| funkyHat | Is rtkit to be default in Maverick? It's showing up as recommends for pulseaudio now | 00:42 |
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| funkyHat | It's possible it was before and I missed ti | 00:42 |
| funkyHat | s/ti/it/ | 00:42 |
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| kklimonda | funkyHat: it's recommended in lucid too so you have probably just missed it | 01:29 |
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| z3r0-c001 | does anyone know the adobe url that i have to use to adjust cam and mic settings | 03:51 |
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| z3r0-c001 | #ubuntu | 03:52 |
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| BUGabundo | morning | 12:24 |
| BUGabundo | so, I got this e-sata disk that keeps asking for GKSUDO whenever I plug it | 12:24 |
| BUGabundo | I'll add "/dev/sdb1/media/wdtvdisk ext2 " to fstab | 12:25 |
| BUGabundo | but I'm missing something | 12:25 |
| BUGabundo | should I do "auto" too, like cdrom? | 12:25 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: /dev/sdb2 /media/wdtvdisk ext2 defaults 0 0 should work | 12:26 |
| penguin42 | (the 0 0 means no fsck) | 12:26 |
| penguin42 | are you sure you mean 2 ? | 12:26 |
| * penguin42 hasn't seen a definition of what stuff requires perms and what isn't - usb sticks seem to be automounted; esata will be a bit different because it probably can't tell it's any different from an onboard | 12:29 | |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: yeah... it's a movie disk on WDTV | 12:30 |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: usb pendrives in vfat, ntfs, or ext4 have no prob | 12:30 |
| BUGabundo | but any vfat or extfs disk I plug via e-sata will not automount | 12:31 |
| BUGabundo | and when I do mount it, it asks for ROOT | 12:31 |
| BUGabundo | even if then the device is mounted for my user | 12:31 |
| BUGabundo | as been like this since alpha2 or beta (aka alpha3) lucid | 12:31 |
| BUGabundo | I did file a bug back then, but I never moved | 12:31 |
| penguin42 | I think it's probably actually the right behaviour - the system has no way of knowing it isn't just an inbuilt disk and it wouldn't let normal users screw with those | 12:36 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: If instead of defaults you put something like user I think it might let you do it as you | 12:37 |
| Ian_Corne | penguin42: but by contrast, I'm allowed to mount my other sata disks, without password | 12:38 |
| penguin42 | you are? OK I give up - I don't understand what the rules are at all | 12:38 |
| penguin42 | (which is frankly a bit worrying from a security point of view) | 12:38 |
| Ian_Corne | BUGabundo: are you in plugdev? | 12:39 |
| Ian_Corne | the group | 12:39 |
| BUGabundo | Ian_Corne: should I ? | 12:39 |
| Ian_Corne | Yes | 12:39 |
| Ian_Corne | to mount such drives I think | 12:39 |
| BUGabundo | last I heard Pitty said we should not be in any groups | 12:39 |
| BUGabundo | and udev would take care of everthing | 12:39 |
| BUGabundo | even to bring breakfast to bed | 12:39 |
| Ian_Corne | in the gui for user thingies, i've got "Access external storage devices automaticly" marked | 12:40 |
| BUGabundo | let me check | 12:40 |
| BUGabundo | bugabundo adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin netdev admin sambashare | 12:40 |
| Ian_Corne | icorne adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare | 12:41 |
| BUGabundo | I'm in plugdev | 12:41 |
| BUGabundo | so that's not it | 12:41 |
| Ian_Corne | hmm | 12:41 |
| Ian_Corne | I have no idea | 12:41 |
| Ian_Corne | I don't haven an E-sata disk tho to try it with | 12:41 |
| Ian_Corne | because the system COULD make a difference between hotplugged drives and pre-plugged ones | 12:42 |
| Ian_Corne | it can see if it's an e-sata disk | 12:42 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: Try /dev/sdb1 /wherever ext2 user,noauto,relatime 0 0 | 12:42 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: That should let a user mount it but not auto mount it at boot | 12:42 |
