[00:00] <kwtm> Hey, kernco, Mamarok: does KDE no longer provide 2 possible shortcut keys for the same command, or I just haven't found the right settings yet?
[00:01] <kwtm> Luija1006: In my opinion, huge body of expertise for Intel-based Linux and not much for PowerPC, so I would go with Intel.  If you are thinking about an Intel-based Mac, then I suspect it's ok.  Disclaimer: I've never used a Mac.
[00:01] <Mamarok> kwtm: in the global shortcuts there should be an alternative, no?
[00:02] <Mamarok> wrong, in the standard shortcuts, not in the global ones
[00:02] <kwtm> Mamarok: I don't see it.  It lists the shortcut, which I can change, but it's either "default" or "custom" and I can only set one key.  Will check again.
[00:02] <Mamarok> but standard should have an alternate one
[00:02] <Luija1006> kwtm: So I would get more help with traditionals laptops like sony vaio, hp, etc... but mac book pro is ppc? and also I didnt knew intel based imacs existed
[00:03] <Mamarok> kwtm: the standard shortcuts definitely have alternate ones
[00:03] <kwtm> Luija1006: Yes, intel-based Macs exist but I don't know much about them.  You would indeed get more help with traditional laptops, but if you haven't bought one yet, you might want to shop around to get one that is known to work with Linux --saves a TON of hassle.
[00:05] <kwtm> Luija1006: I myself bought a Dell laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled.  I wiped it and installed Kubuntu, but then when the battery started to fail, the repairshop said, "Oh, that's because you're using Ubuntu".  And I said, "this laptop came with Ubuntu."  So they had to shut up and fix the laptop.
[00:05] <Mamarok> kwtm: ThinkPad normally all run Linux quite well
[00:05] <kwtm> Mamarok: Agree that Thinkpad works well.  You need to tell Luija1006 that; I already have a laptop.  (Actually, I have 4; one is a ThinkPad with Xubuntu.)
[00:06] <kwtm> Mamarok: I would give you a screenshot of my global shortcuts, but I can't even configure the KCaptureScreen thingy (whatever it's called).
[00:06] <Mamarok> ktdid you read what I said above? Not the global shortcuts, the standard ones, I was wrong and corrected why I said the line after
[00:07] <Mamarok> kwtm: ^
[00:07] <Mamarok> OK, bed time for me, good night all
[00:08] <kwtm> Mamarok: Will try std shortcuts.  Thx.
[00:08] <moj0rising> Anyone out there know how to add a network printer?   :)
[00:08] <kwtm> Mamarok: I see them now.  Thanks.
[00:09] <satch5150> im running kubuntu lucid amd64 on an intel quad core ........ I have the nero aac codec and associated binaries that are 32 bit binaries - when I try to run them I get a file not found message, I've made sure the full path is correct and everything is spelled correctly, what is wrong and what can I do about it ?
[00:09] <Luija1006> kwtm: what you recommend me then over the Imac? I was getting interested in it because they say kubuntu runs awesome in it... an hp? do you have a new specific model?
[00:09] <satch5150> the binaries are 32-bit btw
[00:10] <kwtm> Luija1006: I can only recommend what I know: Dell inspiron laptop works well.  Not necessarily better than any other, but for me it is VERY valuable to know that something will work (I'd pay more to have that certainty).
[00:10] <kwtm> Luija1006: If you're willing, you can get Dell laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled --will search for URL now.  But if you want Windows dual boot, you can buy something with Windows.
[00:11] <kwtm> Luija1006: Or else: buy something, try installing Kubuntu, and if it doesn't work, then do a Restore From Drive and return the machine for a refund.
[00:11] <Luija1006> lol I desinstalled windows milleniums ago kwtm
[00:11] <satch5150> anyone ?
[00:12] <kwtm> Luija1006: You're older than I am, then. :)  I only switched in 2003.
[00:14] <kwtm> Luija1006: This should get you started http://www.ubuntu.com/dell but when I checked, I see only the Dell netbook with Ubuntu.  Dell is not the only option, just what I know.  As Mamarok said, ThinkPads also seem to work well, have lots of drivers available, etc.
[00:15] <Luija1006> kwtm: I was just interested in the imacs because it will give it a freshlook to my kubuntu, but then if people see the apple and then come to see it expecting mac os and then see linux they would say like... wtf? but I dont really care about that, I just wanted it for the modern looks and because they said ubuntu runs flawlessly.. but if you tell me ppc have less back up than intel that makes me think twice...
[00:15] <kwtm> Hey, KDE4 experts: I went to SystemSettings > Keybd/Mouse > Input Actions and I see some examples there of keyboard shortcuts but I can't activate them.  Why are those options grayed out?  (screenshot coming up)
[00:15] <kwtm> Luija1006: Check whether the imacs are Intel-based.  If they are, I think you'll be okay.
[00:16] <Luija1006> kwtm: thanks for the help :), one last question, what you think about hps with linux? (the last models, I think they are called pavilion)
[00:17] <kwtm> KDE4 experts: Regarding my question above -- I have found the answer (I forgot to check a checkbox).  Please ignore question, thx.
[00:17] <satch5150> 32-bit binaries on 64-bit kubuntu, anyway to make that work ?
[00:19] <kwtm> Luija1006: You can ask more than one last question. :)  I have had bad experience with Compaq/HP desktop --was it called "Pavillion"?  Or maybe "Presario"?  It just didn't work (it froze on boot-up).  That was about 5 years ago, but it has made me leery of HP ever since.  (On the other hand, apparently HP printers love linux)
[00:19] <Walzmyn> satch5150: there's a way to put them in some kind of wrapper. I don't know how, try google
[00:20] <satch5150> Walzymn: thanks
[00:21] <Luija1006> kwtm I just found in wikipedia pages than macbook pros processor is based in intel core 2 duo
[00:22] <satch5150> ok, let me ask another question, anyone else know of an aac/mp4 encoder that works as well as nero's ? :)
[00:23] <roberto_> eject recloses the cdrom tray
[00:23] <roberto_> just open and close with no pause
[00:29] <Luija1006> kwtm: Actually I just found than Mac Book Pro processor is based in intel core 2 duo
[00:31] <satch5150> when I run file on NeroAacEnc, it says it's dynamically linked, when I run ldd on it it says there are no shared dependencies
[00:32] <satch5150> do which is it and how am I supposed to find out what libs I need ?
[00:41] <kwtm> Luija1006: Going to sign off now --battery low on my Dellbuntu laptop.
[00:41] <Luija1006> kwtm: by and thanks :)
[00:41] <Luija1006> bye*
[01:19] <Saintly> :)
[01:21] <roberto_> anyone know how to eject the DVd ?
[01:21] <roberto_> :D why isn't there an eject option on the icon in nautilus?!
[01:22] <roberto_> oop, better go to #ubuntu since I'm gnome
[01:24] <kacm> Hi, I installed Kubuntu 10.04 netbook remix, but my bootloader disappeared. On top of that, the wireless device is disabled so I can't sudo apt-get install grub because I don't have internet from the LiveUSB. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
[01:29] <darkdelusions> kacm: I think the boot loader was a know issue let me see what i can find
[01:31] <kacm> thank you!
[01:31] <darkdelusions> kacm: according to what i found grub is just there but hidden
[01:32] <darkdelusions> kacm: To configure advanced boot options, press any key at the first boot screen.
[01:32] <darkdelusions> kacm: and when u say your wirless is disabled what does knetwork manager tell you
[01:32] <kacm> its set to boot from the hdd but it wont load anything
[01:33] <kacm> I tried to activate it but it wont fetch the files, I'll try again and post you what it says
[01:34] <kacm> the first time it tried to load the files and install but now it doesnt even move
[01:36] <kacm> darkdelusions: yes, it is hidden but I can't find a way to make it "appear". And everything I find on the web is about repairing the bootloader if you installed Windows and your other distro disappeared, which is not my case exactly.
[01:41] <Whammo> I have firefox set to use kmplayer, but there is no evidence it works. any advice
[01:41] <Whammo> ?
[02:09] <rolsworth> 10.04 has a serious bug with raid installation
[02:18] <jimmy51> i'm impressed.  my workstation upgrade went without a hitch.
[02:51] <Matisse> hi
[02:52] <Matisse> since upgrade to lucid firefox crashes on flash-containing sites. Can somebody help me?
[02:55] <e_t_> Matisse: are you using Adobe flash or Gnash?
[02:57] <Matisse> e_t_, adobe
[03:02] <Matisse> opera is only playing the sound of flash things, like before
[03:05] <flavio> Hello, could someone explain what I have to do in order to enable compositing for intel 945? It was running fine after install, but now systemsettings clains it is disabled.
[03:05] <flavio> I am running kubuntu 10.4
[03:06] <e_t_> Matisse: Open Firefox, click on Tools > Add-Ons
[03:09] <e_t_> flavio: try pressing Alt+Shift+F12
[03:10] <flavio> e_t_:
[03:10] <flavio> Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values.
[03:10] <flavio> Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type.
[03:11] <Matisse> e_t_, already disabled vlc-plugin if you want to suggest that
[03:13] <flavio> e_t_: The compositing type is set to OpenGl. If I could edit the xorg.conf file, but it is now gone, I don't know how to setup X without editing the xorg.conf file.
[03:13] <e_t_> Matisse: I mainly wanted to check to make sure Firefox wasn't seeing two flash plugins or something.
[03:14] <Matisse> e_t_, but there are 2 different flash version, deactivating the newer helps
[03:14] <Matisse> thx
[03:18] <e_t_> flavio: this might be helpful to you. It says "fix released": https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/561580
[03:19] <flavio> e_t_: Thanks, I will have a look on this.
[03:22] <e_t_> flavio: I'm not certain, but I think that if you *create* an xorg.conf, the computer will act on it. I've still got a cathode monitor on one computer and it wouldn't remember my resolution settings, until I created an xorg.conf with the nvidia tool (I've got their graphics). It worked.
[03:27] <flavio> e_t_: I think I figured out what happened, I installed Nvidia drivers in this system, I will remove these packages and try again. I know that the xorg.conf could do the trick, but I'm using intel graphics here, and I can't figure out how to generate the xorg.conf, the reconfigure xorg-server does not work anymore.
[03:27] <flavio> e_t_: Thanks again
[03:51] <flavio> e_t_: Removing nvidia packages and reinstalling intel ones worked, compositing is working just fine now, thanks again.
[03:58] <hstefan> so, I've installed Kubuntu on a virtual box and it's working fine, but... I can't get my native resolution there (1920x1080). Already installed the addittions. Any ideas?
[04:02] <hstefan> uh, I guess its a negative.
[04:38] <daweed> helo
[04:39] <daweed> can i install an antivirus to my kubuntu? cuz i didint dount anythink on kpackagekit
[04:39] <smokealot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus/Avg
[04:47] <daweed> smokealot: the avf antivirus doesnot remove the virus do u know abouth other who really remove the virus
[04:49] <hstefan> wtf am I reading. An antivirus for linux.
[04:49] <PSiL0> hstefan: maybe to run scans on his window partition ;)
[04:50] <hstefan> PSiL0: oh, I see.
[04:52] <PSiL0> hstefan: run scans from an environment that he knows is safe, heh
[04:52] <daweed> what is a file tar.tz
[04:54] <DarthFrog> Don't you meant tar.gz?
[04:54] <DarthFrog> or tar.bz?
[04:54] <DarthFrog> tar.gz is the Unix equivalent of a zip file.
[04:55] <hstefan> PSiL0: got your point heh
[04:55] <DarthFrog> As is a tar.bz file, only using a different compression scheme.
[05:06] <whammo> does anybody know how to get mplayer to either embed or stream flash to external?
[05:07] <mase_wk> whammo: what exactly do you mean by stream?
[05:07] <mase_wk> and which protocol ?
[05:07] <whammo> to stream .swf either external or embedded using mplayer
[05:08] <whammo> example: youtube
[05:08] <whammo> mplayer plays well with jack
[05:20] <Daughain> Since when do we need angels here?
[05:20] <maco> angels? NOOOOO
[05:20] <maco> dont blink. dont even blink. blink, and you're dead. don't close your eyes. don't look away. and don't blink.
[05:20]  * Daughain chuckles.
[05:21] <thomas___> hello
[05:21] <thomas___> how do I install java jre on kubuntu
[05:24] <hellokitty> hi guys, new to kubuntu, My system crashed and I lost the trasparent box on the desktop. How can I get it back?
[05:24] <whammo> can anybody recommend a browser that they can confirm as supporting a kmplayer plugin for flash video?
[06:55] <MBadass> Hey
[06:56] <MBadass> how's it going
[06:57] <MBadass> anyone online?
[06:57] <Daughain> Sorta.
