=== zul_ is now known as zul [00:39] hi room [00:39] i've just installed ubuntu 10.4 server on my old P2 machine [00:43] cool deal [00:44] it didn't work with carmic [00:44] i still have to configure wireless network and find out how to mount my usb flash drive, but this i will do tomorrow [00:44] it is late here [00:44] gn8 room === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [01:43] soren, I'm highlighting you in both channels. Are you around? [01:54] Anybody good with working with wireless mastermode === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [02:38] hi all [02:38] did someone connect a blackberry as modem in ubunto 9.10? [02:44] any help with somebody usingebox ? [02:44] any help with somebody using ebox ? [02:47] !anybody [02:47] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [02:54] should i get this new version or not [02:54] are you happy with you cd? [03:34] On a hardy system, does upstart log events anywhere? [03:40] twb: is there upstart on hardy? [03:40] There is. [03:41] It was pretty useless, since all the init scripts were still in sysvinit [03:41] oh, ok [03:41] god ebox suck a fat one : [03:41] :) [03:41] so it wasn't used by default [03:42] It was used by default [03:43] !samba [03:43] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [03:43] It basically replaced /sbin/init, but none of the init scripts. [03:43] hi guys! got two questions: in my house i have 2 machines playing server [03:45] Two too many :-/ [03:45] and Intel core I5 with 3 Gb Ram and an Amd Sempron 1.9, they are plugged into an dlink dir-300 with dd-wrt [03:46] i want to make them both accessible through from internet, i got a domain pointed to my IP, [03:47] i want to know how i set up a subdomain for every server? like srv1.example.com [03:47] and srv2.example.com [03:47] !lynx [03:47] Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary) [03:49] is this possible? [03:49] dominicdinada: is there a reason you're trying to talk to ebox from lynx instead of just managing the system normally (i.e. from the command line)? [03:49] luis_lopez, !hola! [03:50] greetings SirDerigo [03:50] how r u luis_lopez ? [03:50] twb: learning via gui is easier Ebox is the worst effort at an front end for server and well Ubuntu doesnt support webmin [03:51] Sorry, I don't agree. [03:51] Someone told me to...to try SWAT but it will not allow me to run it [03:52] on the brighter note i am learning about samba editing the configs for my shares... [03:53] twb: maybe my ebox install is corrupted.... firewall and dhcp says its down when it is up... I try to add the modules for user and groups and i get "Nasty Bug occured" [03:54] I wouldn't know. AFAICT all attempts to provide a GUI to ignorant admins result in a ridiculous farce. [03:54] I'd rather admins learn how a system works than how to click on things. [03:55] funny you should say that i know how server 2k8 core works [03:56] but this isnt 2k8 so i am learning things [03:57] A nice little GUI will write these useless lines of text in smb.conf and I can change it and review it and do nifty little things... while learning how settings and variables should be written [04:01] twb: I agree with you generally, but I think as long as the web U/I is used as a learning tool for transition, it's reasonable. [04:02] ScottK: I'd agree, if there was a GUI/web UI wrapper that did much good. [04:02] i am game if you wanna teach me twb: [04:03] One thing I can say for sure about Ebox I can't say about Webmin is I haven't seen a postfix bug filed in Ubuntu due to parts of main.cf getting eaten. [04:04] I suppose the one OpenWRT ships is pretty solid, but that's because they mangle all their services to accept a UI-friendly intermediary layer [04:04] If I was commissioned to build one, I'd use an intermediary layer like puppet; the web UI would just generate manifests and leave the system itself alone. [04:06] ok i am running into a problem here :/ my share is set .. writable = yes ^M read only = no, Security = user and If i remotly try to edit a file say in eclipse it will not let me save to the directory [04:07] yet i can copy and create... do i need to