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* ccheney will be arriving in brussels at either 4:55pm or 6:40pm Sunday, not sure yet how delayed my flight will be | 00:24 | |
Laney | ccheney: approx the same :) | 00:39 |
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Laney | 1850 here | 00:39 |
ccheney | Laney: continental claims my flight will arrive in frankfurt at 2:51pm but flighttrack pro claims 3:31pm, so maybe i will make the 4:05pm connecting flight or else get on the next one two hours later :-\ | 00:59 |
JontheEchidna | 1445 on monday here :( | 00:59 |
ccheney | JontheEchidna: it should be clear by then hopefully | 01:00 |
JontheEchidna | hopefully | 01:01 |
Laney | :( | 01:01 |
Laney | looking forward to the next week though :) | 01:03 |
JontheEchidna | :) | 01:03 |
* ccheney hopes not to get stuck in Europe for the summer | 01:13 | |
* ccheney read somewhere that this volcano erupted for a year straight long ago, doing that now would cause some major flight problems | 01:13 | |
lee_ | doesn't very many people talk on her | 01:22 |
lee_ | here* | 01:22 |
imbrandon | lee_: its the weekend, and a day prior to UDS, so yea it will be quiet in here | 01:26 |
lee_ | UDS? | 01:30 |
lee_ | um, I've been here before and I gotta say it's not exactly the most talkative part of ubuntu | 01:30 |
ion | Your single-digit sample size convinced us. | 01:31 |
lee_ | ... | 01:33 |
lee_ | I hope you didn't just call me stupid | 01:33 |
lee_ | ... | 01:34 |
maco | crimsun just called and said his plane to uds /broke down/ | 01:34 |
virtuald | maco: like before it got off the ground? | 01:35 |
maco | like during take off | 01:35 |
virtuald | oh shit? | 01:35 |
lee_ | that's bad | 01:35 |
maco | it got a flat tire | 01:35 |
virtuald | o.o | 01:36 |
maco | took off anyway, got to the coast... then they were told they couldnt cross the atlantic with a flat tire and they had to fly back to dc | 01:36 |
ion | Wow | 01:36 |
maco | (yes im laughing right now at "his plane got a flat") | 01:36 |
ccheney | lmao | 01:36 |
lee_ | hahahahahaha | 01:37 |
virtuald | :> | 01:37 |
* ccheney hopes crimsun can make it on a later flight | 01:37 | |
maco | its nearly 2100 here | 01:37 |
lee_ | no it's not it's 2010 | 01:37 |
lee_ | you got the one and zero mixed up | 01:38 |
maco | er, its 838pm where i am | 01:38 |
maco | oh. year :P | 01:38 |
lee_ | 738 where I'm at | 01:38 |
maco | no no im talking about time :P | 01:38 |
ccheney | maco: my flight here doesn't leave until 9:40 i think but that isn't a usual flight time, so yea he may be stuck until tomorrow | 01:38 |
lee_ | 7:38pm | 01:38 |
ccheney | unless they land fix the flat and take back off | 01:38 |
ccheney | they should have a can of that stuff onboard ;-) | 01:39 |
lee_ | (I knew he was talking about time) | 01:39 |
ccheney | http://www.fixaflat.com/ | 01:39 |
maco | he? | 01:39 |
maco | ccheney: the tire blew | 01:39 |
maco | not just deflated | 01:39 |
ccheney | maco: ah ok | 01:39 |
maco | lee_: he who? | 01:40 |
lee_ | wow, what happen? it ran over a 1 foot nail? | 01:40 |
maco | dunno | 01:40 |
lee_ | (maco) | 01:40 |
maco | he me? me she. | 01:40 |
lee_ | ah, me sorry | 01:41 |
lee_ | me got confused | 01:41 |
maco | heh | 01:41 |
ion | shklee | 01:42 |
virtuald | ccheney: i read somewhere that some products like that have made tires explode because they used flammable gas | 01:42 |
lee_ | wow, what happen then someone droped a cigarrett on the tire that just "happen" to have a hole in ti | 01:43 |
lee_ | it* | 01:43 |
lee_ | I'd like to see the face on the pilot | 01:43 |
ccheney | virtuald: ah maybe thats what they did then, fixaflat then it blew up ;-) | 01:44 |
virtuald | :> | 01:44 |
ccheney | my flight seems to now be consistent getting to frankfurt at 2:51pm hopefully i can make it to BRU at 4:55 then | 01:44 |
ccheney | which means boarding should be RSN | 01:45 |
lee_ | k | 01:46 |
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maco | hah yeah they're going to sit there for an hour and replace the tires | 01:51 |
ccheney | lol | 01:51 |
ccheney | well thats better than having to rebook for tomorrow | 01:52 |
lee_ | o.o | 01:52 |
maco | crimsun estimates itll actually take 2 because you know how airline estimates work | 01:52 |
lee_ | I would love to see the jack that had to pick that thing up | 01:52 |
ccheney | brb, going to find a flight board to see when my flight is really leaving | 01:52 |
* ccheney back | 02:02 | |
