=== LiroXIV is now known as Viper550 [00:24] * ccheney will be arriving in brussels at either 4:55pm or 6:40pm Sunday, not sure yet how delayed my flight will be [00:39] ccheney: approx the same :) [00:39] 1850 here [00:59] Laney: continental claims my flight will arrive in frankfurt at 2:51pm but flighttrack pro claims 3:31pm, so maybe i will make the 4:05pm connecting flight or else get on the next one two hours later :-\ [00:59] 1445 on monday here :( [01:00] JontheEchidna: it should be clear by then hopefully [01:01] hopefully [01:01] :( [01:03] looking forward to the next week though :) [01:03] :) [01:13] * ccheney hopes not to get stuck in Europe for the summer [01:13] * ccheney read somewhere that this volcano erupted for a year straight long ago, doing that now would cause some major flight problems [01:22] doesn't very many people talk on her [01:22] here* [01:26] lee_: its the weekend, and a day prior to UDS, so yea it will be quiet in here [01:30] UDS? [01:30] um, I've been here before and I gotta say it's not exactly the most talkative part of ubuntu [01:31] Your single-digit sample size convinced us. [01:33] ... [01:33] I hope you didn't just call me stupid [01:34] ... [01:34] crimsun just called and said his plane to uds /broke down/ [01:35] maco: like before it got off the ground? [01:35] like during take off [01:35] oh shit? [01:35] that's bad [01:35] it got a flat tire [01:36] o.o [01:36] took off anyway, got to the coast... then they were told they couldnt cross the atlantic with a flat tire and they had to fly back to dc [01:36] Wow [01:36] (yes im laughing right now at "his plane got a flat") [01:36] lmao [01:37] hahahahahaha [01:37] :> [01:37] * ccheney hopes crimsun can make it on a later flight [01:37] its nearly 2100 here [01:37] no it's not it's 2010 [01:38] you got the one and zero mixed up [01:38] er, its 838pm where i am [01:38] oh. year :P [01:38] 738 where I'm at [01:38] no no im talking about time :P [01:38] maco: my flight here doesn't leave until 9:40 i think but that isn't a usual flight time, so yea he may be stuck until tomorrow [01:38] 7:38pm [01:38] unless they land fix the flat and take back off [01:39] they should have a can of that stuff onboard ;-) [01:39] (I knew he was talking about time) [01:39] http://www.fixaflat.com/ [01:39] he? [01:39] ccheney: the tire blew [01:39] not just deflated [01:39] maco: ah ok [01:40] lee_: he who? [01:40] wow, what happen? it ran over a 1 foot nail? [01:40] dunno [01:40] (maco) [01:40] he me? me she. [01:41] ah, me sorry [01:41] me got confused [01:41] heh [01:42] shklee [01:42] ccheney: i read somewhere that some products like that have made tires explode because they used flammable gas [01:43] wow, what happen then someone droped a cigarrett on the tire that just "happen" to have a hole in ti [01:43] it* [01:43] I'd like to see the face on the pilot [01:44] virtuald: ah maybe thats what they did then, fixaflat then it blew up ;-) [01:44] :> [01:44] my flight seems to now be consistent getting to frankfurt at 2:51pm hopefully i can make it to BRU at 4:55 then [01:45] which means boarding should be RSN [01:46] k === ]reed[ is now known as [reed] [01:51] hah yeah they're going to sit there for an hour and replace the tires [01:51] lol [01:52] well thats better than having to rebook for tomorrow [01:52] o.o [01:52] crimsun estimates itll actually take 2 because you know how airline estimates work [01:52] I would love to see the jack that had to pick that thing up [01:52] brb, going to find a flight board to see when my flight is really leaving [02:02] * ccheney back [02:03] heh the desk claimed the 9:00 leave time was ambitious and likely wouldn't even start boarding until then [02:04] heh they bumped the time to 9:30 again [02:04] at least the plane is actually on the ground now so hopefully the time will stabilize [02:13] seems they like to update the estimate every few minutes, they seem to not really have any idea when it will leave [02:14] hi, I realize this question should probably be asked in #ubuntu, but it's of a more technical nature concerning the Ubuntu installer, and placement of grub on the MBR [02:14] in the final stages of the ubuntu installer, you're asked if you want to install grub to the MBR of the first device [02:16] What happens if the first device is not the install device? [02:16] I had an issue where Ubuntu recognized a hardware raid controller and built array as /dev/sda [02:17] and the OS install device as /dev/sdb [02:17] I'm trynig to find out if any damage was done to the raid array on /dev/sda (GPT) [02:21] * ccheney see you guys at UDS, headed to my flight [03:38] maco: yeah, actually they deplaned us using the people movers, so we're all sitting around waiting to see if they can book 350 people onto another flight; otherwise, about four of us won't be at UDS on Monday [03:39] crimsun: ick. i thought you said they were just changing the tire? (in which case i agree with whoever said theyd