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ibuclawTJ_D, someone else may look into it, but just so that the obvious is stated. Does sound preferences report any muted devices?00:41
ibuclawThere is a CLI monitor named 'alsamixer' too, that many give more information00:42
ibuclawyou can also try ending the process 'pulseaudio' to see if that gives any improvement00:43
th5thsuccess!01:03
th5thibuclaw, thanks a lot man :D01:03
ibuclawno probs =)01:03
ibuclawI was going to say ... (but you left)01:04
ibuclawth5th, btw, I wrote a guide a while back http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126254601:04
th5ththe installer was putting grub on the memory stick. i had to select sdb1 rather than sda manually01:04
th5thoh cool i will check it out01:04
ibuclawthat's a bit advanced though01:04
ibuclawespecially part 201:05
th5thi learn fast...? maybe lol01:05
ibuclawbut it is really cool to show off to your friends =)01:05
ibuclawam just in the middle of updating it for a Plymouth bootsplash atm01:06
ibuclawhopefully it won't be too different (fingers crossed)01:06
th5thi will keep an eye on it. in the mean time i need to get going. thanks for your help :)01:06
th5tho/01:07
TJ_DI've been using gedit a lot to edit code, in the past I've used ConTEXT on windows which has the ability to use the find function between all open documents, and prints a list of the line number/line that it occurs on...is there a way to do this with a plugin/addon for gedit, or a different linux compatible program? I tried running Context with Wine, which worked, but I just don't like the program as much as I used to...I s01:24
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TJ_DHi all - I'm trying to compile a program that says I need urpmi libgnomeui2_0-devel , and urpmi libvte4-devel02:44
TJ_DI know the command I probably need to use in terminal is sudo apt-get02:44
TJ_DI'm not sure the settings beyond that though02:45
TJ_Dsudo apt-get -something install urpmi libvte4-devel?02:45
pedro3005the package libgnomeui-dev exists, you can try installing that; didn't find the others, though02:46
TJ_Dwhat's the urpmi part refer to?02:46
pedro3005hm02:47
pedro3005what are you trying to install?02:47
TJ_Dit's a patch for Tinyfugue that adds gui interface02:48
TJ_Dnot much support on the programs02:48
pedro3005urpmi is a package management tool, sort of like apt-get it seems. you shouldn't really have two02:49
TJ_Dmaybe that's the command to retrieve the file using urpmi02:49
TJ_Dso think installing libgnomeui-dev and seeing if it compiles after?02:50
* pedro3005 facepalms02:50
pedro3005you're right02:50
pedro3005sorry about that02:50
pedro3005you'd also need libvte4-devel02:50
geirhaaptitude search vte   shows libvte-dev, try that one.02:51
TJ_Dso, sudo apt-get -(what here) install libvte4-devel02:51
TJ_Dor without the four02:51
geirhasudo aptitude install libgnomeui-dev libvte-dev,02:51
geirhaerr, without the , at the end02:52
TJ_Dok, sorry, I'm a rooky - http://paste.ubuntu.com/429251/02:55
TJ_DErrors I'm receiving when I try to make the program02:55
geirhaThere's no configure script?02:55
TJ_Dah, maybe02:56
TJ_DThere is, how do I execute that?02:56
geirhaAlso try "make distclean" first, to get the source tree cleaned up. Then "./configure"02:56
TJ_Dhm03:00
TJ_Dhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/429253/03:00
TJ_DThere might not be a configure script or I just don't know what I'm doing =P03:00
geirhaDoesn't seem like they've put much thought into the build system03:03
geirhaIt probably compiles on whatever system the devs are using, but getting it to compile on Ubuntu looks like a ton of work.03:04
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shahana new KERNEL in LUCID update04:02
shahan!!!04:02
shahanyesterday I made an update to my system04:02
shahanits LUCID DESKTOP04:02
shahannow... when it was starting.... I got there is two kernel installed in my system04:02
shahandoes any one have idea?04:02
frank1_anyone know how to fetch album art in rhythmbox on lucid?04:02
ChesamoApparently not.04:06
ddecatorshahan seems to kind of come and go a lot..04:07
kermiacfrank1_: doesn't rhytmbox automatically fetch the album art for you?04:09
PabloRubianesduanedesign: ping www.ubuntu.org.uy04:09
ZeRoDeAtH50435anyone awake in here04:10
frank1_) kermiac: i wish04:10
