[00:00] <strakis> hello
[00:01] <strakis> is this the right place for a question/bug/problem?
[00:01] <compilerwriter> Yea I have Jave and flash working now.
[00:01] <yofel> if you need help with something, fire away
[00:02] <compilerwriter> thanks yofel and apparle
[00:02] <strakis> just upgraded to 10.04 (after some hours of downloading/installing) and desktop is responding very slow
[00:03] <strakis> i managed to type kwin --replace (since i was using compiz with version 9) and everything almost was ok
[00:03] <strakis> but the notification says compositing was too slow and was stop or something like that
[00:04] <strakis> desktop responds ok without compositing but is it just me or a bug or something?
[00:05] <strakis> fyi glxinfo says i have direct rendering so it shouldn't be the gpu (9800gt)
[00:10] <andre> oh, is there a good package manager for kde?
[00:10] <andre> this KPackageKit is not really good
[00:11] <Raubtier__> aptitude ;-)
[00:12] <Raubtier__> + konsole
[00:13] <andre> Raubtier__: i mean something with an ui
[00:13] <andre> i hate the terminal!
[00:16] <Raubtier__> I thought packagekit might have been improved - but no, it hasn't. so for example if you are asked something during installation, it goes wrong with kpackagekit
[00:16] <strakis> i think i found my problem, xorg.conf has been replaced with a default(?) one during the upgrade, so this could be it... if anyone else has compositing errors check xorg, it may help
[00:17] <Raubtier__> (I tried to install openafs - so use terminal whenever possible)
[00:21] <asif> hi all
[00:22] <asif> having java probs with ubuntu 10.04
[00:22] <apparle> andre: I have plans for developing one... but it will take time :P
[00:22] <asif> can anyone help?
[00:22] <andre> hm…
[00:30] <strakis> hello again, X crashed...
[00:31] <strakis> any easy way to rebuild x for nvidia module?
[00:34] <genii> It's usually the other way around. eg: you build a module to work within the framework of X
[00:35] <xrfang> akonadi server is not running, why, and where can I make it auto-start when booting? thanks
[00:36] <okapi14> what is akonadi?
[00:36] <strakis> sorry, i didn't mean to rebuild x, i meant the configuration xorg.conf
[00:37] <Izinucs> So what's up with bluetooth?  My adaptor works and will connect with my cell but won't connect with a headset.. Is there a library that I need to add?
[00:39] <supermagnum> Hi, sometimes my computer hangs during boot, the screen goes black and i have to shut it down and try again. Does anyone know what causes this ?
[00:39] <supermagnum> i have only kubuntu 10
[00:40] <apparle> supermagnum: the screen goes black and monitor turns off?
[00:41] <supermagnum> yes.
[00:41] <apparle> supermagnum: which graphic card.. or onboard graphics processor
[00:42] <supermagnum> ATI Technologies Inc RV530LE [Radeon X1600/X1650 PRO]
[00:42] <supermagnum> kubuntu 9.10 never behaved like that
[00:43] <apparle> supermagnum: have you tried disabling kms
[00:44] <supermagnum> no..
[00:44] <supermagnum> i have disabled nepomuk
[00:44] <xrfang> supermagnum: I have same problem before, but never happened on 10.04 yet, using ATI X200M
[00:45] <xrfang> supermagnum: is this a notebook?
[00:45] <supermagnum> no, a stationary
[00:46] <xrfang> supermagnum: my problem during 9.10 was cured if I unplug the USB mouse... this problem happened around 1 in every 3-4 boots...
[00:46] <xrfang> supermagnum: but did not happen if I unplug the usb mouse, and plug-in after boot.
[00:47] <supermagnum> i do have some problems with the usb too.. somethmes the usb mice is unresponsice, but unpligging and plugging it in again solves it
[00:47] <apparle> xrfang: I don't think that is related to mouse, because I have X200 and I had the same problem but it got cured in 10.04
[00:48] <supermagnum> i cannot find any warnings in the system log
[00:48] <xrfang> apparle: ok, anyway it is gone in 10.04 :)
[00:48] <apparle> xrfang: Can't say actually, it may come back with KMS :P Right now I have KMS disabled
[00:50] <supermagnum> does anyone know if the touchscreen configuration setup related to a panasonic CF-29 has been fixed?
[00:53] <supermagnum> http://forum.notebookreview.com/panasonic/369483-cf-28-touch-screen-installation-recent-linux-distributions.html  thats what i am talking about
[00:53] <|sysop|> hi guys. I am running 9.10 and I having issues with akondi and the akonadi-kde-resource-googledata plugin
[00:54] <|sysop|> I put in my info and it says online but the akonadi console says.
[00:54] <|sysop|>  CREATE "akonadi_googledata_resource_0" 0 (MIMETYPE (text/directory) REMOTEID "google-contacts" CACHEPOLICY (INHERIT true))  NO Could not create collection
[00:55] <|sysop|> any ideas?
[00:56] <xrfang> apparle: KMS is by default ON or OFF?
[00:56] <apparle> xrfang: in 10.04 I think it is on
[00:56] <xrfang> apparle: my laptop has heating problem, I changed to ati driver, but does not work for X200,
[00:57] <xrfang> I did not touch KMS setting, and it works well now
[00:57] <xrfang> however, the driver still has some bug I think. this bug exists long ago and I discovered it when I was trying mandriva 2009.1
[00:58] <apparle> xrfang: good for you, if I have KMS enabled I don't get compositing
[00:58] <apparle> xrfang: heating problem? and changed to ati driver=?
[00:59] <xrfang> symptom of this bug which still happen occasionally is the whole pc get locked and the screen "melted", showing very scaring "plasma" pattern...
[01:00] <apparle> xrfang: actually the driver is a total mess, neither do I get proper acceleration nor suspend etc. Also unnecessarily cpu load is quite high
[01:00] <supermagnum_> anything on the touchscreen calibration ?
[01:04] <bertoldo> Hi every one. It's my first time here.
[01:05] <strakis> hello bertoldo
[01:06] <bertoldo> I'm a Brazilian developer and I'm trying to figure out how to help kubuntu to get better.
[01:06] <apparle> !hi | bertoldo
[01:12] <|sysop|> hi who here is good with akondi?
[01:13] <|sysop|> hi who here is good with akonadi, i mean?
[01:15] <apparle> what all backends are available for phonon
[01:19] <progre55> hey slackers)
[01:29] <contrast> Greets, everyone... Is it possible to make a window not be included in KWin's window switchers?
[01:30] <Lucida> Buenas A Tod@s....!!!
[01:30] <Lucida> Alguien que me pase el canal en español del konversation?
[01:32] <Dragnslcr> !es | Lucida
[01:33] <supermagnum_> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3111694.0
[01:43] <zus> when opening up kontack i get akondai server-selftest window shows 3 red x's.  this is the first time i've opened up kontact.
[01:45] <zus> no resources agent fount / previous akonadi server error log / previous akonadi control error log found
[01:48] <Marko38> hi all, could use a little help, new to linux here, I've just updated to the latest ubuntu kernel, solved the problem of missing title bars on windows, got the radio buttons back on the right hand side of the monitor where they belong, now i need to get icons back on my desktop and restore the right click menus there, any suggestions?
[01:53] <progre55> Marko38: gnome or kde?
[01:54] <Marko38> good question.. as I said, new to linux let me look see...
[01:54] <progre55> Marko38: well, is it ubuntu or kubuntu?
[01:54] <progre55> cause half of what you've done sounds like ubuntu, and the icons on desktop and right click sounds like kde
[01:55] <Marko38> gnome and ubuntu
[01:55] <progre55> oh okay, this is the kubuntu channel though..
[01:56] <progre55> what's up with your desktop icons, you say?
[01:56] <Marko38> there are no icons on my desktop
[01:56] <Marko38> they are there if i look in desktop folder under the places menu
[01:56] <progre55> Marko38: and what kind of icons were you expecting there to be?
[01:57] <progre55> oh, I see
[01:57] <avihay> How can you setup kubuntu to work with multiple languages like in windows?
[01:57] <progre55> I dont remember how it was done on ubuntu, but try to right-click and see the menus..
[01:57] <progre55> I remember there was an option to show/hide the icons
[01:57] <zus> Marko38,  i dont think in ubuntu there are any icons on the desktop initially.
[01:58] <Marko38> right click on the desktop does not work...no pop up menu
[01:58] <progre55> zus: but he has there is stuff in his Desktop folder..
[01:59] <progre55> Marko38: well that's weird..
[01:59] <Marko38> there should at least be short cuts to the cd drives also..
[01:59] <progre55> Marko38: not unless you have a CD inside
[01:59] <Marko38> there are disks in there
[01:59] <zus> Marko38, try  in the #ubuntu channel. i dont remeber if there would be any icons even if there is stuff in the folder
[02:00] <zus> Marko38,  yea when you mount the drives then they appear
[02:00] <Marko38> also if i drag an item to the desktop it ignores me... will try there, this was just the default chanel...
[02:01] <zus> Marko38,  like putting in a usb or a cd,  hmm draggin any thing then should appear in both destop folder and on the desktop
[02:02] <progre55> sounds like the kubuntu desktop =)
[02:02] <zus> lol i like my widget
[02:02] <zus> im actually thinking on installing the ubuntu-desktop
[02:03] <progre55> yeah I have that )
[02:03] <progre55> used to have ubuntu, then installed kubuntu-desktop
[02:03] <progre55> like a week ago
[02:03] <progre55> and kinda like the way kubuntu looks
[02:03] <progre55> it's really pretty)
[02:03] <zus> too blue
[02:03] <Marko38> i dunno they were there b4 I updated, and looking under the system menu I see about gnome not kde
[02:03] <progre55> zus: there are other themes, you know )
[02:04] <zus> this afternoon i asked how to install  icons  i downloaded i got no reply
[02:04] <progre55> zus: I install them from the settings directly
[02:04] <progre55> like
[02:05] <progre55> "get more themes" or "get more icons"
[02:05] <progre55> Marko38: try #ubuntu
[02:05] <Marko38> heading there now, thats for your time
[02:05] <zus> Marko38,  i would try the #ubuntu channel then. i dont remember much from gnome i've been learning so much of kde
[02:05] <Marko38> thanks#
[02:06] <progre55> np
[02:06] <zus> Marko38,  youre welcome
[02:06] <zus> progre55,  i did, and nothing showed up, its marked as installed but i dont see it as an option i went straight to kde-look.org
[02:07] <zus> i got the .tar.gz and i dont know how to from there
[02:07] <progre55> zus: after installing, you should chose it to be the "active" one )
[02:08] <zus> progre55,  i went and grabbed all i wanted i didn't see any available to change as i download
[02:08] <progre55> zus: and also, open systemSettings > appearance
[02:08] <progre55> and try "Install Theme File"
[02:08] <zus> sec,...
[02:09] <progre55> zus: it will ask you for the location
[02:09] <progre55> choose the tar.gz file you have
[02:10] <zus> this theme is not a valid icon file,...
[02:10] <progre55> zus: oh, you said you downloaded icon themes, right? you'll need to chose "icons" in the appearance
[02:10] <progre55> hmm
[02:10] <progre55> can you send me the link to the theme?
[02:10] <progre55> I'll download it and try
[02:11] <progre55> or at least the name of the theme
[02:11] <zus> got to find it again gimme a sec :)
[02:12] <jken> hi
[02:12] <progre55> hi
[02:12] <jken> kubuntu ibus add wubi input?
[02:12] <progre55> no idea what you just said )
[02:15] <zus> progre55,  oxygen green is the name of the icons and its under latest and  on my window is the first one
[02:16] <progre55> zus: hmm.. it's not even respoonding to my "install" =)
[02:17] <zus> progre55, so its not just me.
[02:17] <progre55> zus: yeah, maybe it's the icon theme..
[02:18] <zus> progre55,  it not the only one though there are few other wallpapers and such
[02:18] <zus> progre55,  try here the http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+Green?content=124226
[02:18] <progre55> sec
[02:21] <progre55> wow, it'll download it for ages)
[02:21] <marcoftheknight> hey
[02:22] <marcoftheknight> how do I make a new channel or room
[02:22] <marcoftheknight> ?>
[02:22] <progre55> just click here #mynewchannel
[02:22] <progre55> =)
[02:23] <marcoftheknight> cool
[02:23] <marcoftheknight> #marcoftheknigh
[02:23] <progre55> yeah, now you need to advertise it =)
[02:24] <marcoftheknight> can I make a channel from file> ... or another way
[02:24] <marcoftheknight> ?
[02:24] <progre55> no idea
[02:24] <progre55> what client are you using?
[02:26] <marcoftheknight> OH dude
[02:26] <marcoftheknight> just join channel
[02:26] <zus> progre55,  did it work for you?
[02:26] <marcoftheknight> and it will make a new one and you can set the password
[02:26] <marcoftheknight> sweet
[02:26] <marcoftheknight> file> join channel
[02:26] <progre55> zus: nah, still downloading )
[02:26] <marcoftheknight> make what ever you want
[02:27] <progre55> marcoftheknight: good for you =)
[02:27] <kubuntero> how do I see a Software raid from the Live CD ?
[02:30] <zus> marcoftheknight,  what are yu using for irc chats?
[02:31] <progre55> konversation, I suppose
[02:31] <progre55> Konversation 1.2
[02:31] <progre55> =)
[02:32] <zus> i grew used to x chat
[02:33] <progre55> yeah, I was also using xchat some days ago..