[06:58] <MBadass> Hey iono if im in the right place, but I was wondering if there were any new music managers that were good
[06:58] <MBadass> I've gotten tired of Amarok, Rhythmbox, and songbird doesn't match my sync needs =P
[07:00]  * Daughain shrugs..
[07:00] <Daughain>  I use VLC for amm my media./
[07:00] <moetunes> there's alxays mpg321
[07:01] <moetunes> always*
[07:01] <moetunes> !info mpg321
[07:01] <Landgraf> new kubuntu ask me about untrusted packages like Windows Vista :)
[07:01] <moetunes> heh
[07:01] <Landgraf> you sure? sayed she
[07:01] <Gaecyn> k thanks, I think i've finally found a wiki that should help me out
[07:02] <Gaecyn> I will check out mpg321 looks pretty light
[07:02] <eagles0513875> Landgraf: try not to stray offtopic please
[07:02] <Daughain> We got a whole nother channel just for that./
[07:03] <moetunes> Gaecyn: mpg321 is a cli app
[07:03] <Gaecyn> Oh sorry, like I said I wasn't sure if I was in the right room.
[07:03] <moetunes> Daughain: a link?
[07:04] <Daughain> ?????
[07:04] <Daughain> #Kubuntu-Offtopic?
[07:04] <moetunes> Daughain> We got a whole nother channel just for that./   moetunes> Daughain: a link?
[07:04] <moetunes> ahhh offtopic...
[07:04] <Daughain> Link for what??
[07:05] <moetunes> Daughain> We got a whole nother channel just for that./   moetunes> Daughain: a link?
[07:05]  * Daughain shakes his head....
[07:05] <Landgraf> this not offtopic, this a question - why official repozit have untrusted packages?
[07:05] <Landgraf> i don't connect left repozit
[07:06] <moetunes> Daughain: you new what you were talking about - I guess that's all that counts
[07:07] <Daughain> Landgraf: An untrusted package is one not supported by the 'official' release....Often  proprietary stuff.
[07:07] <Daughain> A legal issue more than anything else.
[07:09] <Gaecyn> mhmm...I have a question regarding the networking capabilities of kubuntu.
[07:09] <mase_wk> Gaecyn: are we guessing the question ? i like guessing games
[07:09] <Gaecyn> actually never mind..
[07:09] <Gaecyn> it was a bad question
[07:10] <Gaecyn> because I just realized I have a built in wlan card that doesn't support mesh networking
[07:10] <Gaecyn> so i would never be able to utilize the answer
[07:10]  * Daughain chuckles...
[07:10] <mase_wk> Gaecyn: you can create mesh networks if that was your question
[07:11] <Gaecyn> mesh networks basically allow you to share a wifi connection you have alongside an adhoc network?
[07:11] <mase_wk> erm not exactly. they can do that
[07:12] <mase_wk> it just means that each node acts as an independant router
[07:13] <Landgraf> big files (1.5 Gb) is very long copy on USB-drive? haw remove this trouble?
[07:13] <Landgraf> 30 minutes
[07:13] <mase_wk> Landgraf: don't copy big files or buy an esata usb key...or compress the files
[07:13] <moetunes> Landgraf: is it an old comp - using usb1?
[07:14] <Landgraf> no, new pc, in Win - 10 min
[07:14] <moetunes> k
[07:14] <mase_wk> Landgraf: is it mounted with the sync option ?
[07:14] <mase_wk> that would reduce performance
[07:15] <Landgraf> auto moun, i dont mount manually
[07:15] <mase_wk> Landgraf: have a look and see, maybe the system thought for some reason it should be mounted with sync
[07:15] <mase_wk> mount willl show you which options were used
[07:16] <Landgraf> i can to see it in Dolphin?
[07:16] <mase_wk> not sure sorry.
[07:19] <mase_wk> this is how mine looks
[07:19] <mase_wk>  /dev/sdg1 on /media/disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=mixed,flush)
[07:21] <Landgraf> mase_wk: i don't see 'sync option' in "mount --help"
[07:21] <mase_wk> Landgraf: just type mount
[07:21] <mase_wk> it will show you a list of current mountpoints and their options
[07:22] <Landgraf> ok
[07:22] <owner_> i got a programming question> if anoyne can help, what is the difference between interface Vs Class Vs Abstract class
[07:23] <owner_> in OOP such as c++, C# or java?
[07:24] <owner_> anyone? anything?
[07:25] <Landgraf> mase_wk: /dev/sdb1 on /media/PRETEC type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=mixed,flush)
[07:25] <Landgraf> mase_wk: there is trouble?
[07:36] <mase_wk> Landgraf: looks ok .Not really sure sorry.
[07:38] <Landgraf> mase_wk: i read that thes trouble is in kde, but not in gnome.. i'll think more...
[07:42] <mase_wk> Landgraf: which version are you using ?
[07:43] <mase_wk> could be a dolphin issue i guess.
[07:44] <Landgraf> dolphin 1.4, kde 4.4.2
[07:44] <mase_wk> hmm ok. not really sure  sorry . so if you use nautilus it transfers quickly ?
[07:45] <Landgraf> now trying via 'cp'
[07:45] <mase_wk> ok even better
[07:45] <Landgraf> wait still
[07:47] <Landgraf> not see progress line and countdown :)
[07:48] <mase_wk> does cp have a progress option. You can use `time` to time how long something takes if you like
[07:49] <Landgraf> no look this opltion
[08:18]  * starslights great's the chan
[08:18] <fakedrake>  i want to install lucid on an ldap authenticating network, are there any significant related bugs at the current release?
[08:20] <fakedrake> anyone?
[08:24] <moetunes> fakedrake: an ldapauthenticating network is not a common issue, got some more info?
[08:25] <moetunes> here's the  I missed
[08:33] <kinkie> Hi all.. I have a question. I'm runnning Ubuntu 9.10, and I'd like to switch to kubuntu 10.4 ; what would you suggest as the most painless way to do it? Thanks!
[08:34] <fakedrake> well there is not much more to say,  there is an ldap server and all i want is to rely that it will work on 10.04 as it works on 9.04 now
[08:34] <fakedrake> moetunes
[08:35] <moetunes> !ldap | fakedrake
[08:36] <moetunes> fakedrake: seems all is as was
[08:36] <Guest94139> whois Guest94139
[08:36] <fakedrake> i mean i have 9.04 on the client and it works flawlessly, i want 10.04 to have the same quality
[08:37] <fakedrake> i mean i have heard some bad rumors
[08:37] <fakedrake> so i thought i would ask you guys
[08:38] <fakedrake> ok ill try it and see how it goes from there
[08:38] <fakedrake> thanks a lot
[08:58] <pioneer> Hi
[08:58] <pioneer> How are you guys :)
[08:59] <mase_wk> present =)
[08:59] <moetunes> !hi | pioneer
[09:00] <pioneer> Hi Moetunes
[09:00] <pioneer> I am here to thank you , all of you , for your help and support this great O.S
[09:09] <alvin> Where can I download a CD cover for Kubuntu 10.04?
[09:10] <moetunes> !artwork
[09:12] <Reign1> guys, does any of you use oracle? question is where to put my tnsnames.ora file so that TOra would take it? i got it in /etc/oracle on my gentoo, but this doesnt work on kubuntu
[09:21] <alvin> Well, those are nice links, but none of them contain CD covers for Kubuntu
[09:25] <alvin> I'd like some official labels
[09:26] <moetunes> alvin: I'm not sure there are any
[09:26] <moetunes> !kubuntu
[09:26] <moetunes> might try http://kubuntu.org
[09:27] <alvin> I am sure they exist. After all, you can order a free CD and that's not a blank cd. I already searched on http://kubuntu.org
[09:27] <moetunes> !logo
[09:27] <moetunes> might be there
[09:27] <alvin> That site only contains the Kubuntu logo
[09:28] <moetunes> I'm outta links then sorry alvin  - ot something I've looked into
[09:29] <alvin> no problem
[09:29] <moetunes> s/ot/not
[09:31] <shadeslayer> alvin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/VisualIdentity
[09:31] <shadeslayer> all the new logos :)
[09:32] <alvin> I'm happy with all the links guys, but those are not Kubuntu cd labels. Nice logo's, but they are Ubuntu logo's
[09:33] <shadeslayer> alvin: oh you need the Kubuntu cd cover?
[09:33] <alvin> Yes, that one
[09:36] <shadeslayer> alvin: hold on..
[09:42] <shadeslayer> alvin: /join #ubuntu-artwork
[09:42] <alvin> done
[10:22] <Greenery> my firefox is not integrated although ihave installed kmozillahelper already. Am i missing something?
[10:36] <iconmefisto> Greenery: and you've restarted firefox since installing kmozillahelper?
[10:36] <Greenery> iconmefisto: yup i did
[10:36] <iconmefisto> Greenery: did you install firefox from official repos?
[10:37] <Greenery> yes I do install from the official repos
[10:38] <alab> is it plymouth that is responsible for the animated splash screen kubuntu logo in 10.4, and could it be there is a regression after upgrade to plymouth 0.8.2-2 ? Before i was so happy to have a high resolution by default, even on vt linux console, which is gone again after upgrade
[10:39] <iconmefisto> Greenery: if you go to about:config in firefox, search for "file_picker", is ui.allow_platform_file_picker set to "true" ?
[10:40] <Greenery> it is set to true
[10:42] <alab> or could this be the mesa, grub2 or even the kernel package which where upgraded in that cycle as well?
[10:43] <iconmefisto> alab: there are grub settings for resolution in /etc/default/grub
[10:43] <iconmefisto> alab: if you edit that file, sudo update-grub afterwards
[10:43] <moetunes> isn't grub and the kernel having conflicts at the moment?
[10:44] <alab> yes it is just that it worked surprisingly after dist-upgrade to 10.4 and now it is at low-res again
[10:44] <Greenery> i think i'm gonna try to install firefox using the kubuntu firefox installer
[10:44] <moetunes> vga=  wise
[10:45] <alab> worked==high resolution detected and applied
[10:46] <iconmefisto> alab: you can add "set gfxpayload=1200x800" to the grub kernel line (some resolution that your monitor natively supports)
[10:47] <alab> thank you will have a look at that one
[10:47] <starslights> i have  same problem as alab too, after installed nvidia driver, i got splash screen more bigger as the windows size
[10:48] <starslights> thanks for advice but since i wasn't able to boot one time because not driver would like to load, i will not change grub setting, not enough knowledge, but thanks for advice
[10:50] <alab> oh i had the ati drivers, but after them failing i throwed them away and was so happy to see the free driver did a good job and even gave me highres linux console without searching days and setting up everything
[10:50] <n8w> hey
[10:51] <n8w> how do i find out whats the max read rate(MB/s) of hdd?
[10:52] <shadeslayer> n8w: hmm... well that depends.. try copying a large file...
[10:52] <moetunes> man hdparm iirc shadeslayer
[10:53] <n8w> moetunes:  nope,ive tries that
[10:53] <shadeslayer> moetunes: isnt that used to set HDD parameters?
[10:53] <n8w> shadeslayer:  yep it is...it doesnt rly show anythin i need
[10:53] <moetunes> shadeslayer: it does more then that
[10:53] <shadeslayer> n8w: my point too...
[10:54] <shadeslayer> moetunes: really? ive just tried it to set my hd speed.. not measure it
[10:54] <shadeslayer> n8w: im sure there are tools to read the disk speed
[10:54] <n8w> moetunes:  ive tried that...it shows buffered reads and cache reads...thats it
[10:54] <n8w> shadeslayer:  ye,but ive been tryin to find any of those for a quite long time n ive got nothin....
[10:55] <moetunes> the -T option in man hdparm
[10:55] <moetunes>  -t     Perform  timings  of  device reads for benchmark and comparison purposes
[10:56] <n8w> moetunes:  ive tried with both
[10:56] <moetunes> what more do you want?
[10:57] <n8w> moetunes:  i need to know the max transfer rate in MB/s...not buffered or cache reads
[10:58] <Greenery> Still my firefox integration with KDE is not working. I even tried to install using the kubuntu-firefox-installer
[10:58] <Gaecyn> Hey guys
[10:58] <n8w> moetunes:  buffered reads or cache reads dont say anythin about maximum read transfer rate(app-->hdd)
[10:59] <moetunes> n8w: apart from man hdpam I don't know what to suggest
[11:00] <Gaecyn> Hey in rythmbox I have a problem, it will not play songs. It identifies them but it just keeps skipping after song after song. Could this be a codec problem?
[11:00] <n8w> moetunes:  i think i gotta go thr0 bonnie++ manual:// :))
[11:04] <Gaecyn> what the fuck...Amarok doesn't have native support for mp3 playback?
[11:04] <Gaecyn> what type of shit is this?
