[01:27] <isaac_> I have a nit-picky, "I'm afraid to do this until I know what I'm doing" question about Ubuntu Studio.  See I've never installed (successfully) from an alternate install cd before.  My question is, will it install to a flash drive instead of the internal hard drive, and will it write GRUB to the flash drive?
[01:37] <zus> hello
[01:38] <zus> i went to the ubuntu-studio page and was looking for the download for 10.4 i386. all i found was the dvd, is there a cd iso?
[01:50] <zus> is there dvd download the only available option for ubuntu studio?
[02:11] <isaac_> zus the Ubuntu regular distro only barely fits on a CD.
[02:12] <isaac_> With all the extra stuff Ubuntu Studio has, a DVD is as small as it gets.
[02:13] <zus> isaac_,  do i burn it to dvd the same as cd?
[02:16] <zus> isaac_,  thank you. im going to have to wait on some dvd.s then.
[02:26] <isaac_> Yes, you essentially burn an image DVD instead of an image CD.
[02:26] <isaac_> But unlike Ubuntu, Ubuntu Studio won't boot up a live environment from the disk.  It will only give a text installer.
[02:26] <zus> thanks. by the way whats the size of the image?
[02:28] <isaac_> 1.7 gigabytes when I downloaded it.
[02:29] <zus> thanks. project tonight = make space
[02:33] <isaac_> More space than you know.  You can't run it from the DVD, you have to install it on the hard drive.  And 1.7 gigabytes is compressed.  Installed it's larger.
[02:34] <isaac_> I'm about to see if it will install to a flash drive.  I have three 8 gigabyte flash drives floating around, might as well use one of them for an install.  Ubuntu will do it, no reason Ubuntu Studio should not be able to.
[02:35] <zus> i'm using a 20gig hdd with 10windows and 10 kubuntu...
[02:36] <isaac_> Uh... how much RAM?
[02:36] <zus> 2 gigs
[02:37] <isaac_> Odd.  Usually a hard drive that small would be on a computer with much less RAM.
[02:37] <zus> i pulled the hdd from an old compaq my 250 is my home and its full atm
[02:37] <isaac_> The only reason I mention it is, I was thinking with a hard drive that small you probably wouldn't be able to run Ubuntu Studio with that little RAM.  But if you have 2 gigs, never mind.
[02:39] <isaac_> Well if it were me, I'd delete Kubuntu and try Ubuntu Studio.  But I've never been a big fan of Kubuntu, so that's just me.
[02:39] <isaac_> You could turn Kubuntu into Ubuntu Studio though.  apt-get install...
[02:44] <zus> isaac_,  that would install everything from ubuntu-studios?
[02:46] <isaac_> apt-get install is a command line method of installing programs.  If you install all the programs in Ubuntu Studio and configure them appropriately, you will essentially have Ubuntu Studio.
[02:46] <isaac_> There's a faq webpage on how to turn Ubuntu into Ubuntu Studio.
[02:47] <isaac_> Including default setup for Jack, the low-latency sound server.
[02:48] <zus> i've bookmarked the webpage is it under the wiki or support links?
[02:49] <isaac_> Hmmm... it seems that page is under construction for the latest Ubuntu.  You can look at it anyway, but I'd say wait before using the steps it outlines.  Here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[02:54] <zus> thanks, i use abletonLIVE on windows, cant wait to try this on
[02:55] <isaac_> Oh gag...
[02:56] <isaac_> Sorry, reflex.  I had a bad experience with Ableton, very bad audio.  But it seems very popular so my experience was probably a configuration error on my part.
[02:57] <isaac_> I use Reaper as my primary DAW in Windows.  In a Linux environment I use LMMS.
[02:57] <zus> i prefer reason to ableton but the guy who installed them used magicdisc and eventually reason asked for a cd
[02:59] <isaac_> hehehe
[03:00] <zus> i didnt like lmms as much as i though i would...but i also havent used it as long as i have reason or ableton. and never  tried reaper...
[03:01] <zus> i wanted to break away from windows, but i havent found program i like enough to make ambient music on outside of windows
[03:01] <isaac_> Give Reaper a shot.  It's "uncrippled, nonexpiring shareware," which means you can use it forever without paying for it but it is technically illegal and you really should pay the $50 for it.
[03:01] <isaac_> Ambient is easy.  Load a few pads and a lead, maybe some rhythm loops.
[03:02] <isaac_> For the record I did in fact pay for Reaper.  Yes, I'm too honest for my own good.  It was worth the $50. :)
[03:03] <isaac_> Gotta go.  Good luck, whichever way you decide to go.
