[00:06] <LinuxPhreak> I'm looking for the Wubi source for 9.10 or 10.04. I can only seem to find Wubi Hardy
[00:07] <ev> LinuxPhreak: bzr branch lp:wubi wubi.trunk
[06:40] <jetole> Does anyone know if there is any way to give a host a random hostname when doing a preseed install?
[06:44] <persia> You might be able to do it by setting up your DHCP server to pass an IP and nameserver that reverse-resolves to a random hostname (requires fussing with the DNS server).  You might also be able to do something with early_command
[06:54] <jetole> The hostname doesn't have to be completely random but I am thinking if I install in  environment where I always want these machines to be automatically setup i.e. let's say office workstations or in a school and I don't want to have to preconfigure every host.
[09:18] <ogra> cjwatson, do you have any idea about all these Xserver issues when people upgrade grub-pc ? (my suspicion is the screensaver kicked in but i'm not 100% sure it would actually make the upgrade fail)
[09:23] <ogra> cjwatson, i also think it would make a lot of sense if apport would collect /etc/default/grub automatically, there are so many people following broken docs to change their cmdline for nvidia/fglrx
[09:33] <cjwatson> I don't know, sorry.  and yes that would be a good idea
[09:33] <cjwatson> I'm at somehands so totally behind
[09:38] <ogra> yeah, i know
[09:39] <ogra> about 10-20% of the currently coming in grub bugs are mis-edited /etc/default/grub files, there is a blog entry from ubuntugeek they copy/paste to change plymouth on proprietary drivers that has a linewrap in the default cmdline options ...
[09:39] <ogra> sadly the terminal log isnt always clear
[09:42] <cjwatson> we could theoretically work around that, but it's still DDTT
[09:43] <cjwatson> feel free to mark such bugs as Invalid with a suitable explanation if you aren't doing so already
[09:44] <ogra> well, first of all i always try to get the default file
[09:44] <cjwatson> the one thing to be careful of is that grub configuration can include the boot password
[09:44] <ogra> ouch, i didnt know that
[09:44] <cjwatson> so apport would have to be careful of that
[09:44] <ogra> yeah
[09:45] <cjwatson> it's only if manually configured
[09:45] <ogra> still, its something that needs to be stripped :)
[12:50] <ev> cjwatson: so, I profoundly disagree with Joey in Debian bug 357118 (hide passwords in debug logs) and would like to keep a delta of your patch against debconf.  Are you okay with that?