| paissad | is this line ok ? | 02:12 |
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| paissad | Depends: sun-java6-jre | openjdk-6-jre | 02:13 |
| paissad | if i want to search 1st for sun-java6-jre & then openjdk | 02:14 |
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| amikrop | Where can I find Ambiance's folder/places icons? | 05:11 |
| suji | hi | 10:32 |
| suji | i updated the iok package and upload in launchpad , now it is available in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iok under other version of iok in untrusted archive | 10:48 |
| suji | how to make it trusted. | 10:48 |
| suji | dholbach: hi | 10:55 |
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| wrapster | i have a set of pre-compiled binaries around which i built a pkg and used the pkg to just copy the files to certain dirs.. But strangely it does not work. | 13:19 |
| wrapster | dealing with internationalization libs here. | 13:19 |
| wrapster | however if i dont create a pkg and just copy the binaries to respective locaations... and then change the locale and reboot.. | 13:19 |
| joaopinto | wrapster, define "does not work" ? Are the .deb contents listed as you expect ? | 13:21 |
| wrapster | joaopinto: yes they are. | 13:21 |
| joaopinto | and they don't extract to the proper locations ? | 13:21 |
| wrapster | during bootstrapping the loader complains that "unable to set locale" | 13:21 |
| wrapster | joaopinto: they do... | 13:21 |
| joaopinto | ah, so your question is not about packaging per si :) | 13:22 |
| wrapster | joaopinto: no it is.. and here is the reason. | 13:23 |
| wrapster | if i try to emulate what ever the pkg does manually.... as in it copies a set of binaries to a few dirs... | 13:23 |
| wrapster | if i manuallly do that. and then reboot the machine. it all works fine. | 13:23 |
| wrapster | i've tested this a million times already. | 13:23 |
| joaopinto | if copying the files manually does not provide the same behavior as installing from the package you must be missing something trivial, like a typo | 13:23 |
| joaopinto | assuming you are copyting the same binaries | 13:24 |
| wrapster | hmm.. | 13:24 |
| wrapster | but after the pkg is built when i look into the staging dir.. i find everything right where i want it. | 13:24 |
| joaopinto | wrapster, there is nothing magic about dpkg, anyway to be sure you compare the md5sums of the files, the dpkg installed vs the manual installed ones | 13:25 |
| joaopinto | if both files are on the same locations and have the same md5sums, you need to search for the problem somewhere else, it's not related to those files copy :) | 13:26 |
| wrapster | hmm... | 13:27 |
| wrapster | ok | 13:27 |
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| BlackZ | if a package has no version and I've taken it from a bzr, which version should I give to it? is packagename-bzrX ok? or packagename-0.0-bzrX (or something), thanks | 14:16 |
| pabelanger | Is there any backlog on people waiting for a mentor? I'd like to apply today and just getting a feel if there are any delays. | 14:28 |
| Zhenech | BlackZ, pck-0.0+bzr… | 15:00 |
| Zhenech | BlackZ, or, if bzr uses non incremental ids (like git's hashes): 0.0+20100510+bzrID | 15:01 |
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| ScottK | bzr has monotonically increasing revision numbers. | 15:50 |
| Breaking_Pitt | hello POX, do you know where I can fix this problem file-in-unusual-dir usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/repositoryhandler/backends/watchers.pyo | 15:59 |
| POX | .pyo (and .pyc) files should not end in .deb package, remove them (dh_pysupport and dh_pycentral does that for you) | 16:01 |
| Breaking_Pitt | ok | 16:01 |
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| ari-tczew | bdrung: ping | 16:16 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: pong | 16:17 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: did you saw email from me? | 16:17 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: yes. the bug are fixed by me, because i uploaded the packages (with the syncpackage tool in ubuntu-dev-tools) instead of subscribing ubuntu-archive | 16:18 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: so therefore always be that since now? | 16:20 |
| ari-tczew | The first time I met with this method | 16:20 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: yes (unless someone complains about the procedure) | 16:20 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: for universe as well? | 16:21 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: yesterday i tweaked the syncpackage script and updated my ack-sync script. you are the first tester of it. | 16:21 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: yes | 16:21 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: is it possible to upload a sync signing to requester? | 16:22 |
