[00:02] <nigelbabu> all the love around :)
[00:33] <akgraner> pleia2, thank you
[00:33] <akgraner> kids had after school stuff I needed to take care of today
[04:56] <akgraner> Hi all - just a reminder I'll send to the mailing list as well :-)  There is an Ubuntu Open Week Session, Thursday, May 6th, @ 1800UTC - *hopefully* we won't have the trollish behavior we have had in the past during this session, however as a precaution, any UW Members who can and wouldn't mind helping in classroom-chat would be great
[05:03] <IdleOne> akgraner: I would love to be there but I will be at work :/ sorry I have to miss it
[05:04] <akgraner> IdleOne, sorry you have to miss it, but there will be longs
[05:04] <akgraner> logs
[05:04] <IdleOne> yes I know and I will read them
[05:04] <IdleOne> :)
[05:05] <svaksha> ouch... it will be past midnight IST..i would have kept awake but i have a 5:30am mentor chat :(
[05:05] <IdleOne> I'm happy to report thought that I asked sabdfl about an ETA on translating the Code of conduct and dpm told me that he is going to be discussing it with the rest of the translation team at UDS :)
[05:06] <IdleOne> so that is awesome news, hopefully the CoC will be available soon to all languages ( or as many as possible)
[05:07] <IdleOne> not exactly UW related but I think it will still be helpful to this team
[05:22] <elky> IdleOne, well, it's one of the things we've discussed in passing
[05:23] <IdleOne> elky: yes I know, it got brought up again when Edith was translating the pages for WPD
[06:40] <dholbach> good morning
[08:23] <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2010-May/001032.html
[08:23] <pleia2> congrats maco, dinda and elky! :)
[08:24] <pleia2> and czajkowski!!
[08:24] <pleia2> there is a woman on every regional board now
[08:24] <elky> YAY!
[08:24] <pleia2> 3 in Americas, wow
[08:25] <czajkowski> eh?
[08:25] <czajkowski> oh I got in
[08:25] <pleia2> :)
[08:26] <czajkowski> yay
[08:27] <czajkowski> nice going to have a UW presence on all of the boards
[08:27] <elky> I was wondering when the announcement would go out. We kind of expired yesterday or so.
[08:29] <elky> doesn't look like we've unexpired yet either.
[08:31] <pleia2> dholbach set them up a few minutes ago
[08:31] <pleia2> just finished :)
[08:31] <czajkowski> pleia2: we shall celebrate on Sunday :D
[08:31] <czajkowski> pleia2: fancy booking into spa sunday evening or a massage or someting I'm booking mine today
[08:32] <dholbach> elky: you did
[08:32] <pleia2> czajkowski: ooh, not a bad idea
[08:32] <dholbach> congratulations
[08:32] <elky> dholbach, i checked my mail like right before I said it :P
[08:32] <dholbach> ahh, gotcha :)
[08:32] <dholbach> mail takes long to Autralia ;-)
[08:32]  * czajkowski hugs dholbach 
[08:32]  * dholbach hugs you all :)
[08:32] <elky> nah, my mail is still with dreamhost :(
[08:33] <elky> dreamhost mail servers are bleegh
[08:33] <elky> and evolution being evolution makes it worse.
[12:21] <maco> pleia2: you too ;-)
[12:23] <Pendulum> congrats maco elky pleia2 czajkowski !
[15:16] <akgraner> Hi all don't forget today 1800 UTC UW Session for Open Week - hope to see you there - :-)  also any one who can help monitor/moderate -classroom-chat would be welcome
[15:19] <elky> akgraner, do you have content privs for fridge?
[15:20] <akgraner> elky, you mean can I post  - yes I am one of the editors
[15:20] <akgraner> so is pleia2 as well
[15:20] <Pendulum> akgraner, I may be able to help but I can't garantee at this very moment that I can for sure
[15:20] <elky> akgraner, cool, could you just dump the content I put up at http://www.geekosophical.net/?p=472 there so something goes up for the zareason folk
[15:21] <akgraner> yep was going to do all that after I got through this the UW Session today
[15:21] <elky> ah ok
[15:21] <akgraner> finishing the last few slides for that now
[16:41] <czajkowski> sent mail to folks on the UW list re dinner some night at UDS, everyone is welcome
[18:58] <pleia2> Ubuntu Open Week session about Ubuntu Women in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat starts in a couple minutes :)
[19:19] <pleia2> Pendulum: any ETA on the latest interview? my flight is early on saturday so until next week tomorrow is my last day I have to review
[19:19] <pleia2> (and UDS weeks are crazy! :))
[19:25] <Pendulum> pleia2: sorry! will get it to issyl0 tonight to look at so I would guess she'll get it to you early tomorrow
[19:25] <Pendulum> issyl0: ^^
[19:25] <pleia2> no problem, thanks :)
[19:33] <issyl0> Pendulum: great, thanks.
