[04:54] <IDWMaster> How do I install 10.10?
[04:56] <IDWMaster> How do I install Ubuntu 10.10 and upgrade from 10.04?
[05:09] <amikrop> Where can I find Ambiance's folder/places icons?
[07:13] <bbordwell> Hello, I keep two installs of Ubuntu going at the same time to help me in triaging bugs, but now that lucid is final they are both the same. How do I upgrade this partition to maverick?
[07:15] <rww> bbordwell: There's no update tool yet, so change /etc/apt/sources.list to point to Maverick sources, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[07:15] <rww> caveat: I don't know whether maverick is actually a sane idea right now, but if it is, that's how you'd do it
[07:16] <bbordwell> rww, haha yes I know, It is on a seperate partition for testing purposes only
[07:17] <bbordwell> rww, so just change everywhere it says lucid to maverick?
[07:18] <rww> bbordwell: yup. if you have PPAs or other third-party repositories, or your mirror is out of date, they may not work yet.
[07:18] <ddecator> has anything really even changed yet?
[07:18] <ddecator> doesn't seem like much would change before UDS
[07:18] <rww> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/maverick-changes/2010-May/thread.html
[07:19] <ddecator> touche
[07:19] <bbordwell> rww, thank you
[08:46] <BUGabundo_remote> yes,yes, Sleep is overrated
[09:21] <BUGabundo_remote> rt @popey: Mark proposes that 10.10 is released on Sunday 10th October 2010. Where 101010 = 42 = Meaning of Life / Universe / Everything!
[09:21] <BUGabundo_remote> heck aint that a bit early for gnome cycle?
[09:21] <red2kic> Oh wow!
[09:21] <red2kic> #ubuntu+1 opens again!
[09:22] <rww> In before endless complains about proprietary drives.
[09:22] <rww> drivers **
[09:22] <rww> BUGabundo_remote: when's GNOME coming out this time?
[09:22] <red2kic> Quickly! BUG, hand me the Maverick! ^_^
[09:26]  * BUGabundo_remote passes along an updated sources.list to red2kic
[09:29] <nikolam> :)
[11:27] <BUGabundo_remote> eheh Light... boot in 7 secs... browsing the web in 10...
[11:27] <BUGabundo_remote> heck I can't make FF open in under 10 secs :)
[11:29] <BUGabundo_remote> unity would work for me
[11:30] <red2kic> BUGabundo_remote: With great power there must also come — great responsibility!
[11:30] <BUGabundo_remote> all I use 98% of the time on my laptop is chromium and pidgin
[11:30] <BUGabundo_remote> and music.... too...via stream
[11:32] <BUGabundo_remote> no, really
[11:32] <BUGabundo_remote> this is why I want a tablet running andoid on it
[11:32] <BUGabundo_remote> so I can have _instant_ ON
[11:33] <BUGabundo_remote> with my apps, right there
[11:33] <BUGabundo_remote> can't see this with a netbook ubuntu tablet :(
[11:34]  * BUGabundo_remote slaps the room
[11:34] <BUGabundo_remote> you guys are toooo quiet today
[11:34] <red2kic> It's loud in #ubuntu
[11:36] <BUGabundo_remote> too load for my brain
[11:37] <arand> Some are never happy it seems... Anyhow, are there any current gotchas will hopping over to mm?
[11:37] <arand> Apart from the obvious?
[11:41] <BUGabundo_remote> arand: mm?
[11:42] <arand> MaverickMerkaat, anyone? :þ
[11:42] <BUGabundo_remote> ahhhhhhh
[11:43]  * BUGabundo_remote is on slowwwww morning
[11:43] <BUGabundo_remote> I do like the 10.10 on 10.10.10. :D
[11:43]  * BUGabundo_remote waits for binary joke
[11:44] <BUGabundo_remote> but I do wonder if canonical team can make the real fast boot
[11:44] <BUGabundo_remote> and work with some OEM to provide a tablet
[11:44] <joaopinto> hi
[11:44] <BUGabundo_remote> that would be awesome
[11:44] <BUGabundo_remote> ola joaopinto
[11:44] <joaopinto> bom dia BUGabundo_remote
[11:44] <arand> hoy
[11:44] <BUGabundo_remote> but is coming late
[11:44] <BUGabundo_remote> should have been here 6 months ago
[11:44] <joaopinto> BUGabundo_remote, looking for an ipad clone :P ?