[11:04] <FloodBotK3> Gaecyn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <shadeslayer> Gaecyn: it has support for MP3
[11:05] <shadeslayer> Gaecyn: you dont have the codecs installed
[11:05] <bazhang> Gaecyn, watch the language
[11:05] <Mamarok> !lanaguage > Gaecyn
[11:05] <Gaecyn> sorry
[11:05] <shadeslayer> Gaecyn: *buntu cant provide closed codecs on a open system
[11:05] <shadeslayer> !mp3 | Gaecyn
[11:06] <Gaecyn> I just presumed that it would have the capacity to play them if rythmbox could
[11:06] <Mamarok> Gaecyn: Amarok uses the xine backend, isntall libxine1-ffmpeg for mp3 codecs
[11:06] <Mamarok> install*
[11:06] <Gaecyn> Sorry again, spent all morning looking for a currently updated music player that I wouldn't have to run on wine.
[11:07] <shadeslayer> Gaecyn: ew... i suppose you run vlc in wine too>
[11:07] <Gaecyn> ?huh?
[11:08] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: leave it
[11:08] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: :P
[11:13] <gaecyn> but ofcourse I run vlc in wine
[11:13] <gaecyn> how else am I going to enjoy such great media
[11:14] <Mamarok> gaecyn: well, VLC runs natively in Linux, no need to run it in wine
[11:14] <Mamarok> gaecyn: get the packages from the repo, it works without a problem
[11:15] <gaecyn> Yeah I kinda noticed, but that kinda leads me into my question. I understand that running most windows based programs in wine leads into large hassels and drawbacks. Is that true of most windows programs or is it just my imagination?
[11:16] <shadeslayer> gaecyn: told you :)
[11:16] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ^^
[11:16] <Mamarok> gaecyn: why don't you just try the available Linux programs first? Most of the time there is no need for a Windows program anyway
[11:16] <Mamarok> unless there is nothing equivalent, but I doubt that, besides some prorpeitary games
[11:17] <Mamarok> proprietary*
[11:17] <gaecyn> You're right, and I have still never run into a problem like not finding a program. But I keep looking at the crossover suite
[11:17] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[11:18] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[11:18] <gaecyn> which just seems like a bigger wine with a price tag..
[11:18] <silv3r_m00n> I upgraded ubuntu from 9.10 to 10.04 , but not kde can't start , plasma crashes
[11:18] <silv3r_m00n> what to do now ?
[11:18] <Mamarok> gaecyn: why do you insist of wanting tu use WIndows programs in the first place?
[11:18] <shadeslayer> silv3r_m00n: does it crash as soon as you login?
[11:18] <silv3r_m00n> yup
[11:19] <shadeslayer> silv3r_m00n: ok switch to a tty with : ctrl+alt+F1 : and  rename your .kde dir.. : mv .kde .kde_old
[11:19] <gaecyn> mainly because I have an iphone, and itunes is the only thing that is tying me into windows.
[11:20] <silv3r_m00n> shadeslayer: hmm
[11:20] <Mamarok> gaecyn: which is called vendor lock-in... next time you buy hardware think first
[11:20] <silv3r_m00n> I am in gnome , I can do it here only
[11:20] <gaecyn> I know that 10.4 provides support for it, but im kind of weary about using it as non itunes solutions to syncing my apple devices lead to currupt my devices
[11:21] <shadeslayer> silv3r_m00n: yeah if youre in gnome thats safe
[11:21] <gaecyn> You're right, and I had the iphone 2 years ago..i've moved over to linux in the first of this year.
[11:21] <gaecyn> i mean last year
[11:22] <silv3r_m00n> shadeslayer: I renamed it
[11:22] <shadeslayer> silv3r_m00n: ok now logout and login via kde
[11:22] <silv3r_m00n> after this upgrade fonts have become strange , they appear bigger and less clear than on karmic koala
[11:23] <shadeslayer> ill brb
[11:27] <quietone> konqueror is not showing ubuntu forum correctly. characters go off screen to the right/around links is wrong. Other sites OK. How can I fix this? I am new to KDE.
[11:28] <ershad> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 + KDE 4.3. Could you please help me to install/upgrade to KDE 4.4.3 ?
[11:30] <shadeslayer> quietone: hold on...
[11:31] <shadeslayer> quietone: install : kpart-webkit
[11:31] <quietone> shadeslayer: Ok. I am learning how to configure quassell
[11:32] <shadeslayer> quietone: oh.. just press alt+f2 and type : konsole : that will open a terminal.. then type : sudo apt-get install kpart-webkit
[11:32] <ershad> Could you please help me ?
[11:33] <shadeslayer> ershad: um 4.4.3 is not available for karmic i think
[11:33] <ershad> shadeslayer: ok, no other way to install it ?
[11:33] <shadeslayer> ershad: theres 4.4.2 i believe
[11:34] <ershad> shadeslayer: fine, could you please tell me how to install it ?
[11:34] <shadeslayer> quietone: then go here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6674669&postcount=2
[11:34] <quietone> shadeslayer: Couldn't find package kpart-webkit
[11:34] <ershad> shadeslayer: i tried adding the lucid repo, but didn't work :(
[11:35] <shadeslayer> ershad: thats dangerous
[11:35] <shadeslayer> ershad: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[11:35] <shadeslayer> quietone: do you have universe enabled?
[11:35] <shadeslayer> quietone: is this a brand new install?
[11:36] <Zombie__> hi
[11:36] <shadeslayer> Zombie__: hi :)
[11:36] <Zombie__> I'm having a problem
[11:36] <quietone> shadeslayer: I don't know. This is a clean install of 10.04. I am still finding my way around in the 'K' world....
[11:37] <shadeslayer> quietone: hehe.. well ok,press alt+f2 and type kpk
[11:37] <shadeslayer> quietone: click on kpackagekit settings
[11:37] <Zombie__> that it, when I loginto my desktop, my resulation get set into 1024*768
[11:37] <ershad> shadeslayer:I'm trying..
[11:38] <Zombie__> I want to set it by default to 1280*1024
[11:38] <asina12> Hi, I currently have Ubuntu Karmic with windows Xp, I would like to replace Karmic with Kubuntu Lucid Lynx by fresh install, how can I do this? Can I go to windows and format the partition that ubuntu currently occupies?
[11:38] <quietone> shadeslayer: what is kpk?  man kpk shows nothing.
[11:38] <shadeslayer> ershad: ok,add that PPA and update,you should get a notice for upgrades
[11:38] <shadeslayer> quietone: kpk stands for kpackagekit
[11:38] <ershad> shadeslayer: ok, thank you very much, Nice day :)
[11:39] <shadeslayer> asina12: that wont be necessary... just grab a live iso and burn it to a CD
[11:39] <Zombie__> shadeslayer can you help me?
[11:40] <shadeslayer> Zombie__: hmm.. well theres a resolution setting module in ksystemsettings
[11:40] <Zombie__> yes I am using that
[11:40] <Zombie__> every time I log into system
[11:40] <shadeslayer> Zombie__: what card?
[11:40] <shadeslayer> graphics card...
[11:40] <Zombie__> Intel dg41rq built in
[11:40] <asina12> shadeslayer: then I will boot the live CD to install Kubuntu right? I can simply overwrite the partition occupied by Ubuntu using the LiveCD?
[11:41] <shadeslayer> asina12: yes,just choose manual partitioning and overwrite your current ubuntu partition
[11:41] <Zombie__> I want to change the default res.
[11:41] <shadeslayer> Zombie__: hmm.. no idea then...
[11:42] <Zombie__> :(
[11:42] <asina12> shaheslayer: thanks, just to confirm, there will be no adverse effects on grub?
[11:42] <Zombie__> can u guide me to compile latest ktorrent
[11:42] <shadeslayer> Zombie__: bah.. ktorrent compiles are broken
[11:42] <Zombie__> Or can u tell me from where can I get the latest .deb or ktorrent 4.0rc1
[11:42] <shadeslayer> Zombie__: i was trying to compile latest svn.. failed
[11:43] <Zombie__> me too
[11:43] <shadeslayer> Zombie__: you need to compile kdesupport/phonon too...
[11:43] <Zombie__> did u install build-essential
[11:43] <shadeslayer> Zombie__: yes..
[11:43] <Zombie__> ?
[11:43] <Zombie__> duild-dep ktorrent
[11:43] <Zombie__> ?
[11:43] <Zombie__> I need to compile phono too :(
[11:43] <shadeslayer> Zombie__: you need to compile the latest svn snapshot of phonon to get it working
[11:44] <asina12> shadeslayer: thanks, just to confirm, there will be no adverse effects on grub?
[11:44] <Zombie__> can u tell me how can I do that?
[11:44] <silv3r_m00n> shadeslayer: kde still doesn't start
[11:44] <silv3r_m00n> the screen becomes blank just after those 5 icons are done
[11:44] <silv3r_m00n> I renamed .kde to .kde_old
[11:45] <shadeslayer> silv3r_m00n: ok press alt+f2 after the 5 icons and type : plasma-desktio
[11:45] <shadeslayer> up
[11:45] <shadeslayer> silv3r_m00n: *plasma-desktop
[11:45] <silv3r_m00n> btw after upgrading to 10.04 I see a lot of upgrades in synaptic , do I need to complete those ?
[11:45] <ScorpKing> shadeslayer: it could be his settings in ~/.kde/ that's cusing that
[11:47] <shadeslayer> ScorpKing: he did rename his .kde folder...
[11:48] <shadeslayer> i fear he has missing packages
[11:48] <alab> hey i got it, the splash resolution -> this changed in kern.log >> Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 240x75 << into >> 80x30 << after updating a bunch of packages, but which is responsible?
[11:48] <Zombie__> what is ktorrent irc channel?
[11:48] <ScorpKing> shadeslayer: if creating a second test user solves the problem you'll know for sure
[11:48] <shadeslayer> ScorpKing: yeah lets see
[11:48] <silv3r_m00n> shadeslayer: plasma-desktop doesn't do anything
[11:48] <shadeslayer> Zombie__: #ktorrent
[11:48] <shadeslayer> silv3r_m00n: ok open a terminal.. and type : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:48] <silv3r_m00n> actually kde did start after the upgrade , and I played with some font settings , just after that it crashed and doesn't start anymore
[11:49] <shadeslayer> silv3r_m00n: btw you renamed ~/.kde right?
[11:49] <silv3r_m00n> yup
[11:50] <silv3r_m00n> strange , kubuntu-desktop was installed before the upgrade
[11:50] <shadeslayer> silv3r_m00n: and now its not?
[11:50] <silv3r_m00n> ok installing it
[11:50] <silv3r_m00n> yup
[11:50] <shadeslayer> yeah thats your problem :)
[11:52] <quietone> shadeslayer: thank you. It does display better (but not good enough for me to use regularly) and the package kit is working now.
[11:53] <silv3r_m00n> ok kubuntu-desktop installed
[11:53] <silv3r_m00n> let me login to kde
[11:53] <shadeslayer> quietone: cool :)
[11:54] <shadeslayer> quietone: i hope you have webkit selected as default in view
[11:54] <shadeslayer> quietone: also i suggest using rekonq or chromium
[11:54] <shadeslayer> those are better at displaying web pages
[11:54] <mastertheknife> Hi.. with what KDE version kubuntu 10.04 ships with?
[11:54] <quietone> shadeslayer: oops. I didn't check. I got distracted by configuring Quassel and playing with the package kit.
[11:55] <shadeslayer> quietone: hehe
[11:56] <silv3r_m00n> shadeslayer: ok me on kde
[11:56] <silv3r_m00n> but all wallpapers gone
[11:56] <shadeslayer> silv3r_m00n: ah.. thats ok
[11:56] <shadeslayer> silv3r_m00n: just rename .kde_old to .kde
[11:56] <silv3r_m00n> sure ?
[11:57] <quietone> shadeslayer: Ah, that is better now and usable.
[11:57] <shadeslayer> silv3r_m00n: yes
[11:57] <silv3r_m00n> kewlkewl
[11:57] <shadeslayer> quietone: :)
[11:57] <shadeslayer> quietone: remember the forum link i sent you? that will help to set this view as default
[11:59] <Torch> mastertheknife: according to packages.ubuntu.com (a publicl accessible web site, btw), it ships 4.4.2
[12:00] <mastertheknife> Torch: tahnks
[12:00] <mastertheknife> thanks*
[12:01] <quietone> shadeslayer: well, you are a helpful one ;-)  That link was/is helpful.
[12:01] <shadeslayer> quietone: :)
[12:03] <slow-motion> hi
[12:07] <shadeslayer> slow-motion: hey :)
[12:07] <slow-motion> hi shadeslayer
[12:08] <alab> what is responsible for this kern.log line? >> [drm] radeon defaulting to kernel modesetting.
[12:41] <anipy> hey there :)  i have kubuntu 10.04 running.  i would like to have a second user on that machine, but with the gnome DE (not gdm etc.).  is ubuntu-desktop the package i want to install?
