in /etc/default/sysstat and start it /etc/init.d/sysstat start - it'll run periodically and you can run 'sar' to see the load over time
[20:24] <wack47> i upgraded my distro from 8.10 to 9.04 and now for some reason i get this error in my kernel log http://pastebin.com/FRL35Zpm
[20:24] <wack47> it happens no matter which kernel i try to boot
[20:24] <RoyK> does it start?
[20:25] <wack47> royk: you asking me if it starts?
[20:26] <RoyK> does the box start?
[20:26] <wack47> royk: yes it starts and runs fine, but restarts on my 3 times a day
[20:26] <wack47> sometimes i have to manually restart it
[20:26] <RoyK> that's a bitch
[20:27] <RoyK> find anything in the logs before the restart?
[20:27] <wack47> yeah you are telling me, the boss doesnt like it either
[20:27] <wack47> nope
[20:28] <RoyK> I doubt that problem in the logs are related to this
[20:28] <RoyK> possibly a faulty driver
[20:28] <RoyK> can you attach a serial console to this?
[20:29] <Pirate_Hunter> hi people if I wanted to encrypt all data communication on my box what are the options available?
[20:29] <blinkin21> hello
[20:30] <Pirate_Hunter> RoyK, sounds like something is overheating on your box at least that was a problem I had with another box
[20:30] <blinkin21> i was wondering if you could help me with a matter regarding SASL AUTH
[20:30] <RoyK> Pirate_Hunter: not my box :)
[20:30] <blinkin21>  i am performing some tests
[20:30] <Pirate_Hunter> RoyK, the positive side less of a worry for you
[20:31] <blinkin21>  and i couldnt say why different results
[20:31] <wack47> Roky: yes i can
[20:31] <blinkin21> root@mail:/etc/default# testsaslauthd -u andrei@sama.ro -p andrei
[20:31] <blinkin21> connect() : No such file or directory
[20:31] <wack47> oops sry RoyK
[20:31] <wack47> not Roky
[20:31] <wack47> lol
[20:31] <blinkin21> root@mail:/etc/default# testsaslauthd -u andrei@sama.ro -p andrei -f /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd/mux -s smtp
[20:31] <blinkin21> 0: OK "Success."
[20:32] <RoyK> wack47: attach a serial cable and use minicom or something on another station - log it all
[20:32] <wack47> gotcha
[20:34] <Pirate_Hunter> encrypting data communication on a webserver can anyone suggest ways to do so specially on sending and receiving requests
[20:34] <thesheff17> Pirate_Hunter just use SSL
[20:36] <Pirate_Hunter> thesheff17, hmmm thought their were more options...
[20:36] <RoyK> Pirate_Hunter: why?
[20:36] <[diablo]> hi, good evening. Does anyone know please when 10.04 JEOS will surface please?
[20:36] <RoyK> [diablo]: doesn't installing jeos 8.04 and do-release-upgrade help?
[20:36] <Pirate_Hunter> RoyK, huh...? is that why, to my last post to you?
[20:36] <[diablo]> mmm aint tried that actually
[20:37] <[diablo]> however an ISO would be nicer ;-)
[20:37] <wack47> Royk: also cant update anything related to apache, php5, or mysql! http://pastebin.com/xTnZcSVU
[20:37] <CaptainTrek> how can I reboot apache?
[20:38] <CaptainTrek> whats the command?
[20:38] <RoyK> Pirate_Hunter: there aren't any other good ways of encrypting web traffic than (a) SSL or (b) VPNs
[20:38] <Pici> CaptainTrek: sudo service apache2 restart
[20:38] <RoyK> CaptainTrek: apache2ctl restart
[20:38] <RoyK> CaptainTrek: apache2ctl graceful
[20:38] <RoyK> something
[20:38] <dominicdinada> anybody using ebox in here?
[20:38] <Pirate_Hunter> RoyK, awww ok at least now I know
[20:38] <CaptainTrek> holy hell, Pici, you're literally everywhere, huh?
