[00:39] <nph0rm> hi room
[00:39] <nph0rm> i've just installed ubuntu 10.4 server on my old P2 machine
[00:43] <handheldCar> cool deal
[00:44] <nph0rm> it didn't work with carmic
[00:44] <nph0rm> i still have to configure wireless network and find out how to mount my usb flash drive, but this i will do tomorrow
[00:44] <nph0rm> it is late here
[00:44] <nph0rm> gn8 room
[01:43] <quentusrex> soren, I'm highlighting you in both channels. Are you around?
[01:54] <dominicdinada> Anybody good with working with wireless mastermode
[02:38] <D4mi4n> hi all
[02:38] <D4mi4n> did someone connect a blackberry as modem in ubunto 9.10?
[02:44] <dominicdinada> any help with somebody usingebox ?
[02:44] <dominicdinada> any help with somebody using ebox ?
[02:47] <qman__> !anybody
[02:54] <jnss> should i get this new version or not
[02:54] <jnss> are you happy with you cd?
[03:34] <twb> On a hardy system, does upstart log events anywhere?
[03:40] <cclausen> twb: is there upstart on hardy?
[03:40] <twb> There is.
[03:41] <twb> It was pretty useless, since all the init scripts were still in sysvinit
[03:41] <cclausen> oh, ok
[03:41] <dominicdinada> god ebox suck a fat one :
[03:41] <dominicdinada> :)
[03:41] <cclausen> so it wasn't used by default
[03:42] <twb> It was used by default
[03:43] <dominicdinada> !samba
[03:43] <twb> It basically replaced /sbin/init, but none of the init scripts.
[03:43] <SirDerigo> hi guys! got two questions: in my house i have 2 machines playing server
[03:45] <twb> Two too many :-/
[03:45] <SirDerigo> and Intel core I5 with 3 Gb Ram and an Amd Sempron 1.9, they are plugged into an dlink dir-300 with dd-wrt
[03:46] <SirDerigo> i want to make them both accessible through from internet, i got a domain pointed to my IP,
[03:47] <SirDerigo> i want to know how i set up a subdomain for every server? like srv1.example.com
[03:47] <SirDerigo> and srv2.example.com
[03:47] <dominicdinada> !lynx
[03:49] <SirDerigo> is this possible?
[03:49] <twb> dominicdinada: is there a reason you're trying to talk to ebox from lynx instead of just managing the system normally (i.e. from the command line)?
[03:49] <SirDerigo> luis_lopez, !hola!
[03:50] <luis_lopez> greetings SirDerigo
[03:50] <SirDerigo> how r u luis_lopez ?
[03:50] <dominicdinada> twb: learning via gui is easier Ebox is the worst effort at an front end for server and well Ubuntu doesnt support webmin
[03:51] <twb> Sorry, I don't agree.
[03:51] <dominicdinada> Someone told me to...to try SWAT but it will not allow me to run it
[03:52] <dominicdinada> on the brighter note i am learning about samba editing the configs for my shares...
[03:53] <dominicdinada> twb: maybe my ebox install is corrupted.... firewall and dhcp says its down when it is up... I try to add the modules for user and groups and i get "Nasty Bug occured"
[03:54] <twb> I wouldn't know.  AFAICT all attempts to provide a GUI to ignorant admins result in a ridiculous farce.
[03:54] <twb> I'd rather admins learn how a system works than how to click on things.
[03:55] <dominicdinada> funny you should say that i know how server 2k8 core works
[03:56] <dominicdinada> but this isnt 2k8 so i am learning things
[03:57] <dominicdinada> A nice little GUI will write these useless lines of text in smb.conf and I can change it and review it and do nifty little things... while learning how settings and variables should be written
[04:01] <ScottK> twb: I agree with you generally, but I think as long as the web U/I is used as a learning tool for transition, it's reasonable.
[04:02] <twb> ScottK: I'd agree, if there was a GUI/web UI wrapper that did much good.
[04:02] <dominicdinada> i am game if you wanna teach me twb:
[04:03] <ScottK> One thing I can say for sure about Ebox I can't say about Webmin is I haven't seen a postfix bug filed in Ubuntu due to parts of main.cf getting eaten.
[04:04] <twb> I suppose the one OpenWRT ships is pretty solid, but that's because they mangle all their services to accept a UI-friendly intermediary layer
[04:04] <twb> If I was commissioned to build one, I'd use an intermediary layer like puppet; the web UI would just generate manifests and leave the system itself alone.
[04:06] <dominicdinada> ok i am running into a problem here :/ my share is set .. writable = yes ^M read only = no, Security = user     and If i remotly try to edit a file say in eclipse it will not let me save to the directory
[04:07] <dominicdinada> yet i can copy and create... do i need to add a modify = yes
[04:10] <twb> Just pastebin the whole file to start with
[04:12] <dominicdinada> http://pastebin.com/MJ2dsh3s
[04:17] <dominicdinada> changed the max shares and default drive letter and the network adapter to eth1
[04:19] <twb> Have you restarted samba since changing the file?
[04:19] <dominicdinada> yes
[04:20] <dominicdinada> smbd restart
[04:20] <twb> Wrong.
[04:20] <dominicdinada> ok
[04:20] <twb> It should be /etc/init.d/samba restart, or possibly something like "restart samba" in new upstart-based systems
[04:21] <twb> In theory you could say "force-reload" instead of "restart", but I never trust that.
[04:21] <dominicdinada> Cough cough WRONG
[04:21] <dominicdinada> they changed samba to smbd
[04:21] <dominicdinada> nmbd
[04:21] <dominicdinada> in lucid
[04:21] <twb> Ugh
[04:22] <twb> You realize I'm talking about the init script, not the daemon itself?
[04:22] <dominicdinada> yes there is no samba in init.d
[04:22] <twb> Yeah, you're right.
[04:22] <twb> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/amd64/samba/filelist
[04:22] <dominicdinada> 32 bit
[04:23] <twb> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/samba/filelist, then.  It'll surely be the same for init file names.
[04:23] <dominicdinada> maybe the cron daily ? or
[04:24] <twb> dominicdinada: well, in sysvinit land you would normally just run the init script in init.d with the appropriate argument ("restart", in this case).
[04:24] <twb> But I think the upstart clowns have a specific /sbin/restart(8) program to generate restart events.
[04:24] <dominicdinada> i did smdb which restarted correctly i assume it didnt throw errors
[04:24] <twb> Well, OK.
[04:25] <dominicdinada> dominicdinada@diabolical-fs:/etc/init.d$ smbd restart
[04:25] <dominicdinada> dominicdinada@diabolical-fs:/etc/init.d$
[04:25] <twb> Um, if . is in your PATH, it shouldn't be.
[04:25] <dominicdinada> for init.d ?
[04:26] <twb> What does "which smbd" say?
[04:26] <dominicdinada> dominicdinada@diabolical-fs:/etc$ which smbd
[04:26] <dominicdinada> /usr/sbin/smbd
[04:27] <twb> Sigh.  Never mind.
[04:27] <twb> Let's just assume it's restarted and try to talk to it.
[04:27] <twb> Try "smbclient //127.0.0.1/"
[04:28] <dominicdinada> ok it logged me in and returned me to the shell
[04:29] <twb> Make that "smbclient -L 127.0.0.1"
[04:30] <twb> The goal is to make sure that samba's responding, listing the share and allowing you to access it at all.
