[14:01] <ahmedabukilal> hi
[14:02] <erUSUL> ahmedabukilal: hi
[14:02] <ahmedabukilal> i made an irc channel for our loco team
[14:02] <ahmedabukilal> its #ubuntu-iq
[14:03] <ahmedabukilal> but when log in to it now it tell me that openning privat channel failed
[14:04] <ahmedabukilal> Failed to join chat room
[14:05] <m4v> ahmedabukilal: the channel seems to be invite only
[14:05] <ahmedabukilal> but im the one how created it
[14:06] <m4v> you probably need to ask chanserv to invite you
[14:07] <ahmedabukilal> how can i do that
[14:07] <m4v> /msg chanserv help invite
[14:08] <m4v> in any case, is it necessary to have the channel as invite only?
[14:08] <ahmedabukilal> no
[14:10] <m4v> the +i mode is set with mlock, you will need to take a look at "/msg chanserv help set mlock" for remove it
[14:10] <m4v> en the secret flag (+s) would be a good idea to remove as well
[14:11] <m4v> s/en/and/
[14:15] <m4v> the channel is moderated (+m) with mlock as well, where you playing with chanserv? :P
[14:18] <m4v> ahmedabukilal: /msg chanserv set mlock +ntc
[14:18] <m4v> ahmedabukilal: then "/mode #ubuntu-iq -msi" while you're op in you channel
[14:19] <m4v> ah..
[14:19] <m4v> ahmedabukilal: /msg chanserv set #ubuntu-iq mlock +ntc
[14:19] <m4v> forgot the channel name :P
[14:20] <ahmedabukilal> when i do invite command it tell me unknown command
[14:20] <m4v> /msg chanserv invite #ubuntu-iq
[14:21] <ahmedabukilal> it tell me
[14:21] <ahmedabukilal> Failed to open private chat
[14:22] <tsimpson> ahmedabukilal: try joining now
[14:22] <tsimpson> that's why having the IRCC on your access list is good :)
[14:25] <m4v> I don't understand why he's getting that error though..
[14:27] <ahmedabukilal> how can i identfy my self to the server
[14:27] <m4v> you're identified right now
[14:28] <ahmedabukilal> then when i write in ubuntu-iq room
[14:28] <ahmedabukilal> it tell me this
[14:29] <ahmedabukilal> Error sending message 'hi': permission denied
[14:29] <m4v> the channel is moderated, you can write until you're opped
[14:29] <m4v> do this
[14:29] <m4v> /msg chanserv set #ubuntu-iq mlock +ntc
[14:30] <m4v> /msg chanserv op #ubuntu-iq
[14:30] <m4v> /mode #ubuntu-iq -msi
[14:31] <m4v> then you should be able to talk and join normally
[14:31] <ahmedabukilal> it tell me
[14:31] <ahmedabukilal> Failed to open private chat
[14:31] <m4v> I don't know what is causing that :(
[22:47] <Zic> as LoCo ubuntu-fr IRC operators, can you give +F to Ubuntu-fr-IRC on #ubuntu-fr, #ubuntu-fr-admins and #ubuntu-fr-party ?
[22:49] <Zic> and an other not approuved channel this time : #ubuntu-fr-dijon & #ubuntu-fr-moderation
[22:51] <Zic> others* channels* approved* :)
[22:52] <nhandler> Zic: Have you asked the current founder in those channels?
[22:52] <nhandler> _r1_ is founder in #ubuntu-fr and olive is founder in -party
[22:53] <tsimpson> Ubuntu-fr-IRC is also already on the -fr list
[22:53] <nhandler> tsimpson: Yeah, they want +F for it
[22:53] <tsimpson> oh, right
[22:53] <Zic> for #ubuntu-fr-party, I already explain our problem here few days ago (if you want I can copy my request one more time)
[22:54] <Zic> for #ubuntu-fr, _r1_ has nothing to do with the LoCo ubuntu-fr
[22:54] <Zic> he is just the former #ubuntu-fr founder
[22:54] <nhandler> Zic: Have you talked to him about setting Ubuntu-fr-IRC as the founder?
[22:54] <tsimpson> have you asked them to transfer ownership?
[22:54]  * tsimpson must be a little slow today
[22:56] <Zic> yes, many time, he doesn't want, he wants to have a "hand" just in case in the channel but he never used this right and no problems issued on #ubuntu-fr* channel with our actual team since many years
[22:56] <Zic> and now we tried to give +F to Ubuntu-fr-IRC virtual account on #ubuntu-fr* channels
[22:57] <Zic> this account is managed by administrators of the operator teams of #ubuntu-fr* channels
[22:57] <nhandler> Zic: What about olive? Have you tried contacting Olive?
[22:57] <Zic> nhandler: yes, and he claims that if we want access on -party, he must have an access on #ubuntu-fr* channels too
[22:58] <nhandler> Zic: Does _r1_ speak English?
[22:58] <Zic> but olive is not a part of our team
[22:58] <Zic> (and he is one of the problem in #ubuntu-fr-party discussions)
[22:58] <Zic> nhandler: I think so
[22:59] <nhandler> Zic: Alright. I sent r1 a message, but he is probably away right now. I'm going to try talking to him, and we will go from there
[23:01] <Zic> ok, we have no real matters with _r1_ (but we have few as you understood with olive)
[23:02] <nhandler> Zic: Well, olive said that if you get +F in -fr, you can have it in -party, so we'll take this one step at a time
[23:02] <Zic> ok
[23:03] <nhandler> Zic: Did you have any luck contacting the founders of the other channels on your list?
[23:03] <Zic> about #ubuntu-fr-dijon and its operators channel (#ubuntu-fr-moderation) yes
[23:04] <Zic> we recommend to them that they can use ##ubuntu-fr-dijon and ##ubuntu-fr-moderation
[23:04] <Zic> but they did not respect our recommandations
[23:04] <nhandler> Zic: Why? Are they not Ubuntu-fr team channels?
[23:05] <Zic> nhandler: Ubuntu-fr is managed by the Ubuntu-fr association in France, but a local team of the "Dijon french town" wants to create their own channel, #ubuntu-fr-dijon
[23:05] <Zic> Ubuntu-fr association is also the official approved LoCo Ubuntu in France
[23:06] <nhandler> Alright. So it is a completely separate group of people who created -dijon and -moderation
[23:06] <Zic> yes
[23:15] <Zic> just to describe more precisely the situation with _r1_ : he approved our decision and our team roles and does not have a straight opposition to five +F to Ubuntu-fr-IRC
[23:15] <nhandler> Zic: So why didn't he give you +F ?
[23:16] <Zic> he always said that "we are the real admins, he is just the..." arh, I seek the right word in English :>
[23:17] <Zic> the guardian ? the keeper ?
[23:17] <Zic> something like that :)
[23:17] <Zic> nhandler: we have not contact with him since many weeks :s
[23:18] <Zic> he is very busy at this time and, in the past, he said that he will think about it in the future (to give the +F)
[23:18] <nhandler> Alright. I'll see what he has to say when he replies to my message. As for the -dijon and -moderation channels, we are resolving that issue now
[23:22] <Zic> so, for _r1_ we just let him because we want to make it peaceful, but it makes time now... So we requested here to make stuff progressing.
[23:23] <tsimpson> more than one person/account can have +F, iirc
[23:24] <tsimpson> so it may be an idea to share it, at least for now
[23:26] <nhandler> tsimpson: That is correct. I'll remind _r1_ of that when I talk to him
[23:31] <nhandler> Zic: -moderation and -dijon have been renamed
[23:32] <Zic> ok, thanks!
[23:33] <McPeter> thanks