[07:09] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:20] <doctormo> hello czajkowski, when do you fly? (do you?)
[07:32] <czajkowski> tomorrow
[07:32] <czajkowski> 6:20am
[08:02] <jussi> good morning all!
[08:03] <czajkowski> jussi: howdy
[08:03] <jussi> hiya czajkowski, excited to be leaving soon?
[08:03] <jussi> czajkowski: dont forget my tinwhistle!
[08:03] <czajkowski> tomorrow morning
[08:04] <czajkowski> 90 min flight
[08:04] <czajkowski> jussi: tin whistle is packed my dear
[08:04] <jussi> excellent :D
[08:35] <doctormo> I leave today at 7:30pm, get there for 11am
[11:13] <nigelb> I guess a lot of folks are in air or bound to airport today
[11:17] <AlanBell> tomorrow for me
[11:18] <AlanBell> but going on the train
[11:18] <nigelb> AlanBell: wow!
[11:18]  * nigelb <3 trains
[11:18] <nigelb> AlanBell: I'm so so jealous :D
[11:18] <AlanBell> going through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Tunnel
[11:19] <nigelb> brbr
[11:23] <nigelb> AlanBell: how long is the ride?
[11:25] <Pendulum> AlanBell: I'm jealous you're getting to train. I really liked the Eurostar the time I took it
[11:25] <nigelb> Pendulum: free at last huh?
[11:25] <AlanBell> nigelb: no idea, I think we have plans for a podcast recording to pass the time
[11:26] <nigelb> AlanBell: wow, rocking :)
[11:26]  * nigelb really needs to get down and renew passport
[11:26] <AlanBell> Pendulum: planes are good too
[11:27] <AlanBell> although long flights are hard work
[11:27] <nigelb> I dnno, there is something about trains that I love
[11:27] <Pendulum> they are, but given the choice I'd go with the Eurostar (admittedly I also ended up in first class on a cheap ticket because there are only 2 wheelchair spots on the train and the other was already booked)
[11:28] <AlanBell> I hope you get well looked after on the plane
[11:28] <AlanBell> who are you flying with?
[11:29] <Pendulum> Delta
[11:29] <nigelb> AlanBell: you, popey, and daviey?
[11:29] <Pendulum> which could be okay or could be horrible
[11:31] <Pendulum> mostly annoyed because I really wanted to sleep in this morning as I don't sleep on flights, and instead my body decided that this was late enough and I've not gotten loads of sleep :(
[11:31] <nigelb> what time is the flight?
[11:31] <Pendulum> 7PM tonight
[11:32] <nigelb> how much of a TZ difference do you land up in?
[11:32] <AlanBell> I think someone has broken https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-M/Attendees
[11:32] <nigelb> its displaying okay for me so far
[11:33] <AlanBell> there is a second arrivals and departure section
[11:33] <AlanBell> with different data
[11:33] <nigelb> ouch
[11:34] <Pendulum> ugh, transatlantic flights are expected to run 90-120 minutes late today due to ash :(
[11:35] <Pendulum> and that's not "late" as in leave late, but "late" as in be that much longer
[11:35] <AlanBell> you will still be there well before me
[11:35] <nigelb> oh, slower
[11:35] <Pendulum> yes, but it means potentially 10.5 hours in flight instead of 8.5
[11:35] <Pendulum> yeah, they're having to reroute around it, I guess
[11:36] <Pendulum> and I'm always first on and last off so figure I could be on a plane for close to 12 hours
[11:36] <AlanBell> they have to divert south from the great circle route to go round it
[11:36] <nigelb> well, at least better than being grounded at least
[11:37] <Pendulum> yeah. i'm glad i was already planning on taking loads of pain medication
[11:38] <jussi> Pendulum: make sure you have your prescriptions with you
[11:38]  * nigelb was just about to say that
[11:38] <nigelb> jussi: you're flying or taking a train?
[11:38] <jussi> flying
[11:38] <jussi> tomorrow
[11:38] <Pendulum> jussi: I know. And I never remove from the prescription bottles (which also have it written on it) as well
[11:38] <jussi> ahh, yeah
[11:39] <nigelb> jussi: btw, I entered your channel out of curiousity ;) No big deal
[11:39]  * jussi almost got done for drug running with morphine...
[11:39] <Pendulum> I don't have morphine :(
[11:39] <jussi> nigelb: i was asking how you found it
[11:39] <nigelb> jussi: well, I have this script that does a whois on whoever PM's me
[11:39] <jussi> yes... but I have +i set... ?
[11:39] <nigelb> yeah, it wasn't you :p
[11:40] <czajkowski> nigelb slightly stalkerish
[11:40] <jussi> oh, mind telling me who so I can slap them into +i? :P
[11:40] <nigelb> czajkowski: it was entirely innocent.  someone told me its a nice script to have
[11:40] <jussi> mind, I can guess who...
[11:40] <Pendulum> but I know one of my meds isn't available in europe at all (and if they confiscate it, I'm screwed since we're in Belgium and not Holland since the non-synthetic version of the same chemical is cannabis ;-) )
[11:40] <nigelb> jussi: you should be able to guess whom I might PM on *that* list ;)
[11:40] <qense> Pendulum: What's the med?
[11:40] <czajkowski> nigelb ah tis
[11:41] <Pendulum> qense: marinol. it's a synthetic THC
[11:41] <nigelb> czajkowski: like some random person pm's you and you want to associate with what the heck he/she is talking about
[11:41] <qense> You could quickly jump the border and fetch some. :)
[11:41] <qense> Although there have been crack-downs on drug tourism lately, tourists cause almost all problems.