[04:30] <dominicdinada> http://pastebin.com/9huDdFST
[04:31] <dominicdinada> oh sorry i paste binned the results
[04:31] <twb> OK, good
[04:31] <twb> So you should be able to say smbclient //127.0.0.1/www, and get an FTP-like prompt.
[04:32] <dominicdinada> yes i have
[04:32] <dominicdinada> smb:>
[04:32] <twb> OK, now try a "PUT" to upload something
[04:33] <dominicdinada> ok
[04:33] <dominicdinada> now get
[04:34] <twb> If the PUT worked, then the *samba* part of things is working.
[04:34] <dominicdinada> ok
[04:35] <twb> ...which means that the problem is probably your firewall, or centralized authentication (if any), or perhaps Samba's machine accounts.
[04:35] <dominicdinada> I didnt add samba machine accounts I thought it inherited the accounts from ubuntu
[04:36] <twb> The pam system has no concept of machine accounts, so it won't inherit those
[04:36] <dominicdinada> ok
[04:36] <twb> For user accounts, it depends on how it's set up, but I think it can either just look at pam, or take a static copy which you have to keep in sync and is a major pain in the arse.
[04:37] <dominicdinada> it is taking from my pam i believe cause i can login as many users
[04:37] <twb> So things you can do next is look at the samba logs; try to connect from windows without eclipse (i.e. start > run > \\diabolical-fs\www), try to use netcat or smbclient from another linux machine.
[04:37] <Guest31208> Ubuntu really needs a better office suite.
[04:37] <dominicdinada> As for this server it is a File-server, Wireless Access Point, Dev Webserver
[04:38] <dominicdinada> open office
[04:38]  * Guest31208 curses at NickServ
[04:38] <dominicdinada> lol
[04:38] <AdamDV> heh
[04:38] <twb> dominicdinada: you should probably first confirm that a remote host can see the port open at all.
[04:38] <AdamDV> OpenOffice is no match to Office 2007.
[04:38] <AdamDV> No offense.
[04:39] <dominicdinada> yes it opens ip
[04:39] <AdamDV> (Well, in my opinion its no match)
[04:39] <dominicdinada> up*
[04:39] <twb> AdamDV: I don't care; I don't use an office suite.
[04:39] <AdamDV> Other people might?
[04:40] <twb> Well, they're welcome to improve the situation
[04:40] <dominicdinada> Adam Open Office is one of the few Office suites that came from the gitgo to read all microsoft formats
[04:40] <twb> dominicdinada: Microsoft Office can, too
[04:40] <dominicdinada> Yea but Open Office is Free... And MS OFFICE is like 200$
[04:40] <twb> Unless the document is in a newer format than the Microsoft Office install you're running...
[04:41] <dominicdinada> i have both
[04:41] <twb> I had a lot of problems with that in a heterogeneous organization, once.
[04:41] <dominicdinada> awhile back nothing could read microsoft's .docx mdb etc formats
[04:42] <dominicdinada> you could decompress .docx files as any other compressed file but whatever
[04:43] <AdamDV> No no, the underlying code for OOo is great. Hate the interface.
[04:43] <AdamDV> Anyway. I'll stop complaining now.
[04:43] <dominicdinada> You can change the looks i believe ( dont have OO on this pc ) so i cant guide ya
[04:44] <twb> Pay someone to fix it.  It'd probably only cost a couple of hundred Microsoft Office per-seat licenses.
[04:44] <dominicdinada> He is talking about OO
[04:44] <dominicdinada> lol
[04:44] <twb> dominicdinada: you can make it look a bit like gnome or a bit like KDE, but you can't really change it's look-and-feel.
[04:44] <dominicdinada> twb: ya true
[04:45] <twb> dominicdinada: yeah, but what I'm saying is that instead of licensing the latest Microsoft Office every three years, he could invest that money in getting exactly what he wants bolted onto OO
[04:45] <AdamDV> Thats actually not a bad idea.
[04:46] <dominicdinada> Oh well yeah but then he will either miss out on updates or get the custom code over written when it updates
[04:46] <twb> I am hand-waving away the gory details :-)
[04:46] <ScottK> dominicdinada: Or get the patch done and then convince Ubuntu to include it and it's not your maintenance headache anymore.
[04:47] <twb> dominicdinada: I'm not suggesting a fork, I'm suggesting hiring people to contribute directly to the mainline project.
[04:47] <dominicdinada> Well AdamDv: what do you think
[04:47] <twb> Forking is not worth doing unless upstream is being a total jackass.
[04:47] <AdamDV> Yea.
[04:48] <AdamDV> I'll have to talk to accounting.
[04:48] <AdamDV> Not a bad idea though.
[05:28] <kaushal> hi
[05:29] <kaushal> I have a weird issue about logrotate utility slowing down the server running ubuntu linux 8.04 hardy server. My logrotate runs at around
[05:29] <kaushal> 12:30 pm everyday and during this time it slows down. The load is high on the box.There is no error in dmesg and as well as syslog service.
[05:29] <kaushal> Please suggest/guide me how do i go about in fixing this issue.
[05:30] <wsuthomas> I am having problem with $PATH, any ideas why is deferent  from one ssh to another http://paste.pocoo.org/show/210933/
[05:33] <ScottK> wsuthomas: Because the Python path is not the same as the system path.
[05:33] <ScottK> You can see this with (in Python)
[05:33] <ScottK> import sys
[05:33] <ScottK> print sys.path.
[05:34] <ScottK> (without the last .)
[05:34] <wsuthomas> so I need to change the sys.path on the node server
[05:36] <ScottK> That's why they are different.  Since I don't know what you're trying to do, I can't say.
[05:36] <ScottK> Bedtime for me anyway.
[05:36] <wsuthomas> ls and df work though
[05:37] <lukehasnoname> Night ScottK. Hope you live in the US...
[05:37] <wsuthomas> thanks for the idea
[05:37] <ScottK> Yes.  East coast unfortunately.
[05:38] <lukehasnoname> Not terrible. I'm hitting the hay in Texas, so I'll be sleeping Thursday night. :)
[05:38] <lukehasnoname> Seeya
[05:42] <wsuthomas> where is /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[05:42] <wsuthomas> set
[05:43] <wsuthomas> i think the problem is that I change the .rcbash file and it is not reading it
[06:29] <Callum__> okay, what is the difference between Samba in Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04? because my Samba config I used for 9.10 doesn't want to work properly at all
[06:32] <clintb> Callum__: can you be more specific as to "doesn't want to work properly at all" ?
[06:32] <clintb> prints errors
[06:32] <clintb> drops clients?
[06:32] <Callum__> nothing can access its shares at all
[06:32] <clintb> somethign?
[06:33] <Callum__> they come up but no machines can access it, Windows OR Linux
[06:33] <Callum__> well, the machine itself, the share list won't even work properly
[06:33] <Callum__> NFS works fine but Samba doesn't >_>
[06:33] <clintb> any errors in the logs?
[06:33] <Callum__> no idea
[06:35] <Callum__> .........