[02:33] <zus> i will tackle quassel (sp) soon
[02:33] <progre55> btw, I was on ubuntu, then installed konversation
[02:33] <progre55> it pulled in a bunch of kde libs with itself..
[02:34] <progre55> then wanted to remove them, and came into this channel
[02:34] <progre55> and ended up installing kubuntu-desktop :)
[02:34] <kubuntero> progre55: Hmm ok
[02:34] <kubuntero> progre55: welcome to Kubuntu then :)
[02:34] <progre55> zus: btw, the theme didnts install
[02:34] <progre55> kubuntero: thanks)
[02:34] <progre55> zus: it says it's not a proper theme archive
[02:36] <zus> progre55,  i get the same thing,...
[02:36] <zus> progre55, so much for mint colors...or close to it
[02:38] <progre55> zus:the ones that say "for KDE 4" install properly..
[02:43] <zus> progre55,  got the link? please
[02:44] <progre55> zus: no I mean directly from the systemSettings, when you click on "get more themes"
[02:45] <progre55> zus: and some of they say "for kde 4" in their descr.
[02:47] <zus> progre55,  one sec
[02:49] <amorphous> hey! I just installed lucid 10.4 kubuntu, but no mp3 support, no ubuntuone and nothing online relating to anything about either :/ is there no kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[02:49] <zus> amorphous,  there is
[02:50] <amorphous> zus... there is which?
[02:50] <amorphous> there seems to be only 9.10 support
[02:51] <amorphous> and there is not mp3 or ubuntuone (not here anyways) even after i installed ubuntuone-client-kde and run  ubuntuone-launch
[02:52] <zus> amorphous,  http://kubuntuguide.org/Lucid this is what i've used to get going
[02:53] <amorphous> thanks zus - going in now... ;)
[02:55] <zus> amorphous,  welcome. i knw the kubuntu-restricted extras are in there (somewhere)
[02:58] <zus> progre55,  also the kde4 crystal icons aint working  either..
[03:00] <amorphous> zus - no. they're not.
[03:00] <amorphous> nor is anything apropos ubuntuone
[03:01] <amorphous> :/
[03:01] <bazhang> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:01] <amorphous> Aahhhh.. multiverse... sources.list does not include multiverse...
[03:03] <bazhang> !info ubuntuone-client
[03:20] <amorphous> how do i get ubuntuone on my new kubuntu-lynx
[03:20] <amorphous> ?
[03:22] <bazhang> amorphous, install it
[03:24] <amorphous> bazhang, have done... ubuntuone-client-kde, yes? it's installed but no dir in my home dir, and no little cloud in the system tray. restarted too....
[03:24] <amorphous> but no joy
[03:24] <progre55> amorphous: look in the menu > Internet?
[03:24] <bazhang> !info ubuntuone-client-kde
[03:25] <bazhang> no such package
[03:25] <amorphous> it does on my fresh install
[03:25] <amorphous> !
[03:25] <progre55> amorphous: just install ubuntuone-client
[03:25] <amorphous> should i register this as a bug?
[03:26] <amorphous> progre55, it's installed, but doesnt wok
[03:26] <bazhang> it's ubuntuone-client
[03:26] <amorphous> *work
[03:26] <amorphous> bazhang, yep. installed it
[03:26] <bazhang> !work
[03:26] <amorphous> then the ubuntuone-clien-kde, but to no avail...
[03:27] <progre55> amorphous: open your menu and try to type "ubuntu" on the search panel?
[03:27] <bazhang> alt f2 ubuntuone-client
[03:28] <dennister> when you're moving lots of files with jaunty, how do you get the progress monitor of that process to stay visible?
[03:28] <amorphous> been there too, and in term
[03:28] <progre55> nope, alt+f2 ubuntuone-launch
[03:28] <amorphous> also lucid runs very slow
[03:28] <amorphous> maybe I should go back to koala
[03:29] <progre55> amorphous: did you try alt+f2 ubuntuone-launch?
[03:30] <amorphous> progre55, Nada
[03:30] <amorphous> progre55, Nothing
[03:30] <amorphous> progre55, :(
[03:31] <progre55> amorphous: try running it from the terminal, and see if there are any error messages?
[03:32] <dennister> how's 10.04? LTS server edition? have they got the initial bugs out yet?
[03:33] <amorphous> only ubuntuone-launch exists in the term, and that just seems to return the prompt
[03:33] <amorphous> even with a -v in there with it
[03:34] <amorphous> no man page
[03:34] <dennister> amorphous: lynx still slow?
[03:38] <dennister> when you're moving lots of files with jaunty, how do you get the progress monitor of that process to stay visible?
[03:39] <darkdelusions> I always move large quanties from command line so i am not sure assuming they are all the same file type
[03:39] <bazhang> #ubuntuone may also help amorphous
[03:40] <Erthe> Hey folks.  Is anyone experiencing the Quick Access Browser plasmoid lagging the plasma desktop when it's open?  Using Kubuntu 10.04, patched up.
[03:40] <dennister> darkdelusions: well i've been trying to stick with the guis 'cuz I was training newbies on ubuntu, but since I'm not doing that at the moment...
[03:41] <dennister> i want to redo this system of my own this weekend, and have already gotten discouraged by reading the reviews of 10.04
[03:41] <dennister> and my beloved hardy won't be supported much longer, I know
[03:42] <darkdelusions> dennister: 10.04 has been pretty solid for me
[03:42] <darkdelusions> there have been a few glitches
[03:42] <dennister> no maintenance release out yet, I guess?
[03:42] <zus> 10-4 has been good and  KDE4.4.3 as well
[03:42] <darkdelusions> but I havent had to spend 2 hours putting fixes in places like i did 8.04 and 9.04
[03:44] <dennister> does kde 4.4.3 keep the progress bar of large-file moves visible? I don't like jaunty's version of kde 'cuz the progress window disappears
[03:44] <darkdelusions> the only issue i have is I can install the nvidia driver from nvidia website so I am using the one from the restricted drivers which is fine for me
[03:44] <darkdelusions> *can't
[03:45] <darkdelusions> dennister:  I dont have anythinf on my system to test that for you
[03:45] <zus> dennister, in the lower right it hides for me
[03:45] <darkdelusions> but when I move files it does use the "messages"
[03:45] <zus> with the notifier
[03:46] <dennister> zus: yes, but I don't want it to hide seconds after the move has started...i need to be able to tell when the move is done, and that I'm not told
[03:46] <dennister> zus: which notifier? can I change the option to make it stay visible so I can monitor move's progress?
[03:46] <Erthe> Is anyone having any plasmoid issues at all?
[03:47] <zus> dennister,  i have, i like it to hide but sometimes it stays on
[03:47] <darkdelusions> dennister: You can click on the notifer button and they should pop back upo
[03:48] <dennister> zus: what's the notifier's name, where is it? if it's in the system tray, I can't find it
[03:48] <zus> dennister,  the I by the time
[03:49] <zus> i constantly move files from the 9gig home to my 250HDD
[03:49] <dennister> zus: k, i'll go take a look at the other machine where jaunty is loaded...will take some time cuz I have to wait for the projector to warm up
[03:50] <dennister> no other monitor connected :)
[03:50] <zus> using a wall for a monitor?
[03:50] <dennister> nope, a new real projection screen, to hide the bookcase and washroom door behind it
[03:51] <zus> buddy of mine uses the bedroom wall
[03:52] <dennister> i used to use the livingroom wall when I moved in here a month ago, but the only adequate spot for the projector, really, was on the iwndow sill behind the new spot for the futon
[03:52] <dennister> and the sheet I used at first showed every wrinkle, so hello projection screen
[03:53] <dennister> i also moved this dual core pc into the bedroom, cuz of the noise from the fans, and am only using a 1Gz p3 in the living room
[03:54] <darkdelusions> I really wish I could find a way to get Kubuntu to auto login to wifi and not prompt for the wallet password like you can do in ubuntu
[03:54] <darkdelusions> this kinda driving me batty
[03:55] <dennister> i can't even login to my wifi with the tablet pc to my own wifi 2wire...it was setup properly at the last place, for the first week or so, but here I end up using a neighbour's wifi for the tablet pc...that's driving me batty :)
[03:56] <dennister> and I'm using ubuntu on the tablet pc
[03:58] <dennister> oh no...sorry, it is kubuntu on the tablet that I use, just the gdm, and it never asks to open kde wallet anymore
[03:59] <dennister> darkdelusions: maybe that's a clue to my wifi issues :)
[03:59] <zus> would there be any conflicts with installing ubuntu-desktop or even ubuntustudios?
[03:59] <abhifx> hi there. plymouth is running even after my system loads up. its eating my resources... any suggestions
[04:00] <darkdelusions> Well in ubuntu you could go in and select all users have access to wireless so it wouldnt ask you for the wallet password
[04:00] <dennister> zus: what do you mean? conflicts between ubuntu-desktop and what else?
[04:01] <dennister> i've never used ubuntustudios
[04:01] <zus> ubuntu -studios
[04:01] <darkdelusions> abhifx: let me see what i can find
[04:01] <zus>  also what is plymouth? i came across a youtube video on it but never clicked it
[04:02] <abhifx> darkdelusions, thank you
[04:02] <dennister> sorry, can't answer that...will check out the wifi/kde wallet issue on the tablet
[04:03] <hstefan> hey, I've installed Kubuntu 10.04 here but the taskbar is half-sized, there's any way to 'expand' this?
[04:03] <darkdelusions> abhifx: google hate me tonight
[04:04] <abhifx> darkdelusions, why so?
[04:04] <darkdelusions> abhifx: everything I have attempted to look up i have stuck out on
[04:04] <darkdelusions> hstefan: you can resize the bar
[04:04] <abhifx> darkdelusions, but... about my problem?
[04:05] <darkdelusions> hstefan: by clicking on the swirl on right hand side
[04:05] <hstefan> darkdelusions: how I do this?
[04:05] <hstefan> ok
[04:05] <hstefan> let me try.
[04:05] <darkdelusions> hstefan:  I wasnt able to find anything about plymoth running after boot
[04:06] <hstefan> thank you darkdelusions
[04:07] <darkdelusions> hstefan: you get it fixed?
[04:09] <dennister> darkdelusions: sorry, I think the battery being sc**ed on the tablet means it'll take awhile for me to investigate your issue with the wallet/wifi, it doesn't want to turn on and stay on
[04:09] <darkdelusions> dennister: its not a big deal
[04:09] <dennister> that's driving me batty...probably time to ask for a new battery for mother's day, eh?
[04:09] <darkdelusions> rofl
[04:10] <dennister> although i'm not sure if it's the battery not holding the charge (or recognizing it, or whether the problem is with the power adapter :(
[04:11] <darkdelusions> sigh why do i even sign on to icq anymroe
[04:12] <darkdelusions> incomming spam message i am sure
[04:12] <dennister> the fact that the battery has been staying at 0% is the clue to the battery itself being the problem I guess?
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> darkdelusions- for the chicks?
[04:12] <darkdelusions> better question why does ICQ still exist :)
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> Heh, that too
[04:13] <dennister> cheap porn?
[04:13] <darkdelusions> and why would some company buy it from aol :)
[04:13]  * dennister has never used icq
[04:14] <darkdelusions> dennister: it was all the rage in 1998 :)
[04:14] <darkdelusions> rofl
[04:14] <dennister> for chicks?
[04:14]  * darkdelusions shrugs
[04:15] <dennister> if that's the case, my being female, a single mom in 1998, and a workaholic back in 1998 would explain why I never used icq, perhaps
[04:15] <Gamarok__> hello people
[04:17] <dennister> my son's babysitter used it to meet men, though, but she was home most of the day...anyway, I'm off to the living room to try and modify the notifier for file transfers on the jaunty pc
[04:17] <dennister> bbl
[04:23] <rekoner> hey kubuntero
[04:43] <okapi14> why it is so hard to find a list of available repositories? Anyone have an idea where to find them?
[04:43] <darkdelusions> is there something specfic your looking for
[04:44] <darkdelusions> the default repos should have just about everything in them
[04:45] <darkdelusions> the only extra things I have to add is Wine, metibuntu and every know and then I will run accross a ppa i have to add
[04:56] <thomas___> does anyone else have a problem when they log out and leave the computer idle? somereason my screen goes black and mouse and keyboard are unresponsive (caps lock doesnt lite up etc.)
[04:58] <darkdelusions> thomas___:  did you try clicking a botton you mouse?
[04:58] <thomas___> ya ive moved the mouse clicked all the buttons, hit space bar, enter, i even tried ctrl+alt+f1 to try to restart kdm but it just sits at a black screen
[04:59] <iconmefisto> thomas___: ati graphics?
[04:59] <thomas___> hell no, nvidia lol
[04:59] <thomas___> ive used ati before dont like em i stick with good ol nvidia :p
[05:00] <iconmefisto> thomas___: I get that too, I assumed it was the new radeon drivers to blame
[05:00] <thomas___> well it only happend once i upgraded distro
[05:02] <Gamarok_> i have a problem you see the none of the graphic card drivers work for my version of nvida card which is g210m and when ever i insstall them i get a blank screen
[05:02] <thomas___> have you went to nvidia site and downloaded them manualy?
[05:03] <Gamarok_> well you know the site says that 185 or wont work for it but 195 would so i downloaded the run file installed it but the problem still presists
[05:04] <Gamarok_> i really hate the fact that i can't use my card
[05:04] <iconmefisto> Gamarok_: the opensource driver doesn't work either?