[20:38]  * RoyK prefers the commandline
[20:39] <thesheff17> Pirate_Hunter...yea everyone just use SSL no reason not to...are you looking for a specific feature?
[20:39] <Pici> CaptainTrek: I'm in ~50 ubuntu related channels.
[20:39] <CaptainTrek> Pici: o.O
[20:39]  * RoyK is in one ubuntu-related channel
[20:40] <Pirate_Hunter> thesheff17, at this moment I can't really say, I guess just seeing what is available for encrypting data communication on different level, i.e. admins working together, or requests from other boxes (other than ssh) etc
[20:40] <dominicdinada> Anybodyusing Ebox in here ? that can help with module errors
[20:41] <RoyK> Pirate_Hunter: just use ssl
[20:41]  * RoyK still prefers the commandline
[20:41] <RoyK> web-based administration ftl
[20:41] <CaptainTrek> Pici: can I ask you to do me a favor via PM?
[20:41] <thesheff17> yea I just use SSL and SCP/SSH....there are other encryption methods like http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/
[20:41] <thesheff17> for encrypting actual files
[20:41] <Pici> CaptainTrek: go ahead
[20:42] <Pirate_Hunter> RoyK, sure that is my main option
[20:42] <dominicdinada> RoyK: I dont care that you prefer to use the command line im asking about problems with web interface
[20:42] <Pirate_Hunter> thesheff17, will check that link out doubt I will ever use it
[20:42] <thesheff17> I use it when I offsite hard drives
[20:43] <thesheff17> to whatever backup company
[20:43] <thesheff17> I guess if you where really paranoid you could encrypt the files and then transfer them over scp & ssl....but there is really no reason
[20:43] <dominicdinada> there is sftp also
[20:44] <thesheff17> as long as your ssh keys are big enough you have nothing to really worried about.
[20:44] <dominicdinada> sftp is built into ubuntu-server just make sure you are using a client that supports sftp
[20:44] <thesheff17> and good passwords
[20:45] <thesheff17> I prefer to use rsync tunneling through scp....very fast transfers
[20:45] <RoyK> thesheff17: passwords? why not keys?
[20:45] <Pirate_Hunter> ooooh ok that may be helpful, I think I did read about luks somewhere or at least the name I think it was something about how heavy it was and not light at all... maybe... not sure any more but will definitely look at it now
[20:45] <thesheff17> even if your ssh keys are very long and someone gets your password....they have access to your system.
[20:46] <Pirate_Hunter> thesheff17, rsycn tunnelling through scp how you do that
[20:46] <thesheff17> when I used luks I actually encrypted the whole drive....and then you just mount it
[20:46] <RoyK> thesheff17: if someone gets your password, you're fucked anyway
[20:46] <thesheff17> it was pretty fast
[20:47] <Pirate_Hunter> considering how unstable in a way is the current box setup errrh raid 0s with lvm, that may be helpful for full storage backups
[20:49] <thesheff17> rsync uses ssh by default
[20:50] <RoyK> Pirate_Hunter: raid0 is quite a sport
[20:50] <thesheff17> rsync also has compression
[20:50] <thesheff17> built int
[20:50] <RoyK> -z
[20:51] <RoyK> or --compress-level=something
[20:51] <thesheff17> yup
[20:51] <RoyK> but nothing by default
[20:51] <CaptainTrek> how can I change the ports that Apache listens on?  so that I can only allow access through say port 80 and not 8080?
[20:51] <RoyK> unless you enable gzip in ssh
[20:51] <CaptainTrek> excluding firewall-side settings
[20:51] <RoyK> CaptainTrek: ports.conf
[20:51] <thesheff17> CaptainTrek the default port is 80
[20:52] <CaptainTrek> okay, so port 8080 isnt used?
[20:52] <CaptainTrek> unless configged?