add a modify = yes [04:10] Just pastebin the whole file to start with [04:12] http://pastebin.com/MJ2dsh3s [04:17] changed the max shares and default drive letter and the network adapter to eth1 [04:19] Have you restarted samba since changing the file? [04:19] yes [04:20] smbd restart [04:20] Wrong. [04:20] ok [04:20] It should be /etc/init.d/samba restart, or possibly something like "restart samba" in new upstart-based systems [04:21] In theory you could say "force-reload" instead of "restart", but I never trust that. [04:21] Cough cough WRONG [04:21] they changed samba to smbd [04:21] nmbd [04:21] in lucid [04:21] Ugh [04:22] You realize I'm talking about the init script, not the daemon itself? [04:22] yes there is no samba in init.d [04:22] Yeah, you're right. [04:22] http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/amd64/samba/filelist [04:22] 32 bit [04:23] http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/samba/filelist, then. It'll surely be the same for init file names. [04:23] maybe the cron daily ? or [04:24] dominicdinada: well, in sysvinit land you would normally just run the init script in init.d with the appropriate argument ("restart", in this case). [04:24] But I think the upstart clowns have a specific /sbin/restart(8) program to generate restart events. [04:24] i did smdb which restarted correctly i assume it didnt throw errors [04:24] Well, OK. [04:25] dominicdinada@diabolical-fs:/etc/init.d$ smbd restart [04:25] dominicdinada@diabolical-fs:/etc/init.d$ [04:25] Um, if . is in your PATH, it shouldn't be. [04:25] for init.d ? [04:26] What does "which smbd" say? [04:26] dominicdinada@diabolical-fs:/etc$ which smbd [04:26] /usr/sbin/smbd [04:27] Sigh. Never mind. [04:27] Let's just assume it's restarted and try to talk to it. [04:27] Try "smbclient //127.0.0.1/" [04:28] ok it logged me in and returned me to the shell [04:29] Make that "smbclient -L 127.0.0.1" [04:30] The goal is to make sure that samba's responding, listing the share and allowing you to access it at all. [04:30] http://pastebin.com/9huDdFST [04:31] oh sorry i paste binned the results [04:31] OK, good [04:31] So you should be able to say smbclient //127.0.0.1/www, and get an FTP-like prompt. [04:32] yes i have [04:32] smb:> [04:32] OK, now try a "PUT" to upload something [04:33] ok [04:33] now get [04:34] If the PUT worked, then the *samba* part of things is working. [04:34] ok [04:35] ...which means that the problem is probably your firewall, or centralized authentication (if any), or perhaps Samba's machine accounts. [04:35] I didnt add samba machine accounts I thought it inherited the accounts from ubuntu [04:36] The pam system has no concept of machine accounts, so it won't inherit those [04:36] ok [04:36] For user accounts, it depends on how it's set up, but I think it can either just look at pam, or take a static copy which you have to keep in sync and is a major pain in the arse. [04:37] it is taking from my pam i believe cause i can login as many users [04:37] So things you can do next is look at the samba logs; try to connect from windows without eclipse (i.e. start > run > \\diabolical-fs\www), try to use netcat or smbclient from another linux machine. [04:37] Ubuntu really needs a better office suite. [04:37] As for this server it is a File-server, Wireless Access Point, Dev Webserver [04:38] open office [04:38] * Guest31208 curses at NickServ === Guest31208 is now known as AdamDV [04:38] lol [04:38] heh [04:38] dominicdinada: you should probably first confirm that a remote host can see the port open at all. [04:38] OpenOffice is no match to Office 2007. [04:38] No offense. [04:39] yes it opens ip [04:39] (Well, in my opinion its no match) [04:39] up* [04:39] AdamDV: I don't care; I don't use an office suite. [04:39] Other people might? [04:40] Well, they're welcome to improve the situation [04:40] Adam Open Office is one of the few Office suites that came from the gitgo to read all microsoft formats [04:40] dominicdinada: Microsoft Office can, too [04:40] Yea but Open Office is Free... And MS OFFICE is like 200$ [04:40] Unless the document is in a newer format than the Microsoft