=== FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away === FFForever-Away is now known as FFForever === FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away === FFForever-Away is now known as FFForever === FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away === jussi changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Official Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat support/discussion | IRC Guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | Thanks to you all for testing Lucid and making it a great release | Lucid support in #ubuntu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule [12:32] is it out yet? [12:32] :) [12:41] mm.. dzień dobry to all.. good to be back ;) [12:42] hey kklimonda [12:43] * yofel just sent a ident.ca message to bugabundo, so he should be here soon too [12:43] so, who, beside bugabundo, is already running maverick? ;) [12:44] haha, not yet, I want to repartition my HD here so I have lucid as a backup this time, lucid pre-alpha was a mess [12:46] heh, I do an upgrade around alpha2 anyway - and I'm considering running lucid at least until beta release this time [13:25] Aha :) [13:28] Anyone know the time when I'll be able to update via update-manager -d? [13:28] Ian_Corne: alpha1 [13:29] Gah [13:29] The dillemas [13:37] kklimonda: I do [15:49] howdy [16:03] howdy === Barridus_ is now known as Barridus === yofel_ is now known as yofel === FFForever-Away is now known as FFForever [19:12] MAMA I'M BACK!! [19:13] Welcome back! [19:13] Got any machine on maverick yet? [19:17] mine [19:17] since day 1 [19:17] :) [19:17] Ian_Corne: do you really think I would wait? [19:18] BUGabundo: You made it! [19:18] I did charlie-tca :) [19:18] thanks to yofel for the heads up :) [19:19] hey [19:19] I saw the changes message in announcements [19:20] which changes? [19:20] I'm not going to upgrade till monday :( [19:20] limited bandwith at home [19:20] They have already opened the maverick changes mailing list [19:21] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/maverick-changes [19:21] ahh [19:21] I stop tracking that in 7.04 [19:21] heh [19:22] apparently, I don't get enough email yet [19:22] I don't read any more ML mail [19:23] and even bug mail... only once a week [19:23] I couldn't read it all just once a week. The backlog would be too high [19:24] deja-dup: Depends: gconf2 (>= 2.28.1-2) but 2.28.1-0ubuntu1 is installed. [19:24] there we go... deps conflits: start.now(); [19:24] I look at mails every day, but sort the ML mails in different folders [19:24] I have diff emails accounts :) [19:24] not scalable if anything gets into the inbox... [19:25] each ML goes to each own folder :) [19:39] hi. when can i dist-upgrade? :D [19:40] you can already [19:40] just need to sed sources [19:40] knittl: june 3rd it seems [19:40] hiiii BUGabundo :) [19:40] no stuff for UM at this time [19:40] um? [19:40] that would be around alpha1 [19:40] BUGabundo: what is there worthy in Meerkat as of now? [19:41] the joy of testing [19:41] what he said :) [19:41] BUGabundo: so, sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/g'? ;) [19:41] NO [19:41] attention to PPAs [19:41] and I would keep security repos for lucid, for now [19:42] i do not have any ppas [19:42] they should be build faster then regular maverick [19:42] you don't have ppa??????? [19:42] how do you mean security repo? [19:42] no, i am happy with the default repos [19:42] lucid-security [19:42] and do you mean 'own ppa' or 'use ppa' ? [19:43] i don't use ppas [19:43] wow... [19:44] hm what's the big fuss about not using ppas? oO [19:44] It provides certain unavailble or more up to date packages :) [19:44] I'm using 7 right now, my own ones not counted [19:44] but nobody forces me to use 'em [19:44] obviously :p [19:45] so i can replace lucid with maverick and should be good to go to do a dist-upgrade? [19:45] * jpds doesn't use PPAs either. [19:46] knittl: pretty much [19:46] I had ~70 packaged that were updated when I upgraded an hour