frank1_kermiac: i have the plugin set but the option to use it it grayed out04:11
ChesamoIs the plugin for the correct version?04:11
ZeRoDeAtH50435is there a GUI like device manager in Ubuntu that list NIC information?04:11
duanedesignhello PabloRubianes04:11
duanedesignPabloRubianes: oh wow!04:12
duanedesignPabloRubianes: looks good04:12
PabloRubianes:-)04:12
frank1_kermiac: i would just use amarok but it seems unable to access my media which is stored on a seperate drive04:13
malevnice site PabloRubianes ! congrats04:13
PabloRubianesthanks malex04:13
PabloRubianesmalev sorry04:13
malevjaj04:13
kermiacfrank1_: what is the output of "apt-cache policy rhythmbox-plugins" (without the quotes)04:14
malevdrupal?04:14
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: are you thinking of network-manager-gnome?04:14
frank1_hythmbox-plugins:04:14
frank1_  Installed: 0.12.8-0ubuntu404:14
frank1_  Candidate: 0.12.8-0ubuntu404:14
frank1_  Version table:04:14
frank1_ *** 0.12.8-0ubuntu4 004:14
frank1_        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main Packages04:14
frank1_        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status04:14
frank1_     0.12.8-0ubuntu3 004:14
frank1_        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages04:14
ZeRoDeAtH50435I gues04:14
PabloRubianesmalev: yes04:14
ZeRoDeAtH50435do not really know04:14
ZeRoDeAtH50435is it like device manager for Windows04:15
Chesamofrak1_: Use paste.ubuntu.com04:15
Chesamofrank1_*04:15
ChesamoNnnno04:16
ChesamoThere is no such thing, yet04:16
ChesamoYou want the hardware information about your NIC?04:17
ZeRoDeAtH50435kind of its something I have to do for class04:17
ChesamoWhat do you have to do?04:17
ZeRoDeAtH50435NIC Advanced Properties04:19
ZeRoDeAtH50435NICs typically have many advanced properties. These properties can be viewed using the following steps:04:19
ZeRoDeAtH504351. Open the Device Manager (you can do this by running the command �devmgmt.msc�04:19
ZeRoDeAtH504352. Expand the Network adapters item04:19
ZeRoDeAtH504353. Double-click on a network adapter to open the Properties page04:19
ZeRoDeAtH504354. Click the Advanced tab04:19
ZeRoDeAtH50435Most users never adjust these parameters, but it may beneficial to adjust them for some applications.  Also note that not all network cards have the same properties available to adjust.  Wireless NICs in particular have additional adjustable properties.04:19
ZeRoDeAtH50435For this discussion, choose one of the NIC properties and fully describe what it does, the available options, and when each option might be useful. You must choose a different piece of information than presented by your colleagues (if repeated, the latter poster will not earn full credit). Also note that properties that differ only in IPv4 vs IPv6 are considered the same for this discussion.04:19
Chesamo.....04:19
ChesamoUse paste.ubuntu.com04:19
ZeRoDeAtH50435sry04:19
kermiacfrank1_: please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy rhythmbox"04:19
ChesamoAlso, what you're trying to do is a Windows thing.04:19
frank1_ok04:20
ZeRoDeAtH50435yeah there windows lovers04:20
ChesamoBut the problem si04:20
Chesamois*04:20
Chesamoyou actually /need/ Windows to do this assignment.04:20
ChesamoBecause you need to know the properties available to Windows users.04:20
ZeRoDeAtH50435there is no way to do it in Ubuntu04:20
frank1_http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/429279/04:20
Chesamo<Chesamo> Because you need to know the properties available to Windows users.04:20
ChesamoUbuntu gives you certain options, but they're not going to be the same exact ones available to Windows users.04:21
ZeRoDeAtH50435right04:21
ChesamoI can send you a screenshot of my WIndows machine's Advanced Properties page04:22
frank1_amarok seems to find the album art automatically but i prefer thythmbox04:25
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: http://sublevel21.com/rand/ZeRoDeAtH50435/04:26
ChesamoThat's Windows 7, if it makes any difference04:26
kermiacfrank1_: hmm... that all seems ok. perhaps you could try removing & re-installing04:27
ZeRoDeAtH50435I have a desktop that runs XP can I get it remotely04:27
kermiacfrank1_: sudo apt-get remove --purge rhythmbox04:28
frank1_kermiac: whats purge going to do?04:28
ChesamoZeRoDeAtH50435: I just gave you what you needed04:28
