[00:00] GiZy: do you have the /tmp directory with proper rights etc.? [00:00] TheSheep: stopped gdm service, executed Xorg -configure command, then execute the testcommand thats displayed after [00:00] hmmm.... /dev/sda1 free 428G [00:00] jrhers 878Mb [00:00] o* [00:01] still plenty [00:01] I wonder why it failed to setup ICE auth [00:01] GiZy: u can always try to remove all preferences by deleting user data (/home/.*) right ? [00:01] Xorgproblem: never do that command [00:01] Xorgproblem: .* matches .. [00:02] lol i meant .(all folders and files) sorry :( [00:02] Xorgproblem: yep [00:02] Xorgproblem: I was bitten by it a couple of times [00:03] GiZy: you can also just create a new user and try if it works [00:03] but i have onlu 2 users, root and admin)) [00:03] so i think my choice is new user [00:03] useradd -m mynewawesomeuser [00:04] xDDD [00:04] nice name))) [00:04] then passwd mynewawesomeuser to set his password [00:04] this stage i know) [00:05] 'cuz i had some problems with root passwd [00:06] TheSheep: now how do i get gdm? :) since the Xorg will not start [00:06] Xorgproblem: start gdm [00:06] stupid russians -___- [00:06] GiZy: hey! [00:06] i about myself* [00:06] опа)) [00:07] GiZy: you don't have to be representative ;) [00:07] whait a minute [00:07] i'll change encoding =DD [00:07] cyrillic passwords may be a problem [00:07] u mean startx? [00:08] Xorgproblem: no, I mean 'sudo start gdm' [00:08] now))) i mean irc client encoding [00:08] no* [00:08] i'll be back [00:09] i'm here [00:09] thanks for help ^_^ [00:10] so it works? [00:10] well i did startx in another Ctrl Alt F* and im in gdm [00:10] yep)) [00:10] it works))) [00:10] GiZy: it would be nice to know why it broke though [00:11] TheSheep: yes, it would be nice [00:12] it was after i login xfce and switch window them [00:12] i mean xfce session, not xubuntu [00:13] I gotta go, good luck [00:13] bb [00:13] bb [00:13] /quit [01:50] how can one post a bounty to get http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6230 fixed [01:50] ? [01:51] <_Techie_> neozen, i dont think you can post a bounty [01:52] oh but I would [01:52] must've hit it ~20 times today [01:52] <_Techie_> neozen, i have no doubt you would [01:53] <_Techie_> purchasing paid support may help, but i cant gaurantee any results as ive never used this service and never plan to [01:53] <_Techie_> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/services [01:53] its almost enough to make me try to grok C again [01:53] <_Techie_> hang in there [01:53] <_Techie_> ive seen bugs come and go [01:54] I'm really surprised this one made it into a release..... [01:54] do people actually use icon view? :P [01:55] <_Techie_> im not sure [01:55] <_Techie_> i myself use gnome on a standard ubuntu install [01:55] <_Techie_> but i choose to provide help for xubuntu users [01:55] * neozen nods [01:55] still the same base [01:56] a few different default apps [01:56] <_Techie_> yes, which is why i can provide support for most things === haavaros is now known as zer0 === zer0 is now known as xer0 [02:56] hi [03:05] Simple question, anyone to answer? [03:06] ............is that a ping? [03:06] if yes.... pong [03:07] Lol... I guess it kinda was. [03:07] !anyone [03:07] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [03:07] Pfft I'm new >.