| ari-tczew | like in merge uploading | 16:22 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: i dunno if i can get the correct email address of the requester from LP. | 16:23 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: gimme a script that pulls the correct signer from a LP bug and i will integrate it into my script. | 16:23 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: I think that this is possible, because when archive admin is doing a sync, then he sings package to sync requester | 16:23 |
| bdrung | k | 16:24 |
| ari-tczew | I don't have a script, but I think you should ask archive-admins like james_w | 16:24 |
| bdrung | james_w: can you give me a pointer to the archive-admin sync script? | 16:25 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: you are a main sponsor as well, but what about only universe sponsors? can they use syncpackage tool as well? | 16:25 |
| bdrung | yes | 16:25 |
| Laney | you're suggesting a policy change | 16:25 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: are you an author of this script? | 16:25 |
| Laney | this should have wider discussion imo | 16:26 |
| bdrung | Laney: it was discussed on a ML | 16:26 |
| Laney | not if we should change the syncing process completely | 16:26 |
| Laney | if you mean the one I'm thinking of, that was about whether the script is alright to use *ever* | 16:26 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: yes | 16:28 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: I think that this is nice tool, because reduces a time between sponsor ACK and upload by archive-admins, but I think that this is unfair for sync requesters (like me today) | 16:29 |
| ari-tczew | good tool for Quick Response strategy ;-) | 16:29 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: you can specify an uploader with -u to the syncpackage tool | 16:30 |
| bdrung | i just need to pull the correct uploader from LP | 16:30 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: can I specify? I'm not a sponsor ;-) | 16:31 |
| ari-tczew | I think that archive-admins specifies an uploader by LP nickname | 16:31 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: the person that calls this script. | 16:32 |
| bdrung | btw, the ML thread is called "slowness of syncing process" | 16:33 |
| ari-tczew | what is ML? | 16:34 |
| bdrung | mailing list | 16:34 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: I'm applying for the suspension of the use of this script until you solve the question with uploader in syncpackage. | 16:37 |
| Laney | I know the one. If you want to remove the AAs from the process (apart from autosyncing), it should require an explicit discussion though. | 16:37 |
| bdrung | ok, then let's start a discussion | 16:38 |
| ari-tczew | now? here? | 16:39 |
| bdrung | the ubuntu-devel ML should be the right place | 16:44 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: can I join the discuss ML? | 16:51 |
| bdrung | yes | 16:52 |
| pabelanger | I just applied for junior mentoring via ubuntu-motu-mentors@lists.ubuntu.com. I'd appreciate any helping getting it approved. | 16:52 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: everybody can send mails to ubuntu-devel@ and subscribe to it | 16:53 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: I never used a ML so please of indulgence | 16:55 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel | 16:56 |
| bdrung | there you can subscribe to it | 16:56 |
| bdrung | writing a mail to a mailing list is like writing a normal mail and just sending it to the ML (in this case ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com) | 16:57 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: do you have another sync request for me? | 17:00 |
| bdrung | i have tweaked my ack-sync script | 17:00 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: give me some minutes | 17:01 |
| DktrKranz | bdrung, ari-tczew: I can patch syncpackage in ubuntu-dev-tools trunk in order to correct Changed-By field, it shouldn't be too hard | 17:04 |
| DktrKranz | it could also close bug, with an appropriate comment | 17:04 |
| ari-tczew | DktrKranz, would be great, but wait for bdrung tweak. I'm going to fill a new sync request and bdrung will test... | 17:20 |
| DktrKranz | okay | 17:20 |
| DktrKranz | feel free to commit the tweak there :) | 17:20 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: I'm going to add these 3 syncs to my MOTU Application under your sponsoring as OK | 17:21 |
| bdrung | DktrKranz: syncpackage has the -u flag | 17:21 |
| bdrung | i have tweaked my ack-sync script and needs to test it. | 17:22 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: the sync request were done by you and therefore they were your "job" | 17:22 |
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| ari-tczew | bdrung: bug 578364 | 17:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 578364 in pwrkap "Sync pwrkap 7.30-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/578364 | 17:48 |