[19:36] <Pendulum> hiya MichelleQ
[19:36] <MichelleQ> hey Pendulum
[19:37] <czajkowski> evenig folks
[19:38] <MichelleQ> hey there, czajkowski
[19:38] <Pendulum> hiya czajkowski
[19:38] <Pendulum> MichelleQ: so is your house officially chicken pox free?
[19:38] <MichelleQ> *think* so.
[19:38] <MichelleQ> I'll go with a yes in another couple of weeks.
[19:39] <Pendulum> :)
[19:39] <MichelleQ> I'm still technically in the incubation period, if I were to get them
[19:52] <czajkowski> pleia2: not long now :)
[19:52] <pleia2> :D
[21:03] <AlanBell> good sessions akgraner and czajkowski, just got home and read them
[21:03] <akgraner> AlanBell, thanks
[21:03] <akgraner> :-)
[21:03] <akgraner> got that mootbot-uk talk ready :-P
[21:05] <AlanBell> interesting point
[21:06]  * AlanBell checks the UDS schedule
[21:10] <AlanBell> not seeing it in there as a plenary
[21:11] <akgraner> then lightning talk time then :-)
[21:11] <AlanBell> could be
[21:12] <AlanBell> perhaps it should have been a blueprint
[21:13] <akgraner> I don't have half the ones I wanted to add finished - so might be adhoc sessions for some of the stuff I wanted to talk about
[21:14] <akgraner> but it's all cool
[21:14] <akgraner> ubuntu women is there and the status.net one is there
[21:18]  * AlanBell doesn't quite get the blueprint concept
[21:18] <maco> AlanBell: its a spec
[21:19] <maco> in software design you write up a detailed spec before you start coding
[21:19] <maco> same idea
[21:19] <maco> well you could just start coding too
[21:19] <maco> but some people claim that not planning results in badness
[21:19] <maco> clearly theyve never played with legos :P
[21:19] <akgraner> Alan but the LoCo teams and stuff are encouraged to use them as roadmaps
[21:20] <czajkowski> blueprint can also be used as a check list linking to a spec
[21:20] <AlanBell> yes, I get that part (although there is nowhere on the blueprint to write a spec, that all goes on the wiki page)
[21:20] <czajkowski> AlanBell: you link to a spec on a wiki
[21:20] <akgraner> yep whiteboard
[21:20] <czajkowski> nope link to a wiki page.
[21:20] <maco> i do find the "but write it all on the wiki, not here" thing weird
[21:20] <jussi> Im with alanbell on this...
[21:21] <akgraner> you can do both - depending on you want to use the blueprint
[21:21] <AlanBell> picking one at random https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-software-center-front-end
[21:21] <akgraner> there are many teams that have full specs on the whiteboard
[21:21] <maco> AlanBell: its pretty much just for tracking, the way its done in lp
[21:21] <maco> its a ToDo list
[21:21] <akgraner> AlanBell, basically it's a tool to help you stay on track
[21:22] <maco> target a bunch of specs at a milestone and mark them done as you go
[21:22] <akgraner> +1 what maco said
[21:22] <maco> er a bunch of blueprints
[21:22] <AlanBell> that does not seem to explain much to me, but it has an approver and a bunch of subscribers
[21:22] <maco> anyone can propose a ToDo item
[21:23] <maco> drafter writes up the detailed plan
[21:23] <maco> approver is someone with authority that rubber-stamps it and says "yes, we'll do that"
[21:23] <czajkowski> so managers as an example
[21:23] <maco> or on smaller projects, the lead developer
[21:24] <AlanBell> It was suggested I do a blueprint relating to Alfresco, so I did https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-alfresco
[21:24] <AlanBell> I suspect that one isn't going anywhere, but I don't know why it is less compelling than the other one
[21:26] <AlanBell> I could do a similar description relating to the roadmap for mootbot-uk but I don't get how it proceeds to having other people look at it
[21:26] <akgraner>  AlanBell what are the changes you want to happen with it
[21:26] <akgraner> if any
[21:26]  * AlanBell notes this has drifted offtopic somewhat
[21:26] <AlanBell> rewrite in python for a start
[21:26] <AlanBell> better output
[21:26] <akgraner> mentoring I'd say on blueprints :-)
[21:27] <AlanBell> possibly more monochromatic to appease doubters
[21:27] <akgraner> ok so you would add those as part of your plan
[21:27] <akgraner> goal
[21:27] <maco> i put 2 blueprints on my project's lp page just so visitors could see what's planned
[21:28] <akgraner> AlanBell, then you can figure out the next steps for each of those goals
[21:28] <akgraner> and who can / will help do them
[21:28] <akgraner> and a goal date for when you want to have those things implemented
[21:29] <akgraner> I would ad adopting by -meeting as well to those goals
[21:32] <czajkowski> AlanBell: am I in the doubters camp :p
[21:39] <AlanBell> I fear you may be :-)
[21:39] <AlanBell> but I will win you round
[21:41] <akgraner> AlanBell, I think it's a great tool - I am telling every one about it
[21:41] <AlanBell> so where do the goals go? on the whiteboard?