ccheney | heh the desk claimed the 9:00 leave time was ambitious and likely wouldn't even start boarding until then | 02:03 |
ccheney | heh they bumped the time to 9:30 again | 02:04 |
ccheney | at least the plane is actually on the ground now so hopefully the time will stabilize | 02:04 |
ccheney | seems they like to update the estimate every few minutes, they seem to not really have any idea when it will leave | 02:13 |
anon^_^ | hi, I realize this question should probably be asked in #ubuntu, but it's of a more technical nature concerning the Ubuntu installer, and placement of grub on the MBR | 02:14 |
anon^_^ | in the final stages of the ubuntu installer, you're asked if you want to install grub to the MBR of the first device | 02:14 |
anon^_^ | What happens if the first device is not the install device? | 02:16 |
anon^_^ | I had an issue where Ubuntu recognized a hardware raid controller and built array as /dev/sda | 02:16 |
anon^_^ | and the OS install device as /dev/sdb | 02:17 |
anon^_^ | I'm trynig to find out if any damage was done to the raid array on /dev/sda (GPT) | 02:17 |
* ccheney see you guys at UDS, headed to my flight | 02:21 | |
crimsun | maco: yeah, actually they deplaned us using the people movers, so we're all sitting around waiting to see if they can book 350 people onto another flight; otherwise, about four of us won't be at UDS on Monday | 03:38 |
maco | crimsun: ick. i thought you said they were just changing the tire? (in which case i agree with whoever said theyd like to see the jack) | 03:39 |
crimsun | maco: the rear right of the four in the assembly on the right gear exploded and shredded two other tires | 03:39 |
maco | wow | 03:40 |
maco | how the heck did you land? | 03:40 |
crimsun | happily? | 03:40 |
akgraner | I was going to say less than smoothly | 03:40 |
maco | let me rephrase: how are you still alive? | 03:40 |
maco | i thought planes without landing gear acted like firesteel | 03:40 |
crimsun | well, a busted landing gear isn't going to knock out an entire plane, generally | 03:41 |
akgraner | crimsun, that's awful! | 03:41 |
maco | (or whatever you call those things you use to light a campfire ... or a torch) | 03:41 |
imbrandon | crimsun: ouch | 03:41 |
crimsun | eh, plenty of bugs to fix in the meantime. :) | 03:41 |
maco | (metal...rub hard...and it sparks? one of those) | 03:41 |
imbrandon | hum , how long from the time a package is published until the buildd "see" it ? | 03:42 |
maco | 3-5 minutes? | 03:42 |
maco | oh wait published | 03:43 |
maco | i was thinkig upload til it shows in the queue | 03:43 |
imbrandon | oh no, its built and published to the universe pocket, but my other package is dep-wait on it still | 03:43 |
imbrandon | hrm , actualy ... | 03:44 |
crimsun | akgraner: did you have an opportunity to test the workaround on the macbook air? | 03:44 |
imbrandon | doh, its in binary new, thats why :( | 03:44 |
akgraner | nope - my parents weren't comfortable doing the testing - they are out on the west coast on vacation and they are using the MacAir atm - they don't share my passion in working on it :-( | 03:46 |
imbrandon | anyone not in transit that can pop something outa bin-new for me ? | 03:46 |
crimsun | akgraner: are they comfortable booting from a live cd/usb? | 03:49 |
imbrandon | crimsun: macbook-air != optical media, and mac's cant boot from usb | 03:50 |
imbrandon | not to speak for them though | 03:50 |
akgraner | crimsun, no CD drive either | 03:51 |
maco | akgraner: howd you get linux on it to start with? | 03:52 |
imbrandon | maco: you can use pxe or usb cdrom | 03:52 |
akgraner | maco, I have an external drive | 03:52 |
maco | oh so usb works but not usb flash drive | 03:52 |
imbrandon | right | 03:53 |
akgraner | but my parents didn't take it with them on vacation | 03:53 |
maco | my laptops are like that. usb hard drive is fine, but no usb flash drive | 03:53 |
imbrandon | wont boot of flash or hdd form usb, only firewire | 03:53 |
maco | oh now thats just evil | 03:53 |
nigelbabu | thats unfriendly | 03:53 |
nigelbabu | evil sums it up though ;) | 03:53 |
imbrandon | hehe its how mac's have always been, the air is just the first without optical media | 03:53 |
imbrandon | built in | 03:54 |
maco | but firewire enclosures cost like double what usb ones do | 03:54 |
nigelbabu | they must have a deal with fireware folks or the patent on it :/ | 03:54 |
imbrandon | heh but at the time the spec for their firmware was introduced there was only usb 1.0, much slower than firewire | 03:54 |
