[00:08] <primetime34> I'm new to xubuntu and have a few questions.  How can I make compiz work so I can use docky?
[00:09] <moetunes> !compiz | primetime34
[00:10] <primetime34> I can get it to work fine in ubuntu, but how can I get it to run and autostart in xubuntu?
[00:12] <moetunes> I've never bothered with compiz - have you tried adding it to autostarted apps?
[00:14] <primetime34> how do I add to autostarted apps?
[00:16] <primetime34> Or is there a dock program I can use that doesn't require compiz
[00:17] <moetunes> there's a gui for that in system settings - I just make xfce4-panel look like a dock
[00:17] <moetunes> !dock
[00:18] <moetunes> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/HOWTO_Autostart_Programs - is a howto do it manually
[00:18] <Sysi> saving session don't work?
[00:19] <Sysi> tap in logout window
[00:19] <primetime34> Is there a gui for autostart?  I can't find it though..
[00:20] <Sysi> you btw shouldn't need compiz
[00:20] <Sysi> enable compisiting in "window manager tweaks"
[00:21] <moetunes> there's awn for a dock
[00:21] <primetime34> Gotcha..where is "window manager tweaks" located?
[00:21] <Sysi> settings in menu
[00:21] <primetime34> Thank you...very helpful
[00:22] <moetunes> !awn
[00:23] <Sysi> dock's are different
[00:23] <primetime34> I know about awn, I think I prefer docky...might give them both a try though
[00:26] <primetime34> Any idea why my 1 tb ntfs drive isn't being mounted or even recognized?
[00:27] <moetunes> does it show in   sudo fdisk -l   ?
[00:29] <primetime34> nope
[00:30] <moetunes> hmmm - do you have ntfs-3g installed - I think it normally is as default now
[00:31] <primetime34> yeah, it's installed
[00:33] <moetunes> if fdisk doesn't see it I have no idea how to get it mounted...
[00:33] <moetunes> sure it is connected?
[00:34] <primetime34> power had come undone...it shows up in fdisk now but still isn't mounting
[00:36] <moetunes> you need to make a dir to mount it to - mkdir -v /media/somename
[00:36] <primetime34> okay...next
[00:37] <moetunes> then using /dev/whateveritis   sudo mount -v /dev/whateveritis /media/somename
[00:37] <moetunes> from fdisk ^
[00:38] <primetime34> will I need to do this everytime I start or will it automount like Ubuntu from now on?
[00:40] <moetunes> you can add an entry in /etc/fstab to have it mounted at boot if you like
[00:41] <primetime34> working on that now...how do I install all the additional screensavers in xscreensaver?
[00:42] <moetunes> I never use the screensaver - maybe the bot link will help
[00:42] <moetunes> !screensaver
[00:43] <moetunes> nope...
[00:43] <primetime34> what do I type into the fstab?
[00:44] <moetunes> something like   /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs-3g   defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[00:46] <Sysi> try to search screensavers in synaptic or software center
[00:46] <oozy> Folks, can you help me solve problem with disappeared panels in 10.04 build?
[00:47] <primetime34> There are some entries but nothing that points towards xscreensaver
[00:47] <Sysi> !panels | oozy
[00:57] <oozy> Huh, when i try alt+f2 > xfce4-panel > run, panels flickering and desapears. Some error messages about GST_IS_MIXER_TRACK shows in terminal.
[01:00] <moetunes> oozy: can you run xfce4-panel from terminal and paste the errors?
[01:00] <knome> !pastebin | oozy
[01:01] <oozy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/430285/
[01:04] <moetunes> oozy: you could   sudo apt-get remove --purge xfce4-mixer-plugin   then reinstall it - I've no idea why it is doing that tho
[01:05] <oozy> thx :}
[01:08] <sumner> I need a little help.
[01:09] <sumner> I need to know how to browse my local network with Xubuntu. Access files on my other computers.
[01:10] <sumner> With Gnome there was a "network" thingy that let me do it.
[01:11] <sumner> But I decided to try Xubuntu, which is all nice and fast and stuff.
[01:12] <sumner> Any suggestions, anyone?
[01:13] <Sysi> !gigolo
[01:13] <Sysi> !info gigolo
[01:14] <sumner> OK, it's apparently installed (according to the Synaptic Package Manager)...