[11:45] <BUGabundo_remote> and with ARM business under atack
[11:45] <BUGabundo_remote> I'm not sure what CPUs will be available for this kind of devices
[11:45] <BUGabundo_remote> joaopinto: alread seen one
[11:45] <BUGabundo_remote> http://p.bugabundo.net/ipad-knockoff-upgraded-with-android-21-and-la
[11:46]  * arand makes a new install and instantly wants to kick whomever came up with system bell response in terminal, especially the ubuntu replacement, brrr...
[11:47] <BUGabundo_remote> lol
[11:50] <arand> Well I guess it's at lest better than before when pcspkr blaste full volume through headphones, some laptop manufacturers must not think like normal people..
[12:04] <BUGabundo_remote> one of the things that makes me confusion
[12:04] <BUGabundo_remote> and I hope someone on the design team eventually gets
[12:04] <BUGabundo_remote> left sided menus/bars instead of top/bottom makes me move my mouse much more
[12:40] <zniavre> !wacom
[13:14] <cwillu_at_work> kicking me out of #ubuntu+1 like that... :p
[13:20] <BUGabundo_remote> hey hey hey... welcome back cwillu_at_work akgraner
[13:21]  * cwillu_at_work huggles
[13:21] <BUGabundo_remote> how are you both, my precious friends
[13:21] <BUGabundo_remote> ?
[13:21] <cwillu_at_work> I'm exhausted
[13:21] <cwillu_at_work> but I've found new bugs :)
[13:22] <cwillu_at_work> cups-pdf will cause all sorts of hilarity if you point it at /tmp, for instance
[13:22]  * yofel sighs
[13:23] <cwillu_at_work> and it mishandles its pathnames internally, and so nearly-silently fails to set permissions and ownership on the files and folders it creates if the path contains spaces or other characters that are normally quoted on the shell
[13:23] <yofel> not more bugs...
[13:23] <cwillu_at_work> I'm planning on patching those two myself, the moment I have a couple hours to sleep :p
[13:23] <cwillu_at_work> those aren't maverick specific though
[13:23] <yofel> I wanted to  do some bugsquad work before but already lost my motivation after looking at 2 bugs without packages...
[13:24] <cwillu_at_work> ya, I'm going to try to spend more time filing bugs with fixes attached this time around
[13:24] <cwillu_at_work> seems like it'd be a better use of my time
[13:24] <yofel> heh, I'm not talking about your bugs :P, everyone in here knows how to file high quality bugs
[13:24] <cwillu_at_work> :p
[13:24] <patdk-wk> where do I file to get ride of my bugs?
[13:24] <yofel> what get's exhausting are all those bugs that tell nothing...
[13:25] <cwillu_at_work> I know, but even then, a bug isn't a fix :)
[13:25] <patdk-wk> they are all over my kitchen :(
[13:25] <yofel> lol
[13:25] <cwillu_at_work> patdk-wk, file it upstream
[13:25] <yofel> rofl
[13:25] <patdk-wk> hehe
[13:26] <cwillu_at_work> okay, so how do I read a diff again?
[13:27] <cwillu_at_work> the +'s are the code that I want, but which is broken
[13:27] <cwillu_at_work> and the -'s are the code I don't want, but works fine
[13:27] <cwillu_at_work> right?
[13:27] <yofel> + means added - removed
[13:28] <cwillu_at_work> you hear that sound?  that's the sound of patdk-wk's bugs.  Now, do you hear that faint whistling behind the buzzing of his bugs?  _That's_ the sound of my joke flying over your head :D
[13:29] <cwillu_at_work> sorry, I get grumpy when I haven't slept in a while
[13:31] <arand> Speaking of diffs, is there an easy way to look at what changed _insid_ a line, when you've got +somelongline -somelongsline is there an easy way to single out the "s" in there, from a diff?
[13:32] <cwillu_at_work> arand, I think so, but I can't think of the name offhand
[13:32] <cwillu_at_work> bit of a special purpose thing
[13:54] <BUGabundo_remote> "bugs without packages..."
[13:54] <BUGabundo_remote> yofel: you day dreaming ?
[13:55] <yofel> well, I meant http://u.nu/5rgh9 - but the way I said it does sound like day draming ^^
[13:56] <BUGabundo_remote> cwillu_at_work: overworking again?