[05:05] <Gamarok_> u mean the nouveu driver
[05:05] <thomas___> hes talking bout the driver from "driver manager"
[05:05] <thomas___> may bad
[05:05] <iconmefisto> Gamarok_: yes, nouveau
[05:05] <thomas___> its "hardware drivers"
[05:06] <Gamarok_> it doesnt work either
[05:06] <Gamarok_> i had to use nomodeset or safe mode to even boot into the live cd
[05:07] <thomas___> im guessings it intergrated?
[05:08] <Gamarok_> yes
[05:08] <Gamarok_> it is
[05:09] <Gamarok_> apparently a lot of people are having this problem
[05:09] <Gamarok_> http://bit.ly/bTSsWH
[05:09] <Gamarok_> well?
[05:09] <thomas___> think i found a fix, http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1361466&page=2
[05:10] <thomas___> apperently switching SATA to compatibility mode fixed it for a few people
[05:12] <Gamarok_> lemme try that sata fix
[05:12] <Gamarok_> brb thomas___
[05:12] <Gamarok_> and thanks
[05:12] <thomas___> alright
[05:13] <iconmefisto> good find thomas___. who would think it's a bios setting to blame!
[05:15] <thomas___> well with ati you never know lol
[05:17] <Gamarok__> thomas___ i have no such option in my bios dude
[05:18] <thomas___> any SATA options at all?
[05:19] <Gamarok__> nah man all my bios allows me to do is change the system date and time set a password and change the boot order
[05:19] <Gamarok__> is there anyway around this
[05:21] <thomas___> have you looked at your xorg to see if anythings out of placE?
[05:23] <iconmefisto> Gamarok__: maybe see if you can find a bios upgrade?
[05:25] <gammie> sry abt that thomas___ i got dc
[05:25] <thomas___> its alright
[05:25] <gammie> http://bit.ly/9e7pdS why does'nt this work
[05:26] <gammie> it says there that my card is supported
[05:26] <thomas___> did you uninstall the old drivers before installing these?
[05:27] <gammie> yes
[05:27] <gammie> ofcourse i did
[05:27] <thomas___> running 64bit?
[05:28] <gammie> yup
[05:28] <gammie> 64 bit kubuntu on a 64 bit architecture
[05:30] <thomas___> type in terminal "uname -a"
[05:31] <gammie> Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 28 13:28:05 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:31] <gammie> thats what  i get
[05:33] <thomas___> have you looked at your xorg.conf?
[05:34] <gammie> where would i find that
[05:34] <thomas___> type in terminal "sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[05:35] <thomas___> sudo nano*
[05:36] <gammie> it's blank i opend it via kate and it's blank
[05:36] <thomas___> thats your problem then
[05:37] <gammie> so how do i fix this
[05:37] <thomas___> "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf" then restart x
[05:37] <thomas___> should create a new xorg.conf file
[05:37] <gammie> how do i restart x
[05:37] <iconmefisto> nvidia-xconfig
[05:38] <dancho> hello
[05:38] <thomas___> just reboot
[05:38] <iconmefisto> if there's no xorg.conf, it's not going to work
[05:38] <dancho> problem with nvidia settings and kubuntu
[05:38] <thomas___> dancho: whats the problem?
[05:39] <dancho> i can't save config to xorg.conf and the second monitor is black, no windows manager
[05:39] <gammie> rm: cannot remove `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[05:39] <gammie> this is what i get thomas___
[05:39] <dancho> y cant move de pointer to that monitor but nothing is show
[05:40] <dancho> any idea??
[05:40] <dancho> also, there isn't xorg.conf file to save
[05:41] <thomas___> dancho: twin view?
[05:41] <dancho> correct
[05:41] <iconmefisto> gammie: you have no xorg.conf you need to create one with nvidia-xconfig (see the readme for the driver you downloaded http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/195.36.24/README/README.txt)
[05:41] <thomas___> dancho: can you see your desktop stretched to the other monitor?
[05:41] <dancho> no, only a black background
[05:42] <dancho> i can move the mouse there but only that
[05:42] <thomas___> one second
[05:42] <thomas___> gammie: "cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version" in terminal please
[05:43] <gammie> cat: /proc/driver/nvidia/version: No such file or directory
[05:43] <thomas___> gammie: then there is no nvidia drivers currently installed
[05:44] <thomas___> dancho: so you can see the mouse cursor on the second screen and thats it?
[05:44] <dancho> correct
[05:44] <dancho> only that
[05:44] <thomas___> dancho: have you tried disabling the second screen in nvidia settings and reinabling?
[05:45] <dancho> but nothing else. I can't move a windows to that screen
[05:45] <dancho> yes
[05:45] <gammie> yes there is'nt coz i just installed it because it screwed everything up when i tried to install the driver on ubuntu
[05:45] <dancho> but happend the same
[05:45] <thomas___> dancho: nvidia drivers?
[05:45] <dancho> the restricted drives from kubuntu
[05:46] <thomas___> dancho: wich version? "cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version"
[05:46] <dancho> those of the "hardware driver" application
[05:46] <thomas___> gammie: download and install the .run file?
[05:46] <dancho> NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  195.36.15  Fri Mar 12 00:29:13 PST 2010
[05:46] <dancho> GCC version:  gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5)
[05:46] <dancho> that is the output from the command
[05:47] <thomas___> dancho: ah, ive only gotten the 173 drivers to work
[05:48] <dancho> uhmm,, in order to install that version i need to download it manually?
[05:48] <thomas___> the 173 should be on the hardware drivers
[05:49] <dancho> but wasn't the recommended
[05:49] <thomas___> dancho: its not recommended but it does work
[05:49] <dancho> so, i have to uninstall this one and instal the other right?
[05:50] <thomas___> dancho: just open hardware drivers and click activate on the 173, it will do the rest
[05:51] <gammie> thomas___ would installing it create the xorg file for me
[05:52] <thomas___> gammie: yes.
[05:54] <gammie> alrite time to install it brb man
[05:56] <gammie> hey man it says here that i need to close the xserver befor i install it
[05:56] <gammie> what is the command for it
[05:56] <gammie> i uused sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop in ubuntu
[05:56] <thomas___> using kubuntu? kde?
[05:57] <gammie> yes i am using kubuntu right now
[05:57] <gammie> and the above command does'nt work for me
[05:57] <thomas___> its "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[05:57] <gammie> oh
[05:57] <gammie> silly mistake
[05:57] <gammie> brb
[05:57] <kwtm2> Hi.  I have Kubuntu 8.04 installed.  What's the easiest way to upgrade to 10.04 if I can't burn a CD?  Will "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" consider 8.04 a LTS version and jump directly to 10.04?
[05:58] <dancho> thanks thomas__ i will try that
[05:58] <thomas___> dancho: no problem
[05:58] <dancho> a question
[05:58] <dancho> other :-)
[05:58] <thomas___> dancho:  shoot?
[05:58] <iconmefisto> kwtm2: try sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:58] <dancho> what will be better running KDE... kubuntu or opensuse
[05:59] <dancho> for school i mean
[05:59] <thomas___> kde is kubuntu
[05:59] <kwtm2> dancho: I hear OpenSuSE is very polished.  Never used it.  I use Kubuntu for critical mass.
[05:59] <dancho> wht you mean with "critica mass"
[06:00] <thomas___> dancho: kubuntu is great but its got a lot of eye candy, ubuntu is good to if you need something thats faster
[06:00] <dancho> and about stability? ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:01] <thomas___> dancho: id say ubuntu its less resource hungry
[06:02] <dancho> that is right
[06:02] <dancho> my problem is that windows users are more familiarice with kde
[06:03] <thomas___> well windows 7 coppied kde so yeah lol
[06:04] <kwtm2> iconmefisto: Will do-releaser-upgrade know that I wanto to jump to 10.04 instead of 8.10?  I don't see a man page.
[06:05] <thomas___> kwtm2: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[06:07] <iconmefisto> kwtm2: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#Upgrade%20from%208.04%20LTS%20to%2010.04%20LTS
[06:10] <robert__> hey all
[06:10] <robert__> i've been having an issue with flash videos for a while
[06:10] <robert__> they work but after a few minutes it gets all choppy and it doesn't play right
[06:11] <robert__> i thought the upgrade to 10 would help
[06:11] <robert__> but no luck
[06:11] <robert__> i've been all over the internet
[06:11] <robert__> even tried different browsers
[06:11] <robert__> does anyone have anything for me?
[06:12] <thomas___> robert__: gfx card?
[06:14] <eagles0513875> also robert__ are you running 32bit kubuntu or 64bit
[06:16] <robert__> honestly i don't know
[06:16] <robert__>  i'm on a dell inspiron 600m laptop
[06:16] <iconmefisto> robert__: uname -m should tell you
[06:17] <robert__> i typed that on my terminal
[06:17] <robert__> and it says i686
[06:17] <iconmefisto> robert__: ok, so it's 32 bit
[06:17] <robert__> so can i do anything with it?
[06:17] <thomas___> robert__: "lspci" look for your graphics card
[06:18] <thomas___> should start with something like this "VGA compatible controller: "
[06:19] <robert__> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02)
[06:20] <thomas___> ah ofc a ATI card, that explains your problem ATI isnt to great with linux based os's
[06:20] <robert__> so you're saying i outta replace it eh?
[06:20] <robert__> i suspected that was the problem all along
[06:20] <robert__> old computer new software blah blah
[06:20] <gammie> hey thomas___ i installed it it asked me if i'd like it to update or create a new xconf file i selected yes it asked me to reboot and i did and now the display  turns off during start up
[06:21] <DarthFrog> thomas___: Actually, that's out of date.  ATI is now a great card to have in a Linux system.
[06:21] <gammie> and there were no errors during the installation
[06:21] <robert__> so what can i do with it?
[06:21] <gammie> i am using the live cd right now
[06:21] <thomas___> gammie: how is your monitor hooked up? HDMI, VGA, S-Video?
[06:22] <gammie> how i dont know it's a laptop how are the displays connected on a laptop
[06:22] <thomas___> ah nvm then
[06:22] <gammie> i guess
[06:23] <thomas___> robert__: try updating your drivers
[06:23] <gammie> hey lisen is there anyway for me to revert the changes and just get my sytem back
[06:23] <robert__> oh jeeze
[06:23] <robert__> last time i tried that
[06:23] <gammie> idc about the card anymore
[06:23] <robert__> all hell broke loose and i had to reeinstall
[06:23] <robert__> i need instructions on that one
[06:24] <robert__> i tried using envy
[06:24] <robert__> when i had 9.10 but i guess i picked the wrong driver
[06:24] <gammie> u there thomas___
[06:24] <thomas___> robert__: check "Hardware Drivers" for any available updates
[06:25] <robert__> this looks promising
[06:25] <thomas___> gammie: you get to login screen before it goes black?
[06:25] <robert__> its telling me i have no proprietary drivers available
[06:25] <ep> I have 64 bit kubuntu and firefox.  Both the icedtea plugin and sun-java6 plugin are installed.  Icedtea is enabled and I can't remove the plugin.  The update alternative commands i'm finding on the net aren't working.  How do I enable the sun java plugin?
[06:26] <gammie> well i get termnal window which asks me if i want to login
[06:26] <robert__> Thomas__: no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[06:26] <gammie> and i did after that i punched in sudo kdm
[06:26] <gammie> and the screen went blank again
[06:27] <thomas___> robert__: wich version of kubuntu?
[06:27] <iconmefisto> ep: uninstall the icedtea one, then restart firefox
[06:28] <gammie> well?
[06:28] <ep> iconmefisto: uninstall which Icedtea packages specifically?
[06:28] <robert__> most recent 10.04 i believe
[06:28] <thomas___> gammie: sounds like x server doesnt want to start
[06:28] <robert__> thomas__: most recent lucid lynx
[06:28] <iconmefisto> ep: sudo apt-get remove icedtea6-plugin
[06:28] <gammie> what can i do about it
[06:28] <ep> thanks
[06:29] <gammie> is'nt there anyway to just remove the friggin thing and get and get my system to work again
[06:31] <gammie> anyone?
[06:34] <SandGorgon> hi guys.. big problem - KDE 4.4.2 my system tray crashed (not the panel). I added it again after reboot and now my program-specific icons (like qbittorrent, xchat, etc.) no longer appear on the system tray. I can go into settings and see that I can still configure all those invisible icons though. hellpp
[06:38] <StefanT> good morning
[06:39] <lucio> need help on iwl3945..can see neighbors but not mine. any idea?
[06:39] <robert__> thomas__:
[06:40] <robert__> i'm using lucid
[06:40] <thomas___> robert__: um not to sure on how to install ati drives try envyg? or try downloading the drivers from www.ati.com and installing them?
[06:41] <lucio> when i enable/disable wireless..dmesg shows wlan0: link is not ready
[06:42] <lucio> am using another laptop with bcm4318 with no problem..side by side with the vaio
[06:47] <thomas___> lucio: what version?
[06:48] <lucio> 10.04
[06:48] <lucio> thomas___: kde 4.4.2 kubuntu 10.04..just finished upgradng
[06:49] <lucio> thomas___: it's an intel pro i3945 wireless
[06:51] <thomas___> lucio: take a look at this it might help, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1476019
[06:51] <lucio> thomas___: ok..will see..thnks..brb
[06:55] <lucio> thomas___: that's was something else..my laptop/bcm4318 is working like a charm..need help on the vaio with i3945
[06:56] <Gamarok__> thomas___ i called in a friend he fixed it but anyways thanks man thanks for being so patient
[06:56] <Gamarok__> and thanks for all the help
[06:56] <thomas___> Gamarok__: anytime
[06:58] <thomas___> lucio: not to sure dont have a laptop with linux on it
[06:58] <lucio> thomas___: it's ok..thanks anyway..thought you know about wireless intelpro i3945
[07:08] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[07:09] <silv3r_m00n> after upgrading 9.10 to 10.04 fonts don't look as before
[07:09] <silv3r_m00n> is that a bug or configuration problem ?
