[00:01] <bodom> scott_j: folder view widget
[00:01] <scott_j> bodom: same thing
[00:02] <scott_j> i hovered my mouse over for some time, but it did not show the folder contents
[00:02] <scott_j> is this  bug ?
[00:02] <bodom> scott_j: my folder view widget does that, maybe you have this functionality disabled on preferences?
[00:03] <scott_j> bodom : where can i enable that ?
[00:03] <bodom> scott_j: right click on widget's background, then choose "settings" on the context menu
[00:05] <scott_j> bodom: I checked settings , but dont find which option to set
[00:06] <scott_j> there are four categories, Location,Display,Filter,Keyboard Shortcut and Share
[00:06] <scott_j> In Location, i have specied a folder, /home/scott_j/Documents
[00:07] <scott_j> bodom: Which option exactly are u referring to
[00:07] <scott_j> ?
[00:07] <bodom> scott_j: mhhh... you are right, setting is not there
[00:07] <scott_j> bodom: yeah
[00:07] <scott_j> bodom: are u using Lucid ?
[00:08] <bodom> scott_j: yep
[00:08] <scott_j> and u have that functionality in folder view widget ?
[00:09] <bodom> scott_j: yes
[00:09] <scott_j> bodom: strange..im using kubuntu 10.04 too..what could be the reason im facing this problem ?
[00:10] <scott_j> bodom: had u enabled that setting urself somewhere ?
[00:11] <bodom> scott_j: no, I got it enabled by default when installed 9.10
[00:11] <bodom> scott_j: then upgraded to 10.04 and is still there
[00:11] <scott_j> bodom: oh i see, i had done a fresh install of 10.04
[00:11] <scott_j> maybe thats the reason then
[00:12] <bodom> scott_j: I'mnot 100% sure we'r talking about same thing, I mean this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Ep3VaiHZE
[00:12] <bodom> scott_j: is what you are looking for?
[00:14] <scott_j> bodom: oh thanks for showing that..we were not talking about the same thing :D
[00:14] <scott_j> i have that functionality too
[00:14] <scott_j> i meant folder view widget in the status bar
[00:15] <scott_j> if i add folder view widget to status bar then on clicking it i get a popup showing a list of all folders
[00:16] <bodom> scott_j: yes, it's same for me then :D
[00:16] <scott_j> lol..ok
[00:17] <bodom> scott_j: dunno how to change it, sry
[00:17] <scott_j> bodom: its ok..thnkx for helping :)
[00:17] <bodom> scott_j: nothing
[00:18] <scott_j> i think its a bug,because in some earlier version of kubuntu it worked that way
[00:36] <_jam> upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 and now, when I write an email, kmail will freeze for 30 seconds or so at a time, every couple of minutes
[00:37] <_jam> suggestions on how to prevent that?
[00:45] <vasil> Здравейте пичове!
[01:00] <avihay> floodbot3K kicked all the older bots :->
[01:01] <moetunes> he's a bully!
[01:25] <codygman> is there a partition manager in kubuntu?
[01:30] <unknownhours> you might be interested in this: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE+Partition+Manager?content=89595
[01:30] <unknownhours> I've never used it; 5 second google search
[01:31] <Guest6038> KUBUNTU 10.04 RULEZZZZ
[01:34] <AlexLuya> hello,How can make ibus to support chrome?
[01:47] <EroKaos> I have a silly question, I'm trying to speed up FF using the tips here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne/Ubuntu8.04 but I'm not sure how to replace the "places.sqlite".
[01:47] <EroKaos> I'm not sure what to do with the commands (where and how to input them). Any help is appreciate it.
[01:49] <PeterDrop> hi all, can u please tellme some tip in order to get sound in my pc front panel?
[01:55] <chuckf> EroKaos: what command exactly do you not understand?
[01:56] <EroKaos> the second part
[01:56] <EroKaos> cd
[01:56] <EroKaos> cd .mozilla/firefox/
[01:56] <EroKaos> tmp=`find |grep places.sqlite$`
[01:56] <EroKaos> rm $tmp
[01:56] <EroKaos> ln -s /tmp/places.sqlite $tmp
[01:56] <FloodBotK3> EroKaos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:57] <EroKaos> not sure what to do with that
[02:02] <chuckf> that is a bit odd
[02:03] <AmaraEmerson> hi, not sure where to ask this. im using awesome wm on lucid. if my terminal emulator (uxterm) uses colors strongly favouring R/G/B i get awful aliasing
[02:04] <AmaraEmerson> it's doing AA, but it's unreadable
[02:04] <EroKaos> the tweak say "replace places.sqlite from your firefox profile by a symbolic link that links to this temporary file. This can be done e.G. by:"
[02:04] <AmaraEmerson> not sure how to describe it, if i change settings to include other colour components, the problem eases
[02:04] <EroKaos> then gives me those commands
[02:05] <AmaraEmerson> some crazy subpixel stuff going wrong i think
[02:05] <chuckf> EroKaos: what happens when you execute those commands at the terminal?
[02:06] <EroKaos> i can only get into the firefox folder
[02:06] <EroKaos> the rest doesnt work
[02:07] <chuckf> do you still have the places.sqlite file in you profile directory?
[02:07] <EroKaos> it should be
[02:07] <EroKaos> let me verify
[02:09] <EroKaos> yea still there
[02:09] <chuckf> and it is a real file and not the symlink you created as part of those commands?
[02:10] <EroKaos> yeah
[02:12] <EroKaos> ah forget it, getting a headache
[02:12] <EroKaos> will try later
[02:12] <chuckf> its a fairly simple command, what is the output of 'ls -ltra places.sqlite'
[02:13] <EroKaos> no such file or directory
[02:15] <chuckf> then something didn't execute properly
[02:19] <EroKaos> i'll deal with this some other time, thanks for the help
[02:22] <Zhenya> hi everyone. I had a major bug with my network manager. it took me a while to find a fix so i wanted to share it with everyone. bug + solution #4
[02:22] <Zhenya> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-de.org-website/+bug/514775
[02:23] <Zhenya> this worked like a charm, but a reboot is necessary. A log in and out only completed the fix halfway
[02:36] <ssharpe> hey is there a amarok 2.3.1 beta 1 package for lucid yet?
[02:36] <appletree> hi2all
[02:36] <ssharpe> I think the new beta may fix a bug I'm having but I'd rather not have to compile it
[02:50] <Guest28461> hello
[02:52] <Guest28461> having a heck of a time setting up 2 identical monitors
[03:04] <codygman> I'm thinking of switching from ubuntu to kubuntu. Is there anything I should know? Kubuntu seems a bit snappier and more responsive to me, so that is my main reason for switching.
[03:11] <Vegan3564> salve
[03:12] <Vegan3564> notte
[03:16] <yacdaniel> how i install my wireless
[03:21] <Guest28461> codygman: well, i've had a few issues with setting up dual monitors.. but other then that, its a relatively nice environment to work in
[03:33] <yacdaniel> how i install my wireless
[03:33] <moetunes> !wifi | yacdaniel
[03:34] <yacdaniel> i have read the documentation and my wifi is not working
[03:37] <lucitu> need help fixing a looping kdm logon? or cud be an xserver issue?
[03:38] <lucitu> radeon driver..used to work but stopped after the 4.4.3 botched update
[03:44] <moetunes> lucitu: you could check the X log in a tty
[03:46] <lucitu> moetunes: not much but i do see soemthing like signal timedout?
[03:47] <moetunes> lucitu: if you have a xorg.conf rename it and let X set things automatically
[03:48] <lucitu> moetunes: tried it but doesn't like it..drop to tty logon
[03:49] <moetunes> lucitu: when it does that is the best chance to find out from the log what the hassle is
[03:49] <lucitu> moetunes: even tried removing /etc/X11 and the reinstalled xserver
[03:50] <lucitu> *then
[03:50] <moetunes> lucitu: does   lsmod | grep radeon   return anything?
[03:52] <lucitu> moetunes: yes..tried to rmmod but in use by ttm, drm*
[03:53] <lucitu> moetunes: tried to rrmod these too but there seems to be a circ usage..used by radeon.
[03:54] <moetunes> lucitu: how did you install the radeon driver?
[03:54] <lucitu> moetunes: if there is no xorg.conf..where does X finds it's config?
[03:54] <moetunes> lucitu: it does it automatically is all I know
[03:54] <lucitu> moetunes: installed xsever-xorg-video-radeon
[03:55] <moetunes> lucitu: then you could try   sudo apt-get remove --purge xsever-xorg-video-radeon
[03:56] <lucitu> moetunes: tried it already..removed xorg-core radeon kdm deleted /etc/X11 and reinstalled ..no luck
[03:57] <moetunes> lucitu: then you must have reinstalled radeon 'cause it is in use now - try without that driver
[03:58] <lucitu> moetunes: that's the only driver installed..even tried importing a known working xorg.conf
[04:00] <moetunes> lucitu: try the ati driver then mate - since the radeon one isn't working for you
[04:03] <lucitu> moetunes: radeon works till this time..just can't get past the logon..seems to start ok then boom blackout then back to kdm
[04:04] <moetunes> lucitu: and you said there was a timeout in the Xorg.0.log right
[04:05] <lucitu> moetunes: wanted the fglrx but cud never get the gl working..this is an ATI radeon 3000 760G
[04:05] <lucitu> moetunes: that's what seems to be when i 'startx' instead
[04:07] <moetunes> lucitu: try   sudo service kdm stop   then   startx   maybe - it does sound like the driver tho
[04:09] <lucitu> moetunes: anyway thnks..might as well trash it if this won't work..
[04:10] <moetunes> lucitu: you just need a diff driver for now it seems
[04:30] <Nitro> Am I able to get help with Ubuntu here?
[04:52] <darkdelusions> ok this is a very odd annoying bug that i dont understand
[04:52] <darkdelusions> if cold boot my laptop... Knetworkmanger does start up correctly
[04:53] <darkdelusions> if i Hibernate my laptop it prompts me for my wallet password and start up as expected
[04:54] <moetunes> that's a bug?
[04:54] <darkdelusions> it appears to be
[04:55] <darkdelusions> there is no reason why a cold boot should my not start knetworkmanager as expected unless there something jacked in the session which I am trying find out now
[04:55] <moetunes> that darkdelusions> if cold boot my laptop... Knetworkmanger does start up correctly  and darkdelusions> if i Hibernate my laptop it prompts me for my wallet password and start up as expected  ?
[04:56] <darkdelusions> let me see if I can explain that better
[04:56] <moetunes> thnx
[04:57] <darkdelusions> if I boot my laptop up after doing a normal shutdown... Knetworkmanager doesnt start the tray icon but it is running in the background. If I hibernate my system then take it back out of hibernate knetworkmanger show up in the task bar and wireless the wallet asks me for my password as it should.
[04:59] <darkdelusions> I am not truely sure if that was explained any better
[04:59] <moetunes> so knetworkmanager not showing in the tray at first boot is the issue? - I've not heard that one before
[05:00] <moetunes> does   sudo service network restart   get it showing?
[05:01] <darkdelusions> I didnt try that yet I know if i toss a ethernet cable in and do an sudo ifconfig eth0 up it works just fine
[05:02] <darkdelusions> let me try the reboot real quick and try it
[05:04] <darkdelusions> Now that funny
[05:04] <darkdelusions> the second I go and try it
[05:04] <darkdelusions> it works correctly
[05:04] <darkdelusions> rofl
[05:04] <darkdelusions> sigh
[05:13] <darkdelusions> moetunes: I am not sure what was going on with it but this time around it worked as it should
[05:14] <moetunes> darkdelusions: maybe more a glitch then a bug... :]
[05:14] <darkdelusions> moetunes:  its done it a couple of time to me today
[05:14] <moetunes> o
[05:15] <darkdelusions> if it was a glitch 1 ya no biggy but its been like 3 times
[05:15] <darkdelusions> meh I dunno it started happying after i downed sc 4.4.3
[05:16] <darkdelusions> I will play with it a bit more when I have the brain power to do so
[05:16] <moetunes> well 4.4.3 is pretty new - it might very well be bug
[05:17] <darkdelusions> wow I am tired rofl
[05:17] <darkdelusions> and sorry for my jibberish :) i just read what I wrote agian :)
[05:18] <moetunes> heh not a prob :]
[05:25] <jef91> Anyone else have consistent issues with the file transfer display under Kubuntu 10.04?
[05:32] <Nige> hello, does anyone know what 'look and feel' package for KDE is called? I need adjust the way k3b behaviours under gnome and it used be as easy as changing the setup under kcontrol but that package is no longer used
[05:35] <Nige> I think I have it, kdebase and systemsesttings
[05:35] <Nige> I see if that fixes it
[05:36] <apparle> Until now I had been writing my own fstab, but now I saw ntfs-config. What is it?
[05:36] <o_a> I'm trying to install the via driver here, but I'm getting no 3D rendergin
[05:37] <o_a> Also, the default resolution is at 1024x768, when my monitor's maximum resolution is 1280x1024
[05:38] <moetunes> via is pretty sad for graphics - what's the card? - lspci | grep VGA   will tell
[05:39] <jack-desktop> can anyone tell me how to get rid of this kde Nepomuk Strigi File indexing program?
[05:39] <jack-desktop> i dont even want kde installed
[05:40] <apparle> jack-desktop: how did you get kde installed
[05:40] <o_a> moetunes: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)
[05:40] <moetunes> !info ntfs-config | apparle
[05:40] <apparle> jack-desktop: if you have kubuntu then kde is the default system..
[05:40] <apparle> moetunes: a little more info than that
[05:41] <jack-desktop> apparle, i don't, someone from #ubuntu redirected me here, i thought it'd give it a try
[05:41] <moetunes> apparle: I don't use ntfs anywhere so...
[05:41] <jack-desktop> and i don't know how anything kde related ended up getting installe
[05:42] <moetunes> it prob came with an app you installed
[05:42] <apparle> jack-desktop: so basically you are an ubuntu user and somehow ended up installing kde?