[20:52] <RoyK> no
[20:52] <thesheff17> usually tomcat uses 8080
[20:52] <Pirate_Hunter> RoyK, :p it makes sense considering the box will be running with two/three more boxes etc with a distribution file system
[20:52] <thesheff17> and jboss
[20:53] <RoyK> Pirate_Hunter: which fs?
[20:55] <Pirate_Hunter> RoyK, at the moment its been stuck between gluster and mogilefs as preferred choice. Ceph looks really good but under heavy testing :(
[20:55] <Pirate_Hunter> Hadoop also showed up but... (I'll leave it as that)
[20:55] <skrite99> RoyK, hey, got some sanity back into my  IVR system, have the stats monitor, great help.
[20:56] <RoyK> skrite99: np
[20:56] <RoyK> skrite99: I'd recommend using something else than asstrix, though
[21:08] <stanman246> RoyK: got a bit further with the raid issue
[21:08] <stanman246> RoyK: but when i try to mount i ge a "structure needs cleaning"
[21:09] <stanman246> xfs_repair wants me to destroy the log, but am a bit scared to do so. Don't know i i'd lose data
[21:09] <RoyK> the log may contain new data not written to disk
[21:10] <RoyK> but probably not very much
[21:10] <stanman246> so if i'd dd if=/dev/md2 of=/media/largeDisk and then xfs_repair -L i would be safe wouldn't I
[21:10] <stanman246> ?
[21:10] <RoyK> I'd backup the separate disks if I were you
[21:11] <RoyK> if you have space for it
[21:11] <RoyK> dd if=/dev/sda of=somelargefile1
[21:11] <RoyK> etc
[21:11] <stanman246> i can mount it with -o ro,norecovery
[21:12] <RoyK> then it should be safe - but then - just my two cents
[21:12] <stanman246> and when I df -H i can see the amount
[21:12] <stanman246> of data sitting in the mnt dir
[21:12] <RoyK> do you have sufficient space to back it up?
[21:12] <stanman246> the mounted dir?
[21:13] <dominicdinada> !master
[21:13] <dominicdinada> !master mode
[21:13] <dominicdinada> !mode
[21:13] <RoyK> stanman246: yes
[21:13] <guntbert> !askthebot | dominicdinada
[21:13] <stanman246> it's 530G I can put that to the 1T usb
[21:13] <RoyK> stanman246: if you have, back it up first, then try to recover
[21:14] <RoyK> back it up, play with it later
[21:14] <dominicdinada> !ot | guntbert
[21:14] <stanman246> but if i enter the dir and ls -la i get false data
[21:14] <RoyK> stanman246: rsync -avP /source /dest
[21:15] <RoyK> then, after that has made a copy of what can be done, move on
[21:15] <guntbert> dominicdinada: ?? please don't send random commands to ubottu in the channel
[21:15] <dominicdinada> I was asking a question
[21:15] <stanman246> i'd be copying the false data right?
[21:15] <RoyK> possibly, yes
[21:15] <RoyK> but better than losing the whole set
[21:15] <dominicdinada> about how to tell if my cards support master mode
[21:15] <stanman246> ur right
[21:15] <dominicdinada> of the 3 that is
[21:16] <guntbert> dominicdinada: what question? I saw only several bot commands
[21:16] <dominicdinada> guntbert: about an hour ago i asked along with ebox
[21:16] <stanman246> what if i'd dd all the /dev/sdX6 to the 1T usb, all except the broken one, would i then be more save?
[21:17] <dominicdinada> Ok I am working on setting up a wireless access point and trying to see if there is a simple way to tell which wireless cards support master mode
[21:17] <stanman246> or would it be enough to dd the /dev/md0 (the raid array) to the 1T?
[21:17] <guntbert> dominicdinada: master mode?