ago :D [19:46] yofel: that what I said : wow :) [19:46] heh [19:46] knittl: aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade [19:46] have the goals for meerkat been set? [19:47] * BUGabundo goes count ppas [19:47] alex_mayorga: No, we're doing that next week. [19:47] 62 packages upgraded, 1 new :) [19:47] $ grep ppa /etc/apt/sources.list | wc -l [19:47] 20 [19:47] jpds: got a link on how to get involved? [19:47] jpds: or maybe just watch? [19:47] yay, updating [19:47] repos: $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | wc -l 45 [19:48] alex_mayorga: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-M/RemoteParticipation [19:48] jpds: thanks! === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_DrWho [19:48] wooo wooo Darlek time :) [19:56] hehe [19:57] meerkat manor? [19:58] yay, upgraded :> [20:22] BUGabundo_DrWho: Daleks? you are behind the schedule! it's time for Venice [20:22] That was 2 hours ago. [20:23] I know [20:23] some how I never download them :) [20:23] so back on S05E03 [20:55] I am worried about gnome-shell [20:56] How much will it be forced on us? [20:57] isn't is supposed to be the default in 11.04? (not sure about maverick) [20:57] s/is/it/ [20:58] yofel: I can live with 'default' [20:58] but compiz, will it still be supported? [20:58] yofel: you are in an hurry [20:59] [OT] in case anyone wants to give me an early gift... I want one of this http://micgadget.com/3381/ipad-knockoff-upgraded-with-android-2-1-and-larger-display/ [20:59] bear in mind that compiz does a release soon, and from that point will get many new featurws [20:59] not much, but I am interested in how gnome3 will look like, can't get myself to like gnome-shell 2.28 though :/ [21:04] MaximLevitsky: it's getting features of bling? ;) [21:04] or* [21:04] kklimonda: probably will get MPX support [21:05] kklimonda: as you know compiz always got 50:50 of that [21:12] MaximLevitsky: I read that gnomesheel will not be default in mavrick but will be installable as a package [21:12] *shell [21:12] ubuntujenkins: this is great [21:13] MaximLevitsky: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/mark-shuttleworth-no-gnome-shell-in.html thats where i read it [21:18] it already is installable in lucid, not quite up-to-date though [21:22] hello BUGabundo_DrWho [21:22] hey bruce89 [21:22] welcome back dear friend [21:23] even if you are still on "the other side" [21:23] heh, I'll behave mysel [21:23] know that many of us , share the same point of view as you do [21:23] just not the _balls_ to change :) [21:23] heh [21:27] other side? [21:27] the F word [21:27] he abandoned *buntu [21:27] cause he didn't agree with many of canonical policies [21:27] ah [21:27] don't worry, I'm here to just be nice [21:28] I don't agree with many policies [21:28] and I use the hell out of rhel5 [21:28] but don't like it [21:28] my one attempt at f* was a big failure [21:28] probably due to my slackware background [21:33] well I still like ubuntu [21:33] and admit some of this changes will be good in the mid term [21:33] but it will run over many users [21:33] and they either endur or move.. [21:34] .... like our bud bruce89 did [21:34] * yofel moved next door to Kubuntu and is happy :P [21:34] ahah [21:34] I agree. Of course, I use Xubuntu instead, which doesn't really have those changes. [21:35] whoa, it's open again [21:35] * patdk-wk doesn't like kde at all [21:35] I was finding myself being more GNOMEy anyway [21:36] kde and gnome go pretty much in the exact opposite direction when it comes to philosophy, depends on fits you better [21:37] *what fits [21:37] hey ddecator, welcome ;) [21:37] thanks yofel =) [21:37] * patdk-wk notes he has a dirty mind [21:38] won't be on maverick until a3, but i'll chill in here and see what happens [21:38] I very much like gnome-shell [21:39] * BUGabundo_DrWho hugs ddecator till he run out of air [21:39] * ddecator passes out [21:40] ddecator: don't! join us NOW [21:40] BUGabundo_DrWho: i would, but i kinda need my comp to do