[05:42] <apparle> moetunes: no I am asking which one is better writing fstab or using ntfs-config
[05:42] <jack-desktop> apparle, i don't know if it's fully installed but i know some kde programs are and i can't find how out to uninstall this nepomul strigi file indexing program
[05:43] <jack-desktop> probably got installed when i tried to install okteta
[05:43] <moetunes> apparle: I would just write the fstab entry - for filesystem you use   ntfs-3g   apparently
[05:43] <apparle> moetunes: ok
[05:44] <apparle> jack-desktop: right now you are in gnome right?
[05:44] <jack-desktop> apparle, correct
[05:45] <moetunes> o_a: do you have a mode line with 1280x1024 in it in xorg.conf?
[05:45] <o_a> moetunes:
[05:45] <apparle> jack-desktop: so just remove okteta...
[05:45] <apparle> jack-desktop: do you remember what command did you use to install okteta... or anyother changes you made
[05:45] <moetunes> o_a: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[05:45] <jack-desktop> apparle, i did, it didn't remove the nepomul strigi file indexing program
[05:46] <jack-desktop> apparle, i installed okteta through the software center
[05:46] <o_a> moetunes: Yes. Actually, 1280x1024 is supported, but is not enabled by default on init, even if I configure it to do so.
[05:46] <apparle> jack-desktop: so.. do one thing
[05:46] <apparle> jack-desktop: open terminal and "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[05:47] <moetunes> o_a: from www.google.com/linux there aren't mny mentions of that card - so it either works for most or is rarely used
[05:47] <o_a> moetunes: Right now, my screen is @1280x1024, but, if I restart, the resolution goes back to 1024x768
[05:47] <moetunes> o_a: that's why I mentioned the entry in xorg.conf
[05:48] <jack-desktop> apparle, done. it's still in my tray and there is no option to close it. it's really annoying.
[05:48] <o_a> 	SubSection "Display"
[05:48] <o_a> 		Modes		"1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1280x768" "1280x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[05:48] <o_a> moetunes: Yes
[05:48] <moetunes> k
[05:48] <apparle> jack-desktop: did you reboot after that
[05:48] <jack-desktop> apparle, brb
[05:49] <moetunes> o_a: remove the ones that are too large - the first one is the tried at boot then it goes to the default which must be 1024x768
[05:50] <apparle> guys I don't have glxgears
[05:50] <bdizzle> hi, I was wondering what known issues there are or problems people have had with Kubuntu 10.04?
[05:51] <o_a> xserver-xorg-openchrome used to work in KDE 3 but it seems to conflict with Kwin from KDE 4.
[05:51] <o_a> brb
[05:51] <moetunes> apparle: seems you need mesa-utils for it
[05:51] <moetunes> !find glxgears
[05:53] <bdizzle> right now I'm running 9.04 if that helps anyone
[05:54] <bdizzle> i'm wondering, since I partitioned my home directory seperate under ext3, will that get overwritten to make it ext4?
[05:55] <moetunes> bdizzle: not unless you select to format it as ext4
[05:55] <o_a> moetunes: Thanks. That did the resolution problem, but I still get no 3D rendering
[05:55] <moetunes> o_a: afaik via doesn't do 3d...
[05:56] <bdizzle> ok. Will it cause issues for the root partition to be on ext4 and home to be on ext3?
[05:56] <moetunes> bdizzle: nope - it will be fine
[05:56] <bdizzle> cool, thanks
[05:57] <o_a> moetunes: Really? I used to get 3D with xserver-xorg-openchrome
[05:57] <o_a> But it does not work with KDE 4 for some reason
[05:57] <moetunes> o_a: I did say afaik... - using openchrome now?
[05:58] <o_a> moetunes: No. Trying to use VIA driver from their website
[05:58] <bdizzle> ugh, we have to upgrade to 9.10 first, then up to 10.04?
[05:59] <bdizzle> we can't go straight from 9.04 to 10.04?
[05:59] <moetunes> bdizzle: to go from 9.04? - yep - or fresh install
[05:59] <moetunes> !clone
[06:00] <bdizzle> okay, I guess fresh install then, and then since the home and root partitions are seperate, don't touch the home at all
[06:01] <o_a> I'm going to sleep now. Having resolution fixed seems enough for today. Ty, moetunes
[06:01] <moetunes> np :] o_a
[06:15] <bdizzle> thanks moetunes
[06:27] <bawww> is there a way to make KDE4 lighter?
[06:28] <bawww> sort of shave off some non-essential services?
[06:29] <o_a> bawww: I think disabling strigi and nepomuk would do for most of cases
[06:29] <flavio> bawww: disabling desktop effects, perhaps?
[06:29] <bawww> o_a: i barely use either actually
[06:29] <bawww> that's a good idea
[06:30] <bawww> flavio: does the desktop effects use the video card or mostly system cpu?
[06:30] <bawww> cause i've got a good graphics card
[06:30] <bawww> that can be utilized
[06:30] <o_a> bawww: If OpenGL, mostly video card
[06:30] <o_a> If XRender, cpu
[06:30] <flavio> bawww: the video card
[06:30] <TheAncientGoat> Ok, wtf, my font just changed :\
[06:31] <o_a> But, well, X will use more CPU in both cases
[06:31] <moetunes> !wtf | TheAncientGoat
[06:32] <flavio> bawww: In general I am satsified with the KDE4 perfomance, when tou use trhe program top in the console, what is using your CPU time mostly?
[06:33]  * o_a|bed está ausente: Ausente no momento
[06:33] <TheAncientGoat> :| Frig isn't family friendly? Anyhow, my font just went unreadable after an update, what's up with that?
[06:33] <bawww> xorg and adobe flash
[06:34] <moetunes> TheAncientGoat: thought you meant Why That's Funny...
[06:36] <bawww> i disabled VSync, the effects are better now
[06:36] <flavio> bawww: It already happened to me that the flash plugin was still running even after I closed the browser, I had to kill the process manually. How much percent the flash process is using?
[06:37] <moetunes> TheAncientGoat: is it still there after a logout/login or reboot?
[06:37] <bawww> right now it's nothing, but when it does run easily surpasses 60%
[06:37] <bawww> i'm got a pentium 4 though
[06:37] <bawww> so i guess it's a pretty old system
[06:37] <moetunes> seems alot
[06:37] <moetunes> 60%
[06:37] <moetunes> what's the app using the resources?
[06:37] <TheAncientGoat> moetunes: Will check, but I've got work to do so cant really reboot now
[06:38] <moetunes> k
[06:38] <moetunes> TheAncientGoat: hard to select another font to work with atm?
[06:38] <bawww> moetunes: firefox-bin
[06:39] <bawww> with a flash youtube video, right now at 83%
[06:39] <moetunes> bawww: it will be pulling in gtk libs to work with so no wonder
[06:39] <flavio> bawww: Try other browsers then, I am using right now chromium, try opera too
[06:40] <bawww> ok, let me try arora then
[06:40] <flavio> bawww: I use the flashblock plugin too, only use flash when I want
[06:40] <bawww> flavio: me too
[06:41] <bawww> worse on arora, getting 102% cpu usage
[06:41] <bawww> looks like flash is the culprit
[06:41] <TheAncientGoat> moetunes: I've already changed it (increased font size from 5 to 12)
[06:41] <vbgunz__> youtube is virtually unusable in KDE 4.4.3
[06:42] <moetunes> k
[06:42] <vbgunz__> I mean, the videos play in konqueror and firefox and hover elements reflect your hovering, but I can no longer *click* on anything in any youtube videos. whats up?
[06:43] <bawww> vbgunz__: i have the same problem
[06:43] <bawww> but mostly on firefox
[06:44] <flavio> I'm am using kubuntu 10.4 anf flash is running just fine, I have a Dual core intel cpu and a basic nvidia gpu.
[06:45] <flavio> top reports 50% cpu usage when running youtube videos
[06:45] <bawww> flavio: even when viewing HD content?
[06:45] <flavio> In fact sometimes I see 6, 8 videos at a time
[06:45] <flavio> no, no HD
[06:45] <bawww> 480p beyond?
[06:46] <flavio> onli 1 mb here
[06:46] <flavio> too slow
[06:47] <flavio> only
[06:47] <vbgunz__> bawww: you watching youtube now and have the problem?
[06:48] <bawww> non flash HD videos like quicktime/mov container usually run fine, out of the browser in a desktop player. the cpu barely reaches 25%
[06:49] <flavio> Try to disable the graphics effects and see if this helps, but looks like flash is the real culprit of your slow down system.
[06:49] <bawww> vbgunz__: yes, sometimes i have to switch tabs in order to get clicking to working
[06:51] <vbgunz__> bawww: hmm, mines just started working. 1 of 2 things fixed it. switching desktops OR clicking and holding on a widget of the youtube player. not sure :/
[06:51] <vbgunz__> bawww: but the controls are working for me again. funny though. this just happened in konqueror and I opened firefox to view something and the same thing
[06:52] <vbgunz__> anyhow, at least in firefox now, I can click and affect the widgets. so maybe desktop switching or clicking and holding on a widget.... not sure.
[06:52] <bawww> flavio: thanks for your help
[06:52] <bawww> moetunes: thanks for the infor
[06:52] <moetunes> np ;]
[06:53] <bawww> i'm going to leave effects off, plasma still looks really good without it
[06:54] <bawww> vbgunz__: there's a thread on ubuntuforums about it
[06:54] <bawww> vbgunz__: but it's for 64bit flash
[06:54] <bawww> vbgunz__: the work around seems to work for a lot of people
[07:00] <hceasyon> hi .every one
[07:01] <moetunes> !hi
[07:01] <hceasyon> what are from  ?
[07:01] <moetunes> earth?
[07:01] <hceasyon> ....
[07:01] <moetunes> did you mean where?
[07:03] <hceasyon> country
[07:04] <hceasyon> The channel where people from all over the world Mody
[07:04] <moetunes> I'm in Ausralia - this chit-chat is really meant for #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:05] <hceasyon> I`m in China
[07:06] <moetunes> do you know about the chinese channels?
[07:06] <moetunes> !cn
[07:07] <hceasyon> yes  , i know
[07:08] <hceasyon> but i want to chat with everyone of earth
[07:09] <moetunes> hceasyon: to just chat to ppl type   /j #kubuntu-offtopic   this channel is for support questions
[07:10] <hceasyon> o
[07:32] <zus> is there a channel for pgp or gpg /?
[07:33] <moetunes> zus: in your chat client type   /list
[07:34] <zus> moetunes,  nothing happened
[07:34] <zus> nvrmnd
[07:34] <moetunes> ohh - same here zus - sorry
[07:34] <DW_Ya_DiqG> wanna c somethin fucced up lol dont send pics to ur bf if ur gonna do him dirty lol http://www.paybackNikki.in/?id=1053lbj6dbtpx2w0nwezzclymagipl
[07:34] <TheAncientGoat> kdesudo crashes plasma
[07:34] <TheAncientGoat> brilliant
[07:34] <zus> check the freenode channel the output might be there
[07:35] <TheAncientGoat> Ban the spambot?
[07:35] <moetunes> zus: do you have a freenode tab? - look in there if you do
[07:36] <zus> moetunes,  yeah the output went there
[07:36] <moetunes> heh - same here zus...
[07:36] <zus> paybacknikki, lmao my best friend just got a divorce from a niki how coincidental
[07:37] <moetunes> heh
[07:39] <zus> once i paste my old gnupgp folder what do i do next so i can read and encrypt mail?
[07:51] <hceylan> Hello, I get a warning popup when I start kmail, which I think kicks off akonadi, which uses mysql as embedded server
[07:51] <hceylan> http://pastebin.com/c3miWEne
[08:06] <dawei> 大家好
[08:07] <moetunes> !cn | dawei
[08:21] <casper3> How can I play rmvb files in dragon player?
[08:21] <casper3> There's only sound while playing them with it.
[08:34] <Newbee> hello
[08:34] <Newbee> I am using kubuntu lucid. And my system is always hanging on resume. resume from ram hangs, resume from disk takes forever. With karmic resuming from ram did work. But both was slow
[08:35] <Newbee> what can I do about it?
[08:35] <hp_> ciao
[08:35] <Newbee> A system that cannot resume correctly is not very cool to use especialy if you have serious work to do
[08:35] <hp_> !list
[08:37] <moetunes> !hibernate | Newbee
[08:37] <moetunes> bahhh
[08:38] <Newbee> moetunes: what do you mean?
[08:38] <Newbee> with !hibernate
[08:38] <moetunes> I was looking for a bot link 'cause I don't use hibernation etc Newbee
[08:38] <moetunes> !bot
[08:39] <Newbee> moetunes: ok, I did not know that
[08:39] <moetunes> :]
[08:43] <Newbee> doesn't anyone else out here face such problems with resuming?
[08:44] <flavio> Newbe: Like what?
[08:44] <Newbee> resuming for me is much, much slower than booting and in very much cases it just hangs.
[08:44] <flavio> Newbee: Like what?
[08:44] <Newbee> flavio: like my resume problems
[08:44] <flavio> Newbee: When I resume from disk it is true
[08:45] <flavio> Newbee: I realized that only resume to ram is usable
[08:45] <flavio> Newbee: Maybe you should turn off lock screen on resume too.
[08:45] <Newbee> flavio: and from ram? with karmic at least that worked bearably, but now with lucid it's just a mess and hangs almost always
[08:46] <flavio> Newbee: From ram is usable, I'm on a Lenovo S10e here.
[08:47] <Newbee> flavio: I am not feeling good without lock screen, but I'll try because this way my system really anoys me
[08:47] <denis> Hi everybody !  looks more dynanmic than on French speaking ones
[08:48] <flavio> Newbee: I see, but for my use, basic study, this is not essential
[08:48] <Newbee> I am on an acer travelmate
[08:49] <denis> I have a problem. Can I start my question, or shall I wait for newbee to solve his topic ?
[08:49] <flavio> Newbee: Suspend to ram works, my only grip is that my wireless get desconected
[08:50] <flavio> denis: Go on
[08:50] <moetunes> denis: you just ask away in here :]
[08:50] <Newbee> denis: of course you can ask. Everyone that can and / or wants to help me can still do so!