[21:18] <dominicdinada> to use as a wireless access point
[21:18] <cclausen> stanman246: if you need more space, you can dd | bzip2 -9 or similar to compress the data first
[21:19] <RoyK> stanman246: just dd the devices to the new disk
[21:19] <RoyK> stanman246: you can assemble the data if you have the devices
[21:19] <guntbert> dominicdinada: I have obviously no idea :-)  -  but I would think you have more luck in ##networking
[21:19] <RoyK> stanman246: xfs will probably clean it up, but you can't be sure
[21:19] <stanman246> righto
[21:20] <dominicdinada> this was a topic in here yesterday so i will disregard your helpful input
[21:20] <stanman246> it'll take a lot of time, but better be safe then sorry
[21:20] <stanman246> gonna dd the sdX6 partitions to the usb disk.
[21:21] <guntbert> dominicdinada: do as you please :-)
[21:21] <RoyK> stanman246: try that first
[21:21] <RoyK> stanman246: then, when they're safely backed up, try xfs fsck
[21:21] <RoyK> the backup will hopefully remain untouched, but then, you never know
[21:21] <stanman246> k, thanks a lot RoyK
[21:22] <dominicdinada> I cant find the pastebin someone sent me of their network and for some reason something overwrote my interfaces :(
[21:22] <RoyK> stanman246: there's a reason I use zfs for large volumes these days :)
[21:22] <stanman246> xfs is running in the stupid buffalo terastation... :(
[21:23] <thesheff17> haha I have a terastation that totally crashed and they wouldn't help me
[21:23] <cedwards> I've setup a number of kvm guests (ubuntu 10.04 server), all bound to br0. this works as expected.
[21:23] <dominicdinada> iface eth1 inet dhcp          so just change this to static 192.......... right to keep this machine wired interface a static like right ?
[21:23] <RoyK> the problem with xfs is there's a low number of users
[21:23] <cedwards> I now need one of these guests to bind to a second bridge, connected to a separate network and I'm having issues.
[21:23] <RoyK> ext[34] has far more users, meaning faster bug fixing
[21:23] <dominicdinada> cedwards: i have virbr0 ? why no br0 ?
[21:23] <stanman246> thesheff17: lost ur data? (don't make me scared here, heheh)
[21:24] <cedwards> dominicdinada: I have br0 and br1, configured as per this example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[21:24] <RoyK> vibrat0r?
[21:24] <cedwards> dominicdinada: the problem is once I activate br1 my routing gets all screwed up.
[21:24] <stanman246> a new machine, running ubu with raid5 on zfs.....
[21:24] <dominicdinada> no
[21:24] <RoyK> stanman246: ubuntu and zfs??
[21:24] <stanman246> not?
[21:25] <dominicdinada> royk: n0 y0ur n0t funny
[21:25] <RoyK> stanman246: how can you make that work? zfs is not compatible with gpl
[21:25] <thesheff17> yea the device had a red light and out of support and they wouldn't help....luckily I had a copy of that data that went offsite every week.
[21:25] <dominicdinada> cedwards: oh i thought you were talking to me cause I am taking on the task of making my server an access point also
[21:25] <RoyK> and running zfs in fuse wastes a lot
[21:25] <cclausen> RoyK: openafs isn't GPL and it runs on Linux
[21:25] <cedwards> dominicdinada: looks like we've got the same issue then.
[21:26] <RoyK> cclausen: is it in the repositories?
[21:26] <dominicdinada> cedwards: actually i got 3 wifi cards and well which to use for me so far lol
[21:26] <cclausen> RoyK: apt-cache search openafs-fileserver
[21:26] <RoyK> afs != zfs
[21:26] <cclausen> well, no
[21:26] <stanman246> righto, sorry
[21:26] <stanman246> need to read more...
[21:26] <Pirate_Hunter> can some help me out just tried command  netstat -atun | awk '{print $5}' | cut -d: -f1 | sed -e '/^$/d' |sort | uniq -c | sort -n and ip 140.211.166.3 is in the list however I have no clue why and who are they
[21:26] <stanman246> thanks anyway and i will come back to let someone know
[21:26] <stanman246> cya
[21:27] <Pirate_Hunter> iut doesnt seem to be part of canonical hmmm...
