[03:43] <Damascene> hi,
[03:43] <Damascene> top is showing different memory use than system monitor
[03:43] <Damascene> 900M, 300M respectfully
[03:57] <Damascene> http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ :)
[04:10] <acicula> they have different definitions of what constitutes ram use
[04:25] <Damascene> yeah I found that. thanks
[08:46] <BUGabundo_remote> yes,yes, Sleep is overrated
[09:54] <kermiac> ddecator: you around mate?
[09:54] <ddecator> kermiac: hey mate, just got done listening to the beginning of UDS =), what's up?
[09:55] <kermiac> you mind taking a look at bug 576072 - I'm about to re-assign to firefox. Just wondering if you've seen any dupes
[09:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 576072 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "ubuntuone hidden files are stored as non-hidden after downloading (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576072
[09:56] <ddecator> kermiac: sure, just one sec, trying to find another firefox bug
[09:56] <kermiac> ok, np thanks mate
[10:01] <ddecator> btw, i'm surprised you haven't just gone ahead and adopted ubuntuone =p
[10:02] <kermiac> well... a few of us have unofficially adopted it, lol
[10:02] <ddecator> sounds like it. yah, i think i saw a firefox report for this. once sec
[10:03] <kermiac> awesome, then I can just re-assign & dupe it
[10:03] <ddecator> if i can find the report, haha
[10:03] <ddecator> can't remember if i subscribed or not..
[13:00] <kermiac> is there a known bug for firefox & chromium not saving hidden files correctly? e.g. when using firefox or chromium to download a file named ".bashrc" it is saved as "bashrc". When using Opera to download the same ".bashrc" it is saved correctly as ".basrc". I have tried this from multiple file hosts & the result is always the same
[13:01] <kermiac> typo above - should read:
[13:01] <kermiac> is there a known bug for firefox & chromium not saving hidden files correctly? e.g. when using firefox or chromium to download a file named ".bashrc" it is saved as "bashrc". When using Opera to download the same ".bashrc" it is saved correctly as ".bashrc". I have tried this from multiple file hosts & the result is always the same
[13:06] <Kangarooo> kermiac: if that is happening then that's really bad couse its wasting time to rename as they were named- hidden
[13:07] <kermiac> Kangarooo: it seems to be happening here. I've tried 3 diff file hosts + the u1 web interface & 4 diff pc's running karmic & lucid
[13:07]  * yofel tries...
[13:08] <kermiac> http://www.mediafire.com/?njnywyh5jox
[13:08] <kermiac> http://www.filedropper.com/bashrc_1
[13:08] <kermiac> http://rapidshare.com/files/385623472/.bashrc.html
[13:09] <kermiac> sorry for multiple paste! - they're 3 identical .bashrc files
[13:10] <kermiac> bit of history - this started as a u1 bug & I'm trying to re-assign it as it does not appear to be specific to the u1 web interface. I *was* going to simply re-assign to firefox, but chromium does the same thing. Funny thing is that Opera works fine
[13:11] <yofel> hm, indeed, if you open a dot file and use save page as... it's properly saved as .file, but if you use the download file dialog the . is missing
[13:12] <kermiac> yup... I was thinking about re-assigning the bug to firefox & marking as "also affects" chromium
[13:12] <kermiac> would you do it differently?
[13:13] <nigelbabu> it might we webkit then?
[13:13] <nigelbabu> doesn't firefox and chrome base on webkit? /me is not sure
[13:15] <yofel> I don't think firefox is webkit based, and the download dialog acually says '.bashrc', but the filename on disk is bashrc
[13:15] <nigelbabu> mm
[13:16] <kermiac> hi nigelbabu I'm not sure, this is one of those "weird" bugs & I don't honestly know what is at fault
[13:17] <nigelbabu> put it on the main cluprit, they'll identify the right one
[13:17] <yofel> maybe ask in #ubuntu-mozillateam
[13:20] <kermiac> thanks yofel, I'll ask in there & hopefully get a response. otherwise I'll just assign to firefox tomorrow
[13:27] <Kangarooo> yofel: I tryd clicking method and also left click save as method and both saved without .so not hidden but with save as it regocnized this is being wanted to save corectly and asked do I want to overwrite if I say yes then its saved without . and the real file is deleted. but if I renamame file saving with . it still save without .