[11:41] <Pendulum> qense: I am aware that if I absolutely had to I could. Just would be a PITA.
[11:42] <qense> Pendulum: It would be odd if they'd confiscate it. Do you have papers for them?
[11:42]  * nigelb had to google for PITA
[11:42] <qense> Pita bread!
[11:42] <nigelb> jussi: sorry I stalked your channel though :/
[11:42] <czajkowski> nigelb i get a lot of random pm being freenode staffer
[11:42] <nigelb> czajkowski: yeah, I get a lot during classroom sessions or during patch day
[11:42] <Pendulum> qense: yeah. so I think I should be okay. just a little paranoid because it's the main thing I have to manage pain.
[11:42] <qense> I had to take a Schengen Declaration with me for my medication when I went to Greece (inside Schengen-area), but I was never asked to show it.
[11:43] <Pendulum> yeah, I've never actually been questioned on meds anywhere
[11:43] <czajkowski> back later
[11:43] <nigelb> Pendulum: they'll most probably not ask you
[11:43] <jussi> nigelb: no problems, not much happens there, just was curious how you came acoss it.
[11:43] <Pendulum> I just get paranoid because of how bad it would be if they did decide it wasn't acceptable
[11:43] <nigelb> jussi: hehe, btw a lot of people have the ##<nick> channel
[11:44] <jussi> yup
[11:44]  * nigelb doesn't
[11:44] <nigelb> too many channels, irssi doesn't have enough space until end of UDS
[11:45] <Pendulum> heh
[11:45] <qense> I'm already in 15 channels on Freenode and in 7 on GIMPNet and the UDS hasn't even started yet.
[11:45] <nigelb> oh grr, when I /whois my other nick, I can't see what channels its on
[11:46] <nigelb> well, at least the +i works great :D
[11:49] <nigelb> AlanBell: bah, its only 2 hours
[11:49] <Pendulum> I suspect UDS is going to be the first time I'll really ever wish I ran irssi in a screen
[11:50] <nigelb> Pendulum: you don't run it off a server?
[11:51] <Pendulum> nigelb: nope
[11:52] <nigelb> Pendulum: screen is mostly useful when its running on a server and you keep connecting to the same session
[11:52] <nigelb> when its only on your laptop, not really that useful, you can always open another terminal, not possible on a server though
[11:52] <Pendulum> I know. This is why I don't run screen
[11:53] <nigelb> Pendulum: chris offered me a user on his vps to run irssi :)
[11:54] <Pendulum> I could probably set it up on a friend's server, but I've not asked if he'd be cool with my setting it up on it, and he hasn't offered and it's too late to ask now :)
[11:55] <nigelb> Pendulum: you can ask a lot of folks around, they'd be happy to set it up for you :)
[11:57] <jussi> channels.... hrm, Im in like... errr... 70ish?
[11:58]  * nigelb bows
[11:58] <nigelb> jussi: ever used putty?
[11:58] <nigelb> (the ssh thingy)
[11:59] <jussi> oh, hang on,its more like 110...
[11:59] <jussi> nigelb: yes...
[11:59] <nigelb> jussi: can I PM, I need help with that
[11:59] <jussi> nigelb: Im quite busy at the moment, do they not have a support channel?
[12:00] <nigelb> jussi: no clue
[12:01] <jussi> /msg alis help
[12:01] <jussi> nigelb: ^^^^
[12:01] <nigelb> ok
[12:10] <nigelbabu> yaay!, it works
[12:10] <nigelbabu> I fianlly managed to ssh into my irssi session
[12:28] <AlanBell> Pendulum: you can run screen on one of my servers if you like
[13:00] <qense> Guys, you did all notice ubuntulog is now idling in this channel as well?
[13:14] <jussi> qense: i do beleive it was asked to come in.
[13:14] <qense> I did
[13:14] <qense> With Jono's approval, of course.
[13:15] <jussi> qense: ok, please make sure the channel topic gets updated if you do that in any other channels. we have a legal oblgation to notify people on join that they are being logged.
[13:15] <qense> jussi: I didn't know that, thank you for doing it.
[13:15] <qense> I hope the people idling yesterday won't sue.
[13:16] <jussi> and let me know if you see any cahnnels that are logged without an appropriate topic or entry message
[13:16] <jussi> qense: :D
[13:16] <qense> jussi: Will do, thank you for pointing me at it!
[14:11] <qense> Dammit! More airspace troubles because of ash.
[14:11] <qense> But the pictures at Iceland! They look so awesome.
[14:12] <qense> I mean, look at this: <http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/article1377447.ece/Vliegverkeer_ondervindt_weer_hinder_van_aswolk>
[14:12] <qense> Amsterdam Airport said that travellers to North-America and South-Europe should expect delays and even cancellations.
[14:16] <qense> (_maybe_ even cancellations)
[14:17] <Pendulum> yeah, i'm getting nervous
[14:17] <JanC> looking at cloud maps it looks like Amsterdam, Brussels & London airports are safe for now, I'm not so sure about Paris (but I'm not a meteorologist ;) )
[14:17] <Pendulum> I can't decide whether I wish my flight was earlier or later
[14:19] <JanC> clouds are blowing NE to SW over Belgium currently, while blowing the other way over Spain & (part of) France
[14:20] <JanC> and currently airports are closing in teh north of Portugal & Spain and south of France...