> [03:07] no worries [03:07] its just a bot [03:08] and some hard-coded boilerplate [03:08] so... what's your question [03:08] So, I'm looking for a lightweight media player that supports ffmpeg. I was using MPC in Windows... I liked that. Can I use it now? [03:08] I tend to use mplayer [03:08] Brand new to the whole linux thing... learning quickly though [03:08] I haven't found much that it doesn't support [03:09] sounds good to me, thanks [03:10] Wrong button... [03:10] .....? [03:11] be advised.... all input to mplayer is keyboard [03:11] sorry, lol. used to a tray... anything near that in ubuntu? [03:11] no gui? [03:11] if buttons are more your style... use one of the frontends: gmplayer or kmplayer [03:12] gnome and kde-based respectively [03:12] gmplayer should pull in less [03:12] package for gmplayer is mplayer-gui [03:12] gmplayer isn't showing up in synaptic? [03:12] oh [03:12] thanks [03:12] no problem [03:13] (had to look it up myself) [03:14] so for programs, I use this synaptic thing, rather than google for them myself, right? any sort of sources I should add to my source list for packages? [03:14] !medibuntu [03:14] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [03:14] eg.... libdvdcss [03:15] (useful if you want to watch dvds) [03:15] ah, I added that one [03:15] so libdvdcss, any other useful things I would want? [03:15] you'll discover as you go [03:16] I've built up a list of packages I install on a clean machine over the years [03:16] i found a libdvdcss2, is that what i'm looking for? [03:16] * neozen nods [03:16] kk [03:16] vlc is more useful for dvds then mplayer I've found [03:16] but that's based on a few years of bias [03:16] they might've fixed the things which irked me by now [03:17] alrighty [03:18] is there any way to add a custom list of programs(packages?) to my top bar? [03:18] Like... Under applications, my own subfolder of selected apps [03:18] ahhh [03:18] I usually just put launchers on the panel [03:19] or set keyboard shortcuts for the really frequent ones [03:19] right click on panel.... "Add new items..." [03:20] pick Launcher" then give it an icon and a command to run [03:20] sound acceptable? [03:20] oh awesome, thanks [03:20] just got it [03:20] the menu (as I understand it) is a pain in the arse to mess w/ [03:21] though its getting standardized [03:21] I like organization, so trying to find what I want in a list every time is annoying. [03:22] there's also xfce4-appfinder [03:23] it crawls the menus... so you don't have to [03:23] crawl... new term [03:23] <_Techie_> whats wrong with mplayer-nogui? [03:23] he's used to a gui [03:23] <_Techie_> lol [03:23] i'm still learning text commands [03:23] <_Techie_> use yor keybaord, its easy [03:24] space still = pause [03:24] i just switch from windows... all this text is scary @_@ [03:24] eheh [03:24] switched* [03:24] <_Techie_> righ = skip ahead 10 secs, left = rewind 10 secs, up = skip ahead 1 min, down = rewind 1 min [03:24] it grows on you [03:24] <_Techie_> page up = skip ahead 10 mins, page down = rewind 10 mins [03:25] the ability to get what you want QUICKLY w/o having to find the right gui button to push or menu item to click [03:25] now I can't get the ffmpeg codec i just installed to show up in mplayer video preferences [03:25] <_Techie_> space = pause, [ + ] = play sped control, f = fullscreen, shift+t = stay on top [03:25] ....... what codec? [03:25] ffmpeg [03:25] <_Techie_> mplayer has its own codecs [03:25] exactly [03:26] <_Techie_> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ [03:26] try playing what you're trying to watch in mplayer first [03:26] unlike totem (the default player) it WON'T pull down more codecs on demand [03:26] i just need to be able to upconvert [03:26] upconvert? [03:26] <_Techie_> om3n5150, aah, i see [03:27] <_Techie_> hes trying to do what i do in windows [03:27] <_Techie_> use ffmpeg to upscale his audio, if im not mistaken [03:27] video, but yes [03:27] makes a sharper image on my display [03:27] <_Techie_> soo [03:27] <_Techie_> oh [03:27] <_Techie_> post processing filters [03:27] <_Techie_> fun stuff [03:28] <_Techie_> for post processing you may wish to use vlc [03:28] i know how to make it work with ffmpeg and MPC [03:28] but i dont think you