| conda | What permissions should my video files have for mythtv? | 05:00 |
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| Demerzel | evening folks | 05:19 |
| Demerzel | quick question | 05:20 |
| Demerzel | is there a linux parameter that I can give to prevent it from loading any network filesystems in /etc/fstab? | 05:20 |
| Demerzel | or alternatively is there a way to configure the nic directly from the linux parameters so the network is ready for when i try to mount a network fs? | 05:20 |
| conda | what exactly are you trying to achieve from this? | 05:24 |
| conda | does it try to mount your shares before its connected to the network?? | 05:25 |
| conda | for the permissions on my video files is this alright? -rwxrwxr-x 1 mythtv mythtv | 05:46 |
| chiluk | that sure looks ok. | 05:48 |
| conda | I cant delete any files through mythvideo | 05:49 |
| chiluk | the files probably should be executable, but I don't see why that would matter. | 05:49 |
| chiluk | is 1 the size of your file? | 05:50 |
| conda | doesnt the x mean that they are executable? | 05:50 |
| chiluk | sorry I meant they shouldn't be executable. | 05:51 |
| conda | gotcha | 05:51 |
| chiluk | mine are all -rw-r--r-- 1 chiluk mythtv | 05:51 |
| chiluk | but I don't try deleting files through mythvideo. | 05:51 |
| chiluk | you could probably chmod 666 * on that directory | 05:51 |
| conda | k 1 sec | 05:52 |
| chiluk | and it will definitely be able to write to to anything. | 05:52 |
| Demerzel | back | 05:52 |
| Demerzel | sorry was trying a few things | 05:52 |
| Demerzel | it was hanging on a cifs mount i'd added to my /etc/fstab | 05:52 |
| Demerzel | network wasn't ready yet | 05:52 |
| chiluk | Demerzel .. | 05:52 |
| chiluk | you could add the noauto option to your mounts in fstab. | 05:53 |
| Demerzel | true | 05:53 |
| chiluk | and then edit your ifup scripts. | 05:53 |
| Demerzel | but i'd still have to manually mount it using rc.local if not ifup | 05:53 |
| Demerzel | i think i'll switch that fs over to autofs | 05:53 |
| chiluk | ooh ... snazy. | 05:54 |
| Demerzel | isn't it though? :) | 05:54 |
| chiluk | that's a great idea. | 05:54 |
| Demerzel | in any case the solution to my problem | 05:54 |
| Demerzel | which was to find a way to edit the fstab file | 05:54 |
| Demerzel | was interesting | 05:54 |
| conda | it still says 'failed to delete file' | 05:55 |
| Demerzel | point to note, i don't have an optical drive in that box | 05:55 |
| Demerzel | it's my mythbuntu backend server | 05:55 |
| Demerzel | i edited the grub commandline for the latest "recovery mode" kernel in grub to include "break=mount" | 05:55 |
| chiluk | conda you may have to scan for changes or otherwise restart the backend before it notices that it can change the files. | 05:55 |
| chiluk | just a thought.. | 05:55 |
| Demerzel | it breaks just before mounting root | 05:55 |
| chiluk | as I said... I don't delete stuff. | 05:55 |
| Demerzel | then i mounted root to /tmp/root in the initramfs | 05:55 |
| Demerzel | and some clever uses of grep -v later i had an edited fstab file | 05:56 |
| chiluk | what was preventing you from editing /etc/fstab? | 05:56 |
| Demerzel | i didn't see an editor in the initramfs | 05:57 |
| Demerzel | i should've checked for ed | 05:57 |
| Demerzel | but it's too late | 05:57 |
| Demerzel | not going back there again | 05:57 |
| conda | chiluk: cant restart backend right now its recording :) is there a way to scan for changes? | 05:58 |
| Demerzel | basically grep was one of the commands available in busybox | 05:58 |
| chiluk | oh I realized what was going on .. you were hanging on an nfs mount, and didn't want to wait the timeout .. | 05:58 |