[21:27] <cclausen> RoyK: there is also the nexenta stuff that uses a GNU userland on a Solaris kernel
[21:27] <cclausen> that does have zfs
[21:27] <RoyK> cclausen: it's like "my dick is so long it gets all the way from a to z when I lay it on the keyboard"
[21:28] <RoyK> cclausen: nexenta uses debian userland, but osol is a little better
[21:28] <dominicdinada> cedwards: you saw this ?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint
[21:29] <cedwards> dominicdinada: mine is all wired, so I don't think that applies.
[21:29] <dominicdinada> oh dont mind me then
[21:29] <cclausen> RoyK: I was just trying to say that the "GPL compatible" isn't an outright limiting factor
[21:30] <RoyK> cclausen: zfs works in fuse atm
[21:30] <RoyK> cclausen: but an FS in fuse limits performance
[21:32] <cclausen> RoyK: ah, right.  just can't be in mainline kernel due to GPL, right?
[21:32] <RoyK> yes
[21:32] <cclausen> (same problem openafs has actually, so some people are working on writing a GPL compatible afs client)
[21:37] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #560075 in virt-manager (main) "virtual machines freeze on boot (dup-of: 559896)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/560075
[21:40] <diabolical> ok
[21:41] <diabolical> !wifi
[21:56] <diabolical> i have having trouble getting my card into mastermode :(
[21:59] <jjjjj> hey guys.  i have a friend who upgraded to Lucid Lynx.  afterward, his resolution is very high.  how can i change the res of the bash shell?
[22:00] <jjjjj> any ideas?
[22:02] <cclausen> jjjjj: a console tty?  not X ?
[22:02] <jjjjj> tty
[22:03] <cclausen> jjjjj: I edit /etc/default/grub and change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=  to include nofs nomodeset
[22:03] <cclausen> and it got me a normal text 80x25 console
[22:03] <cclausen> you can actually choose specific resolutions though
[22:03] <jjjjj> how?
[22:03] <cclausen> look in /etc/default/console-setup, I think
[22:05] <jjjjj> what do i look for?
[22:07] <diabolical> jjjjj, the resolution if it is high you should be able to spot it with settings like 1200x800
[22:07] <diabolical> jjjjj, 640x800 is low res
[22:08] <jjjjj> what line?  sorry, but this is not my computer with the problem, but a friend's, so i can't see the file
[22:09] <diabolical> jjjjj, IDK whats the problem with the high resolution just increase the font size
[22:11] <cclausen> FONTFACE="VGA" FONTSIZE="16"
[22:11] <cclausen> maybe just try increasing the FONTSIZE until its something that works for you?
[22:11] <diabolical> GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480
[22:11] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #576633 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-pgsql 5.0.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576633
[22:11] <diabolical> gfxmode is the resolution also
[22:11] <cclausen> diabolical: that only affect grubs though, right?
[22:12] <diabolical> Ya ....
[22:12] <diabolical> as it is commented out on mine
[22:12] <cclausen> I think they wanted the linux console changed
[22:12] <diabolical> since i am using gnome-desktop
[22:12] <cclausen> but yes, that might be worth trying too
[22:12] <cclausen> I am trying to disable the graphical console myself
[22:13] <garymc> anyone know why all of a sudden my ping to my PPTPD VPN server is really slow
[22:13] <diabolical> well if grub is set with 1000x800 or 1200x800 or something else that is the problem
[22:13] <diabolical> remove the console?
[22:13] <cclausen> it messes up Ubuntu under the MSFT Hyper-V hypervisor
[22:13] <cclausen> garymc: over loaded?  internet connection actually that slow?
[22:13] <garymc> no internet isnt that slow
[22:13] <cclausen> diabolical: no, just force a text mode 80x25 like how it worked in hardy or dapper
[22:13] <garymc> I changed a setting rebooted server
[22:14] <diabolical> garymc, did you limit the the Tx - Rx ?