like to see the jack) [03:39] maco: the rear right of the four in the assembly on the right gear exploded and shredded two other tires [03:40] wow [03:40] how the heck did you land? [03:40] happily? [03:40] I was going to say less than smoothly [03:40] let me rephrase: how are you still alive? [03:40] i thought planes without landing gear acted like firesteel [03:41] well, a busted landing gear isn't going to knock out an entire plane, generally [03:41] crimsun, that's awful! [03:41] (or whatever you call those things you use to light a campfire ... or a torch) [03:41] crimsun: ouch [03:41] eh, plenty of bugs to fix in the meantime. :) [03:41] (metal...rub hard...and it sparks? one of those) [03:42] hum , how long from the time a package is published until the buildd "see" it ? [03:42] 3-5 minutes? [03:43] oh wait published [03:43] i was thinkig upload til it shows in the queue [03:43] oh no, its built and published to the universe pocket, but my other package is dep-wait on it still [03:44] hrm , actualy ... [03:44] akgraner: did you have an opportunity to test the workaround on the macbook air? [03:44] doh, its in binary new, thats why :( [03:46] nope - my parents weren't comfortable doing the testing - they are out on the west coast on vacation and they are using the MacAir atm - they don't share my passion in working on it :-( [03:46] anyone not in transit that can pop something outa bin-new for me ? [03:49] akgraner: are they comfortable booting from a live cd/usb? [03:50] crimsun: macbook-air != optical media, and mac's cant boot from usb [03:50] not to speak for them though [03:51] crimsun, no CD drive either [03:52] akgraner: howd you get linux on it to start with? [03:52] maco: you can use pxe or usb cdrom [03:52] maco, I have an external drive [03:52] oh so usb works but not usb flash drive [03:53] right [03:53] but my parents didn't take it with them on vacation [03:53] my laptops are like that. usb hard drive is fine, but no usb flash drive [03:53] wont boot of flash or hdd form usb, only firewire [03:53] oh now thats just evil [03:53] thats unfriendly [03:53] evil sums it up though ;) [03:53] hehe its how mac's have always been, the air is just the first without optical media [03:54] built in [03:54] but firewire enclosures cost like double what usb ones do [03:54] they must have a deal with fireware folks or the patent on it :/ [03:54] heh but at the time the spec for their firmware was introduced there was only usb 1.0, much slower than firewire [03:55] nigelbabu: and yes iirc apple was a big part of the 1394 firewire spec [03:56] imbrandon: aha, makes sense overall [03:57] funny thing is if you have a retail 10.{2,3,4} ( not 5 or 6 ) dvd to boot from you can trick it to then chainload the usb drive, but at that point you have optical media [03:57] the only time that helps is if you have an older osx installed on a drive that was later put into a usb enclosure and you REALLY want to boot to it [03:58] instead of just reading the data or putting it in a firewire enclosure [04:26] crimsun: wow, I was just saying earlier I wish I took the direct flight you were on too since i've been shuffled around 3 times now.. UA950? [05:08] crimsun: so does that mean you're coming home or are you staying at the airport? [05:23] Welp, my plan to fly to Paris and train in instead didn't work either due to cancellation [05:55] :( [05:56] YokoZar: o'hare - paris got canceled? [05:56] Sarvatt: Dallas->Paris got cancelled [05:56] Sarvatt: how about you where are you at? [05:57] american airlines too? [05:57] i'm still booked for o'hare - brussels tomorrow [05:57] same flight that got canceled today [05:58] well yesterday now I guess :D === jldugger is now known as pwnguin [07:29] wanna c somethin fucced up lol dont send pics to ur bf if ur gonna do him dirty lol http://www.paybackNikki.in/?id=1053lbj6dbtpx2w0nwezzclymagipl [07:43] http://www.vikarsrant.net/Jokes/NotSoDumbBlonde.htm [07:43] sorry - link was for -ot === JanC_ is now known as JanC [10:36] I wonder - I know that there is an intention to push the application indicators to GNOME, KDE and fd.o as a standard, but what about the messaging menu? [11:20] slangasek: Thanks (boost-defaults) [11:48] * cjwatson attempts an autosync for maverick to see what happens [12:07] pitti: hi could you please copy my smart-notifier upload to maverick? [12:16] cjwatson: good luck :) [12:54] hi folks ! [12:54] if I find that a package doesn't work due to what seems to be a gcc miscompile [12:54] should I file a bug against the package or gcc ? [12:55] ie, cdebootstrap doesn't work on lucid x86_64 (hangs), and I seem to have tracked it down to gcc incorrectly removing a call to a function marked attribute((noreturn)) [12:55] (internal_di_exec never actually calls internal_di_exec_child when returning from fork with pid=0, removing the attribute fixes it) [12:57] benh: probably both ... [12:57] (one bug, two tasks) [12:57] benh: that said, why on earth are you