| Demerzel | chiluk: was that for me? | 05:58 |
| chiluk | conda in myvideo hit m then select scan for changes. | 05:58 |
| chiluk | yeah demerzel that was for you. | 05:59 |
| chiluk | or am I incorrect. | 05:59 |
| Demerzel | chiluk: yeah... except it was a cifs (samba) mount but the issues were the same | 05:59 |
| Demerzel | not sure what the standard cifs timeout is | 05:59 |
| chiluk | ok. | 05:59 |
| chiluk | probably all ugle. | 05:59 |
| chiluk | s/e/y | 05:59 |
| Demerzel | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Initrd%20break%20points | 06:03 |
| Zinn | [help.ubuntu.com] BootOptions - Community Ubuntu Documentation | 06:03 |
| Demerzel | that there's a good reference | 06:03 |
| chiluk | night all ... conda did we fix your issue? | 06:07 |
| Demerzel | night chiluk | 06:08 |
| Demerzel | i guess i'll head to bed too | 06:08 |
| chiluk | I'll assume he's happy since he didn't come back. | 06:08 |
| Demerzel | tmw should be part 2/3 of the diskless frontend setup on lucid | 06:08 |
| chiluk | good luck with that. | 06:09 |
| Demerzel | yeah | 06:09 |
| chiluk | do you serve the same image to multiple machines? | 06:09 |
| Demerzel | just the one machine so far | 06:09 |
| chiluk | ok. | 06:09 |
| chiluk | I'm curious to see how things go once you add another host. | 06:09 |
| Demerzel | but tmw is 2/3 of the blog articles about it | 06:10 |
| chiluk | cool well I'm tired.. good luck.. maybe I'll catch you on again tomorrow. | 06:10 |
| Demerzel | aight | 06:10 |
| conda | I just restarted and im still getting 'failed to delete file' in mythvideo | 06:21 |
| chiluk | very quiet today. | 19:25 |
| st8ofmi9d | Can I netboot off my mythbuntu backend (9.10) without running DHCP on it? | 19:34 |
| HeMan | st8ofmi9d: yes | 19:35 |
| st8ofmi9d | I'm working to run a frontend diskless and I can get it to boot but when I have DHCP runnning on the backend it causes my other hostnames to not resolve themself likely due to a conflict with DHCP running on my DSL router/modem | 19:35 |
| st8ofmi9d | HeMan: What do I need to do? | 19:35 |
| HeMan | st8ofmi9d: just use need the package mythbuntu-diskless-server, instead of mythbuntu-diskless-server-standalone | 19:36 |
| tgm4883 | and you need to configure your dhcp server to send pxeboot requests to your mythbuntu system | 19:36 |
| chiluk | wow that sounds far too easy. | 19:36 |
| st8ofmi9d | it does sound esay | 19:37 |
| * tgm4883 hits easy button | 19:37 | |
| tgm4883 | chiluk, st8ofmi9d the problem though, is that most home routers don't have the option to send those requests | 19:38 |
| tgm4883 | so you either need to A) haxor your router, or B) set up another system to handle dhcp requests | 19:38 |
| st8ofmi9d | Any clue on where I would look on my Verizon router/modem to configure pxeboot requests to go to the mythbuntu system? | 19:38 |
| chiluk | I bet that's why most run dd-wrt | 19:38 |
| chiluk | or some derivative thereof | 19:39 |
| tgm4883 | chiluk, dd-wrt, openwrt, tomato (maybe) | 19:39 |
| tgm4883 | chiluk, I don't think you mean derivative | 19:39 |
| tgm4883 | as AFAIK none of those are based on dd-wrt | 19:39 |
| chiluk | oh ok.. I thought they were all forks of the same code-base | 19:40 |
| chiluk | I can't run em ... d-link dir-655 | 19:40 |
| tgm4883 | chiluk, well they all have the linux kernel | 19:42 |
| chiluk | I definitely knew that. | 19:42 |
| tgm4883 | IIRC, dd-wrt was based on sveasoft's firmware for a while | 19:42 |
| tgm4883 | but those two are usually bad names in open source circles | 19:43 |
| st8ofmi9d | Would the pxeboot to mythbackend be in the port forwarding section of the router config? | 19:43 |
| tgm4883 | st8ofmi9d, no | 19:46 |