[14:21] <qense> yes
[14:23] <Pendulum> nigelbabu: ^^ do you want to say what you just told me?
[14:23] <nigelbabu> well, someone had their chicago -> brussels flight cancelled
[14:24]  * nigelbabu goes to hunt for scroll back in -devel
[14:24] <qense> The ash came back just a bit too early.
[14:24] <qense> I'm happy I'm going by train and I've already got my ticket; no ash troubles for me.
[14:24] <Pendulum> I wish it would hold until Monday
[14:25] <Pendulum> I don't really care if I get stuck *in* Brussels
[14:25] <nigelbabu> scott ritchie i suppose (YoKoZar)
[14:25] <JanC> qense: unless it's a steam train  ;)
[14:26] <qense> JanC: It is the NS after all, who knows. ;)
[14:26] <Pendulum> oh dear, if your'e right, then that's a whole bunch of people
[14:27] <Pendulum> (I count 12 people on that flight according to the wiki)
[14:27] <nigelbabu> Pendulum: he rescheudled to paris and then train to brussels ;)
[14:27] <qense> aw
[14:27] <nigelbabu> ouch, 12 people
[14:27] <Pendulum> hopefully the rest can, too. I know at least one is probably at the airport already for flight to Chicago
[14:28] <JanC> nigelbabu: there are no assh problems in Brussels for the moment, but maybe his plane got stuck in Spain or Portugal or such...
[14:28] <nigelbabu> JanC: dunno, I just heard in -devel when trying to catch who pinged me
[14:29] <JanC> nigelbabu: I know, read what he told
[14:29] <nigelbabu> JanC: so, all those people will be affected right?
[14:29] <Pendulum> huh, according to the website for the airline, the flight is still happening
[14:29] <JanC> I guess the airline companies will try to reschedule them somehow
[14:30] <Pendulum> oh, wait, I take that back
[14:30] <Pendulum> it's cancelled
[14:30] <JanC> Pendulum: any reason given?
[14:30] <Pendulum> nope
[14:30] <Pendulum> just says cancelled
[14:30] <Pendulum> and it's not until this afternoon
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[14:31] <Pendulum> (like the flight wasn't even supposed to depart Chicago for another 7 hours)
[14:31] <nigelbabu> JanC: lol
[14:32] <JanC> Pendulum: sounds like thay know their plane is stuck somewhere and won't be in Chicago in time for the flight
[14:32] <Pendulum> that's what I'm hoping
[14:32] <Pendulum> frustrating that this is a saturday so probably can't reach travel agent :-/
[14:32] <JanC> Pendulum: let's hope your plane doesn't get stuck  ☺
[14:32] <qense> As long as the air space stays clear for tomorrow.
[14:33] <JanC> I expect no problems for Brussels airspace
[14:33] <nigelbabu> akgraner is supposed to be on that flight, I hope she knows :/
[14:33] <JanC> based on the direction of the wind
[14:40] <Pendulum> okay, just talked to my airline and they currently don't have any plans
[14:40] <Pendulum> (to cancel)
[14:40] <Pendulum> sadly final decision will be after I'll need to have headed to the airport, but we'll see
[14:41] <qense> Someone just twittered he left Salt Lake City Airport.
[14:41] <JanC> heh, Paul Sladen is coming by bike + ferry boat?  ☺
[14:41] <nigelbabu> JanC: yeah, rocking itenary
[14:42] <nigelbabu> JanC: nick barcet is better
[14:42] <nigelbabu> entirely on bike :)
[14:42] <JanC> nigelbabu: taht's somewhat impossible from the UK  ;)
[14:43] <JanC> unless you rent a "water bike" to cross the channel :P
[14:43] <nigelbabu> JanC: or send it via train?
[14:43] <JanC> well, then it's not "entirely by bike"
[14:44] <nigelbabu> hehe :)
[14:44] <JanC> and biking through the Channel Tunnel is not allowed  ;)
[14:45] <nigelbabu> haha
[14:45] <nigelbabu> unless you happen to bribe emergency personnel on both eds
[14:45] <Pendulum> I wish I had an earlier flight so that I didn't have all this wait time now!
[14:45] <Pendulum> I think I'm seriously going to go to the airport waaaay early just so I'm not in my flat
[14:46] <nigelbabu> Pendulum: :)
[14:47] <qense> JanC: Were you planning on attending or not? I keep forgetting. If so, by car or by train?
[14:48] <JanC> qense: I'll be there on mon-tue-wed & fri
[14:48] <qense> You can probably sleep at home. :)
[14:48] <qense> Handy
[14:49] <nigelbabu> lucky
[14:49] <nigelbabu> I wish it were in asia for once
[14:49] <JanC> and by car, but I sleep at my uncle & aunt's place on mon-tue & tue-wed
[14:49] <qense> nigelbabu: In your house!
[14:50] <nigelbabu> qense: haha
[14:50] <JanC> qense: it's a bit too far to sleep at home, especially as the first 3 days are workdays in .be & the traffic around Brussels is killing then  ☺
[14:50] <qense> How much rooms do you have?
[14:50] <nigelbabu> well at least it will be extremely touristy
[14:50] <qense> JanC: Belgiums isn't Luxembourg.
[14:51] <JanC> ?
[14:51] <qense> It's larger
[14:51] <qense> :)
[14:51] <JanC> right, but the main issue is the traffic around Brussels during peak hours
[14:51] <qense> Who doesn't hate rush hour.