[21:42] <czajkowski> AlanBell: sorry!
[21:43] <AlanBell> There are certainly things I don't like about the formatting, the use of tables to get a coloured background is pretty grim
[21:44] <AlanBell> I would like coloured text on the IRC nicks but moin doesn't really do that unless you do raw HTML which is cheating.
[21:45] <czajkowski> icky colour!
[21:45] <czajkowski> html and colour ----> WEbsite :)
[21:46] <AlanBell> useful colour
[21:48] <czajkowski> no it's not, I've read 7 loco wiki pages today, some had colur, much harder to read
[21:52] <akgraner> czajkowski, we know how you feel about color
[21:52] <akgraner> :-)
[21:52] <akgraner> but there are some of us who like it  - as I smile the run
[21:52] <akgraner> then
[21:53] <czajkowski> yup I dont like it, I also know you worship it. each to their own.
[21:53] <czajkowski> shrugs
[21:53] <AlanBell> the colour isn't that important, I just ran out of ways to highlight things
[21:54] <AlanBell> the nickcolour thing just sounds like a fun algorithm to write
[21:54] <AlanBell> but as moin doesn't really support it that probably won't happen
[21:54] <akgraner> AlanBell, like the HTML logs
[21:55] <AlanBell> yes, like the html logs
[21:55] <AlanBell> everyone has their own colour based on the nick
[21:55] <akgraner> I do like those
[21:55] <akgraner> but I just like how mootbot-uk - sorts the logs
[21:56] <akgraner> I find that more helpful than the colors
[21:56] <akgraner> instead of highlighting it - maybe it could add - the word Action Item in the box in front of the item
[21:57] <AlanBell> yup, breaking up the conversation into topics and picking out the actions and votes and such is nice
[21:57] <akgraner> you know the little boxes it highlights the various items in
[21:57] <akgraner> just add words instead of color as it's already set apart from the rest
[21:57] <akgraner> that might be an option
[21:58] <akgraner> dunno  - just brainstorming
[21:58] <AlanBell> http://moinmo.in/HelpOnMoinWikiSyntax#Text_Formatting
[21:58] <AlanBell> ~+larger+~ sounds promising
[21:59] <akgraner> that it does
[22:00] <pleia2> hmm, did we not send an email to the list letting them know about the UOW session?
[22:00] <pleia2> was just going to reply to it with a link to the logs, and I can't find such an announcement, oops
[22:00] <maco> i dont recall seeing one...
[22:02] <akgraner> Oh I tweeted and dented it
[22:02] <akgraner> #fail on my part
[22:02] <akgraner> this week is crazy
[22:05] <akgraner> this is why 3 leaders is a good thing  - we can't all lose our minds at the same time with packed schedules can we?
[22:06] <MichelleQ> bwahahahahaha
[22:07] <Pendulum> hah
[22:07] <Pendulum> who here is losing there mind with a packed schedule right now?
[22:07] <MichelleQ> o/
[22:07] <Pendulum> o/
[22:07] <akgraner> 0/
[22:08] <akgraner> hehe
[22:08] <MichelleQ> I've *only* got world domination on my schedule for this week... Gotta make time for the PTA after all.