[13:56] <yofel> *dreaming
[13:56] <cwillu_at_work> grumble grumble :p
[13:56] <BUGabundo_remote> doing another batch of 72h straight?
[13:56] <cwillu_at_work> no, just 20 hours right now
[13:56] <BUGabundo_remote> bah
[13:56] <cwillu_at_work> but I've got a bad feeling that my boss will want to bring me along on this site visit
[13:57] <cwillu_at_work> him:  "... and this is our genius programmer"  me:  "grwahh?"  customer: "!!??"
[13:58] <BUGabundo_remote> LOL
[13:58] <BUGabundo_remote> "genius"
[13:59] <BUGabundo_remote> are you sure he was refering to you ?
[13:59] <cwillu_at_work> yes.
[13:59] <cwillu_at_work> however
[13:59] <cwillu_at_work> up until a year ago, they advertised "programming and application development", thinking that that referred to the configuration of their hardware
[13:59] <cwillu_at_work> as opposed to, you know, writing programs
[14:01] <cwillu_at_work> made for some interesting conversations :p
[14:01] <BUGabundo_remote> LOLOL
[14:01] <BUGabundo_remote> I bet
[14:02]  * cwillu_at_work kicks off a new rootfs image build
[14:02] <cwillu_at_work> in other news, zippy2 expansions boards make beagles even more fun to play with :)
[14:09]  * cwillu_at_work cancels the image build, pushes the updated libraries to the build-server's git repo, and starts the image build again, muttering the whole time
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:37] <DingGGu> boot window :)
[16:03] <BUGabundo_remote> "Given the requirement to customise the Light versions for specific hardware, there won’t be a general-purpose downloadable image of Ubuntu Light on ubuntu.com."
[16:03] <BUGabundo_remote> booo
[16:05] <BUGabundo_remote> anyone knows how safe, or how incredibly stupid would be to put unity PPA onto my laptop?
[16:06] <BUGabundo_remote> https://edge.launchpad.net/~canonical-dx-team/+archive/une
[16:06] <shadeslayer> BUGabundo_remote: ive tried it
[16:06] <shadeslayer> BUGabundo_remote: all i get is a white screen in lucid
[16:06] <BUGabundo_remote> and?
[16:06] <BUGabundo_remote> ahah
[16:06] <BUGabundo_remote> lol
[16:06] <shadeslayer> after logging in... but i can start unity from gnome
[16:06] <BUGabundo_remote> we will have to ping didrocks for it then
[16:06] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:07] <shadeslayer> BUGabundo_remote: we have a nice discussion going on this at omgubuntu.com
[16:07] <shadeslayer> its not only me,alot of people have it
[16:07] <Ian_Corne> BUGabundo_remote: i've got it running on maverick
[16:07] <Ian_Corne> works good
[16:07] <BUGabundo_remote> ohhh
[16:07] <BUGabundo_remote> so it workS?
[16:08] <Ian_Corne> yes
[16:08] <shadeslayer> BUGabundo_remote: not on lucid though
[16:08] <BUGabundo_remote> is it like ebox-standalone?
[16:08] <Ian_Corne> don't attach a 2nd screen tho ;-)
[16:08] <BUGabundo_remote> I couldn't care less abourt lucid, my mna
[16:08] <Ian_Corne> :D
[16:08] <shadeslayer> hehe :)
[16:08] <Ian_Corne> and there's only lucid ppa
[16:08] <BUGabundo_remote> not ebox... the media center thingy
[16:09] <BUGabundo_remote> FAIL :)
[16:09] <shadeslayer> Ian_Corne: oh its in the official mav archives?
[16:09] <BUGabundo_remote> maybe LP is still no open to MM repo
[16:09] <Ian_Corne> ni
[16:09] <Ian_Corne> i just use the ludic ppa shadeslayer :p
[16:09] <shadeslayer> Ian_Corne: oh :)
[16:09] <BUGabundo_remote> Ian_Corne: so you just start it over gnome?
[16:09] <BUGabundo_remote> or does it replace metacity ?
[16:09] <shadeslayer> BUGabundo_remote: it doesnt :(
[16:10] <shadeslayer> i still get the gnome panel and stuff
[16:10] <Ian_Corne> BUGabundo_remote: I start it from gdm
[16:10] <Ian_Corne> select that as the current session
[16:10] <shadeslayer> Ian_Corne: i get a white screen when i do that
[16:10] <shadeslayer> :P
[16:10] <Ian_Corne> on maverick?