[14:52] <cjohnston> o/
[14:52] <JanC> it might take 2h to travel 50km or so, in case of bad luck  ;)
[14:52] <qense> cjohnston! You're still here!
[14:52] <cjohnston> where else would i be
[14:52] <qense> Half the people are flying already.
[14:53] <qense> (Or stuck at the airport )
[14:53] <JanC> people who are used to going to work in brussels told me I should drive to Brussels before 6am   :-/
[14:53] <qense> omg
[14:54] <cjohnston> i dont leave till tomorrow
[14:54] <cjohnston> have a wedding im in tonight
[14:55] <qense> JanC: You can merge the LP account 'janc-lugwv' into your own, did you know that?
[14:55] <JanC> qense: huh?
[14:55] <qense> I was looking for you on Launchpad and saw there were two Jan Claeyses
[14:55] <qense> One as janc-lugwv
[14:55] <qense> was
[14:56] <JanC> I don't even know where that one comes from...
[14:56] <qense> JanC: https://edge.launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge
[14:56] <qense> JanC: translation import, according to LP
[14:56] <JanC> ow, that's possible, maybe
[14:56] <JanC> for some translations I made *ages* ago
[14:57] <JanC> and not in Ubuntu
[14:57] <qense> claim the karma!
[14:57] <nigelbabu> upstream perhaps
[14:57] <JanC> probably my libgtkspell translation
[15:00] <JanC> ugh, and I don't own that mail address anymore
[15:10] <qense> aw
[17:08] <akgraner> hi all
[17:08] <akgraner> Can get to Chicago o'hara  - but on standby for flight tomorrow
[17:09] <nigelbabu> akgraner: good to know
[17:09] <nigelbabu> we heard your flight got cancelled
[17:09] <akgraner> found about an hour ago - flight to London, Paris, Frankfurt, Brussels - closed  - UbuAsh
[17:10] <nigelbabu> ugh!
[17:10] <maco> so basically only the europeans who go by train are making it
[17:10] <maco> oh, and sladen
[17:10] <maco> who i believe is going by ferry
[17:10] <maco> (just because he likes to travel in as convoluted ways as possible)
[17:10] <nigelbabu> dont tell me're all gling to remotely attend frm airports
[17:10] <akgraner> the one today did  - but was able to get last seat standby for a flight out tomorrow from 0'hara providing ash clears
[17:11] <Pendulum> Delta seems to still be running flights
[17:11] <nigelbabu> maco: and the indians :D
[17:11] <bencrisford_> maco: ferries are the best :D
[17:11]  * bencrisford_ dont like flying
[17:11] <Pendulum> (at least from NYC as I'm not cancelled yet)
[17:11] <nigelbabu> vish is going to make it :)
[17:11] <maco> bencrisford_: sladen lives on a boat, so if it involves using somethng less-common than a plane or train, he's probably going for it
[17:12] <nigelbabu> maco: lives on a boat! whoa!
[17:12] <maco> like..i dont know... ferry to one place, bicycle a few towns over on his brompton... then grab an eagle's talons and fly the rest of the way?
[17:12] <nigelbabu> hahaha
[17:12] <bencrisford_> haha
[17:12] <nigelbabu> eagle's talon lol
[17:12] <bencrisford_> ferries aren't that odd, I have got a ferry to france more times than I can recall
[17:12] <bencrisford_> even to spain once
[17:13] <bencrisford_> :)
[17:13] <akgraner> Pendulum, I talked to the airline was told Delta cancelled theirs as well
[17:13] <akgraner> I'm at Charlotte now
[17:13] <maco> i took one from palermo to napoli once. wow that was just /weird/  --- first class = a room full of recliners that dont really recline very far so sleeping is tough and theres no leg room
[17:13] <maco> 2nd class has actual rooms O_o ???
[17:13] <akgraner> might want to actually call them
[17:14] <Pendulum> akgraner: yeah, I think I will. I wonder if it's because it's from NYC and not Chicago?
[17:14] <nigelbabu> italy?
[17:14] <akgraner> Pendulum, American tried to get me on another airline
[17:14] <maco> nigelbabu: yes
[17:14] <nigelbabu> maco: wow
[17:14] <akgraner> are you flying direct?
[17:14] <Pendulum> yeah
[17:14] <nigelbabu> maco: are you sure you didn't confuse 1st and 2nd class :D
[17:14] <maco> also, i didnt think. i only took one book with me, and it was half-read when i left. so by the time we reached italy ... or um actually i think before the plane left the US... i finished
[17:14] <maco> nigelbabu: yes
[17:15] <bencrisford_> :P
[17:15] <maco> (normally i just buy more books while i'm travelling. going to a country where i dont know the language, that doesnt work so great)
[17:15] <nigelbabu> maco: ick, train sounds much better
[17:15] <bencrisford_> whoa, i'd forgotten how slow usb 1.0 was
[17:16] <Pendulum> akgraner: my flight is still okay
[17:16] <akgraner> Pendulum, sweet!
[17:17] <Pendulum> I wonder if flights from NYC use a more southernly route anyway or something
[17:17] <Pendulum> so it might be easier to reroute than things from chicago
[17:18] <akgraner> Pendulum, they tried to route us through JFK today but we were told those flights were cancelled as well :-(
[17:18] <akgraner> I hope you are able to get out
[17:19] <Pendulum> huh, I did just talk to Delta who said they were fine (although overbooked)
[17:19] <JanC> heh, Brussels airport is still open with almost no cancelled flights according to latest news?