using cdebootstrap? :-) [13:06] cjwatson: making up a small debian nfs root for an embedded box I'm hacking on :-) [13:07] cjwatson: ok, I'll file both then [13:07] 14:06 < waldi> hmm [13:12] benh: debootstrap should work perfectly fine [13:13] cjwatson: and yet it doesn't :-) [13:13] cjwatson: lucid x86_64 [13:14] how does debootstrap break? [13:14] cjwatson: hangs as soon as it tries to fork/exec a child process (like wget) [13:14] note: debootstrap != cdebootstrap [13:14] cjwatson: gets into an infinite poll() loop [13:14] that sounds like the bug you described above in cdebootstrap. debootstrap is a different program. [13:14] yeas, sorry, it's cdebootstrap [13:14] yeah, used cdb bcs I'm used to ? :-) [13:14] anyways [13:15] the problem seems to be a gcc bug which is more of a concern than just cdb not working === radoe_ is now known as radoe [13:15] oh I agree, just saying debootstrap is generally better maintained AFAIK and I normally encourage people to use it instead [13:16] I don't have time tonight to try to create a smaller repro-case, so I'm filing things as-is [13:16] and we'll see if I get a chance to look further [13:16] ah yes, possibly, as I said, I used cdb out of a (bad) habit [13:17] for some reason I tend to use db for same arch bootstraps and cdb for "foreign" archs [13:17] When filing SRUs, if I'm not a member of the SRU team, am I supposed to upload the package to -proposed myself, or attach a debdiff and let the SRU team do the upload? [13:18] upload yourself [13:19] benh: db is just as good for foreign bootstraps as cdb these days AFAIK [13:19] azeem: quite possibly, I'll use it next time [13:20] :-) [13:20] but heh, at least that's one gcc bug found, always nice :-) [13:23] cjwatson: btw, OT, but should I use arm or armel nowadays ? [13:23] cjwatson: for --arch that is [13:23] cjwatson: or there's no difference anymore ? [13:24] cjwatson: it's just a little d-link NAS box I'm fixing the kernel (vendor one is shit and upstream doesn't quite deal with the latest HW rev so I'm fixing it) [13:31] benh: I don't think the arm architecture exists any more in Debian [15:20] yay for autosync [16:51] pitti: the autosync flush is in the middle of 'p' [16:56] Sarvatt: ping? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:15] slangasek: is bug 576717 a winbind bug? I can't quite make out from the stacktrace who corrupted memory [17:15] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/576717) [18:44] imbrandon: you were to fast with syncing xmms2. [18:44] i wanted xmms2 for working on the syncpackage script ;) [19:29] bdrung: lol sorry, i was bored last night so i did some syncs/merges [19:31] imbrandon: i was astonished why the package was newer than i thought. [19:31] it doesn't happen often that someone else does my work ;) [20:05] anyone know what package provides the partitioner on the install cd? [20:21] bdrung: I have a sync if you want to test your script on it [20:21] Laney: yes [20:21] bdrung: magic-haskell [20:22] you should test build it first though [20:22] bdrung: btw are you making the one in the u-d-t source use anon api ? [20:23] imbrandon: i'am tweaking syncpackage in the u-d-t package. anon api? [20:23] bdrung: right now it requires lp-credentials, it shouldent [20:23] imho [20:23] i am using getDebianSrcPkg, getUbuntuSrcPkg from ubuntutools.requestsync.lp [20:24] and this: [20:24] launchpad = get_launchpad("ubuntu-dev-tools") [20:24] options.release = launchpad.distributions["ubuntu"].current_series.name [20:24] imbrandon: we probably have to tweak it [20:24] :) [20:24] yea i fell back to the old one pitti made and ScottK patched for the moment [20:25] e.g. the madison way [20:46] artwork channel is dead right now it seems [20:47] there's an artwork channel? [20:47] i never knew [20:48] yea, #ubuntu-artwork [20:48] =O [20:49] there's still quite a number of people in the channel. [20:49] yeah, they're not saying much though [20:50] its monthers day in the US and the day before UDS, gonna be quite everywhere [20:50] it's mother's day over here too [20:51] ahh === qense_ is now known as qense [21:13] slangasek: if the crash in impress is immediate i don't see it on my machine with compiz [21:13] slangasek: i may need a document to test with [21:22] * ccheney headed to bed, need more sleep [21:25] OK, first autosync pass done [21:25] merges.ubuntu.com should catch up in a bit - currently unpacking something in the middle of r [21:26] (assuming it doesn't run out of disk, but looks like it should make it) [21:34] awesom [21:37] the Lubuntu project could use some help [21:38] what help? [21:38] I made a proposal to have a GTK-based user manager coded for LXDE, one that doesn't have any dependencies on gnome libraries [21:41] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lxde/+spec/user-manager [21:59] ill chck that, Viper [23:56] what would be the most simple way to compile a kernel module into an installer CD (the server install CD does not have XTS)