homework, haha. i'll use testdrive here and there to test things out before a3 [21:41] do it from grub2 and daily isos [21:41] that's what I do [21:42] do it from grub2? [21:42] * patdk-wk is alittle paranoid [21:42] I can't remember if it was the intrepid or karmic 64bit install cd [21:42] The thing that really stinks about gnome-shell is that it forces windows manager on us [21:43] but one of them had a bad wifi driver for my intel card, that kept corrupting ext3 [21:43] I disabled the wifi card the bios and all was good [21:44] ddecator: I have it on my blog p.bugabundo.net [21:45] BUGabundo_DrWho: looks like you have a little bit of everything on there, haha [21:45] tag grub2 [21:45] ...i just noticed that your nick says DrWho, and you are amazing for that [21:46] lol [21:46] your torrent is downloading [21:46] 34.78 MB / 49.01 MB cached - 70.9% [21:46] 196 KB/s - 1 mins left [21:46] oopss [21:46] wrong tab [21:46] that's legal, btw :) cyanogenmod rom for my android [21:47] haha [21:47] BUGabundo_DrWho: thanks, i'll have to check that out once i get out of school and have the time to experiment more with my comp === BUGabundo_DrWho is now known as BUGabundo_MythB [22:38] the magic of British democracy === BUGabundo_MythB is now known as BUGabundo_NCIS [22:46] yofel: wrong account :( [22:47] send "unsub bugabundo" a few times till you remove all [22:47] I'm getting confused, identi.ca unsubcribed me from all... [22:47] and then resub with "sub bugabundo@brainbird.net" [22:48] yofel: you mean you lost everyone you were subbed to? [22:49] not everyone, I just noticed that I didn't get any messages from you anymore after I left the 'ubuntu' and 'linux' groups a few days ago, now I saw that I got unsubscribed from you too somehow [22:49] and didn't quite know which one to subscribe again ^^ [22:49] right acc. now? [22:50] I got it [22:50] testing [22:51] I meant I didn't recieve any of your usual posts, @ still worked fine obviously [22:52] got it yofel? [22:52] I did, thanks :) [22:52] I bet your timeline got quiet.... with me on it :) [22:52] you *only* lost 20~40 notices per day :) [22:53] well, I left ubuntu and linux as it was too much, but now it got too quiet ^^ [22:54] I noticed that when I moved to OMB, now OStatus [22:54] and could not sub to groups [22:58] Hi [22:58] hello [23:00] hey hey sebsebseb [23:00] yeah hi BUGabundo_NCIS [23:02] one way to change that sebsebseb [23:03] bruce89: you made it sound like something interesting was going on in here, but nope [23:03] there is, I'm here [23:04] hahah [23:04] * BUGabundo_NCIS smacks bruce89 in the head [23:05] fair enough [23:07] hello malnilion [23:08] Hello. [23:08] or mattgirv even, I'm going to have to shoot myself now [23:08] lol [23:08] bruce89: Hoho, hello :) [23:08] it'll be bloody tories in No10 next [23:08] oh wait [23:08] bruce89: They'll arrange the shooting for you, no doubt. [23:09] this channel gets logged by the way guys [23:09] sebsebseb: Sounds nice. [23:09] hello insomniacs! [23:15] incidentally, I think the Tories are lovely people who are going to be very good for this country [23:15] when they get forced out in 2 months time... [23:16] bruce89: I heard David Cameron uses Ubuntu? [23:16] mattgirv: I doubt it [23:17] don't get me started [23:25] why do people care about david cameron? [23:25] gates uses windows, so I should too! [23:25] Who said anyone cared? [23:27] does he really use it? [23:28] No [23:28] aw [23:30] !politics [23:30] Please take political discussion to ##politics. Thank you! [23:32] apparently John Beattie uses Ubuntu [23:37] if John reads that, sorry [23:39] is there sort of a test framework/sequence to go through to test new ubuntu? have a kvm or virtualbox instance to test the new release in [23:40] !info testdrive [23:40] i know of testdrive, thats just to facilitate running it [23:40] testdrive (source: testdrive): run the daily Ubuntu ISO in a virtual machine. In component universe, is optional. 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