[01:15] <sumner> ...but now what?
[01:16] <sumner> (yes, I'm new at all this)
[01:22] <sumner> ...hello?
[01:23] <sumner> Is this a chatroom or a parking lot? lol
[01:23] <TheSheep> it's neither
[02:06] <homebrewcider> does anyone know if Xubuntu 10.04 has the ability to print to the printer cd tray yet?
[02:39] <Yoques> Hi
[02:40] <Yoques> I have problems with Thunar in all my PC's, and I had to install nautilus and do sudo nautilus too much times
[02:41] <Yoques> someone solution to thunar rules correctly, and let me double click amd open the selected folders? And about mount and unmount automatical USB?
[02:42] <Yoques> mmm... :S
[02:42] <Yoques> Too much problems, but I wanna xubuntu can run correctly, if possible with my help
[02:46] <hatake_kakashi> its a known bug issue with xubuntu lucid
[02:46] <Yoques> solutions?
[02:46] <Yoques> and too with new kernel, 2 laptops crashed
[02:46] <Yoques> :S
[02:47] <Yoques> I) have not problems now, because now I can resolve the problems with others solutions... jejeje... but I know to somebody with old laptops can be extremately bad
[02:48] <hatake_kakashi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/546992
[02:50] <Yoques> thx
[02:57] <Yoques> that was the most "engorroso" error https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/520118
[02:57] <Yoques> with control+1 or control+2 it's solved
[03:00] <homebrewcider> change thunar to open with one click for now
[03:08] <Yoques> homebrewcider, I don't like one click, but is a good option
[03:09] <Yoques> One of the things I can't solve is to change the menu pannel, edit the menu, similar like in gnome pannel
[03:10] <Yoques> I coldn't do it
[03:21] <Yoques> bye
[04:21] <om3n5150> How do I back up the exact setup of my OS right now? Like... compile my own distro of what I have?
[04:23] <moetunes> !clone | om3n5150
[04:24] <om3n5150> !automate
[04:25] <om3n5150> !cloning
[04:26] <om3n5150> where is the file located?
[04:26] <om3n5150> nvm
[04:28] <om3n5150> thanks moe
[04:28] <moetunes> np :]
[04:31] <Nitro> Am I able to get help with my Ubuntu here?
[04:42] <GothSpark> hi all , I need help to recover the desktop on Xubuntu 10.4 I do not have the desktop Icones and I do not have right click on it and no backgroud ....
[04:45] <moetunes> sounds like xfdesktop didn't start maybe
[04:46] <GothSpark> :/ I didn't know that they changed the desktop mananger O.o , still I might screwed other things cause I tryed nautilus but it crashed
[04:47] <moetunes> you're in the xubuntu channel - nautilus isn't what's used in xubuntu
[04:48] <moetunes> nautilus has an option to manage the desktop icons iirc - you need to start it with   nautilus --no-desktop   I beleive
[04:48] <GothSpark> I know , eeem so ee how to ensure that xfdesktop starts up every time cause it actualy does not
[04:49] <moetunes> in terminal do   xfdesktop &    and the session manager should get it going at each boot
[04:49] <GothSpark> ok thank's
[04:49] <moetunes> luck
[04:52] <GothSpark> it has worked , thank's again moetunes
[04:53] <moetunes> :]
[05:52] <robertzaccour> can i install gnome-panel in xfce?
[05:52] <Monocian> Should I upgrade to 10.04? Will it be slower than 9.10? : (
[05:52] <robertzaccour> Monocian, its faster
[05:53] <Monocian> Oh
[05:53] <moetunes> robertzaccour: it will bring alot of gnome stuff with it - what does gnome-panel have that you need/
[05:53] <moetunes> ?
[05:53] <robertzaccour> moetunes, http://techie-buzz.com/foss/ubuntu-10-10-will-not-have-gnome-shell.html
[05:54] <robertzaccour> oops wrong link
[05:54] <robertzaccour> moetunes, oops forget that wrong link
[05:54] <moetunes> robertzaccour: I was gonna say what?
[05:54] <robertzaccour> moetunes, actually thats the link with the screenshot of gnome-panel
[05:54] <Monocian> Upgrading and Installing everything new is the same? Because I've seen some complaints about 10.04 in the forum...