[12:42] <anipy> or is it gnome-desktop-environment?
[12:42] <Tm_T> anipy: prolly ubuntu-desktop
[12:45] <anipy> Tm_T: thanks. i'll try ubuntu-desktop.  i guess, i can go back again to KDM after the installation.
[12:45] <Tm_T> anipy: it will ask which DM you like to use
[12:45] <Tm_T> if not, then there's a bug
[12:46] <anipy> Tm_T: cool :)
[12:46] <Tm_T> but it should not force you to use anything in anycase
[12:59] <Reign1> guys, any of you using oracle?
[13:00] <amr> hey guys ... is there is a problem with .bin files and ubuntu 10.04.... i cant execute .bin files ....say to me"No such file or directory"
[13:00] <amr> any suggestions ?
[13:02] <jose__> well
[13:03] <anipy> Tm_T: indeed, i was asked to choose between GDM and KDM :)
[13:05] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[13:05] <acocman> hello all
[13:05] <silv3r_m00n> I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 and see that fonts are now different
[13:06] <silv3r_m00n> e.g. Arial fonts doesn't appear proper , it appears kind of stretched
[13:06] <silv3r_m00n> I had been using the xml file shown at the end of this page >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts  , earlier in karmic koala
[13:06] <silv3r_m00n> moreover normal fonts are bigger than before , taking a lot of screen space
[13:07] <silv3r_m00n> how do I fix that
[13:12] <FinnArild> ... why is it, when I install a completely ordinary distribution on a completely ordinary (albeit old) pc - I suddenly have max resolution 800x600?
[13:12] <FinnArild> (followup question: how do you ever expect mainstream users to be able to use Linux?)
[13:13] <rhorstkoetter> hi. are you going to provide KDE SC 4.4.3 packages in kubuntu-backports PPA for karmic koala still?
[13:17] <Mamarok> rhorstkoetter: I doubt that
[13:18] <alab> is there a package listing page beside packages.ubuntu.com which lists the newest packages and changelogs?
[13:18] <rhorstkoetter> Mamarok: hm, pretty unfortunate. Is this an official statement or your very personal estimation?
[13:18] <Mamarok> rhorstkoetter: just my personal guess
[13:19] <rhorstkoetter> Mamarok: I see. thanks
[13:19] <Mamarok> rhorstkoetter: but there is not much reason to stay with Karmic, Lucid is an LTS version, so upgrading should not be a problem
[13:19] <rhorstkoetter> anyone here taking care of that PPA and thus able to definitely tell me?
[13:20] <Mamarok> rhorstkoetter: ask Riddell or apachelogger if they are around
[13:20] <rhorstkoetter> Mamarok: certainly but I don't see a real reason to update to 10.04 from a short term perspective. The koala works awesome here
[13:21] <Mamarok> rhorstkoetter: your choice :)
[13:21] <Riddell> rhorstkoetter: no I'm afraid we don't have the resources to provide backports to old releases
[13:22] <rhorstkoetter> Riddell: this sounds like an official statement :)
[13:22] <Mamarok> rhorstkoetter: it is
[13:22] <rhorstkoetter> Mamarok: from a long term perspective I will but you know "never touch a running (production) system"
[13:23] <rhorstkoetter> Riddell: thanks for clarification
[13:23] <Mamarok> rhorstkoetter: which also means do not upgrade to 4.4.3 if you follow that logic?
[13:23] <apachelogger> rhorstkoetter: Of course, if you want to provide backports, we'd be glad to help you create packages :)
[13:24] <rhorstkoetter> Mamarok: not really. 4.4.3 just is a bugfix release to 4.4.2, not a major version upgrade
[13:24] <rhorstkoetter> apachelogger: I fear I lack resources here as well
[13:25] <rhorstkoetter> no worries. I just wanted to know. Seems like there is a real reason thinking about a lucid upgrade now
[13:25] <apachelogger> rhorstkoetter: well, should you ever feel like learning packaging ;)
[13:25] <apachelogger> rhorstkoetter: also, KDE's definition of bugfix release is not quite what we regard as bugfix
[13:26] <rhorstkoetter> apachelogger: I was just wondering as I used KDE 4.4 backports with karmic very successfully (awesome job) the last few months and it stopped with KDE SC 4.4.2 to my surprise
[13:27] <rhorstkoetter> just wanted to know if it's actually "waiting for godot" or not ;)
[13:27] <apachelogger> :)
[13:31] <rhorstkoetter> btw, on another front I migrated my gf to kubuntu 10.04 from windows 7 on the pineview platform and I experienced some serious, I guess ACPI, issues with that
[13:31] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[13:31] <silv3r_m00n> fonts in kubuntu 10.04 appear bigger than in 9.10 , how do I fix them ?
[13:32] <rhorstkoetter> have you ever heard of that particular problem (power management, hotkeys etc)?
[13:32] <rhorstkoetter> silv3r_m00n: system settings -> appearence
[13:33] <rhorstkoetter> i.e. it isn't recognized if I plug the power while running, hotkeys have no effect, lid events aren't recognized
[13:33] <rhorstkoetter> I assume this to be an ACPI issue
[13:34] <rhorstkoetter> it's an atom n450 (pineview) akoya mini e1222
[13:37] <silv3r_m00n> how do I move the widgets in a panel , towards left or right
[13:37] <silv3r_m00n> in the bottom panel I have a show desktop widget , want to move it towards left
[13:39] <rhorstkoetter> silv3r_m00n: click on the cashew -> add widgets
[13:40] <rhorstkoetter> now you can move the widgets within the panel to the desired location
[13:40] <Spezi> whenever i start a fullscreen game with a lower resolution than on my desktop, the positions of the icons on my desktop get messed up... is there any way to make them stay where they are?
[13:41] <Spezi> appearently ive never used a fullscreen game before, because i cant tell if i experienced that behaviour before the update to lucid ;)
[13:43] <silv3r_m00n> rhorstkoetter: cool
[13:43] <rhorstkoetter> silv3r_m00n: yw
[13:45] <silv3r_m00n> rhorstkoetter: but big fonts is a problem
[13:46] <okapi14> hello all
[13:46] <rhorstkoetter> silv3r_m00n: in what regard?
[13:46] <silv3r_m00n> know what , I used size 9 , now the same size appears big , and size 8 appears too small
[13:46] <silv3r_m00n> font sizing is out of proportion , rendering of arial , tahoma etc fonts is stupid
[13:47] <rhorstkoetter> silv3r_m00n: try to play with dpi settings and anti-aliasing
[13:47] <okapi14> I just install Kubntu 10.04 on my PC and I am lost. Where to set the root password? How to configure or update package?
[13:47] <rhorstkoetter> okapi14: there's no root account in ubuntu by default
[13:47] <silv3r_m00n> dpi forced to be 96 , same as before , played with antialiasing a lot , but fonts are bigger than before , say around 20% bigger
[13:48] <rhorstkoetter> okapi14: you may use "sudo passwd root" to enable it
[13:49] <rhorstkoetter> okapi14: packages are handled with kpackagekit if you prefer GUIs
[13:49] <rhorstkoetter> I myself use apt-get and friends
[13:50] <Spezi> rhorstkoetter: wasn'/t kpackagekit replaced with software-center or something?
[13:50] <rhorstkoetter> silv3r_m00n: not use about that one. I don't know about other opportunities like font size, dpi and anti-aliasing
[13:50] <rhorstkoetter> Spezi: in Ubuntu, not in Kubuntu
[13:50] <Spezi> yeah, well, we're in #kubuntu here? ;)
[13:50] <rhorstkoetter> Spezi: but all of these are frontends to apt-get
[13:50] <rhorstkoetter> Spezi: seems we are
[13:50] <Tm_T> Spezi: yes, so it's kapckagekit for us (:
[13:50] <rhorstkoetter> :)
[13:51] <Spezi> so why do i have software-center then? :o
[13:51] <rhorstkoetter> Spezi: cause you installed it?
[13:52] <Spezi> no i didn'/t ... i always do package stuff without gui
[13:52] <Spezi> well .. who cares
[13:54] <okapi14> rhorstkoetter: ok, the root is set but the packagekit seems very basic. There is nothing better in GUI?
[13:54] <rhorstkoetter> okapi14: I don't use GUIs for package managment. you may install synaptic
[13:54] <Spezi> funny enough i don'/t have kpackagekit.. well, again .. who cares
[13:56] <okapi14> rhorstkoetter: pretty good the apt-get, but how you do to find new software out there for you to install them?
[13:56] <Spezi> hm, this one's getting weird.. software-center depends on nautilus which i'm absolutely sure i haven'/t installed xD
[13:56] <Spezi> okapi14: well, you should know what you want ;)
[13:56] <rhorstkoetter> okapi14: try "apt-cache search"
[13:57] <okapi14> spezi: :)) some time you need to try new stuff...
[13:57] <silv3r_m00n> doesn't kubuntu 10.04 kde use .fonts.conf file for font configuration ?
[13:58] <Spezi> okapi14: yeah, well, then i google whatever i need, pick out the one that serves my wishes best, and then get it using apt-get ;)
[13:58] <rhorstkoetter> Spezi: I don't know what you did but I have kpackagekit with a fresh 10.04 install, same in 9.10
[13:59] <Spezi> rhorstkoetter: yeah, i remember i had kpackagekit in 9.10 .. something got messed up during the update i would say .. well.. i don'/t really care. just thought it funny .. as i said, i use apt-get and friends anyway
[13:59] <okapi14> spezi: synaptic work better for the base, help to setup a new system fast. then the google work after. :) like also the "apt-search cache" option...
[14:00] <rhorstkoetter> Spezi: same here. I like my shell ;)
[14:01] <okapi14> rhorstkoetter: thanks buddy, I was about to delete Kubuntu...:)
[14:01] <rhorstkoetter> okapi14: yw
[14:01] <rhorstkoetter> okapi14: never give up too fast ;)
[14:02] <okapi14> rhorstkoetter: I will keep that in mind ;) thanks
[14:02] <rhorstkoetter> okapi14: ... and avoid the pineview platform for now .. this seems to have real issues
[14:02] <rhorstkoetter> :(
[14:03] <okapi14> rhorstkoetter: what is the pineview?
[14:03] <rhorstkoetter> okapi14: the new atom platform, pine trail netbooks with n450 processor
[14:04] <okapi14> rhorstkoetter: ok
[14:04] <rhorstkoetter> my gf bought one of these and I have big troubles to get rid of Win 7
[14:04] <rhorstkoetter> i.e. to get linux orking
[14:04] <rhorstkoetter> s/orking/working
[14:04] <vuxi> Hi
[14:10] <vuxi> what ***** programmed the birthday reminder in the contact calender. Total crap
[14:10] <vuxi> all information is stored in a vcf file.
[14:10] <vuxi> Person a: born june 1986 --> calender displays 24 years. Correct person has its 24th birthday
[14:10] <vuxi> Person b: born july 1985 --> calender displays 24 years. No  person has its 25th birthday
[14:12] <rhorstkoetter> vuxi: report a bug to upstream
[14:29] <boby> hello
[14:31] <boby> anybody alive
[14:31] <boby> ?
[14:32] <iconmefisto> !ask
[14:48] <Benkinooby> hi, i want to set up a vnc session my self (not using pinky-winky kde-tools). this for, i connect by vpn to a network, where i get a public ip (no problem, works) and want to start a vnc server, that displays my monitor. up to now, i only managed to view gui (on display :1) which is not my gui. how can i share my desktop, instead of opening a new session for the remote user?
[14:50] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[14:50] <silv3r_m00n> in kde arial font is looking like this >> http://img532.imageshack.us/i/fontfb.png/
[14:50] <silv3r_m00n> arial isn't supposed to look like that
[14:50] <silv3r_m00n> how do I fix it ?
[14:52] <iconmefisto> silv3r_m00n: what's wrong? is it another font? looks like arial to me
[14:52] <silv3r_m00n> arial is a bit tall
[14:52] <silv3r_m00n> it isn't round like that
[14:53] <silv3r_m00n> look at the big white box
[14:53] <silv3r_m00n> The Quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
[14:53] <silv3r_m00n> that line
[14:53] <iconmefisto> silv3r_m00n: why are you forcing fonts to 96 DPI? maybe switching off forced font size will help?
[14:54] <silv3r_m00n> done enough playing with dpi and antialiasing settings
[14:54] <silv3r_m00n> nothing is helping
[14:54] <silv3r_m00n> in karmic the fonts were really good , upgraded to lucid today and fonts appear strange
[14:54] <silv3r_m00n> some have become tall , some short  , some roundish etc
[14:55] <silv3r_m00n> I have written a small post about this here >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9254793#post9254793
[15:05] <iconmefisto> silv3r_m00n: which graphics driver are you using?