| tgm4883 | sec | 19:46 |
| tgm4883 | hah, I still have it | 19:46 |
| tgm4883 | http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4662&highlight=pxe | 19:46 |
| Zinn | [www.dd-wrt.com] | 19:46 |
| tgm4883 | that is what I used to set mine up, but I haven't used PXE boot in 2+ years | 19:47 |
| st8ofmi9d | The Verison DSL router/modem is not DD-WRT compatible. | 19:48 |
| chiluk | Yeah I would have expected that. | 19:50 |
| sabhain | tgm4883: that's a great link. I've used that in the past for diskless .. and am about to again. | 19:52 |
| * sabhain stunned that Verizon provide hardware isn't self-configurable. Who knew? | 19:53 | |
| st8ofmi9d | sabhain: I know, shocking isn't it. | 19:53 |
| st8ofmi9d | I'm guessing that this PoS does not support PXEboot. | 19:54 |
| mrand | PacketOverSONET has nothing to do with PXE ;-)l | 19:55 |
| st8ofmi9d | I could take my Asus router (being used as a WAP only) and install tomato on it, btuI'm looking for a more simplified solution using what I already have, | 19:55 |
| st8ofmi9d | Pos = Piece of Sh1t | 19:55 |
| st8ofmi9d | :-) | 19:55 |
| mrand | I'm aware ;-) | 19:55 |
| st8ofmi9d | I reazied that after I saw the smily | 19:56 |
| st8ofmi9d | smiley | 19:56 |
| sabhain | st8ofmi9d: ddwrt routers aren't that pricey .. you might consider controlling your own network by adding a router between the modem and your LAN | 19:56 |
| tgm4883 | sabhain you are the one getting the info together for the MCC plugin? | 19:56 |
| sabhain | tgm4883: not exactly .. i'm just getting ready to redeploy diskless FE's on a full upgrade / reinstall using 10.04. Happy to be a tester, but I was planning on doing the manual approach. | 19:57 |
| mrand | tgm4883: Demerzel, HeMan | 19:57 |
| * sabhain is pretty sure none of that stuff is written in F90 or F77 | 19:57 | |
| tgm4883 | mrand, ah thanks | 19:58 |
| mrand | sabhain: nope, but the some of the same priniciples apply | 19:58 |
| HeMan | when I tried my newly created image it worked like crap | 19:58 |
| HeMan | but the problem wasn't my new image but the overlay mount that I had from my 32 bit image... | 19:59 |
| sabhain | tgm4883: I do have a little-used FE that I'll reserve for doing MCC testing if it will help. I can afford to monkey with that one to help debug if that type of resource is needed. | 19:59 |
| HeMan | when I found that it worked fine | 19:59 |
| sabhain | mrand: for my money and type of projects, F90 still the best number cruncher code I've ever used. Intrinsic matrix math was a huge leap forward. | 20:00 |
| mrand | sabhain: I'm not surprised. I've not used it personally, but heard good things. I know that f77 is what the super-mini computer companies most easily optimized back in the 80's and 90's, so it makes sense F90 would follow on and expand. | 20:02 |
| st8ofmi9d | ok, so I can't seem to figure out if my Verizon DSL router/modem supports PXE boot. I looked all over the settings and did some googeling. Can I have the mythbackend only handle DHCP for one or two machines and then have teh router/modem handle the rest? | 20:03 |
| tgm4883 | st8ofmi9d, AFAIK, no | 20:04 |
| sabhain | mrand: not great for pushing big graphics, though plotting to HPGL was pretty good. And text & string operations were finicky .. but the pure math of it, which is what I use(d) it for was money. F90 stripped the fixed formatting requirement off. Still suported it, but you could freeform as well. | 20:04 |
| st8ofmi9d | so then I guess I should have the backend handle all DHCP? | 20:04 |
| tgm4883 | yea probably | 20:05 |
| tgm4883 | or get another router | 20:05 |
| mrand | st8ofmi9d: in general, yes. I'm guessing there is several ways to have multiple DHCP servers on a segment, but it wasn't really intended originally. | 20:05 |