[05:55] <robertzaccour> Monocian, try the live and see how it is first
[05:56] <Monocian> Ok. Thank you :)
[05:56] <robertzaccour> moetunes, did ya see that screenshot? that looks sweet. you think i can add that in xfce without losing speed?
[05:57] <moetunes> robertzaccour: nope and nope
[05:57] <robertzaccour> moetunes, you didn't look at that link with the screenshot?
[05:57] <moetunes> it will be slower
[05:58] <moetunes> nope
[05:58] <moetunes> I've seen gnome-panel before...
[05:58] <robertzaccour> moetunes, this looks different than you may have seen. its got a lot of menu stuff in the same box to the left side
[05:59] <moetunes> robertzaccour: that's great :]
[06:00] <robertzaccour> moetunes, check it out http://techie-buzz.com/foss/ubuntu-10-10-will-not-have-gnome-shell.html
[06:01] <moetunes> robertzaccour: I'm not really interested in panels mate - or gnome...
[06:02] <robertzaccour> moetunes, you don't use xfce panels?
[06:02] <moetunes> robertzaccour: I have one xfce4-panel I use as a dock sometimes - right click the desktop for a menu
[06:03] <moetunes> xxce is very configurable
[06:03] <moetunes> s/xxce/xfce
[06:05] <moetunes> I guess I upset him not using panels ...
[06:18] <bawr> Hello. A quick question - if I want to install xubuntu on an eee, do I need to do anything special for hargware support / performance / etc?
[06:22] <moetunes> bawr: seems there is a xfce version for the eee - digg.com/linux_unix/Xubuntu_for_EEE_PC
[06:22] <moetunes> and there is   #eeepc   channel too
[06:24] <bawr> That thing you linked is 3 years old, and it uses 7.10. :)
[06:25] <moetunes> so i did   and there is   #eeepc   channel too   to give further help
[06:26] <bawr> Yeah thanks, I;m going to ask there. :)
[06:26] <moetunes> luck :]
[06:29] <bawr> I'm going for Xubuntu because it has a smooth transition to awesomewm, among other things. ;)
[06:30] <moetunes> heh - you just start with the minimal cd once you know about getting the h/ware working
[06:30] <moetunes> could*
[06:31] <bawr> Well, I'm a lazy guy, so no. If I wanted to spend some time on this, I'd probably get Arch or something. :)
[06:31] <moetunes> k :]
[06:32] <moetunes> why not just do the netbook release
[06:32] <moetunes> !unr
[06:33] <arthurjohnson> I ran into space problems with unr.  I had to go with Xubuntu, uses half the disk space.
[06:33] <moetunes> did not know that arthurjohnson ...
[06:33] <moetunes> thnx
[06:34] <arthurjohnson> UNR uses almost 3 gigs.  It was impossible to do an upgrade, not enough room.
[06:34] <bawr> I'm using it at the moment, and yeah. Disk space can be a pain, and it installs the whole gnome package, which I could do without.
[06:34] <arthurjohnson> They need a minimal UNR.  Why on a netbook would you need Evolution and the full openoffice suite?
[06:35] <arthurjohnson> And every application that comes with Ubuntu?  Kinda stupid if you ask me.
[06:35] <arthurjohnson> My daughter's Eee only has 4 gigs total.
[06:36] <moetunes> sounds like it was made on the fly - just adding what was needed to make it work...
[06:36] <bawr> Yeah, especially OO seems kinda lame.
[06:37] <bawr> Hm. A quick look at software.sources shows that UNR has the same repositories, so it's all in the package selection.
[06:38] <arthurjohnson> I installed Xubuntu for her.  Combined everything onto one panel, shrunk it to 20 pixels, and installed the classic compact, compact menu 2, and pimpoflage on Firefox.  Disabled the bookmarks bar and the tab bar hides with one tab.  She is very happy now.
[06:38] <arthurjohnson> Plenty of screen space.
[06:41] <bawr> Did you put that tab on the bottom? I find that more usable, with maximus or something similar it's kinda mac-like. ;)
[06:42] <arthurjohnson> No, just checked off "always show tab bar" in the tab preferences.
[06:42] <bawr> I meant the xfce panel.