kermiacfrank1_: then sudo apt-get install rhythmbox rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store04:28
Chesamofrank1_: Remove the extra configuration in /etc04:28
kermiacfrank1_: it removes asssociated config files04:28
ZeRoDeAtH50435I have to explain one of the options and it has to be different from my other classmates04:29
ChesamoGoogle.04:29
ChesamoWindows doesn't give you any of the information, you just have to *know* what they are. What's where Google comes in!04:30
ZeRoDeAtH50435right thanks for your help04:31
ChesamoYou're welcome.04:31
frank1_kermiac: coverart plugin is still set and i still cant configure it04:32
kermiacfrank1_: I'm out of ideas. maybe look at http://code.google.com/p/albumartsearch/ as a workaround. I haven't tried it though04:36
frank1_thanks04:37
Chesamofrank1_: Can you manually add album artwork?04:37
frank1_not through rhythmbox04:37
ChesamoOh?04:37
ChesamoCould your build of Rhythmbox have a bug that's preventing it?04:38
frank1_doubt it04:38
frank1_removed and reinstalled already04:38
frank1_multiple times04:38
ChesamoBecause I have Rhythmbox on my computer and it's running fine.04:38
Chesamo....that doesn't solve the problem I just mentioned.04:38
frank1_what version are you running04:40
ChesamoLet me look04:40
Chesamo0.12.804:41
frank1_same here04:42
ChesamoInteresting.04:42
ChesamoWhat version of Ubuntu, and what processor archetecture?04:42
ddecatorthe cover art plugin doesn't give me the option to configure, if that's part of this discussion04:43
frank1_so how do you get your art04:43
frank1_10.0404:43
ddecatorgood question..how did i do that? haha, once sec04:45
ddecatori think i used songbird for it04:45
frank1_uhh. im constantly getting new music and was hoping for a way to just get the art through rhythmbox04:46
kermiacfrank1_: maybe try adding covers manually? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/e8rRrhCU04:46
kermiacfrank1_: or the plugin I mentioned above...04:46
ddecatorif you buy from the music store, it should get the artwork. i can't remember if musicbrainz fetches artwork or not..04:46
kermiacfrank1_: I think coverart *might* be disabled - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/50773104:47
nomnexcan I find the information about my disk cache (2, 8, 16 ) using a Ubuntu tool? thanks07:20
ddecatorwhat kind of information?07:21
nomnexHDD cache, I don't find the info using palmiset07:21
ddecatorcache as in swap area?07:22
nomnexNo, the disk cache07:22
nomnexfactory disk cache07:22
ddecatorah, i've never looked into that, so i'm not of much help07:22
nomnexokay07:22
nomnexsomeone else? I don't have easy access to the HD07:23
ZeRoDeAtH50435how you you get remote desktop to work on Ubuntu or to control a Windows desktop from your Ubuntu system07:44
nomnexhow to know the disk cache on Ubuntu $ sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda (to answer my question)07:51
zeroseven0183!ping09:30
scourisWhen I run banshee and minimize it to the notification area, it's icon hangs over the lower edge of the panel, even if I increase the height of the panel. This pic shows the issue: http://yfrog.com/0ubansheequestionp    - any idea how I can rectify this?09:35
byteIs there a way of removing the "Floppy Disk" icon from Computer? I don't have a floppy drive. I tried editing fstab11:31
shahanbyte: go to BIOS11:31
shahanthen disable FLOPPY DRIVE11:31
byteoh. ok thanks11:32
shahanbyte: welcome11:32
byteit worked :) thank you11:40
byteI don't know anyone who still has a floppy drive. I guess it's just a legacy thing11:40
shahanbyte: ...11:49
shahanbyte: nice try11:49
byte?11:49
shahanbyte: :)11:51
ravibnI need help installing latest Nvidia 9500 GT grpx driver on LTS 10. GNOME desktop13:38
tdnI have just installed 10.04. Flash does not work in Firefox or Opera. How do I fix thiS? I have tried installing flashpluin-nonfree, but this does not work. If I go to youtube, I just see a black box instead of the video.15:37
ChesamoOh, uh15:37
ChesamoI totally knwo this.15:37
Chesamoknow*15:37
ChesamoGive me a second.15:37
Chesamotdn: go here http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ Select "Linux", then select "Flash Player 10 for Linux (.tar.gz)" and hit "Agree and install now"15:39
Chesamotdn: Open the file you just downloaded (it's a tarball archive) and extract libflashplayer.so15:39