[16:10] <shadeslayer> lucid
[16:11] <Pici> shadeslayer: Lucid support is in #ubuntu
[16:11] <BUGabundo_remote> let me update the repos
[16:11] <BUGabundo_remote> and install it
[16:11] <Ian_Corne> :p
[16:11] <BUGabundo_remote> Pici: you got him wrong
[16:11] <Pici> BUGabundo_remote: perhaps
[16:11] <Ian_Corne> It looks great on my netbook tho
[16:11] <BUGabundo_remote> we are talking about unity
[16:11] <shadeslayer> Pici: you just took that out of context :P
[16:11] <Pici> shadeslayer: yep :)
[16:11] <Ian_Corne> but the left bar could use some preference options
[16:11] <Ian_Corne> to scale it and such
[16:11] <BUGabundo_remote> sahaa
[16:11] <shadeslayer> Ian_Corne: seriously
[16:11] <BUGabundo_remote> pici still on auto bot :)
[16:11] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[16:12] <BUGabundo_remote> Ian_Corne: what's the meta package I need?
[16:12] <BUGabundo_remote> unity?
[16:12] <shadeslayer> BUGabundo_remote: unity
[16:12] <Pici> I'm not used to seeing this channel this active right after it opens :)
[16:12] <shadeslayer> yep
[16:12] <shadeslayer> Pici: hehe..
[16:12] <BUGabundo_remote> Pici: and it took TOOOO long to open
[16:12] <BUGabundo_remote> should have been a week sooner
[16:13] <Pici> BUGabundo_remote: tell that to the toolchain for failing to build so many times.
[16:13]  * patdk-wk spanks the toolchain
[16:13] <shadeslayer> ive never really understood what a toolchain is
[16:14] <patdk-wk> gcc, ld, .... all the stuff you need to build x, y, and z :)
[16:14] <shadeslayer> ah... so basically build-essential
[16:14] <patdk-wk> ya
[16:15] <shadeslayer> btw does ubuntu sync new packages with debian till we hit archive freeze?
[16:15] <BUGabundo_remote> http://identi.ca/group/unity
[16:15] <BUGabundo_remote> there :)
[16:16] <BUGabundo_remote> now I need an avatar
[16:17] <patdk-wk> what is it with everyone needing blue people these days?
[16:18] <BUGabundo_remote> blue?
[16:18] <patdk-wk> the movie :)
[16:19] <BUGabundo_remote> I saw it
[16:19] <BUGabundo_remote> but I don't follow your reasoning
[16:19] <patdk-wk> now I need an avatar (a blue person from pandora)
[16:19]  * patdk-wk thinks he is running this into the ground
[16:20] <shadeslayer> is there a graphical way to check how much ill have to download as upgrades?
[16:20] <Ian_Corne> shadeslayer: yes update-manager informs you of that
[16:21] <shadeslayer> Ian_Corne: and it depends on my mirror?
[16:22] <BUGabundo_remote> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[16:22] <BUGabundo_remote>   indicator-datetime{a} libclutk-0.3-0{a} libdbusmodel0{a} libgee2{a} libgirepository1.0-0{a} liblauncher-0.3-0{a} libmutter-private0{a} libunity-misc0{a} libwncksync0{a} mutter{a} mutter-common{a}
[16:22] <BUGabundo_remote>   ubuntu-netbook-unity-default-settings{a} unity unity-asset-pool{a} wncksyncdaemon{a}
[16:22] <BUGabundo_remote> 0 packages upgraded, 15 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
[16:22] <BUGabundo_remote> Need to get 3,063kB of archives. After unpacking 13.0MB will be used.
[16:22] <patdk-wk> shadeslayer, only what packages need upgrading are controlled by the mirror
[16:22] <patdk-wk> depending on how up-to-date the mirror is
[16:22] <shadeslayer> gah.... my mirror is one week behind \o.
[16:23] <shadeslayer> \o/
[16:23] <BUGabundo_remote> lol
[16:23] <BUGabundo_remote> that's why I have 2 or 3 mirrors in my sources.list
[16:23] <BUGabundo_remote> including MAIN in the last option
[16:23] <jpds> NOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
[16:23]  * BUGabundo_remote RUNSSSSS
[16:24]  * BUGabundo_remote runs FASTER
[16:24]  * BUGabundo_remote looks around for jpds
[16:24] <BUGabundo_remote> what did I do wrong this time!?