[06:37] <clintb> I don't know where the logs are exactly .. but probably somewhere under /var/log there is an 'smb' dir or an 'smbd.log'
[06:37] <clintb> or could be in one of the other files like 'daemon' or 'messages'
[06:37] <Callum__> nevermind, found my issue, god damn it >_>
[06:38] <Callum__> somehow the "guest account" configuration got uncommented, and yeah, the guest account mentioned didn't exist... recommented, now works
[06:44] <clintb> Callum__:   :)
[06:45] <clintb> Callum__: sometimes just talking to somebody else helps you to think about a problem. :)
[06:45] <Callum__> yeah =P
[06:45] <Callum__> NFS > Samba, always =(
[06:46] <clintb> I dunno
[06:47] <clintb> NFSv4 maybe .. but even then... samba does seem to work well...
[06:52] <kaushal> hi
[06:52] <kaushal> checking in again for my query ?
[06:53] <clintb> kaushal: you might want to re-state it
[06:56] <cclausen> kaushal: run logcheck more often, or get fewer logs
[06:56] <cclausen> it apparently just takes that long to compress your old logs and rotate them
[06:56] <clintb> shouldn't that be niced?
[06:56] <cclausen> do you have dedicated spindles for the log files themselves?
[06:56] <cclausen> nice doesn't nice I/O
[06:56] <cclausen> (or does it now?)
[06:58] <clintb> no
[06:58] <clintb> there was some progress on an ionice though
[07:00] <clintb> Linux supports io scheduling priorities and classes since 2.6.13 with the CFQ io scheduler.
[07:00] <clintb> according to 'man ionice'
[07:00] <cclausen> that might help
[07:00] <cclausen> although it probably means logrotate will take longer
[07:00] <cclausen> and that may not be desirable
[07:01] <kaushal> I did nice -n 19 too it didnot worked
[07:01] <cclausen> kaushal: try and figure out if the process is cpu-bound or disk I/O bound
[07:01] <cclausen> if disk I/O is the problem, get faster disks
[07:02] <cclausen> I guess actually, could also be memory contrained.  is your system swapping when logrotate runs?
[07:02] <kaushal> nope
[07:03] <cclausen> are things actually going slow?
[07:04] <cclausen> or are you just seeing high load and freaking out?
[07:10] <clintb> or maybe log less. :)
[07:15] <kaushal> cclausen: yes the system becomes very slow
[07:15] <kaushal> The load is high too
[07:24] <clintb> kaushal: do you have sysstat running? if you type 'sar -b' do you get numbers? if so, pastebin.com them
[07:38] <kaushal> clintb: sure
[08:08] <sveinse> After I upgraded a server to karmic, ssh-server seems to allow login for the users even before fsck is done checking the disks with the user's home. How can I change the order, or delay ssh login?
[08:13] <billybigrigger> anyone aware of a graphical stats generator for denyhosts?
[08:14] <twb> tcpwrappers keeps logs of hosts it denies?
[08:16] <billybigrigger> i meant like something like awstats or webalizer for denyhosts
[08:16] <billybigrigger> also, just started reading up on ossec, any comments on it? or will denyhosts be fine for me?
[08:17] <billybigrigger> running on a non-commercial server, just used to host my blog
[08:17] <clintb> I use denyhosts, and it has definitely reduced the number of attempts quite a bit
[08:18] <clintb> the website for the project does export some aggregate stats..
[08:18] <billybigrigger> yeah i wanted to see that for my site
[08:18] <billybigrigger> oh well, i have it set to email me on a denied host....
[08:18] <clintb> you could write a munin plugin for it
[08:18] <billybigrigger> time to setup a new folder and message filter :)
[08:19] <clintb> but I bet the rate is so low.. graphs wouldn't be all that useful
[08:19] <billybigrigger> i expect a ton of emails from denyhosts now...just went through auth.log....what a nightmare...didn't even bother with .0 .1 .2 .3 .4 ....etc :P hehe
[08:19] <billybigrigger> lol
[08:19] <billybigrigger> just had denyhosts running for all of 10 mins
[08:19] <billybigrigger> 4 emails already
[08:20] <clintb> the bigger part is that you get all the hosts that others have already identified as evil
[08:20] <billybigrigger> 18 hosts denied lol
[08:20] <clintb> its really a great project
[08:20] <billybigrigger> yeah, i have it set to download/upload to the central server...that is such a great feature
[08:21] <billybigrigger> don't know why its disabled by default on a ubuntu server install!!! geeeez
[08:36] <twb> I think you're talking about RBLs
[08:37] <twb> Oh, oops.  denyhosts as in denyhosts.sf.net, not hosts.deny(5)
[08:38] <twb> That stuff's only useful if your sshd can't be configured passphrase-only, or whitelisted-IPs-only, or at least netfilter -m recent and -m hashlimit.
[08:55] <soren> quentusrex: I am now.
[08:55] <soren> quentusrex: I try to be asleep at 02:43 at night. Usually I manage.
[08:56] <twb> Then you're a bigger man than I
[08:56] <twb> I usually knock off at 3AM
[08:58] <RickyWh1> what is the command to check how much freespace ?
[08:58] <twb> df
[09:01] <quentusrex> soren, I was going to ask if you could role an updated version of glusterfs
[09:02] <quentusrex> I'm trying to use glusterfs on lucid, and having rather difficult problem with ip auth.
[09:08] <RickyWh1> is there a quick and easy way for me to test if my server has open relay turned on?
[09:09] <RickyWh1> nm
[09:21] <soren> quentusrex: If you can hunt down the patch that fixes it, I can sponsor an upload, sure.
[10:04] <Mkools> Hi, I want to add a virtual host to tomcat6. Can someone please verify the steps that I followed?
[10:25]  * abogani waves
[10:25] <abogani> Sorry for really stupid question but Google don't had help me and I unfortunately missed the server session at OpenWeek.
[10:25] <abogani> If Desktop and Server share the same components (deb archives) How can discover if a package will be supported for 5 years (instead of 3)?
[10:25] <abogani> Thanks in advance!
[10:26] <soren> abogani: apt-get show <package name> shows it.
[10:26] <soren> Err...
[10:26] <soren> apt-cache, I mean.
[10:26] <soren> e.g. apt-cache show apache2 says:
[10:26] <soren> Supported: 5y
[10:31] <abogani> soren: Thanks a lot!
[10:32] <Mkools> When I am shutting down my instance of tomcat6 server I am getting: SEVERE: Parse Fatal Error at line 1 column 1: Content is not allowed in prolog.
[10:35] <sveinse> After I upgraded a server to karmic, ssh-server seems to allow login for the users even before fsck is done checking the disks. How can I change the order, or delay ssh login until fsck is done? It is pointless to allow users to login if their homes are not mounted yet
[10:38] <Mkools> hey, Can any one help?
[11:10] <jherrlin> hey folks!
[11:11] <jherrlin> i have a question about connect a Ubuntu Server 10.4 to a OS X Server 10.6 Open Directory
[11:12] <jherrlin> i want to share the Open Directory from my OS X Server to the Ubuntu Server
[11:12] <jherrlin> i gues my Ubuntu server would act as a Replica=
[11:12] <jherrlin> ?
[11:31] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #576910 in php5 (main) "Regression: getPathInfo() doesn't return parent info" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576910
[11:46] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #576913 in dovecot (main) "Backport dovecot 1.2.11 to Lucid?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576913
[13:11] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #576949 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "[lucid] LOAD DATA INFILE fails in replication, simple patch available in 5.1.43" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576949
[13:34] <stanman246> anyone running ubu as an openvz host?
