[07:09] aloha [07:20] hello czajkowski, when do you fly? (do you?) [07:32] tomorrow [07:32] 6:20am [08:02] good morning all! [08:03] jussi: howdy [08:03] hiya czajkowski, excited to be leaving soon? [08:03] czajkowski: dont forget my tinwhistle! [08:03] tomorrow morning [08:04] 90 min flight [08:04] jussi: tin whistle is packed my dear [08:04] excellent :D [08:35] I leave today at 7:30pm, get there for 11am [11:13] I guess a lot of folks are in air or bound to airport today [11:17] tomorrow for me [11:18] but going on the train [11:18] AlanBell: wow! [11:18] * nigelb <3 trains [11:18] AlanBell: I'm so so jealous :D [11:18] going through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Tunnel [11:19] brbr [11:23] AlanBell: how long is the ride? [11:25] AlanBell: I'm jealous you're getting to train. I really liked the Eurostar the time I took it [11:25] Pendulum: free at last huh? [11:25] nigelb: no idea, I think we have plans for a podcast recording to pass the time [11:26] AlanBell: wow, rocking :) [11:26] * nigelb really needs to get down and renew passport [11:26] Pendulum: planes are good too [11:27] although long flights are hard work [11:27] I dnno, there is something about trains that I love [11:27] they are, but given the choice I'd go with the Eurostar (admittedly I also ended up in first class on a cheap ticket because there are only 2 wheelchair spots on the train and the other was already booked) [11:28] I hope you get well looked after on the plane [11:28] who are you flying with? [11:29] Delta [11:29] AlanBell: you, popey, and daviey? [11:29] which could be okay or could be horrible [11:31] mostly annoyed because I really wanted to sleep in this morning as I don't sleep on flights, and instead my body decided that this was late enough and I've not gotten loads of sleep :( [11:31] what time is the flight? [11:31] 7PM tonight [11:32] how much of a TZ difference do you land up in? [11:32] I think someone has broken https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-M/Attendees [11:32] its displaying okay for me so far [11:33] there is a second arrivals and departure section [11:33] with different data [11:33] ouch [11:34] ugh, transatlantic flights are expected to run 90-120 minutes late today due to ash :( [11:35] and that's not "late" as in leave late, but "late" as in be that much longer [11:35] you will still be there well before me [11:35] oh, slower [11:35] yes, but it means potentially 10.5 hours in flight instead of 8.5 [11:35] yeah, they're having to reroute around it, I guess [11:36] and I'm always first on and last off so figure I could be on a plane for close to 12 hours [11:36] they have to divert south from the great circle route to go round it [11:36] well, at least better than being grounded at least [11:37] yeah. i'm glad i was already planning on taking loads of pain medication [11:38] Pendulum: make sure you have your prescriptions with you [11:38] * nigelb was just about to say that [11:38] jussi: you're flying or taking a train? [11:38] flying [11:38] tomorrow [11:38] jussi: I know. And I never remove from the prescription bottles (which also have it written on it) as well [11:38] ahh, yeah [11:39] jussi: btw, I entered your channel out of curiousity ;) No big deal [11:39] * jussi almost got done for drug running with morphine... [11:39] I don't have morphine :( [11:39] nigelb: i was asking how you found it [11:39] jussi: well, I have this script that does a whois on whoever PM's me [11:39] yes... but I have +i set... ? [11:39] yeah, it wasn't you :p [11:40] nigelb slightly stalkerish [11:40] oh, mind telling me who so I can slap them into +i? :P [11:40] czajkowski: it was entirely innocent. someone told me its a nice script to have [11:40] mind, I can guess who... [11:40] but I know one of my meds isn't available in europe at all (and if they confiscate it, I'm screwed since we're in Belgium and not Holland since the non-synthetic version of the same chemical is cannabis ;-) ) [11:40] jussi: you should be able to guess whom I might PM on *that* list ;) [11:40] Pendulum: What's the med? [11:40] nigelb ah tis [11:41] qense: marinol. it's a synthetic THC [11:41] czajkowski: like some random person pm's you and you want to associate with what the heck he/she is talking about [11:41] You could quickly jump the border and fetch some. :) [11:41] Although there have been crack-downs on drug tourism lately, tourists cause almost all