[16:24] <BUGabundo_remote> $ pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list   http://paste.ubuntu.com/431165/
[16:25] <jpds> shadeslayer: Which mirror are you using?
[16:25] <jpds> BUGabundo_remote: The fact that you're still using the main ones.
[16:25] <shadeslayer> jpds: official indian mirror
[16:26] <shadeslayer> jpds: which is this one : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ubuntuarchive.hnsdc.com-archive
[16:26] <Ian_Corne> i'm using gaosu
[16:26]  * patdk-wk just uses us.archive.ubuntu.com
[16:26] <Ian_Corne> gaosu is an awesome mirror!
[16:26] <BUGabundo_remote> jpds: I *always* used main !
[16:26] <jpds> shadeslayer: Oh my god, they are a week behing.
[16:26] <shadeslayer> BUGabundo_remote: i switched from fearing bandwidth problems with it
[16:26] <shadeslayer> jpds: yeah :(
[16:26] <BUGabundo_remote> which one should I ?
[16:27] <Ian_Corne> let the tool select it?
[16:27] <Ian_Corne> or gaosu.rave.org
[16:27] <BUGabundo_remote> which tool?
[16:27] <Ian_Corne> which is just awesome!
[16:27] <jpds> Ian_Corne: You at UDS?
[16:27] <BUGabundo_remote> I do it by hand in sources.list
[16:27] <Ian_Corne> jpds: no, I didn't have time for it this week :(
[16:28] <Ian_Corne> BUGabundo_remote: software sources in System -> Admin ->
[16:28] <jpds> Ian_Corne: Oh, that's a shame.
[16:28] <BUGabundo_remote> GUI??? ewwwww
[16:28] <Ian_Corne> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/infogroep-archive
[16:29] <Ian_Corne> jpds: I recalled asking if they were being taped
[16:29] <jpds> Ian_Corne: Some sessions are videos.
[16:29] <jpds> videod*
[16:30] <BUGabundo_remote> you just invented a word
[16:30] <Ian_Corne> weird that 32 bit is more behind then 64 bit :p
[16:31] <Ian_Corne> comon Jeeves_ ! :p
[16:36] <shadeslayer> jpds: heh.. 66 MB of updates
[16:44] <gnomefreak> be cafeful upgrading dist* will remove some helpful packages
[16:45] <gnomefreak> but i also dont advise you upgrade anyway its safer to run a chroot. i have ~6 installs so 1 down dont hurt me
[16:47] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[16:51] <shadeslayer> weird... i have hal in 10.04.... thats like a bug :P
[16:58] <gnomefreak> shadesla1er: no it isnt
[16:58] <gnomefreak> try removing it :)
[16:58] <shadeslayer> gnomefreak: really?
[16:58] <gnomefreak> i thought some things werent de halified
[16:58] <shadeslayer> mmm
[16:59] <gnomefreak> remove it see what it does. i dont want to screw up more than i already did yet
[16:59] <shadeslayer> gnomefreak: did you try removing it?
[16:59] <shadeslayer> i have only one machine :P
[17:00] <gnomefreak> shadeslayer: no i havent but i can in a minute or 2
[17:00] <shadeslayer> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/431186/
[17:01] <gnomefreak> now you see why. but i dont have *-desktop packages anymore and i cant fix it yet
[17:02] <gnomefreak> thoggen wants to leave too
[17:02] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:02] <gnomefreak> i would wait for UDS to end since its not urgent
[17:03] <shadeslayer> yeah :)
[17:03] <gnomefreak> shadeslayer: might i suggest finishing your upgrade :)
[17:03] <shadeslayer> hehe.. yeah im upgrading right now :)
[17:03] <shadeslayer> 10 more mins
[17:03] <gnomefreak> update-notifier has screwed me up and i dont even want it :(
[17:04] <shadeslayer> gnomefreak: heh..weird thing is removing hal doesnt remove libhal :P
[17:05] <gnomefreak> shadeslayer: some apps still use hal. not sure why but i havent tried since i need it atm maybe we can drop it this cycle
[17:06] <shadeslayer> gnomefreak: yeah probably.. 10.10 will probably not have hal by default
[17:07] <gnomefreak> shadeslayer: this is why it hasnt been dropped yet http://paste.ubuntu.com/431188/
[17:07] <shadeslayer> hehe :)
[17:07] <Pici> Some people have complained that Ubuntu fails to boot fully if they remove HAL.