[06:43] <arthurjohnson> Oh, no. I couldn't get the window picker to work right with xfce.
[06:43] <bawr> Ah.
[07:43] <monocian> My laptop couldnt read the 10.04 disk but my dad's can ...
[07:44] <monocian> Should I upgrade 10.04 from 9.10?
[07:45] <_Techie_> monocian, up to you
[07:45] <_Techie_> 10.04 is a LTS release, but i wont force you to upgrade
[07:45] <monocian> Will there be problems?
[07:46] <_Techie_> i cant be sure
[07:46] <_Techie_> but there will almost always be problems
[07:46] <_Techie_> only way to know is to upgrade
[07:46] <monocian> Vale~
[07:47] <monocian> But is it worth upgrading?
[07:48] <monocian> ...such a silly question...
[07:51] <moetunes> there is a thunar bug to be aware of...
[07:53] <moetunes> 10.04 boots so quick I think on it's own that makes it worthwhile
[09:50] <renata> hello, I've just intalled xubuntu 10.04 and I cannot find 2 of my partitions which I have created. Please help for acces them. Thanks.
[09:50] <renata> I also have some strange fonts issue. Some of the fonts are not rendered correcly (parts of fonts are missing
[09:50] <renata> thansk
[09:50] <renata> thanks
[09:59] <drcode> hi all
[09:59] <drcode> after upgrade to xubuntu 9.10 , my mouse dissaper , any idea?
[10:37] <moetunes> renata: do the partitions show in   sudo fdisk -l   ?
[10:38] <renata> moetunes, yes they do. however i am new here and it is too complicated to make them show every boot. I would really appreaciate some help
[10:39] <moetunes> renata: you first need to make a folder to mount them in   mkdir -v /media/somename
[10:40] <renata> moetunes, ok, i've done that
[10:40] <moetunes> renata: what filesystem do they use? - ext3 or ntfs or ...
[10:40] <renata> moetunes, one is fat32 other ext4
[10:41] <moetunes> renata: you need to open the file   /etc/fstab    for editing
[10:42] <moetunes> for fat something like   /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[10:42] <renata> ok I'll try.
[10:42] <moetunes> for ext3 something like   dev/hda8       /home           ext3    noatime         0       2
[10:43] <renata> moetunes, ok, I have many numbers in that file ....
[10:44] <moetunes> renata: you can just add a line to the end of that file - what do you mean many numbers?
[10:44] <renata> UUID=b1d5c203-da58-465b-aa32-b82304164794 /home
[10:45] <moetunes> renata: that's fine - just add the entries to the end of the file - and make a new line after both entries are done - where the line I showed said /home you add the folder in /media you made
[10:46] <moetunes> !uuid
[10:47] <moetunes> renata: when you have edited the file to your satisfaction do in terminal   sudo mount -av   to mount them
[10:49] <renata> moetunes, please tell If Ive added the last line correctly
[10:49] <renata> http://pastebin.com/hcES3bmj
[10:50] <moetunes> k
[10:51] <renata> ok?
[10:51] <moetunes> renata: that looks fine - you just need to hit the enter button from the end of that line to create an empty last line then save the file
[10:52] <moetunes> fstab needs an empty last line
[10:53] <renata> moetunes, ok, and now have a look at this one http://pastebin.com/RcZuYPPd
[10:53] <moetunes> k
[10:54] <renata> moetunes, ok, so I am saving the fine now
[10:54] <moetunes> renata: yep that's fine - but add a new line at the end
[10:55] <renata> moetunes, WOW! works, thank you so much!
[10:55] <renata> moetunes, not really
[10:56] <renata> I cannot write into any partition (create a folder, eg)
[10:56] <renata> moetunes, I CAN create a folder in FAT partition, however not in ext4
[10:57] <moetunes> renata: try   sudo chown -Rv renata:renata /media/F-diskas
[10:57] <moetunes> where renata is your user name
[10:57] <renata> yes
[10:59] <renata> moetunes, works, thak you so much!
[10:59] <renata> moetunes, I would have done this alone, not even reading all that ducumentation or so :)
[11:00] <moetunes> renata: happy for you :]
[11:25] <renata> moetunes, are u here?