problems. [11:41] qense: I am aware that if I absolutely had to I could. Just would be a PITA. [11:42] Pendulum: It would be odd if they'd confiscate it. Do you have papers for them? [11:42] * nigelb had to google for PITA [11:42] Pita bread! [11:42] jussi: sorry I stalked your channel though :/ [11:42] nigelb i get a lot of random pm being freenode staffer [11:42] czajkowski: yeah, I get a lot during classroom sessions or during patch day [11:42] qense: yeah. so I think I should be okay. just a little paranoid because it's the main thing I have to manage pain. [11:42] I had to take a Schengen Declaration with me for my medication when I went to Greece (inside Schengen-area), but I was never asked to show it. [11:43] yeah, I've never actually been questioned on meds anywhere [11:43] back later [11:43] Pendulum: they'll most probably not ask you [11:43] nigelb: no problems, not much happens there, just was curious how you came acoss it. [11:43] I just get paranoid because of how bad it would be if they did decide it wasn't acceptable [11:43] jussi: hehe, btw a lot of people have the ## channel [11:44] yup [11:44] * nigelb doesn't [11:44] too many channels, irssi doesn't have enough space until end of UDS [11:45] heh [11:45] I'm already in 15 channels on Freenode and in 7 on GIMPNet and the UDS hasn't even started yet. [11:45] oh grr, when I /whois my other nick, I can't see what channels its on [11:46] well, at least the +i works great :D [11:49] AlanBell: bah, its only 2 hours [11:49] I suspect UDS is going to be the first time I'll really ever wish I ran irssi in a screen [11:50] Pendulum: you don't run it off a server? [11:51] nigelb: nope [11:52] Pendulum: screen is mostly useful when its running on a server and you keep connecting to the same session [11:52] when its only on your laptop, not really that useful, you can always open another terminal, not possible on a server though [11:52] I know. This is why I don't run screen [11:53] Pendulum: chris offered me a user on his vps to run irssi :) [11:54] I could probably set it up on a friend's server, but I've not asked if he'd be cool with my setting it up on it, and he hasn't offered and it's too late to ask now :) [11:55] Pendulum: you can ask a lot of folks around, they'd be happy to set it up for you :) [11:57] channels.... hrm, Im in like... errr... 70ish? [11:58] * nigelb bows [11:58] jussi: ever used putty? [11:58] (the ssh thingy) [11:59] oh, hang on,its more like 110... [11:59] nigelb: yes... [11:59] jussi: can I PM, I need help with that [11:59] nigelb: Im quite busy at the moment, do they not have a support channel? [12:00] jussi: no clue [12:01] /msg alis help [12:01] nigelb: ^^^^ [12:01] ok [12:10] yaay!, it works [12:10] I fianlly managed to ssh into my irssi session [12:28] Pendulum: you can run screen on one of my servers if you like [13:00] Guys, you did all notice ubuntulog is now idling in this channel as well? === jussi changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Welcome to the Community Team || ROCK THIS: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-community.html - DONE Makes Bacon a Happy Boy || This Channel is logged || [13:14] qense: i do beleive it was asked to come in. [13:14] I did [13:14] With Jono's approval, of course. [13:15] qense: ok, please make sure the channel topic gets updated if you do that in any other channels. we have a legal oblgation to notify people on join that they are being logged. [13:15] jussi: I didn't know that, thank you for doing it. [13:15] I hope the people idling yesterday won't sue. [13:16] and let me know if you see any cahnnels that are logged without an appropriate topic or entry message [13:16] qense: :D [13:16] jussi: Will do, thank you for pointing me at it! [14:11] Dammit! More airspace troubles because of ash. [14:11] But the pictures at Iceland! They look so awesome. [14:12] I mean, look at this: [14:12] Amsterdam Airport said that travellers to North-America and South-Europe should expect delays and even cancellations. [14:16] (_maybe_ even cancellations) [14:17] yeah, i'm getting nervous [14:17] looking at cloud maps it looks like Amsterdam, Brussels & London airports are safe for now, I'm not so sure about Paris (but I'm not a meteorologist ;) ) [14:17] I can't decide whether I wish my flight was earlier or later [14:19] clouds are blowing NE to SW over Belgium currently, while blowing the other way over Spain & (part of) France [14:20] and