[17:07] <gnomefreak> it was removed from ubuntu-desktop, everyone else is moving slow
[17:08] <shadeslayer> gnomefreak: kubuntu-desktop still has a dep on it
[17:08] <gnomefreak> laptop-mode-tools would be a good reason
[17:08] <gnomefreak> shadeslayer: all *-desktop does except ubuntu-desktop
[17:08] <gnomefreak> atleast the major ones
[17:09] <gnomefreak> Pici: the laptop and the gnome-power-manager could caus ethat
[17:09] <shadeslayer> jpds: will you contact the mirror admin or should i?
[17:11] <jpds> shadeslayer: It would be better if you as an affected user did, or he'll think I'm nagging him. ;)
[17:11] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:12] <BUGabundo_remote> jpds: but you are paid to nag
[17:12] <jpds> BUGabundo_remote: No.
[17:12] <Ken8521> so any major isssues w/ Maverick yet?
[17:13] <BUGabundo_remote> none
[17:13] <BUGabundo_remote> other then the usual broken depencices
[17:13] <Ian_Corne> I've got irb and ruby atm being broken :p
[17:14] <shadeslayer> beh.. do-release-upgrade --devel-release  --check-dist-upgrade-only
[17:14] <shadeslayer> does nothing
[17:15] <kklimonda> upgrades will be enabled after alpha1 is released
[17:15] <shadeslayer> kklimonda: :(
[17:15] <kklimonda> till then you can just change sources.list entries and do aptitude dist-upgrade
[17:15] <shadeslayer> kklimonda: so i have to manually replace sources?
[17:15] <shadeslayer> ohk
[17:15] <BUGabundo_remote> shadeslayer: sed your sources
[17:16] <BUGabundo_remote> or just use mine :)
[17:16] <BUGabundo_remote> $ pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list   http://paste.ubuntu.com/431165/
[17:16] <Ken8521> what's this "new feature" tats n the right side, where the buttons used to be?
[17:16] <shadeslayer> im replacing :P
[17:18] <BUGabundo_remote> Ken8521: Unity
[17:19] <Ken8521> BUGabundo_remote, whats that?
[17:20] <BUGabundo_remote> Ken8521: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/383
[17:24] <Ken8521> gnn
[17:24] <BUGabundo_remote> ??
[17:24] <shadeslayer> cnn?
[17:24] <Ken8521> *hmm...lol
[17:24] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:25] <shadeslayer> theres a OS in a bollywood pic called unity :P
[17:25] <shadeslayer> you can run software from debian,suse,win,mac.. etc all at once
[17:27] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/431197/
[17:29] <cwillu> BUGabundo_remote, they let me go home! \o/
[17:30] <BUGabundo_remote> \W/
[17:33] <cwillu> and my new expensive sd card hasn't blown up after seventy thousand writes to the same file :)
[17:33] <cwillu> (with a sync after each write)
[17:33] <cwillu> (none of this caching-invalidating-my-tests nonsense)
[17:35] <metalf88011> where can I find good documentation on which graphics cards have good open source drivers?
[17:37] <BUGabundo_remote> eheh
[17:37] <BUGabundo_remote> good luck
[17:37] <BUGabundo_remote> the closest I came to, was to ask in #ubuntu-x which drivers weree known to support what
[17:38] <BUGabundo_remote> I _tried_ to make a wiki page
[17:38] <BUGabundo_remote> but then realized how volatil that info is during a devel release
[17:40] <metalf88011> BUGabundo_remote ok thanks
[17:42] <cwillu> metalf88011, ati and intel are the best bets;  generally support only improves with time
[17:43] <cwillu> if you don't need 3d support, nouveaux (open nvidia driver) is becoming usable
[17:43] <cwillu> http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon is generally fairly up to date
[17:44] <cwillu> and we track it fairly closely;  even though our default drivers don't get massively updated during the lifetime of a release, there's a couple different ppa's which have more recent builds from upstream, right up to a nightly build
[17:46]  * patdk-wk has liked the intel ones
[17:46] <patdk-wk> little annoying sometimes to get the res you want, but generally works good
[17:46] <cwillu> res hasn't been an issue since xrandr 1.2, aside from some detection issues
[17:46] <cwillu> nothing like the old days where you needed to hack the bios to set a non-standard res :)
[17:47] <metalf88011> cwillu thank you I'll check that out
[17:57] <mikebeecham> hi guys...maybe not the right room, but let's give it a go.  I installed Kubuntu alongside Gnome recently, but didnt like it.  I uninstalled Kubuntu completely, but it's left my pointer themes looks VERY bad...is there anyway I can reinstall the pointer themes
[18:02] <BUGabundo_remote> $home.i(go);
[18:15] <joaopinto> mikebeecham, not the right room, #ubuntu for support
[18:16] <mikebeecham> joaopinto: thanks
[18:31] <ratcheer> Hi, everybody. I just got my testing partition upgraded to 10.10. For now, I am sticking with the nouveau driver. Man, MM boots and gets the desktop up fast!