[07:09] <silv3r_m00n> how do I fix it ?
[07:09] <gottto> !fonts
[07:10] <lucio> !i3945
[07:11] <lucio> !iwl3945
[07:11] <silv3r_m00n> ya done enough with all those , in karmic I had managed to make fonts look better than windows , but after the upgrade the problem has popped up .......e.g.  http://img532.imageshack.us/i/fontfb.png/   arial font looking like that
[07:11] <silv3r_m00n> which it shudnt
[07:13] <silv3r_m00n> do you think arial looking like that is correct
[07:15] <gottto> it looks fine to me
[07:26] <silv3r_m00n> gottto: it looked like proper arial in karmic koala
[07:27] <silv3r_m00n> currently it looks kind of less in height
[07:27] <silv3r_m00n> arial is supposed to be slightly taller
[07:27] <gottto> set it bigger??
[07:51] <ariel__> hello
[08:04] <tati> talen?
[08:07] <abhifx> hi. plymouth is eating up my resources even after booting up... can someone help me plz
[08:09] <MichelleK> I downloaded the "iso" from the kubuntu site, however it's bloody wubi, not an iso file
[08:09] <MichelleK> And so is everything I try to download
[08:09] <MichelleK> Where can I download a conventional iso file of kubuntu 10.04 so that I can put it on a disk, and not install it in windows
[08:11] <iconmefisto> MichelleK: just don't try running the cd in windows. boot with it
[08:11] <MichelleK> No no no no
[08:11] <MichelleK> I mean to bur
[08:11] <MichelleK> *burn
[08:11] <MichelleK> To a disk
[08:11] <FloodBotK3> MichelleK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:11] <iconmefisto> MichelleK: wubi is on all iso's. you can boot from the cd, or run it in windows to use wubi
[08:13] <MichelleK> Ok, well do I have to make an iso out of the files then?
[08:14] <bazhang> MichelleK, its already an iso
[08:14] <MichelleK> No, it isn't. It is a rar with many, many folders
[08:14] <bazhang> then you got the wrong thing. did you try and unpack the iso?
[08:14] <iconmefisto> MichelleK: what did you download? do you have a link for us?
[08:14] <rork> tati: if you want to ask which languages are used here it's english, dutch is supported in #ubuntu-nl (in case you're not dutch "talen?" means "langagues?")
[08:15] <MichelleK> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/lucid/desktop/kubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[08:15] <bazhang> download the iso from ubuntu.com burn to cd, boot from cd (not windows), install.
[08:16] <MichelleK> It's funny how some people get the wrong idea.
[08:16]  * starslights great's the chan
[08:16] <bazhang> or kubuntu.org in this case
[08:16] <bazhang> don't boot windows. boot from the cd.
[08:17] <bazhang> if you see an option for wubi then you are in windows.
[08:17] <MichelleK> I did not say I was going to do that
[08:17] <MichelleK> I am not booting off it
[08:17] <MichelleK> I am looking at the rar I downloaded
[08:17] <MichelleK> And realised it is not an iso
[08:17] <MichelleK> So that is what I was asking
[08:17] <bazhang> there is no rar.
[08:17] <MichelleK> Well, that is what ended up being downloaded
[08:17] <MichelleK> Even when it said it was a link to an ispo
[08:18] <MichelleK> So please don't misinterpret what I'm saying
[08:18] <bazhang> then windows is unpacking it upon download
[08:18] <rork> MichelleK: how big is the file you downloaded?
[08:18] <MichelleK> 679MB
[08:18] <SandGorgon> what do you guys use for dropbox in KDE 4.4.2 ?
[08:20] <malik_> hello
[08:20] <rork> hi
[08:21] <iconmefisto> SandGorgon: what do you mean? I use dropbox
[08:21] <malik_> I am fairly new to linux, and I was wondering what I must do to maintain the system, such as cleaning it up a bit. Defrag and such
[08:21] <iconmefisto> malik_: defrag is not necessary
[08:22] <SandGorgon> iconmefisto, I mean how do u set up Dolphin to sync a folder to dropbox ? or do I need a separate plasmoid or something..
[08:22] <rork> malik_: regularly install the latest updates trough apt (or any of it's frontends)
[08:22] <abhifx> hi. plymouth is eating up my resources even after booting up... can someone help me plz
[08:23] <iconmefisto> SandGorgon: it just works in dolphin when installed. you don't need the .deb to install dropbox (that will install nautilus and all the gnome libs it needs)
[08:23] <iconmefisto> SandGorgon: hang on, I'll just find a link for you
[08:24] <malik_> kk
[08:24] <malik_> i already do update my apps and such so cool
[08:25] <SandGorgon> iconmefisto, the AMD64 deb that I got from dropbox's website wanted to install the whole lot of gnome libs
[08:25] <iconmefisto> SandGorgon: wget -O dropbox.tar.gz http://www.getdropbox.com/download?plat=lnx.x86_64
[08:26] <iconmefisto> SandGorgon: do that command ^^
[08:26] <mrabti> hello every one
[08:26] <malik_> is dropbox free?
[08:26] <malik_> hello
[08:27] <SandGorgon> malik_, 2gb is free
[08:27] <mrabti> Where can I locat the Icone that are used in the notification area on ubuntu ?
[08:27] <iconmefisto> SandGorgon: once you've got it installed and running it works just like in gnome, except you don't get the icon overlays and right-click menus that gnome/nautilus has. but other than that, everything works fine
[08:27] <mrabti> is there a directory where they are stored ?
[08:28] <SandGorgon> iconmefisto, quick question - when started up does it have a status icon or something. How does one configure it ?
[08:28] <mrabti> any suggestiin please ?
[08:28] <malik_> 2gb is huge
[08:29] <gottto> mrabti: /usr/share/icons   might be the place
[08:29] <mrabti> okkey thx
[08:29] <mrabti> I'll check it
[08:29] <iconmefisto> SandGorgon: there is a systray icon. also, first time you run it, it asks for username/password of your dropbox accout
[08:29] <Koobuntoo> Hello! If I run the "compiz -replace" command, then my kubuntu panels aren't transparent anymore. Someone knows the solution?
[08:29] <SandGorgon> iconmefisto, gotcha.. cool
[08:33] <mrabti> noo didnt find the iconess that I wase looking
[08:33] <mrabti> I need to find the icone Banshee
[08:33] <mrabti> that is used in the notification area
[08:33] <mrabti> It's not on the Path that you gave me ?
[08:37] <iconmefisto> SandGorgon: sorry, got disconnected. let me know if you have any problems getting dropbox started
[08:37] <SandGorgon> iconmefisto, got it running.. thanks!
[08:38] <ranjodh> my kubuntu is corruupting address of some of the files
[08:38] <SandGorgon> anybody else here also using plasma-widget-networkmanagement ? looks like there has been no bug fixes in it for a while now
[08:38] <iconmefisto> SandGorgon: you might want to add something in .kde/Autostart to start dropbox on login
[08:38] <ranjodh> so i can't use them in windows
[08:38] <ranjodh> any sugg?
[08:39] <SandGorgon> iconmefisto, I considered that.. I already have a lot of services (DB, nginx, etc.) starting up ... so I'll let this be
[08:41] <bawww> don't mean to flame, but this is a pretty good article: "Goodbye, (K)ubuntu. Hi, Fedora!" http://writerofthings.blogspot.com/2010/05/goodbye-kubuntu-hi-fedora.html
[08:49] <nagiii> how do i install wine?
[08:49] <iconmefisto> nagiii: sudo apt-get install wine
[08:50] <nagiii> and do i have to do anything after it or is it installed then?
[08:51] <iconmefisto> nagiii: nothing to do after that, except try to install windows programs
[08:52] <nagiii> ok...can i mount .iso ?
[08:53] <iconmefisto> !iso
[08:54] <nagiii> ok thanks
[09:00] <thanda> How to enable 3d acceleration in kubuntu in Virtualbox
[09:01] <iconmefisto> thanda: #vbox might have answers
[09:02] <thanda> thankyou.
[09:03] <thanda> iconmefisto: Do you know where can I find them
[09:04] <iconmefisto> thanda: type: /join #vbox
[09:05] <Reign1> guys, does any of you installed crystal project icons?
[09:14] <thomasfuston> Mornin', could someone tell me if somthing like Dockbarx avail for KDE ?
[09:15] <rork> thomasfuston: what is Dockbarx supposed to do?
[09:17] <thomasfuston> well dockbarx is for gnome is an panel applet, try to imitade the windows 7 stuff, here is a screenshot dockbarx is in the lower left
[09:17] <thomasfuston> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/58731/bildschirmfoto_e6tf1x.png
[09:20] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: so... taskbar buttons with no text? is there anything else it does?
[09:21] <thomasfuston> iconmefisto, well at least dockbarx is  "icon only taskbar" yah
[09:21] <MichelleK> I have downloaded kubuntu 10.04 from kubuntu.org twice from 2 locations, and a torrent file ".iso", yet nothing I download looks like a conventional iso. http://imagebin.ca/view/vtpoepy.html This is what it looks like
[09:21] <MichelleK> How the hell can I make this a bootable disc?
[09:21] <iconmefisto> MichelleK: burn it to dis
[09:22] <iconmefisto> disc
[09:22] <MichelleK> I did
[09:22] <MichelleK> I burnt all these files to a cd, and it did not boot
[09:22] <iconmefisto> MichelleK: no, not the files. burn the iso to disc. you don't need to open the iso
[09:23] <MichelleK> mate, you are not understanding. There is no damn ISO. I wanted to download the ISO, but the rar is not an iso but a rar file
[09:24] <rork> MichelleK: The filename is ubuntu-10.04-beta1-desktop-amd64.iso it is an ISO which is opened by WinRAR by default
[09:24] <iconmefisto> MichelleK: you are confused. there is no rar. you are opening the iso with winrar, but it is an iso
[09:24] <iconmefisto> MichelleK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Windows
[09:26] <bawww> does anyone know if choqok works on Windows?
[09:27] <Tm_T> bawww: does, if someone builds it
[09:27] <bawww> no port?
[09:28] <Tm_T> bawww: it shouldn't need to be ported, just simply packaged
[09:28] <Tm_T> bawww: see http://windows.kde.org/
[09:29] <bawww> Tm_T: nice
[09:30] <Tm_T> bawww: also #kde-windows is good place to ask
[09:49] <ubuntu> can anybody direct me to a real clear example of how to use the partitioner on Kubuntu 10.04 LTS the stuff I'm getting ahold of is not clear
[09:53] <thomasfuston> I Am using Kubuntu 10.04 LTS, and got a problem installing mozilla-gnash-plugin, getting all the time an error "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[09:55] <calumayoo> hello had anyone here experienced to get only a terminal like screen after trying 10.04 without installing?
[09:56] <iconmefisto> !info mozilla-gnash-plugin
[09:56] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: where did that package come from? it's not in repos
[09:57] <thomasfuston> iconmefisto, hmm ok, it is in here
[09:57] <iconmefisto> !info mozilla-plugin-gnash
[09:57] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: is that the one you're trying to install?
[09:57] <thomasfuston> iso it is avail ?
[09:58] <thomasfuston> yah
[09:58] <thomasfuston> iconmefisto: it is the one i tried to instal
[10:04] <Gamarok__> hello people
[10:05] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: try sudo apt-get -f install
[10:05] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: then try installing it again and see if you still get the error
[10:06] <RaGNORAK> eagles0513875
[10:06] <RaGNORAK> is the install over?
[10:07] <kalg> Hi, I installed openssh. I don't need it to start always.. but can't find a way to do it :(
[10:07] <thomasfuston> iconmefisto: thx for the advice, but still the same error
[10:07] <Freyr> how can i stop for staring the printer applet every time i start my kubuntu box. i dont need that applet to run
[10:08] <kalg> I tried rcconf, update-rc.d sysv-rc-conf. but none works
[10:08] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get -f install
[10:11] <eagles0513875> RaGNORAK: ya i managed in a rather unconventional way
[10:11] <thomasfuston> iconmefisto: thx again, but nothing happend stilll the same error,
[10:14] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: is your disk full perhaps? df -h /
[10:14] <thomasfuston> iconmefisto 100% no, clean fresh kde install, i just switched from gnome over
[10:15] <thomasfuston> i mean kubuntu 10.04 since few ours installed still alot free diskspace
[10:16] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: sudo apt-get clean (then try installing again)
[10:18] <thomasfuston> iconmefisto: tried that already, clean done nothing, and still the error to bad,
[10:18] <eagles0513875> RaGNORAK: im here
[10:23] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/mozilla-gnash*  do you get any files listed?
[10:24] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: sorry, that should be ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/mozilla-plugin-gnash*
[10:25] <thomasfuston> iconmefisto: i getting 6 files listed
[10:26] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: try deleting those (or renaming, in case you want to restore them) then try installing
[10:26] <thomasfuston> iconmefisto: http://pastebin.com/Uria8f5g
[10:27] <thomasfuston> all of them ?
[10:28] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: yeah, but I strongly recommend keeping them somewhere else or renaming them. I'm not sure if deleting them will cause more problems, so it's a good to be able to reverse if you need to
[10:32] <thomasfuston> iconmefisto: strange it worked, i renamed then wiht following .backup, so they still exist, and now install was able to do without error
[10:32] <thomasfuston> seems to work, ths alot iconmefisto !