[14:38] <ScottK> mathiaz: Would it be possible to repost my last post to planet Ubuntu onto the server blog so it gets wider viewing?
[14:43] <cclausen> jherrlin_: I don't think you can get non-Mac OS to act as an Open Directory replica and have everything work correctly.
[14:44] <cclausen> sveinse: you can change it so that init launches sshd last
[14:53] <sveinse> cclausen: How?
[15:32] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #576805 in samba (main) "Samba machine not browseable from windows ( 7, XP, ... )" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576805
[15:51] <npope> hello fellow server people.  I am trying to use sed to search for a word, and if that word is there i want to append text to the end of the line
[15:51] <npope> so far i have no success
[15:51] <npope> sed -i '/^kernel/s|$|/ rdblacklist=nouveau vga=0x318/g'
[15:57] <cclausen> npope: try and simpler command to make sure you are using sed correctly first
[15:58] <npope> well i can do sed -i s/$/ replacementtext/g' filename just fine
[15:58] <npope> but that appends to everyline
[15:58] <npope> which is not useful to me
[16:00] <cclausen> can you pastebin teh file in question?
[16:00] <npope> sure
[16:00] <cclausen> or if its a default ubuntu file, let us know which one?
[16:01] <npope> its just a grub.conf file from an old distro
[16:01] <npope> i want to append a kernel setting to the end of the kernel line
[16:01] <cclausen> ah, ok
[16:01] <cclausen> well, paste it then
[16:02] <npope> http://paste.ubuntu.com/429563/
[16:03] <cclausen> you are tryint to append to line 2 ?
[16:03] <npope> yep
[16:05] <cclausen> you have LANG= in there twice?
[16:06] <npope> cclausen: that is unimportant to the question
[16:06] <cclausen> well, whatever.  I just wanted to make sure that sed wasn't duplicating thigns
[16:06] <cclausen> sed -i -e "s/quiet$/quiet rdblacklist=nouveau vga=0x318/g"
[16:06] <cclausen> appears to append to that line for me
[16:07] <cclausen> although is it safe to assume that the line ends with quiet all the time?
[16:07] <npope> cclausen: yea that works for me as well, however i can not be sure that quiet will always be there thats why i want to look for kernel
[16:11] <jherrlin_> cclause: okey :/ i have to think something out then
[16:13] <cclausen> npope: do you have to use sed ?
[16:13] <cclausen> I think I can do this with perl
[16:13] <npope> no i can use awk or something
[16:14] <npope> ah perl might be tricky because it needs to run in the %post of a kickstart
[16:14] <npope> i am pretty sure perl is not avail during that point
[16:16] <cclausen> hmm... ok
[16:17] <npope> cclausen: i know i like it complicated :)
[16:18] <npope> cclausen: how would you do this in perl?
[16:18] <npope> i could write an init script that would run the perl code, then force a reboot, that way perl is avail
[16:20] <cclausen> sed -i.backup '/^kernel/ {s/.*/& rdblacklist=nouveau vga=0x318/}'
[16:20] <cclausen> try that
[16:20] <cclausen> (although you might not need the .backup file created)
[16:22] <npope> uh, that doesnt seem to do it?
[16:22] <cclausen> really?
[16:22] <cclausen> it appears to work for me
[16:22] <npope> yea
[16:22] <npope> hmmm
[16:22] <cclausen> do the lines actually start with kernel ?
[16:22] <cclausen> in teh first column?
[16:23] <cclausen> the pastebin adds spaces so I'm not sure if matching on ^kernel works or not
[16:23] <npope> i think there might be a space
[16:23] <npope> let me take a llook
[16:23] <cclausen> well, put a space in if needed
[16:25] <npope> ah that works man!  the problem is a tab in the front of kernel
[16:25] <npope> your awesome!
[16:25] <npope> cclausen++
[16:30] <wack47> i upgraded my distro from 8.10 to 9.04 and now for some reason i get this error in my kernel log http://pastebin.com/FRL35Zpm
[16:30] <wack47> it happens no matter what kernel i load
[16:30] <halvors> I have a problem with my email server, here are the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/429576/
[16:31] <cclausen> wack47: do you have a different /boot partition?
[16:31] <ScottK> halvors: What does the mail log have to say about it?
[16:31] <cclausen> wack47: what is your patition layout?
[16:32] <cclausen> halvors: didn't we go over this before?  you need an /etc/hosts and/or DNS entry for ss1 added
[16:33] <wack47> cclausen: i just did default: 143GB linux  used by /
[16:33] <wack47> 5.42 GB linux swap for virtual memor
[16:33] <wack47> and then there is a 5.42 extended
[16:34] <jrwren> skip teh swap partition and install swapd :)
[16:35] <cclausen> wack47: does ls -l /boot list the files?  are you suing default ubuntu kernels?
[16:35] <cclausen> jrwren: what does swapd do?
[16:36] <wack47> ls -l /boot ---> http://pastebin.com/7SSAhRiv
[16:36] <wack47> and yes default kernels
[16:37] <halvors> cclausen: We have talked about this before but the problem is not svolved ;)
[16:38] <warlock_mza> hi everyone, I'm trying to enable mod_rewrite without success. apache2ctl -l doesn't list the module although it's already symlinked in mods-enabled dir
[16:38] <warlock_mza> enabled with a2enmod rewrite
[16:38] <warlock_mza> what am I missing ?
[16:38] <cclausen> wack47: hmm... that looks ok to me.  try running update-initramfs -v and see if you see any odd errors
[16:39] <npope> cclausen: seriously thanks man that works out great for my needs
[16:39] <npope> cclausen++
[16:39] <cclausen> warlock_mza: did you restart apache2 after enabling the module?
[16:39] <warlock_mza> yes sir
[16:40] <cclausen> what is in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/rewrite.load ?
[16:40] <warlock_mza> LoadModule rewrite_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_rewrite.so
[16:40] <cclausen> warlock_mza: does that file exist?
[16:40] <warlock_mza> yes
[16:40] <cclausen> warlock_mza: is this on lucid?
[16:41] <warlock_mza> yes
[16:41] <wack47> do i need to be in the /boot directory?
[16:41] <wack47> or does it not matter
[16:41] <cclausen> wack47: no, shouldn't.  update-initramfs should work from anywhere.  I usually run things from /tmp, just in case they dump random files into the current directory
[16:41] <wack47> b/c when i run it, it says "You must specify at least one of -c, -u, or -d."
[16:41] <cclausen> oh, right
[16:42] <cclausen> I forgot
[16:42] <cclausen> -u should work for you
[16:42] <cclausen> seeing as you have an existing initrd
[16:42] <warlock_mza> cclausen, does lucid have any specific thing about mod_rewrite ?
[16:42] <wack47> so update-initramfs -uv
[16:42] <wack47> ?
[16:42] <cclausen> warlock_mza: no, I'm just looking at a lucid system myself
[16:42] <cclausen> wack47: yes
[16:43] <cclausen> warlock_mza: it loads for me.  anything in /var/log/apache2/error.log ?
[16:43] <wack47> ok no errors when i ran that
[16:43] <wack47> ill see if it shows up in the logs now
[16:43] <cclausen> wack47: ok, that is good.  maybe check your grub config then?