Chesamo(Gibe me a second, looking up the library location; I don't use Firefox)15:40
Chesamogive*15:40
Chesamotdn: Tell me when you've done this.15:42
geirhaOdd, I just installed flashplugin-installer, properly restarted firefox, and flash worked.15:43
ChesamoYou know, I should have thought of doing that right off the bat.15:44
ChesamoMy apologies.15:44
bytewhen you encounter a page with flash, firefox should pop up automatically and show you which plugin to install. if you select the official one, I know that doesn't have any issues15:56
ChesamoThe automatic installation's never worked, in my experience.15:56
ChesamoUnless it's been fixed since I last used Firefox.15:56
bytejust made a fresh installation last night :) and it works fine15:57
byteI just made the full switch. been booting up on windows with a ubuntu partition. my new drive is fully ubuntu :D15:58
byteits a solid state drive. im really impressed with the speed so far15:58
ChesamoI'm just waiting for a GTK+ version of Opera.16:00
byteI like google chrome but I'm just not interested until they support the plugin API needed to implement something similar to NoScript16:02
ChesamoTHey uh16:03
ChesamoThere's NoScript built in.16:03
byteit's not as extensive16:03
ChesamoWhat else do you need?16:03
Chesamo"Javascript: ON!" "Javascript: OFF!" "Whitelist the following sites:"16:04
byteI want to kill all javascript, all iframes, java, flash etc. by default, until I enable them individually16:04
Chesamohttp://techie-buzz.com/browsers/disable-javascript-images-cookies-in-google-chrome.html  << For reference.16:04
byteoh :) thanks. I think this is newer than when I last checked16:05
ChesamoIt's actually evolved since then. This article is pretty old.16:05
ChesamoThe instructions are still correct, though.16:05
bytethe devs of noscript were saying that google didn't provide the features they needed from the plugin api16:05
ChesamoThey don't.16:06
byteoh16:06
ChesamoIt's not a plugin, it's something built in.16:06
tdnChesamo, hmm... Shouldnt I be able to do it with apt-get?16:19
bytedo what?16:20
ChesamoInstall Flash? Yes, byte just provided an alternate solution.16:20
ChesamoEr, geirha, I mean.16:20
pecar-17:06
pecarhi  the net icon disappear from my desktop and i can not connect my wifi. What can i do?17:07
byteright click on your bar at the top17:07
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byteadd a "Notification Area"17:07
byteAdd to Panel, sorry17:08
bytedid it work?17:09
pecarno it is not to add17:13
bytewhat happened when you added the notification area?17:16
pecarbyte it isn't a icon of network connections17:16
bytethere is no "wireless controls" or network connections in the add to panel17:16
byteI know that17:16
bytebecause the network connections icon is -inside- the notification area object17:16
byteit's really confusing, took me so long to find it when the same thing happened to me first17:16
bytethe notification area can hold lots of icons, one of them is the network connections17:17
DiegoTc#ubuntu-beginners-team17:22
DiegoTc#ubuntu-beginners-dev17:22
pecarThe numeric keyboard from my keyboard only works till the login. After it it don't work.17:31
marine1what is the proper way to extract an xml file17:54
zeroseven0183Hi marine1. What do you mean "extract"?17:55
zeroseven0183Extract from where?17:55
marine1well I d/l it the desktop ian dit extracted another file which is a workbook_file17:56
marine1I see an file but when i click on it the options for ascll filter options come up17:57
marine1zeroseven0183: is the correct character set (unicode utf-8)??17:58
zeroseven0183You're saying you want to open an XML file?17:59
zeroseven0183from the archive file you downloaded on your desktop?18:00
zeroseven0183Am I correct?18:00
marine1yes but when i originally extracted it, another file appeared without being extraced also18:00
zeroseven0183By default, I think Ubuntu uses UTF-818:01
marine1O.K. I can file the main file that was orginally intended to be seen18:01
marine1zeroseven0183: I can't locate the file that was originally intended to be used18:02
zeroseven0183Select the "Extract here" option when right-clicking the archive file18:02
marine1zeroseven0183: on the 2nd file that was extracted??18:03
zeroseven0183Nope. The original file. The first one.18:04
zeroseven0183Can you point me if you don't mind to the file you're referring to.18:04