[17:20] <Pendulum> also my flight doesn't come from Europe, so dunno if that makes a difference
[17:20] <czajkowski> aloha
[17:20] <akgraner> czajkowski, hey
[17:20] <JanC> they said there were some cancelled flights in Charleroi (aka Brussels South Airport)
[17:20] <akgraner> are you going to make it in?
[17:21] <nigelbabu> czajkowski: already in brussels?
[17:21] <akgraner> JanC,  yeah we were told Brussels was closed for today
[17:21] <Pendulum> akgraner: the airport is definitely still open
[17:21] <Pendulum> (in Brussels)
[17:21] <JanC> akgraner: Brussels airport is definitely *not* closed
[17:22] <JanC> unless that happened during the last minutes somehow  ☺
[17:22] <akgraner> Pendulum, they were telling us for arriving flights after 5pm today
[17:22] <akgraner> so not sure what info all these crazy airlines are getting
[17:22] <akgraner> looks like all information would be the same -  but.. :-(
[17:23] <czajkowski> ireland flights are closed to spain and canaries
[17:23] <czajkowski> so far I've been told to go to the airport
[17:23] <czajkowski> but this *may* change
[17:23] <Pendulum> yeah, I'm still getting told to go to the airport
[17:23] <Pendulum> akgraner: so where are you?
[17:23] <akgraner> Pendulum, Charlotte getting ready to head to 0'hara
[17:23] <Pendulum> ah
[17:24] <Pendulum> from what I've been reading it doesn't even make sense that Belgium would be considering closing airspace :-/
[17:24] <akgraner> in Chicago - then I'm booked on a flight tomorrow arrive Mon morning to Brussels
[17:24] <akgraner> idk - that's just what the airline told me I arrived today
[17:25] <Pendulum> it's also possible that no one really knows what's going on so they're saying what they think is going on rather than what they know for sure ;-)
[17:25] <akgraner> *nods*
[17:25] <czajkowski> Pendulum: the cloud is over 1000KM long and is spreading
[17:26] <czajkowski> so it's depending on the flight path and winds is the issue
[17:26] <maco> akgraner: its after 5pm there...
[17:26] <akgraner> maco flight leaving US after 5pm
[17:26] <czajkowski> aye it's 5:26 here
[17:26] <czajkowski> and they're an hr ahead
[17:27] <Pendulum> huh, my flight is at 7:05 tonight
[17:27] <JanC> 08:00  	Chicago O'Hare  	
[17:27] <JanC> American Airlines 	 AA088
[17:27] <JanC> 	Scheduled 08:00
[17:28] <JanC> so apparently the airlines didn't officially cancel that flight yet at the arriving airport?
[17:28] <maco> akgraner: oh
[17:29] <JanC> czajkowski: meaning planes have to take a northern route over iceland instead of a more southern route?
[17:29] <czajkowski> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation/vaac/data/VAG_1273316351.png
[17:30] <akgraner> JanC, it's cancelled :-)
[17:31] <JanC> akgraner: it was supposed to be cancelled hours ago, so I wonder why they didn't inform the airport authorities in Brussels then...
[17:31] <akgraner> JanC they cancelled it at 7:30am
[17:34] <Pendulum> they need to bring back ocean liners
[17:34] <nigelbabu> hahahah
[17:35] <jussi> lol
[17:35] <czajkowski> jussi: where you now?
[17:35] <jussi> czajkowski: helsinki
[17:35] <jussi> I leave tomorrow
[17:35] <czajkowski> jussi: flight ok?
[17:36] <jussi> czajkowski: haent looked..
[17:36] <jussi> I scared..
[17:37] <nigelbabu> jussi: do you have a train option?
[17:37] <nigelbabu> Just in Case  (tm)
[17:37] <jussi> nigelbabu: not really
[17:37] <jussi> ferry + train.
[17:38] <jussi> similar to those in ireland.
[17:38] <JanC> Pendulum: if you have 3-4 weeks the time, yes  ;)
[17:38] <nigelbabu> jussi: well, much better than nothing
[17:39] <Pendulum> JanC: apparently it only takes 5 days for the Queen Mary 2
[17:39] <Pendulum> hmm... eurocontrol's twitter says Brussels airport will be open tomorrow morning
[17:40] <JanC> it's open all the time
[17:40] <JanC> the problem seems to be how to fly around the ash clouds  ;)
[17:40] <Pendulum> well, specifically, that it will be open at least for flights out
[17:40] <czajkowski> it is brussels international or the other one ?
[17:41] <czajkowski> and wtf is gwibber broken
[17:41] <akgraner> czajkowski, not having troubles with it here
[17:42] <czajkowski> only on this lucid machine
[17:42] <czajkowski> it wont shagging launch
[17:42] <JanC> I think only RyanAir and such fly on Charleroi
[17:42] <czajkowski> and when it eventualy does it's all greyed out
[17:42] <czajkowski> grrrr
[17:42] <czajkowski> JanC: ah ok
[17:43] <JanC> and some other cheap companies & charter flights arrive in Bierset (Liège), Ostend or Antwerp
[17:44] <czajkowski> sitting in the back garden in the sun, heavenly
[17:44] <JanC> heh
[17:44] <JanC> czajkowski: expect 10 °C here  :P
[17:44] <czajkowski> mutters
[17:44] <JanC> and rain almost all week
[17:45] <JanC> I guess that comes with the "no ash clouds here"
[17:45] <Pendulum> heh
[17:45] <czajkowski> ok plan B) relocate UDS to Ireland and flights can get here and there is no rain
[17:45] <Pendulum> czajkowski: transatlantic flights can't
[17:45] <czajkowski> Pendulum: :(
[17:45] <Pendulum> would be worse than Brussels for those of us coming from the US, in fact
[17:45] <Pendulum> Greece, maybe
[17:46] <czajkowski> nah too many riots there
[17:46] <Pendulum> true
[17:46] <Pendulum> was just thinking locations with less ash issues
[17:47] <jussi> Australia!