[11:26] <moetunes> renata: yep :]
[11:27] <renata> moetunes, I still have one question. After reboot in my ext4 directory I have a "lostnfound' catalog and I do not have any writing permissions there. What might be the problem??
[11:28] <moetunes> renata: it is not a prob - that is a system file - it is always not user writable
[11:29] <renata> moetunes, but why should I have this in my data directory? And yes, I cannot write not even in the lost-found catalog, I have no permissions in whole partition
[11:30] <moetunes> mine never have anything in it
[11:31] <moetunes> renata: the one you chowned has no writable permission for you?
[11:31] <renata> moetunes, yes, that's right
[11:32] <renata> moetunes, i can do that again...
[11:32] <moetunes> renata: try   sudo chown -Rv renata:renata /media/F-diskas - look at the output to make sure it changes owner
[11:32] <renata> moetunes, renata:renata
[11:33] <renata> I've also deleted that lost&found catalog
[11:33] <renata> I will see if it will appear next boot
[11:33] <renata> moetunes, Am I moving the right way?
[11:33] <moetunes> renata: lost&found will be recreated at every boot
[11:34] <moetunes> it doesn't do much
[11:34] <renata> moetunes, ok, so why should I have it on my data partition if it not a system partition (a rhethoric question):)
[11:34] <TheSheep> moetunes: not necessarily on every boot, just on every fsck
[11:34] <moetunes> o thnx TheSheep
[11:35] <TheSheep> it's where fsck puts lost files
[11:36] <moetunes> renata: you could   sudo chmod ugo+rw /media/F-diskas
[11:37] <renata> moetunes, done! what was that?
[11:38] <moetunes> renata: it allows users, groups and others to read, write to the partition
[11:38] <xubuntu377> hello
[11:38] <xubuntu377> everybody
[11:38] <renata> moetunes, thanks
[11:38] <moetunes> :]
[11:38] <xubuntu377> no problem
[11:38] <xubuntu377> :D
[11:38] <xubuntu377> i am a newb
[11:39] <xubuntu377> installing xubuntu with wubi
[11:39] <xubuntu377> guys
[11:39] <xubuntu377> ubuntu xubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:39] <xubuntu377> which is the best?
[11:39] <xubuntu377> or fedora?
[11:39] <moetunes> it's your choice xubuntu377
[11:39] <xubuntu377> hmm
[11:40] <xubuntu377> are there any good effects in xubuntu?
[11:40] <xubuntu377> desktop effects
[11:40] <xubuntu377> couse i like ubuntu and kubuntu for that
[11:40] <moetunes> there's a built in compositer
[11:40] <xubuntu377> which of them are u using meotunes?
[11:41] <moetunes> atm my cli server - but normally fluxbox
[11:41] <xubuntu377> k
[11:41] <xubuntu377> i think setup is over
[11:41] <xubuntu377> thanks
[11:41] <moetunes> I'm a minimalist :]
[12:07] <ferran> hi to all
[12:07] <ferran> anyone to give to me some help?
[12:08] <ferran> hello
[12:10] <TheSheep> !ask
[12:15] <ferran> hi to all
[12:15] <ferran> i'm have a little problem
[12:15] <ferran> my wifi turn off when I close the screen of my laptop
[12:49] <ferran> my wifi turn off when I close the screen of my laptop
[12:50] <Sysi> what are your powersaving settings like
[12:50] <Sysi> if it goes to susped wifi hopefully shuts down :P
[13:01] <ferran> nno
[13:01] <ferran> the laptop doesn't turn off
[13:02] <ferran> and don't appear screensaver
[13:02] <ferran> i'm configure the system to do nothing when I close the screen
[13:02] <ferran> the session continues opens, but wifi turn off
[14:10] <bris> hi
[15:04] <on3st4b> hi ppl
[15:06] <on3st4b> i have a problem with compiz , can some1 help out ? :D
[15:06] <TheSheep> !compiz | on3st4b
[15:07] <on3st4b> maybe i didnt put i right , i have a performance issue .. i think
[15:08] <on3st4b> i run it on hd3650 mobility 512mb ram , is this gpu ok for compiz ?