[16:44] <cclausen> wack47: did you change any partition layouts during the upgrade?
[16:44] <cclausen> halvors: pastebin your /etc/hosts file again
[16:44] <wack47> ok will do, nope didnt touch the partitions
[16:44] <warlock_mza> cclausen, nothing strange there
[16:45] <cclausen> warlock_mza: are you just testing using apache2ctl -l to look for the module?  Did you actually try to use it?
[16:45] <cclausen> warlock_mza: I think apache2ctl -l  just lists compiled in modules
[16:45] <halvors> ok
[16:45] <wack47> cclausen:i am getting that error on the hour, so i should no in about 17 min or so
[16:45] <warlock_mza> cclausen, ok, thanks cclausen It might be a gallery2 config problem ...
[16:46] <halvors> cclausen: here is my /etc/hosts file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/429585/
[16:53] <dominicdinada> so
[16:54] <cclausen> halvors: try adding a fe80:0:0:0:0:0:10.0.0.2 ss1.skymiastudios.com ss1 entry to your /etc/hosts file
[16:56] <dominicdinada> fe80:0:10:2
[16:56] <dominicdinada> fe80::0:10:2
[16:58] <halvors> is fe80:0:0:0:0:0:10.0.0.2 ss1.skymiastudios.com ss1 right?
[16:58] <halvors> trying now ;=
[16:58] <halvors> ;)
[17:00] <dominicdinada> What exactly are you trying to do because that is an address thats not routeable ?
[17:00] <cclausen> dominicdinada: yes, just like the 10.0.0.2 entry currently in his host file
[17:00] <cclausen> its just hte IPv6 version of it, right ?
[17:00] <halvors> cclausen: Its doesn't work :(
[17:01] <cclausen> same error
[17:01] <cclausen> ?
[17:01] <halvors> yes
[17:01] <cclausen> halvors: did you restart postfix?
[17:01] <halvors> rebooted whole server
[17:01] <cclausen> or whatever program that is
[17:01] <dominicdinada> that is a link local address... in ipv6 the only routable address' are 200*
[17:01] <dominicdinada> yeah its a local address the ssl.skymiastudios.com threw me
[17:01] <cclausen> dominicdinada: just trying to get rid of "Name service error for name=ss1 type=AAAA: Host not found"
[17:02] <dominicdinada> o
[17:02] <wack47> cclausen: still did it! :/ it should require a reboot should it?
[17:02] <cclausen> I assume that "AAAA" is a IPv6 record, right?
[17:02] <dominicdinada> 2001 -2003 are the only routable ipv6 address's
[17:02] <npope> cclausen: yea
[17:02] <halvors> so???
[17:02] <cclausen> wack47: I am not sure what is causing that error.  probably some legacy code left over from the upgrade
[17:03] <cclausen> dominicdinada: so what do you suggest?
[17:03] <cclausen> halvors: do you need IPv6 support in that program?  Can you just turn it off?
[17:03] <halvors> It is not an upgrade i installed clean version of 10.04
[17:03] <dominicdinada> well what is the ip he is actually trying to route it to ? the ssl.skymiastudios.com ?
[17:03] <cclausen> halvors: that was for wack47
[17:04] <cclausen> dominicdinada: 10.0.0.2, but it is trying to do AAAA record lookup for some reason and there isn't such a record
[17:04] <halvors> Will i need ipv6 support for be a emailserver for ipv6 customers?
[17:04] <wack47> cclausen: ok, thanx for the help
[17:04] <halvors> Maybe i can turn it off
[17:04] <cclausen> wack47: purge and try clean install of grub and the initramfs tools ?
[17:04] <halvors> Do you need my Postfix main.cf file+
[17:04] <halvors> ?
[17:04] <cclausen> (note that could be dangerious)
[17:05] <wack47> yeah, its the webserver for the business
[17:05] <Pici> !who
[17:05] <wack47> so i cant risk that
[17:05] <cclausen> halvors: postfix config files wouldn't help me.  I install exim4 so I don't have to deal with these issues
[17:05] <wack47> i been thinkin about doing a new web server anyway :p
[17:05] <dominicdinada> 2001:db8::1
[17:06] <dominicdinada> is what i came up for 10.0.0.2
[17:06] <halvors> What is this?
[17:07] <wack47> :/topic #ubuntu-server
[17:07] <dominicdinada> http://www.sixxs.net/forum/?msg=apps-35201
[17:08] <wack47> crap sry
[17:08] <dominicdinada> lol
[17:08] <wack47> :/topic #ubuntu-server testing
[17:08] <wack47> hmm
[17:08] <Pici> wack47: What are you trying to do?
[17:08] <wack47> lol idk
[17:08] <halvors> cclausen???
[17:08] <wack47> just playing around really
[17:09] <wack47> what irc client do yall use?
[17:09] <Pici> wack47: Well, this channel is for support, if you're bored, you can join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:09] <wack47> im in here getting support pici
[17:09] <dominicdinada> wack you are working with your ipv6 correct ?
[17:09] <wack47> nope
[17:09] <dominicdinada> hmmm where did that guy go
[17:10] <wack47> it was halvors i think
[17:10] <wack47> and cclausen was helping him
[17:10] <wack47> i believe
[17:10] <dominicdinada> halvors: ??? your working with your ipv6 and a forest dns server ?
[17:11] <dominicdinada> fe80: is not a routable address... when i googled for 10.0.0.2's ipv6 I came up with 2001:db8::1   per http://www.sixxs.net/forum/?msg=apps-35201
[17:11] <halvors> nO IT SHOULD BE A SIMPLE EMAIL SERVER
[17:11] <halvors> sruy caps lock
[17:12] <halvors> So will i need IPV6 then?
[17:12] <dominicdinada> ok i guess i missed the conversation when you said that
[17:13] <dominicdinada> You really shouldnt.... but a record in your file might be causing the problem. While ipv6 is all around last i heard it is not widely implimented
[17:15] <_ruben> 2000::/3 are the routable addresses, 2000:: till 4000:: (exclusive)
[17:15] <Wack479> cclaussen you still there?
[17:16] <halvors> cclausen??
[17:17] <Wack479> i guess he is gone
[17:19] <halvors> Should my MX record in DNS look like this: skymia.net	MX	1 ss1.skymiastudios.com ?
[17:19] <dominicdinada> _ruben: only 2001 - 2003 are routable :/
[17:20] <dominicdinada> 2000*
[17:22] <_ruben> dominicdinada: nope
[17:22] <_ruben> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-unicast-address-assignments/ipv6-unicast-address-assignments.xhtml
[17:23] <_ruben> or even simpler: http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-address-space/
[17:24] <dominicdinada> I was going off of rfc 5156 :/
[17:24] <Wack479> when running apt-get upgrade i get these errors, and im not sure why, sense they all seem to be working properly! http://pastebin.com/2YZpWAYj
[17:27] <halvors> Have the new kernel for server been keept back?
[17:28] <halvors> your working with your ipv6 and a forest dns server ? No i dont to
[17:29] <dominicdinada> ok cclausen told me you were trying to use 10.0.0.2 a AAAA forest dns server
[17:32] <dominicdinada> While you mentioned something in regards to email when i googled it I came up with this http://www.sixxs.net/forum/?msg=apps-35201  ( I googled it because the fe80 is a local link only address which is unroutable ) As for the 10.0.0.2 MX the ipv6 is 2001:db8::1
[17:32] <halvors> I only try to setup a simple email server
[17:32] <halvors> only b8::1
[17:32] <halvors> ?