[17:47] <jussi> *G*
[17:47] <Pendulum> :)
[17:48] <JanC> well, Finland would be fine too  ;)
[17:49] <JanC> http://www.brusselsairport.be/en/flightinfo/arrivals/ for those who want to monitor arrivals
[17:50] <bencrisford_> I don't get why all you US peeps are getting so worked up :P, just swim :)
[17:53] <bencrisford_> I'm gonna go eat something, hope you get all your travel problems sorted :)
[17:57] <Pendulum> thanks
[18:00] <doctormo> Everyone excited
[18:02] <czajkowski> ok pleia2 just tweeted she's boarding
[18:02] <czajkowski> itnet7 is on im and has been told his flight is off till MONDAY
[18:02] <doctormo> you mean dented ;-)
[18:03] <czajkowski> doctormo: no I mean what I said. she tweeted.
[18:03] <doctormo> grumpy pants
[18:03] <czajkowski> doctormo: no, just don't correct me when you'r the one who is wrong :)
[18:04] <Pendulum> czajkowski: he was originally on the same flight as Amber, it looks like. So I wonder if that's when they were first able to book him in next
[18:04] <doctormo> I was wrong
[18:04] <Pendulum> doctormo: we're all worried about not actually making it... it dampens the excitement
[18:04] <pleia2> yeah hopefully i wont get stuck in chicago :)
[18:04] <czajkowski> pleia2: *hugs*
[18:04] <Pendulum> pleia2: did you call to check?
[18:04] <czajkowski> doctormo: that didn't kill you now did it :)
[18:04] <pleia2> hugs :)
[18:05] <doctormo> I'm going to Gwibber my hug, hang on
[18:05] <doctormo> there we go
[18:05] <pleia2> Pen: this is a chicago/brussels flight, wont know unti
[18:05] <pleia2> l chcago :/
[18:05] <Pendulum> pleia2: you couldn't call the airline and ask?
[18:06] <doctormo> Funny I asked specifically for a flight through Heathrow instead of New York
[18:06] <pleia2> its still on as of now
[18:06] <czajkowski> anyone heard from cjohnston
[18:06] <Pendulum> czajkowski: he's at a wedding today
[18:07] <Pendulum> pleia2: okay, so I'm not the only one still getting told their flight is on!
[18:07] <czajkowski> hows his flight looking?
[18:07] <Pendulum> he doesn't fly out until tomorrow
[18:07] <Pendulum> so probably okay for now
[18:13] <JanC> czajkowski: heh, isn't pleia2 flying over Chicago too?
[18:13] <Pendulum> JanC: she's got a connection there
[18:14] <Pendulum> apparently it's that they're greatly limiting flights because of the rerouting that needs to happen
[18:14] <JanC> yeah, I know see her flight number is listed twice in the arrivals
[18:14] <JanC> I now *
[18:15] <jussi> my flight appeas to be ok
[18:15] <JanC> Pendulum: right, so there are traffic jams on the northern fly-route?  ;)
[18:15] <jussi> I just checked in
[18:15] <Pendulum> JanC: southern
[18:15] <Pendulum> they can't fly up because the ash is too dense
[18:15] <Pendulum> err.. fly north
[18:15] <JanC> heh, north of Iceland there is no ash
[18:16] <Pendulum> true
[18:16] <JanC> maybe they can fly on some heights in the southern routes too
[18:17] <czajkowski> DR. WHO!!!
[18:17] <JanC> anyway, traffic jams in the air sounds funny  ☺
[18:17] <Pendulum> one of those times when it's good we don't have our flying cars or jetpacks?
[18:18] <JanC> Pendulum: I doubt those would have any issue, ULM planes and the like never stopped flying either
[18:18] <doctormo> czajkowski: Aye, getting now.
[18:18] <Pendulum> doctormo: so where are you now?
[18:18] <doctormo> Pendulum: Er, Boston.
[18:19] <pleia2> boarding, wish me luck :)
[18:19] <Pendulum> pleia2: will keep fingers and such crossed for you!
[18:19] <doctormo> pleia2: *hug* have a good trip
[18:19] <Pendulum> doctormo: ah. you were talking as if you'd flown and I was getting confused :)
[18:23] <doctormo> Pendulum: No, just checked, looks like my flight is canceled
[18:24] <doctormo> Of course no information from anyone.
[18:24] <Pendulum> doctormo: :(
[18:24] <czajkowski> doctormo: feck
[18:24] <czajkowski> doctormo: when were you due to fly?
[18:25] <doctormo> 7:15pm
[18:26] <Pendulum> doctormo: what airline?
[18:26] <doctormo> AA
[18:26] <doctormo> (this is why I always fly Virgin)
[18:27] <doctormo> flight 108
[18:27] <Pendulum> anyone else notice that so far the flights we know are canceled are AA?
[18:27] <czajkowski> doctormo: I don;t think airlines matter in this case
[18:28] <doctormo> czajkowski: This is my first attempt at flying with AA, they're not impressing me.