[03:03] <zus> thank you have a good night
[03:17] <cjdevlin> i had a question about whether or not a pinnacle 710 usb video capture device would be usable w/ ubuntu. i checked the kino docs and it referenced linux1394.org, but that site seems to be defunct. can anyone please point me in the right direction?
[03:25] <holstein> hey cjdevlin
[03:25] <holstein> what are you running now?
[03:25] <holstein> windows?
[03:26] <holstein> i would just try a liveCD
[03:26] <holstein> normal lucid vanilla live CD
[03:26] <holstein> and run lsusb and lspci
[03:27] <holstein> in my experience, even if i read it, i want to see it happening on my computer
[03:27] <holstein> all it takes is a kernel update, and you can loose support for an older device
[03:31] <holstein> cjdevlin: im at http://www.mepislovers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=24002
[03:31] <holstein> mepis is debian based too
[03:31] <holstein> doesnt look good for linux support
[03:31] <cjdevlin> i have 8.04 LTS on my laptop
[03:31] <cjdevlin> but the video is working on an xp box
[03:31] <holstein> http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacle_Studio_700
[03:32] <holstein> its not going to hurt to plug it in and try it
[03:33] <holstein> but i dont think one was written for it, and i dought anyone will write anything for it now
[03:44] <cjdevlin> ok thanks. that 700 isn't the usb one
[03:47] <holstein> i think its refering to the 700 series, but im not sure
[03:55] <cjdevlin> i tried plugging it in, but nothing comes up
[03:55] <cjdevlin> is there some way for me to see what the os 'thinks' is connected to the comp?
[03:56] <cjdevlin> b/c the pinnacle daxxles work
[03:56] <cjdevlin> dazzles*
[08:27] <MXGamer101> hello!
[08:28] <MXGamer101> anyone available for a technical support question?
[08:40] <jussi> MXGamer101: just ask, and see :)
[08:40] <jussi> brb though
[08:45] <MXGamer101> having a little bit of an issue with the installation of ubuntu studio
[08:45] <MXGamer101> i cant seem to install the bootloader
[08:45] <MXGamer101> the entire process goes fine until it requests for either GRUB2 or LILO, neither of which seem to want to install
[08:50] <jussi> MXGamer101: curious. what kind of pc you have? did you check the disk befoe hand?
[08:52] <MXGamer101> custom built PC, setup has 2x 500GB hds in Raid0 and 1x 1TB hd. Ubuntu Studio was installed on the Raid0 setup partitioned currently as 800gb(win7) and 100gb(ubuntu)
[08:53] <MXGamer101> or 93.4 for ubuntuand 4gb swa, showing from windows 7 dissk manager
[08:56] <jussi> ahh, sounds like it cant install grub because of your "interesting" raid setup. Im not really sure on how to fix this, but you could ask in the generic #ubuntu channel also.
[08:57] <MXGamer101> hmm, okay, thanks! =)
[09:55] <Esox> Hello I'm on 10.04 and have a ffado mixer issue : somehow the connection to the dbus-service of FFADO couldn't be established
[09:55] <Esox> FFADO and jackd work ok on the MOTU 828 mkII
[10:12] <astraljava> Esox: Is there an error message? Can you pastebin it, please?
[10:24] <tjingboem> after i log in it takes 30 seconds before i can actually use the system. can i speed up this process?
[10:37] <astraljava> tjingboem: You might wanna ask that in #ubuntu, people are currently tweaking their systems regarding boot up speed, so more experience there.
[10:38] <tjingboem> astraljava, right. it is quite possible that this is not a ubuntustudio issue but a ubuntu one. i'll ask there! thanks!
[10:57] <tjingboem> nvidia-driver works with 2.6.32-21-preempt but not with 2.6.32-22-preempt. what must i change?
[11:04] <astraljava> tjingboem: How did you install the drivers? From ubuntu repositories, or from nvidia website?
[11:06] <tjingboem> ubuntustudio with 2.6.32-21-preempt asked me if i wanted to use the nvidiadriver and i said yes.  there i have twinview
[11:06] <tjingboem> but updatung to 2.6.32-22-preempt nvidia seems to be gone
[11:07] <tjingboem> when i look at "hardware drivers" i can see it is still activated thuogh
[11:08] <tjingboem> and my xorg.conf has not changed
[11:12] <tjingboem> okay, i am going back to 2.6.32-21-preempt now...
[11:19] <astraljava> tjingboem: You can reinstall the package that provides the driver, might help, but I'm not sure though.