can get MPC on ubuntu eh? [03:28] <_Techie_> good ol' mpc [03:28] om3n5150: well... there's wine [03:28] <_Techie_> no mpc-hc doesnt exist for linux, its purely win32 only [03:28] but there's a better way [03:28] <_Techie_> i would just use VLC [03:29] * neozen nods [03:29] <_Techie_> theres post processing filter built in [03:29] <_Techie_> very cool stuff [03:30] alright, another very simple question. [03:30] <_Techie_> however, it doesnt quite do the trick for me, as i use ffdshow codecs to upscale all my mp3's and video from 2.0 audio to 5.1 audio [03:30] how do i delete packages? [03:30] sudo apt-get remove [03:30] <_Techie_> sudo apt-get remove packagename [03:30] why thank you lol [03:30] maybe i'm getting ffmpeg and ffdshow mixed up [03:31] yeah... you remove using a program that has "get" in the name [03:31] now that I think of it..... not really all that intuitive... but ::shrugs:: [03:31] so what does the apt-get part mean? [03:31] also... you were saying you're using synaptic to get / install things [03:31] <_Techie_> while the naming doesnt make sense in some aspects, from a program point of view it does [03:31] yes [03:32] apt-get is a command line interface to the same package management system [03:32] (apt) [03:32] <_Techie_> aptitude if you wanna say the whole thing [03:32] well... aptitude is ANOTHER frontend [03:32] <_Techie_> a good one [03:32] (more complicated then apt-get) [03:32] xD frontend is... [03:33] ........::ponders for a good analogy:: [03:33] <_Techie_> frontend is a GUI that allows you to use a basic program or application easily [03:33] oh okay, like the frontend of mplayer was the gui controls [03:33] * neozen nods [03:33] yeah [03:33] <_Techie_> eg mplayer, is a command line media player, but you can get frontends which give it a easy to use interface [03:34] ....."easy to use" is a relative thing [03:34] <_Techie_> haha [03:34] alright, so does mplayer work with ffdshow? [03:34] <_Techie_> no [03:34] no [03:34] or vlc? [03:34] <_Techie_> VLC doesnt work with ffdshow as per say [03:34] ffdshow is a windows thing as I understand it [03:34] <_Techie_> but it does have its own built in post processing filters [03:34] <_Techie_> !vlc [03:34] Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs [03:34] alright, time to play in those... [03:34] <_Techie_> well, thats useful [03:35] !codecs [03:35] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [03:35] <_Techie_> ignore that stuff [03:35] links, bleh. too much reading that i'm in the mood for [03:35] <_Techie_> with VLC it doesnt actually mean jack [03:35] <_Techie_> VLC has its own built in codecs, like mplayer does [03:35] <_Techie_> so really, that is a very misleading factoid [03:35] * neozen nods [03:36] * neozen whacks ubotu with a bit of a stick [03:36] <_Techie_> neozen, if you catch a moderator around can you request that be removed from triggering on VLC [03:36] <_Techie_> i gotta go [03:36] <_Techie_> !mplayer [03:36] mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs [03:36] alright, well thanks for the info =] [03:36] <_Techie_> cool, !mplayer is fine [03:37] <_Techie_> anyway, catcha [03:37] so the post processing filters in vlc, what am i looking for in the menu? [03:37] i have it up [03:37] <_Techie_> om3n5150, if you see me lurking in here feel free to ask for help, if im at my computer ill help ya out [03:37] 1sec [03:37] <_Techie_> umm [03:37] alright thanks =] [03:37] <_Techie_> neozen, you seem to have a handle on this [03:37] <_Techie_> cya [03:37] later [03:38] (just installed lynx so vlc hasn't been installed yet) [03:38] <_Techie_> [ _Techie_ ] is away, rollerblading into town [03:38] basically haven't needed it yet :P [03:38] generally use the ps3 for dvds these days [03:38] * neozen fires up vlc [03:39] lol, I