| sabhain | st8ofmi9d: you might be able to pull something like that off if you had 2 different subnets .. but I don't know how your clients would know how to get to the right one. Are you in a wired setup? | 20:05 |
| mrand | st8ofmi9d: why not just force an IP for one or more things. For better or worse, I set the IP on my backend to be fixed. | 20:06 |
| tgm4883 | thats my thoughts exactly, how to have the clients contact the right dhcp server | 20:06 |
| st8ofmi9d | sabhain: I alrady have two subnets. One is for Linux MCE and the other is everything external to LMCE. I'm running myhtbackend on Mythbuntu until I can get LMCE fully up and running. | 20:06 |
| tgm4883 | mrand, how does that solve the issue of pxeboot? | 20:06 |
| mrand | pxe uses dhcp, doesn't it? | 20:07 |
| tgm4883 | yes | 20:07 |
| tgm4883 | oh wait, are you saying configure the pxeclients to have a static ip and pxe server settings | 20:08 |
| sabhain | I use the router to set all clients to static IP via DHCP. Then I use the router to pass the pxe server settings as well | 20:09 |
| mrand | tgm4883: actually, I was thinking to disable DHCP on the Verizon router and enable it on the server. | 20:09 |
| tgm4883 | ah | 20:09 |
| tgm4883 | i'm just wondering if you could manually tell the client where the server was | 20:09 |
| sabhain | but the backend definitely has a fixed IP. How else would I be able to SSH from my nexusone to kick the backend service from my couch? Gotta know the IP. | 20:10 |
| tgm4883 | and bypass the pxe forwarding crap | 20:10 |
| tgm4883 | sabhain, hostname? | 20:10 |
| * sabhain prefers the ip i guess | 20:10 | |
| tgm4883 | the issue is with routers that don't forward the pxe info | 20:11 |
| sabhain | tgm4883: plus, the diskless hostnames are MAC addresses (or they were). | 20:11 |
| st8ofmi9d | sabhain: I can confirm that the backend dhcp is using MAC addresses as hostnames | 20:12 |
| tgm4883 | st8ofmi9d, but can that be fixed? | 20:14 |
| st8ofmi9d | tgm4883: I'm not sure. I'm just learning as I go. | 20:15 |
| st8ofmi9d | tgm4883: actually, if the backend DHCP would use hostnames instead of MAC addresses I would simply turn off DHCP on my router/modem | 20:16 |
| tgm4883 | st8ofmi9d, looks like it would need to be set on the dhcp server | 20:16 |
| tgm4883 | according to this http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/HOWTO:_Convert_Ubuntu_to_Diskless | 20:16 |
| Zinn | [developer.novell.com] HOWTO: Convert Ubuntu to Diskless - Developer Community | 20:16 |
| tgm4883 | actually, I think that is for the server | 20:21 |
| tgm4883 | nope, looks like it was right the first time | 20:22 |
| tgm4883 | http://hydra.geht.net/tino/howto/vmware/pxe/ | 20:22 |
| Zinn | [hydra.geht.net] PXE boot of a guest of VMware server | 20:22 |
| * tgm4883 goes back to work | 20:22 | |
| st8ofmi9d | should I just manually map all hostnames in /etc/hosts? i've got over a dozen devices so it will be a PITA but it should be a one time thing. | 20:26 |
| tgm4883 | st8ofmi9d, well if you are using your backend as the dhcp server, why not just make the above changes? | 20:30 |
| st8ofmi9d | tgm4883: which changes do you mean? | 20:32 |
| st8ofmi9d | tgm4883: Are you talking about http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/HOWTO:_Convert_Ubuntu_to_Diskless#dhcpd_and_atftp | 20:35 |
| Zinn | [developer.novell.com] HOWTO: Convert Ubuntu to Diskless - Developer Community | 20:35 |
| st8ofmi9d | and I shoudl list each host in teh dhcpd.conf? | 20:35 |
| tgm4883 | st8ofmi9d, something like that, I haven't set it up in awhile, but that looks like itmight help | 20:43 |