[18:28] <Pendulum> either the rest of us are about to get massively screwed over, or AA is getting bumped way down the priority list when it comes to what's being allowed to fly
[18:28] <czajkowski> I don't think it's airline related it's the same flight plan
[18:28] <doctormo> I actually have no idea what I'm supposed to do.
[18:28] <czajkowski> can ye mail your travel agents?
[18:29] <Pendulum> doctormo: call the airline
[18:29] <czajkowski> the advice over here is call your airline
[18:29] <czajkowski> as that's who's dealing with it
[18:36] <JanC> czajkowski: can't you do some celtic rain dance so that the ash gets rained down into the ocean?  ;-)
[18:37] <czajkowski> eh we have sunshine here, it's an odd one .
[18:37] <czajkowski> when we had the rain all our airports were closed.
[18:37] <JanC> czajkowski: if it would rain in Ireland and/or Iceland, that would help to literally "clear the air"
[18:38] <JanC> well supposed the ash clouds are below the rain clouds of course  ☺
[18:49] <doctormo> Airline can't get me on a flight until Monday evening
[18:49] <doctormo> To get into Brusseles tuesday. Bleh, horrid
[18:50] <jussi> doctormo: aww, that sucks!
[18:50] <doctormo> jussi: Sucks is a very light word for what it is
[18:51] <jussi> doctormo: :/
[18:55] <Pendulum> my flight is still supposed to be on
[18:55] <Pendulum> i'm leaving in the next 30 minutes
[18:56] <Pendulum> (for the airport)
[18:57] <Pendulum> (also nice man at Delta is looking up for me info on what Delta is/isn't cancelling)
[18:58] <czajkowski> Pendulum: fingers crossed
[18:58] <czajkowski> Pendulum: you have my mobile number?
[18:58] <Pendulum> okay, Delta just pretty much said that if it isn't going into Glasgow, Shannon, Lisbon, or Madrid, their flights are pretty much happening, if delayed due to rerouting
[18:58] <Pendulum> czajkowski: yes. do you have mind?
[18:58] <Pendulum> *mine
[18:59] <czajkowski> hmm
[18:59] <czajkowski> I know I did
[18:59] <czajkowski> but cannot find it in new phone
[19:03] <doctormo> Just booked a flight for 6pm on BA, $1.6k cost :-(
[19:03] <jussi> doctormo: cripes!
[19:03] <JanC> pff, can't sabdfl fly to the US himself to pick you all up?  ;)
[19:04] <jussi> doctormo: I hope you areflying business...
[19:05] <jussi> JanC: lol, that would e cool
[19:05] <doctormo> premium economy
[19:06] <JanC> "premium economy" sounds like "leg space is 5cm less than I need but I get a 15cl bottle of champagne"
[19:09] <czajkowski> doctormo: lordie that;'s some crazy price
[19:12] <czajkowski> doctormo: is that the airline rebooking or a cost to you/canonical?
[19:16] <doctormo> czajkowski: That's cost to me as far as I know
[19:16] <doctormo> czajkowski: AA were terrible at trying to rebook onto BA
[19:16] <czajkowski> doctormo: ugh,
[19:17] <czajkowski> over here theyre saying if you cancle your flight you can't claim any cash back at all on it
[19:17] <doctormo> Right, AA said they'd refund if I canceled, but I need the Belgium leg of the trip
[19:17] <doctormo> So it looks like I'll eat the cost
[19:18] <cjohnston> czajkowski: yes?
[19:18] <czajkowski> can you not just wait for AA or your travel agent to sort it out
[19:18] <czajkowski> cjohnston: any word on your flight?
[19:18] <cjohnston> ummm... what about it
[19:19] <doctormo> czajkowski: They're idea of sorting it out was to get me there by Wednesday
[19:20] <czajkowski> cjohnston: most USA flights are not taking off
[19:20] <doctormo> their*
[19:20] <Pendulum> czajkowski: it's not most
[19:20] <czajkowski> doctormo: lotta expense tbh.
[19:20] <cjohnston> why
[19:20] <czajkowski> cjohnston: the ash!
[19:20] <Pendulum> cjohnston: there's more ash issues
[19:20] <cjohnston> uggh
[19:20] <doctormo> Damn pokemon!
[19:20] <czajkowski> Pendulum:  a lot...
[19:21] <Pendulum> czajkowski: I've only actually heard of 2 separate flights cancelled
[19:21] <czajkowski> Pendulum: akgraner doctormo itnet7 kev and 2 others
[19:21] <czajkowski> Pendulum: how you getting ti airport?
[19:21] <Pendulum> akgraner and itnet7 were supposed to be on the same flight (I dunno about kev)
[19:21] <Pendulum> czajkowski: taxi
[19:22] <czajkowski> cool
[19:22] <czajkowski> will he come and get your bags?
[19:22] <Pendulum> nope. gotta go flag taxi on the street. can't call and book one in NYC
[19:22] <doctormo> Same in Boston Pendulum
[19:23] <Pendulum> anyway, I'm going to go. see some of you soon, I hope! catch the rest of you online later or tomorrow!
[19:23] <czajkowski> Pendulum: okie dokei
[19:24] <cjohnston> czajkowski: Pendulum mine is still showing on time
[19:26] <doctormo> OK time to go to the airport, suspend and battery don't work so I'll likely be offline until I get there.
[19:26] <cjohnston> bye doctormo
[19:47] <czajkowski> 1. Please contact your airline to check the date and time for your trip
[19:47] <czajkowski> and any connections to see if any of your flight are affected.