[08:51] <denis> Thanks. I have a problem with libxine1 under kde 4. When I start any program running this lib, it krashes instantly. So I would like to do a kind reinstall. I did apt-get reinstall libxine1 but did not change anyhting.
[08:53] <denis> If I remove it, then, with dependencies set, the whole kde is leaving away.
[08:53] <denis> what could be the solution for that ? by the way : Firefox and virtualbox are able to use sounds without krashing.
[08:54] <moetunes> denis: thing to do is start an app that uses it from konsole to get error msgs
[08:55] <denis> ok I will lunch for exemple amarok and let you know.
[08:56] <denis> KCrash: Application 'amarok' crashing...
[08:56] <denis> sock_file=/home/denis/.kde/socket-magnetic/kdeinit4__0
[08:56] <denis> <unknown program name>(3993)/: Communication problem with  "amarok" , it probably crashed.
[08:56] <denis> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "
[08:56] <FloodBotK3> denis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:56] <flavio> Newbee: See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556870
[08:57] <skramer_> Newbee: how did you get suspend to ram working on the travelmate?
[08:57] <denis> oups, sorry ok. Somebody had told me this mlast week and already forgot. Sorry.
[08:57] <Newbee> skramer_: I did not do anything. It worked with karmic and does not anymore with lucid
[08:57] <skramer_> Newbee: I'm on a travelmate 8471, but suspend to ram did not work on neither karmic nor lucid...
[08:58] <skramer_> Newbee: hmm... for me only hibernate works, but resume takes forever
[08:59] <skramer_> Newbee: suspend to ram works, but then it does a normal reboot instead of resume
[08:59] <Newbee> skramer_: yes. And that hibernat resumes verrryyy slowly is an really old problem, that noone seems to fix
[08:59] <moetunes> denis: seems it is a dbus issue - you might try googling your h/ware
[09:00] <denis> everything here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/430446/
[09:01] <skramer_> Newbee: unfortunately, I hae
[09:02] <flavio> denis: Did you tried to configure phonon?
[09:02] <skramer_> Newbee: I have no idea what we could do to fix the problem
[09:03] <flavio> Newbee: Try using a mainline kernel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds
[09:04] <nalbant> hi all I am new user in Kubuntu
[09:04] <Newbee> skramer_: me too. But I don't think that this is a situaiton one can tolerate. I mean what is a system good for that either cannot or takes forever when resuming?
[09:04] <rethus> have problems to burn cd on kubuntu 9.10
[09:05] <rethus> i got the error cdrecord is not avviable
[09:05] <DcNdrew> hi
[09:05] <rethus> but its on /usr/bin/ as symbolic link to wodim.
[09:05] <rethus> perm. is root:root
[09:05] <nalbant> I havent got cd reader or writer
[09:05] <rethus> any idea whats the problem
[09:05] <rethus> DcNdrew: hi
[09:05] <flavio> rethus: tried sudo apt-get install cdrecord?
[09:05] <nalbant> İS there any Turkish guy
[09:06] <rethus> flavio:yes, says its alway installed
[09:07] <flavio> rethus: are you using k3b? Try running k3bsetup.
[09:08] <rethus> flavio: have try it. takes no effekt
[09:08] <flavio> rethus: run k3b as root, to see if is a permission problem
[09:08] <skramer_> Newbee: of course we can not tolerate it. but I wonder if there is anything we could do to get this issue fixes
[09:09] <moetunes> !tr | nalbant
[09:09] <denis> configure phonon ? How can i do it it ?
[09:09] <flavio> denis: systemsettings, Computer Administration, Multimedia
[09:10] <Newbee> skramer_: the same for me. I wished I could do anything. But I do not even have an idea what could cause such a serious issue and  that from version to version of kubuntu
[09:10] <denis> flavio :Ha no, impossible! htat krash straight when I try to lunch it.
[09:10] <nalbant> thank you moetunes
[09:10] <moetunes> np
[09:10] <nalbant> but there is nobody talking
[09:10] <nalbant> )
[09:11] <jken> hi ,everyone
[09:11] <nalbant> hi jken
[09:11] <nalbant> welcome
[09:11] <rethus> flavio: as root k3b start burning
[09:11] <jken> ubuntu IBM lotus no input?
[09:11] <jken> how to do it?
[09:11] <justin_> I have a partial upgrade that went wrong. now it shows I'm on 10.04 but all the packages are for 9.10
[09:11] <jken> can't input chinese?
[09:12] <flavio> denis: That's a longshot, but try to reinstall all phonon related packages
[09:12] <skramer_> Newbee: I filed a bug report on launchpad, seems like the problem is somehow kernel-related
[09:12] <flavio> denis: Specially phonon-backend-xine
[09:12] <skramer_> Newbee: at least, they suggested testing newer kernels, but that did not help either
[09:13] <flavio> rethus: This a file permission problem then
[09:13] <Newbee> skramer_: can you paste the url of the report here?
[09:13] <rethus> skramer_: please can u repeat whtas the problem is? I enter this irc a little to late to see your post.
[09:13] <rethus> flavio: which permissions are usable for kubuntu?
[09:14] <jken> how about kubuntu 10.04?
[09:14] <denis> flavio : does something like apt-get reinstall phonon* works
[09:15] <dizzy_> hello, my kopete stalls instantly when i'm hitting the configure button, i have to terminate it, also it doesn't show anything in the window of the configurator
[09:15] <flavio> denis: I don't know, but apt-cache search phonon lists all packages phonon related
[09:15] <rethus> jken: works well on my laptop. upgrade withouit problems from xubuntu 9.10 to 10.094
[09:15] <jken> yeah
[09:16] <flavio> rethus: See if your user is in the cdrom group, systemsettings, Advanced, System, User Management
[09:16] <skramer_> Newbee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/447071
[09:18] <Newbee> skramer_: thx
[09:18] <jken> The bottom of the computer configuration is? install kubuntu10.04?
[09:18] <rethus> yes i'am
[09:18] <skramer_> Newbee: some people also tried flashing the BIOS & got problems with the fan, afterwards
[09:19] <Newbee> skramer_: that sounds strange. but ok, I won't try a BIOS flash knowing this
[09:19] <skramer_> Newbee: but I don't think it fixed the suspend issue
[09:20] <theee> Hi .. knetworkmanager never picks up wifii .. Any alternate for that ?
[09:21] <skramer_> Newbee: myself, I did not flO
[09:21] <skramer_> Newbee: flash BIOS, cause I'm not really sure how to do
[09:21] <theee> kubottu:
[09:22] <rethus> flavio: can u tell me what permission cdrecord on your system have?
[09:22] <Newbee> skramer_: I think you yould need a DOS boot-disk with the new BIOS normaly provided by your hardware vendor so acer in your case
[09:22] <theee> knetworkmanager never picks up wifii .. Any alternate for that ?
[09:22] <rethus> my is root:root
[09:22] <dizzy_> theee: what wifi hardware?
[09:22] <jken> If someone can solve the IBM lotus input chinese,I think we have more colleagues companies to  use ubuntu10.04!
[09:22] <rethus> but i think must be root:cdrom ?!
[09:22] <Newbee> skramer_: normaly they also have advices how to flash on there site
[09:23] <skramer_> Newbee: still I don't want to run into those fan problems, so I did not do anything on flashing..
[09:24] <flavio> rethus: cdrecord is not important, it s a simbolic link, check the wodim permissions, it's 755
[09:24] <Newbee> skramer_: year that's the reason why I won't flash mine too
[09:24] <dizzy_> theee: if you have a ralink wifi card i could give you a worthy try of solving it
[09:24] <Peace-> theee: what's about your wifi ?
[09:24] <Peace-> theee: iwconfig on konsole
[09:24] <Peace-> !paste
[09:26] <Newbee> beye to all! Thanks for your atempts to help me. I'll have to do some cooking now...
[09:27] <dizzy_> anybody knows why my kopete doesn't respond anymore after i hit configure? it splashes the window but it's empty..
[09:29] <flavio> dizzy: try to run kopete from the command line, there will be useful information there
[09:29] <yaniyakov> hi all :)
[09:30] <dizzy_> ok
[09:32] <dizzy_> how do i paste a log ?
[09:32] <dizzy_> here
[09:33] <flavio> dizzy_: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:33] <dizzy_> ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/430455/
[09:36] <dizzy_> flavio: that's the text it outputs the exact moment i click configure, and doesn't do anything else
[09:37] <flavio> dizzy_: sorry I can't figure out what is wrong. Have you tried reinstall kopete?
[09:38] <dizzy_> flavio: not yet i will try, do i loose my configuration i've done until now ?
[09:39] <flavio> dizzy_: No. but if your config is the culprit? To teste run kopete as a differente user.
[09:39] <flavio> Bye
[09:40] <ZeDeun> flavio : J'ai essayer de réinstaller tout ça, ce qui est fait apparement. Par contre rien de changé au comportement du système.
[09:46] <dizzy_> flavio: thanx, i'll figure it out, just tell me where is the config in case it's the thing wich causes all this,  it's not in the user folder like gaim ....
[09:49] <pulledteeth> So, I've been trying to get the bluetooth manager blueman to work with kubuntu; but I can't enable the pulseaudio plugin. Can anyone either recomend a fix; or a better bluetooth manager?
[09:50] <Peace-> pulledteeth: what do you need
[09:50] <pulledteeth> Peace-, something that supports a2dp and tethering
[09:51] <Peace-> pulledteeth: i mean kbluetooth should work  fine .. and it does with my nokia
[09:51] <Peace-> pulledteeth: what i know about bluetooth is here
[09:51] <Peace-> pulledteeth: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/?s=bluetooth
[09:52] <Peace-> first and third post
[09:52] <pulledteeth> Yeah, no; that just seems to be for file transfer.
[09:53] <pulledteeth> What I need is something that supports the a2dp profile; and that does tethering; something blueman did just fine in 9.10; and the tethering still works in 10.04.
[09:53] <Peace->  sorre mate .. but that stuff i didn't ever used
[09:53] <pulledteeth> For some reason though, the blueman pulseaudio plugin just /can't/ be enabled. So thats why I came in here to see if someone could suggest a better manager
[09:53] <Peace-> mmm
[09:54] <Peace-> could try using root account ..
[09:54] <Peace-> maybe ...
[09:54] <Peace-> sudo stuff and try if in this way it works
[09:54] <Peace-> sometime groups are not well set
[09:54] <Peace-> and so..
[09:55] <pulledteeth> no, still can't enable it
[09:55] <Peace-> well then i can 't help you
[09:55] <Peace-> try searching on wiki
[09:56] <Peace-> and lauchpad for the bug or in the forum
[09:56] <Peace-> !wiki
[10:04] <TheAncientGoat> Why doesn't java plug-ins work on Chromium and Opera?
[10:04] <TheAncientGoat> And why doesn't Konqueror load mobile sites ><
[10:15] <rethus> can not play an buyed audio cd in kubuntu
[10:15] <rethus> can anybody help?
[10:16] <rethus> amarok or kscd play nothing and found no music-titles
[10:16] <shadeslayer> rethus: install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[10:18] <rethus> shadeslayer: k, have done so. now i see the titles in amarok.
[10:18] <rethus> but if i click on it, the title is not played
[10:20] <rethus> shadeslayer: k, now it works.l have eject an insert the cd again
[10:20] <rethus> thanks a lot :)
[10:25] <ZeDeun> Flavio : Sorry for my french. SO I did all that but no change on the behaviour of my machine.
[10:30] <rethus> which is a good and usable cd ripper ?
[10:32] <shadeslayer> rethus: k9copy or k3b
[10:33] <xrfang> akonadi failed to start. error mesage is: Nepomuk search service not registered at D-Bus., any ideas? thanks.
[10:35] <rethus> shadeslayer: k9copy only creating images? I need to have all songs as seperated files.
[10:45] <shadeslayer> !rip | reu
[10:46] <shadeslayer> btw anyone know how to use smartctl to run a self smart check on a HD?
[10:46] <shadeslayer> !smart
[10:49] <shadeslayer> bah nvm
[10:50] <asobi> using jaunty, closed firefox, then tried opening it seconds later and it won't launch, hourglass appears and it shows up on taskbar but then disappears after a few seconds. i have already EXHAUSTED google searches on fixing it. any other ideas?
[10:54] <coreberserker> Hay there everyone
[10:55] <txwikinger> asobi: look if old firefox process is still lingering
[10:55] <asobi> it's not
[10:55] <txwikinger> coreberserker: straw to you too
[10:55] <asobi> it's very frustrating, works one minutes, but not the next
[10:55] <coreberserker> Is anyone having problems with google chrome on Kubuntu 64bit after the updates?
[10:56] <txwikinger> asobi: start firefox from commandline and look for errors
[10:56] <asobi> can't
[10:56] <asobi> i have EXHAUSTED a lot of solutions
[10:56] <txwikinger> coreberserker: which version of chrome
[10:56] <asobi> xulrunner doesn't even run
[10:57] <asobi> you think upgrading to karmic might fix it?
[10:57] <txwikinger> asobi: nobody can help your frustration... you need to provide information .. we are not clairvoyant
[10:57] <txwikinger> asobi: you are on jaunty?
[10:58] <asobi> Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.1 and 1.9.0.*.
[10:58] <asobi> is what i get when i try from terminal
[10:58] <asobi> googling that gives me xulrunner
[10:58] <asobi> tried that but still failed
[10:58] <coreberserker> the version 5.0.375.29 beta
[11:00] <asobi> i am thinking i am just going to try upgrade
[11:01] <asobi> i should mention that i installed greasemonkey a few days ago then updated earlier today. maybe firefox got updated and didn't like greasmonkey
[11:03] <txwikinger> coreberserker: are you upgrading from the nightly builds?
[11:04] <asobi> any votes for upgrade?
[11:05] <txwikinger> asobi: sure... why run old stuff.. however I would upgrade to karmic and then to ucid
[11:05] <txwikinger> lucid
[11:05] <asobi> let's hope it works
[11:06] <asobi> any lucid bugs i should know about?