[17:33] <halvors> But need i ipv6 for a email server?
[17:33] <dominicdinada> no like i was saying before unless you changed things by default they should have been set...
[17:34] <dominicdinada> The address's set i mean...
[17:34] <halvors> yes so my /etc/hosts file should look like?
[17:34] <cclausen> dominicdinada: halvors is getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/429576/
[17:34] <halvors> Yes :(
[17:35] <cclausen> I was just trying to get rid of it by giving the program an AAAA record to lookup
[17:35] <dominicdinada> Shouldnt your hosts file be set with your own routers ip addy to use you IPs DNS ?
[17:36] <cclausen> Wack479: you had just upgraded right?  did teh upgrade fail?  b/c it looks liek a lot of stuff is half installed
[17:36] <halvors> So how can i disable ipv6 lookup in postfix?
[17:36] <lamont> inet_protocols = ipv4
[17:36] <lamont> I expect
[17:38] <npope> halvors: sorry i missed most of your problem here want to give a quick overview of whats wrong
[17:38] <dominicdinada> sorry phone call
[17:39] <halvors> I get this message when send a email to the server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/429576/
[17:39] <Wack479> no, it said it was successful
[17:39] <npope> are you trying to do ipv6 or is it a side effect?
[17:39] <Wack479> cclaussen: and it said it was successful, and apache and php and mysql are all working
[17:40] <npope> you should try adding "options single-request" to /etc/resolv.conf
[17:40] <Wack479> cclause: but when i apt-get update it gives me that
[17:41] <halvors> clausen: some ideas about solotions?
[17:41] <npope> halvors: you should try adding "options single-request" to  /etc/resolv.conf
[17:42] <npope> halvors: on the postfix server
[17:42] <halvors> ok
[17:42] <dominicdinada> halvors have you read this ?
[17:42] <dominicdinada> http://skymiastudios.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=30
[17:42] <Wack479> cclausen: your just too popular! lol
[17:43] <halvors> yes i writed it for a week ago it worked on my other email server
[17:43] <dominicdinada> Ok...  lol i am dumb
[17:45] <halvors> I too ;)
[17:46] <halvors> But whay i get this error?
[17:46] <dominicdinada> well the error 5.4.4 refers to Cannot find the next hop, check the Routing Group Connector.  Perhaps you have Exchange servers in different Routing Groups, but no connector.
[17:46] <npope> halvors: did you try what i suggesteD?
[17:47] <halvors> no but it should be fine by default?
[17:47] <halvors> It the Ubuntu configuretion files wrong?
[17:47] <dominicdinada> well what does you resolv.conf look like
[17:48] <npope> halvors: obviously you are trying to lookup a ipv6 address.
[17:49] <halvors> here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/429615/
[17:49] <halvors> But WHAY?
[17:49] <cclausen> Wack479: hmm.. well, try and remove the packages and reinstall
[17:50] <Wack479> cclaussen: i have removed some, but not all and reinstalled and it didnt work
[17:50] <npope> halvors: why is the final-recipient halvors-skymia.net@ss1?
[17:50] <Wack479> cclausen: i might have to remove all and reinstall
[17:50] <Wack479> hmmm
[17:51] <cclausen> Wack479: you can try doing an apt-get install listing all of the packages that are missing
[17:51] <halvors> becaouse it is the user i send it to ;)
[17:52] <dominicdinada> @ssl isn't proper
[17:52] <dominicdinada> is it ?
[17:52] <Wack479> cclausen: that gives me the same "error"
[17:52] <cclausen> Wack479: hmm... well, I am not sure what to do then
[17:53] <dominicdinada> ok halvors are you on a home IP?
[17:53] <dominicdinada> ISP*?
[17:53] <Wack479> cclausen:  yeah thats prob why im gonna end up having to just build a new one :/
[17:54] <dominicdinada> http://paste.ubuntu.com/429617/
[17:54] <halvors> Home is behind NAT?
[17:54] <dominicdinada> your resolv.conf in my opinion is wrong there is no gateway ( your isp ) to route the traffic correctly
[17:55] <halvors> the traffic goes via the router hvo have the dns option
[17:55] <halvors> also 10.0.0.1
[17:55] <dominicdinada> you are issuing the command to use 10.0.0.1 BUT.... you list no gateway while npope suggested that there might be another problem...
[17:56] <dominicdinada> but in your resolv.conf    it doesnt refer to your routers gateway/dns
[17:56] <halvors> Maybe i should reinstall the emailserver?
[17:57] <halvors> ???
[17:57] <dominicdinada> remember the error 5.4.4 ( cant find next hop ? ) you can just comment out or change your resolv.conf to (routers ip ) and ummm you are running dns on your server?
[17:57] <halvors> Yes
[17:58] <halvors> only for get more domains on my server
[17:58] <dominicdinada> ok like i said 4x you have no route specified to the internet...
[17:58] <halvors> so
[17:58] <halvors> what should i do?
[17:59] <dominicdinada> change your 10.0.0.1 to your routers gateway
[17:59] <stgraber> why would changing a resolv.conf make any change to the routing ? it's only the DNS that's configured in resolv.conf, if the route is wrong it won't change a thing ... and it's only in limited cases that the router is also the DNS server and only in that kind of case that it should be in resolv.conf (haven't read the whole backlog though)
[17:59] <dominicdinada> because in your network that is the next hop to the internet from there it can be routed correctly
[18:00] <halvors> 10.0.0.1 is the router and the gateway :)
[18:00] <dominicdinada> are you sure  ?
[18:00] <halvors> yes
[18:00] <cclausen> halvors: can you ping 10.0.0.1 ?
[18:00] <halvors> whay
[18:00] <halvors> ok
[18:01] <cclausen> stgraber: I concur.  resolv.conf shouldn't affect routing at all
[18:01] <halvors> i can ping is
[18:01] <halvors> works fine
[18:01] <cclausen> halvors: ok then, now try and see if 10.0.0.1 is a DNS server too
[18:01] <cclausen> halvors: dig www.google.com @10.0.0.1
[18:02] <cclausen> (is that the correct syntax for dig?)
[18:02] <failover> I'm  got this error when try to install a vm with virt-install: libvirtError: internal error unable to start guest: libvir: QEMU error : cannot set ownership on /root/ubuntu-10.04-server-i386.iso: Permission denied - I'm  trying to install as root, someone has a idea, about what i'm doing wrong ?
[18:02] <cclausen> failover: is that mounted right now?  probably can't change a mounted iso file
[18:02] <stgraber> halvors: can you get me the output of "ip route get 1.2.3.4" then to make sure your local routing table is ok
[18:03] <failover> not mounted !
[18:03] <cclausen> failover: can you run chown on it manually?
[18:03] <stgraber> that and cclausen's dig command should tell us if the routing and DNS is working, if 10.0.0.1 doesn't work as DNS, then the easiest will be to try again with a public one (like google's)
[18:03] <failover> yeap!
[18:04] <halvors> it is a dns server it worked
[18:04] <halvors> so???