[15:10] <TheSheep> ask on #compiz
[15:10] <TheSheep> we really don't know
[15:17] <ochosi> on3st4b, the card is ok, it depends on the driver you use
[15:17] <ochosi> but since i don't have ati anymore i couldn't tell you
[15:17] <ochosi> some say the open driver is better for compiz, but worse for gaming
[15:18] <ochosi> on3st4b, you'll have to try to find out yourself
[15:39] <bcgrown> anyone managed to connect to an LTSP server from xubuntu lucid?
[16:49] <arthurjohnson> Sweet, I got my daughter's iPod Touch working under gtkpod!
[16:51] <arthurjohnson> To clarify, over USB, the iPod is NOT jailbroken
[16:52] <arthurjohnson> http://is.gd/c1q1S and http://is.gd/c1q3i is the guides I used to get USB iPod syncing working in Lucid
[17:11] <on3st4b> hey any1 can recomend a good torrent client
[17:11] <on3st4b> something like utorrent for windows maybe
[17:13] <rob79> i use qbittorrent
[17:15] <on3st4b> it looks nice :D
[17:16] <on3st4b> ill try it out , i use the default client and its quite  crappy
[17:16] <Prajwal> i believed that xubuntu is lighter than ubuntu but xubuntu is very slower compared to ubuntu
[17:17] <Prajwal> when this new version 10.04 is concerned
[17:17] <Prajwal> even the boot time is very high
[17:19] <on3st4b> any1 using a laptop here ?
[17:19] <rob79> here
[17:20] <on3st4b> it seems my cpu is constanly running at full speed
[17:20] <on3st4b> and its getting hot :S
[17:20] <residentgrey> open a terminal and type top
[17:20] <rob79> im on ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop
[17:21] <on3st4b> ok, what am i looking for ?
[17:21] <residentgrey> it shows what applications are running your cpu so much
[17:21] <residentgrey> probably firefox lol
[17:22] <on3st4b> actually its root > 100%
[17:22] <residentgrey> ouch
[17:22] <on3st4b> i have firefox emesene and bittorent client running + compiz
[17:22] <on3st4b> maybe its compiz ?
[17:23] <residentgrey> what's compiz?
[17:23] <on3st4b> its > root > 100% > backend ..
[17:23] <on3st4b> em .. 3d effects for the desktop
[17:23] <residentgrey> last cell i believe is the program
[17:24] <rob79> row command ^^
[17:24] <on3st4b> under the command right ?
[17:24] <on3st4b> ok it says backend !
[17:24] <on3st4b> whats that ?
[17:25] <residentgrey> hell if I know
[17:26] <on3st4b> :D
[17:26] <rob79> sysemtest running ?
[17:26] <residentgrey> try killing all those apps
[17:26] <on3st4b> how do i kill it :S
[17:26] <rob79> ok cups
[17:26] <rob79> or cups
[17:27] <rob79> kill
[17:27] <rob79> and the pid
[17:27] <residentgrey> that is supplied by top
[17:27] <rob79> or kill -9 ^^
[17:27] <residentgrey> that's just evil
[17:28] <Prajwal> does any one even feel that ubuntu is faster and lighter than xubuntu or is it just with me
[17:29] <on3st4b> not permited !
[17:29] <residentgrey> just kill firefox and compiz
[17:30] <charlie-tca__> Prajwal: Xubuntu is faster and lighter on all 5 of my systems
[17:30] <on3st4b> no luck :S
[17:30] <on3st4b> ill try a reboot
[17:30] <S0210> I have a problem with the "Places" icon under my recently upgraded Xubuntu 10.4. If I reopen, edit and save an existing .gnumeric file then it does not appear in the "last docs list" of the Places menu... Is there a way to see what's going on? Does it list only the new docs? Any tips what to check?
[17:30] <Prajwal> charlie-tca__:  even i had the same experience with earlier versions
[17:30] <charlie-tca__> Prajwal: did you do a Xubuntu installation with the defaults?
[17:31] <Prajwal> yes charlie-tca__
[17:31] <charlie-tca__> It probably has to do with what applications you are adding/using
[17:31] <Prajwal> aah no, even with no programs running or fresh installation i get it slow
[17:32] <Prajwal> the reason i use xubuntu rather than any other is becoz of the boot speed
[17:32] <Prajwal> its more than 2mins for the newer version
[17:32] <Prajwal> while it was a matter of 20secs for the earlier 9.10
[17:36] <on3st4b> reboot seems to have work
[17:37] <residentgrey> ok
[17:44] <S0210> What to check if a recently modified (and saved) .gnumeric file is missing from the last documents list of Places?