zeroseven0183Do you have the link?18:04
marine1zeroseven0183: that is what I did and another file appeared without being extratced18:04
zeroseven0183Sorry I'm having a hard time understanding it but would like to help you.18:04
zeroseven0183I'm sleepy now but let's see if we can get it done18:05
ChesamoWhat is the original file? A tar.gz archive?18:05
marine1it says zip archive18:05
ChesamoWhat is the filename extension? (The part after the period)18:06
zeroseven0183When you extract "Extract here" the files from archives, all of the files will be put to a folder with the same name18:06
marine1zeroseven0183: this is the name of it::application/x-apple-msg-attachment18:06
ChesamoThat's the filetype as presented by the metadata, not the filename18:07
marine1Chesamo: it was an attachment that a co-worker sent to me.18:07
ChesamoIn a ZIP file?18:07
marine1Chesamo: when I right click on the file it says zip archive18:08
ChesamoCan you not see filename extensions?18:08
marine1Chesamo: where would that be located??18:10
* Chesamo blinks18:10
ChesamoIt's.... the part of the filename after the period18:10
ChesamoLike, "archive.zip" is a ZIP file and "archive.rar" is a RAR file18:10
marine1Chesamo: properties says archive zip18:11
ChesamoI'm not asking for... nevermind....18:11
marine1Chesamo: excuse Zip archive18:11
ChesamoYou're running Ubuntu, correct?18:11
marine1Chesamo: yes18:11
ChesamoWhat exactly is wrong with the current extraction?18:12
marine1Chesamo: when i double click in the folder itself it shows mutliple lines and most of the say xml18:12
marine1Chesamo: under type most of the lines say xml document18:13
zeroseven0183You can open XML files using Firefox18:13
ChesamoOr gedit18:13
ChesamoI don't understand what the problem is here. Can you explain it to me again?18:13
zeroseven0183Right-click on the file and select Open with Mozilla Firefox18:13
marine1Chesamo: O.K. when i extract to the desktop it creates another file which isn't extracted neither18:13
ChesamoA file that you didn't tell it to extract, is extracted?18:14
ChesamoIs there anything wrong with the file (that you need, and is properly extracted)?18:17
marine1Chesamo: i'm working on it now18:17
ChesamoSo there's nothing wrong with the file you need?18:18
ChesamoInteresting....18:18
ChesamoIt sounds like a bug, but I don't know enough about file-roller to be sur18:18
Chesamosure*18:18
marine1i needed open office spreadsheet to see it18:21
zeroseven0183Yes18:21
marine1zeroseven0183: ok i see it thanks18:23
marine1zeroseven0183: thanks bro18:24
zeroseven0183Sure. No problem. Happy Ubuntu-ing. Have a great day, enjoy18:24
marine1zeroseven0183: the file was an xml and open office spreadsheet opened it with no problem.18:24
bootstrapI haven't used ubuntu in years. I am coming over from mint. Can someone let me know what I am in store for regarding the switch. Years ago I remember having great trouble with wireless and nvidia.19:01
ChesamoWireless has improved greatly. nVidia has improved, but it's mostly nVidia's fault for not opening the binaries.19:03
Chesamo@bootstrap: *19:03
bootstrapChesamo: thanks19:04
starcraftmanbootstrap: ummm, why switch from mint to ubuntu? Just curious, its about the same. I think wirless is better, for nvidia drivers just install with the hardware-drivers application.19:05
ChesamoIsn't Mint based on Ubuntu, anyway?19:05
bootstrapyes it is19:05
bootstrapWhy switch? umm. I just want to try it out.19:06
starcraftmanbootstrap: hehe, fair enough. Then pick your flavor and install. We'll be here for post install help too.19:06
bootstrapalright, great, thanks19:06
geirhaYou could always shrink a partition to make ~10G free space and install ubuntu there, along side mint. Then try it out for a little while and see if you want to make the switch or not.19:07
bootstrapgeirha, that is exactly what I am doing, I have three partitions already though, actually will that be a problem?19:08
geirhaDepends on whether one of them are an extended partition19:09
starcraftmanbootstrap: logical no? Or all primary? If so, just make last partition extended and make under there.19:09
bootstrapall primary19:09
bootstrapthanks, starcraftman19:09
geirhaThen it shouldn't be a problem, Ubuntu should be smart enough to make the fourth one extended, and create logical partitions inside that.19:09