| Ian_Corne | but that's nasty | 12:43 |
| penguin42 | Ian_Corne: I don't disagree | 12:43 |
| Ian_Corne | ok :) | 12:43 |
| Ian_Corne | do uuid's ever change? | 12:43 |
| * penguin42 finds it surprising there doesn't seem to be any settings dialog on a per-partition basis so I can set things like what to do when a usb drive is hot plugged | 12:44 | |
| penguin42 | Ian_Corne: They shouldn't | 12:44 |
| penguin42 | hmm breakfast time | 12:45 |
| BUGabundo | enjoy | 12:46 |
| * BUGabundo light bulbs | 12:55 | |
| BUGabundo | I wonder if my e-sata _bug_ is from me umounting it *everytime* before unplug | 12:55 |
| Ian_Corne | you should always unmount, no? | 13:01 |
| BUGabundo | I usually do | 13:03 |
| BUGabundo | but I remember that could be the cause | 13:03 |
| BUGabundo | I do $ sync | 13:03 |
| BUGabundo | so I'm usually safe from bad flashes | 13:03 |
| penguin42 | sync isn't enough to guarentee it | 13:13 |
| BUGabundo | ok | 13:15 |
| BUGabundo | then ill keep on doing unmout | 13:15 |
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| yofel | Ian_Corne: UUIDs are set when you format a partition, so they should never change uness you reformat it | 13:26 |
| Ian_Corne | then he should probably use the uuid to mount that disk to that spot, I guess | 13:27 |
| Ian_Corne | altho any new disks won't be able to user mount | 13:28 |
| penguin42 | yeh, and with modern kernels you have to be a little careful because the order of sd* isn't necessarily consistent from one boot to the next | 13:29 |
| z3r0-c001 | other than interface whatis the diffrence between remix and desktop | 13:31 |
| BluesKaj | hey folks | 14:07 |
| Ian_Corne | Hello | 14:08 |
| BUGabundo_lunch | hey BluesKaj... you are up early | 14:11 |
| BluesKaj | nope, just here early , BUGabundo_lunch :) | 14:16 |
| === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo_DrWho | ||
| BUGabundo_DrWho | or that | 14:16 |
| BluesKaj | BUGabundo_DrWho, what's the point of this chat ...isn't it a bit too soon to put it back up ? | 14:36 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | of course not | 14:38 |
| BluesKaj | heh | 14:38 |
| BluesKaj | we can use it as another offtopic room | 14:39 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | naaa | 14:40 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | our OPs don't like that much | 14:40 |
| yofel | hey, we *could* discuss our uds topics | 14:40 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | plus I'm running maverick | 14:41 |
| yofel | but I would rather have it stop raining here -.- | 14:41 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | so I'll be here ranting about the UI changes | 14:41 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | and broken stuff for the next 6 months | 14:41 |
| yofel | heh | 14:41 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | yofel: +1 | 14:41 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | maco: can you invite "Yutaka" to #ubuntu-woman? thanks | 14:45 |
| BluesKaj | so you devs are alreadyon the maverick wagon/ | 14:46 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | I'm no dev! | 14:46 |
| * yofel is honored to be counted as a dev even though he isn't ^^ | 14:47 | |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | I'm the least dev of you all | 14:47 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | I don't even have a ppa :) | 14:47 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | unlike the abusive yofel :) | 14:47 |
| yofel | :P | 14:47 |
| Timo_ | Hey do you blokes know why it is that canonical keeps changing the layout of Ubuntu each release? | 14:47 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | heeh | 14:48 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | to make it less | 14:48 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | what ever that is | 14:48 |
| BluesKaj | so where's maverick available then? | 14:48 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | repos | 14:48 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | serveral mirrors, actually | 14:48 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | no UM -d yet | 14:48 |