[15:05] <silv3r_m00n> intel dg35ec motherboard
[15:05] <silv3r_m00n> ubuntu installed the drivers itself
[15:06] <iconmefisto> and your screen res is detected correctly?
[15:07] <silv3r_m00n> everything else is fine
[15:07] <silv3r_m00n> just this droid font is slightly taller , say 20%
[15:07] <silv3r_m00n> not that its looking too  bad , but earlier it was too good
[15:07] <silv3r_m00n> I mean in karmic koala
[15:08] <eagles0513875> hey BluesKaj
[15:08] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[15:08] <BluesKaj> hey eagles0513875
[15:08] <iconmefisto> silv3r_m00n: do you have a lucid livecd? I'm wondering if the problem is actually lucid, or something wrong with config files after the upgrade
[15:09] <silv3r_m00n> no , I downloaded the alternate cd and ran it
[15:10] <progre55> he people
[15:11] <silv3r_m00n> progre55: ya tell
[15:11] <progre55> hey*
[15:11] <silv3r_m00n> progre55: ya , what next
[15:11] <progre55> I've noticed that doing some mouse actions on the upper-left corner of the screen, you get that window-list like in mac =)
[15:12] <silv3r_m00n> ya you get
[15:12] <silv3r_m00n> so ?
[15:12] <progre55> but I'm having the hardest time repeating that.. it happens like once out of 10 tries =)
[15:12] <silv3r_m00n> hmm, something wrong with your mouse
[15:13] <silv3r_m00n> are the other mouse actions fine elsewhere ?
[15:13] <progre55> what are the exact actions? do you need to scroll? or just point the pointer on the corner?
[15:13] <progre55> or what?
[15:13] <progre55> silv3r_m00n: well I'm using my laptop touchpad.. so that might be the problem)
[15:13] <silv3r_m00n> I see
[15:14] <progre55> will need to try it using a usb mouse
[15:14] <silv3r_m00n> are you new to laptop touchpads ?
[15:14] <silv3r_m00n> ya that's a good idea
[15:14] <progre55> huh, I've been using laptops for 3 years now )
[15:14] <silv3r_m00n> gr8 , then the laptop must be old
[15:14] <progre55> nope.. but this one a month ago.. a new sony vaio
[15:14] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[15:15] <progre55> silv3r_m00n: so do I just need to drag the pointer to the corner?
[15:15] <progre55> or any specific actions?
[15:15] <silv3r_m00n> yes , that shud do
[15:15] <silv3r_m00n> I mean click too , like a tap
[15:15] <progre55> oh, let me try that )
[15:16] <progre55> oh, awesome! now I got 5 out of 5 tries :)
[15:16] <iconmefisto> progre55: you need to get the mouse all the way in the top left corner, as far as it will go
[15:16] <progre55> iconmefisto: thanks man )
[15:17] <iconmefisto> progre55: btw, you can configure these actions in systemsettings, desktop, screen edges
[15:18] <progre55> oh cool
[15:23] <shane2peru> does someone know of a drop down terminal that is borderless for kde something similar to guake for gnome?
[15:23] <Tm_T> yaquake?
[15:23] <DarthFrog> shane2peru: Yes, it's called "yakuake"
[15:23] <Tm_T> yea, that one
[15:24] <shane2peru> ahh, thanks DarthFrog
[15:24] <DarthFrog> you're welcome.
[15:24] <shane2peru> making another attempt to learn and stick with kde, like the new 4 look.
[15:25] <DarthFrog> There's a lot to like about KDE 4 now.
[15:25]  * Tm_T is just testing kwin tiling and tabbing
[15:26] <DarthFrog> Though I do wish more of the Ubuntu innovations made it into Kubuntu.
[15:26] <shane2peru> DarthFrog: yes, I always liked the new 4 look, tried it early on, but wasn't ready to switch over, just switched back to t-Bird instead of evolution, that was holding me back because of syncing my Palm treo with evolution and desktop integration
[15:27] <DarthFrog> shane2peru: I use Thunderbird myself, in preference to kmail.
[15:27] <shane2peru> DarthFrog: well, believe me when I say I didn't like evolution for its mail features! lol, only for desktop integration and palm syncing
[15:27] <DarthFrog> Kmail is a great mail client for everything except HTML mail.  It sux for HMTL.
[15:28] <shane2peru> I will still have to look into kontact and calendar for syncing with palm, and syncing with google, but later.
[15:28] <DarthFrog> Do you use kpilot?
[15:28] <shane2peru> DarthFrog: yes, I used it before, and evolution was a little better at that part, I never could get a signature into kmail
[15:28] <shane2peru> DarthFrog: well, not yet, but plan on it.
[15:29] <shane2peru> I'm done distro hopping, but not quite done desktop hopping, lol. :)
[15:29] <DarthFrog> Well, that's the thing.  Whether you choose KDE or GNOME, you can still use the other's apps.
[15:30] <shane2peru> DarthFrog: yes, but I really hate mixing them, they work, but there are always little annoyances for me.
[15:31] <shane2peru> DarthFrog: does kontact and calendar for kde sync with google fairly easily?
[15:31] <DarthFrog> :-)  Nothing's ferpect.
[15:31] <shane2peru> lol, that is true.
[15:31] <DarthFrog> No idea, I don't use that facility.
[15:31] <shane2peru> so long as that is understood, everyone will be happier.
[15:32] <DarthFrog> You can always ask for a refund.  Both KDE and GNOME come with a money-back guarantee. :-)
[15:32] <shane2peru> however with windows you had to pay for the imperfections!  lol
[15:32] <shane2peru> lol, my thoughts exactly
[15:41] <iconmefisto> !info akonadi-kde-resource-googledata
[15:42] <iconmefisto> shane2peru: that package makes syncing google calendar (and google contacts?) with kde pim programs relatively simple
[15:43] <shane2peru> iconmefisto: ok, great, I will have to look at that, I just opened KDE Pim and it says that Akonadi has problems so contacts didn't show up, any quick fixes?
[15:44] <Torch> shane2peru: http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_4.4/Troubleshooting
[15:44] <iconmefisto> shane2peru: none that I know of. I had problems with akonadi up until lucid. now it "just works" and I'm afraid to touch any settings :)
[15:46] <shane2peru> Torch: ok, thanks, I will look at it, I really haven't used it, so if I sudo apt-get purge akonadi and then re-install it, in theory that should fix any errors?
[15:46] <Torch> shane2peru: not at all.
[15:47] <shane2peru> Torch: ok, well I will have to look through the documents, akonadi is something new, or at least new to me.
[16:00] <mavErik> hi, someone know an application to convert mkv file to avi?
[16:01] <iconmefisto> mavErik: vlc could probably do it
[16:01] <mavErik> i have to open the mkv with vlc and save it in avi?
[16:02] <iconmefisto> mavErik: I think there is something like "convert and save" in vlc's file menu
[16:03] <DarthFrog> Wouldn't that result in a major loss in video quality?
[16:03] <mavErik> iconmefisto: oks, thanks! now i see
[16:21] <Lylat> Hi, how I can remove folders for places in Menu Kick Off?
[16:22] <Lylat> Hi, how I can remove folders to Places in Menu?
[16:23] <Torch> Lylat: in dolphin
[16:23] <Lylat> Yes
[16:23] <Lylat> In kick Off Menu
[16:24] <Lylat> In Computer--->Places
[17:16] <Reign1> so there is no working skype for 10.04 yet?
[17:16] <Kolia> Reign1: i'm talking to a friend on skype at the moment
[17:16] <Kolia> and he is on 10.04
[17:16] <Kolia> so obviously there is.
[17:17] <Zorix> i cant seem to assign meta+e to dolphin in the menu editor, it says its binded but when i press meta+e it just types e to whatever textbox im focused in, any idea why?
[17:17] <silvermoon> hi there
[17:17] <Gamarok_> well you can use some plugin for kopete and pidgin if there is'nt
[17:17] <BluesKaj> Reign1, I have skype static version installed on lucid...works fine
[17:17] <silvermoon> are there font problems in 10.04
[17:18] <silvermoon> in 9.10 fonts were very good , but after upgrading to 10.04 i see that fonts are that beautiful
[17:18] <silvermoon> some of them are taller , some are shorter , for the same settings
[17:19] <Zorix> seems fine to me
[17:19] <Zorix> but i didnt upgrade
[17:19] <BluesKaj> Reign1, look for skype_static-2.1.0.81 , it's an open source file in bz2
[17:19] <Reign1> BluesKaj: ok thanks
[17:20] <silvermoon> i am sure there is some problem with fonts in 10.04
[17:20] <silvermoon> i tried many fonts , most are looking non-perfect like they were in 9.10
[17:21] <BluesKaj> silvermoon, are they legible ?
[17:21] <silvermoon> ya good more or less , not that bad , but earlier they were too good
[17:23] <BluesKaj> silvermoon, like I say about minor issues (to me at least) , what do ya want for free ? :)
[17:24] <BluesKaj> silvermoon, i'm sure these issues will be resolved soon , this being an LTS version there will more attn paid to fixing fonts.
[17:25] <silvermoon1> i got dc
[17:25] <Gamarok_> BluesKaj lisen i gotta go mate, oh and if you see eagles tell him i said hi anyway you takecare man.
[17:25] <BluesKaj> ok Gamarok_
[17:26] <kubunteroo> Hello Having a little issue with the live CD apparently it's spittin a resolution or refresh rate too high for my monitor
[17:27] <kubunteroo> when it flips to X my monitor light starts blinking
[17:28] <kubunteroo> Any idea how to get it to calm down a little
[17:32] <rekoner> what is this
[17:32] <rekoner> quassel --help
[17:33] <rekoner> hmmm
[17:33] <Pici> rekoner: This is the Kubuntu Support Channel
[17:33] <BluesKaj> kubunteroo, can you see the options page , i think there's ar res choice in the help section
[17:34] <Reign1> how to install bitmap fonts and make them permanent on my terminal/console
[17:34] <Reign1> ?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> rekoner, try #quassel
[17:34] <kubunteroo> BluesKaj: the options page?
[17:35] <rekoner> what is a support channel
[17:35] <rekoner> ??
[17:35] <kubunteroo> rekoner: if you need help with anything
[17:35] <kubunteroo>  we can help as long as it's Kubuntu related
[17:35] <BluesKaj> kubunteroo, yes after boot , the options choices that come up , where it asks what you would like to do
[17:36] <kubunteroo> So if you have questions or need help fixing something that's broken we can do that
[17:36] <rekoner> ok   i have a question how am i talking to you people
[17:36] <kubunteroo> BluesKaj: Ah the menu. Right safe graphics mode
[17:36] <kubunteroo>  Forgot about that haven't used it in ages
[17:37] <kubunteroo> rekoner: This is an IRC channel. Don't need to know much about it except that it's a server that allows "rooms" for people to talk in
[17:37] <BluesKaj> kubunteroo, you may be able to set a lower res there
[17:37] <rekoner> why do you need a low res kubunteroo
[17:37] <kubunteroo> rekoner: If you have a topic that you want to talk about there is a "room" for it and people with the same interest. This one is about Kubuntu
[17:37] <rekoner> whats the problem
[17:38] <kubunteroo> rekoner: My monitor is very old. It's not ready for the high resolution that the Live CD is capable of so it jsut shuts it self off
[17:38] <rekoner> no no i'll tell you what to do
[17:38] <kubunteroo> I'm going to reboot and see if I can get it to give me a lower resolution and then I can come back and talk here in colour :)
[17:38] <rekoner> while booting replace the text quite splash by nomodeset
[17:38] <rekoner> it'll work
[17:38] <rekoner> trust me
[17:39] <BluesKaj> rekoner,  if you need help with quassel, the #quassel room might help
[17:39] <rekoner> i getting the hang of this
[17:39] <BluesKaj> rekoner, quiet splash
[17:40] <rekoner> yeah it appears when you enter your cd like in a line that you can edit
[17:40] <rekoner> or i think you can press f6 and select nomodeset from there
[17:40] <rekoner> i had this problem too
[17:41] <rekoner> yeah press f6 and select nomodeset
[17:42] <rekoner> is everybody here from sri lanka
[17:42] <rekoner> ???
[17:42] <BluesKaj> everybody/
[17:42] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:42] <rekoner> i mean are all of you from sri lanka
[17:42] <apparle> no... I'm from India
[17:42] <BluesKaj> rekoner, of course not
[17:43] <rekoner> ooh india thats close
[17:43] <shadeslayer> hehe.. im from india too :P
[17:43] <shadeslayer> rekoner: yeah you could just fly over for help :P
[17:43] <bazhang> !ot
[17:44] <BluesKaj> rekoner, what made you think that everyone here is from sri lanaka ?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> oops sri lanka
[17:44] <rekoner> i dont know i thought it was a local support channel
[17:44] <rekoner> sorry about that
[17:45] <apparle> :D
[17:45] <shadeslayer> rekoner: nope.. this is the general support channel :)
[17:45] <BluesKaj> local , like global local maybe :)
[17:45] <BluesKaj> this planet :)
[17:45] <rekoner> how do i go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:46] <shadeslayer> rekoner: /join #channel-name
[17:46] <BluesKaj> rekoner, click on it
[17:47] <BluesKaj> bbl....