starcraftmangeirha: I don't recommend assuming a computer does something right, murphy would disagree.19:10
nigelbabuhaha19:10
geirhaFair enough, though it only needs to create one partition19:11
geirhaOne of the other three is likely already a swap partition, so it can use that.19:11
nigelbabustarcraftman: also, I think murphy law applies to windows and not linux19:13
geirhanigelbabu: murphy's law would disagree :P19:13
nigelbabugeirha: ;)19:14
pipepupoGood afternoon.19:39
pipepupoI had install Ubuntu 10.04 and works fine, but when I select the Windows Vista in ->GRUB is showed error: "Not found hal.dll"19:39
pipepupoHow I can fix it?19:39
starcraftmanpipepupo: uh, i haen't run into that one tbh, lemme have a quick look.19:43
pipepupothank you starcraftman19:47
starcraftmanpipepupo: still got your windows cd, appears to be a file necessary for booting.19:48
starcraftmanI'm not sure how it's missing, grub doesn't overwrite files in the system directory, where this file is supposed to be.19:49
pipepupois a laptop: Vista preinstalled19:49
pipepupoI think: the error is the wrong partition on the Vista MBR19:50
pipepupoin XP you can fix it using boot.ini19:50
starcraftmanpipepupo: did you move the partition?19:51
pipepupobut in Vista you don't19:51
pipepuponot19:51
pipepupoI don't move the partition19:51
pipepupobut when I installed Ubuntu19:51
starcraftmanpipepupo: sorry, gotta run someone calling me at uni. You might wanna waith a bit longer, someone will answer. Posting on the forums might work but this is more a windows problem.19:52
pipepupomaybe Ubuntu does it19:52
starcraftmanbest of luck19:52
pipepupothanks you19:52
pipepupo.19:53
pipepupoI have other problem in other computer:19:53
pipepupoI had installed Ubuntu 64 bit using Wubi, but this Ubuntu don?t recognize Internet19:53
pipepupoWhy?19:54
phillwpipepupo: you can get vista MBR back and check that vista boots. once that is done, you can put grub2 back on. I don't know anything about wubi, sorry.19:57
phillwpipepupo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708 has details of how to do that19:58
pipepupoThank you phillw19:58
phillwpipepupo: a good support thread for Wubi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143952620:00
pipepupoThank you phillw20:04
ishijoemy hard disk is at 56C. is it normal?20:06
ChesamoNo.20:08
Chesamoishijoe: 45-55 is the "safe range"... according to Google.20:09
ishijoehow can i reduce it . i saw something about hdparm20:10
Chesamoishijoe: I'm not sure, sorry. If it's a desktop, you can try a hard drive fan.20:12
ishijoesorry i didnot mention it. it is a laptop dell vostro a86020:13
Chesamoishijoe: Ahh. Then I don't know, sorry.20:13
ddecatorhm, i wonder if that was due to nvidia..20:46
ChesamoHm?20:46
ddecatorthe question earlier about the laptop getting hot. i know nvidia had trouble with the 195 driver causing fans to not work, but idk if they patched that or not for ubuntu20:47
ChesamoIt was the hard drive, though. Not the video card.20:48
ddecatortrue. hard to tell sometimes with laptops though. everything being close together, one thing gets hot it seems like everything else gets hot as a result, haha. could have just been something running in the b/g, my comp gets really hot from f@h20:49
ChesamoThat's true.20:50
pmp6nlis there any way to check if I am running 64 or 32 bit? I am 99% sure I installed 64, but ubuntu is not showing my 4 gigs of ram21:19
ChesamoOpen up Terminal, type "uname -a" (without the quotes)21:19
ChesamoIt'll say something like: Linux happy-stl 2.6.32-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 28 13:27:30 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux21:20
ChesamoSee where mine says i686? Yours will say x86_64.21:20
ChesamoThat is, if you installed 64-bit.21:21
ishijoein hdparm man ,it says if PMA is btw 128 and 254 spindown is disabled. mine is 254. should i reduce it to enable spindown or leave it as it is?21:23
Jon_Monrealpmp6nl: If you didn't install 64-bit, you can enable a PAE kernel to be able to use the whole 4 gigs21:24
ishijoe*APM21:24
LzrdKingishijoe: depends, do you want the drive to spin down?21:24
dustoff2010I have a program in windows7 that prevents me from logging into windows, so I am using ubuntu cd to log in.I would like to uninstall this program called ayrecovery but i don't see how to from ubuntu.  If it's not possible to uninstall it would it work to rename it just to log into windows then deal with the program?21:24