[18:04] <dominicdinada> cclausen: http://www.fots.nl/index.php/ndr-and-smtp-reply-and-error-codes/ ??? idk
[18:04] <failover> cclausen, to test i already set to chmod 777 and nothing...
[18:05] <cclausen> dominicdinada: wouldn't a DNS failure cause the 5.4.4. error too?
[18:05] <halvors> so???
[18:05] <halvors> what should i do?
[18:05] <dominicdinada> yeah it could be this is causing the problem.... Final-Recipient: rfc822; halvors-skymia.net@ss1
[18:06] <dominicdinada> that is what npope pointed out
[18:06] <halvors> but what should i do now?
[18:07] <dominicdinada> halvors why is it trying to send mail to halvors-skymia.net@ssl ?
[18:08] <halvors> ss1
[18:09] <halvors> not ssl
[18:09] <halvors> it is the domain on my server and i will send email to it
[18:09] <halvors> right
[18:11] <dominicdinada> ok let me try to email that address once
[18:13] <dominicdinada> blah
[18:14] <dominicdinada> cclausen: so what do you think is the problem ?
[18:25] <Insyte> I set up a (Hardy) server to use LDAP authentication.  Worked great.  Now I need to switch it back.  I'd like to revert completely to the default auth config.  Is there a package I can just dpkg-reconfigure to make that happen?
[19:10] <l3dx> Is this a reasonable disk/raid/lvm setup? http://pastebin.com/egVWAm9h
[19:13] <cclausen> l3dx: what makes you think it isn't?
[19:14] <cclausen> Insyte: you can probably just edit /etc/nsswitch.conf and put it back to its original state to disable LDAP auth.  Might be some PAM changes needed as well though.  uninstalling the packages should revert changes in these configs
[19:15] <Insyte> Yeah, I can manually put it back pretty easily.  I'm hoping for an easily automatable task that will revert to the original state.
[19:15] <l3dx> cclausen: it's my first lvm setup, so I just wanted to get a warning if I'm on my way heading for failure :)
[19:18] <deslector> l3dx, is there any reason why you have a separate /boot partition ?
[19:18] <deslector> just curious
[19:18] <jpds> l3dx: Can /boot be on LVM?
[19:18] <l3dx> I'm just used to creating a separate /boot and formatting it as ext2
[19:18] <l3dx> jpds: you tell me :)
[19:18] <jpds> Maybe it can with GRUB2, haven't checked.
[19:18] <deslector> jpds, I believe so
[19:19] <jpds> Neat.
[19:19] <deslector> jpds, at least with lucid
[19:19] <deslector> (grub 2, as you said)
[19:20] <jpds> deslector: Very interesting.
[19:23] <deslector> jpds, yes... it's a nice feature
[19:23] <hggdh> jpds: yes, /boot can be under LVM (mine is)
[19:24] <hggdh> er. *was*. Latest reinstall I forgot to put it there
[19:25] <jpds> hggdh: Hehe.
[19:26] <deslector> l3dx, hmm... encrypted swap may be a problem with hibernating...
[19:30] <deslector> hmm... wait, this is #ubuntu-server... you probably don't want your server to hibernate :-)
[19:35] <l3dx> deslector: guess not ;)
[19:37] <halvors1> I should some domains with Ubuntu, how can i create the domains on the server?
[19:37] <cclausen> halvors1: what do you mean by "domains" ?
[19:38] <halvors1> Yes, so the server can have serval websites email ftp.
[19:38] <halvors1> How can it be done?
[19:38] <halvors1> Do you host on your server?
[19:38] <halvors1> Like a WebHotell
[19:38] <halvors1> ???
[19:39] <halvors1> cclausen: Where are you from?
[19:39] <l3dx> hm, ext2 + lvm = no good?
[19:40] <halvors1> :-D
[19:40] <l3dx> I bet norway!
[19:41] <deslector> l3dx, no good in what sense?
[19:41] <halvors1> Jeg er fra Norge jeg også, hvor bor du?
[19:41] <l3dx> no wait, I bet halvorsen = norway. sorry
[19:42] <l3dx> deslector: I get "The attempt to mount a file system with type ext2 in LVM VG SYstem, LV boot at /boot failed."
[19:42] <Pici> !no
[19:43] <deslector> l3dx, hmm... weird I thought LVM was filesystem agnostic...
[19:47] <halvors1> For setting up a working email server is all i need this: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html ?
[19:47] <cclausen> halvors1: I work at UIUC
[19:48] <cclausen> halvors1: I run some web sites on computers here on campus.  are you using apache?
[19:48] <cclausen> halvors1: are you running your own DNS?
[19:48] <guntbert> halvors1: do you intend to connect the server to the internet?
[20:03] <halvors1> What is UIUC?
[20:04] <halvors1> cclausen er du norsk?
[20:05] <halvors1> cclausen are you Norwegian?
[20:05] <guntbert> !ot | halvors1
[20:27] <Wack479> halvors1: er du norsk?
[20:28] <Pici> !no | Wack479 halvors1
[20:28] <Wack479> lol im not even norwegian!
[20:28] <Wack479> Pici: wow dont get your panties in a wad
[20:28] <Pici> Wack479: How would I know that? I'm just letting you know that there is a norwegian channel.
[20:29] <Wack479> Pici: NO is norway/norwegian! i thought you were yelling at me saying NO, as in no talking norwegian
[20:30] <Wack479> Pici: lol
[20:30] <Pici> Wack479: 'no' is the country code for norway :)
[20:30] <mdasilva> has anyone had a problem where deleting a file with rm doesn't reclaim the disk space?
[20:30] <Wack479> Pici:  haha yeah i figured it out!
[20:30] <Wack479> Pici: sry
[20:31] <Wack479> mdasilva: you sure it wasnt just a symbolic link?
[20:31] <halvors1> Ja Wack479 jeg er norsk vet du ;)
[20:31] <npope> mdasilva: are you sure a running program does not have it open still
[20:31] <mdasilva> Wack479 im sure
[20:32] <npope> mdasilva: sudo lsof | grep filename
[20:32] <mdasilva> im reading something that the kernel wont free the space until file handles are closed?
[20:32] <Wack479> mdasilva: ok that was my only thought!
[20:33] <npope> mdasilva: sudo lsof /location/of/rmed/file
[20:33] <npope> mdasilva: that will list the processes that currently have it open
[20:33] <mdasilva> ya
[20:34] <Wack479> halvors1: haha Vel jeg er ikke norsk, men jeg bruker google oversetteren å skrive på norsk!
[20:34] <npope> mdasilva: the only way to get the space back is to remove the lock on that file (usually done by restarting said process)
[20:34] <mdasilva> yah they have filehandles on them
[20:36] <halvors1> mmmmh,
[20:36] <mdasilva> ah its trickling back
[20:36] <mdasilva> thanks npope
[20:36] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #577165 in vsftpd (main) "Typo in etc/init/vsftpd.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/577165
[20:36] <npope> mdasilva: no problemo
[20:42] <cclausen> halvors1: UIUC is a university in the USA: http://www.uiuc.edu/
[20:43] <cclausen> halvors1: to add virtual hosts for your website domains, take a look at how /etc/apache2/sites-available is setup and add additional config files, one per domain, as needed
[21:05] <marshall> i've got 2 domain names, i want all mail sent to one domain name to go to another domain name. i think i've set up the dns properly, but how do i get postfix to accept messages addressed to this other domain?