[17:48] <rekoner> what does bbl mean
[17:50] <apparle> rekoner: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Internet_slang
[17:52] <rekoner>  vuuuuuuuazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzynv
[17:52] <rekoner> sry abt that
[17:52] <kubuntero> rekoner: hi
[17:52] <kubuntero> BluesKaj: no go
[17:53] <rekoner> did the nomodeset work
[17:53] <rekoner> kubuntero did it work
[17:54] <kubuntero> rekoner: Oh that's what nomodeset is?
[17:55] <kubuntero> I dropped to single user and tried failsafe graphics
[17:55] <kubuntero> which broke something. Seems to expect gdm >_>
[17:55] <kubuntero> Ok lets try nomodeset
[17:55] <rekoner> u do that man
[17:55] <rekoner> all the best
[17:58] <rekoner> u there kubuntero
[17:58] <kubuntero> rekoner: yes
[17:58] <kubuntero> reading up on nomodeset
[17:59] <rekoner> what does that mean reading up
[17:59] <rekoner> i am sorry if my english is a little rusty
[18:00] <kubuntero> rekoner: I just went on google and searched for it to see what nomodeset does
[18:00] <rekoner> oh and?
[18:00] <kubuntero> rekoner: Your english is good. Which language do you speak?
[18:01] <kubuntero> rekoner: Seems that will solve the problem but let us see :)
[18:01] <rekoner> my native toungue is sinhala
[18:02] <kubuntero> Ah ok :)
[18:02] <rekoner> well lets keep our fingers crossed and hope it works it did it for me
[18:03] <kubuntero> Great thanks :)
[18:03] <kubuntero>  that's Sri Lanka?
[18:05] <kubuntero> !lk
[18:05] <rekoner> what is ubottu
[18:05] <kubuntero> rekoner: A robot. Does helpful tasks
[18:05] <kubuntero> like welcoming people
[18:05] <kubuntero> !hi | rekoner
[18:06] <kubuntero> Also will kick people who are being too noisy
[18:06] <kubuntero> !msgthebot
[18:06] <iconmefisto> kubuntero: instead of nomodeset, you could also try set gfxpayload=1024x768 (or whatever is your monitor's native resolution)
[18:06] <kubuntero> rekoner: You can talk with ubottu by doing the above ^^
[18:07] <kubuntero> iconmefisto: ah thanks. gfxpayload is really undiscoverable : ) but useful it sounds like
[18:07] <rekoner> why would i want to talk to a bot
[18:07] <kubuntero> iconmefisto: Away I go
[18:07] <kubuntero> rekoner: it has lots of information on various ubuntu and kubuntu related topics
[18:07] <kubuntero> !kde3
[18:07] <kubuntero> For example
[18:08] <kubuntero> I'm off
[18:08] <iconmefisto> kubuntero: just remember it's "set gfxpayload=1024x768" you need the word "set" there
[18:08] <rekoner> i think he left
[18:09] <rekoner> iconmesfisto
[18:09] <iconmefisto> !tab | rekoner
[18:13] <rekoner> ubottu:  i dont like you bot
[18:14] <rekoner> damn right you aren't
[18:14] <bazhang> rekoner, do you have a support issue?
[18:14] <bazhang> rekoner, chat in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[18:15] <rekoner> bazhang:  alright .......
[18:15] <okapi14> rhorstkoetter: are you still here?
[18:18] <SJ_Zero> Hi folks, I've got a question. Is there a widget to get a menu with bookmarks on my kicker bar? (think it's still called that....)
[18:18] <okapi14> anyone knows where to find a list of repositories?
[18:18] <bazhang> !repos
[18:19] <kubuntero> nomodeset works wel enough :)
[18:19] <bazhang> okapi14, on your system? the list? or ones worldwide
[18:19] <RaGNORAK> hi i am having a problem with the lucid lynx
[18:20] <okapi14> bazhang: the list and the worldwide for different applications
[18:20] <RaGNORAK> the kubuntu boot up screen was working properly till i installed my graphics driver now it looks very sketchy
[18:21] <bazhang> okapi14, well the command in konsole is cat /etc/apt/sources.list to view them; did you need to add some repos? find faster ones?
[18:21] <SJ_Zero> I'm setting up a computer for a friend, and he's used to having the "favorites" menu on the start menu. I'd like to give him something similar, and I'm sure I remember being able to do it in KDE3...
[18:22] <rekoner> yeah i have a probelm too whenever i activate a drive my pc would boot up but then it would go blank apprently nvida185 doesnt support g210m type card and a lot of people are having this problem but the nvida site says tha 195 should work but i cant find it in the repos
[18:22] <kubuntero> rekoner: thanks :)
[18:22] <c3l> how can I set 24 hour time for the standard clock on the standard panel?
[18:22] <okapi14> bazhang: i want find some repositories and add them
[18:22] <bazhang> okapi14, which ones?
[18:22] <rekoner> kubuntero:  did it work
[18:23] <kubuntero> Yes
[18:23] <kubuntero> I have the GUI now
[18:23] <rekoner> good for you man
[18:23] <okapi14> bazhang: repositories for opera browser and Abiword.
[18:24] <apparle> SJ_Zero: when you click on kmenu, there is already a favourites menu
[18:24] <bazhang> !find abiword
[18:24] <SJ_Zero> That's favurite applications, I'm talking internet bookmarks.
[18:24] <bazhang> okapi14, abiword is already in the repos
[18:25] <okapi14> bazhang: thanks
[18:25] <bazhang> !opera
[18:25] <bazhang> okapi14, ^^
[18:26] <apparle> SJ_Zero: I am not sure of this but check if there is a widget for your purpose.
[18:26] <rekoner> kubuntero:  mate after the installation press esc during grub load and press e to edit and replace quite splash with nomodeset and press ctrl x to boot after that you might wanna install the current driver for your card
[18:26] <SJ_Zero> I've tried searching, but I can't find anything. I find that really surprising, since as I mentioned I'm certain I had that menu in kde3.
[18:26] <kubuntero> rekoner: Yeah I think the current driver works too well :)
[18:26] <okapi14> bazhang: yes, opera browser. This one I find it. thanks again
[18:28] <rekoner> kubuntero: oh that's good anyway man i gotta go it's like 11 30 here and i've had a really big day so you take care man
[18:29] <kubuntero> rekoner: later. Hope your driver issue gets a solution
[18:31] <rekoner> yeah i hope it does too anyways talk to you tommorow good night bro
[18:52] <vadi01> any lenovo t510 users here?
[18:52] <kubuntero> vadi01: Ask your question
[18:53] <guillom> hi
[18:53] <kubuntero> !hi | guillom
[18:53] <guillom> is MySQL automatically installed when installing Kubuntu, to allow Akonadi to work?
[18:54] <vadi01> kubuntero: need help with the finget print reader. which software do i use for it and also te nvidea card is not getting detected. when i click hardware. says no proprietory drivers found. how to solve that?
[19:00] <sheldon> amarok needs taglib 1.6.3 to work well please update
[19:01] <edgard01> hola
[19:15] <vadi01> guys in the think pad ibm does the antishock thing work where the drive is locked when laptop is moved?
[19:18] <vadi01> guys i bought a lenovo thinkpad. please tell me is it possible to use the finger print driver?
[19:18] <vadi01> i mean to use the finger print?
[19:21] <Pici> vadi01: Take a look here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader_with_ThinkFinger
[19:21] <Pici> Also thinkwiki.org is great for linux/thinkpad information
[19:23] <vadi01> Pici: yea but i get an error usb device not found when i run tf-tool --acquire
[19:28] <kalipus> hey what is the default calculator on kde?
[19:30] <kalipus> where are the notes from the plasma widget are saved?
[19:31] <vadi01> whats the path to edit grub menu?
[19:33] <Twey> kalipus: kcalc
[19:33] <kalipus> no
[19:33] <kalipus> because it is not installed :)
[19:34] <esperegu> anyone can help me on disabling emulate3buttons on X ? It worked on 9.10 but now I can't get it to work
[19:39] <slow-motion> hi
[19:42] <cuznt> E: ubuntustudio-audio: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[19:43] <cuznt> i get that trying to uninstall
[19:44] <cuznt> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ubuntustudio-audio_0.70_amd64.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[19:56] <gott> vvv
[19:58] <ratdog> how can i enable desktop cube?
[20:01] <ratdog> lol
[20:05] <avenger> nabend allerseits
[20:07] <ratdog> how can i enable desktop cube?
[20:08] <Reign1> guys, how to make my panel/taskbar transparent?
[20:17] <derekul> dose anyone know how i get dvd's to play on kubuntu
[20:17] <genii> !dvd
[20:19] <genii> derekul: Also might want to see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[20:21] <crazy6> a packge is broken! the sky is falling!
[20:24] <madsdyd> Anyone that can can help me with boot problems? After upgrading to (k)ubuntu 10.4, I am unable to boot successfully to anything but init=/bin/bash. Seems the new init stuff enter some kind of weird loop
[20:48] <rome> hi room!
[20:49] <lelamal> hi all, I was wondering: can I deactivate tray icons for bluetooth and printer? They show at startup even if I don't have bluetooth, nor a printer connected
[20:53] <raindog> lelamal: Right click on the tray.  Then look for autohide entry on the left side.
[20:53] <raindog> In System Tray Settings.
[20:54] <lelamal> raindog: thanks for that, I know it
[20:54] <lelamal> but I'd rather not have them appear at all
[20:54] <lelamal> is there a way, or do we need to bear with them?
[20:55] <rome> lelamal: if you don't need it, you can uninstall it
[20:55] <lelamal> rome: you see, I do have a printer, I don't want to uninstall it. I just don't see a reason for the icons to show regardless
[20:56] <lelamal> the tray is so cluttered with useless icons, that if I unhide it it fills half the lower panel
[20:58] <cuznt> anything i try to update install i get E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ubuntustudio-audio_0.70_amd64.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[20:58] <cuznt> i can do nothing
[20:58] <rome> i just wanted to say, that my new kernel 6...23 won't boot. update failed. X won't start. i am still at 22. but thx for fixing the bug with the kubuntu boot screen!
[20:58] <rome> lelamal: i don't know how to get rid of that
[20:58] <rome> lelamal: but you can uninstall the bluetooth thing, like i did
[20:59] <lelamal> rome: yeah, that's true at least, thanks for that.
[20:59] <cuznt> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) <~~ terminal error
[20:59] <Reign1> guys, how to make my panel/taskbar transparent?
[21:01] <lelamal> Reign1: unless I'm mistaken, it gets transparent when you activate desktop effects in system settings
[21:01] <Reign1> got it, thanks
[21:03] <lelamal> you're welcome
[21:22] <boris> two questions about the new kde: sometimes a pop-up window hides in the back (it took me a week to notice!) i can't find the setting for that!
[21:22] <boris> and what is the deal with window tabbing?? how do i turn it on / use it??
[21:23] <dolomite> boris: what kind of setting do you need to find for the popup window? is it a popup from your browser?
[21:23] <boris> for example, kpackagekit asking for a password]
[21:23] <boris> for example, kpackagekit asking for a password
[21:23] <dolomite> boris: doesn't it flash from your taskbar?
[21:23] <liddell> To use window tabbing you can just right click on a titlebar and there should be an option to group it with another
[21:24] <boris> dolomite: i don't use the taskbar
[21:24] <boris> liddell: there is no such option anywhere
[21:24] <dolomite> boris: OK, then it might be in systemsettings under notifications or something. you might be able to configure it to be on top.
[21:25] <markit> hi, I've added ppa repo to lynx, but doint aptitude update I have: bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.; Err http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages ; Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[21:25] <markit> any tip?
[21:25] <liddell> Hum, well I'd check it out myself and help you further but I can't log in right now :P
[21:25] <markit> (was trying to upgrade to kde 4.4.3)
[21:26] <boris> dolomite: it is not in any of the four in general > look & feel. looked there already. maybe did not find it, looking again at the moment
[21:26] <blue112> Hi here.
[21:26] <dolomite> markit: i thought the ppa is "ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa"
[21:27] <blue112> I have a problem with Kate using sftp : When I try to save a file, I have a access denied message to a ".part" file... I have all rights on the directory and the file. What can I do to fix that ?
[21:27] <dolomite> boris: or under system notifications?
[21:28] <markit> dolomite: in /etc/apt I have deb "http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu lucid main" is it ok?