Office install you're running... [04:41] i have both [04:41] I had a lot of problems with that in a heterogeneous organization, once. [04:41] awhile back nothing could read microsoft's .docx mdb etc formats [04:42] you could decompress .docx files as any other compressed file but whatever [04:43] No no, the underlying code for OOo is great. Hate the interface. [04:43] Anyway. I'll stop complaining now. [04:43] You can change the looks i believe ( dont have OO on this pc ) so i cant guide ya [04:44] Pay someone to fix it. It'd probably only cost a couple of hundred Microsoft Office per-seat licenses. [04:44] He is talking about OO [04:44] lol [04:44] dominicdinada: you can make it look a bit like gnome or a bit like KDE, but you can't really change it's look-and-feel. [04:44] twb: ya true [04:45] dominicdinada: yeah, but what I'm saying is that instead of licensing the latest Microsoft Office every three years, he could invest that money in getting exactly what he wants bolted onto OO [04:45] Thats actually not a bad idea. [04:46] Oh well yeah but then he will either miss out on updates or get the custom code over written when it updates [04:46] I am hand-waving away the gory details :-) [04:46] dominicdinada: Or get the patch done and then convince Ubuntu to include it and it's not your maintenance headache anymore. [04:47] dominicdinada: I'm not suggesting a fork, I'm suggesting hiring people to contribute directly to the mainline project. [04:47] Well AdamDv: what do you think [04:47] Forking is not worth doing unless upstream is being a total jackass. [04:47] Yea. [04:48] I'll have to talk to accounting. [04:48] Not a bad idea though. [05:28] hi [05:29] I have a weird issue about logrotate utility slowing down the server running ubuntu linux 8.04 hardy server. My logrotate runs at around [05:29] 12:30 pm everyday and during this time it slows down. The load is high on the box.There is no error in dmesg and as well as syslog service. [05:29] Please suggest/guide me how do i go about in fixing this issue. [05:30] I am having problem with $PATH, any ideas why is deferent from one ssh to another http://paste.pocoo.org/show/210933/ [05:33] wsuthomas: Because the Python path is not the same as the system path. [05:33] You can see this with (in Python) [05:33] import sys [05:33] print sys.path. [05:34] (without the last .) [05:34] so I need to change the sys.path on the node server [05:36] That's why they are different. Since I don't know what you're trying to do, I can't say. [05:36] Bedtime for me anyway. [05:36] ls and df work though [05:37] Night ScottK. Hope you live in the US... [05:37] thanks for the idea [05:37] Yes. East coast unfortunately. [05:38] Not terrible. I'm hitting the hay in Texas, so I'll be sleeping Thursday night. :) [05:38] Seeya [05:42] where is /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games [05:42] set [05:43] i think the problem is that I change the .rcbash file and it is not reading it [06:29] okay, what is the difference between Samba in Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04? because my Samba config I used for 9.10 doesn't want to work properly at all [06:32] Callum__: can you be more specific as to "doesn't want to work properly at all" ? [06:32] prints errors [06:32] drops clients? [06:32] nothing can access its shares at all [06:32] somethign? [06:33] they come up but no machines can access it, Windows OR Linux [06:33] well, the machine itself, the share list won't even work properly [06:33] NFS works fine but Samba doesn't >_> [06:33] any errors in the logs? [06:33] no idea [06:35] ......... [06:37] I don't know where the logs are exactly .. but probably somewhere under /var/log there is an 'smb' dir or an 'smbd.log' [06:37] or could be in one of the other files like 'daemon' or 'messages' [06:37] nevermind, found my issue, god damn it >_> [06:38] somehow the "guest account" configuration got uncommented, and yeah, the guest account mentioned didn't exist... recommented, now works [06:44] Callum__: :) [06:45] Callum__: sometimes just talking to somebody else helps you to think about a problem. :) [06:45] yeah =P [06:45] NFS > Samba, always =( [06:46] I dunno [06:47] NFSv4 maybe .. but even then... samba does seem to work well... [06:52] hi [06:52] checking in again for my query ? [06:53] kaushal: you might want to re-state it [06:56] kaushal: run logcheck more often, or get fewer logs [06:56] it apparently just takes that long to compress your old logs and rotate them [06:56] shouldn't that be niced? [06:56] do you have dedicated spindles for the log files themselves? [06:56] nice doesn't nice I/O [06:56] (or does it now?) [06:58] no [06:58] there was some progress on an ionice though [07:00] Linux supports io scheduling priorities and classes since 2.6.13 with the CFQ io scheduler. [07:00] according to 'man ionice' [07:00] that might help [07:00] although it probably means logrotate will take longer [07:00] and that may not be desirable [07:01] I did nice -n 19 too it didnot worked [07:01] kaushal: try and figure out if the process is cpu-bound or disk I/O bound [07:01] if disk I/O is the problem, get faster disks [07:02] I guess actually, could also be memory contrained. is your system swapping when logrotate runs? [07:02] nope [07:03] are things actually going slow? [07:04] or are you just seeing high load and freaking out? [07:10] or maybe log less. :) [07:15] cclausen: yes the system becomes very slow [07:15] The load is high too [07:24] kaushal: do you have sysstat running? if you type 'sar -b' do you get numbers? if so, pastebin.com them [07:38] clintb: sure [08:08] After I upgraded a server to karmic, ssh-server seems to allow login for the users even before fsck is done checking the disks with the user's home. How can I change the order, or delay ssh login? [08:13] anyone aware of a graphical stats generator for denyhosts? [08:14] tcpwrappers keeps logs of hosts it denies? [08:16] i meant like something like awstats or webalizer for denyhosts [08:16] also, just started reading up on ossec, any comments on it? or will denyhosts be fine for me? [08:17] running on a non-commercial server, just used to host my blog [08:17] I use denyhosts, and it has definitely reduced the number of attempts quite a bit [08:18] the website for the project does export some aggregate stats.. [08:18] yeah i wanted to see that for my site [08:18] oh well, i have it set to email me on a denied host.... [08:18] you could write a munin plugin for it [08:18] time to setup a new folder and message filter :) [08:19] but I bet the rate is so low.. graphs wouldn't be all that useful [08:19] i expect a ton of emails from denyhosts now...just went through auth.log....what a nightmare...didn't even bother with .0 .1 .2 .3 .4 ....etc :P hehe [08:19] lol [08:19] just had denyhosts running for all of 10 mins [08:19] 4 emails already [08:20] the bigger part is that you get all the hosts that others have already identified as evil [08:20] 18 hosts denied lol [08:20] its really a great project [08:20] yeah, i have it set to download/upload to the central server...that is such a great feature [08:21] don't know why its disabled by default on a ubuntu server install!!! geeeez [08:36] I think you're talking about RBLs [08:37] Oh, oops. denyhosts as in denyhosts.sf.net, not hosts.deny(5) [08:38] That stuff's only useful if your sshd can't be configured passphrase-only, or whitelisted-IPs-only, or at least netfilter -m recent and -m hashlimit. [08:55] quentusrex: I am now. [08:55] quentusrex: I try to be asleep at 02:43 at night. Usually I manage. [08:56] Then you're a bigger man than I [08:56] I usually knock off at 3AM [08:58] what is the command to check how much freespace ? [08:58] df [09:01] soren, I was going to ask if you could role an updated version of glusterfs [09:02] I'm trying to use glusterfs on lucid, and having rather difficult problem with ip auth. === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless [09:08] is there a quick and easy way for me to test if my server has open relay turned on? [09:09] nm [09:21] quentusrex: If you can hunt down the patch that fixes it, I can sponsor an upload, sure. [10:04] Hi, I want to add a virtual host to tomcat6. Can someone please verify the steps that I followed? [10:25] * abogani