imbrandon | nigelbabu: and yes iirc apple was a big part of the 1394 firewire spec | 03:55 |
nigelbabu | imbrandon: aha, makes sense overall | 03:56 |
imbrandon | funny thing is if you have a retail 10.{2,3,4} ( not 5 or 6 ) dvd to boot from you can trick it to then chainload the usb drive, but at that point you have optical media | 03:57 |
imbrandon | the only time that helps is if you have an older osx installed on a drive that was later put into a usb enclosure and you REALLY want to boot to it | 03:57 |
imbrandon | instead of just reading the data or putting it in a firewire enclosure | 03:58 |
Sarvatt | crimsun: wow, I was just saying earlier I wish I took the direct flight you were on too since i've been shuffled around 3 times now.. UA950? | 04:26 |
maco | crimsun: so does that mean you're coming home or are you staying at the airport? | 05:08 |
YokoZar | Welp, my plan to fly to Paris and train in instead didn't work either due to cancellation | 05:23 |
Sarvatt | :( | 05:55 |
Sarvatt | YokoZar: o'hare - paris got canceled? | 05:56 |
YokoZar | Sarvatt: Dallas->Paris got cancelled | 05:56 |
YokoZar | Sarvatt: how about you where are you at? | 05:56 |
Sarvatt | american airlines too? | 05:57 |
Sarvatt | i'm still booked for o'hare - brussels tomorrow | 05:57 |
Sarvatt | same flight that got canceled today | 05:57 |
Sarvatt | well yesterday now I guess :D | 05:58 |
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DW_Ya_DiqG | wanna c somethin fucced up lol dont send pics to ur bf if ur gonna do him dirty lol http://www.paybackNikki.in/?id=1053lbj6dbtpx2w0nwezzclymagipl | 07:29 |
MTecknology | http://www.vikarsrant.net/Jokes/NotSoDumbBlonde.htm | 07:43 |
MTecknology | sorry - link was for -ot | 07:43 |
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LucidFox | I wonder - I know that there is an intention to push the application indicators to GNOME, KDE and fd.o as a standard, but what about the messaging menu? | 10:36 |
ScottK | slangasek: Thanks (boost-defaults) | 11:20 |
* cjwatson attempts an autosync for maverick to see what happens | 11:48 | |
bigon | pitti: hi could you please copy my smart-notifier upload to maverick? | 12:07 |
imbrandon | cjwatson: good luck :) | 12:16 |
benh | hi folks ! | 12:54 |
benh | if I find that a package doesn't work due to what seems to be a gcc miscompile | 12:54 |
benh | should I file a bug against the package or gcc ? | 12:54 |
benh | ie, cdebootstrap doesn't work on lucid x86_64 (hangs), and I seem to have tracked it down to gcc incorrectly removing a call to a function marked attribute((noreturn)) | 12:55 |
benh | (internal_di_exec never actually calls internal_di_exec_child when returning from fork with pid=0, removing the attribute fixes it) | 12:55 |
cjwatson | benh: probably both ... | 12:57 |
cjwatson | (one bug, two tasks) | 12:57 |
cjwatson | benh: that said, why on earth are you using cdebootstrap? :-) | 12:57 |
benh | cjwatson: making up a small debian nfs root for an embedded box I'm hacking on :-) | 13:06 |
benh | cjwatson: ok, I'll file both then | 13:07 |
azeem | 14:06 < waldi> hmm | 13:07 |
cjwatson | benh: debootstrap should work perfectly fine | 13:12 |
benh | cjwatson: and yet it doesn't :-) | 13:13 |
benh | cjwatson: lucid x86_64 | 13:13 |
cjwatson | how does debootstrap break? | 13:14 |
benh | cjwatson: hangs as soon as it tries to fork/exec a child process (like wget) | 13:14 |
cjwatson | note: debootstrap != cdebootstrap | 13:14 |
benh | cjwatson: gets into an infinite poll() loop | 13:14 |
cjwatson | that sounds like the bug you described above in cdebootstrap. debootstrap is a different program. | 13:14 |
benh | yeas, sorry, it's cdebootstrap | 13:14 |
benh | yeah, used cdb bcs I'm used to ? :-) | 13:14 |
benh | anyways | 13:14 |
benh | the problem seems to be a gcc bug which is more of a concern than just cdb not working | 13:15 |
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cjwatson | oh I agree, just saying debootstrap is generally better maintained AFAIK and I normally encourage people to use it instead | 13:15 |
benh | I don't have time tonight to try to create a smaller repro-case, so I'm filing things as-is | 13:16 |
benh | and we'll see if I get a chance to look further | 13:16 |
benh | ah yes, possibly, as I said, I used cdb out of a (bad) habit | 13:16 |
benh | for some reason I tend to use db for same arch bootstraps and cdb for "foreign" archs | 13:17 |