[21:28] <boris> dolomite: as i said, i did not find it there, or in window behaviour, or in appearance, or in desktop. i have been looking (and googling) for about 45mins now. probably there but too dumb to see it
[21:29] <dolomite> markit: you're just trying to install KDE 4.4.3 right? I believe all you need is "ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa"
[21:29] <dolomite> boris: that kind of stuff always comes to me after I've looked at it for long. I'm not on my K machine right now. sorry.
[21:29] <guillom> Hi. Is the mysql-server package installed during Kubuntu's installation? If so, when is the MySQL root account created?
[21:29] <markit> dolomite: "add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa" produces that repo in the sources.list
[21:30] <liddell> So when I opened my notebook today, it had been on and shut all night, I just got an illuminated black screen, and rebooting now takes me to the terminal. I've tried using dpkg-reconfigure --all just to kind of refresh any settings and I've tried booting a liveCD and replacing my xorg.conf with the xorg.conf.failsafe and I'm still getting the terminal. I'm stuck, I don't know how to diagnose this - Any ideas?
[21:30] <boris> it's fine, at least i noticed.
[21:30] <boris> dolomite: thank you for the help anyway
[21:32] <dolomite> markit: for the sake of troubleshooting, try commenting out that line and adding ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa
[21:32] <markit> dolomite: what do you mean with "adding ppa:.."? where?
[21:33] <markit> in sources.list? is not the right string format
[21:33] <dolomite> liddell: so if you type "sudo service kdm start" from the terminal, what happens?
[21:33] <markit> dolomite: can't you just check your sources.list and/or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-ppa-lucid.list ?
[21:34] <liddell> dolomite: "start: Job is already running: kdm"
[21:34] <dolomite> markit: what do you want me to check for?
[21:34] <boris> dolomite: a general problem of kubuntu at the moment are the relatively sparse help files. especially the user interface settings. some of the options are not even mentioned, and often there is no clear explanation. clicking around and trying out often doesn't help, as those settings only matter in weird cases, and i can't even figure out when...
[21:34] <markit> dolomite:  if in the repo you have the same " deb "http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu lucid main", and try an aptitude update to check if you got the same error I have
[21:35] <dolomite> liddell: let's have a look at your ~/.xsession-errors. please post to paste.ubuntu.com
[21:35] <liddell> just type that and post it there?
[21:35] <dolomite> markit: I'm not on my K machine right now
[21:35] <boris> dolomite: bitching about it is not helping anyone, i know
[21:36] <dolomite> boris: I agree with you. KDE4 has a lot of cool features but, most of the time, I'm not interested in messing around until I understand them.
[21:36] <markit> dolomite: ok, thanks anyway
[21:37] <dolomite> liddell, you have no graphics right? so you're only in command line?
[21:37] <belak> So, how can I remove the notifications in the systray for kopete?
[21:38] <liddell> Yes, although I could boot into a liveCD. I'm using my work station right now
[21:38] <dolomite> liddell, it's your choice but I'd like to see the output of "cat ~/.xsession-errors"
[21:38] <dolomite> so you can either use pastebinit from command line or do it in a graphical environment
[21:39] <avihay> any one here uses iBus? how do I make the trey icon display the current language? or is there another way to show the current language, like an applet?
[21:39] <Reign1> cant set desktop effects, what to do, change X settings or?
[21:40] <liddell> Alright, I'm a lot more comfortable in a graphical environment so just a minute. I really appreciate the help.
[21:40] <dolomite> liddell: I'll do what I can
[21:43] <valentin_> eh
[21:44] <valentin_> les gens
[21:46] <dolomite> !fr | valentin_
[21:47] <Fr-val> de rien
[21:47] <opengeekv2> hello
[21:47] <Fr-val> salut
[21:48] <opengeekv2> someone  could help me with a problem wtih a recent installed kubuntu lucid desktop i386?
[21:50] <jbicha> anyone having problems with Gnome apps in KDE 4.4.3 ?
[21:54] <opengeekv2> @jibicha i don't know
[21:54] <opengeekv2> @jibicha I have porblems after the lasts updates
[21:54] <jbicha> for instance, gwibber won't start and I have an issue with gramps
[21:54] <opengeekv2> @jibicha the X don start
[21:57] <jbicha> oh, gwibber won't start on 4.4.2 either, I guess it's just the gramps issue then for me
[21:58] <mime> hi all, does anyone know how to delete the ''Documents'' folder content in ubuntu  9.04, thank u! it says i dont have permissions... tried in properties but no result :( thnx.
[22:00] <opengeekv2> @mime
[22:00] <mime> heeey
[22:01] <avihay> how can you setup kubuntu to work with multiple languages like in windows?
[22:01] <gionnico> Hello!
[22:01] <opengeekv2> @mime you have to open nautilus with root permissions
[22:01] <gionnico> What's better ubuntu+kde or kubuntu?
[22:01] <dolomite> !best | gionnico
[22:01] <mime> cool
[22:01] <mime> thnx
[22:01] <mime> 1 sec
[22:02] <opengeekv2> @mime open a terminal and type sudo nautilus
[22:02] <gionnico> what's more stable?
[22:02] <avihay> gionnico: kubuntu-desktop installs some extra stuff you'd want with kde
[22:02] <mime> yeah, in ''run'' are with chain
[22:02] <opengeekv2> @mime but why do you want to erase the Documents Folder?
[22:03] <mime> only its content
[22:03] <gionnico> avihay: but everybody use ubuntu
[22:03] <gionnico> so if there's a bug it will be fixed in ubuntu first
[22:03] <gionnico> and ubuntu has more recent software
[22:03] <avihay> installing kubuntu-desktop and all the recommended packages is (supposed to be exacly) the same as installing kubuntu
[22:03] <Reign1> guys, how to make transparent panel on 10.04?
[22:03] <blue112> I have a problem with Kate using sftp : When I try to save a file, I have a access denied message to a ".part" file... I have all rights on the directory and the file. What can I do to fix that ?
[22:03] <mime> because they accidentaly dropped there the files of audio and theyre very heavy, i have them in my desktop also, u know? twice
[22:04] <avihay> kubuntu and ubuntu have the same package source - the canonical repositories, so they update at the same time
[22:04] <opengeekv2> @mime instead of ereasing the folder erase the contents
[22:04] <mime> yeah, i did it
[22:04] <gionnico> ah ok so if i have ubuntu
[22:04] <mime> maybe i explain wrong
[22:04] <gionnico> i can just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:04] <dolomite> Reign1, that's controlled by your desktop theme
[22:04] <gionnico> and that's it
[22:04] <gionnico> then i can also unmerge gnome?
[22:04] <mime> now it is ok, then for ur kindness
[22:05] <mime> thnx 4 ur kindnes and cya man
[22:06] <avihay> gionnico: you can do the remove ubuntu procedure from here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[22:07] <opengeekv2> @mime bye
[22:07] <avihay> how can you setup kubuntu to work with multiple languages like in windows?
[22:08] <cuznt> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) <~~ terminal error i can not instaqll or un install anything either by terminal or synaptic
[22:08] <yofel> Reign1: as said that's controlled by the theme, and you need to have compositing enabled for a transparent panel
[22:09] <yofel> cuznt: can you please pastebin the full error?
[22:09] <avihay> gionnico: I mean the process to remove gnome-desktop
[22:09] <gionnico> so http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[22:09] <gionnico> hehe
[22:09] <avihay> yhe, didn't find it
[22:10] <Reign1> yofel: i set compositing active, but still get message that the following effects could not be activated and list of all effects ive tried to enable
[22:10] <jbicha> ok, I reported my KDE 4.4.3 issue as bug 577200
[22:11] <dolomite> yofel: on my machine, compositing is not required for transparent panel
[22:11] <Reign1> bah, it didnt work with opengl, xrender makes it work
[22:11] <Reign1> got it
[22:11] <belak> Alright, I installed kubuntu 10.04 and I have been plagued with problems trying to get nvidia to work... essentially I have installed nvidia-173 and the kernel source but xorg fails to start, giving me a module nvidia not found
[22:11] <pingveno> http://www.catsforgold.com/
[22:11] <pingveno> oh
[22:11] <pingveno> oops
[22:11] <pingveno> wrong channel
[22:11] <FloodBotK3> pingveno: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:11] <yofel> oh? didn't know that, oxygen doesn't use a transparent panel without compositing here
[22:11]  * pingveno goes over to reddit
[22:12] <zus> hello
[22:12] <dolomite> belak: please follow method 2 in http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107406.0
[22:12] <dolomite> as close as you can.
[22:12] <cuznt> http://pastebin.org/208098
[22:12] <belak> dolomite: I don't have a browser, as I have no X
[22:12] <dolomite> everyone has at least 2 computers these days!
[22:13] <dolomite> :)
[22:13] <belak> dolomite: Nope. Just me and my laptop.
[22:13] <kubuntero> !purekde
[22:13] <belak> I'll use w3m, I suppose
[22:13] <dolomite> belak: how did you install the 173 proprietary driveR?
[22:13] <kubuntero> !search 173
[22:13] <belak> dolomite: yes, through jockey
[22:14] <mauri> i nned halp for my scanner cannon lide100
[22:14] <cuznt> yoful http://pastebin.org/208098
[22:14] <yofel> kubuntero: if you are searching for nvidia use the 'nvidia-173' package in lucid and nvidia-glx-173 in older releases
[22:14] <yofel> kubuntero: or just use jockey (hardware drivers app)
[22:15] <zus> so i decided to try out some icons from kde-look.org but the set i want doesn't have any explanation on installing them. how do i do it? i know in gnome it was as simple as dragging them in.
[22:15] <belak> dolomite: thanks
[22:15] <yofel> cuznt: looking
[22:15] <kubuntero> It's dolomite baby!
[22:16] <cuznt> ty.
[22:17] <yofel> kubuntero: ah right ^^
[22:17] <dolomite> anytime you want me kubuntero, come and get it
[22:17] <belak> J,
[22:18] <belak> *Hm
[22:18] <belak> Not working
[22:18] <kubuntero> Im 40% dolomite!
[22:19] <belak> dolomite: that topic is useful, but won't fix it
[22:19] <dolomite> belak: reinstalling properly won't fix it?
[22:19] <yofel> cuznt: hm... I'm not sure how this happened, but you need to have 'python-changesettings' installed
[22:19] <belak> I've gotta go eat - I'll be back in a bit
[22:19] <dolomite> kubuntero: are you andesite?
[22:19] <belak> dolomite: properly?
[22:20] <yofel> cuznt: do you have a python-changesettings .deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[22:20] <cuznt> i shall look
[22:20] <dolomite> belak: jockey can work but, for me, it's been hit-or-miss. reinstalling formally always helps my nvidia woes
[22:20] <kubuntero> dolomite: No that would be Bender Bending  Rodruigez
[22:20] <rmrfslash> Ahh sometimes I feel like packages come through kpackagekit w/ my name on em.
[22:20] <Mamarok> dolomite: kubuntero: could you stay on topic, please? Chat is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[22:21] <dolomite> it'd help if kubuntero would shut up
[22:21] <rmrfslash> Finally I can suspend my computer since the recent pm-utils update
[22:22] <cuznt> yofel in / i have no /var folder
[22:22] <cuznt> yes i do
[22:22] <cuznt> wrong window..
[22:24] <zus> so i decided to try out some icons from kde-look.org but the set i want doesn't have any explanation on installing them. how do i do it? i know in gnome it was as simple as dragging them in.
[22:24] <cuznt> yofel in /var/cache/apt/archives i have a partial folder a lock openoffice help zip 2 ubuntu zip
[22:24] <zus> also i cant find the folder to change the amarok splash...
[22:25] <cuznt> ubuntustudios zip files 1 for audio and the other controls.
[22:26] <yofel> cuznt: odd, what happens if you run 'sudo apt-get install -f' ?
[22:26] <cuznt> the error you saw was from that
[22:28] <cuznt> yofel: the error you saw was from that
[22:28]  * cuznt forgets his manners
[22:29] <yofel> cuznt: ok... can you try 'sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/ubuntustudio-audio.prerm{,.bak}' and try again?
[22:30] <cuznt> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:31] <cuznt> yofel: i am in the process of UN installing the studio
[22:32] <cuznt> yofel: i do not need it. so it does not have to stay if that makes a difference
[22:33] <yofel> well, the error occures while it tries to remove the package to install the newer package after that. It seems like pythong-changesettings isn't installed and it fails because of that
[22:33] <yofel> *python-
[22:34] <yofel> cuznt: what does 'apt-cache policy python-changesettings' tell you about the 'Installed' status of the package?
[22:36] <cuznt> yofel http://pastebin.org/208178
[22:37] <yofel> ok, now I'm confused, it shouldn't give you an error at all if that's the case...
[22:40] <compilerwriter> How does one get flash working on a 64bit install?