[17:55] <S0210> Any idea?
[18:02] <charlie-tca__> S0210: I think that is a bug, but I can't remember the number right now
[18:03] <charlie-tca__> Prajwal: so, are you talking about the startup time or actual use ?
[18:03] <Prajwal> startup time
[18:03] <charlie-tca__> and is that for an installed Xubuntu or a usb drive/live cd type use?
[18:04] <Prajwal> installed
[18:05] <Prajwal> i have a 2GB Ram
[18:05] <charlie-tca__> That may be caused by the video card. some of the cards are slower now on startup.
[18:05] <Prajwal> and Nvidia 9600 GT 1 GB graphic card
[18:06] <Prajwal> charlie-tca__:  everything was just fast and normal until i installed 10.04
[18:06] <Prajwal> 9.01 was very fast
[18:06] <Prajwal> 9.10*
[18:31] <charlie-tca__> Hmm, I don't know why it wouldn't be just as fast now. My systems certainly are.
[18:33] <Prajwal> i guess i need a fresh installation then
[18:33] <Prajwal> checked the md5 of iso its correct
[18:49] <dahaic> hu, right now, I got a little problem - windows dont want to unminimize, is it known issue? [as I have minimized firefox, I am asking here :D]
[18:49] <charlie-tca__> As in, they go to the bottom panel and won't come back?
[18:50] <dahaic> yeah, exactly
[18:50] <charlie-tca__> Never heard of it before
[18:51] <dahaic> hmm, I hope it is one time issue :)
[18:51] <charlie-tca__> me too
[18:51] <dahaic> [one day old upgrade to lucid, so well... that would be quite bad for me, if it is a bug]
[18:52] <charlie-tca__>  Bad for everybody, but I can't reproduce it here
[18:53] <dahaic> I will write down what i did, and if it happen again, with some correlation, then I will report it
[18:53] <charlie-tca__> good idea
[18:57] <nasrullah> hi
[18:57] <nasrullah> i cannot open zekr
[18:59] <nasrullah> your help pls for zekr
[18:59] <charlie-tca__> I would like to say the hp laserjet 3200 I was given works in xubuntu just by plugging it in
[18:59] <charlie-tca__> nasrullah: what is zekr?
[19:00] <nasrullah> it is a Quran package
[19:00] <nasrullah> i downloaded from the repository but cannot open it
[19:01] <charlie-tca__> It did install without errors?
[19:01] <nasrullah> in karmic it was working once i upgraded to lucid it fails
[19:01] <nasrullah> yes
[19:02] <dahaic> well, restart of xfce [log out and log in] worked, but file "bug" is on the desktop, waiting for the return of the ugly :P
[19:04] <nasrullah> ok
[19:11] <charlie-tca__> dahaic: maybe a one time glitch... (at least we hope so)
[19:15] <dahaic> hmm
[19:15] <dahaic> I am afraid that I reproduced it...
[19:16] <dahaic> automatic receive of file from my cellphone, via bluetooth
[19:16] <charlie-tca__> make sure you tell which theme it is, if not the default, in the report
[19:19] <dahaic> ah, which theme is default btw? :D I was trying different ones, and tbh didn't found the one I began with
[19:19] <dahaic> so now, I am using Albatross
[19:19] <nasrullah> icasa
[19:20] <nasrullah> i cannot open picasa
[19:21] <charlie-tca__> dahaic: Albatross is default
[19:28] <dahaic> charlie-tca__: sorry for being noob in this, but can you help me with a bug report? I would appreciate hint, where should I put it [has xubuntu its own bugtracker, or should I use ubuntu-bug xfce?]
[19:29] <dahaic> or any other app?
[19:29] <charlie-tca__> Is it all apps that are failing?
[19:30] <charlie-tca__> You could use 'ubuntu-bug xfce4-session' in a terminal to file the bug
[19:30] <dahaic> well, its just that apps are stuck in task list, if I am able to open them, they work just fine
[19:31] <charlie-tca__> It will put in the 'xfce4-session' package, which should be right
[19:31] <dahaic> but as I wrote - its due to bluetooth receive of file
[19:31] <charlie-tca__> It's only because of bluetooth then?