| Timo_ | I'm using the great Linux Mint now, which stays on a same layout and it works pretty well, I'm comfortable with it and a new release just handed me out the newest software with some other improvements | 14:48 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | good for you | 14:49 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | Freedom :) | 14:49 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | .... its overated... or not | 14:49 |
| Timo_ | Yes, well I was running 9.10 for quite a long time and I loved it. 10.04, have been on it for about an hour and hated it already :P | 14:49 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | lol | 14:50 |
| BluesKaj | interesting Timo_ , my experience is exactly opposite of yours , karmic wasn't my cuppa tea at all | 14:51 |
| Timo_ | That's funny :> | 14:51 |
| Timo_ | Well I actually liked all releases except fro 10.04 | 14:52 |
| Timo_ | well the new theme, it's experimenting, and that should be supported, that's true :D | 14:52 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | well I liked 9.10 | 14:54 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | lucid hasn't all that smooth | 14:54 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | let see how will maverick does | 14:54 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | and they need to get shorter names | 14:54 |
| Ian_Corne | Hmm, i've noticed less people with problems compared to 9.10 after release tho | 14:54 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | they are getting bigger and bigger .... too much to type | 14:54 |
| Ian_Corne | except the eee people | 14:54 |
| yofel | I liked ubuntu until they invented notify-osd, and it's a mess since 9.10 (upstart, and now plymouth, ...) | 14:54 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | yofel: again, +1 | 14:55 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | so you mean 9.04 alpha 4 ? :D /rant | 14:55 |
| Trewas | 10.04 has one very obvious bug to everyone, I was surprised the window controls were broken even when not using the previous default theme in 9.10... otherwise it has been quite ok | 14:55 |
| yofel | BUGabundo_DrWho: no, I won't continue the rants from back then, I do remeber them as if it was yesterday though :P | 14:56 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | ahaaha | 14:56 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | I still get bug mail from UM changes :( | 14:56 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | and the the new change to remove tooltips | 14:56 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | even got a reply from Mark | 14:56 |
| yofel | I unsubscribed from the UM bug, still subscribed on the tooltips rant though | 14:57 |
| JoshuaL | i miss the tooltips | 14:59 |
| JoshuaL | they where giving some good information, like what song was playing in rhythmbox etc. | 14:59 |
| yofel | I agree with his argument that people are abusing them, but I did like the battery information | 15:00 |
| JoshuaL | + that | 15:00 |
| JoshuaL | furthermore im happy with ubuntu, cant live without it ;-) | 15:01 |
| yofel | oh, Psi has a great tooltip here... hover on the systray icon and a tooltip opens saying... 'Psi' | 15:02 |
| yofel | very useful | 15:02 |
| Ian_Corne | the weather tooltip is handy tho | 15:02 |
| JoshuaL | nm-applet still gives an tooltip | 15:03 |
| JoshuaL | Is there a list of features to be expected in maverick? | 15:09 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | not yet | 15:11 |
| BUGabundo_DrWho | only after UDS | 15:11 |
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| === BUGabundo_SGU is now known as BUGabundo_TrueBl | ||
| BluesKaj | BUGabundo_TrueBl, got a mirror for maverick , maybe I'll try it on my desktop pc. | 16:10 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | main ? | 16:10 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | I have two in portugal | 16:10 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | I guess one of your local mirrors has it too | 16:10 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | just check it out | 16:10 |