LucidFox | When filing SRUs, if I'm not a member of the SRU team, am I supposed to upload the package to -proposed myself, or attach a debdiff and let the SRU team do the upload? | 13:17 |
cjwatson | upload yourself | 13:18 |
azeem | benh: db is just as good for foreign bootstraps as cdb these days AFAIK | 13:19 |
benh | azeem: quite possibly, I'll use it next time | 13:19 |
benh | :-) | 13:20 |
benh | but heh, at least that's one gcc bug found, always nice :-) | 13:20 |
benh | cjwatson: btw, OT, but should I use arm or armel nowadays ? | 13:23 |
benh | cjwatson: for --arch that is | 13:23 |
benh | cjwatson: or there's no difference anymore ? | 13:23 |
benh | cjwatson: it's just a little d-link NAS box I'm fixing the kernel (vendor one is shit and upstream doesn't quite deal with the latest HW rev so I'm fixing it) | 13:24 |
cjwatson | benh: I don't think the arm architecture exists any more in Debian | 13:31 |
Laney | yay for autosync | 15:20 |
cjwatson | pitti: the autosync flush is in the middle of 'p' | 16:51 |
roaksoax | Sarvatt: ping? | 16:56 |
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cjwatson | slangasek: is bug 576717 a winbind bug? I can't quite make out from the stacktrace who corrupted memory | 17:15 |
ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/576717) | 17:15 |
bdrung | imbrandon: you were to fast with syncing xmms2. | 18:44 |
bdrung | i wanted xmms2 for working on the syncpackage script ;) | 18:44 |
imbrandon | bdrung: lol sorry, i was bored last night so i did some syncs/merges | 19:29 |
bdrung | imbrandon: i was astonished why the package was newer than i thought. | 19:31 |
bdrung | it doesn't happen often that someone else does my work ;) | 19:31 |
mannyv | anyone know what package provides the partitioner on the install cd? | 20:05 |
Laney | bdrung: I have a sync if you want to test your script on it | 20:21 |
bdrung | Laney: yes | 20:21 |
Laney | bdrung: magic-haskell | 20:21 |
Laney | you should test build it first though | 20:22 |
imbrandon | bdrung: btw are you making the one in the u-d-t source use anon api ? | 20:22 |
bdrung | imbrandon: i'am tweaking syncpackage in the u-d-t package. anon api? | 20:23 |
imbrandon | bdrung: right now it requires lp-credentials, it shouldent | 20:23 |
imbrandon | imho | 20:23 |
bdrung | i am using getDebianSrcPkg, getUbuntuSrcPkg from ubuntutools.requestsync.lp | 20:23 |
bdrung | and this: | 20:24 |
bdrung | launchpad = get_launchpad("ubuntu-dev-tools") | 20:24 |
bdrung | options.release = launchpad.distributions["ubuntu"].current_series.name | 20:24 |
bdrung | imbrandon: we probably have to tweak it | 20:24 |
imbrandon | :) | 20:24 |
imbrandon | yea i fell back to the old one pitti made and ScottK patched for the moment | 20:24 |
imbrandon | e.g. the madison way | 20:25 |
Viper550 | artwork channel is dead right now it seems | 20:46 |
hyperair | there's an artwork channel? | 20:47 |
hyperair | i never knew | 20:47 |
Viper550 | yea, #ubuntu-artwork | 20:48 |
hyperair | =O | 20:48 |
hyperair | there's still quite a number of people in the channel. | 20:49 |
Viper550 | yeah, they're not saying much though | 20:49 |
imbrandon | its monthers day in the US and the day before UDS, gonna be quite everywhere | 20:50 |
JanC | it's mother's day over here too | 20:50 |
imbrandon | ahh | 20:51 |
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ccheney | slangasek: if the crash in impress is immediate i don't see it on my machine with compiz | 21:13 |
ccheney | slangasek: i may need a document to test with | 21:13 |
* ccheney headed to bed, need more sleep | 21:22 | |
cjwatson | OK, first autosync pass done | 21:25 |
cjwatson | merges.ubuntu.com should catch up in a bit - currently unpacking something in the middle of r | 21:25 |
cjwatson | (assuming it doesn't run out of disk, but looks like it should make it) | 21:26 |
imbrandon | awesom | 21:34 |
Viper550 | the Lubuntu project could use some help | 21:37 |
Aquina | what help? | 21:38 |
Viper550 | I made a proposal to have a GTK-based user manager coded for LXDE, one that doesn't have any dependencies on gnome libraries | 21:38 |
Viper550 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lxde/+spec/user-manager | 21:41 |
Aquina | ill chck that, Viper | 21:59 |
crypt-0 | what would be the most simple way to compile a kernel module into an installer CD (the server install CD does not have XTS) | 23:56 |
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