[10:32] <iconmefisto> thomasfuston: ok, great! :)
[10:52] <Reign1> guys, how to make my terminal/console font as bitmap permanent?
[11:07] <killy> hi, is there a script to remove all pakets that came with "kubuntu-netbook"
[11:23] <buckfast> Is it ok if I remove network-manager?
[11:26] <buckfast> Removing network-manager also wants to remove a lot of other packages
[11:26] <buckfast> dmraid{u} doc-base{u} docbook-xml{u} faad{u} ffmpeg{u} to name a few
[11:26] <buckfast> 61 packages in total
[11:41] <david_> what do you do when you have the latest kubuntu and realtek drivers and no sound
[11:41] <david_> I've tried everything
[11:42] <david_> it's a vaio vpceb11fm
[11:53] <obert> foo
[11:58] <rork> obert: bar
[11:58] <obert> ty
[12:01] <obert> synaptic isnt in kubuntu by default?
[12:03] <jussi> obert: no, we have kpackagekit
[12:03] <obert> jussi:  and it is asking to me to use synaptic in order to install mysql
[12:04] <jussi> obert: what is?
[12:04] <obert> kpackagekit asking for
[12:06] <obert> There are broken dependecies on your system. Please use an advanced package manage e.g. Synaptic or aptitude to resolve this situation.
[12:08] <Taravel> hi; I'm trying to listen to music from a cd but Amarock can't read the CD...is there a way to listen the CDA without rip the CD ? I installed the media pack for Kubuntu and I added the medibuntu rep
[12:09] <obert> 42
[12:12] <jussi> obert: are you familiar with the terminal at all?
[12:12] <obert> so-so.
[12:12] <jussi> obert: ok, please open the terminal and type: sudo apt-get install -f
[12:13] <obert> sudo apt-get -f install
[12:13] <jussi> same thing :)
[12:14] <obert> eh ok heh just found same thing in web
[12:14] <obert> youare too fast:P
[12:15] <obert> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)  grrr
[12:16] <iconmefisto> another one? obert, what package are you installing?
[12:16] <jussi> obert: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:17] <jussi> obert: oh, and make sure kpackagekit is closed
[12:19] <obert> no way. tryin to setup all os. mysql,apache..  this one looks weird mysql-cluster-client-5.1
[12:20] <obert> why cluster too
[12:20] <obert> lunch tho.thanks for now (mmm)
[12:38] <MarvinTheMarv> Hello !
[12:38] <MarvinTheMarv> Someone here ?
[12:38] <MarvinTheMarv> :)
[12:39] <PolitikerNEU_> yeah
[12:40] <ForgeAus> who knows how to use wget properly?
[12:40] <MarvinTheMarv> well there was no one answering in the support forum, so iu came here
[12:41] <ForgeAus> I used  wget -t inf -c <file to get> -o <localname>
[12:41] <obert> i'll retry another day to use linux :)
[12:41] <ForgeAus> I used  wget -t inf -c <file to get> -o <localname> to get a file but it just seems to hang....
[12:42] <Reign1> how to install bitmap fonts and make them permanent for terminal/console?
[12:46] <obert> as always it's a pity,though.
[12:49] <obert> thanks for now people
[12:52] <rasco79> helo all
[12:52] <ForgeAus> hey rasco
[12:52] <rasco79> im new here
[12:54] <killpilot> hi
[12:54] <rasco79> hi...
[12:54] <tinlys> hohoh
[12:55] <killpilot> wowww , there are many people here O_o 295 users .... ^^
[12:55] <ForgeAus> hehe most of them are idle tho
[12:55] <rasco79> mmm... what u all opinion about laptop aspire i3 processor?
[12:56] <ForgeAus> to be honest I have no idea
[12:56] <rasco79> that laptop can be overclock?
[12:56] <killpilot> i connect on this chan because a i m testing the last live ubuntu cd
[12:56] <rasco79> hohoho
[12:56] <ForgeAus> I want an i7 desktop before I go looking at notebooks... or tablets, etc..
[12:56] <killpilot> and she is good ^^
[12:57] <rasco79> ic..
[12:57] <ForgeAus> as for overclocking why? I don't recommend it, it just fries your CPU
[12:57] <ForgeAus> if you want it to last, run it at standard clockspeed
[12:57] <rasco79> ic..
[12:57] <tinlys> what?
[12:58] <killpilot> ... i disconnect byby all, have a good day
[12:58] <rasco79> its that laptop good enuf to play games like pes2010?
[13:00] <tinlys> i`have laptoop HP PAVILION dv5
[13:01] <OxDeadC0de> does anyone here know icecast? Can I send a stream to it somehow like pacat > lame > send_to_icecast ?
[13:03] <ForgeAus> I don't know the game pes2010 so I can't say
[13:03] <tinlys> whit ice laptop\
[13:07] <rasco79> who here is a girl...?
[13:07] <rasco79> hohoho
[13:08] <bazhang> rasco79, do you have a kubuntu support question?
[13:11] <rasco79_> lox
[13:12] <rasco79> hohoho
[13:12] <Zorael> Do any KDE webcam applications exist? Like Cheese?
[13:12] <rasco79> dun know..
[13:13] <ForgeAus> !aria2
[13:15] <ForgeAus> !info aria2c
[13:15] <ForgeAus> !info metalink
[13:17] <rasco79_> wew
[13:18] <rasco79> hoho
[13:25] <mfraz74> for some reason I'm unable to login if i use the nvidia or nouveau drivers
[13:26] <mfraz74> running kubuntu 10.04
[13:27] <eagles0513875> hey guys i need some help troubleshooting some audio issues up until about 2 hrs ago the audio was working then it just died on me tried rebooting and nothing restarting pulse audio and still no sound
[13:27] <eagles0513875> im on lucid 64bit
[13:33] <Peace-> eagles0513875: remove pulse
[13:33] <Peace-> .
[13:33] <eagles0513875> Peace-: can i cuz i know gnome must have it
[13:33] <eagles0513875> and what woudl replace it
[13:33] <eagles0513875> if anything
[13:33] <Reign1> guys, dont get it, whats the problem? http://pastebin.com/5MJbJPM1
[13:41] <ToxinPowe> when we have 4.4.3 on lucid?
[13:48] <munny> hi all!
[13:50] <eagles0513875> !grub2
[13:50] <munny_> anyone has problem with jackd in kubuntu lucid?
[14:01] <gumpert345> hi, I am using 10.04 my PC is behaving like crazy, I experienced this problem on 2 PCs with two different mice, the PC acts like I am turning the mousewheel all the time, which makes my PC unusable, it switches between folders, programs options and so on. The thing is: I dont even touch the mouse. . . what can I do?
[14:01] <rmeoli> !list
[14:02] <eagles0513875> rmeoli: what list do you want the list of channels on freenode
[14:02] <rmeoli> ciao a tutti
[14:03] <rmeoli> yes
[14:05] <eagles0513875> !it | rmeoli
[14:08] <eagles0513875> !audio
[14:13] <Katalizer> des français en ligne?
[14:13] <Katalizer> pour un ptit coup de main rapide?
[14:13] <eagles0513875> !fr | Katalizer
[14:13] <roberto__> hey - how can I configure konversation not to show all the purple messages ?
[14:13] <penguin> Do you speak english?
[14:14] <eagles0513875> penguin: i do
[14:14] <eagles0513875> roberto__: purple messages???
[14:14] <eagles0513875> penguin: if you have a question just ask yoru question
[14:14] <roberto__> people logging in and quitting, timing out .. stuff like that
[14:15] <eagles0513875> roberto__: not sure but it has to be under the config somewhere in it you might wanna try ask in kde they could help you more then i
[14:15] <roberto__> eagles0513875: thanks, Ill try
[14:15] <eagles0513875> roberto__: no problem
[14:20] <thomasfuston> Aloha, is it usual that Kopete not able to connect to msn messanger network ?
[14:21] <eagles0513875> thomasfuston: i am seeing that it takes some time before it connects
[14:22] <werwolfanet> how i can reduce a RAM consumtion with KDE workaround?
[14:22] <jota_> Hi, I cant get bluetooth to work
[14:23] <thomasfuston> eagles0513875: it keeps telling me "cant connect to WLM service ... etc"
[14:28] <werwolfanet> maybe you know some tricks, that help in reducing RAM consumption
[14:30] <eagles0513875> thomasfuston: delete the account and recreate it
[14:30] <eagles0513875> werwolfanet: no i dont
[14:31] <werwolfanet> thank you, anyway
[14:32] <eagles0513875> werwolfanet: if you wait a while channel might become more active
[14:32] <eagles0513875> and someone who can help you better then i will show up
[14:33] <eagles0513875> hey JontheEchidna
[14:35] <thomasfuston> eagles0513875: which account? my identiy account in kopete ? or the whole account in msn ?
[14:35] <eagles0513875> thomasfuston: the msn account on kopete delete it and recreate it
[14:38] <thomasfuston> no results still not able to connenct, hmm i dont see the point why, evil !
[14:39] <eagles0513875> thomasfuston: it could be their servers
[14:39] <thomasfuston> eagles0513875: hmm ok, so they block kopete
[14:39] <thomasfuston> even more evil
[14:40] <eagles0513875> i connect but it takes quite some time
[14:40] <eagles0513875> thomasfuston: i would ask in kde about it it coudl be also a bug with kopete
[14:40] <eagles0513875> thomasfuston: have you tried to see if you can connect with pidgin or something
[14:40] <thomasfuston> oki thx for your help so far
[14:40] <eagles0513875> thomasfuston: try pidgin and see if it connects with msn in that client if it does its a bug with kopete
[14:41] <maco> !info kamoso | Zorael
[14:41] <Zorael> maco: I'll try that, thanks.
[14:42] <maco> Zorael: ive never tried it before, i just started going through the list of packages related to webcams til i found a kde one
[14:42] <jota_> Can't start bluetooth server
[14:43] <eagles0513875> hey guys anyone have any idea why when i told ubiquity to format my 2tb drive as ext4 when i do an fdisk -l its showing up as a gpt
[14:43] <eagles0513875> file system
[14:44] <stirr> hello all
[14:46] <stirr> is there a manual or how-to for post-upgrade on kubuntu 10.04?
[14:46] <eagles0513875> !upgrade | stirr
[14:46] <eagles0513875> stirr: see last link
[14:47] <speedvin> hello
[14:47] <bazhang> post-upgrade? like the basics to install after installation is complete?
[14:47] <stirr> yes, i did the upgrade, but i am experiencing some problems
[14:47] <speedvin> does someone tried to build wine using gcc-snapshot?
[14:47] <bazhang> such as?
[14:48] <stirr> everything appears to be as expected but after 10" after login the desktop freezes
[14:48] <stirr> freezes.. responds too slow
[14:48] <user__> .
[14:48] <stirr> i ran blindly kwin --replace and got rid of compiz
[14:49] <stirr> but apart of compiz even flash playback freezes for a minute or two the system
[14:49] <user__> hi
[14:50] <eagles0513875> bazhang: how can i run an fsck check on a 2tb partition that is a gpt file system
[14:50] <eagles0513875> !hi | user__
[14:51] <user__> any bady gad the drive for Epson SX100 plz
[14:51] <bazhang> eagles0513875, what is a gpt file system
[14:51] <bazhang> !printing
[14:51] <bazhang> user__, check the linuxprinting.org database
[14:52] <eagles0513875> bazhang: it seems to be used more on windows to see larger drives but for some reason i told ubiquity to format my drive as ext4 but when i do an fdisk -l showing it as a gpt partition
[14:52] <user__> thakns you
[14:52] <eagles0513875> bazhang: gpt = guid partition table
[14:54] <eagles0513875> i am starting to think a serious issue with gpt file system is the cause of alot of issues im having like super serious system hangs to where i cant recover
[14:54] <eagles0513875> with out a reset
[14:54] <eagles0513875> as well as programs crashign left right and center
[14:56] <stirr> eagles0513875: what makes you think the FS is causing the problems?
[14:57] <eagles0513875> stirr: for one i found a nasty bug pre release of lucid
[14:57] <eagles0513875> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/538100
[14:58] <eagles0513875> stirr: firstly when i installed i told it to use ext4 and it changed it to a gpt filesystem
[14:58] <eagles0513875> thougth ext4 was designed to handle drivers larger then 1tb which if its switchign to gpt then something is wrong
[14:59] <eagles0513875> not to mention stirr installation and ubiquity is seriously buggy
[14:59] <stirr> did you try other kernels?
[15:00] <eagles0513875> the default that lucid comes with same issues
[15:00] <eagles0513875> even after upgrading same issues
[15:00] <eagles0513875> would eb nice to talk to a dev and maybe help the dev team iron some issues out
[15:01] <stirr> is it an exotic server (ibm/dell etc?)
[15:01] <stirr> i did have problems with x3850-m2
[15:01] <stirr> any debian like os failed to work
[15:01] <eagles0513875> custom built deskto stirr
[15:01] <stirr> desktop ok
[15:02] <eagles0513875> ubuntu server lucid works fine on my ibm xserver
[15:02] <stirr> my server was a pain to make it work (was only allowed to use debian but it was the worst experience ever to make it work)
[15:03] <eagles0513875> stirr: join me in kubuntu-offtopic
[15:10] <zus> how can i fix akonadi server error log found and  previous akonadi server error log found?,
[15:14] <Barridus> !netbook
[15:39] <videorechner> hi, I run 10.04 on a 1920x1080 screen and kubuntu detects that (nvidia driver and in the settings) but the screen behaves like it is 640x480 and everything is stretched (this "i" is 1 cm  for example
[15:39] <videorechner> ) can I somehow reset this?