currently airports are closing in teh north of Portugal & Spain and south of France... [14:21] yes [14:23] nigelbabu: ^^ do you want to say what you just told me? [14:23] well, someone had their chicago -> brussels flight cancelled [14:24] * nigelbabu goes to hunt for scroll back in -devel [14:24] The ash came back just a bit too early. [14:24] I'm happy I'm going by train and I've already got my ticket; no ash troubles for me. [14:24] I wish it would hold until Monday [14:25] I don't really care if I get stuck *in* Brussels [14:25] scott ritchie i suppose (YoKoZar) [14:25] qense: unless it's a steam train ;) [14:26] JanC: It is the NS after all, who knows. ;) [14:26] oh dear, if your'e right, then that's a whole bunch of people [14:27] (I count 12 people on that flight according to the wiki) [14:27] Pendulum: he rescheudled to paris and then train to brussels ;) [14:27] aw [14:27] ouch, 12 people [14:27] hopefully the rest can, too. I know at least one is probably at the airport already for flight to Chicago [14:28] nigelbabu: there are no assh problems in Brussels for the moment, but maybe his plane got stuck in Spain or Portugal or such... [14:28] JanC: dunno, I just heard in -devel when trying to catch who pinged me [14:29] nigelbabu: I know, read what he told [14:29] JanC: so, all those people will be affected right? [14:29] huh, according to the website for the airline, the flight is still happening [14:29] I guess the airline companies will try to reschedule them somehow [14:30] oh, wait, I take that back [14:30] it's cancelled [14:30] Pendulum: any reason given? [14:30] nope [14:30] just says cancelled [14:30] and it's not until this afternoon [14:30] Microsoft offered them some money? [14:31] (like the flight wasn't even supposed to depart Chicago for another 7 hours) [14:31] JanC: lol [14:32] Pendulum: sounds like thay know their plane is stuck somewhere and won't be in Chicago in time for the flight [14:32] that's what I'm hoping [14:32] frustrating that this is a saturday so probably can't reach travel agent :-/ [14:32] Pendulum: let's hope your plane doesn't get stuck ☺ [14:32] As long as the air space stays clear for tomorrow. [14:33] I expect no problems for Brussels airspace [14:33] akgraner is supposed to be on that flight, I hope she knows :/ [14:33] based on the direction of the wind [14:40] okay, just talked to my airline and they currently don't have any plans [14:40] (to cancel) [14:40] sadly final decision will be after I'll need to have headed to the airport, but we'll see [14:41] Someone just twittered he left Salt Lake City Airport. [14:41] heh, Paul Sladen is coming by bike + ferry boat? ☺ [14:41] JanC: yeah, rocking itenary [14:42] JanC: nick barcet is better [14:42] entirely on bike :) [14:42] nigelbabu: taht's somewhat impossible from the UK ;) [14:43] unless you rent a "water bike" to cross the channel :P [14:43] JanC: or send it via train? [14:43] well, then it's not "entirely by bike" [14:44] hehe :) [14:44] and biking through the Channel Tunnel is not allowed ;) [14:45] haha [14:45] unless you happen to bribe emergency personnel on both eds [14:45] I wish I had an earlier flight so that I didn't have all this wait time now! [14:45] I think I'm seriously going to go to the airport waaaay early just so I'm not in my flat [14:46] Pendulum: :) [14:47] JanC: Were you planning on attending or not? I keep forgetting. If so, by car or by train? [14:48] qense: I'll be there on mon-tue-wed & fri [14:48] You can probably sleep at home. :) [14:48] Handy [14:49] lucky [14:49] I wish it were in asia for once [14:49] and by car, but I sleep at my uncle & aunt's place on mon-tue & tue-wed [14:49] nigelbabu: In your house! [14:50] qense: haha [14:50] qense: it's a bit too far to sleep at home, especially as the first 3 days are workdays in .be & the traffic around Brussels is killing then ☺ [14:50] How much rooms do you have? [14:50] well at least it will be extremely touristy [14:50] JanC: Belgiums isn't Luxembourg. [14:51] ? [14:51] It's larger [14:51] :) [14:51] right, but the main issue is the traffic around Brussels during peak hours [14:51] Who doesn't hate rush hour. [14:52] o/ [14:52] it might take 2h to travel 50km or so, in case of bad luck ;) [14:52] cjohnston! You're still here! [14:52] where else would i be [14:52] Half the people are flying already. [14:53] (Or stuck at the airport ) [14:53] people who are used to going to work in brussels told me