| BluesKaj | i got the main | 16:11 |
| mxe5 | I just downloaded the latest Lucid i86 ver. ISO - Is this version any different than the one I downloaded right after the Final release was out ? ? | 16:32 |
| holstein | it shouldnt be | 16:32 |
| mxe5 | holstein; Thanks just wondering - Have a lappy I acquired going to install on. | 16:34 |
| holstein | i have a server install | 16:34 |
| holstein | i updated before the final | 16:34 |
| holstein | a few days | 16:34 |
| holstein | and theres no security updates since then | 16:34 |
| holstein | i think if something really funky got in | 16:35 |
| holstein | they would roll a new one | 16:35 |
| mxe5 | holstein; Why did you go with the server install - Sharing files, etc. ? | 16:35 |
| BluesKaj | holstein, there have been a few updates since , mostly language | 16:35 |
| holstein | mxe5: i got an icecast server | 16:36 |
| holstein | running on a laptop | 16:36 |
| holstein | thats all it does really | 16:37 |
| holstein | right now at least | 16:37 |
| holstein | BluesKaj: yeah, if i see a security update, i'll do it | 16:38 |
| holstein | otherwise, if it aint broke... | 16:38 |
| mxe5 | holstein: Are you streaming radio or something? | 16:38 |
| holstein | im a musician | 16:39 |
| holstein | and i stream gigs sometimes | 16:39 |
| mxe5 | cool | 16:39 |
| holstein | and i can stream my piano | 16:39 |
| holstein | for teaching purposes | 16:40 |
| mxe5 | sweet | 16:40 |
| holstein | icecast works great | 16:40 |
| holstein | im in a channel #opensourcemusicians | 16:41 |
| holstein | and we stream content for each other | 16:41 |
| holstein | live gigs | 16:41 |
| holstein | podcasts | 16:41 |
| mxe5 | I think only reason I reason I would use Server ed. is to setup something for sharing files across my network. | 16:41 |
| holstein | everyone contributes with what they do | 16:42 |
| holstein | mxe5: have you looked at http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ | 16:42 |
| holstein | i built a webserver | 16:43 |
| holstein | on a hardy PPC install | 16:43 |
| mxe5 | yup - Personally I think some of the help I've gotten in these IRC channels is leagues ahead of Msoft support or Dell or whatever...... | 16:43 |
| holstein | to learn | 16:43 |
| holstein | and since then, i just grab these | 16:43 |
| holstein | mxe5: i moved my audio studio over to linux | 16:44 |
| holstein | and i would not have been able to get it up and running without the help i have found here | 16:44 |
| holstein | and ive made some great friends | 16:44 |
| mxe5 | yup - that turnkey - is it virtyual box or what exactly | 16:45 |
| holstein | iso's | 16:45 |
| mxe5 | ah | 16:45 |
| holstein | too easy | 16:45 |
| holstein | web based admin | 16:46 |
| holstein | all kinds of different set-ups | 16:46 |
| holstein | ive tried the drupal, joomla, and wordpress ones | 16:47 |
| holstein | and i suggested the file-sharing one | 16:47 |
| mxe5 | will definitely check out later - have it bookmarked\ | 16:47 |
| holstein | and heard good things | 16:47 |
| holstein | ive used them in virtual box too | 16:47 |
| holstein | for testing | 16:47 |
| holstein | if you can get Vbox to route the network properly, your good to go | 16:48 |
| mxe5 | how long is this lucid irc channel going to go | 16:49 |
| mxe5 | yea virtualbox is pretty nice for testing - getting usb to be seen doesn't always work good | 16:50 |
| Ian_Corne | mxe5: this isn't a lucid channel anymore | 16:51 |
| Ian_Corne | this is a maverick channel now | 16:51 |
| mxe5 | I | 16:52 |
| mxe5 | Ah - I still had ubuntu+1 still listed in my channels and thought that was what this was. | 16:53 |
| holstein | it was | 16:53 |
| holstein | but now +1 is maverick | 16:53 |
| guntbert | mxe5: it is #ubuntu+1 | 16:53 |
| holstein | 10.10 | 16:53 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | eheh | 16:53 |