[22:41] <yofel> !flash64
[22:42] <zus> when i click on the .tar.gz another window opens with whats inside the file but what do i do after that for the icons set i just downloaded?
[22:44] <satch5150> hi all - I was here yesterday askign about 32 bit binaries on 64 bit kubuntu - apparently what I need to do for this to work is to download the 32-bit libs that the binary i'm trying to run needs - here is my problem, when I run ldd on the binary it says it is not a dynamically linked library, when I run 'file' on it, it says that it is dynamically linked ?  so, I need some suggestions :)
[22:46] <satch5150> and I've googled my brains out on this and can't find an answer :)
[22:46] <apparle> anyone knows a shell server which allows port forwarding?..........I know this if ot but, just if someone knows :)
[22:47] <alzear> Hello, sorry for a newbe question, but how do I know what nvidia driver I use?
[22:47] <kalipus> the calc i was searching for was speedcrunch :D
[22:47] <mastercactapus> satch5150: have you tried getlibs?
[22:48] <yofel> alzear: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log, you should find the driver name and version in there
[22:48] <apparle> alzear: try this in konsole "lspci -v | grep VGA"
[22:48] <satch5150> no, I haven't, I've never heard of it before :)
[22:49] <alzear> apparale: I get two rows, one with nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210]  and the second with nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT]
[22:49] <alzear> I two graphichs card, one for the screen and one for the tv
[22:50] <satch5150> mastercactapus: the repos for kubuntu lucid don't seem to have it - where might I get it ?
[22:50] <alzear> apparle: Sorry, spelled your name wrong, see the above answers
[22:51] <apparle> alzear: ohh..... wait ...... "lspci -v" and find the same two lines in the output... below them will be the driver
[22:51] <apparle> !tab | alzear
[22:51] <alzear> apparle: aha, cool, thanks :-)
[22:51] <mastercactapus> satch5150:http://frozenfox.freehostia.com/cappy/getlibs-all.deb
[22:53] <alzear> apparle: I did the command, but I don't see any driver version below that line
[22:53] <apparle> alzear: there must be something like kernel module...
[22:53] <alzear> apparle: Yes it is, is says the following: Kernel driver in use: nouveau
[22:53] <alzear>         Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nouveau
[22:54] <apparle> alzear: so noveau is the driver you are using
[22:54] <alzear> apparle: But what does that say? I am readin on this page and there the driver looks completly different: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[22:54] <alzear> apparle: I am using kubuntu version 10.04
[22:55] <yofel> well, nouveau is the default driver, to use the nvidia driver you need to install it (from hardware drivers for example)
[22:56] <alzear> apparle: My goal is to make composite view and by that enable desktop effects. I am a sucker for eye-candy :-)
[22:56] <apparle> alzear: did you try using the hardware manager... or something like that I don't remember
[22:56] <avihay> How can you setup kubuntu to work with multiple languages like in windows?
[22:57] <alzear> hhmm, there is a program to run under system -> Hardware drivers, is that the one you mean?
[22:58] <yofel> alzear: that should be the one, it should recommend the current driver
[22:59] <alzear> ok, there is two options where the first is version 173 and the second says (version current) [Recommened]
[22:59] <alzear> shall I select the second one?
[22:59] <alzear> Ok, I will try. Lets see if it works :-)
[23:00] <kubuntero> What are the advantages of doing software raid?
[23:01] <apparle> kubuntero: google it
[23:01] <yofel> or ask in #kubuntu-offtopic, that's not really a support question
[23:02] <apparle> yofel: ohhh.... come on don't be that strict.......... he is not asking which movie is good :D
[23:02] <kubuntero> apparle: mobilty is what I get back
[23:02] <alzear> ok, driver installed, need to restart, will be back in a minute...
[23:03] <apparle> kubuntero: I recommend you read the wiki page of RAID, ther is a section of software raid
[23:03] <yofel> apparle: heh, well, this # isn't as busy as #ubuntu, but it's still not quite on topic :P
[23:04] <Walzmyn> If i open a new folder in Dolphin it comes up in detail view. How can I change that default to icon view?
[23:04] <kubuntero> ah
[23:04] <kubuntero> !raid
[23:04] <satch5150> mastercactapus: worked like a charm, thank you :-)
[23:04] <mastercactapus> satch5150: np, glad it worked!
[23:04] <cuznt> yafel: can i delete the zip files in my apt/cache... folder? would that make it stop?
[23:04] <apparle> yofel: now if ubottu knows about raid, it is not offtopic
[23:05] <apparle> !tab | cuznt
[23:06] <yofel> cuznt: I doubt that (and don't delete them directly, use 'apt-get clean' if you want to get rid of them anyway)
[23:06] <kubuntero> apparle: interesting. thanks
[23:06] <cuznt> ok ty even after i spelled your nick incorrectly
[23:07] <alzear> Ok, lets see if I can enable it now...
[23:07] <yofel> apparle: what I meant was: if he needs help setting up a raid or needs help debuggin an issue sure, on-topic, but asking a random 'what are the benefits of raid?' isn't (well, you could argue about that ok)
[23:07]  * yofel shuts up
[23:07] <alzear> SWEET!! Thanks yofel and apparle!
[23:08]  * apparle was just fooling around since there is very low activity.......... Actually he totally agrees with yofel 
[23:08] <cuznt> i am getting the ubuntustudio error is there a # ubuntustudio r00m?
[23:08] <yofel> heh
[23:10] <yofel> cuznt: I'm out of ideas for now, too tired, you could try #ubuntu too or ask a question on launchpad https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ and see if someone there knows more
[23:11] <yofel> (if you have a launchpad account)
[23:11] <apparle> cuznt: and the best place..... ubuntuforums.org
[23:12] <apparle> cuznt: what was the original problem
[23:13] <yofel> apparle: http://pastebin.org/208098
[23:13] <kubuntero> apparle: would it be possible to make a softraid with the Alternate disk without installing kubuntu reboot with the live CD put dataa on th new RAID disk then return to installing with the alternate ?
[23:14] <yofel> apparle: apt-cache show python-changesettings as installed, so I can't make any sense out of this
[23:14] <apparle> kubuntero: I don't know anything about raid... but maybe ubottu knows
[23:15] <kubuntero> Mamarok_: do you think that would be possible?
[23:18] <apparle> yofel: cuznt no idea.... try in #ubuntu
[23:18] <apparle> cuznt: which version of ubuntu?
[23:19] <Guest91262> hi
[23:19] <Guest91262> can I change the themes or add new ones>
[23:19] <Guest91262> how?
[23:19] <Guest91262> :(
[23:19] <benkevan> You don't mention what themes Guest91262
[23:19] <cuznt> im running kde i added on the studio to check it out
[23:20] <Guest91262> well themes for kubuntu like air,oxygen etc
[23:20] <apparle> cuznt: but which version of ubuntu ?
[23:20] <cuznt> ?
[23:20] <apparle> Guest91262: from the place where you change themes , there is an option to get new themes
[23:20] <cuznt> Setting up ubuntustudio-audio (0.70) ...
[23:21] <Guest91262> which is that place
[23:21] <apparle> yofel: I don't know the command to find which version of ubuntu cuznt has..... a little help
[23:21] <Guest91262> it's all different from previous versions
[23:21] <Guest91262> can't find any theme manager
[23:21] <craigzheng> Anyone know how to stop KDE from hijacking my Super key and treating it as Meta?
[23:21] <yofel> apparle: 0.70 is from lucid, and apt-cache python-changesettings showed lucid too
[23:22] <yofel> cuznt: upgrade?
[23:22] <Guest91262> in 10.04 I mean
[23:22] <apparle> yofel: did he try manual unintall of the package?
[23:22] <cuznt> yes i did
[23:22] <yofel> Guest91262: systemsettings -> appearance
[23:22] <apparle> Guest91262: right click on destop and then somethign
[23:22] <yofel> apparle: not in 4.4
[23:22] <cuznt> Platform Version 4.4.2 (KDE 4.4.2)
[23:23] <yofel> Guest91262: there go to style -> worspace
[23:23] <yofel> *workspace
[23:23] <apparle> cuznt: what happens on manual purge of the package?
[23:23] <cuznt> in what way?
[23:23] <cuznt> apt-get clean?
[23:24] <apparle> cuznt: "sudo apt-get purge ubuntustudio-audio"... but check if it is causing any dependency issues
[23:25] <cuznt> anytime i want to install uninstall anything i get an error (as in the pastebin yofel gave) and can go no furthur.
[23:26] <apparle> cuznt: try that particular command
[23:26] <yofel> I know, the package management has got itself into a state where it can't continue without admin-intervention
[23:26] <Guest91262> at workspace there's no theme management
[23:26] <compilerwriter> bugger I have got 64 bit flash working but am having a bit of trouble with java.  Trying to follow the instructions athttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava but running into issues.  apt couldn't find the package.  Do I need to add the sun repos to my sources list or something?
[23:27] <yofel> Guest91262: you should have a list of themes and a 'get new themes' button
[23:27] <apparle> yofel: is there any option for dpkg, which will over write the old package?......
[23:27] <cuznt> apparle http://pastebin.org/208332
[23:27] <blue112> I have a problem with Kate using sftp : When I try to save a file, I have a access denied message to a ".part" file... I have all rights on the directory and the file. What can I do to fix that ?
[23:27] <Guest91262> nothing just "global options for the Plasma workspace: form factor & dashboard"
[23:27] <Guest91262> no themes
[23:28] <Guest91262> this kinda sucks
[23:28] <yofel> Guest91262: you *are* using KDE 4.4?
[23:28] <andre> hi
[23:28] <Guest91262> yes
[23:28] <Guest91262> 4.4
[23:28] <andre> is it possible to enfore the taskbar only showing symbols without text
[23:29] <apparle> cuznt: if I would have had that problem, then I would have opened that package, and performed a manual uninstall by doing what the script does manually
[23:29] <yofel> Guest91262: sec
[23:29] <andre> because i want to use it on the right side of the screen and it looks dumb atm
[23:29] <apparle> andre: I would also like that :P.. but don't know how
[23:31] <andre> atm there is a tiny symbol and two or three letters
[23:31] <yofel> Guest91262: this is how the menu should look like: http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/Sys1.png
[23:32] <Guest91262> thanks very much
[23:32] <Guest91262> solved
[23:37] <compilerwriter> anybody able to help me with 64bit java?
[23:37] <andre> oh, is it possible to import all my thunderbird settings into kmail?
[23:38] <yofel> compilerwriter: you're running lucid?
[23:38] <compilerwriter> yes yofel I am. 64 bit.
[23:38] <yofel> !partner
[23:39] <yofel> compilerwriter: sun java is to be found there now
[23:39] <yofel> *can be found there now
[23:39] <compilerwriter> Thanks yofel
[23:48] <compilerwriter> i just hate kpackagekit!
[23:49] <apparle> compilerwriter: why
[23:50] <compilerwriter> I can never find the packages I want to find in the damned thing.  No matter I just had apt get synaptic.
[23:50] <apparle> compilerwriter: to each his own..... I prefer apt-get :D
[23:51] <yofel> aptitude :P
[23:51] <compilerwriter> I have no problem with apt-get but I don't always know the name of the package I want.
[23:52] <apparle> compilerwriter: google, kpackagekit, and packages.ubuntu.com  help :D
[23:53] <compilerwriter> I am still trying to figure out which package I need to get java working on 64 bit lucid, but at least with synaptic I can see which packages are out there.
[23:53] <justin__> man apt-cache will teach you how to search
[23:54] <yofel> compilerwriter: you can just use openjdk if you don't have an explicit reason why you need sun
[23:54] <benkevan> explicit reason like.. Juniper SSL VPN :(
[23:54] <yofel> compilerwriter: but if you have partner added, refresh your cache with 'sudo apt-get update' and install sun-java6-jre or -plugin or whatever you need
[23:55] <compilerwriter> I don't know that I have one as yet, but I seem to remember needing sun for something in my old karmic .
[23:55] <Izinucs> do bluetooth single ear headsets work in kubuntu?  I've got motorola hs805 that "KBluetooth" keeps rejecting
[23:55] <compilerwriter> yofel the update.  that is what I am forgetting.  Need to work in a terminal more often.
[23:56] <yofel> compilerwriter: remember to remove openjdk after installing sun though, if both are installed openjdk is preferred
[23:57] <Raubtier__> sadly, there are a lot of things which do not work in openjdk. So you usually need sun's jre
[23:57] <Izinucs> yofel: you may have just solved an issue I've been having with java.. testing in a sec.. kudo's !
[23:58] <yofel> that's the easy way, you can also use galternatives to switch the few dozen of alternative settings to sun too, but I find that harder :P
[23:58] <yofel> (or update-alternatives in a terminal if you don't want to use galternatives (gtk))