[22:14] <garymc> It didnt work so I changed back and now its fuked
[22:14] <cclausen> diabolical: disable just the graphics mode, not the consoles
[22:15] <garymc> I changed a setting in /etc/ppp/firewall-masq
[22:15] <garymc> rebooted server
[22:15] <garymc> then changed it back and rebooted server but didnt correct it
[22:16] <cclausen> garymc: maybe that settings wasn't the problem in the first place?
[22:16] <garymc> maybe not
[22:16] <garymc> you know anything about PPTPD VPN ?
[22:17] <diabolical> cclausen,  not sure :( about forcing resolution if i had my iso's i could look into the boot file to see what sets mode
[22:18] <diabolical> wait i think i have an iso for a different linux that has the reso in lemme look
[22:29] <jjjjj> can anyone post their /etc/default/console-setup ?
[22:33] <jjjjj> ...
[22:40] <dominicdinada> how to connect to a remote desktop :(
[22:43] <handheldCar> dominicdinada: what are you saying about remote desktop?
[22:43] <dominicdinada> oh i set another computer to allow remote desktop and have downloaded some clients but they all seem to just login to a command shell via ssh
[22:44] <dominicdinada> wtf why do i need 10 ssh tools when putty > all
[22:44] <handheldCar> what kind of operating system is this other computer?
[22:44] <bogeyd6> it is true, putty > all
[22:44] <dominicdinada> well it is ubuntu server 10.04
[22:45] <dominicdinada> the machine i wanna connect and well im on lucid here but my other computer is win7
[22:45] <dominicdinada> Server = Remote Desktop Server     Clients will be = Ubuntu and win7
[22:47] <bogeyd6> ill let lucid mature and marinate for a few months before i switch the 9.10 servers
[22:47] <handheldCar> not a bad idea bogeyd6
[22:47] <dugger5688> Anyone in here ever set up Samba on Ubuntu and set up roaming profiles for windows XP boxes? I could use some help if anyone has a good guide, or wants to PM me. I think I have everything working as far as ubuntu goes... but I'm having some trouble on the XP side.
[22:47] <handheldCar> dominicdinada: i don't think you use rdesktop or vino for ubuntu server since it has no gui. just ssh or putty.
[22:48] <dominicdinada> handheldCar:  that i use it or can use it ?
[22:48] <dominicdinada> handheldCar: i put gnome on it :/
[22:48] <handheldCar> did you put vino?
[22:49] <dominicdinada> i dont think so./..   ssh   sudo apt-get install vino ?
[22:50] <handheldCar> yep might be up there by default. sudo aptitude install vino
[22:50] <dominicdinada> brb need to reboot from updates
[22:53] <dominicdinada> ok it is installing now
[22:54] <dominicdinada> what about clients then ?
[22:54] <handheldCar> for win7 you'll need a vnc viewer
[22:54] <handheldCar> not sure about ubuntu
[22:54] <dominicdinada> ok :(
[22:54] <cclausen> you could install freenx on both ends
[22:54] <cclausen> I consider it "better" than VNC
[22:54] <dominicdinada> from aptitude ?
[22:55] <cclausen> not sure if there are packages available or not
[22:56] <cclausen> there appaer to be debs on the nomachine site: http://www.nomachine.com/download-package.php?Prod_Id=1888
[22:57] <cclausen> you can just use VNC, but last I saw, it wasn't all encrypted and that could end badly if you aren't using it purely over an internal network
[23:01] <handheldCar> sounds good. here's a tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[23:02] <cclausen> oh, cool
[23:02] <cclausen> you can get it from apt, just not the default repo
[23:06] <dominicdinada> cclausen:  ok thanks
[23:24] <AmokPaule> Hello, when i try to start mysql on lucid i get the following message: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)
[23:26] <garymc> anyone able to help me setup an ipsec server?
[23:26] <garymc> im just bashing my head off the floor now