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Bachstelzeguys, what do with #577627 ? it could warrant a SRU, but I'm not familiar with the process00:57
Bachstelzeoho wow, I really need to go to bed, there's one from 2 months ago already >.>01:01
lfaraonebug 57762701:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 577627 in php-mcrypt "Shipped config file uses deprecated "#" comment" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57762701:04
lfaraoneBachstelze: Warnings like that probably do not meet the SRU criteria. Will the problem cause applications to fail?01:05
Bachstelzenope, I wonder why it's still there, though01:06
Bachstelzegiven it was reported before the release01:06
lfaraoneBachstelze: nobody found it, and the user did not subscribe ubuntu-sponsors.01:07
lfaraoneBachstelze: can you provide a command that demostrates the issue?01:08
Bachstelzeanything with php-cli01:08
Bachstelzelike  php --version01:08
Bachstelzewith mcrypt installed01:08
Bachstelzethere's also a bunch of other extensions with the same problem01:09
lfaraoneBachstelze: I see.01:10
lfaraoneBachstelze: It might be useful to report the problems when they occur to the upstream maintainers, as well as Debian. Carrying an ubuntu delta for a bunch of packages just to fix deprecation warnings seems a bit overkill if you can get upstream or Debian to cooperate.01:11
lfaraone*as to Debian01:11
Bachstelzeit's fiit was fixed in Debian in 5.3.2-101:12
lfaraoneBachstelze: Okay. The reason it was not fixed in Ubuntu was because the patch provided by the original reporter did  not fix the problem.01:14
lfaraone(Reading bug 540208, from what I can tell)01:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 540208 in php-mcrypt "deprecated comment in mcrypt.ini" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54020801:14
Bachstelzelfaraone: you can also mark #577591 as a duplicate (or Invalid)01:23
lfaraoneBachstelze: already done.01:24
Bachstelzeno, you did 577627 ;)01:27
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* hyperair wonders when the debian autosync begins08:04
imbrandonhyperair: i'd assume sometime monday durring UDS when someone has time to turn the bits on08:05
hyperairoh cool08:05
imbrandonmaybe later today if someone is stuck in transit or got there early08:05
imbrandonbut again this is just my guess , from prior cycles08:06
imbrandonbut its normaly very very soon after the "archive open" email comes08:06
imbrandonthey also may be waiting for the default gcc discussion too08:07
hyperairi see.08:08
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om26erhow do I know which package is synced from debian and which is not?. after packaging a newer version if I get 'we sync this from debian' thats not good.10:38
nigelbabuom26er: packages without ubuntu specific changes are synced from debian10:54
om26ernigelbabu, that would make it more than 80%packages?10:55
nigelbabuom26er: yup10:55
om26erthanks nigelbabu10:55
BlackZif there are bugs in some files of the debian package which I'm packaging from scratch, is it better to apply a patch for the files or modify the files instead? (license: GPL3 +)12:01
BlackZs/debian package/source12:02
astraljavaBlackZ: From what I understand, you should be patching, as you're not upstream, are you?12:06
BlackZastraljava: no12:08
BlackZastraljava: OK, I've patched it. Thanks ;)12:11
imbrandonScottK: can you prod a package through binary NEW ?12:12
imbrandonthe source package is the same as before, it just builds a few more binarys now ( from a debian sync )12:13
imbrandonbtw hopefully your flight(s) were uneventful :)12:14
imbrandoni saw crimsun and a few others wernt so lucky12:14
ScottKimbrandon: I made it.  What package?12:57
imbrandonScottK: opensync13:11
imbrandonis the source package13:11
* ScottK looks13:11
ScottKLove the debian/changelog entry.13:14
azeemyeah13:14
azeemone of my favourite messups!13:15
imbrandonheh what part?13:18
azeemhttp://packages.qa.debian.org/o/opensync/news/20100206T230242Z.html13:18
imbrandonahh13:20
nigelbabuoh what a messup indeed!13:20
nigelbabuand what is 'unreleased'!13:20
azeemit's a secret Debian distribution which will reclaim victory from Ubuntu13:22
azeemgot accidently leaked through this upload13:22
nigelbabuyes, and they tend to not have changelog entires to confuse us :D13:23
ScottKimbrandon: Done.13:23
imbrandonScottK: ty13:24
nigelbabuazeem: I wonder, isn't lintian supposed to catch such type of mistakes?13:26
azeemthe guy probably didn't run lintian13:27
azeemimbrandon, ScottK: http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/opensync/news/20100509T130257Z.html14:03
ScottKRevisonism ...14:05
ScottKWe'll get it on the next autosync run.14:05
azeemScottK: there was a subversion tag of -3 with those changes already, so...14:06
azeemplus it fixes an RC bug14:06
ScottKIt will come in the next autosync run.14:06
azeemsure14:06
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laymanstermsHi, I need to get a dependency packaged for a piece of software that I work on. The dependency I need is very similar to another package that is already in universe. What is the best way to get in contact with the packager? The package in question is pyclutter-gtk.19:49
nigelbabulaymansterms: look at changelog and get in touch with last updater19:49