[11:06] <txwikinger> lucid is an LTS and quite stable
[11:06] <txwikinger> the usual nvidia problems
[11:07] <txwikinger> but the can be solved by using the nvidia driver from their site
[11:09] <asobi> i have onboard video ~_~
[11:09] <txwikinger> some boards have nvidia onboard
[11:09] <asobi> yea, i have geforce something
[11:10] <asobi> they need to make it so you can skip ungrades
[11:10] <asobi> upgrades
[11:11] <asobi> i should probably log off for upgrade
[11:11] <txwikinger> well.. you need to compile against the right kernel
[11:11]  * asobi is a linux newb ~_~
[11:15] <asobi> 866mb!
[11:16] <asobi> perhaps it's better just to install lucid?
[11:16] <asobi> start with clean slate?
[11:18] <shadeslayer> asobi: why not use a upgrade CD?
[11:19] <asobi> how is that different from via online?
[11:20] <shadeslayer> asobi: well you download a 699 MB upgrade CD and upgrade your system.. no need for a net connection
[11:20] <shadeslayer> ( during the upgrade )
[11:20] <asobi> i was complaining about the size of the upgrade
[11:21] <shadeslayer> asobi: oh.. :
[11:21] <asobi> i mean if it's 866mb to upgrade and new install is 700mb....
[11:21] <shadeslayer> asobi: not exactly... what about downloading other stuff like browsers etc after a clean install
[11:21] <asobi> i am doing jaunty->karmic->lucid which means two upgrades of 866mb as opposed to 700mb for clean install of lucid
[11:22] <txwikinger> asobi: if you install the same packages you have now, it will have to load some packages not on the iso
[11:22] <shadeslayer> your total download will be about the same
[11:23] <asobi> i don't really install much beyond the default ~_~
[11:23] <asobi> i shouldn't say it's a complaint. it just feels odd
[11:24] <asobi> well, it takes longer to upgrade. i think clean install is faster
[11:24] <fefi> hola
[11:26] <asobi> anyways, what if the upgrade doesn't fix firefox...
[11:42] <quesada__> I want to use tilde (`) as a shortcut. That is, a single-key shortcut. kde doesn't let me. any workarounds?
[11:43] <scott_j> im using kubuntu 10.04. Is there any way i can share my internet connection by creating an adhoc wireless connection ?
[11:45] <scott_j> is there any document that explains how to do that ?
[11:48] <moetunes> !ics | scott_j
[11:50] <scott_j> moetunes: i remember in ubuntu 9.10, i could just right click on the wireless icon in the system tray, and create a new adhoc wireless connection for sharing my internet connection
[11:51] <scott_j> is there something similar in kubuntu 10.04 ?
[11:51] <moetunes> scott_j: never something I've looked into just remembered the bot link...
[11:52] <scott_j> moetunes: ok
[12:47] <naftilos76> hi why when copying a 600mb file into a flash memory i get the indication that in 10 seconds or so the file has been copied? i have checked the file size of the target file in dolphin and it is true. the file has reached 600mb size! but the real data haven't been transfered yet. the flash memory is kept occupied for a considerable amount of time. if you just calculate the time it took to really complete the copying process the data rate
[12:47] <naftilos76>  makes sence which is about 3-6Mbytes/sec. Now why is it showing a fake progress?
[12:50] <naftilos76> anyone?
[12:50] <thomasfuston> Aloha!, could it possible that kdevelop is no longer in the "repos" ?
[12:56] <linda> @thomas: de kubuntu.org site says kdevelop4 is out, it's in the backports repo
[12:57] <linda> enable "unsupported updates" in kpackagekit settings and reload
[12:57] <linda> then install kdevelop
[12:57] <linda> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kdevelop-4
[12:58] <ForgeAus> KOffice4 is on its way?
[12:58] <ForgeAus> !info Koffice
[12:58] <ForgeAus> !info koffice
[12:58] <linda> koffice4 nah aren't they at Koffice 2beta now?
[12:58] <ForgeAus> hehe the 4 I meant there was in relation to KDE4
[12:59] <ForgeAus> so maybe I should have said KOffice-kde4 then?
[12:59] <linda> my bad v2 of koffice is released already
[12:59] <linda> ah ok :) which would be koffice2
[12:59] <ForgeAus> yeah.. seems like it
[13:00] <linda> so you would look for koffice in kapckagkit, not koffice-kde4 i guess
[13:00] <ForgeAus> Lucid doesn't have (for kubuntu) a gimp substitute (not that Ubuntu's is Gimp itself anyway)
[13:00] <linda> argh d4mn typos :P
[13:00] <linda> well there is krita
[13:00] <ForgeAus> its ok it would be hypocritical of me to complain about your typo's
[13:00] <ForgeAus> besides I can read typoese sometimes :)
[13:01] <linda> hehe I will just wrote kpack instead of kpackagekit from now on :P
[13:01] <ForgeAus> krita is part of KOffice isn't it?
[13:01] <linda> if you install the complete suite yes I think so
[13:01] <ForgeAus> well I know what you mean, therefore its valid
[13:01] <linda> :)
[13:01] <thomasfuston> linda: thx alot , ther it is kdevelop :)
[13:01] <linda> yw :)
[13:01] <ForgeAus> brb
[13:02] <ForgeAus> kdevelop works with mono too now afiak at least C#
[13:02] <ForgeAus> hehe might be fun to see qt-boo!
[13:07] <Form0> Hey, anybody have a clue why sound doesn't work on mplayer/vlc/firefox, but works fine on system/amarok/kaffeine?
[13:13] <asif> hi all
[13:15] <bittin> hi
[13:26] <asif> hi bittin
[13:26] <asif> i am having problems with java on my machine
[13:26] <asif> can u or anyone help
[13:27] <bittin> i don't know that much about java =(
[13:28] <asif> no problem bittin
[13:28] <asif> how about anyone else
[13:28] <asif> ive installed the iced tea browser plugin
[13:29] <asif> and it still does not work properly
[13:29] <asif> even downloaded 64 bit java from suns website
[13:29] <asif> and still not working properly
[14:02] <tinlys> eloooooooooo
[14:06] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[14:10] <tinlys> elooooooooo
[14:20] <tobago> i have installed kubuntu and try to run amarok, but doesn't play mp3 though i installed the package ubuntu-restricted-extras, which should contain the mp3 codec.
[14:20] <tobago> what's missing/ giong wrong?
[14:20] <tobago> going
[14:23] <BluesKaj> tobago, kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:25] <tobago> BluesKaj, still the same issue. amarok doesn't play mp3.
[14:26] <sheldon> qtcreator doesn't work on kubuntu 10.04
[14:27] <sheldon> is there a way to obtain a functionally copy?
[14:28] <tobago> hey guys, how to force amarok playing mp3 as well?
[14:30] <sheldon> tobago: do you want to play mp3s with amarok?
[14:30] <tobago> sheldon, right
[14:30] <sheldon> tobago: install libxine1-all-plugins package
[14:31] <sheldon> from console -> sudo apt-get install libxine1-all-plugins
[14:32] <tobago> sheldon, worked fine. :)
[14:32] <sheldon> tobago: enjoy your music ;)
[14:33] <muimota> hi! no audio at all, it used to work but now it doesn't. Could some one give me a starting point to make tests and try to solve it?
[14:34] <phoenixac> hi, kann mir jemand bei einem wlan problem helfen?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> sheldon, odd that amarok no longer grabs that lib upon installation , I recall way back with edgy when it used to do the same thing. Of course i don't use amarok so i guess i should refrain from advising :)
[14:36] <phoenixac> mir fehlt die Option "Drahtlose Verbindungen aktivieren"
[14:37] <BluesKaj> !de | phoenixac
[14:38] <phoenixac> @ubottu, danke :)
[14:43] <ForgeAus> its so weird how netbook remixes are larger than the full-blown desktop distro
[14:50] <muimota> is there a easy way to remove pulse and go back to alsa?
[14:55] <adi_> hi all. how to make skype video work on kubuntu 10.04? anyidea.thanks
[14:55] <sheldon> anyone hase ibus daemon problem?? Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address.
[14:55] <sheldon> IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon
[14:59] <Peace-> sheldon: that is not enought
[14:59] <sheldon> Peace-: when i start any qt app from terminal this message appear. If i start ibus-daemon manually it disappears
[15:01] <sheldon> Peace-: sounds like it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/423525
[15:11] <r0xz> anyone knows a store where i can buy a QSXGA laptop?
[15:12] <r0xz> that is 2560 x 2048 pixels IIRC
[15:15] <sachael> is it possible to install kubuntu 10.04 from an existing linux installation, without burning a CD?
[15:16] <sachael> something like Wubi but for linux
[15:16] <Peace-> sachael: you mean usb stick ?
[15:16] <_jam> i upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04, and I've got several issues. one is that when I leave my laptop for an extended period, it seems like my user is logged out of KDE
[15:16] <Peace-> sachael: or a virtualbox
[15:16] <Peace-> !virtualbox | sachael
[15:16] <progre55> sachael: define: existing linux installation?
[15:17] <_jam> I'm not sure if it is an X crash or an actual logout though
[15:17] <sachael> not usb, not virtualbox. I have archlinux and some spare disk space. Is it possible to install (k)ubuntu from arch?
[15:17] <sachael> exactly like Wubi, but for linux
[15:17] <Peace-> mmm i guess no
[15:18] <Peace-> or virtual box
[15:18] <Peace-> or nothing i guess
[15:18] <sachael> I found a guide for ubuntu, but it's for 6.10. :/
[15:18] <Peace-> sachael: mm let me see it
[15:19] <progre55> sachael: not sure if arch is in the same family.. but you could try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[15:19] <Peace-> xD
[15:19] <Peace-> progre55: it's not apt system
[15:19] <progre55> oh, I told you I was not sure :)
[15:19] <tobago> on gnome i had a menubar with lots of icons for the tools i used (and as well as some monitors). how to in kde?
[15:20] <Peace-> tobago: add pager
[15:20] <Peace-> ah sorry
[15:20] <progre55> tobago: add a panel
[15:21] <mickkie> Hi All, I'm trying to connect to an ftp server and noticed that my freshly upgraded Kubuntu will no longer display files on the ftp server!  It seems to connect alright, but the window stays empty, as if there are no files on the server.  No problem when I connect from a terminal.  Is this a bug, or is it a matter of configuring Konqueror/Dolhpin?
[15:21] <progre55> tobago: I've got a custom panel on the left side, set to autohide..
[15:22] <Peace-> you should use this right button on here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wAnyRUbycs
[15:22] <Peace-> -.-
[15:22] <Peace-> tobago: http://imagebin.ca/view/ZaRE-roe.html
[15:23] <Peace-> mickkie: have ytou tried with a different user?
[15:23] <Peace-> mickkie: when you upgrade make sure you have a new fresh user
[15:24] <Peace-> because some old settings file could give you problems
[15:25] <tobago> Peace-, i already have the taskbar. i meant a additional iconbar for tool links.
[15:25] <mickkie> Peace- Thanks, all the settings and shortcuts are in the old user's account, do I really have to change user?
[15:26] <mickkie> Peace-: is there a big change between KDE4.3 and KDE4.4 to require a new user profile?
[15:26] <zus> i have some pgp questions, anyone  can help. i have my old folder i can paste into the new one and overwrite the files,...will then key  management pick it up and will it be a matter of configuring kmail to use the key correct?
[15:26] <Peace-> mickkie: you could rename $HOME/.kde
[15:27] <Peace-> mickkie: if you get problems... you can to give a try renaming that folder..
[15:27] <Peace-> a lots of time you can solve ...
[15:27] <mickkie> Peace-: right, then if it works I guess I'll have to migrate each application config file at a time.
[15:29] <mickkie> Thanks for your help.
[15:30] <Peace-> tobago: have you seen my screen?
[15:31] <Peace-> tobago: right button on games or whatever .. and add to panel
[15:31] <Peace-> :)
[15:31] <Peace-> simple
[15:31] <progre55> Peace-, tobago: here is my solutoin :) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1571029/left-panel.png
[15:31] <progre55> and it's auto-hide
[15:33] <Peace-> progre55: no...
[15:33] <Peace-> progre55: i have a better solution
[15:38] <progre55> Peace-: and what is it? I didnt really get it from your screenshot
[15:40] <progre55> Peace-: and the youtube video is removed, apparently
[15:40] <Peace-> progre55:  that was a mistake
[15:41] <Peace-> progre55: now i will post the image http://imagebin.ca/view/rDE6FM.html
[15:44] <progre55> Peace-: not bad, but I'm totally satisfied with mine :)
[15:46] <mickkie> Peace-: I've tried renaming .kde and then login into KDE afresh.  Unfortunately, the problem remains.  No files shown either in dolphin or konqueror.  Can you guys login into ftp servers alright?
[15:47] <_jam> fwiw, konqueror doesn't list the files in my home folder
[15:47] <_jam> does in other folders though
[15:47] <Peace-> mickkie: could you try with a live cd?
[15:47] <_jam> no, take that back. yesterday konqueror wasn't listing the files in my home folder, does now
[15:48] <mickkie> Peace-: OK will do and see what gives.
[15:49] <mickkie> Oops!  I just remembered - I don't have a Kubuntu CD
[15:49] <mickkie> Will need to use a normal Ubuntu - is that the same?
[15:49] <StefanT> entering "/home/stefan" in konqueror shows the contents of my home directory, using the Dolphin component.
[15:57] <mickkie> StefanT: have you looked at your .kde/share/config/konquerorrc settings?
[15:58] <mickkie> StefanT: in there you will have an entry which defines where your Home is.
[15:59] <mickkie> StefanT: Look for something like:  HomeURL=file:///home/stefan
[16:00] <mickkie> StefanT: it should be under a heading of: [UserSettings]
[16:10] <roberto_> hi - I started an install with "sudo apt-get intall ri" and said yes but then realized it was installing ruby1.8 and I want to stay a pure 1.9.1 install, so I killed that process -- it had just downloaded the packages and was unpacking the first when I did it
[16:10] <roberto_> how do I recover from that point so I can keep using apt-get ? just delete the lock file or is there more ?