[13:28] <yofel> hm
[13:29] <Kangarooo> but actually I think this maybe a security issue and that's why its not allowed to save with . but in that case its not working corectly couse replacing with saving made file without . and real file was deleted
[13:35] <Kangarooo> hmm I have someking bug. videos reocrded with gtc-reocrdmydesktop in YT are fuzzy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA8b8DStsTE third time changed some settings and nothing changed
[13:37] <Kangarooo> but before upgrade I was able to put them on YT
[14:22] <simar> what to remove in synaptic package manager for removing old ubuntu kernel images???
[14:25] <Kangarooo> simar first check witch kernel you have latest with uname -a
[14:26] <Kangarooo> or uname -are both shows kernel
[14:27] <Kangarooo> simar: then in synaptic search linux-image- and remove all but the version witch was in uname -r
[14:29] <Kangarooo> um better search linux-image-2
[14:30] <Kangarooo> simar: on upgrade all old kernels are removed btw fyi :)
[14:38] <thekorn> pedro_, bdmurray, hi, I know you are very busy this week, but my bugcontrol membership is about to expire, can one of you please renew it?
[14:39] <pedro_> thekorn, yep, give me a sec
[14:39] <thekorn> thank you
[14:40] <pedro_> thekorn, renewed, thanks!
[15:37] <jbicha> hi, I submitted a bug control team application 4 days ago but it needs to be approved to show up on the mailing list
[15:40] <jbicha> is bdmurray the only one who can do this?
[15:54] <grapz> Hi. I'm trying to update a bug I have by running 'ubuntu-bug -u 576601', and each time, ubuntu-bug crashes with the following info: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/UcMR1U9f
[16:40] <bdmurray> jbicha: it's been un-moderated
[16:40] <jbicha> bdmurray: thank you very much
[17:14] <bibinou> hi
[17:16] <bibinou> if a bug is already fixed upstream, but the fixed package version isn't in ubuntu yet, should I change the bug status of the ubuntu package to confirmed ? triaged ?
[17:17] <micahg> bibinou: depends on the team and the package
[17:18] <bibinou> ok, thank you
[17:20] <MrKanister> bibinou: Usually "triaged" is appropriate, but for a lot of GNOME packages, "fix committed" is used in that case (although that is theoretically wrong, since "fix committed" is for something else)
[17:21] <MrKanister> But since the bugwatches are working again, "fix committed" seems to be out of question
[17:22] <bibinou> yes, but bugwatches doesn't work for google code yet.
[17:22] <bibinou> so confirmed it is.
[17:22] <bibinou> I can't set triaged
[17:22] <nigelbabu> bug number?
[17:23] <phillipsjk> This moring I came to the conclusion that the latest realse was a buggy peice of crap; then came accross this patch commited ~20 hours ago for a bug I was following (546992) http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47986334/do_not_check_hal_on_bus.patch  -- I am wondering coudl that fix something like 567899 as well (installer quits with error on live Cd) as well? how would I check? Are there standard tools for building a new CD image?
[17:23] <MrKanister> bibinou: You can only set bugs to "triaged" if you are in the ubuntu-bugcontrol team (in case you didn't know)
[17:24] <bibinou> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quodlibet/+bug/575436
[17:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 575436 in quodlibet (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Quod Libet's volume level slider does not work (affects: 3) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:25] <nigelbabu> bibinou: done
[17:26] <bibinou> thank you :)
[17:31] <phillipsjk> Found the CD twaeking instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[17:34] <phillipsjk> Actually, this more closely describe what I would want to do: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=936582 "HOWTO: Create a custom LiveCD of your system (distributable) Ubuntu 8.04 LTS" (but looks slightly out of date (other page says: "squashfs-tools will need to be updated to version 4.0."))
[17:51] <JabLuszko> Hey! I got *strange* problem and I have no idea it is worth reporting or not. The 10.04 is rebooting it self (more like cutting power) without any trace in logs. It happends only if I pick up/move the laptop (like moving from desk to bed). It is happening at amd64/XFS and i386/ext4. It is *not* happening and Windows XP/Windows 7. If I remeber correctly it was not happening at the 9.10 CD clean install.
[17:52] <JabLuszko> If it is worth reporting what do I need to include? syslog, lspci, what more? :-) / I am going to find the 9.10 CD and reinstall the system to check it out, but first I wish to provide all things are nessecary from 10.04 :-)
[17:53] <JabLuszko> There is nothing in the system logs, looks like 'emergency restart'. It goes straight to BIOS :-)
[17:59] <JabLuszko> s/and Windows/on Windows/
[18:01] <phillipsjk> JabLuszko: I think you are supposed to use #ubuntu untill you can reproduce the bug. If it does not happen in Windows; it may be related to the accelarometer designed to shut-down the hard-drisk during free-fall http://www.dimensionengineering.com/accelerometers.htm
[18:04] <JabLuszko> phillipsjk: Really on #ubuntu? That would be mess, but if you suggest so.