nigelbabuespecially if that person has @ubuntu or @debian email ID19:50
laymanstermsnigelbabu, the ChangeLog for pyclutter-gtk says it was generated by 'configure.' Does that matter?19:51
laymanstermsor should I still try to contact that person?19:51
macoChangeLog? no, look at debian/changelog19:51
nigelbabuum, yeah debian/changelog19:51
laymanstermsoh, oops. Sorry, I forget about the debian changelog.19:52
* laymansterms has very little packaging experience.19:52
laymanstermsnigelbabu, the email in the changelog is a debian email address. Do you know of a good channel to ask in? Something equivalent to #ubuntu-motu for Debian?19:54
nigelbabu#debian-mentors on oftc19:54
hyperairsomeone with a notebook with one battery please tell me what battery number you have (/sys/class/power_supply/BATN)19:54
ScottKlaymansterms: If the package comes straight from Debian unmodified, I'd email the maintainer19:54
hyperairapparently mine's BAT1, but conky hardcodes BAT019:54
laymanstermsScottK, okay, I'll give that a shot.19:55
ScottKhyperair: BAT1 on a Dell mini 10v.19:55
laymanstermsnigelbabu, thanks.19:55
hyperairScottK: thanks.19:55
hyperairanyone else?19:55
nigelbabuhyperair: one sec19:56
macoScottK: so, what country are you in?19:56
nigelbabuhyperair: BAT019:56
ScottKmaco: Belgium.19:56
hyperairnigelbabu: interesting.19:56
hyperairnigelbabu: so only some computers are affected. whee.19:57
macoScottK: ok so you made it then. dan's plane got a flat tire last night and wasnt allowed to cross the ocean. i think he's hanging out at the airport on standby right now19:57
BlackZcould a MOTU review/advocate http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/autotrash ? thanks19:57
nigelbabumaco: oh, dan still doesn't have  flight?19:57
maconigelbabu: well he came home last night and was still here when i went out this morning19:58
ScottKmaco: Ouch.19:58
macobut he's gone now, so i assume at airport19:58
imbrandonhyperair: mine also is BAT120:04
imbrandonhyperair: toshiba , old intel celeron m based laptop20:04
imbrandonScottK: are autosyncs on/running now ?20:06
ScottKI think it was run the first time earlier toda.20:06
ScottKy20:06
ScottKNot sure how it worked out.20:07
imbrandonk20:07
imbrandonhow often does merges.u.c update ?20:07
geserimbrandon: cjwatson started one20:07
imbrandongeser: great20:07
ScottKimbrandon: I think /6 hoours20:09
imbrandonk20:09
imbrandontrying to plan for my next 2 days, gonna be offline for 4 hours chunks 3x over the next 2 days20:09
imbrandonso i'm trying to stack a bit of "offline" stuff to do20:09
geserthe buildds are busy the next three days at least20:10
imbrandonoh i'm sure20:10
imbrandoni got some "real" work to do also ( as in my day job ) so i'll likely do some of that too20:11
imbrandonScottK: i tell you i switched companies ?20:12
ScottKimbrandon: I thought you started your own store, or is that just a side job?20:13
imbrandonScottK: thats just a side thing , online only20:13
imbrandonScottK: i went to work for the company BenC is working at now, actualy working on the same project ;)20:14
ScottKAh.20:14
ScottKI see.20:14
ScottKNo, you hadn't mentioned it.20:14
imbrandonyes, its really a quite cool project, and its based on Ubuntu LTS , woot20:15
imbrandonits mostly a 4 to 5 guy team, he is doing the drive/kernel stuff, i got the front end, and there there is some SA and QA guys20:16
imbrandondriver*20:16
laymanstermshello again, is there a Ubuntu meta package that is helpful for installing helpful packaging tools? I feel like there is but I can't remember the name of it. devscripts or something.20:25
c_kornlaymansterms: correct, http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/devscripts20:26
laymanstermsc_korn, I just did an apt-cache search for "packaging" and saw ubuntu-dev-tools. Do you know the difference between devscripts and ubuntu-dev-tools?20:27
hyperairlaymansterms: and ubuntu-dev-tools20:27
hyperairlaymansterms: devscripts originates from debian.20:28
laymanstermsI'd like to use bzr builddeb... is that plugin in one of those packages?20:28
hyperairlaymansterms: ubuntu-dev-tools is ubuntu-specific.20:28
hyperairbzr builddeb is a package of its own afaik20:28
imbrandonlaymansterms: use both, devscripts is more generic but required and u-d-t makes your life easier ;)20:28
laymanstermsimbrandon, ubuntu-dev-tools says it replaces devscripts20:30
imbrandonlaymansterms: yea it probably has some of the updated scripts , it used to depend on it20:30
imbrandonnow probably encompases it20:30
laymanstermsit's weird: Depends: devscripts Conflicts: devscripts Replaces: devscripts20:31
laymansterms(lines from apt-cache depends ubuntu-dev-tools)20:31
imbrandonhum20:46
crimsunimbrandon: congrats. Good to be able to hook people up20:58
imbrandoncrimsun: ty ty20:58
imbrandoncrimsun: i already got some of the hardware in hand to install monday, looks like its going to be a fun project20:59
crimsunnice20:59
imbrandoncrimsun: did you finaly make it , or still waiting somewhere in-between21:02
crimsunimbrandon: I'm still at the origin; our rebooked flight is scheduled for 1715 departure from Dulles21:09
crimsunfour of us are going to be dragging at the opening meeting21:10
imbrandonheh i bet, that sucks21:10
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