[16:11] <StefanT> roberto_: sudo apt-get remove ri
[16:11] <StefanT> roberto_: or is there an error message?
[16:11] <roberto_> StefanT:  yes
[16:11] <StefanT> roberto_: which one?
[16:12] <roberto_> you can robably make it out, it's in spanish
[16:12] <roberto_> E: No se pudo bloquear /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Recurso temporalmente no disponible)
[16:12] <roberto_> E: Imposible bloquear el directorio de administración (/var/lib/dpkg/), ¿está otro proceso usándolo?
[16:12] <StefanT> roberto_: hmm, still locked it seems
[16:12] <roberto_> yea
[16:12] <roberto_> when I killed it, it left a lock file behind
[16:13] <StefanT> roberto_: sudo fuser -a /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[16:13] <StefanT> roberto_: tells you if any process still uses this file
[16:13] <roberto_> StefanT: I was the one that killed the process
[16:13] <roberto_> I know it's dead
[16:13] <Meuporg> hello
[16:14] <roberto_> I suspended with ^z and then sudo kill %1
[16:14] <roberto_> because ^c wasn't working
[16:14] <StefanT> roberto_: did the shell print that the %1 terminated?
[16:14] <roberto_> yes
[16:15] <roberto_> actually it s weird
[16:15] <roberto_> it said both
[16:15] <StefanT> hmm.... the error usually says that some process still has the file open.
[16:15] <StefanT> did you try the "fuser" command I posted?
[16:15] <roberto_> Error: garbage process id "%1"
[16:15] <roberto_> then [1]+  Detenido                sudo apt-get install ri
[16:16] <roberto_> I was reading the man page since I didnt recognize it :)
[16:16] <roberto_> it says "/var/lib/dpkg/lock:"
[16:16] <roberto_> no process after
[16:16] <StefanT> no process ID.... ok
[16:17] <StefanT> hmm....  ps aux|grep apt
[16:17] <roberto_> huh
[16:17] <roberto_> it's still there
[16:17] <roberto_> apt-get install ri
[16:17] <roberto_> I'll try to kill it again
[16:17] <StefanT> kill -9 ....
[16:18] <roberto_> oo now it's dead :)
[16:18] <StefanT> it is somewhat dangerous to kill apt & co, that is why ^c does not work
[16:18] <StefanT> :)
[16:18] <StefanT> now remove ri ....
[16:18] <StefanT> sudo apt-get remove ri
[16:18] <StefanT> or it will be installed again next time
[16:18] <roberto_> thank you StefanT , that was great
[16:19] <roberto_> great help
[16:19] <StefanT> you are welcome, roberto_
[16:19] <StefanT> just to be sure: sudo apt-get -f install
[16:20] <roberto_> it didnt install anything but.. I do have 0/0/0/9 packages in the four states at the bottom
[16:21] <StefanT> roberto_: the "apt-get -f install" is to be sure that the packages are in a consitent state
[16:21] <roberto_> i did that .. and autoremove too
[16:21] <StefanT> roberto_: "sudo apt-get autoremove" removes packages that were installed by some dependencies but are not required anymore
[16:22] <roberto_> just incase the ri install managed to put some ruby1.8 deps on my system :) -- but it didnt
[16:22] <StefanT> roberto_: so you could have waited until "ri" & co was installed, then remove it, and then do "autoremove" to get rid of all packages that were installed too.
[16:22] <roberto_> yea I see it
[16:22] <StefanT> ok, roberto_, fine :)
[16:23] <roberto_> bye, thanks again
[16:28] <_jam> when I open a window via the system tray (e.g. amarok, konversation, etc.), the window comes to the forefront visually, but does not grab keyboard focus
[16:28] <_jam> it worked fine in 9.10
[16:29] <_jam> is there a setting someplace to allow it to grab keyboard focus?
[16:30] <tobago> mmh. i still don't know how to create a icon panel (containing the links to the tools)?
[16:33] <StefanT> tobago: Kde 4?
[16:33] <tobago> StefanT, yes.
[16:33] <tobago> lucid
[16:34] <StefanT> tobago, its a desktop applet, called quickstart - translated to your language
[16:35] <StefanT> tobago: click into the desktop and press Alt-D and then A (without Alt)
[16:35] <StefanT> tobago: its a starting grey/black rocket icon
[16:36] <tobago> StefanT, a bar with lots of minitools raises.
[16:36] <StefanT> yes
[16:36] <StefanT> moment
[16:36] <StefanT> on top are category buttons
[16:36] <tobago> right
[16:37] <StefanT> search the "program starters" category
[16:37] <tobago> got it
[16:37] <StefanT> ok, drag&drop it to where you want it
[16:37] <StefanT> to the desktop also works
[16:40] <tobago> StefanT, i want those links in a bar. i didn't mean quickstart. i mean a bar, where i can put the links to the tools i often use. (in gnome it was a top bar).
[16:40] <StefanT> tobago: you mean an extra toolbar with those icons?
[16:41] <tobago> StefanT, yes
[16:41] <StefanT> tobago: then add a toolbar first, and then add the "quickstart" applet to this toolbar.
[16:42] <tobago> adding a new "controlbar" doesn't add a bar (as i expected). it just adds a rounded corner in top right corner and another one in the top left corner, but not a bar.
[16:43] <StefanT> tobago: for me it adds a short bar in the top left corner
[16:43] <StefanT> clicking the button there allows to configure the bar
[16:44] <tobago> StefanT, and adding new minitools, it puts them onto the desktop like screenlets/ widget applets.
[16:44] <tobago> ah i seem to be able to configure it... i'll play with it.
[16:44] <StefanT> ok
[16:45] <StefanT> tobago: drag the plasmoids (the mini tools) into this new bar
[16:46] <tobago> StefanT, yep, seems to work. thanks a lot. :)
[16:46] <StefanT> tobago you are welcome
[16:47] <tobago> StefanT, first impression i got of kde comparing it with gnome: kde looks more mac-stylee.
[16:47] <StefanT> tobago: hmm, yes, quite possible
[16:49] <StefanT> tobago: I "grew up" with Kde (or the other way around), I have never tried Gnome.
[17:16] <Erthe> Anyone know how to get Amarok to use MySQL in 10.04?
[17:16] <Erthe> I set the database settings, rescanned my collection and Amarok doesn't create so much as a single table.
[17:33] <draik> Hello everyone. I'm on 10.04 and suddenly lost the use of X server. I heard of some losing it from the start. Is there a solution?
[17:35] <draik> !nvidia
[17:41] <draik> None of the nVidia drivers will install.
[17:41] <draik> $ lspci | grep -i nvidia
[17:41] <draik> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GS] (rev a2)
[17:44] <BluesKaj> draik, that should use the nvidia current driver
[17:45] <draik> BluesKaj: It won't install.
[17:46] <draik> BluesKaj: 09:41:14,716 DEBUG: nvidia_current the driver is not enabled in all of the relevant device sections
[17:46] <BluesKaj> draik, sudo service kdm stop ..first , you can't run X even if it doesn't load when installing video drivers
[17:48] <BluesKaj> draik, then , sudo lshw -C video , find the driver and uninstall it unless it's the nvidia-current
[17:50] <BluesKaj> draik, X can only handle one video driver at atime , so the present driver has to be removed before the new one can install
[17:52] <Dolgo> bonjour !
[17:53] <Dolgo> j'ai un petit doute dans la modification de grub.cfg
[17:53] <BluesKaj> Dolgo, hi
[17:53] <Dolgo> quelqu'un peut il me conseiller?
[17:53] <Dolgo> depuis l'ugrade, j'ai en tout 6 lignes au grub
[17:54] <Dolgo> je souhaite simplement démarrer la dernière ligne par defaut
[17:54] <bdizzle> #kubuntu-fr
[17:54] <bdizzle> !fr
[17:54] <BluesKaj> allez a #kubuntu-fr ou #ubuntu-fr
[17:54] <Dolgo> oops, sorry i thougt it was frenche
[17:54] <bdizzle> its fine
[17:55] <BluesKaj> Dolgo, run sudo update-grub
[17:55] <bdizzle> I'm trying to figure out how to see which partition I have on which device
[17:55] <bdizzle> when I installed it, I had root, home, and another drive all on different partitions
[17:55] <BluesKaj> !gparted
[17:55] <bdizzle> now that I am trying to install 10.04, I can't remember which one I installed which onto
[17:56] <bdizzle> is it possible to find this out?
[17:56] <bdizzle> I've tried sudo fdisk -l, but that just tells me the space on each partition, not which is which
[17:56] <BluesKaj> yes, bdizzle check my post above
[17:56] <bdizzle> ah, thanks
[17:57] <bdizzle> perfect, that is exactly what i need
[17:58] <bdizzle> okay, off to go upgrade
[17:58] <bdizzle> later all
[17:58] <BluesKaj> bdizzle, I recommend burning the gparted live cd ...it comes in very handy if you do alot of partitioning or reinstalling etc
[17:58] <bdizzle> right now I'm just upgrading off of the USB drive
[17:58] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:59] <bdizzle> thank you for the help
[17:59] <Dolgo> ok, thx BluesKaj, i'm helped
[17:59] <BluesKaj> np, Dolgo
[18:02] <Erthe> Has anyone successfully connected Amarok to MySQL in 10.04?
[18:12] <Matisse> hello
[18:14] <Matisse> yesterday or so I thought I solved my flash-kills-firefox-problem, but now FF is crashing again when opening a video page (f.e. a youtube vid)
[18:14] <Matisse> I deactivated one of the 2 flash plugins in the addons menu
[18:15] <Matisse> i did work after i did that, but not after restart (dont know if after restarting FF or kubuntu)
[18:15] <Matisse> *it did work...
[18:17] <adi_> hi all. kubuntu 10.04 and skype video problems... anyone can help? thanks
[18:18] <adi_> i tried all the ld preload comands
[18:18] <adi_> but no result
[18:18] <adi_> i have a creative webcam
[18:18] <Byron> BluesKaj: I'm looking at the "sudo lshw -C video" output and I don't see a mention for any drivers
[18:19] <Matisse> adi_, describe the problem
[18:20] <adi_> i cant make it work skype with video
[18:20] <adi_> latest skype version with kubuntu 10.04 on dell 6400 wih a creative webcam exterior
[18:21] <adi_> i have audio with skype but no video
[18:21] <adi_> cant make it work. anyone any idea?
[18:26] <adi_> Matisse | you there?
[18:28] <Matisse> adi_, yes, but i wanted you to describe it for the others. I have no idea :)
[18:28] <adi_> ok thanks
[18:29] <Matisse> did it work before? on kubuntu 9.xy
[18:30] <inteliwasp> has anyone reported any problems with the nvidia binary drivers on 10.04?
[18:33] <Byron> inteliwasp: I am. Still trying to make it work
[18:34] <starboy> hi people
[18:34] <starboy> I'm running Kubuntu 10.04, and my Skype just stopped working
[18:34] <starboy> Any ideas?
[18:35] <inteliwasp> Byron: thanks for letting me know
[18:35] <flavio_> inteliwasp: Are you trying the ubuntu included drivers or those of the nvidia site?
[18:36] <Waspy_away> flavio_:  ether or
[18:37] <Byron> I can't install the nvidia site's driver and I don't have anything listed in my Restricted Drivers
[18:38] <starboy> what's the best way to uninstall an app on Kubuntu?
[18:38] <flavio_> inteliwasp: You have to enable the partner repository
[18:38] <Byron> starboy: sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>
[18:38] <flavio_> inteliwasp: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:39] <starboy> thanks Byron  ;)
[18:39] <Byron> You're welcome, starboy
[18:40] <inteliwasp> flavio_:  is there any known issue with the built in driver, i tried it on 9.10 but it broke x server
[18:41] <inteliwasp> i mean the retricted driver
[18:41] <Byron> When I try to install the one from -current, it fails and states that another one is in use. I don't have any nvidia driver in use.
[18:42] <Byron> ??? now it says that it was just disabled and computer needs a restart because it is still in user
[18:42] <Byron> s/user/use
[18:43] <flavio_> inteliwasp: The built in, are you reffering to the Nouveau?
[18:43] <flavio_> inteliwasp: Ubuntu uses now the Nouveua drivers by default
[18:43] <ghaleb> hello guys, I upgraded my ubuntu to lucid, and then I couldn't start my vmware player nor vmware-workstation, any clue ?
[18:45] <flavio_> ghaleb: Run the vmware config tool again.
[18:45] <Byron> flavio_: I'm having the same nvidia issue. Should I remove the nouveau package?
[18:47] <ghaleb> flavio_: thank you, I did, nothing happened, here is the log http://pastebin.org/213967
[18:49] <Matisse> yesterday or so I thought I solved my flash-kills-firefox-problem, but now FF is crashing again when opening a video page (f.e. a youtube vid)
[18:49] <flavio_> Byron: Try the nvidia binaries,
[18:49] <Matisse> any idea?
[18:49] <flavio_> Byron: System, Hardware Drivers
[18:49] <Matisse> solving means: I deactivated one of the 2 flash plugins in the addons menu (since upgrade to Kubuntu 10)
[18:50] <Byron> flavio_: Those fail. It tells me there is already one in use, yet none of them are activated
[18:51] <flavio_> ghaleb: Install the package build-essential and try again
[18:53] <z5r100> hello, i have a problem when installing the wlan interface on my dell latitude d600, interface is a broudcon bcm4303. inormation from iwconfig is 'essid:off/any'
[18:53] <Peace-> !broadcom
[18:53] <Peace-> !broadcom | z5r100
[18:53] <fbxxkl> anyone here good with RAID?  I Am trying to set up my computer for as much room as possible, I have 3 hard drives, 750gb 500gb/2  I would basically like to string all three drives together as 1, I am not concerned about redundancy
[18:53] <Byron> flavio_: "A different version of this driver is in use" That's what it says about the nvidia-common through System > Hardware Drivers
[18:55] <spirov92> can you guys recommend good shoutcast software?