[22:09] <czajkowski> I am in dire need of a choclate fix
[22:09] <czajkowski> I also found the yummiest cookies in the UK, white choclate chip
[22:12] <MichelleQ> czajkowski: I, too, need some chocolate.  And some ibuprofen.
[22:12] <czajkowski> this is gonna require me leaving the house to go to shop. EFFORT
[22:13] <MichelleQ> :(
[22:23] <Pendulum> czajkowski: you don't have an emergency chocolate supply?
[22:24] <czajkowski> no...
[22:24] <czajkowski> dont be daft
[22:24] <czajkowski> nothing lasts that long here
[22:24] <czajkowski> 3 of us in this house
[22:24] <czajkowski> ah sod it I'll get dressed and walk around corner
[22:24] <czajkowski> I need chocci
[22:24] <MarkDude> Great sessions , czajkowski akgraner  :)
[22:25] <akgraner> MarkDude, thank you  - Sorry I didn't get to your question
[22:32] <MarkDude> Thats cool
[22:34] <MarkDude> Do you know if the Marriott in Greenburg  is the only place to stay for SELF, or are there other options that are practical. Google only helps so much.
[22:35] <MarkDude> Zareason does not have HP's travel budget :( We would fly in to Charlotte - its half as much
[22:37] <pleia2> if it's the same place as last time, there are some days inn cheap motels around, hang on
[22:38] <pleia2> oh, at the marriot this year
[22:39] <pleia2> very different location :)
[22:43] <czajkowski> MarkDude: thanks
[22:45] <MarkDude> pleia2, It is next door to a crematory :P
[22:45] <pleia2> toasty
[22:46] <czajkowski> http://twitgoo.com/ureko?cx=u Chocolat fix
[22:46] <MarkDude> It IS near the Amtrak tho
[22:46] <akgraner> MarkDude, Spartanburg, SC
[22:47] <akgraner> http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/spamc-spartanburg-marriott-at-renaissance-park/?toDate=6/14/10&groupCode=slxslxa&fromDate=6/10/10&app=resvlink
[22:48] <MarkDude> Sry the expensive airport is gsp
[22:49] <MarkDude> I found some rooms there for $139
[22:49] <akgraner> the SELF rate is $99
[22:49] <MarkDude> Now I have to figure out how to get from Charlotte NC - to SELF
[22:49] <akgraner> in Spartanburg
[22:49] <akgraner> what day are you coming in
[22:50]  * MarkDude facepalms
[22:50] <MarkDude> maybe thursday
[22:50] <akgraner> I know there are some people flying in to CTL
[22:51] <MarkDude> If not there are other options
[22:51] <MarkDude> I am amost willing to take Greyhound - almost :)
[22:51] <akgraner> but not sure what days - pop into  #southeastlinux fest and see if GTSwagger or ke4qqq know what time day people are arriving - and if some ride shares are available
[22:51] <akgraner> #southeastlinuxfest
[22:51] <akgraner> I meant
[22:53] <akgraner> MarkDude, they are the one they would know - I think I am supposed to have that info some where but can't put my hands on it right this second
[22:54] <MarkDude> I forgot about ke4qqq - good idea
[23:13] <pleia2> according to our process document we should have started this: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/LeadershipElectionProcess
[23:15] <akgraner> pleia2, yep - drafting the email now
[23:15] <akgraner> I realized it today when I was fixing my slides
[23:15] <pleia2> yeah, I was just cycling back to some loose ends I have before UDS
[23:15] <akgraner> this is just not a good day for me it at all
[23:15]  * pleia2 hugs akgraner 
[23:15] <akgraner> hehe
[23:16] <akgraner> I think my short term memory has just failed me
[23:16] <pleia2> hehe
[23:16] <akgraner> wow - I have never felt more absent minded in my life - nor felt so unorganized - not liking this feeling at all
[23:18] <pleia2> happens to the best of us :)
[23:20] <valorie> akgraner: you might think of delegating some of your work
[23:20] <valorie> instead of Doing It All
[23:20] <valorie> seriously, everywhere I go, you are doing Something
[23:20] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}
[23:22] <akgraner> valorie, I delegate a lot of it
[23:22] <valorie> good deal
[23:22] <akgraner> that's why I am not doing so much next cycle
[23:22] <valorie> even so, you have a lot on your plate
[23:23] <akgraner> yep - breaking the plate and using a saucer soon :-)
[23:25] <valorie> lol