| mxe5 | okie dokie | 16:53 |
| mxe5 | so i was under the impression the ubuntu+1 channel was for specific questions, etc pertaining to lucid release | 16:55 |
| holstein | nah | 16:55 |
| mxe5 | oh ok | 16:55 |
| holstein | its for questions pertaining to the next release | 16:55 |
| holstein | whatever release is being developed and tested | 16:56 |
| Volkodav | what kernel will they start with ? | 16:56 |
| mxe5 | ah - that would be maverick - is that part of the name | 16:56 |
| holstein | hmmm | 16:56 |
| holstein | Volkodav: i forget where that is | 16:56 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | Linux BluBUG 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:09:38 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 16:57 |
| holstein | theres a page about the goals somewhere | 16:57 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | Volkodav: ^^^^^ | 16:57 |
| holstein | ah BUGabundo_TrueBl :) | 16:57 |
| Volkodav | volkodav@Lynx-64:~$ uname -a | 16:57 |
| Volkodav | Linux Lynx-64 2.6.34-020634rc5-generic #020634rc5 SMP Tue Apr 20 09:07:31 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 16:57 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | daily kernels are not supported oficially | 16:59 |
| Volkodav | works fine for me - I need 33 and up for TRIM support | 17:00 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | I guess | 17:02 |
| mxe5 | holstein: I saw the Zen virtual at the bottom of the Turnkey site you posted - have you used that yet - looks pretty good? | 17:03 |
| holstein | i havent tried that one | 17:03 |
| holstein | i bet its great | 17:04 |
| JoshuaL | i wonder if +1 will get better SSD support | 17:04 |
| holstein | JoshuaL: do you do any flags in fstab? | 17:05 |
| Volkodav | JoshuaL: I expect btrfs to be an option for install | 17:05 |
| Volkodav | it has SSD mode | 17:05 |
| JoshuaL | i dont have a ssd yet, but did some research since i am considering to buy a ssd. i dont wont to change stuff manually in order to get the best out of it :) | 17:06 |
| Volkodav | I have one and there is not much to change | 17:06 |
| mxe5 | holstein: I see the server edition is 64bit - is that the only version - my lappy is older i86 model? | 17:06 |
| holstein | hmmm | 17:06 |
| Volkodav | I changed the fstab to enable TRIM "discard" and swapiness | 17:07 |
| Volkodav | that's pretty much it | 17:07 |
| holstein | mxe5: your looking for a lucid server x86 iso? | 17:07 |
| Volkodav | and put the logs in ram to tmpfs | 17:07 |
| mxe5 | holstein: Is that version you installed on your laptop? Yes x86 version would work fine. | 17:08 |
| holstein | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/ | 17:08 |
| holstein | i think that should do you right | 17:08 |
| holstein | the top one | 17:09 |
| mxe5 | holstein: Ah ok Thanks - You got me thinking about using this version - I might test it out as a sharing place for music etc. | 17:09 |
| holstein | i run ssh on it | 17:10 |
| mxe5 | yup | 17:10 |
| holstein | works great | 17:11 |
| mxe5 | Think I will go with the i386 version this l; | 17:11 |
| mxe5 | * this lappy has intel chipset | 17:11 |
| holstein | im running it on a P3 | 17:12 |
| holstein | 900 or so | 17:12 |
| mxe5 | that's cool - still using a good ol P-III that's great! | 17:13 |
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| mxe5 | I remember when I first used my i486 It was a hotrod compared to the very 1st Pentium setups. | 17:14 |
| mxe5 | I'm dating myself - but I remember when I paid over $200 for 4mb's ram he heh | 17:15 |
| holstein | ;) | 17:15 |
| mxe5 | gotta run - thanks for tip on turnkey - will check it out | 17:15 |
| holstein | later | 17:16 |
| mxe5 | late | 17:16 |
| BluesKaj | BUGabundo_TrueBl, installed maverick on the desktop pc ...seems ok so far | 17:24 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | cool | 17:24 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | wb | 17:24 |
| BluesKaj | gonna stick with lucid on the laptop tho...for stability | 17:25 |