[15:40] <jpedroza> Good morning all. I am running KNR 10.04 on a little netbook for my daughter. She really loves it, but when I installed (using apt-get install kdegames) the games group, it lost all the launcher apps on the main screen. Anyone know how to add them back in?
[15:40] <jpedroza> videorechner: Are you using the default nvidia driver, or the proprietary driver?
[15:41] <videorechner> nvidia blob
[15:41] <jpedroza> videorechner: Ok, are you actually getting the full resolution, just the characters on the screen are too big?
[15:43] <jpedroza> videorechner: If so, go into the System Settings, and in apperance I think it is, there is a setting to force fonts to 96dpi. Click that box and all should be well.
[15:44] <YearningForKDE3> Is anyone from the KDE3 team present?
[15:44] <videorechner> jped Ill try that thanks
[15:44] <jpedroza> :-D Never hurts to help
[15:48] <jpedroza> Is there another room for the netbook remix?
[15:56] <darkdelusions> Humm anyone have any clue why knetworkmanager would not load after update to to KDE SC 4.4.3
[15:56] <darkdelusions> I had to get sneaky with the command line to get any kinda connection going
[15:57] <CQ> hello, how can I get kubuntu to start in as console mode and then manually start X ? do I just need to edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and then run kdm manually after login?
[15:57] <jpedroza> CQ: You need to change your boot lever from 5 to 3.
[15:58] <jpedroza> CQ: Sorry level
[15:59] <DarthFrog> jpedroza: That information is wrong.  It applies only to RedHat,  not to Debian based systems, such as Ubuntu.
[15:59] <CQ> jpedroza: and then just sudo init 5 after logging in? I basically need to login (it's a server) and mount a few encrypted filesystems and then stadt kdm normally...
[16:00] <jpedroza> CQ: Aparently I am incorrect on Kubuntu
[16:00] <CQ> DarthFrog: then what's teh right info?
[16:00] <DarthFrog> Runlevel 5 (graphical login) in RedHat is runlevel 2 in Debian/Ubuntu.
[16:01] <DarthFrog> CQ: do you wan to make this permanent?  Or is it a one-off?
[16:01] <darkdelusions> odd knetwork is running kinda it has a pid but not showing up in the system tray
[16:01] <CQ> no, this is permanent for my server at home
[16:01] <jpedroza> CQ: It looks like on Debian based systems (like kubuntu) you need to remove KDM from default-display-manager
[16:01] <darkdelusions> killed it and restarted it and nothing
[16:01] <CQ> jpedroza: look at my first message, that's what I thought initially...
[16:02] <jpedroza> CQ: Something like "sudo update-rd.d -f kdm remove" ought to do the trick then
[16:02] <DarthFrog> CQ: Well, at the GRUB boot screen, you could choose single mode.
[16:02] <jpedroza> CQ: Sorry, I have been in a  RedHad frame of mind for the last week.
[16:02] <CQ> DarthFrog: is that a different init level then?
[16:02] <DarthFrog> CQ: That'll put you in runlevel 1.  It'll ask for the root password.
[16:04] <CQ> DarthFrog: hm, I think I have no root password, I just have the user with full SUDO access ... how do you get from single to full mode then?
[16:05] <gumpert345> hi, I am using 10.04 my PC is behaving like crazy, I experienced this problem on 2 PCs with two different mice, the PC acts like I am turning the mousewheel all the time, which makes my PC unusable, it switches between folders, programs options and so on. The thing is: I dont even touch the mouse. . . what can I do?
[16:05] <CQ> DarthFrog: ok thanks guess I have to enable the root account then...
[16:06] <CQ> how do I get to normal boot then? just exit single mode, or init <something> or ... ?
[16:06] <DarthFrog> CQ: CTL-D once you're done will resume normal startup.
[16:06] <FinnArild> How do I get some sense into the bootloader? I edited /etc/default/grub, did update-grub and grub-install /dev/sda ... now it only boots up linux without letting me select
[16:07] <gumpert345> FinnArild press shift
[16:07] <FinnArild> Isn't there a gui tool to fix the bootloader? There used to be ...
[16:07] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: in /etc/default/grub can't you edit the time-out parameter?
[16:07] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: yes - set to 10
[16:07] <FinnArild> hang on, I'll find me a pastebin
[16:08] <vbgunz_> I have a scanner that should be compatible with kubuntu. but what package or app do I need to start scanning?
[16:08] <FinnArild> ta-da: http://pastebin.com/sfRm8i3c
[16:08] <vbgunz_> !scan
[16:08] <maco> vbgunz_: i havent found a good kde scanner app, unfortunately. i use simple-scan (the app that ubuntu includes)
[16:09] <vbgunz_> maco: im on kubuntu, I don't see simple scanner, gonna check what ubottu said
[16:09] <DarthFrog> vbgunz_: Xsane is very good.
[16:09] <maco> kooka? i need to try this. i tried skanlite before. ugh.
[16:09] <maco> xsane has a horrible interface though
[16:09] <darkdelusions> Has anyone else had updated to 4.4.3 and had issues with knetworkmanager?
[16:09] <maco> simple-scan is really...erm...simple
[16:09] <maco> its not installed by default on kubuntu, just on ubuntu
[16:09] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: ... actually pressing esc got me into the menu - but I wish it was as default ...
[16:10] <DarthFrog> maco: you might not like the Xsane interface (personally, I don't have a problem with it) but you have admit, it's very full featured.
[16:10] <maco> DarthFrog: but its not friendly to new users
[16:10] <maco> oh i see. kooka doesnt exist in lucid
[16:11] <DarthFrog> maco: Well, I'm not a new user. :-)
[16:11] <maco> oh wow. or jaunty. or karmic.
[16:11] <maco> DarthFrog: i think it took me 2 years before i discovered xsane could do multi-page scans
[16:11] <DarthFrog> maco: You could always use xscanimage.
[16:12] <maco> but simple-scan works well ;-)
[16:12] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: but basically, I've fried my old bootup that let me select Vista and such. How to get it back?
[16:13] <FinnArild> I now actually need to run Vista, since my wife won't use Linux anymore as media pc platform. Too much issues. Can't say I blame her ...
[16:13] <lonely> 有人在怎么  ？
[16:14] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: This is what is in my /etc/default/grub: GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[16:14] <Guest46468> ？
[16:14] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: I wonder if the "0" is disabling?
[16:14] <maco> !cn | Guest46468
[16:14] <Guest46468> ?
[16:14] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: could be ...
[16:14] <Walzmyn> !ja | Guest46468
[16:14] <jwc44> hi
[16:14] <maco> vbgunz_: by the way, the default image viewer program, gwenview? it has scanning
[16:15] <Guest46468> hellow
[16:15]  * FinnArild grabs shoe-shine for the channelmod
[16:15] <jwc44> Lucid has been using Kubuntu 10.04
[16:15] <Guest46468> can you speak english ?
[16:15] <maco> Guest46468: yes
[16:15] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: Did you check the entries in /boot/grub/grub.cfg to ensure that update-grub2 is actuall picking up Vista?
[16:15] <Guest46468> and chinese ?
[16:15] <maco> Guest46468: only english allowed in this channel
[16:15] <vbgunz_> hmm, I installed my printer/scanner drivers. the scanner works but after installing xsane and libsane-extras, it is not picking the scanner up though printing works fine
[16:15] <davis__> hello
[16:15] <maco> Guest46468: for chinese #ubuntu-cn
[16:15] <vbgunz_> the scanner doesn't work. sorry
[16:15] <vbgunz_> the printer does, not the scanner
[16:16] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: well - I wouldn't recognize it if I saw it either ... prey tell :)
[16:16] <DarthFrog> vbgunz_: From the command line, run "scanimage -L"
[16:16] <zus> in setting up kmail- what is gmails incoming mail server? pop.gmail.com?
[16:16] <jwc44> NVIDIA 8600GTS graphics are using the kid
[16:16] <Guest46468> 谁会说中文阿
[16:16] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: actually ...
[16:16] <maco> zus: believe so. or imap.gmail.com
[16:16] <davis__> i am finding a camera not displaying in the "Device notifer" on the toolbar, the device does not show on /media or /mnt
[16:16] <jwc44> At the boot screen logo comes broken
[16:16] <maco> Guest46468: english only
[16:17] <Guest46468> my english is not well
[16:17] <YearningForKDE3> !cn >Guest46468
[16:17] <Guest46468> what can i do
[16:17] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: there is a menuentry /etc/grub.d/30_os_prober, that does vista, but I can't see that in the boot now. Is this a grub/grub2 issue maybe?
[16:17] <jwc44> 10.04 Kubuntu are using the logo on the boot screen comes broken
[16:17] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: did I have grub2 before and now I've overwritten it with plain old grub?
[16:17] <maco> Guest46468: go to #ubuntu-cn
[16:17] <jwc44> how to?
[16:17] <maco> Guest46468: in #ubuntu-cn speak chinese
[16:18] <davis__> dmesg shows http://pastebin.org/210590
[16:18] <Guest46468> thanks
[16:18] <maco> jwc44: nvidia proprietary drivers only support 16 colours on the bootsplash. if you use nouveau (the open source drivers) you get a pretty boot
[16:18] <davis__> i was using ubuntu 8.10 for two years and the same camera automounted
[16:19] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: Doubt it.  I think you've just managed to get the GRUB screen cloaked. :-)
[16:19] <maco> davis__: stuff doesnt mount til you click it in the device notifier, so not showing in /media makes sense. does somethng new appear in /dev ?
[16:19] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: Esp. since you say that pressing Esc brings it up.
[16:19] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: but pressing escape I now see the grub screen, but can't see vista ....
[16:20] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: Run "update-grub2" to refresh the entries.
[16:20] <davis__> maco: what should i look for in /dev ?
[16:20] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: I'm happy pressing escape as long as I can get the vista boot entry back, and default load that (to make my wife happy, so I can get back to her .... charms ...)
[16:20] <maco> davis__:   :-/ looks like the kernel is no longer seeing it as usb mass storage. any chance you changed a setting on it regarding how it syncs? i know my camera has a stting for usb mass storage or some other thing
[16:20] <maco> davis__: a new /dev/sd*
[16:20] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: Oops, "sudo update-grub2". :-)
[16:20] <vbgunz_> im gonna try rebooting
[16:20] <maco> davis__:  but im guessiing no because dmesg would say if it was assigning it to be a new disk
[16:21] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: no such command. There's update-grub, though
[16:21] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: That's the one.
[16:22] <lonely_> what are you from ?
[16:22] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: hm - so apparently I have grub and not grub2
[16:22] <zus> maco,  thanks
[16:22] <davis__> maco: davis@davis-laptop:~$ ls /dev | grep sd
[16:22] <davis__> sda
[16:22] <davis__> sda1
[16:22] <davis__> sda2
[16:22] <davis__> sda5
[16:22] <davis__> sdb
[16:22] <FloodBotK2> davis__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:23] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: No, you have grub2.
[16:23] <maco> davis__: is it sdb maybe? or was that already there?
[16:23] <maco> davis__: you can try mounting sdb
[16:23] <maco> and see if thats it
[16:24] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: sure? It creates a menu.lst and everything, which corresponds with what I'm seeing at boot time - and that is good old grub, afaik?
[16:24] <DarthFrog> maco: You can't mount /dev/sdb.  You have to mount a partition, not a drive.
[16:24] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: Which version of Kubuntu are you running?
[16:25] <davis__> maco: i think it is sdb , as df shows that that my system is installed on /dev/sda1  how do i  make it appear on the device notifer
[16:25] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: 10.04
[16:26] <maco> DarthFrog: yes you can
[16:26] <davis__> maco:  i am looking in "system settings"
[16:26] <maco> DarthFrog: there is *nothing* that says you cant format a full drive without partitions
[16:26] <FinnArild> I can't believe it's not a gui interface to the bootloader
[16:26] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: and you have a /boot/grub/menu.lst file and not grub.cfg???
[16:26] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: yes
[16:26] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: but that was after I started messing with it, mind you :)
[16:26] <maco> davis__: im guessing the lack of a partition is why the device notifier doesnt list it. you can mount it and get your stuff off, then partition and format it and try again, maybe?
[16:27]  * FinnArild installs grub2
[16:27] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: ok - so now I apt-got grub2
[16:27] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: Bizarre!  Well, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install grub2".
[16:27] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: I probably removed it by apt-get grub
[16:27] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: stupid me
[16:28] <FinnArild> ha
[16:28] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: works much better now, I thnk
[16:28] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: Good stuff.
[16:28] <BluesKaj> FinnArild, then do sudo update-grub
[16:29] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: ok ... done stuff, now let's try and reboot ...
[16:30] <davis__> maco: /dev/sdb did not mount, i noticed when i switched the camer off, /dev/sdb was still there, so i don't think that is the camera
[16:30] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: great, now I just need to make it start vista as default (to get my wife talking to me again)
[16:30] <maco> davis__: boo. then i think youve found a bug in umm... hrmph. udev, maybe?
[16:31] <FinnArild> well, it's not so much the talking ...
[16:31] <DarthFrog> FinnArild: Set your default boot entry in /etc/default/grub.  Remember to start counting from zero. :-)  Then run "sudo update-grub" again.