[18:56] <daweed> hello
[18:56] <spirov92> hai
[18:56] <daweed> good morning
[18:56] <daweed> how is it going?
[18:57] <flavio_> Byron: See the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, see if you can detect what video driver your X is using
[18:57] <flavio_> Byron: Wait
[18:57] <daweed> how can i burn the videos from youtube to a dvd
[18:58] <flavio_> Byron: You tried to install the nvidia from upstream? Remove the using the usptream script, reinstall the ubuntu nvidia packages and try again.
[18:58] <z5r100> ubottu: thanks, i will have a lock
[18:58] <daweed> or how can i convert the videos from youtube to a format valid to burn in k3d
[18:59] <flavio_> daweed: Im using xvideoservicethief from the getdeb site.
[19:00] <Byron> flavio_: How do I remove the upstream script?
[19:01] <flavio_> Byron: Not sure, but run the nvidia scripit with the -h or --help and see what they say
[19:01] <Byron> flavio_: What nvidia script?
[19:02] <flavio_> Byron: Did you used the drivers provided by the nvidia website?
[19:03] <daweed> Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (apt) isn't associated with any program.
[19:03] <Byron> flavio_: I tried, but it wouldn't install
[19:03] <flavio_> Byron: How?
[19:04] <daweed> flavio_: Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (apt) isn't associated with any program. is what it say when i try to downoad what can i do?
[19:04] <flavio_> daweed: Excuse me, but do read the site instructions to use the packages it provides.
[19:04] <flavio_> daweed: http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/all#how_to_install
[19:06] <Byron> flavio_: Can't install the kernel packages and it errors out at that point
[19:08] <flavio_> Byron: Ok, let's get through this. Open dolphin, navigate where is the nvidia install script.
[19:10] <Byron> flavio_: OK
[19:10] <flavio_> Byron: Press F4, a terminal should open
[19:11] <Byron> flavio_: OK
[19:12] <flavio_> write "sudo" an espace, Start to write the nvidia installer name and press TAB to complete the rest
[19:13] <flavio_> Byron: It should read sudo Nvidia-installer-whatever.sh
[19:13] <Byron> ok
[19:14] <bentob0x> I have been trying to install Kubuntu 10.04 and I keep on having a grub rescue> prompt with a "out of disk" error, I'm installing this on a 500Gb hard drive with a 8Gb swap partition being first on the hard drive, anybody would know how I can pass that error?
[19:15] <flavio_> bentob0x: First try to use a small /boot partition on the start of the disk
[19:15] <ghaleb> flavio_: installed and the newest version
[19:16] <flavio_> byron: What happens when you press enter?
[19:16] <made_man> hello all
[19:16] <bentob0x> what size should that /boot partition be flavio_ ?
[19:17] <Byron> flavio_: Command not found.
[19:17] <made_man> i've uninstalled the nvidia drivers from my pc and the nouveau module replaced them after the reboot
[19:17] <flavio_> bentob0x: My current boot partition uses 33MB, 256MB should have plenty of room
[19:17] <made_man> how can i reinstall nvidia drivers?
[19:17] <Byron> flavio_: Should that have been "sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-195.36.24-pkg1.run"?
[19:17] <flavio_> Byron: Yes
[19:18] <flavio_> ghaleb: try running vmware config again
[19:18] <bentob0x> ok will try this, thx flavio_
[19:18] <made_man> install the nvidia package? i thought it should be done from apt...
[19:18] <made_man> not the nvidia site
[19:18] <flavio_> made_man: just debbuging
[19:18] <Byron> flavio_: Error: You appear to be running an X server: please exit X before installing.
[19:19] <flavio_> Byron: ok, try running again with a -h or --help at the end
[19:19] <made_man> so it's ok to install the nvidia thing straight from their site?
[19:19] <ghaleb> flavio_: to be clear, vmware-modconfig, right ?
[19:20] <flavio_> made_man: No,
[19:20] <made_man> flavio_: no?
[19:20] <flavio_> ghaleb: Not using vmware anymore, should be vmware-conig-whatever, if I remember.
[19:20] <ghaleb> flavio_: I see, what do you use ?
[19:21] <flavio_> made_man: No, he tried to use the upstrem nvidia, I am tring to uninstall it
[19:21] <made_man> oh, ok
[19:21] <flavio_> ghaleb: VirtualBox, but ver light usage
[19:21] <flavio_> very
[19:22] <ghaleb> flavio_: yes I used it, but it's not that powerful as vmwar
[19:22] <ghaleb> I will try to use it if I couldn't solve the vmware problem
[19:23] <flavio_> ghaleb: But is apparently more light on resources, I hardly use it, so it's ok with me.
[19:23] <flavio_> Byron: Any luck?
[19:24] <ghaleb> flavio_: yes yes absolutely,
[19:24] <Byron> flavio_: It only has -a (accept), --update (update the driver), -v (version), -h (help) and -A (Advanced options)
[19:25] <flavio_> Byron: Try the -h option, see if it lists a uninstall option
[19:25] <Byron> flavio_: Nope, to uninstall option
[19:26] <Byron> flavio_: found it
[19:26] <flavio_> Byron: Try it
[19:27] <Byron> flavio_: there is no NVIDIA driver currently installed
[19:27] <flavio_> Byron: too bad
[19:28] <flavio_> Byron: Try to reinstall the nvidia kubuntu packages
[19:28] <Byron> flavio_: I have; still no change
[19:28] <BluesKaj> Byron, one can always fall back on the venerable , lspci | grep VGA ,then do a search for the required driver
[19:29] <Byron> BluesKaj: I'm running on vesa right now. That's how I have a GUI on the desktop
[19:30] <flavio_> Byron: Have you installed other proprietary drivers also, let's say, ati or intel ones? I had a problem on a system with a intel card where i installed nvidia packages.
[19:31] <Byron> flavio_: Nope. No other drivers
[19:31] <flavio_> Byron:  Ok, when using the Nouveua driver your system crashed, right?
[19:32] <Byron> flavio_: yup
[19:33] <flavio_> Byron:  Unistall the nouveua drivers, install the nvidia driver (The free, bundled with the xorg), remove the custom xorg you probrabily used.
[19:33] <Byron> flavio_: My current xorg is only the "vesa" driver, nothing special
[19:33] <flavio_> Byron:  Then try to use the proprietary drivers again via the restricetd drivers.
[19:34] <harjot> anyone have hp laptop here?
[19:34] <flavio_> Byron:  Exactly, but, If i remenber, current X doesn't use a xorg file anymore, my guess this is the cause the proprietary ubuntu can't configure you X
[19:35] <Byron> flavio_: It's not currently installed.
[19:35] <flavio_> Byron, the nouveu drivers?
[19:35] <Byron> flavio_: Correct
[19:35] <flavio_> the nvidia-xorg package is installed?
[19:36] <yofel> there is no such package, it's either nvidia-current/nvidia-173/nvidia-96 for lucid or nvidia-glx-185 etc. for karmic and before
[19:37] <Byron> flavio_: Nope
[19:37] <flavio_> Byron, unistall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, install xserver-xorg-video-nv, and restart the X server
[19:37] <flavio_> Byron, And don't use a custom xorg.conf
[19:39] <Byron> flavio_: Should I just delete the current xorg.conf file?
[19:40] <flavio_> Byron: move it to other location.
[19:43] <Byron> flavio_: OK. done
[19:44] <daweed> im installing get deb and askme to an aplication to run
[19:45] <daweed> flavio_: im sorry my computer shutdown it self
[19:46] <flavio_> Byron: When you restart the xserver it would pick the nv driver, wich is very stable by now. After that you should be able to use the Ubuntu nvidia drivers. Try it.
[19:46] <flavio_> daweed: http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/all#how_to_install
[19:47] <flavio_> daweed: Follow these instructions
[19:47] <daweed> flavio_:  yeah tnks
[19:47] <daweed> and there is a file
[19:47] <daweed> to download
[19:47] <Byron> flavio_: Looking good. It seems that the current driver is being used/activated. Restarting the desktop.
[19:47] <daweed> but it say somthing abouth null
[19:48] <flavio_> daweed: Download the deb file and in a terminal do sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb
[19:49] <daweed> ok ill do it in a termninal is better
[19:49] <daweed> tnks
[19:50] <Reign1> guys, dont get it, whats the problem? http://pastebin.com/5MJbJPM1
[19:50] <daweed> it work
[19:51] <Byron> flavio_: It says it is using it, but I can't use any desktop effects nor can I use my dual monitors
[19:52] <Marcel> who can't help me with something?
[19:54] <marcel1983> how to change mac adress in kubuntu?
[19:54] <marcel1983> pls help
[19:54] <daweed> flavio_: it work but still not installing xVideoServiceThief
[19:54] <Byron> !ask | marcel1983
[19:54] <flavio_> daweed: What happens?
[19:55] <flavio_> Byron: See the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, let me see it.
[19:56] <daweed> flavio_:  i got a go but thanks latter ill try againn
[19:56] <flavio_> dawed OK
[19:58] <Byron> flavio_: http://pastebin.com/GqDTKjs9
[20:02] <Reign1> whats the problem? http://pastebin.com/5MJbJPM1
[20:03] <flavio_> Byron: Use the nvidia-settings program to create a nem xorg.conf
[20:04] <Byron> flavio_: "sudo nvidia-xorg"?
[20:04] <flavio_> Byron: sudo nvidia-settings
[20:06] <bdizzle> hi
[20:06] <bdizzle> okay, so I got 10.04 install,ed but now everything is missing and it won't let me install any packages
[20:06] <bdizzle> I tried the basics of installing firefox, claims its already installed (its not) and
[20:06] <Byron> flavio_: It is telling me that I don't appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver and should run "nvidia-xconfig" as root, then restart X.
[20:06] <bdizzle> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[20:06] <bdizzle> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[20:06] <bdizzle> is only available from another source
[20:07] <flavio_> Byron: Try this
[20:09] <flavio_> bdizzle: Check your /etc/apt/sources.list , it should reffer to the lucid release now.
[20:10] <bdizzle> okay
[20:10] <sandro_> .
[20:12] <bdizzle> flavio, tried that, not working
[20:12] <bdizzle> I did a fresh install over, but kept the same home partition as before
[20:12] <bdizzle> I need to get konversation, firefox, wicd and pidgen working
[20:13] <Reign1> can anyone tell me why am i having this problem? http://pastebin.com/5MJbJPM1
[20:13] <Byron> flavio_: What would you like me to try?
[20:13] <bawww> is there a front end for clamav on KDE?
[20:13] <bawww> like clamtk is the gnome front end, right?
[20:13] <bawww> i mean GTK/Gnome
[20:14] <flavio_> bdizzle: http://pastebin.com/xSKDgyCx this is my sources.list, use this and do a apt-get update, apt -f install, apt-get upgrade
[20:15] <flavio_> Byron: run "nvidia-xconfig" as root, then restart X.
[20:15] <flavio_> Byron: The nvidia drivers are installed, but not being used, I don't know why
[20:15] <flavio_> Byron: Maybe the above command will do the trick
[20:17] <bdizzle> ugh
[20:17] <bdizzle> could someone help me with this please?
[20:17] <bdizzle> its starting to frustrate me
[20:19] <Byron> flavio_: I tried that and I don't have X
[20:22] <bdizzle> great, amarok isn't working either
[20:22] <bdizzle> wtf
[20:24] <BluesKaj> bdizzle, sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg
[20:24] <flavio_> Byron: What a mess. Delete the xorg.conf and restart the X,  If it not work copy your old xorg.conf file back in place
[20:25] <Byron> I'm running right now without the xorg.conf. After no X, I took it out and did "startx" from TTY1
[20:26] <bdizzle> claims I cannot get a lock on /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[20:26] <BluesKaj> Byron, sudo service kdm start, then startx
[20:27] <BluesKaj> bdizzle, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[20:28] <bdizzle> thanks
[20:28] <bdizzle> I knew there was a command for it, couldn't remember it
[20:28] <bdizzle> still claiming I can't get a lock
[20:28] <BluesKaj> bdizzle, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[20:29] <bdizzle> got it
[20:29] <flavio_> Byron: Apparently you have multiple xorg drivers installed, and X is not using the nvidia ones. Unusual, I remember we unistalled every other package on your system.
[20:29] <bdizzle> okay, now I just need firefox to install, and then find pidgen and konversation
[20:30] <Byron> flavio_: Should the driver be "nvidia" or "nv"?
[20:30] <flavio_> Byron: nvidia
[20:30] <bdizzle> I take it I have to install libdvdcs as well?
[20:30] <bdizzle> or whatever that package name is to make dvd's run
[20:31] <BluesKaj> yeah, libdvdcss2
[20:31] <Byron> bdizzle: w32codecs, too
[20:31] <Byron> or w64codes, depending on your system
[20:31] <bdizzle> okay
[20:31] <BluesKaj> bdizzle, i'd checkout medibuntu as well
[20:31] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[20:31] <bdizzle> yeah, I know
[20:31] <Byron> You need medibuntu for the packages
[20:31] <bdizzle> I wasn't expecting everything to break when I did the install
[20:32] <BluesKaj> it's not broken , so much as not installed
[20:32] <bdizzle> fun
[20:33] <bdizzle> ah, okay, since I just upgraded, everything is deactivated and I have to run through it agian
[20:33] <Byron> flavio_: It keeps failing to load the "nvidia" driver
[20:34] <Byron> flavio_: Fatal Server Error: no screens found
[20:34] <bdizzle> so why is it my firefox icons have been replaced with firefox installer, and then it runs, claims its already installed, then won't let me load firefox?