| BluesKaj | the desktop is my labrat pc :) | 17:27 |
| Ian_Corne | For me it's the other way round :) | 17:27 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | I only have this laptop for me | 17:27 |
| yofel | for me too, my desktop has the backups ^^ | 17:27 |
| BluesKaj | getting a bit old ...single amd venice cpu and crappy ati onboard graphics and audio | 17:28 |
| * JoshuaL has only a laptop | 17:28 | |
| JoshuaL | intel core i5 in it, so im good for the next few years :P | 17:28 |
| BluesKaj | cool , i can still ssh into the desktop from he lappy, even after the upgrade | 17:29 |
| BluesKaj | now if I could just install lucid on wife's pc , all would be good :) | 17:30 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | ahah | 17:31 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | who's the boss at home? | 17:31 |
| BUGabundo_TrueBl | :) | 17:31 |
| BluesKaj | heh, I made the mistake of buying her a new pc with dual cores 2.8ghz amd cpu etc , but we're using it as our media server in the tv room . running spdif/digital out to the HK for audio and dvi-hdmi to the tv for the video portion | 17:33 |
| BluesKaj | works well as a second source for media | 17:34 |
| BluesKaj | the nvidia geforce 7600 gt could barely handle the immense data requirements of "Avatar" or so it seemed , a few buffer freezes now and then with that video | 17:37 |
| BluesKaj | the HD version I mean , the std dvd version was fine | 17:39 |
| mxe5 | holstein: Did you go with the Sever or Cloud version? | 18:05 |
| mxe5 | *Server | 18:05 |
| holstein | i just did plain old server mxe5 | 18:07 |
| mxe5 | ok - thx - got it downloaded & burned - doing a check of disk now | 18:09 |
| sebsebseb | Hi | 18:46 |
| === BUGabundo_TrueBl is now known as BUGabundo_S32A | ||
| === BUGabundo_S32A is now known as PsychoI3oy_g1 | ||
| === PsychoI3oy_g1 is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| aboSamoor | Hi, can anyone help to understand why fsck is called every time I boot ubuntu ? | 20:43 |
| SwedeMike | aboSamoor: are you sure you want to ask that in #ubuntu+1 and not in #ubuntu ? | 20:46 |
| aboSamoor | SwedeMike: #ubuntu is so crowded and usually you do not get help for advanced problems | 20:47 |
| SwedeMike | good luck then. | 20:47 |
| BlackOtaku | Hey yall. I'm upgrading a fresh Lucid install to Maverick; updating the update-notifier package in Synaptic requires the removal of the ubuntu-desktop package. Is this safe to remove? | 20:48 |
| BlackOtaku | It's my assumption that since ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that depends on most of the things found in a default install, it wouldn't be safe to remove... am I correct in this assumption? | 20:53 |
| yofel | well, if you *just* remove ubuntu-desktop nothing will be broken, but that it even wants to remove ubuntu-desktop is an indication that you might not want to apply the update at this point | 20:54 |
| arand | BlackOtaku: It is safe to remove, however it convenient for organisatory purposes | 20:54 |
| BlackOtaku | Alright, then I think I'll go ahead and update it then... wish me luck | 20:55 |
| arand | For example, if you choose to get rid of evlolution from a default install, then ubuntu-desktop would have to go as well... | 20:55 |
| BlackOtaku | Ahh ok I see. | 20:55 |
| arand | BlackOtaku: If an update wants to remove it, the update is likely bd | 20:56 |
| arand | *bad | 20:56 |
| BlackOtaku | You're probably right, it's telling me that it couldn't resolve a dependency... Alright, then I'll leave that alone. | 20:57 |
| arand | But if you actively want to remove something which comes in the default install, then often ubuntu-desktop has to go... | 20:57 |
| BlackOtaku | Alright, all of the updates have been installed and I'm rebooting my Maverick VM | 20:58 |
| BlackOtaku | It's booted up fine, thanks again :) | 20:59 |
| * arand needs to get onto maverick at some point... bluh. | 20:59 | |
| aboSamoor | SwedeMike, thanks for the wish, it seems nowadays so hard to get help for ubuntu any where, I am trying IRC and forums and no luck till now ! | 21:25 |