[16:31] <davis__> maco: i think i will connect the camera to a fedora box and then sftp into that machine and grab the images from there
[16:32] <davis__> maco: if fedora recognises the camera, then there is a bug in kubuntu 10.04
[16:32] <BluesKaj> FinnArild, if you find a solution to getting vista as the default OS , pls post it ..I have the same problem with this laptop.:)
[16:33] <maco> davis__: ok. which version of kubuntu are you using by the way? mind trying live cds from some after-8.10 before-10.04 versions of kubuntu to see if it is recognized?
[16:33] <FinnArild> BluesKaj: just as DarthFrog told me
[16:33] <maco> id like to know what release it stopped being recognized in. i suspect the move from hal to udev in 10.04 is the cause
[16:33] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: I just told FinnArild how to do that.
[16:33] <FinnArild> BluesKaj: works as a charm ... only I was 1 number off now so it started a ramtest :)
[16:33] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: Set your default boot entry in /etc/default/grub.  Remember to start counting from zero. :-)  Then run "sudo update-grub" again.
[16:34] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog,ok ,I'll scroll back up ...I was away for a few
[16:34] <maco> davis__: on the other hand, the move away from hal is supposed to be taking place across the whole linux ecosystem. upstream kernel devs have decided its not the way to go... so i doubt fedora 13 will have it
[16:34] <roberto__> hi :)
[16:34] <roberto__> someone please -- how do I get /usr/bin/env ruby to work with ruby1.9.1 ? "/usr/bin/env ruby >> /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory" -- I know how to make a sym link but .. should I be manually doing that with ruby ?
[16:35] <FinnArild> DarthFrog: works like an especially effective charm that has gone to charm school and gone out with top grades in all charm classes
[16:35]  * FinnArild thanks and bows
[16:36] <DarthFrog> roberto__: Why not make a script?
[16:36] <roberto__> DarthFrog: that's acutally what I'm doing :)
[16:37] <DarthFrog> roberto__: If you put the ruby script in ~/bin and have ~/bin at the front of your $PATH, it'll be run.
[16:39] <davis__> maco: oh right , the move explains the problem
[16:39] <roberto__> DarthFrog: the "preferred" way to write the shebang call in a ruby script is "#!/usr/bin/env ruby" -- that's what is failing
[16:39] <DarthFrog> roberto__: Personally, I'd rename /usr/bin/ruby to /usr/bin/ruby.9.1 and have the ~/bin ruby script read: /usr/bin/env /usr/bin/ruby9.1
[16:39] <roberto__> DarthFrog: if I make it #!/usr/bin/env ruby1.9.1 it works, but I shouldn't have to do that
[16:40] <DarthFrog> roberto__: Ah, you're ahead of me then.
[16:40] <roberto__> so basically you're suggesting making a sym link then? is there some reason ubuntu ships with a .. if not broken, at least out-of-step ruby?
[16:40] <roberto__> DarthFrog: yea
[16:40] <roberto__> think so, thanks though
[16:40] <DarthFrog> roberto__: You're welcome.  I know nothing about ruby itself, however. :-)
[16:42] <DarthFrog> roberto__: Idle question: Why shouldn't you have to specifiy the version of ruby that you want?  Isn't that what the env command is for?  How is it to know otherwise?
[16:43] <roberto__> DarthFrog: on another operating system, it would handle it just like perl. Perl creates a $dir/perl.version and then a symlink $dir/perl to that file
[16:43] <roberto__> DarthFrog: but the ruby1.9.1 .deb package didnt do  that
[16:43] <roberto__> not for lucid
[16:44] <DarthFrog> roberto__: How about setting the version in your .bashrc file?
[16:45] <BluesKaj> ok DarthFrog , I reset the default to windows ..let's see if I chose correctly :) ...brb
[16:45]  * DarthFrog thinks that WIndows is always the wrong choice. :-)
[16:45] <roberto__> right now I have an alias for ruby=ruby1.9.1 in my bashrc but, taht won't work when I'm writing a script
[16:45] <DarthFrog> roberto__: An alias or an environmental variable?
[16:46] <eagles0513875> hey guys anyone know how to fix shared object errors
[16:57] <davis__> maco: i got it working, i installed digikam , then put the camera into the usb connection and the device notifer recognised the device and said then digikam loads with the images that i can download
[16:57] <davis__> maco: if you could suggest to the kubuntu team to have digikam installed by default
[16:58] <roberto__> how can I bind altgr+ñ key as a dead key for the ~ accent so I can write things like não (portuguese) ?
[16:59] <maco> davis__: we can't. it's too big.
[16:59] <maco> davis__: we'd have to not have language packs
[17:00] <maco> ive heard that bug before though. i wonder what piece of digikam does it. and why my camera worked fine with the device notifier before i installed digikam
[17:00] <maco> (maybe mine's usb mass storage, and yours is something else with which digikam knows how to communicate especially/0
[17:00] <maco> *?)
[17:01] <davis__> maco: the device was not showing as usb mass storage, so that must be why
[17:03] <jpedroza> I have a netbook remix install on an Eee PC 900. I installed the kdegames group and now all the icons in the application launcher are gone. Is there a way to add them back in?
[17:05] <jpedroza> Or better, is there a way to revert to the base installation without a complete format install?
[17:09] <roberto__> how can I bind altgr+ñ key as a dead key for the ~ accent so I can write things like não (portuguese) ?
[17:16] <oxymoron> Is it possible to make SKype or any video chatting app work out of the box with a DV cam?
[17:30] <CQ> how do you set the default boot option in grub2? just list that option first ??
[17:30] <DarthFrog> CQ: Edit /etc/default/grub and run "update-grub".
[17:31] <Geli> is it the netbook-channel?
[17:32] <Geli> #kubuntu-netbook
[17:32] <CQ> DarthFrog: don't have that file... or do you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[17:32] <Geli> #kubuntu-netbook +i
[17:33] <Geli> damn
[17:33] <DarthFrog> CQ: If you have a /boot/grub/menu.lst file, you are running GRUB 1, not GRUB 2.  Yes, edit that file.
[17:33] <Geli> #kubuntu-netbook (+i)
[17:34] <Geli> help me!
[17:34] <CQ> DarthFrog: what's default in karmic? Grub 1 or 2? I wouldn't mind upgrading Grub, not ready to switch to lucid yet though
[17:35] <DarthFrog> CQ: Depends upon whether you upgraded to Karmic from a previous version or did a fresh install.  GRUB2 was the default in a fresh install.
[17:35] <Geli> help meee
[17:35] <bazhang> Geli, with what
[17:36] <Geli> how can i join kubuntu-netbook?
[17:36] <DarthFrog> Geil: /join <channel>
[17:36] <bazhang> Geli, you can't
[17:36] <Geli> oh :(
[17:36] <Geli> why?
[17:36] <CQ> DarthFrog: upgraded from jaunty... is there an update-grub script or some such? It's a simple single boot kubuntu setup
[17:36] <bazhang> I'd imagine its for developers only
[17:37] <DarthFrog> CQ: That's why you have Grub 1.
[17:37] <DarthFrog> CQ: If it's working, don't fix it.
[17:38] <Geli> but in the webpage thew wrote:Feel free to join us on #kubuntu-netbook if you have questions.
[17:40] <BluesKaj> odd, i'm trying clean up the grub menu od old kernels , i cd into /boot and do ls vmlinuz* . It lists the kernels . then ran , sudo aptitude remove linux-image-2.6.32-18-generic linux-image-2.6.32-19-generic , but I get the can't find message , yet these oldies are stillisted in grub ...what gives?
[17:40] <Barridus> i'm having trouble getting upnp working, can anyone help?
[17:41] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  Try "dpkg -L | grep linux" and see what's installed.
[17:41] <opengeekv2> hello, I have a bug and I don't know in what package I have to report it, someone could help me?
[17:41] <DarthFrog> Oops, "dpkg -l" not -L
[17:43] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, uname -r  lists 2.6.32-22-generic ,dpkg -L | grep linux gives me an error "dpkg-query: --listfiles needs at least one package name argument"
[17:45] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: My mistook.  It should be -l not -L
[17:45] <BluesKaj> ok sudo dpkg -l | grep linux-image gave me the 2 linux images that i know are installed
[17:46] <CQ> DarthFrog: weird though, /etc/grub.d exists with all the files in it
[17:46] <BluesKaj> but the older kernelsm 2.6.32.18 and 19 are still listed in grub , but arent installed
[17:47] <DarthFrog> CQ: do you have an "update-grub2" command?  An "install-grub2" command?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> i miss the old grub menu.lst
[17:48] <CQ> update-grub2 yes
[17:48] <CQ> DarthFrog: update-grub2 yes
[17:50] <DarthFrog> CQ: how about grub2-install?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, any alternative to editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[17:53] <opengeekv2> hello, I have a bug and I don't know in what package I have to report it, someone could help me?
[17:53] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: You shouldn't edit that file.  Edit the files in /etc/grub.d and /etc/default/grub instead, then run update-grub2.  But unless you've installed grub2 none of that will make any difference.
[17:54] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  And by install, I mean run the grub2 install script, not an aptitude or apt-get install command.
[17:55] <BluesKaj> grub2 is installed
[17:55] <BluesKaj> I have had installed since jaunty
[17:56] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: In a nutshell, update-grub2 will write your /boot/grub/grub.cfg file for you.  If you edit that file by hand, you'll lose your changes the next time your system is updated.
[17:56] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  And by install, I mean run the grub2 install script, not an aptitude or apt-get install command.
[17:57] <BluesKaj> i don't have the grub2 install script , DarthFrog
[17:57] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: If you don't, your system will continue to run grub 1.
[17:58] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: What happens when you run "grub-install"?
[17:59] <BluesKaj> why would you think I'm running legacy grub ?, DarthFrog
[17:59] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: Because you have /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[17:59] <opengeekv2> hello, I have a bug and I don't know in what package I have to report it, someone could help me?
[18:00] <DarthFrog> Instead of /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:00] <bawww> hey does anyone else have a UI issue with Amarok on lucid?
[18:01] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, no I don't have /boot/grub/menu.lst ...I said i missed it cuz it was easy to edit
[18:01] <yofel> opengeekv2: you should ask this in #ubuntu-bugs, the bugsquad will know more ;)
[18:01] <bawww> amarok keeps forgetting the UI settings...
[18:01] <opengeekv2> ok
[18:01] <opengeekv2> theanks
[18:01] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog,  /boot/grub/grub.cfg file exists only in grub2
[18:01] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: Then I misunderstood you.  Oh hey, I was confusing you with what I was saying to CQ. :-)
[18:02] <BluesKaj> no biggie , DarthFrog :)
[18:02] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: In the immortal words of Emily Litella, "Nevermind!"  :-)
[18:02] <BluesKaj> yup
[18:03] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, i fail to understand why the  /boot/grub/grub.cfg doesn't update properly ...strange
[18:04] <BluesKaj> it list kernels that aren't installed
[18:04] <BluesKaj> err lists
[18:05] <mani_m> hello! i installed Kubuntu lucid lynx 10.04 amd64 and have a problem regarding "apt-get" to get connection to the internet, because i am behind a proxy server of a university. i already tried almost everything i could find with google...
[18:06] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, the update-grub command doesn't totally update
[18:07] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: Run "sudo update-grub2" then.
[18:17] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, nothing changed...it has to be a bug of some sort, but it's pretty trivial...it just bugs me, that's all
[18:21] <bawww> ok in your opinion what is the best KDE distrobution?
[18:23] <roberto1> what could be the problem if applications seem to hang on dns queries, including dig, but dig will respond back with query times like 18ms ?
[18:40] <vbgunz> in Kubuntu 9.10 Ext4 disk checking was extremely blazingly lightening fast. In 10.4, same system, upgraded, disk checking takes waaaaaay too long. What on earth happened?
[18:43] <__-osh-__> I just found out that I can't upgrade my server to "Intrepid" (Yes I know i'm way behind) because my /boot is too small. Disk layout is like this /dev/md0 -> /boot. About 100M. /dev/md1 -> lvm -> / -> About 250GB. Is it possible to shrink lvm and transfer to /boot? I'm assuming this isn't possible to do "on line" but from a rescue disc?
[18:44] <WMP> hi
[18:44] <eagles0513875> !hi | WMP
[18:45] <WMP> how to i can change keyboard layout in 10.04?
[18:45] <__-osh-__> vbgunz: Still on ext2/3 here so I can't help you I'm afraid.
[18:45] <__-osh-__> WMP: System settings?
[18:45] <WMP> __-osh-__: in sysem settings i can't change layout
[18:47] <__-osh-__> WMP: Personal -> Region & Language -> Keyboard layout.
[18:47] <__-osh-__> WMP: Atleast I have that.
[18:48] <__-osh-__> WMP: Could be called something else for you. I'm doing on-the-fly translation from my localized copy here... :-)
[18:48] <WMP> __-osh-__: thx
[18:48] <__-osh-__> WMP: np
[18:48] <WMP> but, what has name my layout??
[18:48] <WMP> This is keyboard in netbook
[18:49] <WMP> i have | \ near left shift
[18:50] <__-osh-__> WMP: I think there's a test functionality in there so just pick one and try it out. Choose whatever fits to your keyboard.
[18:50] <__-osh-__> WMP: I don't use it, I just pick my country and everything just works.
[18:50] <WMP> ok, i go to search this
[18:51] <__-osh-__> WMP: But there's a long list of keyboards there. Look at your computer and see if you can match it to something on that list.
[18:52] <WMP> __-osh-__: i look in this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout
[18:53] <__-osh-__> WMP: What about it?