waves [10:25] Sorry for really stupid question but Google don't had help me and I unfortunately missed the server session at OpenWeek. [10:25] If Desktop and Server share the same components (deb archives) How can discover if a package will be supported for 5 years (instead of 3)? [10:25] Thanks in advance! [10:26] abogani: apt-get show shows it. [10:26] Err... [10:26] apt-cache, I mean. [10:26] e.g. apt-cache show apache2 says: [10:26] Supported: 5y [10:31] soren: Thanks a lot! [10:32] When I am shutting down my instance of tomcat6 server I am getting: SEVERE: Parse Fatal Error at line 1 column 1: Content is not allowed in prolog. [10:35] After I upgraded a server to karmic, ssh-server seems to allow login for the users even before fsck is done checking the disks. How can I change the order, or delay ssh login until fsck is done? It is pointless to allow users to login if their homes are not mounted yet [10:38] hey, Can any one help? [11:10] hey folks! [11:11] i have a question about connect a Ubuntu Server 10.4 to a OS X Server 10.6 Open Directory [11:12] i want to share the Open Directory from my OS X Server to the Ubuntu Server [11:12] i gues my Ubuntu server would act as a Replica= [11:12] ? [11:31] New bug: #576910 in php5 (main) "Regression: getPathInfo() doesn't return parent info" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576910 [11:46] New bug: #576913 in dovecot (main) "Backport dovecot 1.2.11 to Lucid?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576913 [13:11] New bug: #576949 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "[lucid] LOAD DATA INFILE fails in replication, simple patch available in 5.1.43" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576949 [13:34] anyone running ubu as an openvz host? === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless [14:38] mathiaz: Would it be possible to repost my last post to planet Ubuntu onto the server blog so it gets wider viewing? [14:43] jherrlin_: I don't think you can get non-Mac OS to act as an Open Directory replica and have everything work correctly. [14:44] sveinse: you can change it so that init launches sshd last === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [14:53] cclausen: How? [15:32] New bug: #576805 in samba (main) "Samba machine not browseable from windows ( 7, XP, ... )" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576805 [15:51] hello fellow server people. I am trying to use sed to search for a word, and if that word is there i want to append text to the end of the line [15:51] so far i have no success [15:51] sed -i '/^kernel/s|$|/ rdblacklist=nouveau vga=0x318/g' [15:57] npope: try and simpler command to make sure you are using sed correctly first [15:58] well i can do sed -i s/$/ replacementtext/g' filename just fine [15:58] but that appends to everyline [15:58] which is not useful to me [16:00] can you pastebin teh file in question? [16:00] sure [16:00] or if its a default ubuntu file, let us know which one? [16:01] its just a grub.conf file from an old distro [16:01] i want to append a kernel setting to the end of the kernel line [16:01] ah, ok [16:01] well, paste it then [16:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/429563/ [16:03] you are tryint to append to line 2 ? [16:03] yep [16:05] you have LANG= in there twice? [16:06] cclausen: that is unimportant to the question [16:06] well, whatever. I just wanted to make sure that sed wasn't duplicating thigns [16:06] sed -i -e "s/quiet$/quiet rdblacklist=nouveau vga=0x318/g" [16:06] appears to append to that line for me [16:07] although is it safe to assume that the line ends with quiet all the time? [16:07] cclausen: yea that works for me as well, however i can not be sure that quiet will always be there thats why i want to look for kernel [16:11] cclause: okey :/ i have to think something out then [16:13] npope: do you have to use sed ? [16:13] I think I can do this with perl [16:13] no i can use awk or something [16:14] ah perl might be tricky because it needs to run in the %post of a kickstart [16:14] i am pretty sure perl is not avail during that point [16:16] hmm... ok [16:17] cclausen: i know i like it complicated :) [16:18] cclausen: how would you do this in perl? [16:18] i could write an init script that would run the perl code, then force a reboot, that way perl is avail [16:20] sed -i.backup '/^kernel/ {s/.