[20:35] <BluesKaj> Byron, then you need to remove the existing driver , stop X /kdm and install the nvidia-current driver
[20:35] <Byron> BluesKaj: That's the driver being used, per Restricted Drivers
[20:36] <flavio_> Byron: Try restart using only one monitor
[20:36] <Byron> flavio_: It only sees it as one monitor; both monitors show the same thing
[20:37] <Reign1> problem making applet, whats the problem in here guys? anyone? http://pastebin.com/yKvDcJpr
[20:38] <flavio_> Byron: Ok, but wtah if xorg cant configure both screens? try to use one moniotr only (remove the other), if the x starts, you can plug the other and use nvidia-settings to configure the other.
[20:42] <BluesKaj> yeah Byron nvidia settings control panel is the way to configure dual monitors
[20:44] <flavio_> Byron: But X is not working yet, he has to try to use one monitor only, to see if X will work with the nvidia driver.
[20:46] <BluesKaj> Byron, did you run sudo service kdm start , then startx ?
[20:47] <BluesKaj> Byron, i assume you're still at the tty
[20:48] <flavio_> BluesKaj: I gotta go, could you please continue helping Byron? Thanks
[20:49] <BluesKaj> ok flavio_ ,i'll try :)
[20:54] <progre55> hi people! what the hack is knotify4?
[20:54] <progre55> and why is it eating up my cpu? )
[20:55] <progre55> anyways, killed it =)
[20:55] <bdizzle> progre55, its how the system lets you know of events
[20:55] <bdizzle> its kinda critical, I'd leave it
[20:56] <progre55> bdizzle: too late =)
[21:00] <heinkel_111> i am going to upgrade kubuntu 9.04 --> 9.10 from dvd-rom, can someone help me find the right name for the dvd-rom source? ie, for 9.04 the dvd-rom name in /etc/apt/sources.list is deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release amd64 (20090421.2)]/ jaunty main restricted
[21:00] <heinkel_111> what is the equivalent name for 9.10 - still need the strange spaces and underscores?
[21:05] <skynet> quelqun parle francais?
[21:06] <DarthFrog> !fr|skynet
[21:07] <Dark_Wizard> What the name of the kubuntu package "KDevelop"? I can not find it
[21:07] <heinkel_111> apt-cache show kdevelop
[21:08] <heinkel_111> without the capitals
[21:08] <heinkel_111> Dark_Wizard: ^
[21:08] <heinkel_111> the name is kdevelop
[21:08] <BluesKaj> heinkel_111, get the karmic equivalent dvdrom
[21:09] <heinkel_111> BluesKaj: I already have the DVDrom
[21:09] <heinkel_111> I just need to set it as the only source, but I cannot remember how to find the name of it
[21:10] <Dark_Wizard> heinkel_111, not found a package with the name "kdevelop"
[21:10] <heinkel_111> i am a bit rusty after not prioritizing updates for a year
[21:10] <BluesKaj> heinkel_111, look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:11] <heinkel_111> BluesKaj: in my 9.04 installation it says deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release amd64 (20090421.2)]/ jaunty main restricted
[21:11] <heinkel_111> but that is the 9.04 line - what does it say for 9.10?
[21:11] <Reign1> did you guys manage to install adjustableclock?
[21:11] <DarthFrog> kdevelop is in backports.
[21:13] <BluesKaj> heinkel_111, yes it would ..in order to upgrade to karmic 9.10 you need to upgrade your source dvdrom, if that's the route you want to take , however, i recommend upgrading by  doing sudo aptitude update && sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:13] <Dark_Wizard> DarthFrog, and how do I then install this package?
[21:14] <DarthFrog> Dark_Wizard: Enable backports in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[21:16] <heinkel_111> BluesKaj: you are recommending the GUI upgrader, right - I am thinking of doing it using the command line interface, as i occasionally run into problems with graphics on updates
[21:16] <heinkel_111> upgrades not updates sry
[21:16] <Dark_Wizard> DarthFrog, thanks!
[21:17] <heinkel_111> BluesKaj: I have upgraded this way before - setting the new dvdrom as only source and then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:17] <BluesKaj> heinkel_111, those commands i just posted are for the command line
[21:18] <heinkel_111> BluesKaj: well, a different way of doing it with the CLI, then :)
[21:18] <BluesKaj> heinkel_111, sudo -do-release-upgrade is now the preferred way
[21:18] <vebriant> hi all
[21:19] <heinkel_111> BluesKaj: and it is a  pure CLI experience? I thought that would start the GUI upgrade tool
[21:19] <vebriant> pls asisst me install gyachi
[21:19] <vebriant> anyone know ?
[21:19] <BluesKaj> heinkel_111, sorry, sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:19] <heinkel_111> got it ;)
[21:21] <BluesKaj> heinkel_111, that command will auto update your sources.list , you will need to uncomment the rest of the debs to install from the other repos
[21:21] <heinkel_111> BluesKaj: do you know if do-release-upgrade will see that I have the DVD rom to upgrade from  in my drive?
[21:21] <BluesKaj> afterwards
[21:21] <michael__> hi everyone! I wonder if one of you wouldnt mind helping me. I just updated to 10.04 and my task bar seems to have disappeared. How may I go about restoring this?
[21:22] <heinkel_111> BluesKaj: I want to read data from the DVD rom initially, then update across the net afterwards
[21:22] <BluesKaj> heinkel_111, you don't want to use the dvdrom to upgrade from, because it's still an old source
[21:23] <heinkel_111> BluesKaj: can you please explain a little bit more?
[21:23] <BluesKaj> just update from the net then upgrade to the new version
[21:23] <heinkel_111> ?
[21:23] <BluesKaj> ithe dvd is still jaunty , not karmic
[21:24] <heinkel_111> the DVD is 9.10 (which is old, but what i want to upgrade to...)
[21:24] <BluesKaj> oh
[21:25] <BluesKaj> I assumed it was jaunty , sorry
[21:25] <heinkel_111> i plan to upgrade to 10.04 later, after I have downloaded the 10.04 DVD torrent but on my line it takes a while
[21:26] <slow-motion> hi
[21:26] <BluesKaj> heinkel_111, i see
[21:26] <heinkel_111> I am going to take my chances hacking the DVD source name, if no one can provide me with the exact wording.... :-)
[21:26] <Reign1> anyone using adjustableclock and got clockapplet.h file?
[21:26] <heinkel_111> Q: i am going to upgrade kubuntu 9.04 --> 9.10 from dvd-rom, can someone help me find the right name for the dvd-rom source? ie, for 9.04 the dvd-rom name in /etc/apt/sources.list is deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release amd64 (20090421.2)]/ jaunty main restricted
[21:27] <heinkel_111> what is the 9.10 equivalent
[21:27] <heinkel_111> ?
[21:28] <BluesKaj> just change the jaunty jackolope to karmic koala
[21:28] <tsimpson> heinkel_111: you don't need to touch your sources.list, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[21:29] <BluesKaj> gotta go ,BBL
[21:30] <tsimpson> actually https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD for the lucid instructions
[21:30] <tsimpson> and don't worry about the mount part with a real DVD
[21:30] <heinkel_111> BluesKaj: thank you
[21:38] <Reign1> guys, why cant i see /usr/include/plasmaclock/clockapplet.h in kdebase-workspace?
[21:38] <Reign1> this file is listed there
[21:41] <Reign1> its in 4:4:3 at least, im on 4:4:4, isnt it there anymore?
[21:46] <kubuntiano> Hi
[21:47] <kubuntiano> Hello, guys I use Kubuntu and I upgraded to version 10.4 but I had many problems so I decided to update it again, so I created a partition (before I used the entire disk) and the partition I installed the new 10.04 and I transferred my data from a partition (the old) to another (the new one) now I need to delete the old partition and reunify the disc, as I do without losing new data on the partition?
[21:49] <Kubry> kubuntiano, you can try the KDE partition manager to delete partitions and increase partitions
[21:50] <Kubry> sudo apt-get install partitionmanager
[21:51] <kubuntiano> kubry, no, I'm now using the new partition and do not let me edit.
[21:51] <Kubry> you can download the latest Knoppix
[21:52] <Kubry> boot with the Knoppix cdrom, and use gparted to do so
[21:52] <kubuntiano> kubry, What is Knoppix?
[21:53] <Kubry> (i mean, to delete partitions and increase the size of partitions)
[21:53] <ubuntu> which file system is good at recovering data when lost , deleted. and which survives better in system craches? i think its not ext3/4. is there any other file system that i can use to install *buntu?
[21:54] <Kubry> Ubuntu: i use ext3/ext4
[21:54] <ubuntu> Kubry:  then you cannot recover files if deleted
[21:54] <BluesKaj> kubuntiano, or download and burn gparted live cd to rezise your new partition
[21:55] <Kubry> Ubuntu: the files I delete with KDE go to its bin
[21:56] <Kubry> so I can recover them from there
[21:56] <kubuntiano> BluesKaj, tu cosa mi consigli?
[21:57] <kubuntiano> BluesKaj, what do you advise me?
[21:57] <bdizzle> hi
[21:57] <Reign1> wheres /usr/include/plasmaclock/clockapplet.h in kdebase-workspace 4.4.4?
[21:57] <Kubry> Ubuntu: and if I have installed "trash-cli" (http://code.google.com/p/trash-cli/wiki/Download) if I have to delete something in the command line
[21:57] <bdizzle> okay, I got things better on my laptop, now to have fun with the desktop
[21:57] <bdizzle> first off, it can't find the partition table
[21:57] <Reign1> wheres /usr/include/plasmaclock/clockapplet.h in kdebase-workspace 4.4.4? it was there in 4.4.3
[21:58] <bdizzle> I'm booting off the liveCD and am in grub, entered "find /boot/grub/stage1" and it returns "Error 15: File not found"
[22:00] <BluesKaj> kubuntiano, as I posted earlier , use gparted live cd to resize your new partition
[22:02] <kubuntiano> BluesKaj, Yes, with gpart live resize the partition with the new kubuntu. Thank you. Ps. Do not risk losing my data?
[22:03] <bawww> great job on akondai google data
[22:03] <bawww> i just synced my google calendar
[22:03] <bdizzle_> UGH
[22:03] <bawww> only thing is the way contacts are imported
[22:03] <bawww> not all info is included
[22:04] <bdizzle_> it managed to lose the location (or existence) of the partition table
[22:04] <bdizzle_> anyone know how to get it back?
[22:04] <bdizzle_> I'm trying to re-install grub and its not working, I keep getting error messages of things not found
[22:04] <bdizzle_> I should have five or six partitions showing when I do sudo fdisk -l  , but only three are shown
[22:04] <bdizzle_> none of them being the linux drives
[22:04] <BluesKaj> kubuntiano, no , you'll be fine as long as you choose the new kubuntu partition
[22:05] <bawww> bdizzle_: there's a great tutorial on ubuntu wiki
[22:05] <bawww> i think it has a section for partition table recovery
[22:05] <bdizzle_> baww, okay
[22:05] <bawww> let me see if i can find it for you
[22:06] <bdizzle_> thanks
[22:07] <bawww> bdizzle_: here you go https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[22:07] <bdizzle_> I can't even boot into windows to get the good data off, let alone verify if the old data is still there
[22:07] <bawww> there are some really powerful tools mentioned in that guide
[22:08] <bawww> if you didn't delete it and it's not really badly damaged you have a good chance at recovering the data
[22:08] <bdizzle__> okay, where can I find a gparted disk?
[22:09] <julio-PE> what happened to kate? K menu -> Lost&Found -> Kate? i reinstall it, but continues at this place, without icon
[22:10] <julio-PE> tnks in advance!!
[22:11] <bdizzle__> yeah, thanks bawww, but I think my computer is royally hosed
[22:12] <BluesKaj> julio-PE, alt+f2 , kate
[22:12] <julio-PE> BluesKaj: it works
[22:13] <julio-PE> but is at Lost&Found
[22:13] <julio-PE> without icon
[22:13] <BluesKaj> right click on it and add to panel
[22:13] <BluesKaj> or desktop
[22:14] <ubuntu>  i am on a live cd. but what to burn an iso image . (i have one cd burner) how do i burn it by k3b? (the cd cannot be ejected as iam on live cd?
[22:14] <julio-PE> BluesKaj: tnks, but this is not the problem... why kate is at wrong place? what happened to it?
[22:14] <Matisse> I thought I solved my flash-kills-firefox-problem, but now FF is crashing again when opening a video page (f.e. a youtube vid). It happens since upgrade to 10.04 and was solved by deactivating one of the 2 flash plugins in the addons menu
[22:15] <bawww> bdizzle__: gparted should list disks like /dev/hda or /dev/sda
[22:15] <BluesKaj> julio-PE, dunno why , if it works why worry , an update might fix it soon
[22:16] <julio-PE> BluesKaj: this problem cames with me on Kubuntu 9.10, and now Kubuntu 10.04 LTS
[22:17] <bdizzle__> gah, I am so over my head right now
[22:18] <BluesKaj> bdizzle__, at a tty ?
[22:19] <bdizzle__> hmm?
[22:19] <bdizzle__> refresh memory on what tty is?
[22:20] <bdizzle__> I just now got fdisk -l to show me all of the drives, finally
[22:20] <julio-PE> someone knows what happens?
[22:20] <bdizzle__> and its a really unreliable connection
[22:23] <bdizzle__> hold on
[22:27] <bdizzle__> okay, I manged to get wireless up on that system
[22:27] <BluesKaj> bdizzle__, how are you chatting with us ?
[22:28] <BluesKaj> on a diff pc , obviously
[22:28] <bdizzle__> on my laptop
[22:28] <bdizzle__> desktop is giving problems
[22:30] <bdizzle__> anyone want to try to help me tackle this one?
[22:31] <BluesKaj> bdizzle__, ok, alt+ctrl+f2 , will put your desktop to a tty
[22:31] <bdizzle__> ok
[22:32] <BluesKaj> tty is the same as the terminal without the desktop
[22:32] <bdizzle__> gotcha
[22:32] <bdizzle__> okay
[22:32] <bdizzle__> so I did sudo fdisk -l
[22:32] <bdizzle__> to see if it picked up things
[22:32] <bdizzle__> it picked up the three NTFS / FAT32 partitions, but is ignoring the linux ones
[22:33] <bdizzle__> so I have /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, and /dev/sda3   and it claims that disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[22:33] <bdizzle__> now I did it again
[22:34] <bdizzle__> and it shows both sda1,2, and 5, along with sdb1, sdb2, sdb3, sdb5, sdb6 and sdb7, claiming the partition table entries are not in disk order
[22:36] <BluesKaj> bdizzle__, ok you have an unallocated partition which is probly the linux ext , use your laptop to download gparted live cd and burn it . the nuse the live cd to make the partition an ext if gparted doesn't label it.