[19:47] <czajkowski> 2. If your flight is delayed, you may need to be re-book it - you
[19:47] <czajkowski> should coordinate this with your airline. IMPORTANT NOTE: if you are
[19:47] <czajkowski> unable to arrive at the UDS venue (La Hulpe, Belgium) on or before the
[19:47] <czajkowski> evening of Tue 11th May 2010, do not fly, and instead contact the travel
[19:47] <czajkowski> agent you used to book the ticket with and coordinate a refund.
[19:47] <czajkowski> 3. IMPORTANT: If you are unable to attend UDS, please let me know so we can inform the hotel know to release your room. If you make your flight eventually and your arrival date has changed, please let me know your new date asap.
[19:47] <czajkowski> mail just in folks
[20:15] <qense> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8625813.stm doesn't look promising :(
[20:15] <qense> wait
[20:15] <qense> that's the old map
[20:18] <qense> This is: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8669610.stm
[20:24] <JanC> czajkowski: who's supposed to have got that mail? (maybe i didn't get it because I don't travel by plane?)
[20:25] <JanC> hm, AA088 is still scheduled to arrive at Brussels Airport  :P
[20:27] <JanC> some other flights from the US are marked as delayed (which is better I guess, at least the airlines forwarded info about those...)
[20:28] <qense>  JanC: All sponsored people got the mail.
[20:29] <qense> I know from Twitter that at least Ken van Dine's flight was cancelled.
[20:29] <JanC> ah, might have been more useful to send to people actually taking a plane I suppose...  ;)
[20:29] <qense> or VanDine, I've got no idea how the Americans abuse surnames.
[20:29] <JanC> qense: if he was on AA088, there were 12 peopel on that flight  :-(
[20:30] <qense> JanC: Good news that that flight did fly!
[20:30] <JanC> well, it didn't ;)
[20:30] <JanC> except, Brussels Airport is still expecting it to arrive  ;)
[20:30] <qense> argh
[20:30] <qense> Poor Brussels Airport.
[20:31] <JanC> it's bad management from AA
[21:20] <doctormo> OK at airport, got in to flight on BA and I will get to brussels for tomorrow morning :-)
[21:21] <doctormo> At cost and American were completly useless, I will be sure to avoid them in future.
[21:21] <doctormo> But BA were great, they got me on that final leg from Heathrow.
[21:21] <czajkowski> doctormo: mail was sent from marianna to all UDS attendees
[21:22] <czajkowski> doctormo:
[21:22] <czajkowski>  2. If your flight is delayed, you may need to be re-book it - you
[21:22] <czajkowski> should coordinate this with your airline. IMPORTANT NOTE: if you are
[21:22] <czajkowski> unable to arrive at the UDS venue (La Hulpe, Belgium) on or before the
[21:22] <czajkowski> evening of Tue 11th May 2010, do not fly, and instead contact the travel
[21:22] <czajkowski> agent you used to book the ticket with and coordinate a refund
[22:01] <JanC> sounds like ash cloud issues are getting better
[22:01] <czajkowski> our airports shut tomorrow from 2 in some places and 4 in others
[22:02] <czajkowski> pm
[22:08] <cjohnston> JanC: they are?
[22:08] <cjohnston> someone keep me up to date.. heh
[22:09] <JanC> cjohnston: they said they expect less problems tomorrow
[22:09] <cjohnston> I hope so
[22:10] <cjohnston> ill be upset if i make it to the layover and then stuck
[22:12] <czajkowski> cjohnston: you got the mail from marianna so you know what to do if there is any issues
[22:13] <cjohnston> ya
[22:21] <czajkowski> JanC: is there a Swedish Ubuntu community ?
[22:25] <AlanBell> !se
[22:25] <czajkowski> AlanBell: cheers
[22:27] <qense> afaik there are now cancellations for Amsterdam atm
[22:28] <qense> anyway, I'm off to bed, see you all tomorrow!
[22:28] <czajkowski> nn
[22:39] <czajkowski> yay pleia2 has made it t Chicago
[22:43] <akgraner> I'm in Chicago too
[22:44] <akgraner> czajkowski, is pleia2 still a go for her flight tonight?
[22:44] <cjohnston> im in st pete.. im going backwards!
[22:45] <czajkowski> akgraner: her tweet says she's landed there
[22:45] <akgraner> ahh not checking all that
[22:45] <jussi> cjohnston: where?
[22:45] <cjohnston> st petersberg
[22:45] <cjohnston> florida
[22:45] <akgraner> I forgot to turn my phone off on the plane :-(  gotta charge it
[22:45] <cjohnston> which is west of where i live
[22:45] <jussi> oh lol
[22:46] <cjohnston> bad akgraner !
[22:46] <jussi> I was thinking russia...
[22:46] <akgraner> well it happens
[22:46] <cjohnston> off to go see if i can find a printer
[22:46] <cjohnston> yup
[23:01]  * pleia2 lurks in chicago
[23:01] <pleia2> akgraner: oh, are you at the airport?
[23:01] <akgraner> pleia2, nope :-(
[23:01] <pleia2> aww
[23:01] <akgraner> is your flight still a go?
[23:01] <pleia2> canceled flight?
[23:01] <pleia2> yep, delayed 2 hours though
[23:01] <akgraner> yep
[23:02] <pleia2> was supposed to leave at 6, scheduled to go out at 8
[23:02] <pleia2> so I get to hang out here for 3 hours or so