[18:59] <rats> hi guys/girls  Im thinking of upgradeng from 9.10 to 10.4 . My question is are there any suprises I can expect or should I just do a fresh install
[19:01] <shadeslayer> rats: the upgrade should work flawlessly
[19:02] <rats> Everything works well in 9.10 I just like the idea of LTS. thanks shadeslayer
[19:03] <shadeslayer> rats: yeah,a LTS is certainly much better
[19:03] <jpedroza> Can anyone tell me why after installing the games packages I lost the launcher in KNR 10.04? There are no icons on the desktop anymore.
[19:08] <joeschmoe> Anyone know how to troubleshoot mounting a pre-existing luks encrypted volume? luksOpen and such seem to not work.
[19:26] <sheldon__> is there a way to silence up gtk app sounds?
[19:26] <PeterDrop> hi, iam using kde, where or how i can configure audio front panel?
[19:31] <DarthFrog> PeterDrop: Have you tried systemsettings?
[19:33] <PeterDrop> DarthFrog , yes it showme the sound hardware, but i wanna know how to get audio in the front panel,
[19:34] <DarthFrog> PeterDrop: Front panel of what?
[19:34] <PeterDrop> DarthFrog u know i wanna conecct my audio sistem in the pc from panel holes, u know ..
[19:35] <DarthFrog> Ah, that's got nothing to do with the OS.  You have to connect the appropriate cable from your front panel to the correct audio header on your motherboard, then configure it in the BIOS.
[19:36] <PeterDrop> the motherboard is ok
[19:36] <PeterDrop> the, just i have to configure the bios?
[19:37] <DarthFrog> PeterDrop: Perhaps, I can't be sure.
[19:37] <PeterDrop> what i have to put in the bios?
[19:37] <DarthFrog> PeterDrop: In my BIOS, there's entries for enabling/disabling various audio options.  That's where I'd look.
[19:38] <PeterDrop> ok i will try
[19:38] <PeterDrop> txs
[19:38] <DarthFrog> You're welcome.  Good luck.
[19:41] <vbgunz> is it possible to automatically renice xorg and kwin and change their scheduling priorities too? upon boot? I would like to experiment with my kwin effects and *keep* them smooth. should this even help?
[19:43] <StefanT> hmm, vbgunz, I would not do it. Using more processing power to visual effects sounds not ideal to me.
[19:47] <vbgunz> I just don't like the skipping and stuttering sometimes. I just reniced kwin and maxed it out and I am not sure if it truly made a difference but bouncing from desktop to desktop window to window the effects are smoother or I am crazy :/
[19:47] <vbgunz> I also unchecked direct rendering which I thought should be horrid but I think is possibly nicer
[19:49] <DarthFrog> vbgunz: What graphics card do you have?  What CPU do you have?
[19:49] <malik_> Hey guys I got a lil problemo with my ubuntu setup...after the upgrad to 10.4 some applications are bugging because they are denied permission to my cdrive, when it has been mounted and authorized..any clues?
[19:50] <vbgunz> DarthFrog: I have an AMD Phenom X4 9950 (2.6) and an Nvidia GTX260
[19:51] <DarthFrog> vbgunz: Well, you certainly have enough horsepower! :-)  So that isn't the problem.  Which video drivers are you using?
[19:52] <vbgunz> I am using the latest Nvidia binary drivers 195.36.24 I think
[19:52] <vbgunz> yeah 195.36.24 it is
[19:52] <DarthFrog> If you don't want direct rendering, try using the "nv" driver.
[19:53] <vbgunz> DarthFrog: not that I don't want it. effects are surprisingly smoother or its all in my head *but* I thought effects would suffer big time without direct rendering. its just not happening
[19:54] <vbgunz> I just also switched texture from pixmap to shared memory
[19:54] <oxymoron> Is it possible to make SKype or any video chatting app work out of the box with a DV cam?
[19:54] <vbgunz> im not sure what the overall effect is there but both my gpu and system ram should have plenty to spare
[19:54] <oxymoron> And then does Kopete support multiple accounts logged in at the same time?
[19:55] <StefanT> vbgunz: you could change texture filtering to "nearest" in the OpenGL settings of kwin. This should make effects smoother too.
[19:57] <oxymoron> Ah sweet, Kopete support multiple accounts login :D
[19:57] <oxymoron> Anyone know how to fix DV webcam support?
[19:57] <vbgunz> StefanT: yeah, I had best, gonna ride this for a while, see how it turns out, im just trying to get rid of some intermittent stuttering, jitteriness that shows up here and there
[19:59] <WMP> I have new problem - when I'm connected to my wifi network every couple of minutes a window appear requesting a password to this network.
[20:02] <WMP> this window has in title: KNetworkManager
[20:05] <oxymoron> Anyone know how to fix DV webcam support?
[20:11] <Snarkster> afternoon
[20:12] <Snarkster> have some strange things going on. my server keeps telling me it can not identify its old name since i changed its name.\
[20:12] <Snarkster> I even changed its name in the hosts file
[20:12] <Snarkster> where else would it have its old name?
[20:14] <oxymoron> Anyone know how to fix DV webcam support?
[20:15] <Snarkster> nvm i found it in the hostname file.. thank you
[20:26] <malik_> hey
[20:26] <malik_> how the hell do I get my apps to stop telling me they are not allowed to access another partition of my hard drive?
[20:30] <darkdelusions> Ok i am confused
[20:30] <darkdelusions> rofl
[20:31] <darkdelusions> knetworkmanger wouldnt work earlier my laptop goes in hibernate
[20:31] <darkdelusions> now its working agian
[20:43] <steaminc> #ubuntu
[20:43] <miniBill> I'm in the alternate installation cd. any chance of using my soundcard?
[20:43] <miniBill> [the installation will be *looong* for me :)]
[20:45] <Novita> Can anyone please tell me where to set Single Click open to Double click. There are so many options i cant find it.
[20:47] <tv_> hello, I can not see television with kubuntu dvb 10.04. Has anyone solved this problem?
[20:48] <oxymoron> It seems like #kubuntu abonded their users :P
[20:48] <Novita> Just give them time to respond ;-)
[20:49] <PeterDrop> any idea for make working audio on front panel?
[20:49] <lantizia> How can I view my webcam?  (cheese alternative for KDE?)
[20:49] <oxymoron> Novita: Nothing have happened for awhile now, but sure I wait some more I guess ...
[20:49] <oxymoron> lantizia: Would like to know that as well :)
[20:49] <lantizia> I'm reading something called WebKam exists, but it's not in the repos
[20:50] <oxymoron> lantizia: Huh? I got my dv cam working and its forwarded to /dev/dv1394/0 but no application like Kopete, SKype, VLC or anything can detect it, I dont think its forwarded too v4l or v4l2
[20:55] <oxymoron> vloopback I think I should use, but I think its used by default in Lucid :P
[20:55] <darkdelusions> lantizia: it funny you ask that
[20:55] <darkdelusions> I was just looking for the same thing
[20:56] <darkdelusions> I ended up just grabbing cheese
[20:57] <darkdelusions> lantizia: there is something out there called webKam
[20:57] <lantizia> darkdelusions, didn't you just see me say that?
[20:58] <smokealot> lol
[20:58] <darkdelusions> lantizia: rolf no :) but I was skimming :)
[20:59] <lantizia> I don't think my digicam can do the function of a webcam anyway - so it doesn't matter
[20:59] <darkdelusions> I need to turn off join and part messages
[21:40] <lucitu> after the botched 4.4.3 update i can't login anymore it keeps coming back to the kdm screen can't see any meaningful err msgs. any ideas?
[21:43] <lucitu> seen post about consolekit but it's installed..reinstalled xorg radeon kdm..reconfig xorg.conf..running out of ideas
[21:44] <lucitu> vaguely remember this before but can't remember fixes..has anyone experienced this before?
[21:48] <Guest37221> i am come back
[21:50] <lucitu> Guest37221: ?? you will be back? or you are back?
[22:00] <thechef> I just tried to move a window into the left upper corner and expected the analog behaviour as when i move it to the left side of the screen, but it behaved exactly the same instead of resizing the window to a quarter to the screen. Are there settings for this?
[22:06] <edlik> please help. I just upgraded to 10.04 now I have no gui. I can enter in low graphics mode. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
[22:16] <Polemus1> i get an error: "cdrecord returned an unknown error....... sometimes using TAO writing mode solves the problem" ... when i try to write a dvd using k3b
[22:21] <Polemus1> i get an error: "cdrecord returned an unknown error....... sometimes using TAO writing mode solves the problem" ... when i try to write a dvd using k3b
[22:32] <vbgunz> I just had something interesting happen. I walked away and came back and found myself at the KDM login screen. wth. How do I figure out why that happened>?
[22:34] <JontheEchidna> vbgunz: could you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old file?
[22:36] <vbgunz> JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/430229/
[22:38] <vbgunz> I don't see anything of interest there... am I missing it? could it be in another log?
[22:39] <JontheEchidna> hmm, looks totally normal
[22:39] <JontheEchidna> usually, logouts like that happen because the display server crashes
[22:40] <vbgunz> JontheEchidna: I did give Xorg higher than usual priority
[22:40] <vbgunz> that though was in the last session. It should be back at normal now
[22:40] <JontheEchidna> but if Xorg crashes do happen, then they should in theory show up in that log
[22:40] <JontheEchidna> so I'm a bit stumped
[22:41] <vbgunz> im running all up and down the kde system log gui now
[23:26] <oxymoron> Anyone know how to fix DV webcam support?
[23:33] <Guest12907> I can't connect to my hidden wifi network
[23:33] <InvaderZim> ok... 10.04 here, nvidia. Sine 9.04 i cant make it remember my resolution, everytime i boot i need too change it
[23:36] <vbgunz> InvaderZim: do this; kdesudo nvidia-settings and make all your changes and save or merge the resulting xorg.conf
[23:36] <InvaderZim> already tried... it works but the letters get so small and unreadable that hurts
[23:37] <vbgunz> what do you mean? you chose the correct resolution in nvidia-settings and saved the resulting file to xorg.conf in /etx/X11 ?
[23:39] <vbgunz> InvaderZim: sorry. its /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... nvidia-settings cannot save or merge to that file unless you explicitly run nvidia-settings as root
[23:41] <vbgunz> Guest12907: any luck?
[23:41] <Guest12907> nope
[23:41] <vbgunz> Guest12907: do you have mac filters?
[23:41] <Guest12907> no filters
[23:42] <vbgunz> hmm, not too sure then. I know I used to have some major problems and it always had to do with me forgetting to add a devices mac address
[23:43] <vbgunz> but I personally set up my router to do mac filtering, so your case is different
[23:43] <Guest12907> vbguns: did you connect through knetwork , gnome, wcid, or command line?
[23:44] <vbgunz> Guest12907: im sorry, I do have wireless devices, ps3s, other window powered pc's but my linux workstation is ethernet
[23:45] <vbgunz> Guest12907: if you control the router, don't hide the ssid for a moment and see if you can at least see it
[23:45] <Guest12907> apartments router, they won't change the settings.
[23:45] <Guest12907> I'm not happy with them
[23:46] <vbgunz> could it be case sensitive?
[23:46] <Guest12907> I've tried it both ways, but I know the essid is all lowercase
[23:46] <vbgunz> I made a mistake just 2 days ago on a ps3. there was a space at the very beginning of the ssid and I almost pulled my hair out
[23:46] <Guest12907> key is in hex
[23:46] <bodom> InvaderZim: probably it's a dpi issue
[23:47] <InvaderZim> well yes, but how to fix it?
[23:47] <bodom> InvaderZim: you can manually specify dpi on xorg.conf, but I don't remember the syntax
[23:47] <InvaderZim> so... there is no user friendly gui way of doing it?
[23:48] <bodom> InvaderZim: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Display_Size_and_DPI
[23:48] <bodom> InvaderZim: I'm not expert about user friendly guis, I almost never use them, sorry
[23:48] <bodom> InvaderZim: probably, there is
[23:49] <InvaderZim> ok... i use kubuntu mainly to see how a new user would face trouble, thats why i dont want manual editing
[23:49] <InvaderZim> at least krandrtray was a workaround
[23:49] <InvaderZim> it remembered the resolution and at boot it changed when ran... but now it doesnt work
[23:50] <bodom> InvaderZim: if you have found an bug or a missing user riendly application to configure something, plz fill a bug report
[23:51] <InvaderZim> ok will do... weird i don't have nvidia-settings anymore
[23:53] <bodom> InvaderZim: btw, I have nvidia too, and nvidia always was a pain for me to to get i working right (dual head setup doesn't help).
[23:53] <InvaderZim> yeah nvidia was supposed to be good but just blob soft it seems
[23:55] <bodom> InvaderZim: are you using nvidia or nouveau driver? Tried nouveau for first time when upgraded to 10.04 and I got surprised on how I got it worked with less hassle than usual
[23:55] <scott_j> Im using kubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx). In quick access widget, is it possible to show the contents of a folder without opening the folder in a new window ?
[23:55] <scott_j> even in Folder View widget clicking on a folder opens it in a new window
[23:56] <scott_j> or is there some other widget i can use ?
[23:57] <bodom> scott_j: that was default behaviour on 9.10, let me check
[23:57] <scott_j> k
[23:57] <bodom> scott_j: ok, found. Just don't click on the folder
[23:58] <bodom> scott_j: holdn on your mouse over the folder and after about half a sec it should pop-up the content
[23:58] <scott_j> bodom: u mean in the quick access widget ?
[23:59] <scott_j> bodom: i tried doing that in quick access widget, but it does not show the folder contents