*/& rdblacklist=nouveau vga=0x318/}' [16:20] try that [16:20] (although you might not need the .backup file created) [16:22] uh, that doesnt seem to do it? [16:22] really? [16:22] it appears to work for me [16:22] yea [16:22] hmmm [16:22] do the lines actually start with kernel ? [16:22] in teh first column? [16:23] the pastebin adds spaces so I'm not sure if matching on ^kernel works or not [16:23] i think there might be a space [16:23] let me take a llook [16:23] well, put a space in if needed [16:25] ah that works man! the problem is a tab in the front of kernel [16:25] your awesome! [16:25] cclausen++ [16:30] i upgraded my distro from 8.10 to 9.04 and now for some reason i get this error in my kernel log http://pastebin.com/FRL35Zpm [16:30] it happens no matter what kernel i load [16:30] I have a problem with my email server, here are the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/429576/ [16:31] wack47: do you have a different /boot partition? [16:31] halvors: What does the mail log have to say about it? [16:31] wack47: what is your patition layout? [16:32] halvors: didn't we go over this before? you need an /etc/hosts and/or DNS entry for ss1 added [16:33] cclausen: i just did default: 143GB linux used by / [16:33] 5.42 GB linux swap for virtual memor [16:33] and then there is a 5.42 extended [16:34] skip teh swap partition and install swapd :) [16:35] wack47: does ls -l /boot list the files? are you suing default ubuntu kernels? [16:35] jrwren: what does swapd do? [16:36] ls -l /boot ---> http://pastebin.com/7SSAhRiv [16:36] and yes default kernels [16:37] cclausen: We have talked about this before but the problem is not svolved ;) [16:38] hi everyone, I'm trying to enable mod_rewrite without success. apache2ctl -l doesn't list the module although it's already symlinked in mods-enabled dir [16:38] enabled with a2enmod rewrite [16:38] what am I missing ? [16:38] wack47: hmm... that looks ok to me. try running update-initramfs -v and see if you see any odd errors [16:39] cclausen: seriously thanks man that works out great for my needs [16:39] cclausen++ [16:39] warlock_mza: did you restart apache2 after enabling the module? [16:39] yes sir [16:40] what is in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/rewrite.load ? [16:40] LoadModule rewrite_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_rewrite.so [16:40] warlock_mza: does that file exist? [16:40] yes [16:40] warlock_mza: is this on lucid? [16:41] yes [16:41] do i need to be in the /boot directory? [16:41] or does it not matter [16:41] wack47: no, shouldn't. update-initramfs should work from anywhere. I usually run things from /tmp, just in case they dump random files into the current directory [16:41] b/c when i run it, it says "You must specify at least one of -c, -u, or -d." [16:41] oh, right [16:42] I forgot [16:42] -u should work for you [16:42] seeing as you have an existing initrd [16:42] cclausen, does lucid have any specific thing about mod_rewrite ? [16:42] so update-initramfs -uv [16:42] ? [16:42] warlock_mza: no, I'm just looking at a lucid system myself [16:42] wack47: yes [16:43] warlock_mza: it loads for me. anything in /var/log/apache2/error.log ? [16:43] ok no errors when i ran that [16:43] ill see if it shows up in the logs now [16:43] wack47: ok, that is good. maybe check your grub config then? [16:44] wack47: did you change any partition layouts during the upgrade? [16:44] halvors: pastebin your /etc/hosts file again [16:44] ok will do, nope didnt touch the partitions [16:44] cclausen, nothing strange there [16:45] warlock_mza: are you just testing using apache2ctl -l to look for the module? Did you actually try to use it? === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro [16:45] warlock_mza: I think apache2ctl -l just lists compiled in modules [16:45] ok [16:45] cclausen:i am getting that error on the hour, so i should no in about 17 min or so [16:45]