| acicula | if it does that the most likely culprit would be the shutdown sequenec failing to unmount the disk? | 21:40 |
| meowbuntu | hi what is the latest full final release of ubuntu | 21:58 |
| SwedeMike | 10.04 | 21:58 |
| SwedeMike | as advertised on www.ubuntu.com | 21:58 |
| meowbuntu | is that final now | 22:00 |
| meowbuntu | so atm this channel is not needed | 22:00 |
| yofel | it sure is, maverick development has started | 22:00 |
| yofel | but lucid is released, support in #ubuntu | 22:01 |
| meowbuntu | lucid any better than 9.10 | 22:01 |
| meowbuntu | 9.10 performed like crap on my old p4 atm am using ubuntu8.04 and no problems | 22:02 |
| meowbuntu | 8.04 is the most stable on older computers that is y i am not putting my hopes on lucid | 22:02 |
| SwedeMike | what was the problem with 9.10 ? | 22:04 |
| SwedeMike | I have 10.04 working on a thinkpad T40, seems just fine, and that's quite old. | 22:04 |
| meowbuntu | SwedeMike, well it had quite alot of problems sound would not work at all, cpu was peaking lots even with bare minimal apps running. was quite unstable, etc | 22:29 |
| meowbuntu | others had this problems to | 22:30 |
| meowbuntu | so i reverted back to the stable consistent 8.04 and now my computer i thought was stuffed is actually working again | 22:30 |
| === BUGabundo is now known as LeonardDi | ||
| yofel | LeonardDi: o.O? | 22:36 |
| LeonardDi | joking on another # | 22:37 |
| yofel | heh | 22:37 |
| LeonardDi | I keep forgetting this goes *everywhere* | 22:37 |
| LeonardDi | one of this days..... | 22:37 |
| === LeonardDi is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| Ian_Corne | meowbuntu: for support for lucid -> #ubuntu | 22:39 |
| meowbuntu | Ian_Corne, not using lucid as i have clearly said | 22:40 |
| Ian_Corne | are you using maverick? | 22:42 |
| Ian_Corne | did your comment have anything to do with the upcomming release of ubuntu? | 22:43 |
| Gumby | looking at the release schedule its pretty darn early in the release cycle to be testing huh | 22:44 |
| Ian_Corne | It is :) | 22:44 |
| Gumby | hehe, I wont put it on my daily laptop just yet then ;) | 22:44 |
| BluesKaj | so far so good here , on my old desktop | 22:44 |
| BluesKaj | but i won't put it on the laptop yet | 22:45 |
| Ian_Corne | Well, it's not at the point of really breaking things yet I think | 22:46 |
| Ian_Corne | altho I can't launch a terminal via the shortcut anymore :p | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | Gumby: are you trying to insult us, maverick users? | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | Ian_Corne: theres a shortcut?? | 22:48 |
| Gumby | BUGabundo: lol, hardly | 22:48 |
| BUGabundo | I always user gnome do | 22:48 |
| BUGabundo | and I have a gnome-terminal on startup apps :) | 22:48 |
| Ian_Corne | I use ctrl + alt + t | 22:48 |
| * arand thinks ctrl+alt+t is the horriblest kbd shortcut ever, still happy there's at least something per default. | 22:55 | |
| Ian_Corne | arand: why's that? | 22:56 |
| Ian_Corne | it's doable with one hand | 22:57 |
| Ian_Corne | and doesn't get pushed by accident | 22:57 |
| Ian_Corne | i got ctrl + alt + r for irssi :) | 22:57 |
| arand | ...barely, I find it immensely uncomfy. | 22:58 |
| Ian_Corne | :) | 22:59 |
| Ian_Corne | guess to each his own | 23:00 |
| blerk | someone here told me howto get the volume controls back to verical instead of the new horizontal default, but i forgot how :( | 23:29 |
| yofel | blerk: if you're using lucid then please ask in #ubuntu, this is maverick support now | 23:38 |
| blerk | :( | 23:39 |
| blerk | the traffic goes too quickly and nobody answered, but it seems the old volume control applet has been removed from both ubuntu and the repos | 23:40 |
| blerk | so too bad for me :D | 23:40 |
| yofel | well, most of the folks that were here a few weeks ago are gone now that lucid is out and at least I can't help you as I don't use gnome | 23:43 |
| blerk | no worries, thanks | 23:43 |
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