LzrdKingif not, no, if so, yes21:24
Chesamodustoff2010: You can try mounting the NTFS drive, then browsing to the directory and deleting/renaming it.21:25
dustoff2010okay thanks, i will try it21:26
ishijoewell my question should will spindown help my hdd to cool down21:26
Chesamodustoff2010: Let me know if you need the commands21:26
dustoff2010oh yes, i need the command21:26
ishijoe*my question should be will spin....21:26
Chesamodustoff2010: what kind of drive do you have? SATA or IDE?21:28
dustoff2010sata21:28
Chesamodustoff2010: open up Terminal, type "sudo mkdir /mount/windows && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mount/windows -t ntfs" (without the quotes of course)21:31
dustoff2010ok thanks. I willlet you know if it works21:32
ChesamoOkay.21:32
ChesamoIf it's successful, your hard drive will now be accessible through /mount/windows.21:32
Chesamodtstoff2010: if that doesn't work, try it again, only replacing "sda1" with "sdb1" instead. If that doesn't work, then I know there's a way to list filesystems by partition, I just don't remember what it is right now. I really have to leave, and I regret that I have to leave you hanging like this. Hopefully someone else can help you. Good luck!21:35
Chesamodustoff2010*21:35
dustoff2010will try, first one did not work, trying the secdond now21:36
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pmp6nlChesamo thanks, it shows x86_64 GNU/Linux... any idea as to why ubuntu is not reading all 4 gigs of ram?21:47
dustoff2010i have a sata hd and I am using ubuntu  live cd to log into windows 7. I need to remove or uninstall a program that is preventing me from logging into windows 7. I have tried a couple commands to mkdir,but they are not working. chesamo was helping but he had to leave, can anyone help21:49
pmp6nlok thanks dustoff201021:50
pmp6nlIf anyone knows how to figure out why I am not showing all 4 gigs of ram I would appreciate it.  Thanks in advance21:51
phillwdustoff2010: have you got the win7 partition mounted?21:56
dustoff2010no, can u help?21:57
dustoff2010I am loooking at windows files,but i need to be able to rename or delte theiss program21:59
phillwdustoff2010:  what version of ubuntu are you running?21:59
dustoff2010i am typing on a laptop, not very good21:59
dustoff2010sorry  i don't remember, i just downloaded it last night. how can i check?22:00
pmp6nldustoff2010 if you are looking at the windows files in ubuntu its mounted22:00
pmp6nlsystem --> about ubuntu22:00
dustoff2010ok, thnx, now how to manuver the files?22:01
pmp6nlgive me a recap on what you are trying to do?  Delete files on a windows partition?22:01
dustoff2010 sec. sending the original post22:01
dustoff2010I have a program in windows7 that prevents me from logging into windows, so I am using ubuntu cd to log in.I would like to uninstall this program called ayrecovery but i don't see how to from ubuntu.  If it's not possible to uninstall it would it work to rename it just to log into windows then deal with the program?22:02
pmp6nlhave you just tried booting into win7 via safemode22:02
dustoff2010It will not let me do anything, everytime I try to go to safe mode, recovery, etc. i just the ayrecovery screen.22:03
pmp6nlso when you try to boot, it goes directly to ayrecovery screen?22:04
dustoff2010this was a trial version of a imageing software which i never used and failed to remove it.22:04
pmp6nli am not sure if deleteing the windows file will take care of, have you tried using the windows recovery option on the windows cd?22:05
dustoff2010on ubuntu cd?22:05
dustoff2010no22:05
pmp6nldo you have the windows cd?22:06
dustoff2010i  have the one i created when i bought the comp. does it do a new install?22:06
yandmaneyup22:07
phillwhi yandman22:07
yandmanoh, hi phill!22:07
pmp6nlit depends on the version.  if you boot from the cd there should be a recovery option... i dont think it will delete everything.. check the options on the screen.  otherwise if you want i can try to help you find the windows file22:07
yandmanguys, does anyone know what could be the cause of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9257363&posted=1#post9257363 ?22:08
yandmanbasically, I can't do anything that needs authentification the first 3 minutes after logging in22:08