[21:05] <mikelifeguard> How can I nominate something for the server-papercuts project?
[21:18] <halvors> Will i need to open port 587 in my firewall for running a email server?
[21:19] <cclausen> you probably should
[21:22] <ScottK> marshall: Needs to be in mydestinations.  See the Ubuntu Server Guide for details.
[21:22] <marshall> ScottK: ok
[21:22] <ScottK> halvors: If you want people to submit mail via the submission port, yes (this is a good thing).
[21:23] <guntbert> halvors: please don't run a publicly connectd mail server if you are not *very well knowing what you are doing*
[21:29] <cclausen> guntbert: that is good advise
[21:29] <cclausen> for the record, I don't run a public mail server from linux b/c I don't know what I am doing
[21:29] <cclausen> (do have Exchange server though...)
[21:30] <guntbert> cclausen: then you even have no chance of knowing what you are doing ;-))
[21:32] <cclausen> yeah, I know :-)
[21:32] <bogeyd6> halvors, why port 587?
[21:34] <cclausen> bogeyd6: see RFC 2476 -> http://www.mostlygeek.com/tech/smtp-on-port-587/
[21:34] <bogeyd6> cclausen, i wanted to get a feel for what he wanted it for
[21:35] <cclausen> bogeyd6: I think he is trying to run email for some domains
[21:36] <bogeyd6> prob should just get turnkey linux zimbra
[21:37] <cclausen> if that even.  IMAP works for a lot of people too.  don't need the hassle of zimbra
[21:37] <bogeyd6> ease of use and everything being graphicaol
[21:38] <bogeyd6> we cant just tell people ITC to not do something because they dont know. that is in fact why they came here
[21:38] <cclausen> Thunderbird is graphical too
[21:38] <bogeyd6> server side*
[21:38] <cclausen> can one apt-get install zimbra?
[21:38] <bogeyd6> n
[21:39] <cclausen> bogeyd6: sometimes advising them not to do it themselves is the best advice we can offer
[21:39] <cclausen> I'm not here to provide free tech support
[21:39] <bogeyd6> !codeofconduct
[21:40] <guntbert> bogeyd6: but it makes a big difference if you run a local mail server (to get your feet wet) or if you run a publicly connected one
[21:40] <bogeyd6> My conservatism knows no bounds
[21:40] <cclausen> bogeyd6: if that document says that we should help people do whatever they want, its clearly wrong and I'm not going to bother reading it
[21:41] <bogeyd6> cclausen, just wow
[21:41] <bogeyd6> When we are unsure, we ask for help. Nobody knows everything, and nobody is expected to be perfect in the Ubuntu community. Asking questions avoids many problems down the road, and so questions are encouraged.
[21:41] <cclausen> bogeyd6: telling people not to run services they don;t understand also avoids problems down the road
[21:42] <guntbert> bogeyd6: cclausen: please cool down again :-)
[21:42] <bogeyd6> cclausen, you are right about being in the wrong channel
 I'm not here to provide free tech support
[21:42] <cclausen> ok
[21:42] <cclausen> good bye
[21:42] <bogeyd6> this whole channel is for tech support
[21:42] <bogeyd6> oh, he left
[21:43] <halvors> I cant recive email on my email server, in the logs i got this: May  7 22:18:43 ss1 dovecot: deliver(halvors-skymia.net): Fatal: Plugin cmusieve not found from directory /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda
[21:43] <halvors> What should i do?
[21:44] <bogeyd6> halvors, did you mean to use the cmusieve plugin
[21:44] <halvors> i got this in logs and i can not recive email
[21:44] <halvors> So what do you think i should do?
[21:44] <bogeyd6> !english | halvors
[21:44] <bogeyd6> !de
[21:45] <halvors> !dovecot
[21:45] <halvors> I talk english
[21:45] <bogeyd6> halvors, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/516040
[21:45] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 516040 in ubuntu-release-notes "dovecot sieve plugin renamed from cmusieve to sieve" [Undecided,Fix released]
[21:46] <halvors> ok will try
[22:20] <dominicdinada> Blast it stupid @ Ebox...
[22:22] <bogeyd6> where do you go see what ubuntu has relased for new packages in 9.10
[22:26] <dominicdinada> bogeyd6: wouldnt that be like update?  apt-get update ?
[22:26] <bogeyd6> yeah but they dont tell you why they got upgraded
[22:27] <dominicdinada> then check the internet for the changelogs?
[22:27] <bogeyd6> trying to find it obviously dominicdinada
[22:32] <dominicdinada> Google (package name+version) changelog ?
[22:33] <dominicdinada> I cant get my stupid network configured correctly I tried setting it via Ebox.... Broke... Undid what I set in ebox... then I configured it manually then nothing wow
[22:43] <dominicdinada> I cant get my stupid network configured correctly I tried setting it via Ebox.... Broke... Undid what I set in ebox... then I configured it manually then nothing wow
[22:43] <bogeyd6> dominicdinada, ubuntu 9.10 ?
[22:44] <dominicdinada> 10.04
[22:45] <dominicdinada> Im think that Ebox needs to go it is really a Piece of crap. While webmin is better...... Ubuntu decided to go a different route
[22:47] <bogeyd6> dominicdinada, www.turnkeylinux.org
[22:47] <dominicdinada> Ok looking at that
[22:48] <dominicdinada> ok not looking at that.... Garbage but thanks for the offer
[23:05] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #576957 in libpam-ldap (main) "passwd crashed when the password is changed through pam_ldap" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576957
[23:10] <dominicdinada> Im think that Ebox needs to go it is really a Piece of crap. While webmin is better...... Ubuntu decided to go a different route
[23:10] <dominicdinada> opps
[23:12] <JanC> dominicdinada: webmin doesn't work correctly with Ubuntu/Debian package management
[23:14] <dominicdinada> JanC: yeah it doesnt and well Ebox is not done breaking my system
[23:14] <JanC> I don't know about ebox, it might have other bugs
[23:15] <dominicdinada> sudo aptitude install dhcp   = 0 upgrade 0 install 68remove and 0 updated lovely
[23:15] <JanC> there is no package named 'dhcp'
[23:16] <dominicdinada> dhcp3-common ?
[23:18] <JanC> that one exists, but really, you should know what you want and act accordingly
[23:19] <JanC> and I have no real experience with ebox, so can't really help with that
[23:20] <dominicdinada> Well lets see I followed directions using ebox to bridge my network connection and set everything correctly but at that point it would not allow any other machine to communicate with the server so I undid the changes
[23:20] <JanC> but AFAIk it will pull in all dependencies of the module you need
[23:20] <dominicdinada> afaik ?
[23:20] <JanC> as far as I know
[23:21] <JanC> I use the commandline for my servers  ;)
[23:21] <dominicdinada> Yea once ebox killed the system it took all of the depends... dhcp3 etc
[23:22] <dominicdinada> I made a correct interfaces file but ebox still left everything binded... so.... no network connection on the other machine to grab the packages i need
[23:23] <dominicdinada> cd bind
[23:49] <dominicdinada> Note to self Blacklist ebox
[23:52] <dominicdinada> I have a question in regards to network bridging. All the documentation refers to the bridge as br0. But I have an interface virbr0 ???