[11:20] <tjingboem> i'll stick with .21 for yhe moment if there are not very important improvements
[11:20] <tjingboem> i still have other things to figure out
[11:20] <astraljava> tjingboem: Haven't followed the lucid updates, as I don't have it installed on any machine yet.
[11:21] <tjingboem> i have 2 soundcards. how can i choose one in Totem?
[11:21] <tjingboem> thanks astraljava for your effort
[11:22] <tjingboem> i am always updating, just can not help myself :)
[11:22] <astraljava> np. :) Yeah, I would too if I wasn't building the house at the same time. :)
[11:23] <Esox> astraljava: the error message is the one I gave
[11:23] <tjingboem> i'm quite happy with .21 for the moment, no x-runs yet
[11:24] <astraljava> tjingboem: Oh, the way I usually deal with nvidia is by installing envy-ng. But then you definitely need to reinstall every time a kernel update is concluded.
[11:24] <tjingboem> ah, didnot know that
[11:26] <astraljava> Esox: You mean "somehow the connection to the dbus-service of FFADO couldn't be established" ?
[11:27] <astraljava> Esox: Nothing more specific?
[11:31] <tjingboem> i have 2 soundcards. how can i choose one in Totem?
[11:32] <tjingboem> i guess i must choose with the pulsaudio volume control
[11:32] <tjingboem> lol, works
[11:35] <tjingboem> is the envy mixer i used with my Maudio card become obsolete with pulsaudio?
[11:39] <astraljava> tjingboem: I can't find anything with envy in the lucid archives, so I suppose so...
[11:40] <tjingboem> well, as long as the new system works i have no problem with it
[11:41] <tjingboem> have to go, astraljava, thanks and see you
[11:41] <astraljava> tjingboem: No prob, see ya later.
[11:47] <astraljava> Esox: Sorry, I can't find much talk on the 'net with that error message. Maybe you should post an email to the mailing list, and see whether you reach someone knowledgeable that way?
[13:18] <icon_x> hello everyone
[13:19] <icon_x> i need help about setting up and installing fst for using vst plugins, is there anybody online that has set up fst for ubuntu studio??
[13:26] <astraljava> icon_x: There's a dated how-to here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=557466
[13:26] <astraljava> icon_x: Don't know how much has changed since then.
[13:27] <icon_x> thank you
[13:27] <astraljava> icon_x: The author is still involved with the project, though, and with the same nick here in IRC, so ask around if that how-to won't work.
[13:27] <icon_x> i am new to irc
[13:27] <icon_x> how can i find someone in irc
[13:28] <astraljava> icon_x: Whenever you come here, just check the names of the people who are on the channel. If you see stochastic here, ping him by typing his nick first on the line.
[13:29] <icon_x> oh we are writing nicks manually
[13:29] <astraljava> icon_x: Don't know what IRC client you use, but with irssi it happens by typing a few chars and hitting tab, which auto-completes the nick for you.
[13:29] <icon_x> nice
[16:40] <Esox> astraljava: thanks
[18:05] <_pg_> does anyone know how I can get all my precious typefaces from osx (fontbook) to Ubuntu Lucid?
[18:17] <astraljava> _pg_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-371911.html
[18:17] <astraljava> _pg_: Second hit in google: "os x fonts to linux"
[18:18] <_pg_> astraljava: ;}
[18:18] <astraljava> _pg_: :D Granted, that's probably not with Lucid, but try it out anyway.
[18:21] <_pg_> astraljava: I will when I get home. thanks.
[19:15] <naptastic> For audio production, what advantage does Ubuntu Studio offer over stock Ubuntu 10.04? I'm compiling most all of my apps myself.
[19:16] <jussi> naptastic: the real time kernel
[19:16] <jussi> !rt
[19:16] <ubottu> The RT kernel is the Ubuntu kernel with a realtime preemption patch applied. It is included in Ubuntu Studio by default. For more information please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime/
[19:27] <naptastic> jussi, thanks. Is the Ubuntu Studio realtime kernel different / better than the one available in the regular Ubuntu repository via apt-get install linux-rt?
[19:28] <astraljava> naptastic: It's the same. Ubuntu Studio uses all the same components available in the standard Ubuntu repositories.
[19:29] <naptastic> astraljava, thanks. I am running the -rt kernel right now...
[19:56] <boch_> Hi, i have installed Lucid Lynx in my desktop and i want to use a real time kernel like UbuntuStudio does, without having to reinstall the whole system again. Is it possible? Is there some repository or package for realtime kernel ?
[19:57] <naptastic> boch_, you should be able to do this: sudo apt-get install linux-rt
[19:58] <boch_> naptastic, that will be great, thank you