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| ari-tczew | bdrung: any news? | 18:48 |
| bilalakhtar | People, is contributing 10 packages to debian enough to make a person an Ubuntu member? | 19:02 |
| bilalakhtar | sorry, people, have to leave now | 19:06 |
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| bdrung | ari-tczew: your name + mail is "Artur Rona <ari-tczew@tlen.pl>"? | 19:58 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: exactly | 20:24 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: great. then it working. i am implementing another improvement and then i will test it with your bug report. | 20:25 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: cool, could you ship your improved script on bzr branch to merge with current version? | 20:26 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: i will push it into the master branch | 20:27 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: how you did improve in script? sign by LP username? | 20:27 |
| bdrung | my ack-sync script get this line: uploader = bug.owner.display_name + " <" + bug.owner.preferred_email_address.email + ">" | 20:28 |
| bdrung | then uploader will be passed to syncpackage | 20:28 |
| bdrung | now i am working on a --bug switch to add the sync request bug number to the list of fixed bugs | 20:29 |
| bdrung | then i don't need to close the lp bug "manually" with my ack-sync script | 20:29 |
| geser | bdrung: does this construction of the uploader also work for LP users with hidden email addresses? | 20:35 |
| bdrung | geser: i didn't test it. | 20:36 |
| bdrung | geser: do you know someone with a hidden email address who filed a bug? | 20:37 |
| geser | no, as I don't regularly look if somebody has a public email when working on bugs | 20:43 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: is Martin Pitt initial author of this script? | 20:44 |
| ScottK | If it's the syncpackage script, yes. | 20:45 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: yes (syncpackage) and i have modified it heavily | 20:45 |
| ScottK | bdrung: But it was working before? | 20:45 |
| geser | bdrung: I'm looking at the syncpackage source and wondering why you use apt_pkg.check_dep() instead of simply using >= on the Version objects? as far as I know they support comparison | 20:46 |
| bdrung | geser: feel free to improve it (after i pushed my changes) | 20:47 |
| bdrung | ScottK: yes (i made it more flexible) | 20:48 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: sync sponsored. let's see if everything worked like it should | 20:48 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: \o/ it works | 20:51 |
| bdrung | bug #578364 | 20:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 578364 in pwrkap "Sync pwrkap 7.30-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/578364 | 20:51 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: yea I saw new package in my +related-software | 20:51 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: do you will expand script for include Launchpad Janitor/Launchpad Bug tracker to closing automagically bug? | 20:52 |
| ari-tczew | oh, I saw, closed automagically! nice! | 20:53 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung you are amazing ;-D | 20:54 |
| bdrung | that was the thing i have been working on for the last half hour | 20:54 |
| ari-tczew | we have a breakthrough! this is very important step to make more easier repositories management. I'm excited ;-D | 20:56 |
| bdrung | geser: pushed my changes | 20:56 |
| bdrung | \o/ | 20:57 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: you and pitti should be awarded | 20:57 |
| bdrung | one thing could be improved: automatic fakesync detection ;) | 20:58 |
| ari-tczew | good point, wiki page about fakesync is necessary as well for documentation | 20:59 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: could I write in QR strategy about script syncpackage? | 20:59 |
| bdrung | QR strategy? | 20:59 |
| ari-tczew | quick response (my wiki) | 21:00 |
| bdrung | yes | 21:00 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung and other: what do you think about what do you think about leading statistics - who and how many has packages sponsored? | 21:02 |
| ari-tczew | by syncpackage script we can get information who did wchich packages | 21:03 |
| bdrung | leading statistics? | 21:03 |
| ari-tczew | hmm, which word is correct... record statistics? | 21:04 |
| geser | there were such statistics (who did how many uploads) in the past but they got discontinued (seems like the persons running those lost interest) | 21:04 |
| bdrung | so you want to add there the count of sponsored packages (after reviving the statistics)? i think that this is a good idea. we need to make sponsoring more prominent and this is a good way to do it. | 21:06 |