have a library of movies on my other HDD, so ill need it soon [03:39] open a movie [03:39] wtb a 2.5in 1tb [03:39] or a 2.5in 32gb SSD [03:39] either would be nice =] [03:39] under Video menu... many things under Post processing [03:40] play around and find a setting you like [03:40] i dont see post processing... [03:40] nvm... simple menu ftl [03:40] .... on bottom of video menu in my case (though its grayed out since I'm not playing anything) [03:42] any other questions about vlc? [03:42] before I remove it? [03:42] naw, lol, thanks [03:43] Xubuntu is like 1.8 gigs installed right? [03:43] sounds heavy.... but these days... yeah .. probably [03:43] it's been getting fatter [03:43] Well, Ubuntu Netbook Remix is almost 3 gigs. [03:43] i have to go for a while, thanks for the help neozen, ill probably be on later scratching my head at all this new stuff. [03:43] have fun =] [03:43] np om3n5150 [03:44] On an Eee 901A, with a 4 gig SSD, thats like everything. [03:44] have fun [03:44] arthurjohnson: no doubt [03:45] arthurjohnson: http://lxde.org/ [03:45] can always start from command-line only install and add only what you know you'll use [03:46] My daughter keeps running out of space. She has an Eee 901A with a 4gig SSD [03:46] neozen: That method works great for people who know what they are doing, but she is only 10. Can't expect her to run a package manager all day every day just to get her desktop usable. [03:46] splitting off /home onto its own partition helps keep large files in userspace from filling up / too [03:46] arthurjohnson: heh... its true [03:47] http://lxde.org/ [03:47] arthurjohnson: they claim to be lighter these days... perhaps it'll work better for your needs [03:48] neozen: I didn't care for Lubuntu. It was okay, but lacked for me. [03:48] arthurjohnson: same here [03:48] Felt like Xfce4 4.0 [03:48] arthurjohnson: but if space is a concern... you have to sacrifice something to get lighter [03:48] command-line installs are VERY light [03:48] but.... they're command-line only [03:49] its tradeoffs all the way down [03:49] neozen: Oh, I know. Check it: http://leanubuntu.blogspot.com [03:49] <--- Thats me [03:49] nice [03:49] So your preaching to the choir ;) [03:49] I have several machines that I run from cli + just what I need. [03:50] Compaq Presario 700 (500 mhz and 256 megs ram) and it boots in under 40 seconds [03:50] heh [03:51] but again... as you said.... some want it small AND simple [03:51] and that's...... hard [03:51] s/simple/easy to use for beginners/ [03:51] But I don't want to stick my daughter, who is still learning the craft, with a cli only system. It would work great for me, but I want my baby to have a full desktop. [03:51] * neozen nods [03:51] I mean cli+xfce4+whatever [03:51] You know I won't get everything she needs. [03:52] nope [03:52] "Hey, where's the PDF reader" [03:52] and so on. [03:52] running out of space on / the first few times is part of running on a small machine :P [03:52] Indeed! [03:53] and where, as I see it, valuable bugs can be filed [03:53] Still, Ubuntu Netbook Remix should have an option for a leaner install. [03:53] b/c if I EVER fill up a production linux server.... I expect it to be graceful and let me un-bork it [03:55] I had that problem with Ensim + Clamav EOL [03:55] arthurjohnson: good blog.... consider yourself watched :P [03:55] Hard drives filled up on about 30 machines. Spent 18 hours fixint it. [03:55] neozen: Thanks ;) [03:56] I run xu on older machines but nothing actually in its target area (ie... I have a gb of ram and a 1.4ghz processor) [03:57] all this means for me is when MY machine runs/boots xu slowly... something is REALLY messed up [03:58] I'm running Xubuntu 10.04 on a Core2Duo 2.8 with 2 gigs of RAM. It screams. [03:58] * neozen nods [03:58] At one point I was running a cli+xfce4 on it. It was stupid fast! [03:59] well... yeah [04:02] well... time to head out for the night [04:02] l8r [04:02] L8r [04:06] hey guys, im on an ubuntu installation, ive installed xubuntu-desktop, but i cant get xubuntus theme for the gdm nor for xfce [04:07] any help [04:12] hello, ive installed xubuntu-desktop, but i cant get xubuntus theme in gdm nor in xfce, how can i reconfigure them? [06:19] is there an *on connect* script area? [06:19] in xchat* [06:21] afauk no om3n5150 but you might try in #xchat [06:21] afaik* [06:22] alright thanks [06:28] hello [06:28] om3n5150: sorted? [06:29] hello NoradIV :] [06:30] How are you? [06:30] NoradIV: the weekend is here- how could I be anything but great :] [06:31] heh! happy to hear that! [06:31] yorself? [06:31] <_Techie_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRkgH7Uu-hA [06:31] yourself even :] [06:31] a bit tired, since its about 1.30 AM here [06:31] 3.30 pm and i have my first beer in my hand :] [06:32] whoa! starting early boy XD [06:32] eum, as you probably already figured out, I'm here because I have a problem :-( [06:33] that's ok :] [06:33] it's what the channel is for norad [06:33] IV [06:33] As many, I'm trying to recycle an old crappy laptop [06:33] Its an Toshiba portg 3490CT [06:33] yessir, thanks =] [06:34] and the problem is that it wont boot on CD [06:34] I tried Debian, and it install (probably because the nogui install) but id wont work with Xubuntu 9.10 CD [06:34] <_Techie_> NoradIV, does it support booting from CD? [06:35] I suppose not [06:35] <_Techie_> i mean USB* [06:35] no [06:35] <_Techie_> hrmm [06:35] <_Techie_> netboot? [06:35] not either [06:35] <_Techie_> hrmm [06:35] http://yellowsub.wordpress.com/2007/07/28/i-did-it-i-installed-ubuntu-linux-onto-the-toshiba-portege-3490ct/ [06:36] might help... [06:37] Here i see 2 problems, [06:37] <_Techie_> !netboot [06:37] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [06:37] there is the fact that my laptop have only debian core installed, and I have an Xircom PCMCIA network card only [06:38] oh ho [06:38] i like this [06:38] Can read from CD-ROM but will not boot [06:38] <_Techie_> hrmm [06:38] but here is another problem [06:38] i dont have a floppy either XD [06:38] hey, so techie, i'm still confused on what exactly i need to upscale video quality. i googled around and found that mplayer can do it, but all i found was some script info, which doesn't really tell me much. any ideas? [06:39] <_Techie_> om3n5150, well, as far as upscaling goes, by definition its impossible [06:39] tell me when you are back to me [06:39] <_Techie_> the only thing you can do is add filters [06:39] <_Techie_> which you still want to use VLC for [06:40] alright, well go ahead and help NoradIV, ill wait =] [06:40] there is no hurry man, you were here before me! [06:40] i've been here half the day ;D [06:40] <_Techie_> !names [06:40] Ubuntu has an $adjective $animal naming scheme, summarized (and with a list of suggested words which you can add to) at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames [06:40] oh... lol [06:40] well [06:40] <_Techie_> okay, not the faction i was after [06:41] <_Techie_> factiod* [06:41] what about the alternate CD [06:41] lols [06:41] goodwill has floppy drives for under $1 =D [06:41] * om3n5150 whistles [06:42] but there is no place tu put it XD this laptop is so tiny [06:42] usb [06:42] dont work [06:42] its a P3 733 [06:42] oh, cant get drivers huh [06:42] with the crappyest bios i ever saw [06:42] toshiba ones [06:42] p3 733.... old i suppose? [06:43] came with a win2k key [06:43] that's not TOO bad... [06:43] lol [06:43] I wish I wasent anymore a student, so I may have money, and I may have a proper EEPC [06:44] or an ASUS [06:44] the