[18:35] <ratcheer> MM ended up with three broken packages and aptitude removed them. Two of them were gnome-desktop and tomboy, I don't remember the other one. But, everything seems to work fine.
[18:40] <gnomefreak> update-notifier?
[19:06] <mandara> when will be the best time to upgrade to Maverick? Alpha1?
[19:13] <ratcheer> mandara: I would not upgrade my main system that I use until at least RC. Upgrade into a testing partition if you just want to play around or test MM.
[19:13] <Ian_Corne> And don't share /home
[19:17] <mandara> ratcheer, I am ok with occasionaly crashing. broke my system few times with nvidia driver but always managed to fix it somehow
[19:17] <Ian_Corne> well, there's not much new atm
[19:18] <Ian_Corne> just the regular dependecy problems
[19:18] <mandara> of course I always make backup before.
[19:18] <ratcheer> mandara: Ok,whatever floats your boat. Just be warned.
[19:20] <mandara> Ian_Corne, yup, nothing new. Will wait probably for Alpha1
[19:20] <Ian_Corne> If you're eager to help, you can enable lucid-proposed I think
[19:21] <Ian_Corne> and that'll help the current fixed
[19:21] <mandara> have that enabled already
[19:22] <Ian_Corne> ok :)
[20:24] <acicula> are there daily live iso's yet? current still points to 10.04 lts release iso's of 29th april. testdrive fetches nonexisting maverick daily live's
[20:31] <gnomefreak> acicula: no not yet most liklely not until after UDS
[20:45] <acicula> ah ok, thanx
[23:24] <BUGabundo> (2010-05-10 23:23:28) fta: the dailies will build for maverick starting from now
[23:24] <BUGabundo> WOOT
[23:36] <BUGabundo> (2010-05-10 23:28:59) Sarvatt: this X mess in maverick is going to take awhile to clean up, I was merging libx11 since it has the silly klingon change but there are a ton of libs waiting to go through NEW that have to be done one at a time with the udeb changes
[23:36] <BUGabundo> (2010-05-10 23:30:02) Sarvatt: not to mention all the drivers were synced and require xserver-xorg-dev (>= 2:1.7.6.901) that needs merging too
[23:38] <kklimonda> heh, welcome to the new cyclr
[23:39] <Sarvatt> i think you read into what I said a bit much, nothings published so its not going to break anything man :D
[23:39] <BUGabundo> great
[23:39] <kklimonda> Sarvatt: hey, new development cycle is all about breaking stuff :)
[23:39] <kklimonda> Sarvatt: if you don't break anything then you make BUGabundo sad ;)
[23:40] <BUGabundo> :(
[23:43] <DanaG> ooh, the channel is open already.
[23:43] <DanaG> Meerkat.... reminds me of "Hakuna Matata".
[23:47] <BUGabundo> welcome back DanaG
[23:47] <BUGabundo> we missed your ranting :)
[23:48] <arand> Always bothers me when they choose three-syllable nicknames.
[23:49] <DanaG> Anyway, any rants about nvidia 96 will be gone now... that beast's been shipped off to the opposite coast. =þ
[23:55] <BUGabundo> arand: who does?
[23:58] <arand> BUGabundo: who what? chooses nicknames? sabdfl I guess? (I'm talking about Maverick being 3-syllable and generally uncomfortable as a mascot name, as was intrepid...)
[23:59] <BUGabundo> aahh