yandmanLubuntu 10.0422:09
dustoff2010I really don't think this software will let me get past that ayrecovery window. that's just my guess. but i can try it first. I just had so much trouble getting into ubuntu, I just left my comp all night for fear i might not get in again22:09
yandmanBasically, If I open a terminal and type "sudo su" , I ahve to wait 3 minutes for it to ask for a passwd22:09
yandmanvery strange22:09
yandmanonce the 3 minutes are past, everything works as it should22:10
pmp6nldustoff2010 on boot there is an option to boot from cd.. this will be before ay will have a chance to boot22:10
dustoff2010ok, i iwll try and get back to you.22:10
pmp6nlits probably f12 right when your comptuer starts or it could be f222:10
pmp6nllook at the bottom of the screen when it shows your comptuer maker22:10
pmp6nlmake sure the windwos cd is in the trauy22:11
dustoff2010ok will do22:11
phillwyandman: I'm just seeing if one of the guys who were helping me earlier are available.22:11
yandmancool, thanks22:11
pmp6nlok, send me a message when you get back dustoff201022:11
javatexanhey guys22:23
javatexanand gals22:24
pedro3005'lo22:24
ddecatorhey pedro300522:24
javatexanI am having trouble, I am trying to install gnome-keyring-sharp, but apt-get says it cant find it; but I found it here http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/source/lucid/gnome/gnome-keyring-sharp22:24
javatexanI guess I am missing a line in my sources?22:26
ddecatorlibgnome-keyring1.0-cil22:26
ddecatorit contains the gnome-keyring-sharp library22:26
javatexanddecator:22:27
ddecatoraccording to synaptic22:27
javatexanddecator: cool22:27
dustoff2010pmp6n, I finally got in to system restore, it will take me bck to april 14,but it will kill them program that is causing the problem and some others. unless you got a better idea22:29
dustoff2010how do i send a message to someone?22:32
ddecatordustoff2010: /msg <nick> <message>22:33
dustoff2010thnx22:33
ddecatorwithout <>22:33
phillwyandman: i cannot grab them, guess they are busy :-\22:33
phillwI will ask around and keep the thread updated for you.22:34
yandmanok, thanks phill22:34
yandmanthere's no rush anyway22:34
yandmanI jsut have to be patient when starting it up22:34
yandmanshame, because I must say Im impressed by lubuntu22:35
yandmannever seen a PC boot so fast!22:35
dustoff2010hmm sez no such nick22:36
ddecatormight not be on atm22:36
ddecatoryou could leave them a memo22:38
dustoff2010his nick is still in the chat bar on the right22:38
ddecatorwho?22:38
dustoff2010pmpn6l22:38
ddecatorso /msg pmp6nl blahblahblah22:38
ddecatordid you miss the n?22:38
dustoff2010nope, tried it severl times22:39
ddecatorhuh...22:39
ddecatorpmp6nl: ping22:39
pmp6nlyes?22:42
dustoff2010hehe22:42
dustoff2010I finally got in to system restore, it will take me bck to april 14,but it will kill them program that is causing the problem and some others. unless you got a better idea22:42
pmp6nlyou could try deleting the file in ubuntu?22:43
pmp6nlwhat do you see under places?22:44
dustoff2010yeah, that was my original question, but I know if it would affect windows buy just deleting the program22:44
pmp6nli dont know what it will do either22:46
pmp6nli dont use windows ;)22:46
pmp6nlyou could backup all your files and see22:46
dustoff2010ok, i will just restore from the april22:46
pmp6nlok, good luck22:47
dustoff2010thnx for your help. i think i like ubuntu though. I probably will do a dual install and work on learning it. bit by bit. thanx22:48
pmp6nlno problem. thats what i did.  now i have made the full switch and im loving it22:48
dustoff2010I can't wait22:49
pmp6nl:) feel free to ask questions as u play around with ubuntu22:49
dustoff2010ok, c ya22:49
pmp6nlbye22:49
pmp6nlany idea as to why my 64bit 10.04 is only showing 3.9 gigs of ram instead of the 4 I have installed?22:57
phillwpmp6nl: it depends on how they calculate GB :-)23:01
phillwhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte#Consumer_confusion23:01
pmp6nlah, well i was just wondering cause in windows it showed 4, now with my switch to ubuntu it shows 3.923:04
pmp6nlgottca23:05
phillwpmp6nl: well, that's the most likely reason :-)23:05
pmp6nlphillw: ok thanks, just making sure for some reason ubuntu wasnt having a problem seeing all 4 gigs23:05

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