[19:32] <dahaic> wait a sec, I will try to send more files [I didn't tried that]
[19:32] <charlie-tca__> use 'ubuntu-bug bluez' then
[20:10] <S0210> How can I pluseaudio volume control to hotkeys? (I mean something like command "amixer set Master 10%- -q"...)
[20:21] <S0210> Storno.
[20:59] <_Techie_> [_AWAY_] heading into town, rollerblades FTW
[21:01] <TheSheep> _Techie_: we are not interested
[21:14] <rydian> Er, is this a correct place to ask for help with something?
[21:15] <ooze> rydian: sure
[21:16] <ooze> if someone dosnt reply right away.. its usually good to wait around
[21:16] <rydian> Thank you.
[21:26] <slow-motion> hi
[21:34] <fool__> hey guys i'm using "elementary xubuntu" icon theme, everything's working fine except for the battery icons: it is still the default gnome's and it won't update battery % if i hover the mouse over it. i'm on 10.04. suggestions ?
[22:04] <ooze> anyone know how I can get xubuntu to stop opening all the other windows I had open before
[22:04] <knome> ooze, on login? close all windows, and on logout, select "save session"
[22:04] <knome> ooze, then login again and on next logout, uncheck the box
[22:05] <ooze> hrmm ok. Ill try this
[22:05] <ooze> thanks knome..
[22:05] <ooze> Im looking for a way to permanently modify this via the config files
[22:05] <ooze> as Im building a bunch of production machines with xubuntu and I want them all to behave in this manner
[22:06] <knome> ooze, windows should not pop up in the first place if you don't save such a session
[22:06] <ooze> then there is some bug.. as no session has been saved.. this occured on a fresh xubuntu build after using the restart button
[22:07] <knome> ooze, when you used the restart button, did you have windows open?
[22:07] <ooze> yes
[22:07] <knome> then it's not a bug
[22:07] <knome> you chose the session to be saved.
[22:07] <knome> (that's the default)
[22:07] <ooze> oh?
[22:07] <ooze> gotcha
[22:08] <ooze> need to find the config file where this default is set
[22:08] <knome> maybe ask #xfce, i don't know where that is
[22:08] <mr_pouit> by cmdline, you can probably change that with: xfconf-query -c xfce4-session -p /general/SaveOnExit -s false
[22:08] <knome> mr_pouit, oh :P
[22:09] <mr_pouit> and otherwise, the config files are .config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml, /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml and /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml
[22:09] <mr_pouit> knome: eh :P
[22:10] <knome> aye sir
[22:11] <ooze> mr_pouit , knome rock!
[22:11] <ooze> =D
[22:13] <ooze> mr_pouit: do you think changing this may also cause the panel to retain its defaults,   I have also been running into a issue after reboots where the menu button is missing.. I assume this is caused by the panel crashing on logout or something and the sessing getting saved with out the button
[22:15] <ooze> at the momment Im going the route of making the .config/xfce4/panel files read only.. so even if they are deleted they re-appear next boot
[22:15] <mr_pouit> it should be fine
[22:54] <ferran> hi to all
[22:59] <Aquina> 'lo
[23:02] <rydian> I'm using xubuntu 10.04 (fresh wubi install as of a few days ago), and I've got terrible sound latency (about one second) in some programs.  Flash in both firefox and chrome (including youtube videos) and ZSNES (SNES emulator) are two big offenders, yet videos played in the default "movie player" and VLC play with no delay.  It's an eMachines T2899 desktop, FIC AU31 motherboard, nForce2 chipset, AC97 sound (integrated).  I've been told it c
[23:02] <rydian> ould be an issue with the ALSA buffer size, or pulseaudio introducing latency... but I've no clue how to go about fixing it. ^^;
[23:18] <on3st4b> can some1 kind tell me what the custom kernel ? and whats the benefits of making one ? :D
[23:20] <knome> on3st4b, if you don't know what the benefits are, i think it's better not to build one
[23:32] <Aquina> It maybe sounds stupid but I need some help with /etc/smartd.conf. I read the mans (man smartd / smartd --help / man smartctl) and also checket the web, but I'm a bit overwhelmed.