most practical use would be a paperweight... or give it to a son or daughter to take to elemtary school. it will increase their popularity tenfold. [06:44] well, I intent to make an Starcraft Console with it [06:44] ehhhh, i've heard asus mobos are junk [06:44] plait-il? [06:45] seems the only option for the portege 3490ct is the pxe boot [06:45] thoses are the best price/product i-ve seen [06:45] pxe? [06:45] !pxe [06:45] vas ist das? [06:46] There are several ways computers can boot over a network, but the one mandated by PC99 is called PXE. PXE is a kind of DHCP extension, so all you need is an up-to-date DHCP server and a TFTP server. [06:46] * om3n5150 wanted to sound smart too [06:46] that was i thought XD [06:47] there is an brain fart over there XD [06:47] i much prefer this channel over #ubuntu... even though i'm not even running xubuntu. [06:47] I have an PFSence router, thats probably ok [06:47] i guess [06:48] so how i do that? [06:48] http://yellowsub.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/successfully-installed-ubuntu-on-another-toshiba-portege-3490ct/ [06:49] alright, well moetunes has norad, so techie, about vlc options [06:49] lots of links today from me - google.com/linux ftw [06:50] ok [06:50] i get it [06:50] I have to Install the core of ubuntu [06:50] then [06:50] install the Xserver [06:50] right? [06:51] I feel soooooo stupid since I tried Linux [06:52] NoradIV: I didn't read the links just copy/pasted them mate - I don't have that lappy... [06:52] I'm kinda hot with windows [06:52] hmm? [06:52] dude me too [06:52] but [06:52] i'm trying to broaden my horizons""" [06:52] same [06:52] one min and I'll have a read [06:53] and I grow tired of all those Close Too Expensive I'm A Badass Software And You Have No Control On What You Do [06:53] like [06:53] NoradIV: you need a comp on the lan running windows - do you have one? [06:53] lol, i just like playing on a different OS [06:53] yes [06:54] when I saw Win7 at 400 buck, I grew so insulted [06:54] that I said that there is other possibility [06:55] NoradIV: I'm following this link - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=327597 - does your lappy have pxe boot capabilities(it should have since this link is about that lappy - the bios should tell) [06:55] _Techie_, did you get off? [06:55] <_Techie_> huh? [06:56] nevermind then ;D [06:56] just was wondering if you could help with the vlc settings, if you arent busy [06:56] its just written LAN [06:56] <_Techie_> well, im gonna be leaving to go dancing then heading to a party in about 5 minutes [06:56] there is a ooops there [06:57] i have an PCMCIA network card [06:57] nevermind [06:57] i have the extension [06:58] alright, well have fun, lol [06:58] I'll try that [06:59] then I'll come back tommorow if it dosent work, ok? [06:59] NoradIV: you need to install http://tftpd32.jounin.net/ on the windows comp [06:59] k [07:06] well [07:06] I'm trying the alternate install CD [07:06] and its working [07:06] so [07:06] sorry for wasting your time [07:07] NoradIV: glad you found a way :] [07:18] NoradIV, yay you win! [07:18] well [07:18] its installing now [07:19] its not over, until its over [07:19] well, i have to go for now. [07:19] good luck NoradIV =] [07:19] thanks [07:19] you too man [07:19] laters =] [09:01] ciao [09:01] can't login to xubuntu 10.04 live [09:02] user ubuntu with blank pass doesn't work [09:03] you shouldn't get that screen - did you do the cd chack? [09:03] or check even [09:03] what is the cd chack? [09:04] he meant check [09:04] downloaded xubuntu 10.04 , burned , started live [09:04] where did you get that copy of 10.04 from? [09:04] at the boot you have the option to do a cd check - it is a good idea [09:05] psycho_oreos, http://xubuntu.org/getubuntu [09:05]