I should drive to Brussels before 6am :-/ [14:53] omg [14:54] i dont leave till tomorrow [14:54] have a wedding im in tonight [14:55] JanC: You can merge the LP account 'janc-lugwv' into your own, did you know that? [14:55] qense: huh? [14:55] I was looking for you on Launchpad and saw there were two Jan Claeyses [14:55] One as janc-lugwv [14:55] was [14:56] I don't even know where that one comes from... [14:56] JanC: https://edge.launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge [14:56] JanC: translation import, according to LP [14:56] ow, that's possible, maybe [14:56] for some translations I made *ages* ago [14:57] and not in Ubuntu [14:57] claim the karma! [14:57] upstream perhaps [14:57] probably my libgtkspell translation [15:00] ugh, and I don't own that mail address anymore [15:10] aw [17:08] hi all [17:08] Can get to Chicago o'hara - but on standby for flight tomorrow [17:09] akgraner: good to know [17:09] we heard your flight got cancelled [17:09] found about an hour ago - flight to London, Paris, Frankfurt, Brussels - closed - UbuAsh [17:10] ugh! [17:10] so basically only the europeans who go by train are making it [17:10] oh, and sladen [17:10] who i believe is going by ferry [17:10] (just because he likes to travel in as convoluted ways as possible) [17:10] dont tell me're all gling to remotely attend frm airports [17:10] the one today did - but was able to get last seat standby for a flight out tomorrow from 0'hara providing ash clears [17:11] Delta seems to still be running flights [17:11] maco: and the indians :D [17:11] maco: ferries are the best :D [17:11] * bencrisford_ dont like flying [17:11] (at least from NYC as I'm not cancelled yet) [17:11] vish is going to make it :) [17:11] bencrisford_: sladen lives on a boat, so if it involves using somethng less-common than a plane or train, he's probably going for it [17:12] maco: lives on a boat! whoa! [17:12] like..i dont know... ferry to one place, bicycle a few towns over on his brompton... then grab an eagle's talons and fly the rest of the way? [17:12] hahaha [17:12] haha [17:12] eagle's talon lol [17:12] ferries aren't that odd, I have got a ferry to france more times than I can recall [17:12] even to spain once [17:13] :) [17:13] Pendulum, I talked to the airline was told Delta cancelled theirs as well [17:13] I'm at Charlotte now [17:13] i took one from palermo to napoli once. wow that was just /weird/ --- first class = a room full of recliners that dont really recline very far so sleeping is tough and theres no leg room [17:13] 2nd class has actual rooms O_o ??? [17:13] might want to actually call them [17:14] akgraner: yeah, I think I will. I wonder if it's because it's from NYC and not Chicago? [17:14] italy? [17:14] Pendulum, American tried to get me on another airline [17:14] nigelbabu: yes [17:14] maco: wow [17:14] are you flying direct? [17:14] yeah [17:14] maco: are you sure you didn't confuse 1st and 2nd class :D [17:14] also, i didnt think. i only took one book with me, and it was half-read when i left. so by the time we reached italy ... or um actually i think before the plane left the US... i finished [17:14] nigelbabu: yes [17:15] :P [17:15] (normally i just buy more books while i'm travelling. going to a country where i dont know the language, that doesnt work so great) [17:15] maco: ick, train sounds much better [17:15] whoa, i'd forgotten how slow usb 1.0 was [17:16] akgraner: my flight is still okay [17:16] Pendulum, sweet! [17:17] I wonder if flights from NYC use a more southernly route anyway or something [17:17] so it might be easier to reroute than things from chicago [17:18] Pendulum, they tried to route us through JFK today but we were told those flights were cancelled as well :-( [17:18] I hope you are able to get out [17:19] huh, I did just talk to Delta who said they were fine (although overbooked) [17:19] heh, Brussels airport is still open with almost no cancelled flights according to latest news? [17:20] also my flight doesn't come from Europe, so dunno if that makes a difference [17:20] aloha [17:20] czajkowski, hey [17:20] they said there were some cancelled flights in Charleroi (aka Brussels South Airport) [17:20] are you going to make it in? [17:21] czajkowski: already in brussels? [17:21] JanC, yeah we were told Brussels was closed for today [17:21] akgraner: the airport is definitely still open [17:21] (in Brussels) [17:21] akgraner: Brussels airport is definitely *not* closed [17:22] unless that happened during the last minutes somehow ☺ [17:22] Pendulum, they were telling us for arriving flights after 5pm today [17:22] so not sure what info all these crazy airlines are getting [17:22] looks like all information would be the same - but.. :-( [17:23] ireland flights are closed to spain and canaries [17:23] so far I've been told to go to the airport [17:23] but this *may* change [17:23] yeah, I'm still getting told to go to the airport [17:23] akgraner: so where are you? [17:23] Pendulum, Charlotte getting ready to head to 0'hara [17:23] ah [17:24] from what I've been reading it doesn't even make sense that Belgium would be considering closing airspace :-/ [17:24] in Chicago - then I'm booked on a flight tomorrow arrive Mon morning to Brussels [17:24] idk - that's just what the airline told me I arrived today [17:25] it's also possible that no one really knows what's going on so they're saying what they think is going on rather than what they know for sure ;-) [17:25] *nods* [17:25] Pendulum: the cloud is over 1000KM long and is spreading [17:26] so it's depending on the flight path and winds is the issue [17:26] akgraner: its after 5pm there... [17:26] maco flight leaving US after 5pm [17:26] aye it's 5:26 here [17:26] and they're an hr ahead [17:27] huh, my flight is at 7:05 tonight [17:27] 08:00 Chicago O'Hare [17:27] American Airlines AA088 [17:27] Scheduled 08:00 [17:28] so apparently the airlines didn't officially cancel that flight yet at the arriving airport? [17:28] akgraner: oh [17:29] czajkowski: meaning planes have to take a northern route over iceland instead of a more southern route? [17:29] http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation/vaac/data/VAG_1273316351.png [17:30] JanC, it's cancelled :-) [17:31] akgraner: it was supposed to be cancelled hours ago, so I wonder why they didn't inform the airport authorities in Brussels then... [17:31] JanC they cancelled it at 7:30am [17:34] they need to bring back ocean liners [17:34] hahahah [17:35] lol [17:35] jussi: where you now? [17:35] czajkowski: helsinki [17:35] I leave tomorrow [17:35] jussi: flight ok? [17:36] czajkowski: haent looked.. [17:36] I scared.. [17:37] jussi: do you have a train option? [17:37] Just in Case (tm) [17:37] nigelbabu: not really [17:37] ferry + train. [17:38] similar to those in ireland. [17:38] Pendulum: if you have 3-4 weeks the time, yes ;) [17:38] jussi: well, much better than nothing [17:39] JanC: apparently it only takes 5 days for the Queen Mary 2 [17:39] hmm... eurocontrol's twitter says Brussels airport will be open tomorrow morning [17:40] it's open all the time [17:40] the problem seems to be how to fly around the ash clouds ;) [17:40] well, specifically, that it will be open at least for flights out [17:40] it is brussels international or the other one ? [17:41] and wtf is gwibber broken [17:41] czajkowski, not having troubles with it here [17:42] only on this lucid machine [17:42] it wont shagging launch [17:42] I think only RyanAir and such fly on Charleroi [17:42] and when it eventualy does it's all greyed out [17:42] grrrr [17:42] JanC: ah ok [17:43] and some other cheap companies & charter flights arrive in Bierset (Liège), Ostend or Antwerp [17:44] sitting in the back garden in the sun, heavenly [17:44] heh [17:44] czajkowski: expect 10 °C here :P [17:44] mutters [17:44] and rain almost all week [17:45] I guess that comes with the "no ash clouds here" [17:45] heh [17:45] ok plan B) relocate UDS to Ireland and flights can get here and there is no rain [17:45] czajkowski: transatlantic flights can't [17:45] Pendulum: :( [17:45] would be worse than Brussels for those of us coming from the US, in fact [17:45] Greece, maybe [17:46] nah too many riots there [17:46] true [17:46] was just thinking locations with less ash issues [17:47] Australia! [17:47] *G* [17:47] :) [17:48] well, Finland would be fine too ;) [17:49] http://www.brusselsairport.be/en/flightinfo/arrivals/ for those who want to monitor arrivals [17:50] I don't get why all you US peeps are getting so worked up :P, just swim :) [17:53] I'm gonna go eat something, hope you get all your travel problems sorted :) [17:57] thanks [18:00] Everyone excited [18:02] ok pleia2 just tweeted she's boarding [18:02] itnet7 is on im and has been told his flight is off till MONDAY [18:02] you mean dented ;-) [18:03] doctormo: no I mean what I said. she tweeted. [18:03]