[18:04] <JabLuszko> phillipsjk: I can reproduce this bug, every time when I pick up laptop :D
[18:06] <phillipsjk> JabLuszko: to be honest, I wouldn't has noticed your question if you asked there; but there are more people there.
[18:08] <phillipsjk> JabLuszko: does it happen when you pick up the laptop or put it down?
[18:09] <phillipsjk> I am assuming Windows I currently installed so that you can confirm it still does not happen under Windows.
[18:09] <JabLuszko> phillipsjk: pick up,  can't test it with 'put it down' cuz it it already rebooted :D
[18:09] <JabLuszko> Yeah, Dualboot, GRUB
[18:10] <JabLuszko> Ok, gonna join all these msg into one and asking at #ubuntu
[18:10] <phillipsjk> Probably not an accelerometer problem then. sounds like a loose wire, but you claim it does not happen under Windows.
[18:11] <JabLuszko> That is the most funny thing :-) If I would happend on both system I will guess that there is something wrong inside  :-)
[18:11] <JabLuszko> But I can't blame it currenty to 'mechanical issue'.
[18:12] <JabLuszko> and I am pretty sure that while I was using 9.10 i've tried Arch... and it was happing on Arch too
[18:12] <JabLuszko> But not on 9.10 :-)
[18:14] <phillipsjk> Try asking in #ubuntu . your problem sounds interesting enough that you should get a few bites :)
[18:20] <JabLuszko> phillipsjk: I guess I will don't get any infos there, just too many people :-)
[18:21] <JabLuszko> phillipsjk: should I go to ubuntu forum or bugs and report it to (kernel/power managment?)
[18:23] <phillipsjk> JabLuszko: sometimes it can take a few minutes to get a response. I don't see what reporting it as a power management bug will do without good reason to suspect that is the culprit.
[18:23] <JabLuszko> phillipsjk: I thinks the same.. but I guess it is closest to this?;-)
[18:25] <phillipsjk> it is possible, this could describe the same probelm, or it may not: it is hard to tell with an unanswered post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1038930
[18:27] <yofel> . . . - the folks that attended the UDS session about launchpad upstream bugs might remember the discussion about linux bugs and information adding / duplicate filing. Now see bug 577916 *sigh*
[18:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 577916 in ubuntu "lucid regression: does not resume from hibernation, restarts fresh (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/577916
[19:53] <sfstikkun> Hi.  I'm getting a strange message when I attempt to open new browser pages.  It reads : ASSERT: node must have _DOMElement set
[19:53] <sfstikkun> Stack Trace:
[19:53] <sfstikkun> 0:TV_V_nodeIconChanged([object ResultNodeClassInfo])
[19:54] <sfstikkun> I have no idea what it means and I have no idea where to report it besides here.
[20:11] <yofel> sfstikkun: can you please run 'sudo start apport force_start=1' and try to reproduce your issue? you should get a crash notification
[20:12] <sfstikkun> O
[20:12] <sfstikkun> I'll try.  I'm a complete newbie.
[20:13] <yofel> sfstikkun: what application by the way? What effect has it on what you're doing?
[20:14] <sfstikkun> It has no real affect on what i'm doing.  It shows up whether I'm using Firefox or Epiphany browsers
[20:14] <sfstikkun> or Facebook
[20:15] <yofel> then feel free to report it, we disable crash reporting once a release is out so users don't get interrupted too much
[20:16] <sfstikkun> ok
[21:14] <trinikrono> hey guys, any mentors online?
[21:39] <arand> trinikrono: If it's a general question, fire away, likely a lot of people are off at uds, atm.
[23:21] <grapz> Hi. I have bug 576601, and I've installed kernel 2.6.34-rc7 from the MainLine PPA, but when I try do to ubuntu-bugs -u 576601 to update the bug, it doesn't upload any logs (UnreportableReason: The running kernel is not an Ubuntu kernel). Is there a way I can have ubuntu-bug upload the log files for me when testing a new kernel?
[23:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 576601 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "mcp89 sata not detected (affects: 4) (heat: 34)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576601