[22:36] <BluesKaj> ext4, that is
[22:37] <bdizzle__> yeah, sdb4 is missing, looks like it would start around 13400 and end around 26666
[22:38] <bawww> bdizzle__: what filesystem does your problematic disk use?
[22:38] <bawww> NTFS, ext4?
[22:38] <bdizzle__> okay, the breakdown is as follows
[22:38] <BluesKaj> ntfs is windows , ext is linux
[22:39] <bdizzle__> sdb1 -> HPFS / NTFS,   /dev/sdb2 -> W95 Ext'd (LBA)     sdb3 -> Linux Swap    sdb5 -> HPFS / NTFS    sdb6 -> Linux (ext3)   and sdb7 -> Linux (ext3)
[22:41] <bdizzle__> okay, due to an extremely shitty internet connection (university seems to believe that a purely wireless system is best, thus there are no wired connections, and the wireless comes and goes on us, it will take about an hour for it to download
[22:43] <bawww> bdizzle__: do this first, use the ddrescue method in the article to back up all the partitions into images
[22:44] <bdizzle__> okay...
[22:44] <bawww> then you have two options, is to extract the files from the image
[22:44] <bdizzle__> GNU ddrescue?
[22:44] <bawww> or go ahead and try to repair your hard drive
[22:45] <bdizzle__> okay, how do I install that if I am booting off the liveCD?
[22:47] <bawww> bdizzle__: try sudo aptitude install gddrescue
[22:47] <bdizzle__> tried
[22:47] <bdizzle__> couldn't find package
[22:47] <BluesKaj> rescue what ?
[22:48] <bdizzle__> does it stand for god damn drive rescue or something?
[22:48] <bawww> BluesKaj: GNUddrescue
[22:49] <bawww> it's  maintained more than ddrescue, since ddrescue is out dated or something
[22:49] <BluesKaj> bawww, he doesn't need to rescue just get X and his graphics to work
[22:49] <bawww> bdizzle__: you're trying to rescue data, is that right?
[22:49] <bdizzle__> no
[22:49] <bdizzle__> trying to get my computer to boot
[22:50] <bdizzle__> it won't boot off the hard drives, kept giving me Error 15 / 17 / 25 combinations
[22:50] <BluesKaj> bdizzle__, at the tty ,try sudo service kdm start
[22:50] <bdizzle__> I can get it to boot off the liveCD
[22:50] <bdizzle__> says kdm is already running
[22:51] <BluesKaj> ok, type startx
[22:51] <bawww> bdizzle__: are you on the current system that's having the issue?
[22:51] <bdizzle__> I'm typing on my laptop
[22:51] <bdizzle__> but I'm sitting in front of my desktop, which is having the issues
[22:51] <bdizzle__> so I do have at least one working computer
[22:52] <bawww> bdizzle__: did you try reinstalling grub?
[22:53] <bdizzle__> tried, yes, succeeded, no
[22:53] <bdizzle__> it kept claiming the partition table didn't exit
[22:53] <bdizzle__> *exist
[22:53] <bdizzle__> and I don't know how to read memory blocks to figure out where it might be, assuming it didn't get deleted somehow
[22:54] <BluesKaj> bdizzle__, sudo update-grub
[22:54] <bawww> bdizzle__: so you're getting a "Error 15: File not found" type of message?
[22:54] <bdizzle__> let me boot it normally without the disk and I can type what it shows
[22:54] <BluesKaj> ahhh... too many cooks ...bbl
[22:55] <bdizzle__> sorry..
[22:55] <bdizzle__> okay, rebooting normally
[22:55] <bdizzle__> it takes a while to recognize the slave drive, the master it picks up fine
[22:55] <BluesKaj> bdizzle__, good luck
[22:58] <bdizzle__> okay, its hung on trying to detect the slave drive
[22:58] <bdizzle__> now physically unplugging the IDE cable to the slave drive
[22:58] <bdizzle__> it boots, get to loading grub, gives me error 21
[22:59] <bawww> bdizzle__: did you make any changes in your bios prior to the problem?
[22:59] <bdizzle__> other than to switch the boot order so that I could get it to boot from USB, no
[23:03] <bawww> bdizzle__: what version of kubuntu is this on?
[23:03] <bawww> lucid?
[23:04] <bdizzle__> it was 9.04
[23:06] <bawww> bdizzle__: it seems like your grub settings which is located in /boot/grub/menu.lst is pointing to a different hard drive or partition
[23:06] <bdizzle__> that is possible, I was doing it rather ad-hoc to get it to work
[23:07] <bawww> bdizzle__: boot up on the desktop with a 9.04 liveCD
[23:08] <bdizzle__> okay
[23:08] <bawww> mount the linux parition and check what the settings say in the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:09] <bdizzle__> hold on
[23:10] <bawww> and match it with your current fdisk output
[23:10] <bdizzle__> yeah, not sure how to mount things outside of X
[23:13] <bdizzle__> still waiting for the LiveCD to load, hold on
[23:15] <bdizzle__> okay, LiveCD is up
[23:15] <bdizzle__> tried fdisk -l, claims its not seeing the linux drives right now
[23:16] <bdizzle__> says it doesn't contain a valid partition table
[23:16] <bawww> bdizzle__:  try it with sudo
[23:16] <bdizzle__> yeah
[23:16] <bdizzle__> okay, the windows drive is still there
[23:16] <bdizzle__> and one of the backup drives is there
[23:16] <bawww> some are missing?
[23:17] <bdizzle__> yes, the entire 320 GB drive (slave drive, 3 partitions, split evenly) is missing
[23:17] <bawww> did you get any SMART errors before booting to linux?
[23:17] <bdizzle__> SMART errors?
[23:17] <bdizzle__> I got a bunch of grub errors
[23:17] <bawww> what were you doing before you had the issue?
[23:18] <bawww> were partitioning the disk?
[23:18] <bdizzle__> don't remember, I've put this off for about eight or nine months now
[23:18] <bdizzle__> something about school and whatnot. This is the first time i've had a chance to work on it
[23:18] <bawww> SMART checks the health of your hard drives
[23:18] <bdizzle__> um, it had problems loading the Slave drive in BIOS
[23:18] <bawww> sometimes if the disk is messed up you can get all sort of disk errors
[23:19] <bdizzle__> where it read the master drive and gave its description
[23:19] <bdizzle__> then the slave drive was blank or so
[23:19] <bawww> were you going to install a newer version of kubuntu on it?
[23:20] <bdizzle__> yeah, I was trying to
[23:20] <bawww> you were going to upgrade to clean install?
[23:20] <bdizzle__> yes, but I need to figure out which of those partitions had the data on it, ie, which ones were the /home, which was just /
[23:20] <bdizzle__> I can easily enough
[23:20] <bawww> you want to backup the data is that it?
[23:21] <bdizzle__> yeah, but I need to figure out what drive works for me to back it up to
[23:21] <bdizzle__> if I have to, I can just leave the dead parts of the drive out
[23:21] <bdizzle__> but I need to know which partitions failed and where the data is
[23:21] <bdizzle__> mostly school documents, music and movies
[23:21] <bawww> ok, first thing run th SMART test in your bios make sure your disk is healthy and that's not an issue
[23:21] <bdizzle__> ok
[23:21] <bdizzle__> where is that hiding?
[23:22] <bawww> should be somewhere in BIOS
[23:22] <bawww> check under diagnostic utilities
[23:22] <bdizzle__> ok, hold on
[23:23] <bdizzle__> PC health status?
[23:23] <bawww> it could be there
[23:23] <bawww> or under hard disk options
[23:23] <bdizzle__> ok
[23:24] <bdizzle__> HDD Smart capability - disabled for both
[23:24] <bawww> enable it
[23:24] <bdizzle__> and I didn't see anything in bios to enable it
[23:25] <bawww> so you have two disks right?
[23:25] <bdizzle__> yes
[23:25] <bdizzle__> windows on an 80 GB that is working, but I can't get into it because of grub
[23:25] <bawww> why don't you partition the good disk, install kubuntu on it and then try to recover the bad disk
[23:25] <bdizzle__> and then linux on a 320 that isn't working
[23:26] <bdizzle__> .... because I wasn't thinking
[23:26] <bawww> you can restore your MBR to get into the Windows disk
[23:26] <bawww> if that's where all your personal files are
[23:26] <bdizzle__> yeah, I've done that before, I am hoping someone knows of a less painful way than downloading freeDOS
[23:27] <bawww> do you have a Windows XP cd?
[23:27] <peppe___> join
[23:27] <bdizzle__> yes
[23:27] <bawww> you can use that
[23:27] <bawww> is it a windows xp os though?
[23:27] <bawww> or vista?
[23:28] <bdizzle__> xp
[23:29] <bawww> ok so just drop to the recovery console and type in "fixmbr"
[23:30] <bdizzle__> okay, give me a sec
[23:30] <bdizzle__> I usually get these things set up quickly and its not an issue
[23:30] <bawww> bdizzle__: where are the personal files on the linux disk or windows disk?
[23:30] <bdizzle__> linux
[23:31] <bdizzle__> it had the bigger hard drive
[23:31] <bawww> did you keep the files in a different partition from / (root)?
[23:31] <bdizzle__> yes
[23:31] <bawww> was the /home on different partition?
[23:31] <bdizzle__> yes
[23:31] <HOPPER> hy to everyone
[23:32] <peppe___> ciao
[23:32] <HOPPER> ciao
[23:32] <bawww> but those partitions aren't visible on fdisk?
[23:32] <bdizzle__> sometimes they were, sometimes they weren't
[23:32] <bdizzle__> and I can't get it to boot to the windows CD for some reason
[23:33] <bawww> hm...
[23:33] <bawww> might because you changed the boot order to get the usb boot working?
[23:33] <bdizzle__> let me make sure I had the right one
[23:33] <bdizzle__> yeah
[23:33] <bdizzle__> sorry, brain is tired from this
[23:33] <bdizzle__> okay, booting from windows XP CD
[23:34] <HOPPER> how to connect to internet via pcmci 3g modem by bash shell?
[23:34] <HOPPER> how to connect to internet via pcmci 3g modem by bash shell?
[23:35] <bdizzle__> okay, you said drop to recovery console?
[23:36] <bawww> yeah
[23:36] <bdizzle__> ok
[23:36] <bawww> it should be R
[23:36] <bdizzle__> yup
[23:36] <bdizzle__> its going now
[23:37] <pucko-> HOPPER, shouldn't it register as an usb device?
[23:39] <Guest12917> any sane way of getting wifi tethering to work with ubuntu?
[23:40] <shimmr7> Did anyone else get mass-banned from #wordpress?
[23:42] <bawww> bdizzle__: the priority is to check SMART, since your bios doesn't have the utility you can use Windows disk software to do it also. do it have you've restored the windows mbr
[23:43] <bdizzle__> yeah, I'm trying to watch the recovery to see where to enter in "fixmbr"
[23:43] <bawww> bdizzle__: if the health of the disk checks out OK then you have an option to do a clean install and keep /home, but when you do a clean install choose a different user name from your 9.04 installation. that way you can install the new version of kubuntu without altering your old /home and recover your personal files from the old /home
[23:43] <bawww> it should give you a command line
[23:43] <bdizzle__> that would be the hope
[23:43] <bawww> to choose the windows installation
[23:43] <bdizzle__> oh, that is where we enter it
[23:43] <bdizzle__> okay
[23:43] <bawww> it should be 1 by default
[23:44] <Ossido> Hello. May I ask a couple of questions?
[23:44] <bawww> then lets you enter dos commands at C:\Windows
[23:44] <bdizzle__> yeah, it woudln't let me
[23:45] <scott59> off subject but just wanted to know if anyone has information about a company Netrome in Englewood, NJ 07631
[23:45] <bdizzle__> it just let me load the existing windows, which put me back at grub
[23:45] <bawww> bdizzle__: make the windows hard drive the primary in bios boot
[23:46] <bdizzle__> hell, I just unplugged the slave drive with all the linux stuff on it
[23:46] <scott59> someone was using the campany for security and seems that they went out of business so told him I would check if a new company purchased them
[23:46] <bawww> ok
[23:47] <scott59> thought someone from the NJ area might be online tonight
[23:47] <bdizzle__> okay, re-entering the recovery setup
[23:48] <bawww> let me look up a tutorial for you
[23:48] <bawww> bdizzle__: http://helpdeskgeek.com/how-to/fix-mbr-xp-vista/ you're going to follow the Windows XP one.
[23:48] <bdizzle__> it won't let me in, says I need the administrator password (wtf, its my system)
[23:49] <bawww> use blank
[23:49] <bdizzle__> oh...
[23:49] <bawww> usually it's blank if you haven't entered anything
[23:49] <bawww> press enter
[23:49] <bdizzle__> alright, let's restart and do it again since I tried three different ones that I could have thought of
[23:50] <bawww> bdizzle__: i'll pm you the steps so that way you can do it if i have to go anytime soon
[23:50] <bdizzle__> ok
[23:50] <bdizzle__> thanks
[23:50] <bdizzle__> this is such a damn pain
[23:50] <bdizzle__> and its been a while since I've done this
[23:52] <obert> mm when i do kate /foo it'll opens kate,but if i try to close kate via click X,it'll get freezed.
[23:52] <obert> should i close it via shell?
[23:55] <obert> then last question :) is there a way to export all the stuff done in yakuake into a log file/text file,please?
[23:56] <amara> hi, can anyone help me with this font rendering problem? i get the following problem if my terminal uses red, green or blue colours exclusively: http://imgur.com/uUoCk.png
[23:58] <obert> arf arf