| ari-tczew | geser: I think that is easier by script. select information from data base "Sponsored by:" | 21:06 |
| bdrung | BTW, if someone is interested in the ack-sync script: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/+junk/ack-sync/changes | 21:07 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: as you said :) | 21:07 |
| bdrung | no sync to sponsor left ;) all the easy to sponsor things done | 21:08 |
| geser | ari-tczew: for that you would need to get the script into LP itself (I don't believe one get this data from LP API efficiently if at all) | 21:08 |
| geser | ari-tczew: the easiest way to get such statistics done currently is to use the maverick-changes mails and parse them | 21:08 |
| kklimonda | can't we get this data from -changes mailing lists? | 21:09 |
| kklimonda | right | 21:09 |
| ari-tczew | geser: maybe your propose is better, I'm not a developer :) | 21:10 |
| ari-tczew | but I guess that we can start counting this development cycle who did sponsors | 21:10 |
| ari-tczew | * who and how many sponsors has finished | 21:11 |
| ari-tczew | bdrung: are you on UDS right now? | 21:15 |
| bdrung | ari-tczew: nope. i am sitting at home | 21:20 |
| ajmitch | morning | 21:21 |
| ari-tczew | hello | 21:22 |
| geser | ajmitch: from your "morning" I conclude that you aren't at UDS either? | 21:22 |
| ajmitch | geser: correct, I haven't been to UDS for awhile now | 21:24 |
| corecode_ | hey | 21:46 |
| corecode_ | RuntimeError: This installation of RMagick was configured with ImageMagick 6.5.5 but ImageMagick 6.5.7-8 is in use. | 21:46 |
| corecode_ | is that my fault or some packaging problem? | 21:46 |
| geser | probably it didn't got rebuild when the newer imagemagick got uploaded (but this is just a guess) | 21:48 |
| BlackZ | could a copyright file contain two authors of the packaging work? | 21:50 |
| geser | sure, why not? | 21:50 |
| BlackZ | hmm geser some doubts on it but now it's clear - another question: if I use dh_install should I specify the path in debian/dirs ? | 21:52 |
| corecode_ | geser: what has to happen to rebuild it? | 21:53 |
| geser | corecode_: if it's really the case that a rebuild fixes it then a SRU (stable release update) should be proposed | 21:56 |
| geser | BlackZ: IIRC dh_install creates the missing dirs as necessary, debian/dirs is only helpful if you need to call cp/mv in debian/rules and want the needed dirs created by dh_installdirs | 21:57 |
| lfaraone | geser: by the way, I may be able to make the meeting tomorrow, but I have to leave at 15:50. | 21:58 |
| geser | lfaraone: lets hope there is no time conflict with UDS and we get quorum | 21:59 |
| corecode_ | geser: i quite think so | 22:01 |
| BlackZ | geser: and when there's a package on bzr is the watch file necessary? | 22:05 |
| geser | BlackZ: no, as there is no release listing to monitor for a new release | 22:07 |
| lfaraone | BlackZ: do they have separate upstream release tarballs? if so, yes, that's preferred over bzr. | 22:07 |
| BlackZ | lfaraone: nope, they don't | 22:08 |
| leleobhz | guys, im in a problem involving dbus package and chroot configuration (for instalation) | 22:45 |
| leleobhz | if i install the dbus package inside a chroot, it cant find the session socket (obviously because dbus is running outside chroot) and the package config broke | 22:46 |
| joaopinto | leleobhz, dbus installes fine on my lucid chroot, do you have /dev and friends bind mounted ? | 22:50 |
| leleobhz | joaopinto: well, bind mount of /dev /proc and /sys | 22:50 |
| leleobhz | i partially solved the problem running dbus-launcher --system --fork | 22:51 |
| leleobhz | but | 22:51 |
| leleobhz | why start dbus via init.d create the socket OUTSIDE the chroot even if inside chroot | 22:51 |
| leleobhz | i cant understand | 22:51 |
| carstenh | leleobhz: writing #!/bin/sh newline exit 101 to /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d in the chroot should solve this | 22:52 |
| joaopinto | hum, I am using schroot -p from X, I am not sure if DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is helping on my case | 22:52 |
| carstenh | and running chmod a+x /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d | 22:52 |
| leleobhz | carstenh: my problem is im dist-upgrading a system that crashed when upgrading (libc problems) | 22:53 |
| leleobhz | so i need to run distupgrade from inside a chroot | 22:53 |
| joaopinto | hum, it installs fine here, with a clean environment, on a lucid schroot | 22:54 |
| carstenh | how does upgrading inside a chroot help if the userland outside the chroot is broken? | 22:55 |
| carstenh | dbus puts something in /var/run/dbus/ | 22:57 |
| joaopinto | carstenh, the userland is not broken, I assume he is running chroot from a livecd | 23:04 |
| carstenh | that way around it makes sense :) | 23:07 |
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