| lapion | Hi I am running mythtv version 24158 (0.23-fixes) on lucid lynx API: 0.23.20100314-1 and it can't sca for channels on my anal;og card, nor my dvb-t cards | 22:52 |
| lapion | *card\ | 22:52 |
| lapion | ok nvm.. it's a littlebit complicated.. | 23:00 |
| lapion | they should give some info when you have not set up everything to be able to scan channels | 23:00 |
| liminal | hello | 23:03 |
| liminal | ive installed mythtv sucessfully in ubuntu lucid | 23:03 |
| liminal | but when im watching tv every now again it randomly crashes | 23:03 |
| liminal | i can't figure out what any possible cause might be | 23:04 |
| liminal | are there some lovely logs? | 23:04 |
| tgm4883 | !logs | 23:04 |
| Zinn | MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin. | 23:04 |
| tgm4883 | liminal, you want the backend logs, if you use mythbuntu-log-grabber, you will need to manually paste the logs that are in /tmp/mythbuntu-logs (I think thats the filename) | 23:05 |
| tgm4883 | and use | 23:05 |
| tgm4883 | !pastebin | 23:05 |
| Zinn | when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel. Then please post the link in the channel. | 23:05 |
| tgm4883 | lapion, I agree, they should | 23:05 |
| lapion | liminal, what vgz-chipset does the system have ? | 23:06 |
| lapion | *vga | 23:06 |
| liminal | vgz? | 23:08 |
| liminal | video graphic card| | 23:08 |
| liminal | ? | 23:08 |
| liminal | oh vga | 23:09 |
| tgm4883 | liminal, yea | 23:09 |
| liminal | its ati | 23:09 |
| tgm4883 | what kind? | 23:09 |
| liminal | hd 2600xt | 23:09 |
| liminal | i think | 23:09 |
| liminal | it just crashed again the last line in the logs are timed out wating for free video buffers | 23:09 |
| liminal | but yes.. i suspect its video card/driver related | 23:10 |
| lapion | lucid lynx has some problems with ati | 23:11 |
| liminal | no its not lucid | 23:11 |
| liminal | i had exactly the same problems with karmic | 23:11 |
| mrand | might need to add -v playback,important,general to get more any more info. Also, it might be helpful to run it from within gdb after installing the mythtv-dbg and mythplugins-dbg packages to capture a backtrack. | 23:11 |
| liminal | thats why i upgraded | 23:11 |
| liminal | its actually better with lucid than with karmic | 23:12 |
| mrand | although if it is ati driver related, maybe the -dbg and gdb stuff won't help. | 23:13 |
| lapion | liminal karmic and lucid both use kms.. | 23:20 |
| lapion | go figure | 23:20 |
| lapion | Why can't I do a full scan of the whole bandwidth for dvb-t | 23:21 |
| mrand | Sorry, for any and all scan questions, I defer to #mythtv-users, or their wiki or mailing list. | 23:25 |
| lapion | why do I have to select a country when I want to do a full-scan.. in me-tv I don't | 23:30 |
| mrand | lapion: myth has frequency tables that it uses I think. I don't know anything more than that (like why me-tv doesn't ask, or if they do it completely differently). | 23:31 |
| tgm4883 | myth uses dvb frequency tables | 23:32 |
| tgm4883 | i"m not sure if me-tv does | 23:32 |
| liminal | what is kms? | 23:42 |
| bollyman | To use the livecd, what exactly is a "backend"? | 23:44 |
| mrand | bollyman: backend is the device which is connected to houses the video input/capture device (commonly called a tuner). | 23:46 |
| chiluk | mythtv is divided into a frontend that displays the video, and a backend that is responsible for recording and storing the video. | 23:46 |
| chiluk | both can be on the same machine. | 23:46 |
| chiluk | I wish I could continue, but I need to git. | 23:47 |
| bollyman | can the backend be run from the livecd? | 23:58 |
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